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superflyMaaz: tell Kilos good morning 05:02
Maazsuperfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode05:02
Kilosmorning superfly 05:13
superflyLekker geslaap, oom? 05:14
Kilosja dankie. ek hoop jy het ook genoeg slaap gekry05:14
superflyJa, dankie 05:15
superflyKilos: so what's on the cards for today? 05:28
Kiloswell hoping to benchmark the lappy stanard drive and the 128g ssd05:29
Kilosand do some more work trying to get ians router working with 3g05:29
Kilosyou at work superfly ?05:30
superflyNo, still on the train 05:30
Kilosah05:30
Kiloswill see if the benchmarking thing slows stuff down05:31
Kilosoh and a pile of mails to read as well05:31
superflyMr Popular05:35
Kilosnono05:35
Kilosmost are alternative health and mails about bad peeps running the world05:35
Kilosand new members applying without wiki pages etc05:36
Kiloshows the family superfly ?05:37
superflyThey're good. No complaints. 05:37
Kilosyay05:38
superflyTrying to convince the little lady that crawling is easier and faster than scooting around on her bum. 05:39
Kiloslol05:39
superflyShe can crawl, she just chooses not to. 05:39
Kilosthey so cute when they do that05:39
thatgraemeguymornings05:41
Kiloshi thatgraemeguy 05:41
Kilosinetpro good morning06:02
chesedoola all06:59
Kiloshi chesedo 06:59
anton_maymorning all07:44
magespawngood morning07:59
magespawnKilos?08:18
Kiloshi magespawn 08:18
Kilossorry trying to install teamviewer so i can see what ian is doing08:18
magespawnteamviewer on linux08:20
magespawn?08:20
Kilosya08:20
magespawnthere is a .deb for that, download and open with archive manager08:20
magespawnfrom the teamviewer website08:21
Kilosi have it08:21
magespawnand?08:21
Kilosbut when i tried to install it hid the install window behind the dolphin window so i couldnt see and click install08:21
Kilosjust found it08:22
magespawnahh, so all good then?08:22
Kiloshi Wolfeyes 08:26
Kilosyeah magespawn getting there08:26
WolfeyesHi Kilos and Everyone else08:26
Kiloshe is installing squid on server08:27
magespawnhi Wolfeyes 08:27
Wolfeyeshey magespawn08:27
magespawnKilos: Ian/08:27
magespawn?08:27
WolfeyesMy name - Ian08:27
Kiloslol08:27
magespawnsquid as a proxy server?08:28
WolfeyesWhat is the difference between the two?08:28
WolfeyesI thought squid was a proxy server.08:28
magespawnit can also do web caching, so that you save data, also web filtering etc08:29
WolfeyesI think squid would be the better option then as they want web filtering, all staff only allowed on one website and certain staff of all websites.08:31
magespawnWolfeyes: let me know how it goes, i am interested in your results08:32
WolfeyesWhen it is completed lol - sure.08:32
magespawni think there is a lot of setup to do regarding the web filtering08:33
WolfeyesOh boy.08:33
magespawni had a brief look at it, and resolved to go back when i had more time, which has not happened yet08:34
Wolfeyeslol08:34
WolfeyesI know that feeling very well08:34
magespawnbusy with upgrading an asteriskNOW/FreePBX install08:38
WolfeyesThat is one of those projects when I had more time I would look at it lol08:39
WolfeyesAfter this I think I will look at the rasberry pi first though.08:40
magespawndo you have one Wolfeyes ?08:44
WolfeyesI want t get one, I have two seperate applications I want to get them to work on.08:47
magespawni just got a pi b+, works like a bomb, wolfram mathematica is giving me some licence issues08:49
magespawnpi 2 b+08:49
magespawni see they have just release the version 308:49
magespawnfor $35 so about R60008:50
bushtech_R640 at RS08:51
WolfeyesThat is reasonable for what I want to do with it.08:52
bushtech_http://za.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/8968660/08:53
Wolfeyesty bushtech_08:56
magespawnthats me done, got to go, chat later all09:02
chesedothere are also some docker squid images if one does not feel like the hasle to set one up09:37
chesedoalthought the setup is the easiest imo - it is the iptable rules that are hard to figure out09:38
chesedowhen using intercept mode09:38
magespawnhello10:35
theblazehenhi magespawn10:38
magespawnhi theblazehen 11:01
magespawnKilos asleep again?11:01
Kiloswas eating sorry11:35
magespawnlol, no problem Kilos, just giving you a little stick12:24
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iqbalhi13:28
magespawnpack time. chat later all, cheers13:29
Kiloshi iqbal 14:16
Kiloshmm...  i fall asleep and so does everyone else14:24
Private_UserKilos, on your keyboard and awake to your machine beeping like crazy?14:37
Private_Userlol14:38
Kiloslol14:38
Kiloshi kmf14:57
kmfhi Kilos 14:58
Kilosany news sir?14:58
kmfno sorry nothing yet15:02
Kilosaw i thought they would have approved use of he logo by now15:03
kmfit's the use of the name :)15:06
Kilosok well if they dont give it right off we start nagging15:06
kmf:D15:08
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iqbalhi15:48
Kilosyou winning iqbal ?15:48
Kilos\sorry ive missed you15:48
iqbalnp15:49
iqbali've upgraded to 14.04, my WiFi is working15:49
Kilossometimes i sleep and others i act like im awake15:49
Kilosgreat15:49
iqbal;)15:49
iqbali've installed Synaptics Package Manager15:50
Kilosthats good15:50
Kilosthat has all the packages in it15:50
Kilosand can install remove upgrade and fix broken packages15:51
iqbalI'm on IRC Channel via Mozilla Firefox15:51
Kilosget an irc client like xchat15:51
Kilosit is in synaptic15:52
iqbalwhich one?15:52
Kilosopen synaptic and type xchat in the little search block top right i think it is15:53
iqbaldone15:53
iqbalthere's a list15:53
Kilosthen tick the block left of xchat and tick the install arrow ate the top15:54
Kilosjust tick the top one15:55
Kilosit will install whatever else is needed15:55
iqbalok, downloading15:56
iqbaldone15:57
Kilosyou can use synaptic to do all needed upgrades etc as well15:57
iqbalok15:57
Kilosyou tick the reload button the mark all upgrades button the the apply arrow15:58
iqbaldone15:58
Kilosok15:59
iqbalwhich network do i connect to?15:59
Kilosin the dash type in xchat15:59
iqbaldone15:59
Kilosfreenode and server chat.freenode.net15:59
Kilosand add channel #ubuntu-za16:00
iqbal_hi16:01
Kiloshi16:01
Kiloswell done16:01
iqbal_cool16:01
iqbal_thanks16:01
iqbal_i closed the firefox one16:02
Kilosyou will find just about everything you need in synaptic16:02
Kilosi saw16:02
iqbal_so, what do i need?16:02
Kilosnow fix your nickname16:02
Kilostype in /nick iqbal16:03
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Kilosall depends what you need16:03
Kilosfor movies and music install vlc16:04
iqbalis there Google Earth? Maps?16:04
Kilosgoogleearth-package16:05
iqbaldo i need an antivirus/ malware?16:05
Kilosin synaptic16:05
Kilosno16:05
Kilosjust install gufw16:05
Kilosthats a good grahic firewall16:06
iqbalok16:06
iqbalsomething like ccleaner?16:06
Kilosnot needed16:06
iqbalgreat16:07
iqbalthanks, much appreciated16:07
Kilosyou are welcome16:07
Wolfeyeshttp://bin.snyman.info/mmm5727516:12
WolfeyesMy understanding is this is my network interfaces, why is there three if I only have two network points?16:13
Kiloslooks like everyone is on their ways home16:14
Kilostheblazehen ?16:14
theblazehenWolfeyes: Is one of them lo?16:16
Wolfeyesyes sir16:16
theblazehenKilos: Who runs the bin?16:16
Kilosther fly16:16
theblazehenWolfeyes: That's just loopback, so 127.0.0.1. The others are your actual interfaces16:16
Wolfeyesah, cool thank you16:17
WolfeyesThat makes more sense now16:17
theblazehenOk, nevermind. The dns was down for a bit, back up now16:17
theblazehenIt's a pleasure Wolfeyes16:17
Kilosah16:17
Kilostheblazehen Wolfeyes is my son16:17
theblazehenKilos: Ah, okay16:18
Kilosand he is old so be patient16:19
Kiloshehe16:19
iqbalhi Kilos16:20
Kiloshi iqbal 16:20
* chesedo now has an even scarier image of Kilos with a son named Wolfeyes :P16:21
Kiloslol16:21
Wolfeyeslol16:22
iqbali'm used to Chrome and Android...how is Chromium vs Firefox?16:22
Kilosyou can use chrome in ubuntu16:22
iqbalhow?16:23
Kilosi dont use firefox i use opera-browser16:23
iqbalok16:23
Kilosim sure chrome is in synaptic16:23
Kilosmight be called google-chrome16:24
KilosMaaz google how to install google chrome on 14.0416:24
MaazKilos: "Beginner: How to Install Google Chrome in Ubuntu 14.04" http://www.howtogeek.com/203768/beginner-how-to-install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-14.04/ :: "software installation - How to install Google Chrome? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/510056/how-to-install-google-chrome :: "Installing Chrome on Ubuntu 14.04 - Ask Ubuntu"16:24
Maazhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/642758/installing-chrome-on-ubuntu-14-04 :: "Install or Upgrade Google Chrome 48 on…16:24
Kilosiqbal ^^16:24
iqbalthanks, when i click on the link, it doesn't do anything? i thought it would open in my browser?16:27
Kilosit should16:27
Kilosright click copy the link and paste it in your browser16:27
iqbali've installed the Chromium Browser. is it the same like Chrome?16:28
Kilosi think chrome is similar to chromium16:30
Kilosmaybe im wrong but i thought chromium was out first16:30
theblazeheniqbal: chromium is chrome with some of the closed source google stuff taken out AFAIK16:32
Kiloshi fusionsparc 16:51
fusionsparcHi Kilos...doing well?16:52
Kilosyes ty and you?16:53
fusionsparcDoing well.. :)16:57
fusionsparcHave you played with Ubuntu 16.04 I think...16:57
Kilosnope16:57
fusionsparcWatched some youtube vids on features, not enough to switch in my opinion..16:58
fusionsparcWhats the frequincy of updates for kubuntu a year?16:58
Kiloslots16:59
Kilosall ubuntu updates often to keep secure16:59
fusionsparcI mean ver. update...16:59
Kiloslts every 2 years 16:59
fusionsparcah17:00
Kilosand every 6 months on non lts17:00
fusionsparcI see..17:00
fusionsparcYou running Lts of short term?17:00
Kiloslts17:00
Kilosi must go eat17:01
Kiloswbb17:01
fusionsparcenjoy17:01
Kilosfusionsparc if you dont have data cap ofr costs to worry about its actually exciting upgrading every 6 months17:23
fusionsparclol..isn't the short term release normally the beta releases?17:25
Kilosno they have final releases17:25
fusionsparci see..17:26
fusionsparcmight look into that..17:27
Kilosif you have two pcs then keeping lts to lts is good on one and the other used for checking all the new stuff17:28
fusionsparcwith every new release, do you need to install from scratch or upgrade existing release?17:28
Kilosyou can upgrade17:28
fusionsparcok17:28
fusionsparconly have one pc so still contemplating it.17:32
Kiloslol17:32
fusionsparcbbl...dinner time..17:33
Kilosenjoy17:33
Wolfeyeshttp://bin.snyman.info/mmm9ttsc17:45
Wolfeyeswhen I have this written in interfaces it works17:45
Kilosgood17:46
Wolfeyeshttp://bin.snyman.info/mmmmmvt517:47
Wolfeyesand this doesn't work17:47
Kiloslol use what makes it work17:48
WolfeyesCan someone explain why please17:48
Wolfeyesit has to be static17:48
chesedowhen it is dynamic run `ifconfig` and base the static of that17:49
Kiloslets hear what the clever peeps say17:49
Wolfeyeswould that setup change more if I am using arno's iptables?17:49
Wolfeyesgoes to look17:49
Wolfeyeshttp://bin.snyman.info/mmmnxr5n17:52
Wolfeyesthis is the working dynamic17:52
Wolfeyeswith "ifconfig"17:53
chesedomost of the static then seems correct... just can't confirm gateway and network17:54
chesedoalthough thing network might need to be a subset17:55
chesedowhy does it have to be static?17:55
Wolfeyesbecause it is going to be a server on a network, and all the computers will have their own ip address.17:56
chesedothis the internal nic?17:56
Wolfeyesnic?17:57
chesedointerface17:57
Wolfeyesyes17:57
Wolfeyesthe server will run the firewall and squid to the other computers17:57
chesedotry setting network to 192.168.1.017:59
WolfeyesWill do17:59
chesedowill the computers also have static addresses?17:59
* chesedo 's server ends that way18:00
Wolfeyesyes they will18:00
Wolfeyesbrb testing18:01
chesedooh this is the server (gateway) so set gateway to its address too18:01
WolfeyesOkay that didn't work.18:05
Kilos<chesedo> oh this is the server (gateway) so set gateway to its address too18:05
WolfeyesWouldn't the gateway be the router ip which is 192.168.1.1? (Just a question)18:07
chesedoumm, is your setup from the inside: computers -> server -> router?18:08
Wolfeyesyes18:08
Wolfeyesbrb18:09
chesedoso the router is the gateway for the server, and the server is then the gateway for the computers18:09
fusionsparcstupid question, after changing ip's etc, does one need to restart the interface or it updates by default?18:16
chesedofusionsparc: think the connection needs to be re-establised18:17
fusionsparci see..18:17
chesedoat least for static ones18:18
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:18
fusionsparcchers kilos..18:18
chesedonight Kilos18:18
magespawngood evening18:30
CryterionHi everyone18:42
magespawnhi Cryterion 18:42
CryterionHeya magespawn. How things18:43
magespawngood and you?18:44
CryterionAll good. Just bit tired. 8hr drives take there toll18:44
magespawnthat they do18:45
CryterionAnd have another one in the morning grr18:45
magespawnwhere are you driving from and to? that must almost limpopo to cape town18:46
magespawn^be18:46
CryterionWitbank back to durbs18:47
magespawnwell at least it is a relatively nice road18:48
magespawnwhich way do you go, before i make that statement18:48
magespawn?18:48
CryterionThere's not much of a shortcut. Both routes about the same. I'll decide in the morning. Can either hit middleburg then down via newcastle. Or head to jhb then via heidelburg18:50
magespawni recently did some cross country driving, and it was beneficial for me to stay on the toll roads even though there was a cheaper route, only took 6 hours from Komaatipoort to Klerksdorp18:52
CryterionWon't hit jhb. There's a route off n12 going direct to heidelburg18:53
magespawnyes i use that one a bit when going to kelrksdorp from hluhluwe18:53
CryterionYeah. I tried the country roads on way up today18:54
magespawnthey are always a bit of a risk, last time i hit about 50 km of detour, that had been there so long the detour needed to be fixed18:55
CryterionThinking off going the middleburg route down n11. That way i stop in on a job someone else is driving up for 18:57
magespawntwo birds with one stone?18:58
CryterionThink 90% of upgrades on n11 are done now anyway. And yeah two birds one stone18:58
magespawnseems like a long way to drive for a job, wouldn't local be cheaper?19:01
CryterionNo one capable. 19:02
magespawnahh i see, as always19:02
CryterionThere's major power problems in witbank atm19:02
CryterionPower was out where i am for about 3hrs earlier19:03
magespawnjoy and happiness19:04
magespawnquite ironic, really19:05
CryterionHad a controllers entire psu system blown last week due to switching surges between genset and eskom +-10 times a night19:06
magespawnno ups? or is that not possible?19:06
magespawnbed time-ish,good night all19:13
CryterionNight19:13
inetproeveryone sleeping already20:44
inetproai!20:44
inetprogood night21:15

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