[00:17] <gebbione> i m getting permission denied when executing an app in a disk with NTFS
[00:18] <gebbione> is there a way to run it?
[00:19] <Trenolaz> run it as sudo?
[00:20] <diddledan> chmod
[00:20] <gebbione> doesnt work
[00:21] <gebbione> tried sudo su -
[00:21] <gebbione> then running it still gives permission errors
[00:21] <gebbione> it is already showing with +x so chmod would make no difference
[00:22] <diddledan> what options are set on the mount?
[00:23] <gebbione> ok that gives something away
[00:23] <gebbione> type fuseblk (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096) [2TBStore]
[00:23] <gebbione> noexec ?
[00:23] <diddledan> bingo
[00:24] <gebbione> i wonder though if i can set it to exec
[00:24] <diddledan> you might be able to `mount -oremount,-noexec /mount/point`
[04:32] <mapito> hi:
[04:32] <mapito> :D
[05:33] <mapito> hi zmoylan-pi
[05:33] <mapito> ;d
[07:43] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:46] <knightwise> hey brobostigon , how are you doing today
[07:47] <brobostigon> hi knightwise, half asleep, didnt sleep. and you?
[07:48] <knightwise> brobostigon: kinda the same thing. Second day on a new project at the client.
[07:49] <knightwise> still a lot of info to take in.
[07:49] <knightwise> but .. i get to bring my own machine so i'm not complainging.
[07:50] <brobostigon> hope sleep better tonight. ah ok, fingers crossed.
[08:02] <knightwise> just installed elementary on my Vm , gotta say , still one of the best looking versions of linux out there
[09:01] <foobarry> used it every day for about 3 years
[09:02] <foobarry> really good for getting work done in the style i like
[09:04] <knightwise> foobarry: agreed. Seriously thinking of replacing 14.04 on my XPS with Elementary
[09:04] <foobarry> there's a new one coming soon
[09:04] <foobarry> but yeah, i love it
[09:04] <foobarry> and it's fast
[09:04] <foobarry> without comporomising on usability
[09:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:22] <awilkins> Is it just Pantheon or the whole of Elementary?
[09:31] <foobarry> pardon?
[09:32] <awilkins> Pantheon is the desktop environment for Elementary
[09:33] <awilkins> knightwise was talking about Elementary up there ^
[09:34] <foobarry> knightwise: see if you can figure this out though http://elementaryos.stackexchange.com/questions/4556/make-pantheon-terminal-window-appear-on-all-workspaces
[11:05] <foobarry> anyone got issues accessing google?
[11:05] <zmoylan-pi> i don't like their privacy stance... :-P ::goes to check::
[11:06] <zmoylan-pi> google.com seems to work fine
[11:11] <foobarry> think its a JANET prob
[11:20] <popey> exobuzz: when we getting a pi 3 build of your lovely emulation software? :)
[12:15] <foobarry> attended a metal detecting club meeting yesterday. was very busy.
[12:16] <foobarry> have to join a waiting list to get in :(
[12:22] <popey> Detectorists!
[12:22] <popey> loved that programme
[12:27] <foobarry> seems less geeky than LUG or scale model society
[12:27] <foobarry> but only just. lots of nolwedgable and friendly , quite normal people. had a v interesting talk too
[12:29] <popey> Well, they're people who go outside for a start :)
[12:30] <foobarry> one guy at the club  found a silver coin in last few weeks that was worth £3-5k
[12:30] <zmoylan-pi> does that not belong to the queen?
[12:31] <popey> 50/50 with land-owner innit?
[12:31] <foobarry> nope, only if found in a larger stash
[12:31] <foobarry> treasure rules are different with coins
[12:31] <foobarry> was a lovely piece
[12:31] <popey> what prompted the visit?
[12:32] <foobarry> starting the hobby
[12:32] <foobarry> a latent desire for some years
[12:32] <foobarry> also connected with dreams of fossil hunting as a boy but metal detecting is more realistic and fruitful (just)
[12:33] <foobarry> Any metallic object, other than a coin, provided that at least 10 per cent by weight of metal is precious metal (that is, gold or silver) and that it is at least 300 years old when found. If the object is of prehistoric date it will be Treasure provided any part of it is precious metal
[12:33] <popey> Is it expensive to get started?
[12:33] <foobarry> Any group of two or more metallic objects of any composition of prehistoric date that come from the same find (see below)
[12:33] <foobarry> yes and no
[12:33] <foobarry> actually quite a cheap hobby
[12:33] <zmoylan-pi> no amateur ground penetrating radars yet then? :-)
[12:33] <popey> :)
[12:33] <foobarry> but all land is owned so you need to detect on land that has permission. this is usually done through a club
[12:33] <zmoylan-pi> might be doable with rasp pis...
[12:34] <foobarry> a beginner detector that will find good stuff is around ~200
[12:34] <foobarry> plus a pinponter probe for £100
[12:34] <foobarry> and a shovel and camo clothes (everyone wears camo for some reason a bit like black tshirts on linux geeks)
[12:35] <popey> heheh
[12:35] <foobarry> this guy has a great chan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQLsInujZnw
[12:35] <zmoylan-pi> cheap ex military gear going cheap probably
[12:35] <foobarry> watch some of these and you will be hooked
[12:36] <foobarry> a pro detector costs £1300
[12:36] <foobarry> but it is not 5x better
[12:38] <gebbione> services like tracker-miner, zeitgeist-fts etc are always eating RAM on my system
[12:39] <foobarry> you can turn them off
[12:39] <gebbione> they push it so much that all other applications slow down and degrade incredibly
[12:46] <zmoylan-pi> zooooom
[12:53] <popey> tracker-miner... ?
[12:53] <popey> never heard of that
[13:10] <awilkins> Some kind of issue-tracking aggregator?
[14:11] <davmor2> popey: oh oh oh is that the ubuntu port of manic-miner?
[14:13]  * popey steps on davmor2 
[14:13] <davmor2> popey: no that mario manic dies if he does that :D
[15:38] <diddledan> manic miner. now that's going back some years
[15:38] <zmoylan-pi> first game i played on a speccy i think
[15:38] <zmoylan-pi> or it might have been a rip off called technican ted
[15:48] <exobuzz> popey, the image just released of v3.6 of retropie should work fine on the rpi3
[15:48] <popey> yay exobuzz
[15:48] <exobuzz> :)
[15:48] <diddledan> ergh @ clickbait titles
[15:48] <popey> has it been tested on one?
[15:49] <diddledan> "person does something.. and you'll never guess what happened next!"
[15:49] <exobuzz> yeh - but not mine (which only just arrived)
[15:49] <exobuzz> but the rpi3 is rpi2 compatible so we just needed the latest firmware on the raspbian based image
[15:49] <popey> yeah
[15:49] <popey> exobuzz: btw http://blog.petrockblock.com/retropie/retropie-downloads/retropie-sd-card-image-for-raspberry-pi-2-2/ says "Berryboot version version" (excessive version)
[15:50] <exobuzz> oh yeh - not my blog that so cant really do anything
[15:50] <exobuzz> the founder of the retropie projects site - we are moving to a standalone site soon
[15:50] <exobuzz> ill email him regarding it
[15:50] <popey> cool
[15:50]  * popey downloads
[15:51] <popey> gonna move my picade from pi2 to pi3
[15:52] <exobuzz> the new bluetooth may not work yet (has been reported - probably missing a driver)
[15:52] <exobuzz> it works on raspbian, so I guess we miss a package or something
[15:52] <exobuzz> ill fix it up as soon as I have my rpi3 set up
[18:18] <Azelphur> I am living up to my reputation of being the god of breaking things
[18:19] <diddledan> don't mention your hdd to daftykins or you'll break that too
[18:19]  * daftykins twitches
[18:19] <diddledan> o/
[18:20] <Azelphur> Got a Logitech G933 which needed a firmware update, set up a brand new windows install for the occasion, the installer launched a 2nd instance of itself ~20% of the way through the process and bricked the headset. Tried to do an RMA, broke Logitechs website: http://imgur.com/dzxFxb7 tried with todays date, broke it again, http://imgur.com/To0BphB tried leaving all the fields blank since they are optional, broke it again http://imgur.com/k9LYW9K
[18:20] <Azelphur> and just when you thought I couldn't break any more stuff, I broke their phone system trying to call them too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6-Hn2fvOJc
[18:21] <daftykins> smells like a US date format that one :)
[18:21] <Azelphur> daftykins: it uses a date picker widget
[18:22] <daftykins> ah right
[18:22] <daftykins> nicely over-engineered :D
[18:22] <Azelphur> but I did think of that and try flipping the days/months around, just yields the "Oops! something went wrong" error
[18:23] <Azelphur> but amusingly this leaves me with pretty much no way to actually contact Logitech, I'm hoping to get someone on their subreddit, but having tried phone, email and website...yea :/
[18:24] <daftykins> has anyone confirmed that news that Skype on Linux no longer handles calls to users on Mac or Windows that are on the latest clients?
[18:24] <daftykins> what happened with phone?
[18:31] <Azelphur> daftykins: you mean when I phoned them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6-Hn2fvOJc
[18:32] <Azelphur> I'm gonna try the US phone number, pretty crazy but maybe that'll work
[18:33] <daftykins> wow that's a really bad run!
[18:33] <Azelphur> yea, it's impressive
[18:36] <diddledan> I'm not sure you're supposed to press many buttons while she's speaking
[18:36] <daftykins> i reckon he'd done every combo prior to the vid
[18:37] <daftykins> i just called it from skype for fun, the message just loops - although granted it might just be shut now
[18:37] <Azelphur> called the US number, they answered, said hello then hung up
[18:38] <Azelphur> :(
[18:38] <daftykins> aww they know you already
[18:54] <Azelphur> I got a person who gave me an alternate UK number to call tomorrow, progress \o/
[18:54] <daftykins> shame they can't just handle each others same processes given the way things are these days
[18:55] <daftykins> the US and UK systems probably aren't linked i suppose
[18:55] <Azelphur> indeed
[19:21] <m0nkey_> Logitech?
[19:21] <daftykins> yeah
[19:24] <m0nkey_> I've had nothing but good service everytime I've called.
[19:24] <m0nkey_> Called for replacement parts a year ago, they didn't even charge me.
[19:24] <m0nkey_> Wasnt even under warranty
[19:24] <Azelphur> m0nkey_: yea, I had a really good experience with their returns last time I used it too
[19:25] <Azelphur> The problem is I just can't get through to their returns, website is broken, email bounces telling you to use the website, phone is broken.
[19:25] <m0nkey_> Heh
[19:25] <m0nkey_> I just start pressing random numbers at that point when calling to speak to a human.
[19:25] <m0nkey_> Or pressing 0 repeatedly also works :)
[19:25] <m0nkey_> Or #
[19:26] <Azelphur> m0nkey_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6-Hn2fvOJc yeeeea...nope
[19:26] <diddledan> the video shows that failing :-p
[19:26] <diddledan> an impressive amount of number mashing right there :-D
[19:26] <Azelphur> lol
[19:26] <diddledan> could try the cap'n crunch whistle?
[19:27] <Azelphur> hehe
[19:27] <diddledan> that would be an awesome easter egg on a hacking firm's phone system
[19:27] <m0nkey_> How about using a real phone? :P
[19:28] <diddledan> does android not count as real?
[19:28] <diddledan> iphone?
[19:28] <diddledan> :-p
[19:28] <m0nkey_> I'm saying use a land line
[19:28] <diddledan> aah, POTS
[19:28] <Azelphur> I don't have a land line, I tried it through Skype and got the same problem
[19:28] <m0nkey_> I've found some of these call centres the cell phone DTMF doesn't always work.
[19:29] <Azelphur> I say don't have, I mean I don't have it connected and I never use it and I am on a crappy pay as you go plan because I don't want it
[19:29] <m0nkey_> What's the number you were dailing?
[19:29] <m0nkey_> I'll give it a try
[19:29] <Azelphur> 01753 870900
[19:29] <diddledan> +44
[19:29] <daftykins> i tried it from skype too and it was definitely a no-go, but right now it might be due to lines being closed too
[19:29] <m0nkey_> dialing
[19:29] <Azelphur> daftykins: nah, been trying it all day
[19:30] <daftykins> Azelphur: but i mean now even if it did work, now it probably wouldn't anyway if they keep office hours
[19:30] <Azelphur> for reference, that number comes from http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/contact
[19:30] <m0nkey_> yup
[19:30] <m0nkey_> it's broken
[19:30] <daftykins> although the way the message loops is weird as hell
[19:30] <Azelphur> m0nkey_: hahaha
[19:30] <m0nkey_> doesn't even work here in canada
[19:30] <Azelphur> daftykins: true
[19:31] <m0nkey_> tried the alternative number?
[19:31] <m0nkey_> +44 (0)203 024 81 59
[19:32] <Azelphur> where'd you get that from? I only found that number after calling their US line
[19:32] <m0nkey_> that one appears to work
[19:32] <m0nkey_> http://support.logitech.com/en_gb/contact
[19:32] <Azelphur> yea but closed, gonna call it tomorrow
[19:32] <m0nkey_> then hit the "contact by phone" number
[19:33] <Azelphur> ah, yea I didn't spot that one there.
[19:33] <daftykins> that's a squeezebox line :D i have one of those!
[19:34] <diddledan> that's their sales number. you want +44 (0)203 024 81 59 (as m0nkey_ already found)
[19:35] <Azelphur> diddledan: yea, just weird they have multiple contact pages
[19:35] <daftykins> i wouldn't be surprised if the squeezebox line was just "sorry we abandoned these"
[19:36] <diddledan> daftykins, it's listed as their main support number
[19:36] <diddledan> they also have the number listed on squeezebox and cameras
[19:36] <daftykins> oh yeah, i'm having a bad habit of not reading things fully today
[19:37] <diddledan> there's an international europe number too but I would guess that's just for cheaper contacting when in mainland
[19:37] <diddledan> their support hours are 8am-5pm GMT
[19:37] <diddledan> 9-6 CET
[19:52] <davmor2> meh just use webrtc
[19:53] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/GeekandSundry/status/705118435798192128
[19:59] <davmor2> diddledan: I thought D this was a dragon
[20:08] <m0nkey_> lol, this is what Super Tuesday looks like on Google Trends: https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%22how%20can%20I%20move%20to%20Canada%22&geo=US&date=now%207-d&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT
[20:57] <mapps> hola
[22:17] <diddledan> https://blog.adafruit.com/2016/03/02/pi-3-x-ray-raspberry_pi-raspberrypi-pi3/
[22:26] <daftykins> do you think they'll follow up with the Pi 3.141592 ?
[22:26] <diddledan> oh I do so hope
[22:27] <daftykins> https://medium.com/@rosshosman/1password-sends-your-password-across-the-loopback-interface-in-clear-text-307cefca6389 0o
[22:28] <mapps> lol
[22:47] <diddledan> maximilian apparently is insane and has a hairy track/path. (Mad Max's Fury Road)
[22:47] <diddledan> morning, m0nkey_
[22:49] <mapps> work time ugh
[22:53] <daftykins> drat, cpc is under maintenance so i can't browse :P
[22:58] <diddledan> typical
[22:59] <diddledan> want a pi3?
[23:05] <diddledan> m0nkey_, did someone tie a string to you and started bumping you up-and-down like a yoyo?
[23:05] <daftykins> god no, i avoid those things :)
[23:05] <daftykins> i need to get a 48 port patch panel for the boss' Spain place
[23:06] <diddledan> he still messing with that place?
[23:08] <daftykins> whole thing is being refurbed at the moment yeah, got a boatload of boxes ready to send a tonne of junk down there
[23:08] <daftykins> for some reason he wants his DVD film collection down there
[23:08]  * diddledan rewatching mission impossible rogue nation
[23:09] <diddledan> benji is fun
[23:12] <daftykins> Simon Pegg?
[23:12] <diddledan> yup
[23:26] <diddledan> security professionals be all about dat APT thing: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/705172246067712000
[23:39] <daftykins> i felt like he turned a serious franchise into a half-assed comedy
[23:40] <daftykins> totally weird vibe