[05:52] <MichaelTiebesl> hi there. im planning to install the daily build from 16.04
[05:53] <MichaelTiebesl> do i have to reinstall it once the official 16.04 will come out?
[05:53] <MichaelTiebesl> or can i continue with the daily build to have the same 16.04?
[06:00] <SwedeMike> MichaelTiebesl: generally you can continue and just upgrade packages, unless something breaks of course.
[06:01] <MichaelTiebesl> SwedeMike: thanks. im planning to install it this week so i thought maybe i wait a few weeks more for the final iso, but if it will be the same then thats okay then for me
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: see the schedule in topic
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: you can also test 16.04 daily image right now if you like, if you just keep in mind things can still break
[09:20] <syntroPi> Yeah i know im just really curious about it :-)
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: then install right now
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> adviser: did you have right graphics driver?
[09:24] <syntroPi> Yup gonna have to do some preparations first though, will the daily image finally result in same system as release ?
[09:25] <adviser> lotuspsychje: Not sure
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: you mean upgrade to final?
[09:25] <adviser> I am new into this open source OS
[09:25] <syntroPi> yes
[09:25] <adviser> not familiar in programe, used to install windows OS.
[09:25] <k1l> !final
[09:25] <ubottu> If you install a development version of Ubuntu Xenial and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 16.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal.
[09:26] <syntroPi> Ah great thanks
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> adviser: can you pastebin us sudo lshw -C video please?
[09:26] <adviser> how to ?
[09:26] <adviser> Im new into working on the tools
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> adviser: from a terminal
[09:27] <adviser> ok i follow ur instruction stepby step
[09:27] <adviser> user@admin:~$
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> !paste | adviser
[09:28] <ubottu> adviser: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[09:28] <adviser> huh?
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> adviser: you can paste the output to the channel here, se we can see what you do
[09:29] <adviser> What should i type ?
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> adviser: scroll up mate
[09:30] <adviser> where?
[09:30] <adviser> Im now at Mate Terminal.
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> adviser: <lotuspsychje> adviser: can you pastebin us sudo lshw -C video please?
[09:32] <adviser> I am lost
[09:32] <adviser> now sure what pastebin
[09:32] <adviser> oh dear.. only familiar in windows
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> adviser: sudo lshw -C video
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> adviser: when you just switched from windows, i would recommend a more stable LTS flavor like ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> adviser: now you chosen an alpha version
[09:34] <adviser>     oh i see
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | adviser download the iso from here
[09:35] <ubottu> adviser download the iso from here: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> adviser: 16.04 will be final in april and youl be able to upgrade from 14.04
[09:36] <adviser> I was told this version in my system is latest beta .. so trial.
[09:36] <adviser> Understand.
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> adviser: for your case i would start with regular desktop 14.04.4 LTS
[09:37] <adviser> So, you suggest me to run the 14.04.4 LTS better? Is that the MATE version ?
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> adviser: i didnt say better, we have all kinds of flavors
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> adviser: but for starter its advisable, when you like it, you can still choose other flavors later
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> !flavors
[09:37] <ubottu> !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.
[09:39] <adviser> I did tried the Ubuntu 15.10 OS 32bits on another laptop, similarly white screen before it fully launched,
[09:39] <adviser> so just wonder.
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | adviser you could try booting with this
[09:39] <ubottu> adviser you could try booting with this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[09:44] <adviser> Thanks lotuspsychje and ubottu: I need to figure out
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> adviser: did you install ubuntu with cable + updates enabled during setup?
[09:44] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[09:45] <adviser> yes.. i run in wifi
[09:45] <adviser> and also run software updates
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> adviser: ok, maybe try this 14.04.4 LTS and see if you still got white screen, if it does make a hug
[09:45] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje, how are you?
[09:45] <adviser> Haha thanks good for newbies like me.
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> adviser: now you tested a non-lts version and an alpha version
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> adviser: so i would avise also test LTS
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: fine tnx mate and you? slow coffee :p?
[09:46] <lordievader> About to make one.
[09:47] <adviser> Ok, will reburn .iso to my usb
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> adviser: good luck, and come back to us if you have issues ok
[09:47] <adviser> then reinstall.. hope to find good OS.
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> adviser: ubuntu is a good choice dont worry
[09:48] <adviser> Sure, thanks great to all help
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> adviser: we will figure it out
[09:48] <adviser> I just started this open source.. so used to windows XP and 7.
[09:57] <timp> is BTRFS stable enough to be recommended on a laptop used for development (with a lot of chroots)?
[09:59] <k1l> if you need to ask dont use +1 and btrfs :)
[10:01] <timp> k1l: heh, you have a point there :)
[10:02] <timp> I will use xenial anyway. I will need it and otherwise I'll anyway upgrade to xenial to get the latest LTS
[10:02] <timp> I'm just looking for a bit of information about how mature and stable btrfs is
[10:02] <timp> on an ssd
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs
[10:04] <ubottu> Btrfs is a new filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is currently marked as experimental, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs
[10:05] <Ben64> i don't know why people like it
[10:07] <timp> Ben64: because in a chroot, I will have a lot of copies of files that will not change, and btrfs will instead of copying the files, link them until one of them is edited
[10:08] <timp> Ben64: that should save disk space, and potentially make creating chroots with the whole filesystem copied inside faster
[10:08] <timp> but if my chroots will have different distributions/releases inside them I guess it won't matter too much
[10:13] <timp> !ext4
[10:14] <timp> the bot needs to know me first?
[10:14] <timp> ah, it doesn't know ext4
[13:06] <itsmeagain> http://i.piccy.info/i9/e0e1d81613ba467353e9aacfc6cd2f4d/1456909889/169721/1009782/nedrmal.jpg 1Nuj3pwSaXn4GE2WoVEAiDKTaPozo4mpVX Have a nice day
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> itsmeagain: no spam here
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:00] <zzarr> hello! this is just a little question, will the error messages that pops up from time to time be removed? (they are annoying and sometime don't show what's causing the error)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> zzarr,what are you doing when the erors occur?
[14:02] <zzarr> BluesKaj, I'm talking in general, but it always happens on a fresh installation
[14:03] <BluesKaj> zzarr, make sure you update and upgrade, then dist-upgrade to bring in the latest packages and improvements
[14:06] <zzarr> BluesKaj, yea, I do, but I think it's complaining about things that are not that important (I have never noticed any problem)
[14:07] <zzarr> I would have been fine with a "send error reports to Canonical" checkbox during installation and in the settings menu
[14:08] <BluesKaj> zzarr, are any apps crashing ?
[14:08] <zzarr> BluesKaj, since they don't say, I don't know
[14:09] <zzarr> BluesKaj, they just say the system have encountered a problem
[14:09] <BluesKaj> you should saee a crash notice/icon in the panel
[14:09] <BluesKaj> in the terminal ?
[14:11] <zzarr> BluesKaj, the blue icon
[14:13] <BluesKaj> zzarr, I'm on kde , so the crash icon is different
[14:13] <zzarr> BluesKaj, okey
[14:18] <zzarr> I'm installing Ubuntu in a vm now to show what I mean
[14:20] <zzarr> it should be done soon
[14:27] <zzarr> it's rebooting now
[14:32] <zzarr> now lets see if it pops up a message (probably will not knowing my luck)
[14:34] <zzarr> I guess that it's not luck if something goes wrong
[14:45] <jushur> zzarr: your errors are on a fresh/clean install? or after you added repos?
[14:57] <zzarr> jushur, I use to get them directly
[14:57] <zzarr> since I don't get it right now I begin to think it has something to do with the hw
[14:59] <jushur> zzarr: ive been testing the current desktop and server on quite some machines (40+) and there is not much errors at all actually. all my testing hardware are "new/high" quality machines thou.
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[19:13] <icefox234> hello, I want to install 16.04 beta. will my install become LTS when 16.04 is officially released in april?
[19:14] <SwedeMike> icefox234: yes.
[19:14] <icefox234> okay, so no need to download and install a new image upon release?
[19:15] <k1l> no. just run the updates
[19:15] <icefox234> all right, thanks all I needed to know
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