[05:02] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos good morning 
[05:02] <Maaz> superfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:13] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[05:14] <superfly> Lekker geslaap, oom? 
[05:14] <Kilos> ja dankie. ek hoop jy het ook genoeg slaap gekry
[05:15] <superfly> Ja, dankie 
[05:28] <superfly> Kilos: so what's on the cards for today? 
[05:29] <Kilos> well hoping to benchmark the lappy stanard drive and the 128g ssd
[05:29] <Kilos> and do some more work trying to get ians router working with 3g
[05:30] <Kilos> you at work superfly ?
[05:30] <superfly> No, still on the train 
[05:30] <Kilos> ah
[05:31] <Kilos> will see if the benchmarking thing slows stuff down
[05:31] <Kilos> oh and a pile of mails to read as well
[05:35] <superfly> Mr Popular
[05:35] <Kilos> nono
[05:35] <Kilos> most are alternative health and mails about bad peeps running the world
[05:36] <Kilos> and new members applying without wiki pages etc
[05:37] <Kilos> hows the family superfly ?
[05:37] <superfly> They're good. No complaints. 
[05:38] <Kilos> yay
[05:39] <superfly> Trying to convince the little lady that crawling is easier and faster than scooting around on her bum. 
[05:39] <Kilos> lol
[05:39] <superfly> She can crawl, she just chooses not to. 
[05:39] <Kilos> they so cute when they do that
[05:41] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[05:41] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy 
[06:02] <Kilos> inetpro good morning
[06:59] <chesedo> ola all
[06:59] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[07:44] <anton_may> morning all
[07:59] <magespawn> good morning
[08:18] <magespawn> Kilos?
[08:18] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[08:18] <Kilos> sorry trying to install teamviewer so i can see what ian is doing
[08:20] <magespawn> teamviewer on linux
[08:20] <magespawn> ?
[08:20] <Kilos> ya
[08:20] <magespawn> there is a .deb for that, download and open with archive manager
[08:21] <magespawn> from the teamviewer website
[08:21] <Kilos> i have it
[08:21] <magespawn> and?
[08:21] <Kilos> but when i tried to install it hid the install window behind the dolphin window so i couldnt see and click install
[08:22] <Kilos> just found it
[08:22] <magespawn> ahh, so all good then?
[08:26] <Kilos> hi Wolfeyes 
[08:26] <Kilos> yeah magespawn getting there
[08:26] <Wolfeyes> Hi Kilos and Everyone else
[08:27] <Kilos> he is installing squid on server
[08:27] <magespawn> hi Wolfeyes 
[08:27] <Wolfeyes> hey magespawn
[08:27] <magespawn> Kilos: Ian/
[08:27] <magespawn> ?
[08:27] <Wolfeyes> My name - Ian
[08:27] <Kilos> lol
[08:28] <magespawn> squid as a proxy server?
[08:28] <Wolfeyes> What is the difference between the two?
[08:28] <Wolfeyes> I thought squid was a proxy server.
[08:29] <magespawn> it can also do web caching, so that you save data, also web filtering etc
[08:31] <Wolfeyes> I think squid would be the better option then as they want web filtering, all staff only allowed on one website and certain staff of all websites.
[08:32] <magespawn> Wolfeyes: let me know how it goes, i am interested in your results
[08:32] <Wolfeyes> When it is completed lol - sure.
[08:33] <magespawn> i think there is a lot of setup to do regarding the web filtering
[08:33] <Wolfeyes> Oh boy.
[08:34] <magespawn> i had a brief look at it, and resolved to go back when i had more time, which has not happened yet
[08:34] <Wolfeyes> lol
[08:34] <Wolfeyes> I know that feeling very well
[08:38] <magespawn> busy with upgrading an asteriskNOW/FreePBX install
[08:39] <Wolfeyes> That is one of those projects when I had more time I would look at it lol
[08:40] <Wolfeyes> After this I think I will look at the rasberry pi first though.
[08:44] <magespawn> do you have one Wolfeyes ?
[08:47] <Wolfeyes> I want t get one, I have two seperate applications I want to get them to work on.
[08:49] <magespawn> i just got a pi b+, works like a bomb, wolfram mathematica is giving me some licence issues
[08:49] <magespawn> pi 2 b+
[08:49] <magespawn> i see they have just release the version 3
[08:50] <magespawn> for $35 so about R600
[08:51] <bushtech_> R640 at RS
[08:52] <Wolfeyes> That is reasonable for what I want to do with it.
[08:53] <bushtech_> http://za.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/8968660/
[08:56] <Wolfeyes> ty bushtech_
[09:02] <magespawn> thats me done, got to go, chat later all
[09:37] <chesedo> there are also some docker squid images if one does not feel like the hasle to set one up
[09:38] <chesedo> althought the setup is the easiest imo - it is the iptable rules that are hard to figure out
[09:38] <chesedo> when using intercept mode
[10:35] <magespawn> hello
[10:38] <theblazehen> hi magespawn
[11:01] <magespawn> hi theblazehen 
[11:01] <magespawn> Kilos asleep again?
[11:35] <Kilos> was eating sorry
[12:24] <magespawn> lol, no problem Kilos, just giving you a little stick
[13:28] <iqbal> hi
[13:29] <magespawn> pack time. chat later all, cheers
[14:16] <Kilos> hi iqbal 
[14:24] <Kilos> hmm...  i fall asleep and so does everyone else
[14:37] <Private_User> Kilos, on your keyboard and awake to your machine beeping like crazy?
[14:38] <Private_User> lol
[14:38] <Kilos> lol
[14:57] <Kilos> hi kmf
[14:58] <kmf> hi Kilos 
[14:58] <Kilos> any news sir?
[15:02] <kmf> no sorry nothing yet
[15:03] <Kilos> aw i thought they would have approved use of he logo by now
[15:06] <kmf> it's the use of the name :)
[15:06] <Kilos> ok well if they dont give it right off we start nagging
[15:08] <kmf> :D
[15:48] <iqbal> hi
[15:48] <Kilos> you winning iqbal ?
[15:48] <Kilos> \sorry ive missed you
[15:49] <iqbal> np
[15:49] <iqbal> i've upgraded to 14.04, my WiFi is working
[15:49] <Kilos> sometimes i sleep and others i act like im awake
[15:49] <Kilos> great
[15:49] <iqbal> ;)
[15:50] <iqbal> i've installed Synaptics Package Manager
[15:50] <Kilos> thats good
[15:50] <Kilos> that has all the packages in it
[15:51] <Kilos> and can install remove upgrade and fix broken packages
[15:51] <iqbal> I'm on IRC Channel via Mozilla Firefox
[15:51] <Kilos> get an irc client like xchat
[15:52] <Kilos> it is in synaptic
[15:52] <iqbal> which one?
[15:53] <Kilos> open synaptic and type xchat in the little search block top right i think it is
[15:53] <iqbal> done
[15:53] <iqbal> there's a list
[15:54] <Kilos> then tick the block left of xchat and tick the install arrow ate the top
[15:55] <Kilos> just tick the top one
[15:55] <Kilos> it will install whatever else is needed
[15:56] <iqbal> ok, downloading
[15:57] <iqbal> done
[15:57] <Kilos> you can use synaptic to do all needed upgrades etc as well
[15:57] <iqbal> ok
[15:58] <Kilos> you tick the reload button the mark all upgrades button the the apply arrow
[15:58] <iqbal> done
[15:59] <Kilos> ok
[15:59] <iqbal> which network do i connect to?
[15:59] <Kilos> in the dash type in xchat
[15:59] <iqbal> done
[15:59] <Kilos> freenode and server chat.freenode.net
[16:00] <Kilos> and add channel #ubuntu-za
[16:01] <iqbal_> hi
[16:01] <Kilos> hi
[16:01] <Kilos> well done
[16:01] <iqbal_> cool
[16:01] <iqbal_> thanks
[16:02] <iqbal_> i closed the firefox one
[16:02] <Kilos> you will find just about everything you need in synaptic
[16:02] <Kilos> i saw
[16:02] <iqbal_> so, what do i need?
[16:02] <Kilos> now fix your nickname
[16:03] <Kilos> type in /nick iqbal
[16:03] <Kilos> all depends what you need
[16:04] <Kilos> for movies and music install vlc
[16:04] <iqbal> is there Google Earth? Maps?
[16:05] <Kilos> googleearth-package
[16:05] <iqbal> do i need an antivirus/ malware?
[16:05] <Kilos> in synaptic
[16:05] <Kilos> no
[16:05] <Kilos> just install gufw
[16:06] <Kilos> thats a good grahic firewall
[16:06] <iqbal> ok
[16:06] <iqbal> something like ccleaner?
[16:06] <Kilos> not needed
[16:07] <iqbal> great
[16:07] <iqbal> thanks, much appreciated
[16:07] <Kilos> you are welcome
[16:12] <Wolfeyes> http://bin.snyman.info/mmm57275
[16:13] <Wolfeyes> My understanding is this is my network interfaces, why is there three if I only have two network points?
[16:14] <Kilos> looks like everyone is on their ways home
[16:14] <Kilos> theblazehen ?
[16:16] <theblazehen> Wolfeyes: Is one of them lo?
[16:16] <Wolfeyes> yes sir
[16:16] <theblazehen> Kilos: Who runs the bin?
[16:16] <Kilos> ther fly
[16:16] <theblazehen> Wolfeyes: That's just loopback, so 127.0.0.1. The others are your actual interfaces
[16:17] <Wolfeyes> ah, cool thank you
[16:17] <Wolfeyes> That makes more sense now
[16:17] <theblazehen> Ok, nevermind. The dns was down for a bit, back up now
[16:17] <theblazehen> It's a pleasure Wolfeyes
[16:17] <Kilos> ah
[16:17] <Kilos> theblazehen Wolfeyes is my son
[16:18] <theblazehen> Kilos: Ah, okay
[16:19] <Kilos> and he is old so be patient
[16:19] <Kilos> hehe
[16:20] <iqbal> hi Kilos
[16:20] <Kilos> hi iqbal 
[16:21]  * chesedo now has an even scarier image of Kilos with a son named Wolfeyes :P
[16:21] <Kilos> lol
[16:22] <Wolfeyes> lol
[16:22] <iqbal> i'm used to Chrome and Android...how is Chromium vs Firefox?
[16:22] <Kilos> you can use chrome in ubuntu
[16:23] <iqbal> how?
[16:23] <Kilos> i dont use firefox i use opera-browser
[16:23] <iqbal> ok
[16:23] <Kilos> im sure chrome is in synaptic
[16:24] <Kilos> might be called google-chrome
[16:24] <Kilos> Maaz google how to install google chrome on 14.04
[16:24] <Maaz> Kilos: "Beginner: How to Install Google Chrome in Ubuntu 14.04" http://www.howtogeek.com/203768/beginner-how-to-install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-14.04/ :: "software installation - How to install Google Chrome? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/510056/how-to-install-google-chrome :: "Installing Chrome on Ubuntu 14.04 - Ask Ubuntu"
[16:24] <Maaz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/642758/installing-chrome-on-ubuntu-14-04 :: "Install or Upgrade Google Chrome 48 on…
[16:24] <Kilos> iqbal ^^
[16:27] <iqbal> thanks, when i click on the link, it doesn't do anything? i thought it would open in my browser?
[16:27] <Kilos> it should
[16:27] <Kilos> right click copy the link and paste it in your browser
[16:28] <iqbal> i've installed the Chromium Browser. is it the same like Chrome?
[16:30] <Kilos> i think chrome is similar to chromium
[16:30] <Kilos> maybe im wrong but i thought chromium was out first
[16:32] <theblazehen> iqbal: chromium is chrome with some of the closed source google stuff taken out AFAIK
[16:51] <Kilos> hi fusionsparc 
[16:52] <fusionsparc> Hi Kilos...doing well?
[16:53] <Kilos> yes ty and you?
[16:57] <fusionsparc> Doing well.. :)
[16:57] <fusionsparc> Have you played with Ubuntu 16.04 I think...
[16:57] <Kilos> nope
[16:58] <fusionsparc> Watched some youtube vids on features, not enough to switch in my opinion..
[16:58] <fusionsparc> Whats the frequincy of updates for kubuntu a year?
[16:59] <Kilos> lots
[16:59] <Kilos> all ubuntu updates often to keep secure
[16:59] <fusionsparc> I mean ver. update...
[16:59] <Kilos> lts every 2 years 
[17:00] <fusionsparc> ah
[17:00] <Kilos> and every 6 months on non lts
[17:00] <fusionsparc> I see..
[17:00] <fusionsparc> You running Lts of short term?
[17:00] <Kilos> lts
[17:01] <Kilos> i must go eat
[17:01] <Kilos> wbb
[17:01] <fusionsparc> enjoy
[17:23] <Kilos> fusionsparc if you dont have data cap ofr costs to worry about its actually exciting upgrading every 6 months
[17:25] <fusionsparc> lol..isn't the short term release normally the beta releases?
[17:25] <Kilos> no they have final releases
[17:26] <fusionsparc> i see..
[17:27] <fusionsparc> might look into that..
[17:28] <Kilos> if you have two pcs then keeping lts to lts is good on one and the other used for checking all the new stuff
[17:28] <fusionsparc> with every new release, do you need to install from scratch or upgrade existing release?
[17:28] <Kilos> you can upgrade
[17:28] <fusionsparc> ok
[17:32] <fusionsparc> only have one pc so still contemplating it.
[17:32] <Kilos> lol
[17:33] <fusionsparc> bbl...dinner time..
[17:33] <Kilos> enjoy
[17:45] <Wolfeyes> http://bin.snyman.info/mmm9ttsc
[17:45] <Wolfeyes> when I have this written in interfaces it works
[17:46] <Kilos> good
[17:47] <Wolfeyes> http://bin.snyman.info/mmmmmvt5
[17:47] <Wolfeyes> and this doesn't work
[17:48] <Kilos> lol use what makes it work
[17:48] <Wolfeyes> Can someone explain why please
[17:48] <Wolfeyes> it has to be static
[17:49] <chesedo> when it is dynamic run `ifconfig` and base the static of that
[17:49] <Kilos> lets hear what the clever peeps say
[17:49] <Wolfeyes> would that setup change more if I am using arno's iptables?
[17:49] <Wolfeyes> goes to look
[17:52] <Wolfeyes> http://bin.snyman.info/mmmnxr5n
[17:52] <Wolfeyes> this is the working dynamic
[17:53] <Wolfeyes> with "ifconfig"
[17:54] <chesedo> most of the static then seems correct... just can't confirm gateway and network
[17:55] <chesedo> although thing network might need to be a subset
[17:55] <chesedo> why does it have to be static?
[17:56] <Wolfeyes> because it is going to be a server on a network, and all the computers will have their own ip address.
[17:56] <chesedo> this the internal nic?
[17:57] <Wolfeyes> nic?
[17:57] <chesedo> interface
[17:57] <Wolfeyes> yes
[17:57] <Wolfeyes> the server will run the firewall and squid to the other computers
[17:59] <chesedo> try setting network to 192.168.1.0
[17:59] <Wolfeyes> Will do
[17:59] <chesedo> will the computers also have static addresses?
[18:00]  * chesedo 's server ends that way
[18:00] <Wolfeyes> yes they will
[18:01] <Wolfeyes> brb testing
[18:01] <chesedo> oh this is the server (gateway) so set gateway to its address too
[18:05] <Wolfeyes> Okay that didn't work.
 oh this is the server (gateway) so set gateway to its address too
[18:07] <Wolfeyes> Wouldn't the gateway be the router ip which is 192.168.1.1? (Just a question)
[18:08] <chesedo> umm, is your setup from the inside: computers -> server -> router?
[18:08] <Wolfeyes> yes
[18:09] <Wolfeyes> brb
[18:09] <chesedo> so the router is the gateway for the server, and the server is then the gateway for the computers
[18:16] <fusionsparc> stupid question, after changing ip's etc, does one need to restart the interface or it updates by default?
[18:17] <chesedo> fusionsparc: think the connection needs to be re-establised
[18:17] <fusionsparc> i see..
[18:18] <chesedo> at least for static ones
[18:18] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:18] <fusionsparc> chers kilos..
[18:18] <chesedo> night Kilos
[18:30] <magespawn> good evening
[18:42] <Cryterion> Hi everyone
[18:42] <magespawn> hi Cryterion 
[18:43] <Cryterion> Heya magespawn. How things
[18:44] <magespawn> good and you?
[18:44] <Cryterion> All good. Just bit tired. 8hr drives take there toll
[18:45] <magespawn> that they do
[18:45] <Cryterion> And have another one in the morning grr
[18:46] <magespawn> where are you driving from and to? that must almost limpopo to cape town
[18:46] <magespawn> ^be
[18:47] <Cryterion> Witbank back to durbs
[18:48] <magespawn> well at least it is a relatively nice road
[18:48] <magespawn> which way do you go, before i make that statement
[18:48] <magespawn> ?
[18:50] <Cryterion> There's not much of a shortcut. Both routes about the same. I'll decide in the morning. Can either hit middleburg then down via newcastle. Or head to jhb then via heidelburg
[18:52] <magespawn> i recently did some cross country driving, and it was beneficial for me to stay on the toll roads even though there was a cheaper route, only took 6 hours from Komaatipoort to Klerksdorp
[18:53] <Cryterion> Won't hit jhb. There's a route off n12 going direct to heidelburg
[18:53] <magespawn> yes i use that one a bit when going to kelrksdorp from hluhluwe
[18:54] <Cryterion> Yeah. I tried the country roads on way up today
[18:55] <magespawn> they are always a bit of a risk, last time i hit about 50 km of detour, that had been there so long the detour needed to be fixed
[18:57] <Cryterion> Thinking off going the middleburg route down n11. That way i stop in on a job someone else is driving up for 
[18:58] <magespawn> two birds with one stone?
[18:58] <Cryterion> Think 90% of upgrades on n11 are done now anyway. And yeah two birds one stone
[19:01] <magespawn> seems like a long way to drive for a job, wouldn't local be cheaper?
[19:02] <Cryterion> No one capable. 
[19:02] <magespawn> ahh i see, as always
[19:02] <Cryterion> There's major power problems in witbank atm
[19:03] <Cryterion> Power was out where i am for about 3hrs earlier
[19:04] <magespawn> joy and happiness
[19:05] <magespawn> quite ironic, really
[19:06] <Cryterion> Had a controllers entire psu system blown last week due to switching surges between genset and eskom +-10 times a night
[19:06] <magespawn> no ups? or is that not possible?
[19:13] <magespawn> bed time-ish,good night all
[19:13] <Cryterion> Night
[20:44] <inetpro> everyone sleeping already
[20:44] <inetpro> ai!
[21:15] <inetpro> good night