[00:00] <EriC^^> Bray90820: oh
[00:00] <EriC^^> try sudo service ssh status
[00:01] <EriC^^> well now we know why they went to systemd :P
[00:01] <EriC^^> it's full of weird stuff, haha
[00:01] <Bray90820> ssh start/running, process 1021
[00:01] <Mathisen> what is the best tool to use for sending commands with ssh to multiple servers
[00:02] <EriC^^> Bray90820: i guess it's running then
[00:02] <Ben64> Mathisen: probably "ssh"
[00:02] <Volund> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a system with a hardware RAID1. Currently using 'Try Ubuntu' to see how this thing views the hardware. if I bring up Disks it shows /dev/sda and /dev/sdb individually, but does recognize they are RAID1 array members. I am also seeing a 1tb /dev/dm-0 and I have no idea what this is. DURING INSTALL, if I go to 'Something else' during the disk formatting question... the only available Device is
[00:02] <Volund> /dev/mapper/isw_eadcjfigh_Volume0 which I believe is my RAID. However... under the choice for 'device for boot loader installation' /dev/sda shows up... and so does that Volume0... but it only recognizes it as 1 terabyte, not 8 terabytes. WHAT is going on?
[00:02] <EriC^^> Bray90820: you could add a log output after the cron command, like /root/backup >> /tmp/cronbackup.log 2>&1
[00:03] <EriC^^> it would be pretty useful
[00:03] <Bray90820> Echo6: Right noe the script is running and creating a backup which it desperately needs
[00:03] <EriC^^> Bray90820: or if you already use postfix with cron then nevermind i guess
[00:03] <Mathisen> ben64, any other tools? dont want to ssh to every single one just for updates
[00:04] <EriC^^> Bray90820: ok cool
[00:04] <Bray90820> EriC^^: I have a failing drive which is the reason for all of this
[00:04] <Mathisen> Ben64, i want to do one command and send it to all of them
[00:04] <EriC^^> Bray90820: oh :/
[00:04] <Volund> like it's clearly seeing the RAID1 but... is it recognizing it only as 1tb? Abuh
[00:04] <nacc_> Mathisen: you may want to look at the various lab management tools out there
[00:04] <nacc_> Mathisen: not necessarily ssh, though, but some are
[00:05] <Bray90820> so after the script finishes i'll get back to you
[00:05] <EriC^^> Mathisen: you could make a script that gets the command and sends it to them
[00:05] <Bingo> volund, that grub2 with raid?
[00:05] <EriC^^> Bray90820: ok
[00:05] <Ben64> Mathisen: you should be able to make one command to do it all
[00:06] <genii> Mathisen: Might want to look at clusterssh
[00:06] <Volund> I'm... just going to try the defaul option and see what happens
[00:06]  * Volund selects 'erase disk and install ubuntu'
[00:07] <Mathisen> thx all.. clusterssh will look @ that,
[00:08] <bekks> Mathisen: that stuff works :P
[00:08] <Volund> god I hope this thing doesn't think that the volume is only 1 terabyte
[00:09] <Volund> if it does I will probably have to use LVM X_X
[00:10] <bekks> Volund: LVM is waht you want to use.
[00:11] <Volund> bekks: why do you recommend LVM over hardware RAID1 provided by motherboard?
[00:11]  * Volund doesn't know much about LVM so
[00:11] <bekks> Volund: BEcause you are mixing up things.
[00:11] <Volund> I am?
[00:11] <bekks> Volund: LVM is to be setup on TOP of the physical device.
[00:13] <Volund> *does some more research* ... 'fake raid is the raid provided by the motherboard on many modern machines and many low-end RAID cards'
[00:13] <Volund> ... and that's what I'm using right now. Um, oops. abort
[00:13] <bekks> Fake raid?
[00:13] <Volund> http://skrypuch.com/raid/ just found this
[00:14] <bekks> Volund: Do you have a HW raid controller or a fake raid controller?
[00:15] <Volund> I believe it's 'fake raid' now that I've done some research. this is a Lenovo Thinkserver TS140. It's got two hard drive bays and the motherboard can let you setup RAID volumes by linking drives together in a menu before OS load.
[00:16] <bekks> Volund: Thinkpads do not have a HW raid controller.
[00:16] <Volund> so this is fake raid. :|
[00:16] <bekks> Volund: So your only choice is either using software raid or not. And on top of either of them LVM.
[00:17] <Bingo> on back of mah WD drive in my Desk system tha drive could be a raid, with switches on it
[00:17] <Volund> I'm going to use NO motherboard raid (fake raid) and LVM for a RAID1
[00:17] <bekks> Volund: LVM does not support RAID at all.
[00:18] <bekks> Volund: LVM supports volume mirroring, with a third device to store meta data.
[00:18] <bekks> Volund: So you actually want software raid and LVM on top.
[00:18] <AciD`> hi, would you see why I cannot `aptitude reinstall '~pstandard'` (cf http://paste.ubuntu.com/15263431)
[00:19] <bekks> AciD`: It clearly tells you why. No source found.
[00:19] <Volund> gurgle. one moment
[00:19] <bekks> Volund: Just hilight me, gotta be afk for a few.
[00:20] <bekks> Volund: No need for an unasked query, keep it in this channel.
[00:20] <AciD`> bekks > okay...but why need a source when it says clearly  "Need to get 0 B/435 kB of archives.", and those sources are well defined in the source.list : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15263455
[00:21] <Volund> I thouht that's what hilight meant *still confused*
[00:21] <bekks> AciD`: you need a source because it says: "E: Can't find a source to download version '5.1.29-7ubuntu1' of 'libdb5.1:amd64'"
[00:21] <AciD`> yes, but I have the source there, aren't I? This is confusing
[00:22] <AciD`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15263465
[00:22] <bekks> AciD`: Pastebin "apt-cache policy libdb5.1" please.
[00:22] <AciD`> bekks > http://paste.ubuntu.com/15263468
[00:22] <Volund> bekks: Okay so I'm pretty confused here. Here's my setup: Lenovo TS140 with an Intel RAID controller (integrated with motherboard. apparently 'fake raid'). I want RAID1 drive mirroring. I don't really care how so long as it's reliable and not a chug. What should I be doing?
[00:23] <bekks> AciD`: Pastebin "cat /etc/issue" and "apt-get update" please.
[00:23] <bekks> Volund: Use a software raid, and LVM on top.
[00:24] <AciD`> bekks > http://paste.ubuntu.com/15263480
[00:24] <Volund> bekks: so I /should/ be using the Intel RAID controller to link the drives. LVM is needed for...?
[00:24] <bekks> Volund: No.
[00:25] <nacc_> AciD`: uh, libdb5.1 doesn't exist in 15.10
[00:25] <bekks> Volund: Use SOFTWARE RAID and LVM on top.
[00:25] <Volund> bekks: I don't understand. isn't LVM software RAID?
[00:25] <bekks> Volund: No.
[00:25] <k1l_> Volund: no
[00:25] <Volund> then what is?
[00:25] <bekks> Volund: LVM is "Logical Volume Manager", not "Software Raid".
[00:26] <Volund> okay so I need -two- programs
[00:26] <AciD`> nacc_ > well, `aptitude reinstall '~pstandard'` seems to want to install it
[00:26] <nacc_> AciD`: the only way you'd have that version of that package is if you were on trusty?
[00:26] <bekks> Volund: Yes.
[00:26] <Volund> but should NOT be using the motherboard's raid.
[00:26] <AciD`> I was
[00:26] <bekks> Volund: Correct.
[00:26] <AciD`> and did a 14.10 to 15.10 upgrade indeed nacc_
[00:26] <bekks> AciD`: Did you upgrade 14.10 to 15.04 to 15.10?
[00:26] <nacc_> AciD`: did you go 14.04 -> 15.10? or 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10?
[00:26] <AciD`> should so I can I can safely remove that version
[00:26] <Volund> bekks: okay then. The drives are unlinked, intel RAID controller disabled. brought up the Live Ubuntu via USB, bringing up installer
[00:27] <AciD`> 14.10 -> 15.10
[00:27] <bekks> AciD`: Thats not supported at all.
[00:27] <bekks> AciD`: Reinstall.
[00:27] <nacc_> AciD`: 14.10 isn't trusty, and that is not a supported upgrade
[00:27] <AciD`> I figured
[00:27] <AciD`> I'm 'fixing' the upgrade for a day now...
[00:27] <bekks> AciD`: Reinstall instead.
[00:27] <nacc_> AciD`: you are almost certainly better off starting fresh with a reinstall
[00:28] <Volund> still not sure how to setup the RAID however. it's not an option under 'installation type'
[00:28] <nacc_> AciD`: and in the future, either stay on an LTS and go LTS -> LTS, or upgrade to every release :)
[00:28] <AciD`> I'm sooo close to fixing it :x
[00:28] <nacc_> AciD`: just making the package manager happy does not mean you've fixed it, i don't think
[00:28] <AciD`> yeah, note to self : stay on lts
[00:28]  * Volund investigates
[00:29] <nacc_> AciD`: but, to reiterate, if you were on 14.10 before -- that wasn't LTS either, 14.04 is LTS
[00:29] <nacc_> AciD`: and 16.04 will be
[00:29] <AciD`> is there a way to find you all the packages installed, that are not in the repo btw? :)
[00:29] <AciD`> nacc_ > yes, I really don't know why I upraded that box to 14.10 in the first place..
[00:31] <Bingo> < has to fix broke wubi or windowz boot mgr, before ubu studio can be installwd
[00:31] <Volund> it seems that trying to use the desktop install is my problem. server install it is
[00:31] <zykotick9> Bingo: if you are using wubi all hope is lost...
[00:31] <Bingo>  (CRIES)
[00:32] <reisio> Volund: doubt that will help
[00:32] <Bingo> I already re-install from live to try.. but it's wubi n' it should not be on the CD
[00:32] <zykotick9> Volund: you _might_ want to try mini install instead of server... ymmv...
[00:32] <AciD`> nacc_ bekks > ok, I had to manually remove the old libdb5.1 libtasn1-? and libgcrypt11
[00:32] <AciD`> it's reinstalling now
[00:33] <AciD`> (it's dirty, I know :x)
[00:33] <k1l_> Bingo: nevery ever use wubi
[00:33] <Bingo> otay.. getting dirty here, library closin'  gotta go. TY for yer help !
[00:34] <Bingo> I know not to use wubi, but it is on the install disk, and did this to me
[00:34] <Umeaboy> build-essential is the same as installing gcc-c++ right? I went to check the content of the build-essential archive, but couldn't find any files to look for in my other system.
[00:34] <Bingo> alas, i gots ta get goin.. :(
[00:34] <AciD`> any idea why I can't install whoopsie? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/15263529) Should I fix that error message by creating an empty /etc/init.d/whoopsie file? (which would be replaced by the installation anyway)
[00:35] <zykotick9> Umeaboy: "apt-cache depends build-essential" shows what will be installed... well, first level of what will be installed anyways...
[00:35] <AciD`> nevermind, /etc/init.d/whoopsie already exists...hm
[00:36] <moises> olá
[00:37] <Umeaboy> zykotick9: Is there a chan bot here to do that command if you don't have Ubuntu started?
[00:38] <leo_86> ciao a tutti raga ho appena installato xchat e uso ubuntu da poco, qualcuno mi consiglia un canale per scaricare film?
[00:38] <zykotick9> Umeaboy: i'm not sure... but on debian build-essential installs: libc6-dev gcc g++ make (make-guile) dpkg-dev
[00:38] <reisio> leo_86: #ubuntu-it
[00:39] <k1l_> Umeaboy: packages.ubuntu.com
[00:41] <AciD`> ok, I just needed to chmod +x that whoopsie file I rcreated
[00:42] <Umeaboy> zykotick9: It seems resonable to install dpkg-devel then.
[00:42] <AciD`> chroot is my friend :)
[00:42] <Umeaboy> Ooooooooooooooooo! Root beer!
[00:42] <Umeaboy> :)
[00:43] <Umeaboy> hehe
[00:48] <Strontium> Hi,  I have a wierd problem with my mouse pointer.  For some reason the Mouse Sprite is stopping moving, but where Ubuntu thinks the Mouse is does move.  So The mouse is working just the sprite stops.  Anyone seen this>
[00:50] <Volund> oh COME ON
[00:50] <Volund> my software raid setup was apparently so badass that Ubuntu Server core couldn't handle it. :|
[00:52] <Ben64> Volund: unlikely
[00:53] <DaemeonZane> I have a question
[00:53] <Volund> Ben64: well it errored and the instll stopped.
[00:53] <DaemeonZane> I'm stuck with a Win10 UEFI system and I need to install Ubuntu
[00:53] <DaemeonZane> I have no USB or DVD to do the install
[00:54] <Volund> that's... going to be a challenge
[00:54] <DaemeonZane> Used to be I could use unetbootin and easybcd to make that happen with a dedicated partition but not anymore
[00:54] <DaemeonZane> Now I want to shoot myself in the face for having this crappy pc
[00:54] <Ben64> DaemeonZane: buy a usb flash drive
[00:55] <DaemeonZane> I'm a truck driver, and I can't. Wish I could but truck stops don't sell them and I'm about three weeks away from going home
[00:55] <DaemeonZane> I'm trying to get ubuntu on this crap machine so I can try a couple potential LG G4 Sprint bootloader hacks
[00:55] <Ben64> some gas stations do have them, but why do you have to go home or buy it at a truck stop?
[00:56] <DaemeonZane> Because I have a 72 foot long truck that can't just go anywhere
[00:56] <Volund> Ben64: You can't park a truck just anywhere - yeh
[00:56] <DaemeonZane> 80,000lbs and 72 foot long. The damn thing isn't a pickup lol
[00:56] <Ben64> surely somewhere along the way you can pop over to a bestbuy/walmart/target/etc
[00:57] <Ben64> not sure why you need ubuntu for your phone thing either
[00:57] <xangua> DaemeonZane: bootloader hacks? You mean unlock the bootloader?
[00:57] <DaemeonZane> Ben64: Dude, I wish you only knew. Those types of places aren't trucker friendly unless I'm delivering a load
[00:57] <Ben64> thats why you have feet
[00:57] <DaemeonZane> Why Ubuntu? Because Linux is 100000000x better than Windoze
[00:58] <DaemeonZane> Sure. Ben64, you're officially a dumbass.
[00:58] <DaemeonZane> Next person with brains, please?
[00:58] <xangua> DaemeonZane: if you mean bootloader unlock you can pretty much do it with Windows or Linux, doesn't matter
[00:58] <Ben64> insulting people doesn't get you anywhere
[00:58] <DaemeonZane> Except that I can't get the compiler I use on Windoze.
[00:59] <DaemeonZane> Nvm. I'll just keep googling
[00:59] <xangua> Why exactly do you need a compiler? :-/
[00:59] <Ben64> what a nice person
[00:59] <Volund> AHA. SEE? HERE
[00:59] <Volund> 'partition length of 15594924032 sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum of 4294967295'
[01:00] <Volund> and this happens when I try to auto-partition the disk, hrm
[01:00] <k1l_> Volund: msdos cant handle 8tb drives. you need gpt
[01:00] <Volund> oh that's the problem, this thing is running on MBR and not GPT
[01:00] <Volund> why did the server install do that
[01:04]  * Volund gurgles, grabs a gparted livecd
[01:05] <Ben64> you can partition manually from the ubuntu cd...
[01:05] <Village> Hello Guys, when i buy dedicate server install ubuntu 14.04 whats my root pass..? I chose only created user and password, but i need root..
[01:06] <xangua> ! Root | Village
[01:06] <gtn> Village, you could try toor (root backwards)
[01:06] <k1l_> Village: ask the hoster. they maybe have some standard setups there. but in general ubuntu doesnt have a root account. it uses sudo.
[01:06] <reisio> well, doesn't have a default root password
[01:06] <Volund> Ben64: should be able to but I'm darned confused here. will try though
[01:07] <gtn> village, when you use 'sudo', it'll ask for a password. that's your user password.
[01:07] <Gustavo6046> Hi all, I'm trying to boot my very first Ubuntu VM
[01:07] <gtn> Gustavo6046, m'kay.
[01:07] <Gustavo6046> but when I insert my password, it goes back to a black window then it asks for it again
[01:08] <Village> gtn, toor not match
[01:08] <Jordan_U> Gustavo6046: What version of Ubuntu? What VM software?
[01:08]  * Volund brings up the install shell yay
[01:08] <Gustavo6046> Virtual Box, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[01:09] <gtn> Village, okay.  Use the 'sudo' command in front of whatever you want to get root to do.
[01:10] <Gustavo6046> I'm pretty much new to Ubuntu
[01:10] <Gustavo6046> I'm trying right now to start as a guest, I'll give the results
[01:10] <Village> ubottu, k1l_, thanks
[01:11] <Gustavo6046> a black screen appeared and it went back to "Start guest session" screen... strange
[01:11] <Village> gtn, need to try
[01:12] <Gustavo6046> so?
[01:12] <gtn> Village - good luck. I've got to run.
[01:12] <Volund> that's it, I'm just gonna gparted this sucker for simplicity
[01:13] <Gustavo6046> it's late, I shouldn't still be here, but I will make this work before going to sleep
[01:14] <Jordan_U> Gustavo6046: Did you have any trouble while the installer was running? Is this the first time you've tried to log in since installing?
[01:14] <Gustavo6046> The installer runned OK
[01:14] <Gustavo6046> It started some weeks ago, then I saved the state. Then I resumed it today.
[01:15] <Gustavo6046> This is the 2nd time I Try to log since installing.
[01:15] <Gustavo6046> The 1st one, there was no username.
[01:15] <the_figuring_it_> exit
[01:16] <Jordan_U> Gustavo6046: Have you rebooted since resuming the VM?
[01:16] <Gustavo6046> I rebooted after the 1st try to login Ubuntu, then username appeared
[01:17] <Gustavo6046> wow, this is so complicated
[01:18] <Gustavo6046> so?
[01:18] <Gustavo6046> I must sleep soon, I can't wait much
[01:18] <Jordan_U> Gustavo6046: Does pressing ctrl+alt+F1 get you to a text based login screen? (ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the GUI)
[01:18] <Gustavo6046> yes it does
[01:19] <Jordan_U> Gustavo6046: OK, please log in there by entering your username, pressing enter, then entering your password.
[01:19] <FunkyELF> is there a ppa for getting the latest Python3.5?
[01:19] <Gustavo6046> my username is already there
[01:19] <Gustavo6046> wait,
[01:20] <Gustavo6046> it's not
[01:20] <Jordan_U> Gustavo6046: It's probably your computer's name (hostname) that you're seeing, which probably contains your name.
[01:20] <Gustavo6046> No password is appearing
[01:20] <Ben64> FunkyELF: maybe, you can go look for it though. just keep in mind PPAs are unsupported 3rd party repositories
[01:20] <Ben64> Gustavo6046: thats normal
[01:21] <Jordan_U> Gustavo6046: That's normal. Your characters are being read, there's just no indication of them as a security measure.
[01:21] <Gustavo6046> It says "Login incorrect"
[01:21] <FunkyELF> Ben64: maybe I'll just install it myself and activate it with an environment module
[01:21]  * Volund use gparted to make devices GPT, relaunches Ubuntu Server install
[01:21] <Jordan_U> Gustavo6046: Try again.
[01:21] <Gustavo6046> I tried some times
[01:21] <damage_plan91> Any suggestions on programs to fix syslinux and bootsect problems for usb flash drives?
[01:21] <Gustavo6046> I don't really remember the username I put in the installer
[01:21] <Gustavo6046> but I know my password, it's the universal password I use everywhere
[01:21] <Jordan_U> damage_plan91: You'll need to give more details about what exactly the problem is.
[01:22] <Jordan_U> Gustavo6046: If you go back to the GUI login screen, ctrl+alt+F7, it should list your username.
[01:22] <Gustavo6046> ok
[01:22] <Gustavo6046> I put the correct username now
[01:23] <Gustavo6046> but the universal password isn't working
[01:23] <Gustavo6046> I guess I put another password in the installer
[01:23] <Gustavo6046> but I Don't remember which
[01:23] <damage_plan91> Trying to make live usb via UUI in windows, I keep getting an error about the usb not being bootable.
[01:24] <Jordan_U> damage_plan91: Why not just create the USB in Ubuntu?
[01:24] <Jordan_U> damage_plan91: Or were you asking about Windows programs originally?
[01:24] <AciD`> so...by default wine is not installable on ubuntu ?!
[01:25] <Ben64> AciD`: yes it is
[01:25] <damage_plan91> Because that's where the problem started using unetboot. I would rather use ubuntu, im just clueless as to what to use.
[01:25] <Gustavo6046> I'm so sleepy, but I need urgently to solve this
[01:25] <Jordan_U> AciD`: Not installed by default, but definitely installable.
[01:25] <AciD`> I must have a problem somewhere then because I get this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15263891
[01:25] <Ben64> AciD`: agi wine?
[01:25] <AciD`> AND I tried to install it on a 15.10 liveusb, got the same problem..
[01:26] <AciD`> ah yes: agi is my alias for apt-get install
[01:26] <AciD`> :x
[01:26] <Gustavo6046> hm...
[01:27] <Ben64> AciD`: pastebin 'apt-cache policy wine wine1.6 wine1.6-amd64 wine-gecko2.21 wine-mono0.0.8'
[01:27] <Jordan_U> Gustavo6046: We can walk you through resetting your password if you'd like.
[01:27] <Gustavo6046> no, I'll do it tomorrow, thanks
[01:27] <AciD`> Ben64 > http://paste.ubuntu.com/15263918
[01:28] <Gustavo6046> it's clear it can't be done today
[01:28] <Gustavo6046> too late
[01:28] <Gustavo6046> good night
[01:28] <AciD`> looks like I have multiple candidates
[01:28] <Ben64> AciD`: you need to enable multiverse repository
[01:28] <Finetundra> Evening folks, is there a way to prevent screen timeout while there's an active stream(youtube, skype video, etc)
[01:28] <AciD`> oh
[01:28] <Bray90820> EriC^^: It's finally done
[01:29] <xangua> Finetundra: https://launchpad.net/caffeine
[01:30] <AciD`> Ben64 > I guess I add 'multiverse' for each line in the default source.list file? (ie. wily wili-security and wily-updates repo)
[01:31] <Ben64> AciD`: you should be able to add it from the ubuntu software center
[01:31] <Ben64> just a checkbox
[01:31] <AciD`> I can't, i'm on a tty only
[01:31] <damage_plan91> Ok, will ask at another time.
[01:31] <Ben64> then how do you expect to run wine
[01:31] <AciD`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15263944
[01:32] <AciD`> I don't expect to run it now, just install it
[01:32] <Pratik> hi all
[01:33] <Ben64> AciD`: you run apt-get update?
[01:34] <AciD`> yes I did
[01:34] <Ben64> apt-get install wine1.6
[01:34] <mav3rick> guys can i Install & run #ubuntu_touch on #samsungTab3 ?
[01:34] <Pratik> I am trying to "dpkg -i libopenvg1-mesa_10.1.0-4ubuntu5_amd64.deb"
[01:35] <AciD`> Ben64 > http://paste.ubuntu.com/15263964
[01:35] <Pratik> I am getting these errors
[01:35] <Pratik> dpkg: regarding libopenvg1-mesa_10.1.0-4ubuntu5_amd64.deb containing libopenvg1-mesa:amd64:  xserver-xorg-lts-vivid conflicts with libopenvg1-mesa (>= 0~)   libopenvg1-mesa:amd64 (version 10.1.0-4ubuntu5) is to be installed.  dpkg: error processing archive libopenvg1-mesa_10.1.0-4ubuntu5_amd64.deb (--install):  conflicting packages - not installing libopenvg1-mesa:amd64 Errors were encountered while processing:  libopenvg1-mesa_10.1.0-4
[01:35] <Ben64> Pratik: why are you trying to install the deb manually? use apt-get normally
[01:36] <Ben64> apt-get install wine1.6-i386
[01:36] <Ben64> AciD`: ^
[01:36] <Pratik> I amtrying to install dependencies for qtbase5
[01:37] <profall> What is a good bit torrent client for Ubuntu 14.04?
[01:37] <Volund> uuuuuuugh
[01:37] <Volund> Trying to get Software Raid 1 running is a PITA because I don't understand what it's trying to do.
[01:37] <Pratik> so for that I had to install "libopenvg1-mesa"
[01:37] <Volund> .... oh I think I get it. one moment
[01:37] <Ben64> Pratik: why? that is in the repository
[01:37] <xangua> profall: Ubuntu comes with transmission
[01:38] <xangua> ! Torrent
[01:38] <AciD`> Ben64 > I'm following the trail of uninstallabe package. after a few jumps, I'm currently seeing that apt does not want to install libllvm3.6v5:i386...
[01:38] <Ben64> AciD`: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[01:38] <Pratik> Ben64: Sorry I am confused... I am using "https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Building" link
[01:38] <Ben64> Pratik: why!
[01:39] <Pratik> to compile KDevelop5
[01:39] <Ben64> why!!
[01:39] <AciD`> Ben64 > it returns i386
[01:39] <Pratik> Contributing to KDevelop open source project
[01:40] <Ben64> AciD`: weird. thought maybe you were missing multiarch but you got it... why doesn't it want to install libllvm3.6v5:i386
[01:40] <Pratik> Ben64: So I am trying to compile it
[01:40] <Ben64> Pratik: you're not going to have a good time with that
[01:41] <AciD`> well, still a few jumps after this one, I stumbled against a 'big' dependencies problem for libbsd0:i386
[01:41] <Volund> OKAY Now I'm even more confused. gonna try alternate method
[01:42] <Ben64> AciD`: you might have better luck using the official winehq repository
[01:42] <Pratik> Ben64: ok, where do I start from then?
[01:42] <AciD`> well
[01:42] <Pratik> Its been a month I am trying this
[01:42] <Ben64> Pratik: not sure if ubuntu is right for you if you want to compile all of QT
[01:43] <Pratik> ok
[01:43] <Volund> Ben64: Okay I'm pretty darned confused. SO I setup Software RAID1 with two disks linked, then setup LVM... but couldn't install because there was no root...
[01:43] <Volund> >:|
[01:43] <Volund> this is too confusing
[01:44] <Ben64> skip raid
[01:44] <AciD`> that lib had a lot of qt5 dependencies, each one depending on libqt5gui5 (which was installed with a version higher than needed, so all good), but also on libqt5gui5-gles, which need to remove quite a few apps to get installed..
[01:44] <AciD`> not cool!
[01:45] <Ben64> AciD`: the wine from winehq has a lot less dependencies
[01:45] <AciD`> well, I'm trying to install playonlinux from the official ubuntu repo so
[01:45] <AciD`> I'd prefer to stay as little tainted as I can :)
[01:47] <Ben64> AciD`: playonlinux is not needed. having the latest wine is such a big difference since the development moves fairly quickly over there
[01:47] <AciD`> yes, but the management of prefix is a pita with bar wine, isn't?
[01:47] <AciD`> *bare
[01:48] <Ben64> AciD`: no
[01:49] <Volund> Ben64: All I want is reundant data storage. I have these two 8tb drives, they're the only drives that I can fit in this machine. :/
[01:49] <AciD`> ok I'm confused, libbsd0 needs a libqt5gui5 >=5.4.1, but I have 5.4.2! http://paste.ubuntu.com/15264046
[01:49] <Volund> Ben64: what are my options?
[01:51] <Ben64> Volund: you could use lvm, you could use the 2nd drive as a backup
[01:51] <Volund> That's acceptable.
[01:51] <Volund> So long as the data can be accessed if the first drive dies completely.
[01:52] <AciD`> damn, steam depends also on libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 and libgl1-mesa-glx:i386, both of which I found in the dependency problem of wine
[01:52] <Ben64> in my experience, raid ends up just being a pain
[01:52] <AciD`> >_<
[01:52] <Ben64> AciD`: i'm telling you man, winehq repository will solve all your problems
[01:53] <AciD`> perhaps, but what about steam then!
[01:54] <Ben64> steam will still work
[01:55] <AciD`> what's the usual way to install steam btw, is there a partner repo and should you use the one provided by valve (if any)?
[01:55] <Volund> Ben64: So should I just install LVM on /dev/sda and install Ubuntu 'normally' and worry about extending it with a backup later?
[01:56] <AciD`> (ie. http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/)
[01:56] <Volund> got identical drives on /dev/sda and sdb
[01:56] <Ben64> AciD`: i think either way you install steam, you end up getting steam's repo installed
[01:56] <Ben64> Volund: yeah you should be able to add the drive to lvm later and have it mirror
[01:59]  * Volund installs the Desktop version in that case because yay unity
[02:01] <Volund> alrighty woooooooo installing FINALLY
[02:03] <Volund> Ben64: So I'm hoping to use this machine for a combination of NAS, LAMP (home experimenting stuff, not even close to anything that matters), and maybe the odd thing like running a Starbound server and the like off of it. the NAS part being why I want some kind of redundancy JUST IN CASE
[02:08] <Suici> What do you think of Ubuntu?
[02:09] <Suici> Hi guys
[02:10] <Suici> Hi
[02:10] <Volund> Suici: one of the most straightforwardly approachable alternate OSes to Windows and pretty solidly usable for anything Linux I need.
[02:10] <Volund> Not sure waht else I can say. I love open source but am still kinda a Linux n00b
[02:10] <Suici> I really like Linux
[02:11] <Suici> Hi Volume can you learn some bash
[02:11] <Suici> Ubuntu and it's flavors are the best OS, no more viruses
[02:12] <AciD`> ok, I'm a bit puzzled. Would you see why apt complains about those dependencies ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15264192
[02:12] <Suici> Have you fiddled with graphics drivers
[02:13] <Bray90820> EriC^^: You around
[02:13]  * Volund gets new install booted
[02:14] <Volund> I'm gonna be glad to just slap webmin on this thing and.... come on, don't hit me with the empty screen - OH THERE IT GOES
[02:14] <AciD`> Suici > I've recently upgraded my distro
[02:14] <Ben64> AciD`: guessing - i'd say the 32bit version conflicts with the 64bit
[02:14] <Ben64> !webmin | Volund
[02:14] <Volund> D:
[02:14] <Volund> darnit all.
[02:14] <Suici> Who typed that stuff
[02:15] <AciD`> what stuff, the cmdlines?
[02:15] <AciD`> me
[02:15] <Suici> Some webmin is no longer supported thingy
[02:15] <propman> !ubottu
[02:16] <Volund> Ben64: got any alternatives for webmin?
[02:17] <Suici> Acid are you trying to install steam?
[02:18] <AciD`> yes I am
[02:18] <Suici> Try the steam ppa
[02:19] <AciD`> Suici > this one ? http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/
[02:19] <AciD`> same problem arise
[02:20] <Suici> Tthe one on lauchpad
[02:24] <AciD`> link please, I cannot find it :x
[02:26] <Suici> Hi acid here is the linkhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/steam
[02:26] <Ben64> Volund: what are you wanting webmin for
[02:26] <\ni> AciD`, Downloading the binary from steam web site worked for me
[02:27] <AciD`> thanks
[02:29] <Volund> Ben64: with webmin I didn't need to keep a thousand little details of how to do things like setting up apache virtual hosts or quickly seeing system specs, etc. and doing it without having to be at the machine. As I slowly improve my terminal-fu though I'm getting somewhat less dependent on it, but the terminal stuff still isn't quite second nature when I need it to be.
[02:31]  * Ben64 tries to think of the name
[02:31] <Ben64> !zentyal
[02:31] <Ben64> :D
[02:32]  * Volund investigates!
[02:32] <Ben64> but really, vhosts and stuff isn't that hard
[02:35] <Volund> it'd probably help if I could find a good 'learning your way around linux' that grooved with my learning style. I'm picking stuff up as I go along though.
[02:35]  * Volund stares. this thing is taking an awful long time to install packages.
[02:36] <Bashing-om> Volund: Seen http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty ?
[02:36] <Volund> ooooh
[02:37] <Bashing-om> Volund: I thoght of it as a great foundation and learning source .
[02:37] <Volund> THANK YOU
[02:40] <Volund> gaaaaah what is going on the system's slowed to a crawl here
[02:41] <eggslaven> brb overwriting ubuntu with w7
[02:41] <Bashing-om> Volund: Uh huh ... same guide has : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty_Servers .
[02:41] <sprech> w7?
[02:42]  * Volund reboots the ubuntu box
[02:44] <Volund> augh this is unbearable. :|
[02:47] <goddard> anyone know how i can install the latest arduino software?  is there a ppa or something?
[02:47] <mcc> Hello, I am having a series of very weird problems that appear to come  back to the error message "Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory" … i get this error whenever i do anything with upstart at all
[02:48] <mcc> my /dev devices like /dev/null and /dev/random are not getting set up correctly, every restart /dev/null /dev/random /dev/urandom get incorrect permissions. someone said this could happen if udevtrigger is not running. but i can't probe udevtrigger because upstart fails with the system_bus_socket complaint
[02:49] <mcc> if you google for this error you can find many epople having the same problem and it consistently appears to be a byproduct of upgrading to ubutu 14.04 from earlier ubuntus but nobody seems to have a n explanation or a fix
[02:49] <Hulio> hi guys
[02:49] <Hulio> anyone here is a programmer?
[02:51] <somsip> Hulio: it's a support channel. You know that. You spent a lot of time here over the last few days...
[02:52] <Ben64> goddard: sudo apt-get install arduino
[02:52] <boinamib> hello , i would like to Change path of VM configuration files for kvm and put its in nfs . an idea to do that?
[02:52] <salmm> i programmed a vcr once!!
[02:52] <goddard> Ben64: that is too old
[02:53] <Ben64> goddard: well you're free to do whatever you want, but that one is the only one supported here
[02:53] <goddard> nobody knows a ppa?
[02:53] <somsip> !ppa | goddard (search link here)
[02:54] <Volund> this is kinda off-topic but regarding the earlier RAID debate (software vs fake vs hardware), I'm gonna be sticking two SSDs in my gaming rig in a few days. Was planning to raid0 them for super-duper performance. (and keeping a backup of important things stored on this NAS box.) Original plan was using the motherboard's RAID (Fake raid.) Now I'm not sure what a good option is. Fake raid seems to be hated.
[02:55] <monkey_> Hi all, trying to put Ubuntu onto a usb stick with the startup creator, but its messed up the partitions on it, so there is one 3mb partition and the 7.9GB unusable
[02:56] <monkey_> How can i fix that?
[02:56] <Ben64> Volund: don't raid0 ssd
[02:56] <Ben64> also, don't raid0
[02:57] <Volund> Sigh. I looked up things that said SSDs were awesome for it. -_-
[02:57] <Ben64> raid0 = one drive dies, you lose everything
[02:58] <Volund> yeah I'm aware. It was going to hold Steam Library and other replaceable things
[02:58] <Volund> with everything important stored on the NAS
[02:59] <Ben64> and from what i understand, trim doesn't function properly if you have ssd's raided
[02:59] <Volund> trim?
[02:59] <Volund> *checks*
[03:00] <Ben64> and ssd is fast enough that you don't need to increase performance any more, and if they're on the same controller it might not increase anyway
[03:00] <Volund> bleh. fair enough then. :o 2tb of non-raid storage it is.
[03:01] <Ben64> like my computer boots in about 20 seconds, i'm fine with that
[03:01] <wafflejock> yeah second Ben64 have heard doing anything beyond SSDs doesn't really help game loading time anyways since there are other bottlenecks
[03:09] <DaemeonZane> Just came in to apologize for being an ass earlier
[03:10] <DaemeonZane> I figured out how to boot the install from a partition, now I just have to get this darn pc to see the Ubuntu install properly.
[03:10] <DaemeonZane> Damn Microsoft to the 7th level of whatever netherworld you believe in
[03:11] <DaemeonZane> Ben65: Sorry for being an ass dude. lol
[03:11] <DaemeonZane> I lacked both coffee and nicotene
[03:13] <reisio> heh
[03:15] <anarchocommunism> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/332007/45688811/
[03:15] <anarchocommunism> help please
[03:15] <anarchocommunism> I'm trying to start idle
[03:23] <phiona> im trying to remove clipgrab and its ppa. should i remove it first and then run ppa-purge or will running ppa-purge remove it already?
[03:23] <somsip> !ppa-purge | phiona (I think this gives instructions)
[03:26] <tlwh520> hi! i'm studying to install kerberos for hadoop at ubuntu. have anyone know how to do that?
[03:27] <phiona> somsip: so im uninstalling first then run ppa-purge later.. is this ok?
[03:27] <somsip> phiona: the instructions are in the link. Never done it myself...
[03:29] <phiona> who has used ppa-purge here?
[03:30] <Ben64> you can do it either way
[03:31] <Skandi> hello. my laptop is connected to a network, but it cant connect to anything. I've looked around on the internet for possible solutions but nothing has worked. toshiba satellite, realtek rtl8188ee, and ubuntu 14.04.
[03:31] <Volund> O_o
[03:31] <Volund> something is weird with this Linux server... seriously weird
[03:32] <Volund> I'm getting ping response times anywhere from 2ms to 900ms.....
[03:34] <Volund> screw it, gonna try the other NIC
[03:38] <Volund> that could explain it...
[03:38]  * Volund goes to check something
[03:42] <Volund> RRRRRGh
[03:42] <Volund> there is a 192.168.1.3 on this network and I don't know where it is
[03:42] <gr33nbits> hello
[03:42] <gr33nbits> :P
[03:42] <reisio> 'lo
[03:44] <rickster__> grub
[03:44] <reisio> twss
[03:45] <ramcha> how do i set up a new channel?
[03:45] <somsip> ramcha: /join #mynewchannel
[03:45] <ramcha> it creates one if isnt there already?
[03:45] <mcc> ramcha: yes
[03:45] <somsip> ramcha: yes
[03:45] <ramcha> any other configuration needed to get stuff up and running?
[03:46] <somsip> ramcha: join #freenode and ask for advice about IRC there. This is for ubuntu support
[03:46] <reisio> gotta talk to #freenode if you want to properly "own" it, instaed of sitting in it 24/7
[03:46] <ramcha> um sorry
[03:47]  * Volund locates the rogue device
[03:47] <Volund> can an IP address conflict cause a Ubuntu to thoroughly chug and behave wonkily?
[03:47] <jr> hola
[03:48] <Volund> heya
[03:48] <reisio> Volund: nope
[04:01] <freshquiz> does anyone know where I can find the source for the iptables "libip4tc.so" shared lib?
[04:01] <AciD`> deb-src ?
[04:02] <somsip> !source | freshquiz
[04:02] <freshquiz> yep, I got the source for iptables
[04:02] <freshquiz> but in that tree, there is this shared lib (which I mentioned) and it contains a function def I need to see
[04:02] <somsip> !find libip4tc
[04:02] <somsip> freshquiz: try the -dev
[04:03] <freshquiz> somsip: seems to be the same as without -dev
[04:04] <somsip> freshquiz: This any good then, but getting wayyy offtopic now https://github.com/qris/iptables/blob/master/libiptc/libip4tc.c
[04:04] <freshquiz> i've googled for that lib and I can't find the source anywhere
[04:05] <freshquiz> somsip: I have that file, it's part of the apt-get source
[04:05] <freshquiz> I'm looking for the implementation of the "iptc_commit()" function, which that file you linked does not contain
[04:06] <freshquiz> it's in libip4tc.so, but I can't find the source for that
[04:06] <somsip> freshquiz: links here are usually reliable http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/7.4/postlfs/iptables.html
[04:08] <freshquiz> somsip: no dice, same as from apt-get source
[04:09] <Volund> This system is going so oddly SLOW... I'm not sure what the issue is yet. It might simply be that the drives I stuck in it are indeed THAT slow, but I find this hard to believe. :/
[04:09] <somsip> freshquiz: looked hopeful. Anyway, still OT so I'm out
[04:09] <somsip> Volund: suspend belief and apply the scientific method
[04:12] <Volund> right now I'm waiting for the install to complete, will run some tests afterwards.
[04:13]  * Volund has run the Ubuntu install process more times today than he has in the rest of the last year
[04:23]  * Volund runs a benchmarking on the disks
[04:23] <somsip> Volund: we don't need a blow by blow account...
[04:32] <Volund> What's frustrating the heck out of me is that when I turn on LVM the software updater seems to hang for long periods of time on random packages that should be trivial. @_@
[04:33] <Volund> .... and now the entire thing's frozen up, what gives
[04:40] <somsip> Volund: have you eliminated hardware issues?
[04:41] <windcatcher> this maybe kinda oldschool... but is there packages out there where I can create my own personal newsgroup server without having to connect to alt.config or any of their bullshit?
[04:41] <somsip> !language | windcatcher
[04:41] <windcatcher> free from all the pay per use backbones
[04:42] <Volund> somsip: I'm working on that right now. trying to run various tests and etc to see where the issue lies
[04:42] <somsip> !info nntpd | windcatcher
[04:42] <somsip> !info leafnode | windcatcher
[04:42] <somsip> windcatcher: might be worth looking into ^^
[04:44] <Volund> somsip: my main frustration here is, I know it shouldn't be that slow. I did stick a ludicrous 8tb drive in there. And I know it won't be too fast. But it shouldn't -randomly hang- and etc. It should behave -consistently- and something isn't. All I have found is that using LVM -might- make it worse. Still gotta test things
[04:44] <windcatcher> ty
[04:44] <somsip> Volund: there are plenty of people on here who have LVM experience. I'm not one of them.
[04:47]  * Volund updates BIOS first thing.
[04:50] <windcatcher> what are opinions on INN news server
[04:59] <dim_> oii
[05:02] <sneak> Hey
[05:02] <Guest48527> Can anybody here tell me what is "Conceptual Summary" in context of NLP?
[05:02] <Guest48527> Is it same as automatic summarisation?
[05:14] <ramcha> is freenode website down?
[05:24] <nareshnk> Hi
[05:24] <nareshnk> Wht should be the permission for var/www on local host ?
[05:24] <nareshnk> i am getting 404 error while running project on localhost
[05:25] <Jordan_U> nareshnk: Did you move your files to /var/www/html/ ?
[05:26] <Volund> Hrrrrrrrrrrrrm. 4.6MB\sec for a transfer from RAM to an internal HDD is.... pretty..... awful
[05:26] <Volund> I'm not wrong in thinking something's BAD there, I'm sure of it
[05:29] <Jordan_U> Volund: How are you transferring from RAM to your internal HDD?
[05:30] <Volund> Jordan_U: Linux liveCD. so it probably isn't RAM but a flash drive, I guess. STILL shouldn't be down to 5MB\sec when it's USB2.0
[05:30] <Volund> LiveUSB, er.
[05:30] <nareshnk> Jordan_U, yes all the projects in HTML folder
[05:30] <Volund> I'm gonna try a ew tricks.
[05:30] <Jordan_U> Volund: How are your transferring, and what are you transferring?
[05:35] <Volund> okay that's much better.
[05:36] <Volund> Jordan_U: Well for this second test, I used dd to generate a 5gigabyte zero-filled file and just transferred it from the LiveUSB home to one of the drives in an ext4 partition. Then I transferred it from there to the other. I'm getting 200MB\sec, roughly, using nautilus file manager...
[05:36] <Volund> gonna see what happens if I use cp this time
[05:39] <Jordan_U> Volund: cp might do better due to not being limited to fixed size (by default small) blocks.
[05:39] <Volund> honestly I think it took twice as long, somehow. @_@ copying from one drive to the other
[05:45] <android> kodi
[05:48] <Volund> Jordan_U: What the heck? These are identical drives, one seems to be going twice as fast as the other?!
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Volund: I don't think your testing procedures are valid.
[05:49] <Volund> Jordan_U: I'm currently using the Benchmark feature of Ubuntu's 'Disks' program
[05:50] <MichaelTiebesl> hi there, is this the channel for questions about 16.04?
[05:51] <Volund> There's a 16.04 already?!
[05:51] <jushur> MichaelTiebesl: #ubuntu+1
[05:51] <MichaelTiebesl> thanks
[05:52]  * Volund goes to physically swap /dev/sda and sdb, will then try tests again. see if the results move respectively
[05:59] <MuNcH_Marcel> Can someone please explain to me why WoW isn't retaining simple settings on my Ubuntu?
[06:00] <MuNcH_Marcel> I was told how wonderful Linux was for gaming, but for some reason a "revolutionary" OS will not allow a decade old game play with hardware that can run any current game on Windows perfectly fine
[06:03] <hateball> !wine | MuNcH_Marcel
[06:04] <MuNcH_Marcel> I'm doing research on a Config file has permission issues where I can clearly see that I am the owner of the file, but for some reason the settings still reset every single time I start the game
[06:05] <MuNcH_Marcel> ubottu: I already have checked the settings on that site, nothing about this issue. Not even mentioned on the list of bugs
[06:05] <Jordan_U> MuNcH_Marcel: Anyone that told you that Linux is currently a panacea for gaming was being zealous. You can game on linux, and Steam Machines + Vulkan are coming, but it's not there yet and right now if your only objective is to have the best gaming experience, you should use Windows.
[06:06] <salmm> MuNcH_Marcel: are you doing it as an admin/sudo. some make changes you will need a su at the time
[06:06] <hateball> And this is not even a native game, which is why you could try for support in #winehq
[06:06] <salmm> of the change
[06:06] <Jordan_U> MuNcH_Marcel: That message from ubottu also told you that #winehq is the place to ask about app compatability with wine.
[06:06] <MuNcH_Marcel> Jordan_u: Good to know
[06:07] <lintguy> Hello
[06:07] <lintguy> klogd have started eating 100% CPU on two different machines, anyone know what to do?
[06:09] <MuNcH_Marcel> salmm: Noting to do a sudo
[06:10] <MuNcH_Marcel> Only advice was deleting the config file and forcing the game to make a new one, which didn't work
[06:10] <Volund> Jordan_U: So I'm getting between 100MB\sec to 200MB\sec for various read and write tasks after I -physically swapped each drive for the other-. Go figure.
[06:10] <steakbbq> Hi GUYS! I'm brand new to ubuntu and loving it so far!
[06:11] <Volund> steakbbq: Welcome to FREEDOM.
[06:11] <steakbbq> One question though, I like to use my mouse button to talk in mangler, but it makes web pages go back and such, how can I disable the back and forward on mouse 4 and 5
[06:11] <salmm> MuNcH_Marcel: Not sure what "Noting to to a sudo" means. are you saying that it has nothing to do with sudo?
[06:12] <MuNcH_Marcel> Nothing*
[06:12] <MuNcH_Marcel> To do a sudo command for
[06:13] <salmm> MuNcH_Marcel: where you able to delete the file?
[06:13] <MuNcH_Marcel> salmm: Yes
[06:14] <jushur> dont ever sudo a wine application, if you do you can aswell run windows..
[06:14] <salmm> MuNcH_Marcel: ok, early post stated you had permission denied.
[06:14] <MuNcH_Marcel> And looking at the file, looks like it generated everything it needed. Before it was just empty
[06:15] <MuNcH_Marcel> salmm: Incorrect, the purpose was a potential permission issue being the reason why the settings aren't sticking, as to why the settings reset
[06:15] <steakbbq> Hi Guys
[06:15] <steakbbq> How to I make it so that my extra mouse buttons don't mean back and forward
[06:16] <Jordan_U> Volund: I still doubt that your testing is valid.
[06:18] <xrfang> hello, anyone familiar with squashfs? I need to append files to an existing sqfs file, e.g. adding dir/file2, when the sqfs already has dir/file1, I hope to get file1, file2 under dir, but mksquashfs will make a new dir_0, and generate dir_0/file2, how to prevent this?
[06:19] <Volund> Jordan_U: Can't really dispute that, but don't know much better options
[06:19] <jushur> Volund: what are you testing for?
[06:22] <Volund> jushur: Just today I put two 8tb HDDs (seagate archives) in my Linux box to replace its two 1tb stock drives. I -want- to set them up in some kind of mirrored arrangement, but every attempt to do so has been a nightmare. Both a plain Ubuntu Desktop AND an Ubuntu Desktop +LVM install have gone completely awry with the machine chugging, freezing, and behaving erratically after logging in the first time. I've been testing the
[06:22] <Volund> drives to ensure that their I/O is stable. Had some really weird results earlier with one drive performing at half the other's speed using Ubuntu's benchmarking.... issue happened repeatedly. STANGELY, swapping the drives physically for each other has cleared that up and they're acting normal now? I think these rates are normal? Currently attempting a 'normal' install again to see if it comes out okay. If so I'll attempt an LVM
[06:22] <Volund> install again
[06:23] <jushur> Volund: your bios is verified to handle those drives correctly?
[06:27] <jushur> Volund: I would reckommend running the old 1tb drives as / /boot /home and so on, and put zfs on the 8TB drives. for data.
[06:30] <Volund> jushur: Not sure how I'd check regarding the BIOS. and i wish I could, but... well. there's only two bays in the darn machine. Though I'm pondering slipping an SSD in there and using it for root, boot, etc
[06:30] <Volund> *goes to investigate BIOS*
[06:30] <jushur> Volund: ssd would be very nice for that.
[06:30] <hateball> I don't understand why you would put /home on the slowest drives, seeing as that's the data you use the most as an average user
[06:30] <Volund> jushur: This is a Lenovo TS140 (Thinkserver) and it's running in UEFI. If it can't handle an 8TB drive I'll be startled
[06:30] <jushur> Volund: you need to check the motherboard manufacturer site.
[06:31] <jushur> hateball: slower? the 1TB versus 8TB drives has no major difference in speed?
[06:32] <Volund> jushur: Haven't measured that. Will ive it a try though soon if my attempts turn up nowhere
[06:33] <hateball> jushur: Oh, I just assumed newer=faster :)
[06:33] <jushur> Volund: well read trough the bios/firmware update version logs on the site. may be some adjustments.
[06:33] <hateball> jushur: And in any case I see the advise being passed around, put system files on SSD, user data on HDD etc -_-
[06:33] <jushur> hateball: on my systems new/bigger drives usually means slower. more users on them basicly.
[06:34] <jushur> hateball: i advice ppl to run clean ZFS on drives bigger then 4TB. especially when its servers and using 2x drives in a mirror.
[06:35] <hateball> jushur: Sure
[06:35] <Volund> huuuuuuuuh.
[06:35] <Volund> well that's... interesting. the page here lists it as suporting up to 4tb drives. http://shop.lenovo.com/ISS_Static/WW/wci3/us/en/common/techspecs/ww_ww_ds_thinkserver%20ts140.pdf
[06:36] <lintguy> What syslog does ubuntu or should ubuntu use?
[06:36] <jushur> Volund: make sure you use proper sector size for FS on the new drives.
[06:36] <Volund> I am not sure if that is what it -supports- or what they -sell- however
[06:37] <jushur> Volund: in my experience, most issues with sata drives is relaetd to bad cables.
[06:41] <Volund> jushur: promising results so far with the new install. Boot to desktop seems drastically improved over earlier installs, but not sure yet
[06:43] <jushur> Volund: maybe its like so that one of the cables where slightly lose/bad connected. cant imagine just swaping drives would be an solution otherwise.
[06:43] <Volund> jushur: So if the motherboard didn't support a drive, wouldn't it error at accessing sectors above a certain limit or something? because I had that happen to me ages ago when the terabyte range was new. I couldn't create partitions bigger than 1tb on my new drives until I did a BIOS update. or maybe it was drivers update. (was in Windows.)
[06:43] <Volund> jushur: possibly.
[06:44] <jushur> Volund: yes, that would be the expected type of error.
[06:46] <Volund> jushur: So far so good, still watching Software Updater. Gonna see if it still trips and hangs on a few of them.
[06:46] <Volund> Gonna laugh if all this time it was just badly set cables
[06:46] <Volund> I've -never- encountered a scenario where a cable could be connected to a point where it was -usable- but -not working solidly-
[06:47] <Volund> Either it's connected and working or it's loose and not detected
[06:47] <jushur> Volund: I assembly computers for work/customers. and lets jsut say its sad to se how many times there is issues with cables.
[06:47] <jushur> Volund: have you bent your sata cables in any way?
[06:48] <Volund> aha. see, it's back to that weird hanging. it's taking ages to install libssl
[06:48] <Volund> that library should be TRIVIAL.
[06:49] <Volund> Jushur: don't think so? But For the heck of it, I'm sick of this. gonna try different cables.
[06:49]  * Volund has lots of SATA cables lying around
[06:49] <jushur> Volund: try with only one drive at a time to.
[06:51] <Kingchocomelch> having a serious problem with github not displaying certain text fonts
[06:52] <Kingchocomelch> I've googled all over and tried all terminal commands and updates and its not working
[06:52] <jushur> Volund: paranoia talking here now, there has been a bit of state hacking going on lately. attacking ssl connections. mitm attacks. and they hid behind the ddos this last weekend. I caught it as I have access to a few sattelites that are not state owned/controlled.
[06:54] <anuj> Hey I have changed my JAVA_HOME in ~/.profile and with echo $JAVA_HOME its giving desired output but still my app says JAVA_HOME is set to an invalid directory: /usr/lib/jvm/default-java
[06:54] <anuj> echo $JAVA_HOME
[06:54] <jushur> Volund: so maybe its not your hardware at all that is at fault.
[06:54] <anuj> "/usr/bin/java
[06:54] <anuj> "
[06:55] <jushur> anuj: restart the application?
[06:56] <anuj> jushur, have restarted the system
[06:56] <CLAY> hello all
[06:56] <jushur> anuj: you launch it from terminal?
[06:56] <Volund> jushur: O_o
[06:56] <CLAY> what?
[06:56] <jushur> !ask | CLAY
[06:57] <CLAY> sorry man i'm not speak eng)
[06:57] <jushur> Volund: what mirror you use? (country)
[06:57] <Volund> jushur: USA
[06:57] <jushur> CLAY: what language is your main?
[06:57] <CLAY> Russian!
[06:58] <jushur> !channels
[06:58] <CLAY> how are you?
[06:58] <Volund> jushur: Also, the issue is still that it boils down to hard drive access. stuff -downloaded- fine. @_@
[06:59] <anuj> jushur, its gradle actually
[06:59] <anuj> jushur, yeah from terminal
[06:59] <jushur> CLAY: #ubuntu-ru may be of interrest for you then, id asume =)
[06:59] <itsgokul> why does notify-send doesnot appear
[07:00] <Volund> oh that's cute, the USB headers on the thinkserver's motherboard uses a SATA style connector.
[07:01] <Volund> something very LIKE sata.
[07:12] <NetworkingPro> Anyone know if you can schedule a cronjob to only run during certain hours of the day?
[07:12] <NetworkingPro> I know you can do intervals
[07:12] <moonkyang> test
[07:12] <NetworkingPro> but im talking about between 10 pm and 4 am for example?
[07:12] <EriC^^> NetworkingPro: yeah
[07:13] <EriC^^> 0 22 * * *
[07:13] <EriC^^> is 10pm
[07:13] <sidoti> hi
[07:14] <sidoti> brazil
[07:17] <hateball> NetworkingPro: well you could put a sanity check in the script your're running, using return data from $(date whatever)
[07:20]  * Volund reads up on ZFS. this looks pretty honking cool.
[07:37] <spexi> Hi! Is there a command to show the welcome message again on command line? That message, which is shown when logging in, displays some system information etc. Or is the way to see it again to login again?
[07:37] <xangua> spexi: hold the super/Windows key
[07:39] <dhanraj> does anyone know any documentation on libsolv? how it works and how can i use it?
[07:39] <spexi> xangua: I mean the message, when I'm loggin in to server for example with PuTTY
[07:40] <Volund> ONE LAST TIME for tonight.... if this flops I'm going to be out of ideas
[07:42] <spexi> So, is there a command to print this out after login: http://i.stack.imgur.com/Xbu4L.png
[07:43] <EriC^^> spexi: cat /var/run/motd.dynamic
[07:43] <Ben64> spexi: uh, you need to upgrade
[07:44] <intuxicated> Hi, How i can add this repository ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang
[07:44] <spexi> Ben64: luckily that is only a screenshot from google image search :D
[07:45] <spexi> running 14.04
[07:45] <Ben64> thats good
[07:45] <spexi> and thanks EriC^^ :)
[07:45] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:46] <dhanraj> does anyone know any documentation on libsolv? how it works and how can i use it?
[07:47] <jushur> dhanraj: sudo apt-get install libsolv-doc
[07:48] <Volund> Argh this problem is STILL happening. It's hanging on unpacking perl. *flails hands*
[07:48]  * Volund has been hacking at this all day. sobs
[07:48] <Ben64> Volund: maybe you got a bad image
[07:48] <Loshki> dhanraj: this libsolv? https://github.com/openSUSE/libsolv
[07:48] <Volund> you mean the ISO, Ben64?
[07:48] <jushur> Volund: actually Ben64 may be on the correct path there. do a proper test of the iso/img
[07:49] <dhanraj> i downloaded from here and also compiled it but now the big question how do i use it!!!
[07:49] <Loshki> dhanraj: there's a doc directory. Nothing in there?
[07:50] <jushur> dhanraj: install the package i said, then in a terminal "man libsolv"
[07:50] <dhanraj> ohk
[07:50] <dhanraj> in doc directory, there's nothing useful for beginner
[07:53] <jushur> dhanraj: and those sections it talks about in "man libsolv" is found by "man libsolv-constantids" and so on.
[07:54] <Volund> Ben64: To give you a complete explanation of what's going on- I've stuffed two 8tb drives into a Lenovo TS140 and am trying to turn it into a Ubuntu-powered NAS, home webserver (for experiments and learning), and just general linuxing. Given the NAS role I want to accomplish redundancy, so as you may remember I've been jumping around trying my hand at setting up things like RAID and LVM. However, I've been plagued with
[07:54] <Volund> mysterious lockups and freezes that typically strike when the system performs its first update via Software Updater. System Monitor can't find any process that's using up resources so I figure it -has- to be a hardware hang. 'Unpacking perl' should not take 15+ minutes, even on a likely-slow 8tb Seagate Archive drive. I've tried everything and run repeated benchmarking to see if the drives work properly. They seem to hold steady
[07:54] <Volund> no matter what I hammer them with. Tried Changing SATA ports, cables, everything. But every time SOME package hangs on unpacking and it's never the same one.
[07:54] <dhanraj> jushur: thank you
[07:54] <Volund> *downloads new image*
[07:55] <Ben64> Volund: check it with md5sum too
[07:55] <jushur> Volund: actually, you should go trough and check all cabless. heatsink (so its fans are working) and so on.
[07:56] <jushur> Volund: and maybe try the daily 16.04 build?
[07:56] <Volund> jushur: The system works great when it's not using the hard drive. and yeah I think I'll do that
[07:57] <Ben64> fyi - 16.04 isn't released yet, and therefore is supported only in #ubuntu+1
[07:58] <jushur> Volund: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ if you want to test with the new stuff. and if you have any questions when using it. do them in #ubuntu+1
[08:00] <jushur> im off for quite some time now, can write stuff to me but dont expect answers quickly.
[08:00] <Volund> I am just so damned frustrated because as you know Ben64 I've been hammering at this for like 8 hours now.
[08:00] <Volund> jushur: thanks for all the help. :)
[08:02] <jushur> Volund: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/ server edition as you wanted a NAS
[08:02] <Volund> Jushur: Going to go with Desktop and just install the packages. having the GUI is important to me :)
[08:03] <Volund> all I plan on really doing is setting up SAMBA
[08:06] <unicornjedi> hello, im trying to install playlinux OS, but when I insert the usb in my computer, I get "boot error"
[08:06] <unicornjedi> any ideas guys? thx
[08:06] <Ben64> unicornjedi: sorry, this channel only supports ubuntu
[08:06] <unicornjedi> Ben64, i believe playlinux is ubuntu based
[08:07] <Ben64> even so, it isn't ubuntu
[08:07] <unicornjedi> ur face isn't ubuntu
[08:08] <Volund> Come on, no need for such immaturity.
[08:09] <Volund> It doesn't solve problems. D: The proper thing to do here is ask if they DO have a IRC channel anyone knows about. Or go google it. @_@
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[08:11] <fauen> morning
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> whats the right command for removing timestamp on sudo? sudo -K lshw -C video ?
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> i need password prompted every command i do, not the default time to remember
[08:24] <phiona> lotuspsychje: i think -K would be enough. http://www.sudo.ws/man/1.7.4p6/sudo.man.html
[08:24] <Volund> oh for heavens sakes, the install's flopping on creating the file system. These drives are CURSED or something
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> phiona: well ive tested sudo -K and it still doesnt prompt for password after a sudo command
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> phiona: or would it need reboot
[08:25] <Volund> I wonder if it really is the motherboard not liking it. 8tb is not listed on the TS140's specs as an option... but they also didn't exist when it was made.
[08:26] <Ben64> Volund: thats a possibility
[08:26] <phiona> lotuspsychje: I dont know. never done it myself.
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> phiona: ok tnx anyway
[08:27] <Volund> Ben64: Would 'these drives are too much for the motherboard' cause intermittent, inexplicable hanging? I thought it would manifest as 'the drives don't appear at all' or 'cannot access sectors higher than some limit'
[08:28] <Volund> I mean this is a pretty darned solid possibility, not gonna say I won't buy it. Just kind of... it -almost is working- and yet isn't.
[08:29] <Ben64> Volund: hard to tell without being there
[08:32] <Volund> bah. at this point all I can really DO is... take the inactive 4tb out of my main box and see if Linux cooperates with it better. 4tb was listed as an option.
[08:33] <Ben64> Volund: you might want to go in the bios and make sure you have it set to ahci
[08:33] <Volund> Ben64: it is.
[08:33] <phiona> how do i go about  making space on my root partitions  with terminal once again please? i thought i could just scroll back but  my chat client only goes back so far.
[08:33] <Ben64> any errors pop up in dmesg when it goes weird?
[08:35] <dhanraj> jushur: i have read the docs and found out that they provide three language bindings : python,perl,ruby . so does that mean i can use it only in these languages?although the surce code is in c. so can i use it in also? i know this is trivial question but i am new open source development
[08:35] <Ben64> phiona: this one? Feb 25 2016 02:59:03 <k1l>	phiona: ok, now run "echo $(dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'`uname -r`'/q;p') $(dpkg --list | grep linux-headers | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\([0-9.-]*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/q;p') | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge"
[08:35] <Volund> ... or I could learn that my drives are actually 3tbs and not 4tbs. Siiiiiiiiiigh.
[08:37] <phiona> Ben64: yes. tnx. but there were preliminaries . can you pls go back further.
[08:38] <Volund> you know what, screw it. I don't care anymore. Gonna stick this spare 3tb HDD into the Linux box and just see what happens.
[08:39] <Volund> because I -know- that drive is good
[08:42] <zzarr> hello!
[08:42] <zzarr> can I force the local dns to update? (I'm on 15.10)
[08:43] <zzarr> I have a dyndns and the ip changed weeks ago and one stationary machine still have the old ip
[08:45] <Ben64> zzarr: if it changed weeks ago it isn't a dns problem, those update within 24 hours
[08:45] <zzarr> but if I run nslookup I can clearly see that it got the wrong ip
[08:45] <Volund> THIS is why I'll be glad to receive my new case tomorrow. http://puu.sh/nrUI4/08224ceffb.jpg
[08:47] <Ben64> zzarr: what dns server
[08:48] <phiona> Ben64: there were things to do before echo...... can you pls go back further.
[08:48] <kashish> on every boot I get the fsck /dev/sda6 message .can I hide the message behind the splash screen?
[08:48] <Ben64> phiona: give me something to look for
[08:50] <Ben64> Volund: eeeeeewww
[08:50] <Volund> ewww is right. :(
[08:50] <Volund> the components are good but the case is too cramped and until JUST NOW it wasn't in a good position for cleaning.
[08:50] <Volund> (this is my gaming rig, not the Linux box.)
[08:51] <phiona> Ben64:  i dont remember. maybe Feb 25 2016?
[08:51] <Ben64> phiona: i mean like a keyword
[08:52] <Volund> gonna shut down the gaming rig, bbiab
[08:53] <phiona> Ben64: sudo?
[08:54] <Ben64> phiona: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[08:56] <phiona> Ben64: rm?
[08:57] <phiona> Ben64: k1l?
[08:58] <Ben64> what are you trying to accomplish
[08:58] <phiona> Ben64: giving you keywords.
[08:59] <Ben64> right, but i'm done with logs. what are you trying to accomplish
[09:00] <mademoiselle> hello
[09:01] <mademoiselle> I am getting lots of 404 error when I run apt-get update, like this one "W: Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/multiverse/source/Sources  404  Not Found"
[09:01] <mademoiselle> when i run apt-get dist-upgrade, I get this error, WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[09:01] <Ben64> mademoiselle: pick a different mirror
[09:03] <phiona> Ben64:  nothing. just trying to learn what k1l taught.
[09:04] <Ben64> phiona: well if i don't know the problem, i can't give you a solution
[09:09] <syntroPi> Is there already a release date for lts?
[09:09] <mademoiselle> Ben64: I'm getting the same errors for the security mirrors as well, but I can't find alternative mirrors.
[09:09] <phiona> Ben64: keyword df -h then all the commands after that
[09:09] <Ben64> mademoiselle: you need to change the mirror to a different one
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> !xenial | syntroPi
[09:10] <Ben64> phiona: stop. explain what you want to accomplish and i'll tell you how you can do that
[09:11] <mademoiselle> Ben64, where do I find security mirrors and how do I change it?
[09:12] <phiona> Ben64:  how do i go about  making space on my root partitions  with terminal?
[09:12] <Ben64> mademoiselle: open the software center, Edit-> Software Sources, drop down box to choose another server
[09:13] <Ben64> phiona: by removing packages you don't need
[09:13] <mademoiselle> Ben64, I'm connected via ssh to my Ubuntu server, I don't have any other means of accessing it.
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | phiona
[09:14] <Ben64> mademoiselle: then you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:14] <mademoiselle> Ben64, where do I find security mirrors?
[09:14] <Ben64> mademoiselle: you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list ... replace ro with us
[09:16] <phiona> lotuspsychje: im kinda liking terminal.
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> phiona: you can use bleachbit from terminal also
[09:16] <syntroPi> Thanks lotuspsychje so i guess there is no more exact date than "Long Term Support release due out in April 2016"?
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> phiona: man bleachbit after install
[09:17] <rory_mckinley> It has been a while since I have used Ubuntu, but I seem to remember that it would, by default, integrate ssh-agent and askpass so when I used my ssh key with git, it would pop a GUI prompt for the key and then remember the password. Running 15.10 in a VM, it appears to no longer do that?
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: come to #ubuntu+1 please
[09:18] <phiona> lotuspsychje: i believe bleachbit only cleans the /home directory?
[09:18] <adviser> hi, wonder why the ubuntu mate 6 startup slow and it appears white screen for almost 2 mins before it launched.
[09:18] <rory_mckinley> Does anybody know how to get ssh-askpass, ssh-agent and git to play nicely. Have tried making a gnome keyring helper for git as well as using keychain - neither has worked
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> phiona: it cleans the overal system
[09:20] <mademoiselle> Ben64, I have tried lots of mirrors, same story "http://mirrors.namecheap.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-backports/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found"
[09:20] <zzarr> Ben64, 127.0.1.1
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> adviser: maybe the #ubuntu-mate guys might know? is your hardware strong enough to run it?
[09:20] <adviser> Anyone encountered this white screen start up issue? It's running on my Lenovo X61 laptop,
[09:20] <Ben64> mademoiselle: keep going until one works
[09:20] <Ben64> zzarr: nmcli dev list | grep DNS
[09:20] <adviser> Yes, mine lappy is core 2 duo 2.40Ghz, 3GBram
[09:21] <zzarr> Ben64, thanks, I'll try that
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> adviser: wich mate version is that?
[09:21] <adviser> Ubuntu Mate 16.04 Xenial Alpha 2 OS-32bits
[09:21] <zzarr> Ben64, nmcli don't accept the syntax
[09:22] <Ben64> what does it say
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> adviser: #ubuntu+1 please
[09:22] <mademoiselle> Ben64: are you serious? There are 397 mirrors on that website.
[09:22] <Ben64> mademoiselle: thats why i suggested you use the us one
[09:22] <zzarr> Ben64, Usage: nmcli device { COMMAND | help } .....
[09:23] <mademoiselle> Ben64: I've used the us one, same problem.
[09:23] <Ben64> zzarr: you're typing it incorrectly then
[09:23] <phiona> lotuspsychje: should  i check all of the checkmarks if i want a truly clean system?
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> phiona: thats up to you how deep you want to clean, default options will do alot already
[09:24] <zzarr> Ben64, I copy pasted your line
[09:24] <Ben64> zzarr: ok then, pastebin the full error from that
[09:25] <dhanraj> pip3 install rpm gives me error
[09:25] <dhanraj> cannot import rpm in python how should i do it?
[09:25] <phiona> lotuspsychje: ok tnx. im still waiting for k1l to come in.
[09:26] <zzarr> Ben64, it just say that the "dev"-command "list" is not available (translated from Swedish)
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> phiona: k1l is in the house
[09:26] <mademoiselle> Can anyone please help me fix this issue? "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found"
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> mademoiselle: have you added ppa's of any kind?
[09:27] <k1l> ?
[09:27] <zzarr> Ben64, I have nmcli version 1.0.4
[09:27] <mademoiselle> lotuspsychje: yes
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | mademoiselle
[09:29] <mademoiselle> lotuspsychje: E: Unable to locate package ppa-purge
[09:29] <Ben64> zzarr: how about 'nmcli dev'
[09:30] <phiona> k1l: how do i go about  making space on my root partitions  with terminal once again please? i thought i could just scroll back but  my chat client only goes back so far.
[09:30] <zzarr> Ben64, that worked
[09:30] <k1l> phiona: that depends on what the issues is. in your case it was too many installed kernels. so we removed that kernels and headers.
[09:30] <Ben64> zzarr: now 'nmcli dev list'
[09:31] <ouroumov> mademoiselle, can you issue the command: nc termbin.com 9999 < /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:31] <zzarr> Ben64, no, same error message
[09:31] <Ben64> zzarr: what version of ubuntu
[09:31] <rory_mckinley> Closing the loop: Turns out it ssh-agent  works by default with git, but you need to have both public and private key present. I am such a dumbass
[09:32] <zzarr> Ben64, 15.10
[09:32] <mademoiselle> ouroumov: now what?
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> mademoiselle: clean out your sources list manually then
[09:32] <zzarr> Ben64, and nmcli version 1.0.4
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> !sources | mademoiselle
[09:32] <phiona> k1l: yes,. how did we go about cleaning it step by step pls
[09:32] <ouroumov> mademoiselle, give the url
[09:32] <mademoiselle> ouroumov:  what url?
[09:33] <Ben64> zzarr: bah, they changed syntax. "nmcli dev show"
[09:33] <ouroumov> the command should print an url mademoiselle
[09:33] <ouroumov> (provided you have network access)
[09:33] <mademoiselle> ouroumov: it didn't print anything
[09:34] <mademoiselle> i can ping termbin.com and it returns response
[09:34] <mademoiselle> but that command doesn't print anything
[09:34] <ouroumov> you don't have a sources.list file?
[09:35] <mademoiselle> ouroumov: I do have one.
[09:35] <k1l> phiona: here is the conversation again: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/02/25/%23ubuntu.html#t10:01
[09:35] <zzarr> Ben64, I'll test that
[09:35] <ouroumov> mademoiselle, here's the result on my machine: ouroumov@Danaan:~/Desktop$ nc termbin.com 9999 < /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:35] <ouroumov> http://termbin.com/nzd8
[09:36] <zzarr> Ben64, the only DNS is the router
[09:36] <zzarr> Ben64, 192.168.1.1
[09:37] <zzarr> Ben64, I'll spank it some and see if it updates
[09:37] <Ben64> zzarr: you could try another dns server, or set your router to give a better dns
[09:37] <mademoiselle> ouroumov:  http://i.imgur.com/gQm0j86.png
[09:38] <ouroumov> Yeah, what I meant was: you sure you typed the command right?
[09:38] <mademoiselle> ouroumov: yeah, I copied and pasted the command
[09:39] <zzarr> Ben64, yea
[09:39] <ouroumov> mademoiselle, you should try and find the original sources.list file for wily and replace yours with it
[09:40] <C0r3> ouroumov: Heya
[09:40] <mademoiselle> ouroumov: http://pastebin.com/JfgLrSRS
[09:41] <ouroumov> hey C0r3
[09:41] <zzarr> Ben64, I rebooted the router, it did the trick
[09:41] <Ben64> zzarr: cool
[09:41] <zzarr> Ben64, thanks for your help :-)
[09:42] <Ben64> zzarr: you might want to have your router use better dns though
[09:42] <C0r3> ouroumov: You had a different nick as of I remember. It was ouroumov_
[09:42] <ouroumov> mademoiselle, try and use archive.canonical.com and security.canonical.com instead of the us mirror
[09:42] <mademoiselle> ok
[09:43] <phiona> k1l: yes. this is what im looking for.  tnx
[09:43] <ouroumov> C0r3, yes, I've multiple computers and there can be only one nick
[09:43] <C0r3> ouroumov: Oh. I see. :D
[09:44] <mademoiselle> ouroumov: I'm getting a whole lot of "Err http://archive.canonical.com wily/main amd64 Packages 404  Not Found"
[09:44] <mademoiselle> now what?
[09:44] <ouroumov> it's archive.canonical.com/ubuntu I think
[09:44] <ouroumov> same for security
[09:45] <Volund> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[09:45] <mademoiselle> ouroumov: http://pastebin.com/QSC2VqkH
[09:46] <Volund> Ben64: THE HARD DRIVES WERE THE PROBLEM.
[09:46] <Volund> Aaaahahahahahahahahaha.
[09:47] <Volund> I just stuffed all 3 of my gaming rig's drives in this thing and they're working spectacularly. Installed Ubuntu on the 256GB SSD. now need to figure out how I'm going to setup.... any kind of anything now, hrm
[09:47] <Ben64> Volund: well thats annoying
[09:48] <mademoiselle> ouroumov: i just accessed with the browser, and there's nothing useful on that mirror
[09:50] <ouroumov> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/
[09:50] <Volund> okay so a quick question. I have two 3tb drives in this device, one has a LOT of very important data stored on a giant NTFS volume. I want to have this data duplicated between the drives but using ext4 (or hell, ZFS if you think that's a good idea, I heard 16.x supports it.) Gonna move to +1 if I have to but in generalities, is it possible to setup duplication without throwing in a FOURTH...
[09:50] <Volund> ...drive? like, I want to <do something> to make Drive2 a Linux volume, transfer the NTFS data to it from Drive3, then make Drive3 Linux and get some kind of replication going?
[09:51] <mademoiselle> ouroumov: apparently I can't even wget Packages.gz on any server, must be a connection problem on my end
[09:51] <mademoiselle> thanks for the help, I'll see what management can do about it
[09:52] <ouroumov> mademoiselle, try this: http://pastebin.com/vuk94DGF
[09:52] <Volund> starting points would be great
[09:53] <Volund> I installed with LVM so
[09:53] <Volund> the SSD is already doing that mojo.
[09:53] <Volund> (not sure if it needs to, but it may come in handy later.)
[09:53] <twoion[shell]> Is there a canonical way for packages to configure modules to be loaded at system start on LTS12.04 (i.e. non-systemd) systems? We need to load the conntrack module with a specific setting. Configuring via /etc/sysctl.d would probably not work because the parameter in question (net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_buckets) is not writable with sysctl as root either. Is patching /etc/modules acceptable? I'm also not
[09:53] <twoion[shell]> clear about whether 'options' directives in modprobe.d apply to kernel modules not loaded manually via modprobe.
[09:54] <Volund> what's really startling, ben64? The Ubuntu installs and updates were taking like.... 30-50 minutes earlier. with the SSD they completed in under 5 minutes
[09:55] <ouroumov> Volund, that kind of task is usually bound by network I/O is it not?
[09:55] <Volund> ouroumov: huh?
[09:55] <ouroumov> I mean, when you do an update what takes a while is downloading the new packages, not setting them up usually
[09:55] <maha> hello any one please help me am getting this error when iam trying to install packages"Reading state information... Done
[09:55] <maha> libfile-mimeinfo-perl is already the newest version.
[09:55] <maha> lynx-cur is already the newest version.
[09:55] <maha> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[09:55] <maha> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[09:55] <maha> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[09:56] <ouroumov> !paste | maha
[09:56] <Volund> ouroumov: trust me it wasn't network IO
[09:56] <ouroumov> k
[09:57] <Volund> anyways this is my current dilemna. I need to setup some kind of volume that can FIRST accept a bunch of data, and THEN be extended with replication features to the drive that had all that data I sent it. Is this doable?
[09:58] <maha> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:59] <maha> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:59] <maha>  libgd-dev : Depends: libpng-dev
[09:59] <maha>              Depends: libfreetype6-dev but it is not going to be installed
[09:59] <maha>              Depends: libfontconfig-dev
[09:59] <maha>              Depends: libtiff-dev
[09:59] <maha>  libmysqlclient-dev : Depends: libmysqlclient18 (= 5.5.35+dfsg-1ubuntu1) but 5.5.47-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 is to be installed
[09:59] <mademoiselle> ouroumov: apparently it's a problem on our end
[09:59] <mademoiselle> ouroumov: do you know what ports apt uses to connect to mirrors?
[09:59] <mademoiselle> is it just 80 or 443?
[09:59] <Volund> maha: be more careful or the bots will keep muting you
[09:59] <ouroumov> I think it's 80 mademoiselle
[10:02] <Volund> okay i see how to do this by setting up software RAID 1.
[10:03] <Volund> I don't know if it's possible to get LVM going at the same time with that setup though...
[10:03] <Ben64> you should just do lvm
[10:03] <Volund> Ben64: researching now
[10:03] <Guest61886> Hello, i have a problem, my icons on desktop (Xfce) slice in the left corner on the top. Where can i fix it?
[10:05] <mademoiselle> thanks, ouroumov
[10:06] <WTFguy> configure: error: Either a previously installed pkg-config or "glib-2.0 >= 2.16" could not be foternal-glib to configure to use the bundled copy.
[10:06] <WTFguy> hello
[10:06] <WTFguy> somebody can help?
[10:06] <Guest61886> hello
[10:06] <WTFguy> configure: error: Either a previously installed pkg-config or "glib-2.0 >= 2.16" could not be foternal-glib to configure to use the bundled copy.
[10:07] <WTFguy> am trying to install pkg config
[10:07] <Ben64> WTFguy: give way more details, have more patience
[10:07] <WTFguy> $ curl http://pkgconfig.freedesktop.org/releases/pkg-config-0.28.tar.gz -o pkgconfig.tgz
[10:07] <WTFguy> $ tar -zxf pkgconfig.tgz && cd pkg-config-0.28
[10:07] <WTFguy> $ ./configure && make install
[10:07] <Guest61886> my english is not good - can t read it
[10:07] <WTFguy> ./configure is not working
[10:07] <WTFguy> checking for GLIB... no
[10:07] <WTFguy> configure: error: Either a previously installed pkg-config or "glib-2.0 >= 2.16" could not be foternal-glib to configure to use the bundled copy.
[10:09] <WTFguy> HElp....
[10:10] <Ben64> WTFguy: sorry, we don't support self compiled stuff here
[10:10] <WTFguy> dafuQ!
[10:20] <Volund> Ben64: used fdisk to clear the one free disk I have, created a Linux LVM partition.... now I need to go the next level... lessee
[10:21]  * Volund boggles at fdisk -l why do I have 16 RAM drives or something
[10:37] <Volund> huzzah
[10:37] <Volund> I CREATED A LOGICAL VOLUME big enough to hold all this stuff. can mirror it later. :D
[10:37]  * Volund begins transfer. hope it completes safely overnight, needs to zonk
[10:48] <AlexPortable> Where can I download ethernet drivers for my laptop?
[10:49] <hateball> AlexPortable: That's not typically something you do, they are included in the kernel
[10:50] <AlexPortable> no network devices available
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: ubuntu version?
[10:55] <zimek125> ;)
[10:55] <Volund> Ben64: success! data copying
[10:57] <zimek125> hello, i have problem with ubuntu 14.04.3 (kernel 3.19.0): i compile a kernel 3.4.110 and installed it, but i can't boot system with older kernel
[10:58] <zimek125> kernel can't mount root partition
[10:59] <AlexPortable> lotuspsychje: 15.10
[10:59] <zimek125> ?
[11:00] <zimek125> hello, i have problem with ubuntu 14.04.3 (kernel 3.19.0): i compile a kernel 3.4.110 and installed it, but i can't boot system with older kernel
[11:00] <zimek125> kernel can't mount root partition
[11:00] <AlexPortable> ?
[11:00] <zimek125> can you help me? ;>
[11:01] <AlexPortable> no
[11:01] <bazhang> zimek125, why are you going outside package management with your own kernel
[11:02] <bazhang> !find linux-image
[11:02] <zimek125> I need older kernel (<3.8.0-27) for a PCI device (Euresys Frame Grabber)
[11:03] <bazhang> !info linux-image-generic
[11:03] <ouroumov__> AlexPortable, last time I saw that "no network devices" available messages I had screwed up something doing a debian install and my /etc/network/interfaces file was wrong.
[11:03] <bazhang> zimek125, what does this frame grabber do
[11:04] <AlexPortable> ouroumov__: well i just did a clean install
[11:04] <zimek125> It supports 8 cameras for live streaming
[11:04] <ouroumov__> DId your machine have network access during the install AlexPortable ?
[11:04] <AlexPortable> nope
[11:05] <ouroumov__> AlexPortable,  Do lshw -C network
[11:07] <Volund_> bwahahaha *connects from laptop*
[11:07] <zimek125> bazhang priv
[11:08] <bazhang> zimek125, keep it here
[11:09] <zimek125> ok
[11:10] <zimek125> bazhang i need this grabber, but driver work only in kernel < 3.8.0
[11:10] <AlexPortable> ouroumov__: nothing. I know on windows i needed Intel 82579LM and 82579V
[11:10] <yayel59> AlexPortable & ouroumov__ : c'est toujours rigolo de voir deux francophones se parler anglais :-)
[11:10] <AlexPortable> or well, the 1 driver for both
[11:10] <AlexPortable> yayel59: wat
[11:10] <bazhang> zimek125, no idea about a kernel downgrade with that, sorry
[11:11] <AlexPortable> yayel59: I'm not french
[11:11] <zimek125> wait ;)
[11:11] <yayel59> AlexPortable : but your nick seem french. Sorry :-(
[11:11] <AlexPortable> yayel59: why?
[11:11] <AlexPortable> yayel59: Portable is english word
[11:12] <yayel59> AlexPortable : yes ! Very sorry :-( I'm confused
[11:13] <zimek125> bazhang, i can downgrade kernel (and this working on machine with one disk), but if i trying to downgrade kernel on server with raid (megaraid_sas) system can't boot :/
[11:15] <bazhang> zimek125, I cannot help with that, as I said
[11:15] <zimek125> ok
[11:18] <AlexPortable> How do I install a network diriver?
[11:19] <yecine> Hello guys
[11:19] <yecine> how you doing ?
[11:19] <yecine> i'm looking for some help to configure network on a linux server (no gui)
[11:22] <bazhang> yecine, what version of ubuntu server
[11:23] <yecine> it's an old server that i got unutun 10.04
[11:23] <Volund_> by the way
[11:23] <bazhang> !10.04
[11:23] <yecine> yeah very old server :)
[11:23] <bazhang> thats end of life yecine
[11:23] <AlexPortable> Anyone can help me get networking to wokr?
[11:23] <AlexPortable> work*
[11:23] <Volund_> PLEASE TELL ME that there's a better way to administrate LVM than the CLI.
[11:24] <bazhang> grab the newer 14.04 at least yecine or 16.04 next month
[11:24] <yecine> yeah i want to connect it to network so i can see what's inside with ssh
[11:24] <popey> Volund_: there is not.
[11:24] <yecine> backup what i need and upgrade
[11:24] <bazhang> yecine, check the link on eolupgrades
[11:25] <yecine> the issue that i have now is that i have setup the /et/network/interfaces file to get dhcp
[11:25] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | yecine
[11:25] <bazhang> last link there yecine
[11:25] <bazhang> and there is #ubuntu-server for help as well yecine
[11:25] <yecine> but it's requesting dhcp on wrong network 192.168.1.x
[11:25] <yecine> instead on 192.168.0.x
[11:26]  * Volund_ zonks
[11:26] <odt> so whats up with the latest isc-dhcp-client
[11:26] <yecine> to do the update i have to setup network so it can access internet
[11:26] <odt> it kills any interfce it listens on and itself will not die unless a kill -9 is ggiven
[11:26] <AlexPortable> bazhang: do keep in mond, how can I he upgrade without access to the system?
[11:26] <AlexPortable> mind*
[11:26] <AlexPortable> -I
[11:27] <bazhang> AlexPortable, that was not for you it was for yecine
[11:27] <AlexPortable> bazhang: yes but still
[11:28] <yecine> bazhang: i have root access to server
[11:28] <bazhang> AlexPortable, address the channel with your issue every 10-15 minutes, if someone can help they will
[11:29] <AlexPortable> Okay
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: did you try an LTS version?
[11:32] <AlexPortable> nope
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: you could try, see if your ethernet card gets recognized
[11:32] <AlexPortable> 14.04 ?
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: sure 14.04.4
[11:32] <mattkim> hello everyone.
[11:33] <madwizard> Hello, hello, hello
[11:33] <yecine> bazhang: do you think you can help me?
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> yecine: you just been told your version is end of life
[11:35] <bazhang> yecine, have you started the eol upgrade to a supported version yet? did you read the link I gave you about that yet?
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> yecine: choose a supported ubuntu version from our topic
[11:36] <yecine> yes but in order for apt-get to work i have to have internet access on the server
[11:37] <yecine> and right now i don't as the networking interfaces seem that they can reach any other machine on my network
[11:37] <Segfault_> Is there an overview of the changes from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 that people using Ubuntu Server would care about? All I am able to find is stuff about unity and other desktop related news
[11:38] <renlinx> hi all
[11:39] <renlinx> is there any minimal ubuntu server available ??
[11:39] <bazhang> renlinx, theres a mini
[11:39] <bazhang> !minimal | renlinx
[11:40] <bazhang> server itself is fairly minimalist
[11:40] <renlinx> like
[11:40] <renlinx> snappy as a distro instead of
[11:40] <renlinx> other
[11:40] <renlinx> how to install it on aws
[11:40] <bazhang> snappy's not active yet
[11:43] <tuor> Hi, how can I override the mbr befor beginning the partitioning in the preseed file? (Like zerombr in a kickstart file)
[11:45] <AlexPortable> How can I get ethernet to work?
[11:47] <hateball> AlexPortable: Are you using 14.04 or 15.10?
[11:47] <AlexPortable> 15.10
[11:47] <hateball> AlexPortable: What is the output of "lspci|grep Net" ?
[11:47] <AlexPortable> ill try 14.04 later
[11:47] <AlexPortable> nothing
[11:48] <hateball> AlexPortable: What manner of computer is this?
[11:48] <AlexPortable> manner?
[11:48] <Auctus> vlc flashes green frames frequently when im watching a video on ubuntu 15.10, i have two monitors and proprietary nvidia drivers, green flashing doesnt happen in default totem video player
[11:48] <hateball> Well, is it a laptop of some model? Is it a desktop you built yourself?
[11:48] <AlexPortable> oh
[11:48] <AlexPortable> HP ProBook 6570b
[11:49] <bazhang> Auctus, what about smplayer
[11:50] <hateball> AlexPortable: I am using that exact model right now, and it has a working Intel chipset out of the box
[11:50] <Auctus> bazhang: didnt try it perhaps i should, not installed currently
[11:50] <bazhang> !info smplayer
[11:51] <hateball> AlexPortable: ok do "lspci |nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the resulting link here
[11:52] <AlexPortable> hateball: no internet, ill use usb stick
[11:53] <renlinx> quit
[11:53] <hateball> AlexPortable: Has this machine had working ethernet before?
[11:53] <AlexPortable> on windows, yes
[11:53] <hateball> AlexPortable: In another OS or whatever.
[11:53] <hateball> Ok
[11:53] <AlexPortable> Host bridge, VGA controller, usb, pci bridge, usb controller, isa bridge, ide interface, ide interface
[11:54] <AlexPortable> these things are listed in lspci
[11:56] <hateball> AlexPortable: Do you see something like a network interface when you run "lsusb" ?
[11:56] <hateball> AlexPortable: Since hp likes to change chipsets etc even for the same model, you might have a different setup than I do
[11:57] <AlexPortable> hateball: nope, only usb devices
[11:57] <AlexPortable> HM76 chipset
[12:01] <hateball> AlexPortable: Well I don't really know. You could try with a nightly 16.04 live-boot I guess
[12:01] <nosoundonmy> My laptop is run by lubuntu 15.10 but when there is no sound when I play youtube videos
[12:01] <nosoundonmy> its me again
[12:02] <AlexPortable> nosoundonmy: flash or html5?
[12:03] <nosoundonmy> I dont know a thing about flash or html5
[12:04] <AlexPortable> rightclick the video, what do you see?
[12:05] <nosoundonmy> html5
[12:05] <AlexPortable> which browser?
[12:06] <nosoundonmy> AlexPortable: mozilla firefox
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: i would try also a 14.04.4 with internet access + updates enabled during setup
[12:08] <nosoundonmy> I tried puppy linux but it has the same problem, no sound
[12:08] <nosoundonmy> Aiyo this thing is wierd man
[12:08] <nosoundonmy> I cant get it to work
[12:09] <AlexPortable> nosoundonmy: try another browser
[12:09] <nosoundonmy> I dont think it can play any sound on this laptop
[12:09] <AlexPortable> try external speakers
[12:09] <AlexPortable> if they work, internal speakers are disabled or broken
[12:10] <nosoundonmy> AlexPortable: but thats cheating
[12:10] <AlexPortable> it's diagnosing the problem, no?
[12:10] <ubuntu065> hi! anyone familiar with ACL? i do not understand some behaviour
[12:11] <nosoundonmy> AlexPortable: I dont own an external speaker. But it works fine when I use windows 7 as boot option. Now I'm trying Lubuntu without installing
[12:12] <ubuntu065> when i create a file in a folder that has assigned default acl, why the file does not adapt the acl from the parent target?
[12:14] <nosoundonmy> AlexPortable: I just plugged an earphone and it doesnt work too
[12:14] <AlexPortable> can you try to play .mp3 or .mp4 file?
[12:16] <Mathisen> hello this morning when booting upp my computer i get this error when gnome starts " mediascanner-service-2.0 Crashed with SIGABRT in __gnu_cxx:__verbose_terminate_handler() "  any ideas ?
[12:16] <Mathisen> is it important ? do i need to worry ?
[12:16] <Mathisen> ubuntu 15.10 wily
[12:17] <ouroumov__> It doesn't sound important Mathisen
[12:17] <ouroumov__> Were you able to reproduce the issue?
[12:17] <AlexPortable> hateball: just tried live 14.04.4, no difference in internet
[12:18] <Mathisen> ouroumov__, i dont know i just started the computer
[12:18] <Mathisen> never seen it before
[12:18] <ouroumov__> Mathisen, if next time on startup you see the same message, go look in /var/crash, if there's *.crash files in there remove them so make the message disappear.
[12:19] <ouroumov__> to*
[12:19] <Mathisen> ouroumov__, okej will do thx
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: ok try perhaps 16.04 daily, if that doesnt work i would bug it
[12:20] <lukesoft> Guys i just installed ubuntu server, and at some point during installation is asked me what i would like to install, and there was like 6 options including DNS server, Samba etc…….without knowledge i installed just the first one……and i am not sure if its exactly what i need, how do i go back to that option
[12:20] <AlexPortable> works fine on windows though
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: mentioning your chipset, logs, ubuntu versions you tried
[12:20] <nosoundonmy> can I say something really wierd here
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: you cant compare windows with ubuntu
[12:21] <AlexPortable> HM76 chipset, ubuntu 15.04, ubuntu 14.04.4
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> nosoundonmy: if its ubuntu related
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> !bug | AlexPortable
[12:21] <nosoundonmy> I have a feeling I'm being followed online
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> nosoundonmy: not really an ubuntu issue
[12:21] <bazhang> nosoundonmy, thats not on topic here
[12:22] <nosoundonmy> so I try to change to linux because its safer
[12:22] <lukesoft> lotuspsychje:  i just installed ubuntu server, and at some point during installation is asked me what i would like to install, and there was like 6 options including DNS server, Samba etc…….without knowledge i installed just the first one……and i am not sure if its exactly what i need, how do i go back to that option
[12:22] <AlexPortable> lotuspsychje: this seems to be purely for packages, no?
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> lukesoft: try to #ubuntu-server guys please
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: well thats why its important to investigate the logs first
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: see whats happening
[12:23] <AlexPortable> which logs?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: syslog,dmesg
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: findout why your ethernet card doenst get recognized
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: then add this to the bug
[12:24] <lukesoft> lotuspsychje: Thanks
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> lukesoft: there is also #samba and ##networking
[12:25] <nosoundonmy> sshhh, do you know when I said something about some*** my connection got cut off..
[12:25] <ouroumov__> nosoundonmy, update regularly, be careful of WiFi hotspots, install the browsers addons 'uBlock Origin', 'Privacy Badger', 'HTTPS everywhere'
[12:26] <hateball> AlexPortable: I said 16.04, not 14.04. Just to see if a more recent kernel works better
[12:27] <ubuntu065> problem with default acl. why the newly created file, does not get the acl from parent directory? http://pastebin.com/Sc2B9FLS
[12:29] <nosoundonmy> I once place a question on some less known page. "What do you want?" And next day it was answered. Creepy
[12:30] <nosoundonmy> Whatever page I went, always always that answer keeps popping up
[12:31] <bazhang> !offtopic | nosoundonmy
[12:31] <nosoundonmy> well, I know its someone in here that made my online worse..bye
[12:47] <njumdl2014> I copy my ssh key to the remote by ssh-copy-id. And I test it in debian,ubuntu. debian is ok, ubuntu can't. It always needs my password.
[12:57] <Multbrelch> Hi. topic = nfs. After having edited '/etc/exports' with '/path/to/dir      IPaddress(rw,async,nfsvers=3)'   'sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart' says 'unknown keyword "nfsvers=3"' Has this option nfsvers changed?
[12:59] <thecyclone> .
[13:03] <AlexPortable> anyone can hlep me to get my internet to work?
[13:03] <xmj> moin
[13:03] <xmj> how do i find out whch ubuntu package contains Log::Dispatch::Colorful module  perl module?
[13:04] <Multbrelch> Under Ubuntu 14.04, can a nfs server with nfs version 3 be created?
[13:09] <njumdl2014>  I copy my ssh key to the remote by ssh-copy-id. And I test it in debian,ubuntu. debian is ok, ubuntu can't. It always needs my password. I use Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS
[13:09] <njumdl2014> How to solve this problem
[13:09] <njumdl2014> ?
[13:10] <live_> hello
[13:10] <live_> i am having trouble installing Pinguy OS on my desktop
[13:10] <PerlinNoise> hi live_
[13:11] <live_> when i use the live boot from my USB
[13:11] <live_> it is connected to the internet
[13:11] <live_> but when i start the installation
[13:11] <PerlinNoise> this is the ubuntu channel, live_
[13:11] <live_> it doesnt recognize that i am connected to the internet
[13:11] <live_> how can i fix that ?
[13:12] <live_> PerlinNoise, yeah i know
[13:13] <live_> PerlinNoise, i was hopin i could find some help here
[13:14] <hateball> live_: try #pinguyos
[13:15] <live_> hateball, i am already on the #PinguyOS channel
[13:15] <live_> hateball,  but no one is connected atm
[13:16] <jaaphermsen> Boottime Linux Mint 17.3 decreases suddenly from 1 minute to 2 minutes. What can I do next to undo this?
[13:16] <lapyo> what did you install
[13:18] <hateball> !mint | jaaphermsen why not ask over here
[13:18] <ajax92> .
[13:19] <ajax92> Hey, so i have a laptop with nothing on it (no os) and i've got a ubuntu usb drive i made with unetbootin, but i am unable to boot using the usb drive as a boot device. Instead all i get is uefi hardware diagnostics with options to do memory check and harddrive checks..
[13:19] <ajax92> Does anyone know what i can try to get it to boot into the usb i made
[13:20] <ajax92> Like, clicking boot device options, which used to bring up different devices, now just brings up the uefi hardware diagnostics
[13:20] <rory> ajax92: I never have luck with unetbootin
[13:20] <rory> ajax92: Are there two entries in your bios for the flash drive? One normal and one UEFI? There is on mine
[13:21] <Cablegunmaster> problem of 4 primary partitions, wanting to change my Layout of my partitions with Gparted , how to solve this? with keeping the dualboot intact?
[13:22] <lapyo> most modern laptops have also a key for boot options without messing with the BIOS
[13:22] <jaaphermsen> Okay, I'll look further..
[13:23] <masonjar99> Hi. Im trying to install ubuntu from a livecd on a laptop. Whenever i hit the "install ubuntu" i get an error message telling me "mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[13:24] <masonjar99> i've already tried 3 or 4 times to re download the iso, because googling this error told me that i had a corrupted iso file
[13:24] <masonjar99> Tried changing the usb sticks file format, tried using a different usb stick
[13:24] <lapyo> have you tried using a torrented .iso file+
[13:24] <lapyo> ?*
[13:24] <masonjar99> Nope, only the official ones from ubuntu... is there any reason to use a version some private person uploaded?
[13:25] <xangua> masonjar99: some private person?
[13:25] <masonjar99> So
[13:25] <xangua> ! Downloadtorrent
[13:25] <xangua> Mmmm
[13:25] <terrasapien> why not just check the shasum to know if your iso is corrupt or not?
[13:25] <lapyo> ubuntu also offer torrent .isos, sometimes direct download breaks the file
[13:25] <masonjar99> Im pretty sure theres nothing wrong with the iso, because i've downloaded it 2-3 times on two different laptops
[13:26] <masonjar99> And also used different laptops to re make the bootable drive
[13:26] <lapyo> have you tried installing it on any other machine?
[13:27] <masonjar99> No, i only have one other machine that works atm. The laptop im trying to install on has like nothing on it.. i managed to install and launch ubuntu from a stick, but what im trying to do now is install ubuntu onto the main hdd
[13:28] <masonjar99> So i have a usb stick i can put in, and it boots up okay, and i have a seperate one with like a unetbootin ready install, and that gives me the error
[13:28] <lapyo> are you sure your hardware is okay?
[13:28] <xangua> 7:25 AM <terrasapien> why not just check the shasum to know if your iso is corrupt or not?
[13:28] <masonjar99> And im sure theres nothing wrong with the installer stick
[13:28] <lapyo> or is it an older pc
[13:28] <Multbrelch> If I have a NFS server that runs under Ubuntu 64Bit, can I 32Bit client share folders with it?
[13:28] <AlexPortable> Multbrelch: yes
[13:28] <masonjar99> Yeah, the laptop was working fine yesterday running unbuntu 15.0.4,
[13:28] <madwizard> Multbrelch: NFS protocol is platform agnostic
[13:29] <masonjar99> Its an hp probook 6470b
[13:29] <masonjar99> All i did was remove everything, like everything off the hdd
[13:29] <masonjar99> And tried to do a clean ubuntu install
[13:29] <masonjar99> Here i am 20 hrs later still trying to work it out
[13:29] <lapyo> that's kinda odd
[13:30] <xangua> 7:25 AM <lapyo> ubuntu also offer torrent .isos, sometimes direct download breaks the file.  7:25 AM <lapyo> ubuntu also offer torrent .isos, sometimes direct download breaks the file.    masonjar99
[13:30] <Multbrelch> AlexPortable, and MadAGu, so the server is Ubuntu 64B 14.04 and the client an old Solaris 2.5 work station. The SUN says that NFS readdir fails. What to do?
[13:30] <xangua> 7:25 AM <terrasapien> why not just check the shasum to know if your iso is corrupt or not? Ups masonjar99
[13:30] <masonjar99> But i was able to download and make a usb and install ubuntu on the usb so i could boot into it on the computer in question
[13:30] <masonjar99> So direct download is obviously not the issue
[13:31] <masonjar99> i mean ur just copy pasting
[13:31] <masonjar99> I said when i first stated my question that i already read all the replies about corrupt fiels
[13:32] <AlexPortable> Multbrelch: check permissions
[13:32] <masonjar99> Which is why i re downloaded it on different computers and re made the boot stick 5 times
[13:32] <Multbrelch> AlexPortable, on the Ubuntu machine I guess
[13:32] <AlexPortable> yes
[13:33] <Multbrelch> AlexPortable, everybody (ugo) can read the dir on the server
[13:34] <mouse_> I installed kde but when I'm not in kde, a lot of programs still use the kde themes. how do I get them to use the gnome themes again?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:34] <masonjar99> Hey so im trying to install ubuntu on an empty hdd with no os. I've got a bootable usb stick, and i know the iso used to create it is not corrupted. The error i get when i try to install ubuntu is: "mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[13:35] <masonjar99> Does anyone know what the problem might be, or have suggestions as to what i can try
[13:36] <lapyo> how about trying to use lubuntu, it may offer better support for your hardware
[13:39] <masonjar99> Hey so im trying to install ubuntu on an empty hdd with no os. I've got a bootable usb stick, and i know the iso used to create it is not corrupted. The error i get when i try to install ubuntu is: "mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device Can not mount /dev/loop0
[13:40] <xangua> ! Repeat | masonjar99
[13:40] <AlexPortable> Multbrelch: no idea, sorry
[13:40] <AlexPortable> anyone can hlep me to get my internet to work?
[13:41] <masonjar99> I asked already, got some replies and then xangua copy pasted them back to me 2 times
[13:41] <masonjar99> ! Repeat | xangua
[13:42] <xangua> masonjar99: please read carefully the factoid instead of taking it as a personal attack
[13:43] <masonjar99> ! Repeat | xangua
[13:43] <Pici> knock it off.
[13:43] <masonjar99> Stop speaking to me, you've said nothing to help, only copy others replies
[13:45] <Zeljko> Any free shell account which support Eggdrop ????
[13:46] <Pici> Zeljko: Thats not really on-topic for Ubuntu OS support.
[13:47] <ays> how are most GUI wrappers made for debian based distros?
[13:47] <Pici> ays: the same way they would be for any other distro? leverage apis.
[13:48] <masonjar99> Hey so im trying to install ubuntu on an empty hdd with no os. I've got a bootable usb stick, and i know the iso used to create it is not corrupted. The error i get when i try to install ubuntu is: "mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device Can not mount /dev/loop0
[13:48] <ays> Pici : can you elaborate a little on leverage apis?
[13:49] <Pici> ays: use an API for whatever thing you're trying to wrap.
[13:50] <ays> are there any official apis for gui wrapping?
[13:51] <Pici> ays: ubuntu-app-devel might have some suggestions
[13:52] <Pici> ays: sorry, #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:52] <ays> Pici : thanks!
[13:54] <AlexPortable> anyone can hlep me to get my internet to work?
[13:55] <masonjar99> maybe.. u dont have wireless?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> !u
[13:57] <viji> hi anyone can help me in ubuntu os installation
[13:57] <masonjar99> Lol so many rule nerds on irc, fucking annoying
[13:57] <masonjar99> Hey so im trying to install ubuntu on an empty hdd with no os. I've got a bootable usb stick, and i know the iso used to create it is not corrupted. The error i get when i try to install ubuntu is: "mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device Can not mount /dev/loop0
[13:58] <BluesKaj> masonjar99, stopt the repitition, we saw your first psot, if someone knows an answer they will respond
[13:58] <AlexPortable> masonjar99: nope
[13:58] <masonjar99> Repetition? Surely i can repeat my question every 10 minutes if noone replies?
[13:58] <Pici> masonjar99: can you please verify the iso?
[13:59] <masonjar99> People are leaving and joining like crazy
[13:59] <BluesKaj> not if you have parts and joins turned off, like a lot of us have
[13:59] <Pici> !md5sum | see masonjar99
[14:03] <masonjar99> Sure, i can check the md5 sum. Just tried torrenting the same version of ubuntu, and reformatting and remaking the usb boot with unetbootin, same error. Ill do the md5 check though... What im getting at is that i dont think that theres anything wrong with the usb or the iso, but rather something wrong with the files on the hdd im trying to install on
[14:07] <BluesKaj> masonjar99, in  my experience unetbootin fails 50% of the time , use startup disk creator or dd to copy the image to your stick
[14:09] <masonjar99> Pici: The md5 sums are the same. The error persists.
[14:09] <masonjar99> BluesKaj: Im using unetbootin because om on a windows machine right now, do you have any windows alternatives to unetbootin?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> masonjar99, http://alternativeto.net/software/unetbootin/?platform=windows
[14:13] <AlexPortable> anyone can help me to get my internet to work?
[14:13] <adrian_1908> Rufus (the first one mentioned) is pretty damn popular, I haven't heard bad things about it tough I haven't used it myself.
[14:13] <Kartagis> error while loading shared libraries: libc++.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <--- how do I fix this? http://stackoverflow.com/a/24162990/1384283 was applied (replacing 32 with 64)
[14:14] <BluesKaj> AlexPortable, tell what is happening or not happening ...details please
[14:14] <masonjar99> I can try with rufus. Seriously doubt thats the problem though. MD5 sums are fine, doesnt work with unetbootin, doesnt work with universal usb installer, doesnt work with startup disk creator
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> masonjar99  windows has yummi or yumma or so
[14:15] <BluesKaj> yumi
[14:15] <AlexPortable> BluesKaj: No network devices available
[14:16] <masonjar99> The first 3 error messages are: "tpm_tis 00:01 A TPM error(7) occurred attemtpting to read a pcr" [drm:intel_set_pch_fifo_underrun_reporting [i915]] *ERROR* uncleared pch fifo underrun on pch transcoder A
[14:16] <BluesKaj> AlexPortable, which NIC/ethernet or wifi ?
[14:16] <masonjar99> And: [drm:intel_pch_fifo_underrun_irg_handler [i915]] *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun
[14:16] <Stawidy> you can boot in uefi mode with the usb made by unetbootin
[14:17] <AlexPortable> BluesKaj: no idea, on Windows installing the driver for intel Intel 82579LM and 82579V worked
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  pastebin the outcome of  sudo lshw -C network    http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:23] <masonjar99> Okay, now creating a new usb boot stick, with a different physcical usb. Also did a "secure wipe" of the laptops hdd in bios. Lets hope i dont get the same error again.
[14:23] <tomek_> hi
[14:23] <Kartagis> error while loading shared libraries: libc++.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <--- how do I fix this? http://stackoverflow.com/a/24162990/1384283 was applied (replacing 32 with 64)
[14:23] <Cablegunmaster>  good luck masonjar99 !
[14:23] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust:
[14:23] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust: nothing
[14:23] <tomek_> who can help me with buttons maximize minimize close
[14:23] <tomek_> how to move left to right
[14:23] <AlexPortable> tomek_: dconf-editor
[14:24] <tomek_> and?
[14:24] <AlexPortable> tomek_: open a terminal, and put this: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout 'menu:minimize,maximize,close'
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  pastebin the outpuit of   lspci -nn
[14:26] <tomek_> Alex: dont work
[14:26] <AlexPortable> tomek_: it crashes?
[14:27] <tomek_> nothing happens
[14:27] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust Host bridge, VGA controller, usb, pci bridge, usb controller, isa bridge, ide interface, ide interface
[14:27] <masonjar99> Well thanks for trying guys, fixed the issue
[14:27] <masonjar99> Was none of your suggestions, but like i though, something was wrong with the hdd
[14:28] <masonjar99> After i did a "clean wipe" or whatever in bios, the usb stick worked fine
[14:28] <C0r3> I was looking for a software which can screencast and at the same time record from my webcam. Something like camtasia in Windows.
[14:29] <masonjar99> Have you checked out the software twitch streamers use?
[14:29] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust: on a related note, audio also isn't working
[14:29] <AlexPortable> 'dummy output'
[14:29] <__raven> hi
[14:30] <Guest85831> hello world
[14:30] <BluesKaj> AlexPortable, download the driver here then copy to your ubuntu /home/user  and extract it then run sudo modprobe nameofdriver , https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/15817/Network-Adapter-Driver-for-PCI-E-Gigabit-Network-Connections-under-Linux-
[14:30] <C0r3> masonjar99: No what is that?
[14:31] <AlexPortable> BluesKaj: inside the folder?
[14:31] <Kartagis> !find libc++.so
[14:31] <Guest85831> hello guys
[14:31] <masonjar99> C0r3: http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/topics/358640-broadcast-hardware-and-software/articles
[14:31] <tomek_> how to move minimize max close from leftt to right?
[14:31] <tomek_> anyone can help me?
[14:32] <Kartagis> tomek_: you have already been helped
[14:32] <Umeaboy> tomek_: Google.
[14:32] <Umeaboy> :)
[14:32] <tomek_> dont work
[14:32] <BluesKaj> AlexPortable, it will extract to folder, you can open a termina inside the folder
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> !google | Umeaboy
[14:32] <BluesKaj> terminal
[14:32] <Kartagis> define "don't work"
[14:32] <__raven> two major problems with my desktop on 15.10 xubuntu: 1. startup only possible using kernel 4.2.0-18-gen in recovery mode. everything else switches off keyboard or leads to black screen. any idea?
[14:33] <Kartagis> !info glibc-source
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> tomek_  in Unity-Tweak:  Appearance > windows controls
[14:33] <kwk> dont you have to log out and back in after changing the left vs right side setting for the min,max,close buttons?
[14:33] <Kartagis> !find glibc
[14:33] <AlexPortable> BluesKaj: sudo modprobe e1000e
[14:33] <AlexPortable> BluesKaj: now reboot?
[14:34] <Kartagis> I don't have glibc-source, how can I get libc++.so?
[14:34] <__raven> 2: nvidia card needs closed driver because of full speed fan on built in nouveau. but i cannot save any settings so i have to edit dual head every startup. any idea?
[14:34] <jushur> Volund_: so it was actually an issue with the machine not being able to use the drives properly?
[14:34] <Kartagis> I mean glibc<tab> doesn't bring it up
[14:34] <tomek_> dont work
[14:35] <Kartagis> tomek_: define "don't work"
[14:35] <tomek_> buttons dont move
[14:35] <Kartagis> you may have to kill your DE
[14:37] <jushur> tomek_: just relog, if your not sure how to do restart your DE/Unity
[14:41] <BluesKaj> AlexPortable, which ubuntu? if you're on 15.10 the in the terminal , sudo systemctl restart network-manager
[14:42] <AlexPortable> yes 15.10
[14:43] <AlexPortable> BluesKaj: what now?
[14:44] <Kartagis> help?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> then close the terminal you opened in the folder ,and open a new one and run the above command , ale
[14:44] <BluesKaj> AlexPortable,^
[14:44]  * Kartagis jumps up and down for help
[14:44] <AlexPortable> BluesKaj: no i mean i did that
[14:44] <AlexPortable> i restarted the network manager
[14:44] <hlh> hello, i have a question
[14:45] <BluesKaj> did you see network-manager notification/popup, AlexPortable?
[14:45] <hlh> if i make a bootable usb on windows using rufus, would it still be able to work on my pc running 15.04?
[14:45] <AlexPortable> BluesKaj: yes it said that im offline
[14:45] <AlexPortable> or disconnected or something
[14:45] <BluesKaj> hmm, i guess a reboot
[14:46] <AlexPortable> BluesKaj: same issue
[14:46] <AlexPortable> and then after reboot sudo rmmod e1000e will say that e1000e isnt loaded
[14:47] <AlexPortable> i also did update-initramfs -u to be sure
[14:47] <hlh> so is it possible for me to use a bootable usb made on windows 10 using rufus? i'm trying to install windows on my laptop
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> hlh  how is that ubuntu related?
[14:49] <hlh> because i want to know if the usb will work on my laptop that i'm using currently, that is on 15.04
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> hlh  you used w10 to create a windows bootable usb, right?
[14:51] <kwk> Kartagis what was your question
[14:51] <Kartagis> error while loading shared libraries: libc++.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <--- how do I fix this? http://stackoverflow.com/a/24162990/1384283 was applied (replacing 32 with 64)
[14:51] <Kartagis> kwk: ^
[14:51] <jushur> hlh: just make one and test it?
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> hlh  i still fail to see what ubuntu has to do with it
[14:53] <jushur> hlh: what are you running on the usb? linux will read most filesystems if you just install the proper package that supply support for them.
[14:54] <kwk> Kartagis: reading that now, taking a bit since im havin issues myself and gotta use w3m to read it, I don't use eclipse myself but let me think about it for a sec and see if I can suggest something
[14:54] <Kartagis> kwk: this is off CLI, I don't use Eclipse either
[14:57] <kwk> what command are you entering thats getting that error?
[14:57] <jushur> Kartagis: what package/software/command is it you installed that req this missing lib?
[14:58] <Kartagis> jushur: I'm trying to align an android apk
[14:58] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/uxGivdRi
[14:58] <hlh> i'm running a windows 7 iso formatted as fat32, but now that i'm trying to use another windows pc i have, apparently the iso needs to have the usb formatted as ntfs
[14:58] <BluesKaj> AlexPortable, sudo modprobe  -r e1000e , then sudo modprobe e1000e EEE=0
[14:59] <kwk> if you have the library in question installed already and wherever the command is looking isnt finding it it should just be a matter of adding a symlink
[14:59] <kwk> so if you know the package that contains that source file you could do dpkg -L <packagename> | grep <whatever> to find the actual location of the file and then ln -s <actual location> <place that command is looking>
[14:59] <pantato> quit
[14:59] <kwk> not sure if thats much of a help
[15:00] <AlexPortable> Blueking: ok what now?
[15:01] <AlexPortable> Blueking: i restarted network manager also but to no avail
[15:02] <jushur> Kartagis: you mean zipalign?
[15:02] <Kartagis> yes
[15:03] <jushur> Kartagis: and its the zipalign tool that spwes the error?
[15:03] <jushur> spwes/trows
[15:03] <Plone> hello
[15:04] <Plone> is it possible to create an smb share which allows one group read/write access and another group read only access?
[15:05] <EriC^^> Plone: yeah
[15:06] <Plone> the share works for read/write group, but when I create the second definition with the other group, then no one can access the share
[15:08] <jushur> Kartagis: i dont get how you can possible get that error? you not using the default repo installed tools?
[15:09] <jushur> Kartagis: i have a whole office using those tools. and no reports of any errors.
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> !info zipalign
[15:17] <Jakey3> Hi, im setting up nodejs in in a virtual machine on vbox, i have setup port forwarding 127.0.1.1:8080 to 10.0.2.15:80, I have run this application on node http://paste.ubuntu.com/15267292/
[15:18] <Jakey3> but i dont see able to see the application on the host when i curl http://APP_PRIVATE_IP_ADDRESS:8080
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> Jakey3: maybe the #vbox guys know?
[15:20] <akik> Jakey3: your ports don't match, 80 vs. 8080
[15:21] <Jakey3> akik, how should it be?
[15:21] <akik> Jakey3: from your paste, the daemon is listening on port 8080
[15:22] <Jakey3> ok, will take a look
[15:22] <akik> Jakey3: and you wrote that you made a forward to 10.0.2.15:80
[15:26] <__raven> two major problems with my desktop on 15.10 xubuntu: 1. startup only possible using kernel 4.2.0-18-gen in recovery mode. everything else switches off keyboard or leads to black screen. any idea?
[15:27] <__raven> 2: nvidia card needs closed driver because of full speed fan on built in nouveau. but i cannot save any settings so i have to edit dual head every startup. any idea?
[15:27] <Jakey3> akik,  curl http://127.0.1.1:80
[15:27] <Jakey3> curl: (7) Failed to connect to 127.0.1.1 port 80: Connection refused
[15:28] <akik> Jakey3: i meant that your application is listening on port 8080, not 80 as in 10.0.2.15:80
[15:29] <Jakey3> shouldnt the portf orwading translate it to from 127.0.1.1:80 to 10.0.2.15:80
[15:29] <Seveas> Jakey3: that depends on how you did the forwarding.
[15:29] <akik> Jakey3: is the application running on your virtualbox vm (IP 10.0.2.15) port 8080 ?
[15:30] <Jakey3> yes
[15:30] <akik> Jakey3: because _nothing_ in that case in answering from port 80
[15:31] <Jakey3> soryy it was a typo meant to be 127.0.1.1:8080
[15:31] <Jakey3> * from 127.0.1.1:80 to 10.0.2.15:8080
[15:31] <ghyronimo> hello i got a new laptop with nvme m2 ssd and i cannot find the drive on ubuntu live. how to recognize it?
[15:32] <k1l> ghyronimo: "sudo parted -l" in a pastebin please
[15:34] <ghyronimo> k11: it depends on the Cancel/Ignore choice. http://askubuntu.com/questions/729102/gparted-does-not-recognize-sata-m2  it shows only 1 drive max (usb key included)
[15:34] <akik> Jakey3: do you get any reply with "nc -v 127.0.1.1 80" ?
[15:34] <ghyronimo> parted is v3.2
[15:34] <Gustavo6046> hey guys :)
[15:34] <Gustavo6046> I can't really remember my Ubuntu password
[15:34] <Jakey3> nc: connect to 127.0.1.1 port 80 (tcp) failed: Connection refused
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> Gustavo6046  it was abc123
[15:35] <k1l> ghyronimo: can you please post the output to paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here?
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> Gustavo6046  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[15:35] <nightdemon666> need a command for ubuntu 14.04 to enable wireless networking. i disabled through the GUI, but would like to know the command to re-enable via comand line
[15:36] <k1l> ghyronimo: or better: run a "sudo lshw -C storage"
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> nightdemon666  rfkill
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> !info rfkill
[15:37] <Gustavo6046> what was abc123?
[15:37] <k1l> Gustavo6046: that was a joke
[15:37] <Gustavo6046> now it got back to installation dialog
[15:37] <k1l> Gustavo6046: wasnt you the guy with the server?
[15:37] <Gustavo6046> but I DID already install it
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> Gustavo6046  read the LostPassword link
[15:37] <Gustavo6046> no I didn't host a server
[15:38] <k1l> Gustavo6046: what are you doing?
[15:38] <akik> Jakey3: maybe iptables is blocking it? did you try connecting directly from your host to the guest ip?
[15:38] <Gustavo6046> I just started Ubuntu after returning from college
[15:38] <Gustavo6046> school*
[15:38] <Gustavo6046> I wanted to see if I could remember my password now
[15:38] <k1l> Gustavo6046: did you boot the install-cd/usb?
[15:39] <user___> Hi ,Why ubuntu when mounting a partition on hard disk the system does not ask password ? opensuse does
[15:39] <Gustavo6046> Idk where it installed Ubuntu tbh, but I booted the install CD as I though it would install in that drive
[15:40] <k1l> Gustavo6046: i dont understand what you are doing there at all. so you want to install ubuntu? why are you asking about a password then?
[15:40] <Gustavo6046> I did install Ubuntu
[15:40] <Gustavo6046> I don't know where it installed
[15:40] <Gustavo6046> I booted the install CD thinking it was there it installed
[15:40] <k1l> Gustavo6046: so why are you booting the cd then?
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> Gustavo6046  are you now in the live session (cd)?
[15:41] <k1l> Gustavo6046: so what happens when you boot the pc wihtou the cd?
[15:41] <Gustavo6046> after all, I used that ISO file as storage space in VirtualBox
[15:41] <k1l> Gustavo6046: so you did not install ubuntu at all onto your disks?
[15:41] <Gustavo6046> nope
[15:41] <Gustavo6046> I did not
[15:42] <Gustavo6046> I don't know where did Ubuntu install, the install CD is the only storage file I assigned to the VM
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> Gustavo6046  it's confusing, start from the beginning, what brings you here
[15:42] <k1l> Gustavo6046: you are making no sense
[15:42] <ghyronimo> k11: sorry for the delay http://paste.ubuntu.com/15267498/
[15:42] <k1l> Gustavo6046: you cant install ubuntu onto a cd
[15:42] <Gustavo6046> so basically I installed Ubuntu, using the installing CD (ISO file) as a storage space for VirtualBox's VM, but I want to know where did the installer install Ubuntu
[15:42] <user___> bye
[15:43] <akik> Gustavo6046: iso files are read only
[15:43] <k1l> ghyronimo: ok, try a "sudo lshw -C disk"
[15:43] <Gustavo6046> I used it as a IDE controller
[15:43] <Gustavo6046> the SATA controller is MyUbuntu.vdi but I don't know what SATA or IDE means
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> Gustavo6046  so you installed ubuntu from a cd, directly in the vm?
[15:44] <Gustavo6046> I saw it from the control panel of the VM, in Storage
[15:44] <k1l> Gustavo6046: ok, so you have no clue what you did at all. and you are searching now for things that never happend
[15:45] <ghyronimo> k11: ah there it is! http://paste.ubuntu.com/15267526/
[15:45] <gr33nbits> look on the vm settings on the tab storage should show you where it is
[15:45] <Gustavo6046> yep, I just booted the install ISO as a IDE controller, and used that vdi file as a SATA controller (though it is the default provided by VirtualBox)
[15:46] <k1l> ghyronimo: yes. opening "gparted" the gui program should let you be able to make partitions on that drive
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> Gustavo6046  send a screenshot of the vm's settings  http://imgur.com/
[15:46] <ghyronimo> k11: it gives me the same erroreous output as parted
[15:47] <k1l> ghyronimo: that error is about the usb drive. dont mind that
[15:47] <Gustavo6046> it's in Portuguese, I'm Brazilian
[15:47] <Gustavo6046> just a sec
[15:49] <user54541210> Hellow guys I was wondering if you could help me with updating my system regularly. I have Ubuntu 15.1 and everytime I update it says it can´t update because the update needs untrusted source or something like that. Does someone know how to fix this problem?
[15:50] <Gustavo6046> http://i.imgur.com/mfX0X7d.png
[15:50] <Gustavo6046> this is my config
[15:51] <nightdemon666> awesome, thank you MonkeyDust
[15:52] <gr33nbits> gustavo click myubuntu.vdi please to see the location
[15:52] <Demiurge> hi
[15:52] <Demiurge> im getting  E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fontconfig/fontconfig-config_2.11.1-0ubuntu7_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:67c:1562::16 80]
[15:52] <Demiurge> what do
[15:52] <Gustavo6046> gr33nbits: C:\Users\gusta_000.ACER\VirtualBox VMs\MyUbuntu\MyUbuntu.vdi
[15:54] <ghyronimo> k11: it freezes when i select a partition table to write but i guess it will be gpt at least
[15:55] <gr33nbits> gustavo so there's where the image is
[15:56] <Gustavo6046> gr33nbits, yes
[15:56] <Gustavo6046> what if I remove the IDE controller disk?
[15:57] <Gustavo6046> then only the SATA disk with Ubuntu will be loaded
[15:58] <gr33nbits> yes
[15:58] <gr33nbits> inside that virtualbox folder it's only virtual drives
[15:58] <gr33nbits> if you remove it, you have to install ubuntu again
[15:59] <Gustavo6046> what I meant is that the SATA file is that .vdi file, but right now I set the IDE to my disk drive :E (which loads when disks are put into the slot).
[16:00] <gr33nbits> yes you can remove it so it wont boot to cd 1st
[16:00] <gr33nbits> sorry multitasking
[16:00] <k1l> Gustavo6046: please ask that virtualbox questions what those settings and technics mean in #vbox
[16:01] <Gustavo6046> after I've inserted my password, it said "System problem found, report now?" I obviously reported.
[16:02] <Gustavo6046> It restarted very quick, and now I'll insert my pass again and see what happens.
[16:02] <Gustavo6046> Oh crap, again, "system program problem detected"!
[16:03] <hamudichi> test do you read?
[16:03] <Gustavo6046> I tried Ctrl+Alt+F1 to see the text interface for login. I insterted my password. But it says "login incorrect". Ubuntu is silly sometimes.
[16:03] <hamudichi> @Gustavo6046 make sure num-lock is on if your using that
[16:03] <Gustavo6046> I'm not using Num Lock
[16:04] <k1l> Gustavo6046: make a new install of ubuntu inside the virtualbox. and this time dont change the virtual disk settings
[16:04] <Gustavo6046> also I ain't very sure if it is the correct password (though it should be, after all It's the one I remember feeding the installer with, and the one I use everywhere)
[16:05] <Gustavo6046> but I don't remember the actual password that good, so I would like to reset it (once I've found what is the GRUB prompt in that password reset link)
[16:20] <dejavou42> on a known hacked ubuntu box, would it be concerning to find /sys/devices/virtual/tty/tty0/active (the timestamp is close to the time/date of the hack, and I'm trying to determine what was affected.
[16:39] <dragoonis> Trying to get my sound audio to work on my ubnuntu install - can someone run me thorugh getting it working please?
[16:45] <ubuntu-mate> Heyas , Morning ~~ just checking out the new mate Beta. I wass reading community website last nite and trying to adjust / fix my USB partitions. atm my 15gb usb is saying it has 64gbs lol?!? , i think its cause says 2046 instead of 512 or something... is there a alternative way that i can put the .iso onto my usb flashstick and be able to adjust the partition size so that I can make a casper-rw partition / file on it , or even
[16:45] <ubuntu-mate> just create a generic .txt file.. it seems its read only now or something after doing ddrescue to clone the beta iso .  can i like premake partitions and then just robocopy the files over to it and then install grub2 so its still a working livecd image that i can use to install onto my hd later but still be able to at least not have to run software updates everytime i boot up, id really like to be able to update and then reboot
[16:45] <ubuntu-mate> and have the updates take effect etc . what do u all do?
[16:45] <trunk_monkey> dragoonis: can you run aplay -l in terminal please
[16:45] <trunk_monkey> and let me know the output
[16:47] <ubuntu-mate> just installed 216mb on fresh usb ddrescue install and it asks me to reboot... there has to be a way to do it better then making a read only dd copy please? unetbootin doesnt work anymore right? . sorry for wall of text
[16:48] <opny> hello, do you know  a way to run xenial armhf in qemu?
[16:51] <Gallowglass> What is a good tool/method for managing files on a Linux(Ubuntu) server from a Linux desktop?
[16:52] <trunk_monkey> sshfs Gallowglass
[16:52] <lapyo> filezilla?
[16:52] <trunk_monkey> mount remote file system locally, and all encrypted over ssh
[16:53] <Gallowglass> Ah, okay. Is that the same as mounting it through File Manager?
[16:53] <Gallowglass> (in Ubuntu desktop)?
[16:54] <trunk_monkey> Gallowglass: you can make a symbolic link so that for example, you create a folder in your home directory called, "Server", you could mount the server / to that folder
[16:54] <trunk_monkey> so when you go to your home folder, and click server, you'll be seing the root of your server; it's really handy, and works great. Plus it's encrypted!
[16:54] <trunk_monkey> You can add the mount to your fstab so it mounts on boot and then it will be just like any other local folder
[16:55] <Gallowglass> Sounds like that's the route I'll want to go, thanks!
[16:55] <trunk_monkey> Gallowglass: this is a good guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-sshfs-to-mount-remote-file-systems-over-ssh
[16:55] <Gallowglass> Oh, nice!
[16:55] <trunk_monkey> if you can ssh to the server, you'll be able to mount to it. Make sure you can ssh first though! Cheers
[16:56] <Gallowglass> Cheers
[16:57] <Jakey3> how do i set my npm path o
[16:57] <Jakey3> ?
[16:59] <oubi> hi
[16:59] <oubi> what is this room all about?
[17:00] <baizon> oubi: support
[17:00] <ubuntu-mate> none of u peeps ever made a usb that isnt read only im guessing?
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: best to ask your real question to the channel
[17:08] <trunk_monkey> ubuntu-mate: I don't understand the question
[17:08] <ubuntu-mate> i did lotus.. it was that wall of text about 5min ago
[17:08] <ubuntu-mate> Heyas , Morning ~~ just checking out the new mate Beta. I wass reading community website last nite and trying to adjust / fix my USB partitions. atm my 15gb usb is saying it has 64gbs lol?!? , i think its cause says 2046 instead of 512 or something... is there a alternative way that i can put the .iso onto my usb flashstick and be able to adjust the partition size so that I can make a casper-rw partition / file on it , or even
[17:08] <ubuntu-mate> just create a generic .txt file.. it seems its read only now or something after doing ddrescue to clone the beta iso .  can i like premake partitions and then just robocopy the files over to it and then install grub2 so its still a working livecd image that i can use to install onto my hd later but still be able to at least not have to run software updates everytime i boot up, id really like to be able to update and then reboot
[17:08] <ubuntu-mate> and have the updates take effect etc . what do u all do?
[17:10] <asus> halo
[17:11] <new0> hi everyone, i am trying to hack my router with reaver 1.4 but it's not working getting: "WARNING: Failed to associate with essid (ESSID: "")
[17:11] <asus> ubuntu ch
[17:11] <morbid_ape> hi everyone, burn all jews in oven
[17:12] <morbid_ape> allahu akhbar
[17:12] <morbid_ape> death to infidels
[17:12] <morbid_ape> only muslims have a right to live
[17:14]  * Volund_ happydances
[17:16] <ubuntu-mate> i guessing still dont understand the question lol
[17:16] <Volund_> guess I'd better get up. my new case, video card, PS3, and SSDs are arriving today. gonna rebuild my everything
[17:17] <akik> ubuntu-mate: i guess it could be possible. try to find a doc which describes how you put grub on an usb stick
[17:17] <ubuntu-mate> solution is to go buy dvds , noone knows how to make a bootable Xenial usb that is Not readonly =(
[17:17] <jwash> hi everyone i've got 2 14.04 computers, one newer install one older. the newer serves ftp just fine, and my router sends ftp traffic to it based upon port forwarding with no problems. This was the case with my older install, but it won't receive the outside traffic anymore. The older install does recognize inbound traffic from within the local network. Where should I start to look for a solution?
[17:17] <ubuntu-mate> none of the docs on the ubuntu forums explain how to successfuly do it now that unetbootin doesnt seem to work
[17:18] <k1l> ubuntu-mate: you cant change the "error" on that usb without wiping all the data
[17:18] <Jakey3> how do set a path for pm2 on my ubuntu server setup?
[17:19] <ubuntu-mate> k1l: is there no way to make a writeable xenial iso? i can erase that error and start over
[17:20] <k1l> ubuntu-mate: use the ubuntu usb creator. or rufus on windows (but i dont know if rufus got that option to make it persistence)
[17:21] <ubuntu-mate> o nice, usb creator will let me adjust partitions etc after its done cloning? there is no option for persistence anymore
[17:22] <ubuntu-mate> when you use dd and ddrescue , you cant adjust the partition to make a casper-rw or even wtf.txt notepad file
[17:22] <k1l> ubuntu-mate: no. but you can set in the settings to make it persitent and how much space you want to use for that.
[17:22] <Jakey3> can someone explain how ireslove this issue https://github.com/Unitech/pm2/issues/1112, i dont understand the answer
[17:23] <ash_workz> not that this is a big problem or anything, but I accidentally did crontab -e and it won't let me cancel out of the "select an editor" prompt... why?
[17:23] <k1l> ubuntu-mate: yes, but using dd will always have that error about sector size, since the image is made with 2024 sectors.
[17:23] <ubuntu-mate> hrm are you using xenail? there is no persistent option anymore on the GUI, any idea what file would have the info i edit
[17:23] <k1l> i am not running xenial right now
[17:24] <ubuntu-mate> they took away that GUI box
[17:24] <ubuntu-mate> to make things simpler.. /boogle
[17:24] <genii> Why don't you just dd the image to one usb stick, then install it onto a second one
[17:24] <ubuntu-mate> doesnt that destroy your usb with read/writes I/O if you full install to us
[17:25] <ubuntu-mate> kinda like the whole install running from tmpfs's that the livecd has
[17:25] <ubuntu-mate> and forums dont have nada for info on getting kernel param toram=yes to work
[17:27] <linuxlove> i am going to grant permission to a user for upload files in /var/www/html how can i do that ?
[17:27] <dragoonis> Trying to get my sound audio to work on my ubuntu install - can someone run me through getting it working please? I looked at some online guides and can verify that my sound card has been recognised. When I go to "Sound" in the control panel area the VOLUME slides is right down the bottom and I cannot slide it up
[17:28] <linuxlove> i am going to grant permission to a user for upload files in /var/www/html how can i do that ?
[17:29] <Jakey3> what does echo 'prefix=/usr/local' > node/etc/npmrc mean?
[17:29]  * Volund has Ubuntu setup, now has to redownload Windows 10 and ready for install. oi
[17:30] <genii> Jakey3: It means write the text string of prefix=/usr/local into a file called npmrc which is in directory etc under local directory called node
[17:31] <Bashing-om> Jakey3: Will add the parameter " prefix=/usr/local ' to the file "  node/etc/npmrc " . Make sure that is what you want .
[17:31] <linuxlove> i am going to grant permission to a user for upload files in /var/www/html how can i do that ?
[17:33] <ubuntu-mate> =(
[17:35] <Volund> well today's going to be.... fun
[17:37] <Norbin> unattended 14.04.4 installation just hangs, any debugging that can be done somehow, to understand where it's stuck? i've followed the official guide / forums on how-to make the custom iso.
[17:37] <fathom> Hello, when I boot my computer I get a message that there is something wrong with my OS and offers to send a bug report, but it does not let me view what the report is. Moreover, my computer allows updates without being root. Is this a sign of a compromised OS?
[17:37] <Jakey3> can someone help me fix an issue that i have the same as this post
[17:37] <Jakey3> https://github.com/Unitech/pm2/issues/1112
[17:38] <dragoonis> In the Sound section -> the "Play sound through" box is empty. Although i ran some commands and it recognised that I have a sound card
[17:39] <bartosz_> hi
[17:39] <bartosz_> what is #$PATH? Please answer in simple words!
[17:40] <linuxlove> hello every body
[17:40] <bartosz_> hi
[17:41] <k1l> bartosz_: a variable where folders are mentioned where the shell looks for programs.
[17:41] <bartosz_> k1l what kind of programs? like steam for instance?
[17:41] <dragoonis> I just followed this online guide - and i no longer have a "Sound" option when looking in my system settings - http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[17:41] <k1l> bartosz_: do you have a specific issue?
[17:41] <Bashing-om> bartosz_: What is the context ?... is the '#" disabling parsing where exexutable files are located ?
[17:42] <linuxlove> i have created a group named webcontent how can i assign accessing to /var/www/html to members of this group ?
[17:42] <bartosz_> I'm still learning linux, and couldn't find quite simple answer on the Internet
[17:44] <k1l> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables   bartosz_ see this it got a  table for variables
[17:44] <linuxlove> i have created a group named webcontent how can i assign accessing to /var/www/html to members of this group ?
[17:44] <minitrue> lock
[17:44] <kirbo719> noob?: installed Xubuntu 14.04 LTS.  Learning the OS. Is there an install log I can view to ensure the install went well? Same when apps installed?
[17:45] <bartosz_> tnx
[17:45] <linuxlove> am i wasting my time here?
[17:45] <Volund> linuxlove: you need to research how users and groups work and what chown does.
[17:46] <Bashing-om> bartosz_: Learning : see -> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide . A great tutorial to learn bash ( and lots of things terminal ).
[17:46] <Volund> linuxlove: No, but you need to have some patience because not all of us are experts. the big pros aren't always on 24/7 you know. have some patience.
[17:46] <boxmein> kirbo719: there's a lot of different things happening during the installation, I'm fairly certain if you find logs to them all they won't be in a single file
[17:46] <bartosz_> thank you a lot Bashing-om
[17:46] <k1l> linuxlove: i think we are paste the state of handholding with you. you really need to learn things and not use this as a "give me the terminal commands quick" solution
[17:46] <bartosz_> i will
[17:46] <linuxlove> Volund, okay you are right
[17:47] <linuxlove> k1l, you are right
[17:47] <Bashing-om> bartosz_: :) A big help in that learning curve .
[17:47] <boxmein> kirbo719: application installs are logged in /var/log/dpkg.log and /var/log/apt/term.log, respectively for the dpkg backend and apt frontend
[17:47] <kirbo719> ok. tnx!
[17:47] <boxmein> kirbo719: boot logs are in "journalctl -b 0" where "-b 0" means that "only show me logs from this boot onward!"
[17:48] <boxmein> kirbo719: other than journalctl, just explore /var/log, tons of stuff there!
[17:48] <linuxlove> k1l, but i need to determine webcontent owner of /var/www/html directory
[17:48] <Volund> linuxlove: asking questions and being pointed in the right direction to do self-research instead of being handed the final answer teaches a lot more in the end, in my experience.
[17:49] <k1l> linuxlove: ls -l /path/to/folder
[17:49] <k1l> linuxlove: owner should be www-data
[17:49] <k1l> linuxlove: but you can set the user to be in the group www-data too
[17:50] <bartosz_> Bashing-om: doesn't work :C
[17:51] <bartosz_> Bashing-om: okay, now it's working
[17:51] <Volund> linuxlove: To explain a little about users and groups, files/folders can be OWNED by one user and BELONG to a completely different group, with different permissions for each. This is how you will handle shared permissions to hard drive locations: smartly employing users and groups. especially groups.
[17:52] <linuxlove> k1l, if i assign a user  to www-data group he just can access to /var/www/html?
[17:52] <Volund> linuxlove: I don't know the full details of how complex groups can get, mind. juist that I can add users to them. I dunno, can yo add groups to groups? go find out
[17:52] <Jakey3> does this look correct  sudo env PATH=$PATH:/opt/node/bin pm2  ?
[17:52] <Bashing-om> bartosz_: ? What was not working ??//// " not working" alone tells us nothing .,.. and we have nothing to base a troubleshooting procedure on .
[17:53] <linuxlove> k1l, i also need to assign write permission to that user just on /var/www/html
[17:53] <bartosz_> Bashing-om: URL had problems
[17:53] <k1l> linuxlove: yes
[17:53] <k1l> linuxlove: no
[17:53] <bartosz_> Bashing-om: sory, i thought i wrote fullbashguide
[17:54] <k1l> linuxlove: that webfolder should have owner and group set to www-data to be working with the webserver.
[17:54] <Bashing-om> bartosz_:  K .. Been a while since i accessed .. I did go back and verify at this time the link is still valid .
[17:54] <Fresh> I am trying to sync my iphone 6 with my music library on my ubuntu laptop. my mac battery recently crapped out and havent really been motivated to buy a new batt yet. Banshee just "erased" all the music from my phone and said it  loaded new music on but nothing shows on the phone. just the old music. when I go to play the old music it drops off my music list.
[17:55]  * Volund watches file transfer at a crawl.
[17:55] <bartosz_> Bashing-om: VALID, it was something for 2 mins; now it works
[17:56] <Volund> system-config-lvm is the best thing ever. graphical tool to aid understanding of this very complex concept.
[17:56] <Bashing-om> bartosz_: :) .. all good then .. happy bash'n .
[17:56] <bartosz_> thanks! bye
[17:56] <linuxlove> k1l, can he write to /var/www/html if he is in web-data group?
[17:57] <Volund> if you add <specific user> to www-data group and www-data group has write access to /var/www/html then yes. that's what groups do.
[17:57] <Volund> whether this is a smart thing to do, I dunno
[17:58] <k1l> linuxlove: www-data
[17:58] <k1l> linuxlove: details matter here
[17:58] <k1l> linuxlove: and yes, he can write then
[17:59] <linuxlove> k1l, excuse me for my less knowledge
[17:59] <Jakey3> how do i make export PATH=$PATH:/opt/node/bi persist ?
[17:59] <Jakey3> how do i make export PATH=$PATH:/opt/node/bin persist ?
[18:00] <sta7ic> Jakey3: possibly in .bashrc or .profile
[18:00] <linuxlove> k1l, i want to grant permission on just one directory /var/www/html to that user
[18:00] <Jakey3> sta7ic, can you explain me exactly ehat i need to do
[18:00] <Jakey3> please
[18:01] <linuxlove> k1l, i just need to grant write permission on that directory to a user
[18:01] <linuxlove> i am new to linux
[18:01] <Volund> linuxlove: I think you could chown -R /var/www/html <user>:www-data
[18:01] <Volund> but I dunno if that would break anything
[18:01] <k1l> linuxlove: yes. i told you 10 times now what to do.
[18:01] <k1l> Volund: no
[18:01] <k1l> Volund: put that user into www-data group.
[18:02] <Volund> k11: wouldn't that grant access to -everything-  www-data can acess? Unless this isn't a problem
[18:03] <Volund> linuxlove: spend some time researching how users, groups, and permissions works. it's rather valuable knowledge. I sure could afford to study more
[18:03] <k1l> Volund: that should be the /var/www/html folder for that group
[18:04] <linuxlove> k1l, usermod -aG www-data user is correct?
[18:05] <linuxlove> k1l, usermod -aG www-data user is correct?
[18:05] <k1l> linuxlove: sudo adduser user group
[18:05] <linuxlove> k1l, i have created user already
[18:05] <jeeves_moss> how do I load a device tree?  I don't have a /sys/devices/capemgr.*/slots/ directory
[18:06] <k1l> linuxlove: the command is called adduser. its simpler to use
[18:11] <Volund> nothing to do but wait for my new case and video card to arrive. sigh
[18:12] <Volund> k11: would you believe that adding 8tb drives to a computer would cause it to behave horribly slow and erratically?
[18:15] <daftykins> Volund: that's off topic here really, OS support only - chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic and more hardware topics can be had in ##hardware :)
[18:15] <daftykins> sounds like a buggy EFI though
[18:15] <linuxlove> k1l, i used  usermod -aG www-data user but user cant write to /var/www/html yet
[18:16] <Volund> daftykins: yeah. it's just, all last night, for 12 hours straight I was trying and trying to setup Linux on a 2x 8tb setup. kept wondering what i was doing wrong in Linux.
[18:16] <k1l> linuxlove: that user needs to logout
[18:17] <daftykins> Volund: so that's still chat, see the above channels.
[18:17] <linuxlove> k1l, i am using rsync in terminal user@myhost
[18:19] <k1l> linuxlove: that user needs to cut all connections and login again to make it work
[18:20] <linuxlove> do you mean that i need to restart ?
[18:21] <daftykins> no, log out
[18:25] <linuxlove> k1l, i get this error cp /home/mohsen/web.xml /var/www/html/
[18:25] <linuxlove> cp: cannot create regular file ‘/var/www/html/web.xml’: Permission denied
[18:26] <daftykins> you have to run that one with sudo...
[18:26] <kbrosnan> or add your user to the group that owns the folder
[18:26] <Aleksandar86> in this command "apt-get -y install proftpd"   what is "-y" ?
[18:26] <linuxlove> daftykins, mohsen is not in suders
[18:26] <daftykins> sudoers has nothing to do with this situation
[18:27] <daftykins> oh from that angle...
[18:27] <daftykins> meh, i don't think your experience level with Linux is enough to do anything that you mentioned you want.
[18:27] <daftykins> running a website when you can't get around file permissions is a huge warning sign
[18:27] <Aleksandar86> i try with this command install proftpd on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS but i had error
[18:27] <Aleksandar86> but without -y work good
[18:28] <Bashing-om> Aleksandar86: the "y" autoanswers to "yes" for the install prompt .
[18:28] <daftykins> Aleksandar86: an FTP server is more often than not a mistake. what is the use case? SFTP or SCP may be more appropriate and secure
[18:28] <Aleksandar86> Unable to fetch some archives
[18:29] <CacheMoney> SFTP ftw
[18:29] <Aleksandar86> i try apt-get update
[18:29] <linuxlove> daftykins, i dont want to put mohsen in sudoers
[18:29] <Aleksandar86> but again not working
[18:29] <daftykins> linuxlove: that's not the answer anyway.
[18:29] <Bailey831> hi guys
[18:29] <daftykins> Aleksandar86: don't use the enter key so quickly - and show an example of what's happening on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:30] <linuxlove> daftykins, you mean i need to leave any thing
[18:30] <Volund> bbiab, gonna try to install one of those 8tb drives again now that the SSD is handling running Linux
[18:30] <daftykins> linuxlove: that doesn't make sense
[18:32] <Aleksandar86> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[18:32] <Aleksandar86> cant install proftpd
[18:32] <Aleksandar86> i try apt-get update
[18:32] <linuxlove> daftykins, thanks it is better to help instead of things you say
[18:33] <Bashing-om> !info proftpd
[18:34] <Bashing-om> !info proftpd trusty
[18:34] <ioria> !info  proftpd-basic trusty
[18:35] <linuxlove> daftykins, you can just redirect people to learn
[18:35] <Egyptian[web]> howdy - i am trying to run sftp in a chroot environment. however the logs reply with subsystem request for sftp by user user failed, subsystem not found - i checked my sshd_config file and the file exists in /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server = what gives?
[18:35] <ioria> stange pkg
[18:35] <ioria> *r
[18:35] <Aleksandar86> what is good alternative for proftpd?
[18:35] <ioria> vsftp
[18:36] <Bailey831> How can I fix this error : [24097.717264] systemd-hostnamed[10602]: Warning: nss-myhostname is not installed. Changing the local hostname might make it unresolveable. Please install nss-myhostname!
[18:37] <Aleksandar86> sudo apt-get install vsftpd, again error: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?  How can i change fetch list?
[18:37] <Seveas> Bailey831: the answer is in the question :)
[18:37] <ioria> !info vsftp
[18:38] <ioria> !info vsftpd trusty
[18:38] <ioria> Aleksandar86, try vsftpd
[18:38] <Seveas> Aleksandar86: run apt-get update; pastebin the full output.
[18:38] <akik> Egyptian[web]: you can follow this guide for chroot sftp http://askubuntu.com/questions/49271/how-to-setup-a-sftp-server-with-users-chrooted-in-their-home-directories/49284#49284
[18:38] <Aleksandar86> i have ubuntu-14.04.4-server-amd64 LTS
[18:38] <daftykins> linuxlove: what do you mean 'direct to learn' ?
[18:38] <daftykins> *redirect
[18:39] <Egyptian[web]> akik: no worries i found the typo :D
[18:39] <Volund> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS this seems to be the solution. So installing Ubuntu on one of the 8tb drives isn't going to work, but I can still use them for STORAGE
[18:39] <Volund> now to figure out how to LVM this sucker again.
[18:40] <adeon_> Volund why wouldnt you be able to install on a 8TB?
[18:40] <Volund> adeon_: For some reason, when I use one of the 8tb drives for my Linux install in any capacity, the system begins to chug, halt, behave erratically, freeze when unpacking packages, etc. like, it will hang on 'unpacking libssl' for a half-hour
[18:41] <daftykins> adeon_: i would imagine it's due to Volund not being so familiar with 1) EFI 2) GPT 3) the bugs in the former that could prevent the system working right
[18:41] <Volund> daftykins: I'm using GPT!
[18:41] <Aleksandar86> ioria, Seveas, http://pastebin.com/e05HEp4H
[18:41] <daftykins> Volund: that's nice, that's one of 3 points
[18:41] <Seveas> Aleksandar86:   Could not resolve 'rs.archive.ubuntu.com'
[18:41] <ioria> Aleksandar86, your local repos down ?
[18:42] <Seveas> your resolv.conf is broken
[18:42] <Aleksandar86> how can change this adress?
[18:42] <adeon_> Volund have you tried to install a 64bit ubuntu+UEFI ?
[18:42] <ioria> Aleksandar86,  ping www.google.com
[18:42] <Seveas> Aleksandar86: you need to make sure you're using a working nameserver.
[18:42] <Volund> in any case, my solution appears to be installing Linux on a small SSD (256gb I'm afraid) and setting up the 8tb drives for storage. THAT appears to be working. adeon_ : I don't use anything BUT 64-bit and UEFI anymore
[18:42] <Volund> It's likely an issue with this Lenovo TS140
[18:42] <daftykins> no that's a workaround, not a solution
[18:43] <Volund> daftykins: point. Still acceptable to me, having Linux on an SSD is a plus.
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[18:43] <Aleksandar86> ioria i think my DNS not working
[18:43] <Aleksandar86> ping google.com not working
[18:43] <ioria> Aleksandar86,  here we are
[18:43] <Aleksandar86> :)
[18:43] <ioria> Aleksandar86,  ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[18:44] <Volund> is there a specific channel where we talk about nothing but LVM? I need to LVM geek at people and ask serious LVM questions
[18:44] <Volund> because wrapping my head around it is still taking some effort
[18:44] <Aleksandar86> i'm here nano -b /etc/network/interfaces
[18:44] <Aleksandar86> i need add dns
[18:44] <daftykins> !alis | Volund
[18:44] <Volund> oh that's handy
[18:45] <ioria> Aleksandar86,  dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8
[18:45] <daftykins> Volund: i think you should have updated the BIOS on that little microserver.
[18:45] <daftykins> did you check the version?
[18:45] <Volund> daftykins: I did.
[18:45] <Volund> it's on the latest and that didn't help at all.
[18:45] <daftykins> tell me exactly the version
[18:45] <Volund> uhhhhh. one second
[18:46] <Aleksandar86> ioria i do this, and i reboot ubuntu
[18:46] <Volund> I updated to B7A as seen on this page http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds036974
[18:46] <ioria> Aleksandar86, ok, you can just restart networking
[18:46] <daftykins> i know what's on the page, i want to hear it confirmed what's *on* there :)
[18:46] <Aleksandar86> which is better proftpf or VSFTPD?
[18:46] <daftykins> it looks like it's more designed for Windows Server to be honest.
[18:47] <daftykins> Aleksandar86: neither, FTP is ancient and insecure
[18:47] <Volund> daftykins: B7A is on there, I just updated it
[18:47] <Volund> and yeah it is. but hey I can get Ubuntu going
[18:47] <daftykins> and you reset to defaults after, as is best-practice?
[18:47] <ioria> Aleksandar86, like before, scp or sftp over ssh mybe a better idea ...
[18:49] <daftykins> Volund: hang on what media were you trying to install from...
[18:51] <ali__> hello
[18:51] <ali__> hello every body
[18:52] <goodfox> yes, hello
[18:52] <ali__> how do you do goodfox
[18:53] <daftykins> ali__: support only in here, no chat thanks
[18:54] <ali__> how are you spartis
[18:54] <ali__> hello isa
[18:54] <spartis> im good
[18:55] <isa_> hello tout le monde
[18:55] <ncx> hi ;)
[18:55] <k1l> ali__: for general talk please use #ubuntu-offtopic . we try to focus on technical ubuntu support in here.
[18:55] <ali__> where did you come from isa
[18:57] <ali__> hello Aristide
[18:58] <rahul__> km
[18:58] <ChrissM> Can somewhere help me about den keyboard config?
[18:59] <ali__> yann hi
[18:59] <nacc_> ChrissM: just ask your question, people will respond as they are able
[19:02] <ChrissM> So i have an German (Austria) Keyboard. I have config the keyboard on the terminal (sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration) and it was OK. But when i reboot the pc, it's lost the change.
[19:03] <bunjee> How do I get python version 3.2 or greater?
[19:03] <lapyo> apt-get install
[19:03] <bunjee> lapyo - I tried that - just got newest version 2.7
[19:04] <daftykins> likely it isn't available on the distro you have installed, in default repos
[19:04] <daftykins> !latest
[19:04] <nacc_> bunjee: what version of ubuntu?
[19:04] <nacc_> bunjee: you might need to install python3 rather than python
[19:04] <bunjee> kubuntu 14.4
[19:05] <genii> !info python3 trusty
[19:05] <daftykins> !info python3 trusty
[19:05] <daftykins> genii: ^5 ;D
[19:05] <genii> daftykins: Hehe
[19:05] <llwalahoop> Hi there! I'm planning to make a clean install and I'm curious to know what partitions would be good to have and what mount points to have. I'd like to make the home directory it's own partition.
[19:05] <daftykins> llwalahoop: / swap and /home, yeah.
[19:06] <nacc_> bunjee: so yeah, you can get python 3 via that package in your version
[19:06] <hspcd> I have an HP laptop with an Intel HD 4000 card in it and I keep getting booted out of my session back to the login screen (Ubuntu 15.10 Unity).  Anybody have any tips on diagnosing and resolving this?
[19:06] <seraphina> Hi, admittedly is not really an ubuntu specific question but does anyone happen to know would the SMART stats on a hard disk record errors due to a damaged SATA cable or does it only know about things internal to the drive?
[19:06] <nici_> witam
[19:06] <llwalahoop> daftykins: Is that really all? What about efi or boot?
[19:06] <daftykins> seraphina: what issues are you experiencing?
[19:06] <Volund> daftykins: hooray! I have setup LVM on one of the 8tb drives and am copying my big pile of data to it. yahoo. :D
[19:07] <NTQ> Hi. I am using Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 on my Thinkpad and I have plugged in an usb wlan stick. It seems that I can not connect it to a WLAN. There is no wlan1 or similar available. I want to connect it to an action camera with an extra route.
[19:07] <daftykins> llwalahoop: EFI would be relevant for an EFI system sure.
[19:07] <bunjee> nacc - got - python3 is already the newest version.
[19:07] <daftykins> separate /boot is a mistake
[19:07] <NTQ> Also I want to use the internal wlan0 for normal internet connection.
[19:07] <llwalahoop> daftykins: Ok, I have no idea what that efi means whatsoever
[19:07] <bunjee> nacc - asking for python --version - comes back with 2.7
[19:07] <daftykins> !efi | llwalahoop
[19:07] <daftykins> llwalahoop: you'll want to check what your system uses
[19:07] <ChrissM> Can somewhere help me? I have an German (Austria) Keyboard. I have config the keyboard on the terminal (sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration) and it was OK. But when i reboot the pc, it's lost the change.
[19:08] <daftykins> ChrissM: #ubuntu-de and #linux might be helpful.
[19:08] <llwalahoop> daftykins: How am I to do that? :) I can get to BIOS, I know that much.
[19:09] <seraphina> Oh, high number of read errors on a SATA HDD, found out that the connector had cracked on it they seem to have happened to go away since it was replaced a few weeks back but the SMART data records a high number of errors too so wondering if maybe the cable would have logged errors there too or if it's probably the drive is in a poor way at the same time.
[19:09] <daftykins> llwalahoop: read the above link.
[19:09] <llwalahoop> Sry!
[19:10] <daftykins> seraphina: share the SMART table of data in a http://paste.ubuntu.com if smartctl, or a screenshot on imgur.com
[19:10] <daftykins> i prefer smartctl -a /dev/sdx
[19:11] <bunjee> i'm trying to get the latest version of Gramps - needs python 3.2 or greater
[19:11] <seraphina> http://pastebin.com/UYXbTNi8
[19:11] <smamir> Firefox is eating up lots of RAM and slows down when I start watch youtube video. I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. Any ideas folks? :)
[19:12] <BikerMike> smamir you know what? I have noticed a huge slowdown as well when using FF on Ubuntu Trusty Tahr. Sometimes sites don't even get loaded
[19:12] <daftykins> you can't pin that on a browser
[19:12] <icefox234> hello?
[19:12] <icefox234> I have question about 16.04
[19:12] <daftykins> bunjee: i'd bet you need to run "update-alternatives
[19:13] <daftykins> icefox234: #ubuntu+1 for that.
[19:13] <icefox234> okay
[19:14] <smamir> BikerMike, It's maddening. I tested with playing 3-4 videos simultaneously in Firefox with Win7. Works like Breeze! btw I have 4gb ddr3 Ram
[19:14] <daftykins> are we talking about the HTML5 player?
[19:14] <seraphina> Good point there are so many potential points of failure that could cause pages not to load, would require a rather more comprehensive diagnostic to identify a cause with any degree of conclusiveness
[19:14] <BikerMike> wow good for you smamir, i happen to have half of your ram *self-pity*
[19:15] <smamir> daftykins, mostly yes. html5 player is default in new videos.
[19:15] <BikerMike> I'm also wondering why the Brightness bar doesn't seem to work? :(
[19:15] <daftykins> smamir: no, you won't get flash on supported ubuntu + firefox versions :)
[19:16] <daftykins> though i'd recommend avoiding it entirely regardless
[19:16] <daftykins> smamir: anyway next step would be your graphics hardware + driver, most likely
[19:16] <daftykins> BikerMike: clean install on a laptop, or?
[19:17] <BikerMike> daftykins side-by-side Win7
[19:17] <seraphina> Flash = ugly hack around HTML5 not being ready in time for when it was needed, now obsolete lol
[19:17] <daftykins> BikerMike: that doesn't mean anything to me
[19:17] <smamir> daftykins, yes it's html5 player. not flash. I just checked.
[19:17] <bunjee> daftykins - I'll try it
[19:18] <daftykins> seraphina: no, not even vaguely right. so - got that SMART data output to share?
[19:18] <seraphina> daftykins, heh, was just about to check with you if you had overlooked it
[19:18] <smamir> btw Chrome on ubuntu works just fine.
[19:18] <seraphina> daftykins, Here it is again http://pastebin.com/UYXbTNi8 :)
[19:18] <daftykins> ah you didn't highlight me with it, that's why.
[19:18] <BikerMike> Curious, does anyone have a newbie cheat sheet (or downloadable ebook) for CLI commands on Ubuntu Linux?
[19:18] <Multbrelch> Hi all. Topic is NFS -> On the server (Ubuntu 64Bit 14.04) I have installed nfs-kernel-server and nfs-common. I have prepared /etc/exports. Must the directory, that is shared, have a 777 permission and a specific user/group entry like 'nobody'?
[19:19] <daftykins> seraphina: since you've changed the cable, has table ID #197 continued to increment?
[19:20] <daftykins> seraphina: the problem with seagates is their SMART data is horrible, they increment all the 'error' fields when things are normal, so they can be very misleading.
[19:20] <seraphina> daftykins, 197 has been 0 when I've looked every time I think you mean 195?
[19:21] <daftykins> oh yeah sorry, typo.
[19:21] <virulent> Afternoon - I am trying to apply a patch to my kernel, reiser4 (I know I know but I am just experimenting with it). I did the patch -p1 < reiser4 kernel patch but when I go into make menuconfig its not there to select -- am I missing something?
[19:22] <seraphina> Yeah don't think it has gone up, is no more reports in the error longs since around 800 power on hours ago which is a little longer than the 780 hours the new SSD has been on which was installed at the same time as the new SATA cable
[19:23] <daftykins> seraphina: i'd just watch them all then, but yeah anything that persists would likely have been from the bad cable - see at the bottom where errors are recorded against power on hour? that'll be good to keep an eye on too.
[19:23] <seraphina> So seems like the SATA cable might have resolved it just wasn't sure if the drive would have been seeing errors that occured outside the drive
[19:24] <smamir> daftykins, my graphics driver is AMD graphics accelerator from fglrx. Do you think I should switch back to X.org driver?
[19:24] <seraphina> Though I suppose if the bad cable resulted in bad writes is possible that only got detected when it tried to read it later again possibly?
[19:25] <daftykins> smamir: well it'd be the open source radeon, i'd need more system info to even begin to consider if it'd be appropriate
[19:26] <daftykins> seraphina: a bad cable would cause ECC errors due to communication with the controller board on the drive.
[19:28] <smamir> daftykins, What sys info do you need?
[19:29] <smamir> This firefox freezing is killing me. I need a solution, and fast. :(
[19:29] <daftykins> smamir: what the graphics card is
[19:29] <daftykins> smamir: maybe don't watch 4 videos at once ;)
[19:30] <k1l> smamir: try without your plugins first
[19:30] <k1l> smamir: the privacy badger and such are known to cause lagging
[19:30] <Multbrelch> My Ubuntu box is a nfs server. Must the directory, that is shared with a client, have 777 permission, and must it have a special user:group name?
[19:31] <daftykins> 777 is never right
[19:31] <seraphina> daftykins, Ah ok I thought that it could be that thinking that the drive might have record of it since the SATA controller probably sends a message back saying no good try again but wanted to be sure
[19:33] <smamir> daftykins, Firefox on ubuntu freezes with just one video. :v Myu gfx card is amd radeon 6450 1gb dd3
[19:34] <daftykins> that card has reached legacy status in recent releases
[19:34] <llwalahoop> daftykins: Thanks! I think I know know which one I'll use.
[19:34] <Multbrelch> daftykins, I know this is why I'm asking since I found it on the regular Ubuntu page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[19:34] <jmadero1> how do I go about uninstalling something that failed to install - I keep getting suggestions to run "sudo apt-get -f install" but that fails also
[19:34] <daftykins> that's a community guide.
[19:34] <jmadero1> I'd like to just purge the package but it's telling me that apt-get is screwed up
[19:35] <daftykins> try sudo dpkg -r <package>
[19:35] <daftykins> but we'd need to see the actual output first-hand.
[19:35] <smamir> daftykins, Can you explain? What's a legacy status?
[19:35] <Multbrelch> daftykins, so, I should not consider these pages?
[19:36] <jmadero1> dpkg doesn't accept wilds?
[19:36] <daftykins> jmadero1: like what
[19:36] <daftykins> jmadero1: as i said, pastebin what's happening.
[19:36] <jmadero1> sudo dpkg -r libreoffice*
[19:36] <daftykins> no use packages.
[19:37] <daftykins> smamir: did you say you're on 14.04?
[19:37] <jmadero1> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/i7jZrnBH
[19:37] <jmadero1> it's hard to tell what package I need to remove
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[19:38] <bunjee> daftykins - update alternatives did not work
[19:38] <jmadero1> I did
[19:38] <jmadero1> thus the -f ;)
[19:38] <daftykins> bunjee: did you even see it list different python versions? or is this a "i don't know how to use it" kind of "did not work" ?
[19:38] <seraphina> Hmm, this talk about graphics cards reminds me actually when I did this ubuntu install I ended up having to use the mini iso installer since it's text mode, the live CD with the open source driver causes the screen to freeze as soon as it attempts to take over on the Nvidia GTX 760.  The nvidia drivers work fine once the system is installed but just wondering if there is some simpler workaround that going with the mini ISO that I overlooked for nex
[19:38] <seraphina> t time?
[19:39] <daftykins> jmadero1: were you actually trying to update an existing libre office to that on a PPA you added, or?
[19:39] <jmadero1> yeah I was - I went from 5.0 ppa to 5.1 ppa
[19:39] <daftykins> seraphina: what version? things have changed a lot.
[19:39] <sruli> i need some help with systemd, i am trying to run a script on shutdown/reboot but it doesnt work, at the moment all the script has is "rm -rf /path/to/dir" my job.service file http://paste.ubuntu.com/15269452/ i enabled the service, i dont know why its not working, can someone please help
[19:39] <daftykins> jmadero1: strikes me that you didn't prepare well enough to go from one to the other then.
[19:39] <smamir> daftykins, Yes I'm on 14.04. And I just found out what legacy status means. :)
[19:40] <jmadero1> none the less, does apt-get really freeze me out of uninstalling when an install goes bad? that's dysfunctional
[19:40] <seraphina> daftykins, The one on the 15.10 live CD not sure which version the live system is running such would kinda require the live CD to become interactive before it promply freezes the screen :(
[19:40] <bunjee> daftykins - I'm new at this - probably the latter
[19:40] <daftykins> jmadero1: no, you screwed it up.
[19:41] <jmadero1> again, the point is that it shouldn't prevent me from uninstalling....even if I did something wrong
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[19:41] <jmadero1> also it shouldn't prevent me from installing different packages
[19:41] <daftykins> jmadero1: "dpkg -l | grep libre" would show what situation everythign is in.
[19:41] <daftykins> jmadero1: it doesn't, again you're just not too hot on package management as we've seen before
[19:41] <Jordan_U> sruli: When you last asked I pointed you to the documentation on default dependencies and suggested you try asking in #systemd. Is there any reason you didn't ask in #systemd?
[19:42] <bunjee> daftykins - what happens if python is removed?
[19:42] <sruli> Jordan_U: it was very lonly being the olny person in #systemd ;-)
[19:42] <seraphina> Bailey831, Possible am just wondering if there is some simpler workaround that I should bear in mind for future reference just in case I encounter the same problem again
[19:42] <daftykins> bunjee: you no longer have python.
[19:42] <bunjee> daftykins - can I reinstall it?
[19:42] <seraphina> Bailey831, And/or if I ever have need to make use of the liveCD to do something which at the moment pretty much is an impossibility
[19:43] <daftykins> bunjee: share what you saw running update-alternatives.
[19:43] <Jordan_U> sruli: You were never the only person in #systemd, and you didn't even try asking (or at least you only asked before I entered the channel, and haven't asked again since).
[19:44] <daftykins> bunjee: look at the #1 google result for this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/320996/make-default-python-command-to-use-python-3
[19:44] <tinyalpha> hello all hows ubuntu
[19:44] <bunjee> daftykins - I'm in the process of removing python and it looks like I'll have lost a lot more that that....
[19:44] <sruli> Jordan_U: oops i must have mis typed systemd when i tried to join yesterday, in now
[19:44] <sruli> tnx
[19:45] <Jordan_U> sruli: You're welcome :)
[19:45] <daftykins> bunjee: that was really silly.
[19:45] <bunjee> daftykins - yes I'm seeing that
[19:46] <Jordan_U> sruli: Remember to start by explaining your end goal (clear /var/log/ before shutdown).
[19:46] <sruli> Jordan_U: will do thanks
[19:47] <seraphina> Course I know ultimately doubt it's Ubuntu at fault with the driver issue really being a fairly recent card and Nvidia's insistence on making their cards a million times harder to support than they need be
[19:48] <hugo> quit
[19:48] <hugo> #quit
[19:48] <daftykins> seraphina: it's the open source driver nouveau trying to work with the cards and not doing so well most likely, once 16.04 is out a lot of things should be easier
[19:48] <virulent> If I upgrade to 4.4 mainline off the ubuntu site, will "dpkg -i" apply my old configuration files and such or do I have to do it myself?
[19:48] <user54541210> guys does someone know how to fix the message "unrestricted..." update problem on Ubuntu 15.1?
[19:48] <cristal_> Hey. I am sharing the connection from a ethernet interface to another, using the NetworkManager. Everything works fine, but I'd like to have a finer control on the DHCP. WHere are the configs for such?
[19:48] <nacc_> bunjee: sorry, was otp -- might need to be python3 (the executiable you invoke), as python3 isn't the default until 16.04 (iirc)
[19:49] <cristal_> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.3.
[19:49] <daftykins> virulent: manually installing packages only has relevance to what kernel you run when you've installed drivers and such - but why are you installing a mainline kernel?
[19:50] <virulent> daftykins: well I am just trying to patch my kernel for reiser4, I am on the 4.2.0 kernel now and theres no 4.2.0 patch.
[19:50] <daftykins> oh that was you.
[19:50] <virulent> It was?
[19:50] <daftykins> yeah, not a topic i can help with
[19:50] <bunjee> nacc - read this   python --version
[19:50] <bunjee> Python 2.7.6
[19:51] <daftykins> python3 --version ...
[19:52] <seraphina> daftykins, Presumably I think so yes, seems like it is sending the card a bad command and causing the GPU to lock up or otherwise become unresponsive I think, well either a bad command or the wrong command at the wrong time when the GPU isn't in the proper state for it to execute it.
[19:52] <nacc_> bunjee: right, that's why i said run python3 ?
[19:52] <daftykins> seraphina: that sounds like a serious guess.
[19:52] <bunjee> nacc - this is waht I got back python3 --version
[19:52] <bunjee> Python 3.4.3
[19:53] <nacc_> bunjee: right, so there you are :)
[19:53] <daftykins> bunjee: so exactly the same as my link...
[19:54] <daftykins> i.e. the #1 google result on how to pick which python...
[19:54] <baDasS> Oops!
[19:54] <bunjee> nacc - I uninstalled python as root - looks like I removed a lot of programs - true?
[19:54] <Aleksandar86> I need help...is posible upload file on remote server Ubuntu with putty ssh from Windows?
[19:55] <Pici> bunjee: why did you do that?!
[19:55] <streulma> hello, in Ubuntu via Details there is Default Applications, how can I add a custom application to this list ?
[19:55] <zdenda> vcl
[19:55] <bunjee> daftykins - I couldn't even open that link up - ctrl tap the link - nothing
[19:55] <Pici> bunjee: you've likely completely hosed your system if you removed python.
[19:55] <daftykins> riiiiight.
[19:56] <seraphina> daftykins, Possibly though a couple of times it happened doing a soft reset left corruption artifacts behind easily fixed by a hard reset though kinda seems like it's triggered a hardware error to me but fair enough I am not exactly the worlds leading expert on low level GPU internals lol
[19:56] <bunjee> Pici - so how can I "unhose" it?
[19:56] <Pici> bunjee: reinstall.
[19:56] <Jordan_U> bunjee: Yes. You probably want to "sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop" to be sure you have everything that's supposed to be in a default Ubuntu install.
[19:56] <bunjee> Pici: fresh from scratch - I'd lose all my stuff?
[19:57] <Pici> bunjee: Jordan_U's suggestion might work, but you just removed a key system component.
[19:57] <seraphina> Just don't really see how a software error in say the kernel or x would survive even a soft reset of the CPU though, a hardware error on the GPU side possibly :s
[19:57] <nacc_> bunjee: yes, that's a bad idea
[19:58] <bunjee> nacc: what's a bad idea?
[19:58] <nacc_> bunjee: removing python
[19:58] <bunjee> nacc: yes - I'm dead now!
[19:58] <Jordan_U> Pici: I figure if bunjee had removed the version of python needed for anything too critical (like preventing apt from working) apt-get would have complained very loudly.
[19:59] <sourav> ...
[19:59] <nacc_> Jordan_U: i believe it did ("looks like I removed a lot of programs")
[20:00] <nacc_> Jordan_U: which to me implies bunjee had to agree to the removal of said programs :)
[20:00] <Pici> bunjee: python2 and python3 can, and do coexist on Ubuntu. You don't and should not uninstall one to use the other. You shouldn't point the 'python' exectuable at python3. Everything assumes that 'python' is python2 and 'python3' is python3
[20:00] <seraphina> Though the GPU is practically the core of a computer system in and of itself complete with it's own processor, RAM, interfaces etc
[20:00] <bunjee> Pici: I lost my terminal now
[20:01] <sourav> :)
[20:01] <Pici> bunjee: yes, like I said you should salvage your data using a livecd and then reinstall.
[20:01] <sruli> Jordan_U: i managed to sort my problem, have another issue will ask on systemd
[20:03] <bunjee> ici: how do I get terminal back?
[20:03] <bunjee> Pici:
[20:03] <seraphina> Anyways thanks for the help guess will find out in a few months if the 16.04 live CD will play nice with my card heh
[20:04] <user54541210> no one?
[20:04] <Pici> bunjee: how did you lose it?
[20:04] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | seraphina Keep in mind
[20:04] <user54541210> it may be a basic question, but I really investigated on the internet an nobody give a real solution
[20:05] <Pici> user54541210: please restate your question.
[20:05] <bunjee> Pici: I guess by uninstalling python
[20:05] <user54541210> When the update windows pop-ups it says that the update needs untrusted packages and then it ends the update process
[20:06] <Pici> bunjee: You might be able to use your ttys, ie.e ctrl-alt-f1.
[20:06] <Elw3> Hey there, what is a quick way to set the language of the automatic spell checker? The one active in gtk i think.
[20:06] <user54541210> I can figure out why this happen and how to fix it
[20:07] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Maybe best to show where that advisory oringinates. What does ' sudo apt upfare ; sudo apt upgrade ' look like ?
[20:07] <Pici> user54541210: please run a    sudo apt update     from a terminal
[20:07] <bunjee> Pici: do not understand ttys, ie.e ctrl-alt-fl...........
[20:08] <Pici> bunjee: press ctrl-alt-F1 on your keyboard to get to your vttys.  use ctrl-alt-F7 to get back to your gui.
[20:08] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Typo apt upfare/update *
[20:08] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Hmm I think I gave that one a try but will bear it in mind since I'm not 100% certain on that.  Though on one or two occasions I tried X did start up and (temporarily) had a non frozen screen which makes me suspect the problems might be after the modesetting happens, isn't modesetting the part where it sets the resolution etc?
[20:08] <dartlen> 1
[20:08] <dartlen> есть кто русский знает?
[20:08] <sourav> +i
[20:08] <dartlen> не могу в виртуалке разрешение нормальное поставить 640 не больше
[20:09] <Pici> !ru | dartlen
[20:09] <Bashing-om> seraphina: "nomodeset" disables DKMS, such that the fall back default graphic's driver is loaded .
[20:10] <user54541210> Bashing-om: ok Ill try that inmediatly give me a sec please
[20:11] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Ok thanks will keep a note of that with my copy of the live CD just incase, got a working installed system on the HDD for now and don't have an immidiate need for the live CD so best not to try and fix what isn't broken for now I guess :)
[20:13] <user54541210> Pici: I just try "sudo apt-get update" and the message keeps being the same
[20:13] <Bashing-om> seraphina: Uh huh ! If it aint broke, do not fix .. 'nomodeset' is a temporrary thing 'till ya get a driver installed .
[20:13] <Jordan_U> bunjee: If you can't get to a terminal currently then please come back from a LiveCD/USB. I *might* be able to help you get your system back without re-installing by using chroot.
[20:15] <Bashing-om> !paste | user54541210 Please show us
[20:15] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Least there is the mini ISO if ever needing to reinstall if I can't get the GPU and the live CD to share the playground heh
[20:15] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: Small matter of semantics, but nomodeset disables KMS (Kernel Mode Setting), not DKMS (Dynamic Kernel Module Support) (which, since it's almost exclusively used for proprietary drivers, is actually generally used along with nomodeset).
[20:16] <user54541210> Ok, give me a few minutes please
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Thanks .. yeah .. a matter of mind slippage . seraphina sorry bout that .
[20:16] <streulma> How can I add a custom application to the Default Applications list of Ubuntu ?
[20:18] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Heh no worries actually had to look back and check when it was pointed out seems that I filtered out the extra D automatically when I read it the first time lol
[20:21] <Algebr> I have two harddrives, one is a big 2TB disk and the other is a small 256GB SSD. I accidentally installed / on the 2TB when I wanted it on the 256GB SSD. How can I swap these now from the command line, permanently.
[20:21] <seraphina> Guess because I knew that DKMS had something to do with compiling kernel addon modules like the nvidia driver and x-tables etc which didn't seem relevant to the bootup sequence lol
[20:22] <Algebr> is this a job for fstab?
[20:22] <genii> Algebr: Did you make the partition size on the 2TB smaller than 256GB ?
[20:23] <Algebr> I picked whatever the default installation was
[20:23] <genii> So probably much larger. Rules out using dd
[20:23] <seraphina> That would be a no then, defaults to use the entire disk, easiest would be to just reinstall onto the SSD and go from there.
[20:23] <Algebr> damnit
[20:24] <genii> Algebr: It can be done from a livecd/usb but you're better off just reinstalling, will be faster and less hassle
[20:25] <sruli> how do i stop networking from starting automatically? in /etc/init/ i created networking.override network-manager.override and network-interface.override all have "manual" in it, but the network services still start on boot, what else do i need to do? (ubuntu 15.10)
[20:26] <seraphina> I'm right in thinking that it's not something you could get by with cp -Ra on there yes? With the special files and such to deal with.
[20:26] <nici_> witam
[20:27] <nici_> mam mały problem
[20:27] <nici_> ma ktoś chęć chwilę pogadacc?
[20:27] <genii> sruli: sudo systemctl disable <servicename-here>
[20:27] <genii> !pl | nici_
[20:29] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Still with us ? Pastebinit usage problem ?
[20:29] <sruli> genii: that disables, i dont want to disable just stop it starting automatically, if i disable and then enable i will need to disable again before shutdown
[20:30] <genii> sruli: Thats what disabling it does, prevents it from starting automatically
[20:31] <seraphina> That's what had me deciding to reinstall this box a few weeks back actually, finally after pretty much forever got around to getting myself a 1TB Samsung EVO 850 and making the SSD upgrade heh
[20:31] <user54541210> yes give me a sec
[20:31] <user54541210> sorry
[20:32] <Dr-007> good evening. i cant boot into my fresly installed ubuntu installation. i disabled secured boot in my bios. its an eufi type of ..? bios/bootloader
[20:32] <Dr-007> ive installed it like 4 times now trying different things
[20:32] <user54541210> Bashing-om: give me two minutes, for the message to pop-up
[20:32] <Dr-007> so any pointers would be great
[20:34] <sruli> genii: if i disable it, how do i then start it manually without enabling it so it doesnt start on next boot
[20:35] <seraphina> sruli, service networking start
[20:35] <sruli> seraphina: let me try that
[20:36] <user54541210> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15269765/
[20:38] <juanan> hola a todos
[20:39] <user54541210> Bashing-om: and the pop-window is this
[20:39] <user54541210> Bashing-om: http://imgur.com/VZodwCX
[20:39] <seraphina> sruli, Sorry if you already mentioned this earlier but is there some specific issue you are encountering that makes you want to delay the start of the networking service?
[20:39] <juanan> hola a todos de esta sala
[20:39] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Look'n at your links ..
[20:40] <user54541210> Bashing-om: thank you very much
[20:40] <sruli> "systemctl disable networking" i get error paste.ubuntu.com/15269788
[20:40] <msev-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnk36OnZpSo another take on "convergence" (lol at the chinglish)
[20:40] <sruli> seraphina: not encountering a issue but only want it to start after i run some scripts
[20:41] <sruli> genii: seraphina: "systemctl disable networking" i get error paste.ubuntu.com/15269788
[20:41] <seraphina> sruli, Are those overrides you tried to make before still present?
[20:42] <sruli> seraphina: no i deleted them
[20:42] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Without the checking what is : Do you fully trust this source " download.01.org " ??
[20:43] <seraphina> Try systemctl daemon-reload, then try the disable command again
[20:43] <user54541210> Bashing-om: I really dont know, I havent touch anything in regard with the download sources. How can I fix this?
[20:45] <sruli> seraphina: same error
[20:45] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Well ,, we can tell the system to trust that source - I will not say it is a good thing to do . Maybe check it out and see what it is ?
[20:46] <user54541210> Bashing-om: mmm I understand. What about setting everything as it came originally, can this be done?
[20:46] <sruli> seraphina: just to make sure i ran "systemctl daemon-reload" i did not replace daemon-reload with anything
[20:46] <seraphina> Yes that's right
[20:46] <seraphina> Hmm, Bashing-om you happen to know the command to check what services are currently enabled in systemctl
[20:47] <sruli> seraphina: still same error
[20:47] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Yeah, we can remove extranious sources .. pastebin ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[20:47] <seraphina> Just want to be sure since those messages are "only" warnings it doesn't actually say it that it failed give me a minute
[20:48] <sruli>  seraphina: i did test, reboot and service was still runniung
[20:48] <designbybeck_> My Windows will not resize via the corners or Alt resize...they still maximize and minimize, but not resize. Any Ideas?
[20:48] <user54541210> Bashing-om: I just run both commands
[20:48] <user54541210> Bashing-om: do you want to see the output in the terminal?
[20:48] <designbybeck_> well gee...nevermind....now resizing is working
[20:49] <seraphina> sruli, You already tried rebooting since you ran the systemctl disable networking you mean?
[20:49] <sruli> yes
[20:50] <user54541210> Bashing-om: probably due to this problem, my wifi and graphic card are not working properly. For example the wifi symbol at the top right corner does not appear and when I play Dota2 in medium-low resolution I have a lot of fps lag
[20:51] <user54541210> Bashing-om: even after running your commands, the problem still persists
[20:52] <seraphina> sruli, Did you try to systemctl disable NetworkManager also?
[20:52] <Bashing-om> seraphina: Sorry, I am not up to that speed yet with systemd . Presently, do not know of a single command for all running services .
[20:54] <sruli> seraphina: i tried netwrok-manager same error will truy NetworkManager now
[20:55] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Show us the outputs. so we can see what your sources are .. ' pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit ' . Then we can discuss what should be done .
[20:55] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Yeah I'm in the same boat myself it's output there is not helping me much either though is kinda ambiguous if it did the job or not
[20:55] <sruli> seraphina: that removed systemd symlinks, but i also want to stop the interface from starting, will disabling NetworkManager also disable interface?
[20:55] <user54541210> Bashing-om: perfect give me a sec please
[20:56] <sruli> seraphina: that seemed to work, thanks, will try starting it now and see if its still disabled form starting on next boot
[20:57] <Bashing-om> seraphina: My go-to : https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units . for starters .
[20:57] <user54541210> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15269865/ and https://paste.ubuntu.com/15269869/ respectively
[20:57] <seraphina> sruli, well if I am right and it is disabling it and only warning about the non default runlevels in the init script then I believe so, there is two things that can configure interfaces in ubuntu if-up-down and network manager those commands should have disabled both at bootup
[20:57] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Thanks
[20:57] <Bashing-om> user54541210: K, be back on a bit ... look'n .
[20:57] <user54541210> Bashing-om: thank you very much
[20:59] <sruli> seraphina: i checked ifconfig and only lo interface was up, i am ok with that, and after starting it, it was still disabled after next reboot, so all good now, thanks for ur help
[20:59] <seraphina> sruli, No problem glad I could help
[20:59] <matt_____> hi i have a question. im trying to install ubuntu server iso file onto virtual box. im stuck at a point where its asking me to "enter an ip address to scan for iSCSI targets" but i cant figure out what to type there?? HELP?
[20:59] <linuxlove> hello
[21:00] <Bad_Dream> d
[21:01] <drac0666> I have made udev rule to start custom script when i plugin my mouse, rule works cuz script is getting runned but part of my script doesnt affect mouse... this part "xinput set-prop "Logitech Gaming Mouse G400" "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 2.6"
[21:01] <drac0666> when i run script manualy it work perfectly
[21:01] <drac0666> some1 can help me fix this?
[21:01] <Bashing-om> user54541210: " https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/15.10/main " I do trust that source ( Intel ) // However, I know little about Intel graphics, maybe best to await someone with Intel experience to advise on your graphics issue before we make that source permenant and trusted . I see nothing else you would want to remove as a source .
[21:02] <seraphina> sruli, For reference however things like running scripts before certain interfaces are started and similar advanced customisation can be accomplished by if-up-down configuring the network with the /etc/network/interfaces file, check man interfaces
[21:03] <jancoow> Hi there. I'm trying to create a sftp user with limited acces (stay in home dir etc.). It kinda work, but when i set it on the wanted directory (/mnt/hdd1/Websever) i can't connect anymore. But when i set it on /mnt/hdd1 it works and i can navigate to Webserver
[21:03] <user54541210> Bashing-om: perfect and what about the untrusted pop-windows? I can I get rid of it?; cause that windows avoid my laptop to be update
[21:03] <jancoow> I think it's some kind of permission problem but i'm not sure. Does someone have an idea? I'm running ubuntu server
[21:03] <user54541210> Bashing-om: so Im afraid that I can start having vulnerabilities in the short term
[21:04] <Ben64> jancoow: how are you trying to set it
[21:05] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Yeah fixable ... but I suggest to see what can be done about your graphics issue as " not trusted " is from that Intel source " download.01.org/ " .
[21:08] <ChameleonSix> Hello
[21:08] <ChameleonSix> Can anyone help me
[21:08] <jancoow> Ben64: with sudo usermod username -d path/to/dir
[21:08] <ChameleonSix> i just installed ubuntu 15.10
[21:08] <ChameleonSix> it says grub>
[21:08] <ChameleonSix> how do i boot from that
[21:08] <jancoow> ChameleonSix: Isn't ubuntu listed in grub ?
[21:08] <ChameleonSix> hmm no
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> it just says grub >
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> like command line
[21:09] <genii> Jakey3: They have interactive grub command prompt
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> no gui
[21:09] <jancoow> then there is something wrong with your bootloader
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> what do i type in to boot
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> ?
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> no
[21:09] <Bashing-om> user54541210: ' sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver  keyserver.ubuntu.com A496EB03894A3A8D ' Will tell the system to trust that source ..
[21:09] <genii> oops tab fail
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> i switched to legacy
[21:09] <Jakey3> genii, what you referring to?
[21:09] <jancoow> ChameleonSix: long time ago for me, i will search it. Something with root xxx
[21:10] <ChameleonSix> ?
[21:10] <ChameleonSix> how do i fix it
[21:10] <genii> Jakey3: The message was meant for jancoow, sorry
[21:10] <drac0666> I have made udev rule to start custom script when i plugin my mouse, rule works cuz script is getting runned but part of my script doesnt affect mouse... this part "xinput set-prop "Logitech Gaming Mouse G400" "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 2.6", I have to run script manualy to get it work after replug my mouse. Please help me fix it
[21:10] <linuxlove> who is familiar with android studio here?
[21:10] <ChameleonSix> tab for avalible commands
[21:10] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Thanks for trying to help also guess I'll get a handle on systemd eventually just takes time to relearn everything all over again when the wheels get reinvented heh
[21:10] <jancoow> ChameleonSix: have a look at https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/776643-how-to-rescue-a-non-booting-grub-2-on-linux/
[21:10] <ChameleonSix> gnu grub 0.97
[21:11] <ChameleonSix> can anyone aid me please
[21:11] <ChameleonSix> ?
[21:11] <jancoow> ChameleonSix: Check the link i send. If you booted up you could try reinstalling grub
[21:11] <Jakey3> genii, np
[21:11] <ChameleonSix> ?
[21:11] <Bashing-om> seraphina: That is an understatement . Systemd is what is and will be ,,, we will have to learn it .. just another step on that learning curve .
[21:11] <ChameleonSix> hmm ok
[21:12] <zztopless> Hi everyone, got a quick and (hopefully) straightforward question.  I need a way to point localhost (mostly for use in the browser) to another local IP.  In windows I'd use the hosts file, bit of a beginner idiot in ubuntu (mint kde to be precise)
[21:12] <zztopless> and advice would be appreciated :)
[21:13] <ChameleonSix> k cya
[21:13] <ChameleonSix> tnx
[21:13] <Bashing-om> ChameleonSix: " gnu grub 0.97 " is very old ! What release did you attempt to install ?
[21:14] <Ben64> jancoow: that doesn't keep someone in their directory
[21:15] <shlant> anyone know a workaround for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glusterfs/+bug/1382989
[21:16] <shlant> fuse-utils doesn't exist on 14.04
[21:16] <jancoow> Ben64: That's true. For keeping someone in their directory i created a sftp-group and added some configurations to the opensll config file
[21:16] <Mathisen> hello why cant i resize this partition " http://imgur.com/arZCLNR " ??
[21:16] <jancoow> Ben64: but when a set a users home in /mnt/samba/webserver it works, but when i set it in /mnt/samba/webserver/Projects it doesn't work (can't connect anymore)
[21:17] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Very true will get the hang of it eventually but yeah it is like starting from the beginning again, heh then wouldn't be the first time a software shift has left me feeling like a n00b all over again lol
[21:17] <riu> hello
[21:17] <Bashing-om> seraphina: Upstart did me a number .. going from inittab .
[21:18] <Ben64> jancoow: compare permissions between those two directories
[21:19] <propman> Mathisen,  looks like you are using that partition right now.  need to boot a live dvd/usb and then run gparted from it to resize
[21:19] <riu> ich habe keinen ton beim raspberrz pi2 ist das normal
[21:19] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Yeah it is confusing didn't help much when you end up having to deal with an external package that confused the issue by throwing a legacy init script or two in the mix alongside the ubuntu packages using the new system either.
[21:19] <Mathisen> propman, okej. there is no risk of data loss ?
[21:20] <riu> oder konn mir wer helfen
[21:20] <propman> Mathisen, always a risk  backup first
[21:20] <Mathisen> propman, :)
[21:20] <Pici> !de | riu
[21:20] <Bashing-om> Mathisen: I see no free space to expand any partition into AND that lock symbol indicates that the root system is in use . Can not work on partitions that are in use . One works from say a liveDVD .
[21:21] <Mathisen> yeah i will boot live to resize then
[21:22] <Bashing-om> Mathisen: Murphy's Law applies .. make sure important data is backed up .
[21:23] <Mathisen> yep i got backup on external device
[21:23] <jancoow> Ben64: thanks. Chmod 755 and chown root did the trick. Weird that chowning it to the own username doesn't work for some reason.
[21:23] <seraphina> I'll second that, it's usually successful but a simple power failure and all bets are off what state things are left in
[21:23] <Mathisen> it would be anoying doh if i need to re-install after a snall resize
[21:25] <jajajajan> hi, i got following problem: http://i.imgur.com/huSODGc.jpg (strangly cannot make a print screen with that pop-up on), If any1 could tell me whats going on I'd be really happy :)
[21:25] <seraphina> Mathisen, True, though the thing is that simple resize especially with a shrink is not quite that simple there are multiple critical points where the results are pretty much undefined if something interupts things.
[21:26] <Ben64> jajajajan: the error message tells you exactly what the problem is. check the file mentioned
[21:27] <jajajajan> yeah, but how - where can i find it?
[21:27] <Mathisen> okej well lets hope this is my lucky day then :)
[21:27] <Ben64> jajajajan: it tells you exactly where the file is
[21:27] <jajajajan> it starts with list/ and then sth, i dont know the default location where to look for it
[21:27] <maxscam1> hey would creating a bash  function named "link" cause problems for installed programs?
[21:28] <Ben64> jajajajan: it tells you EXACTLY the file location!
[21:28] <seraphina> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libdvdcss.list it says
[21:28]  * genii twitches
[21:29] <jajajajan> I know that, I dont know how to launch that file/where to look for it anyway
[21:29] <Ben64> you know where to look for it, because thats where it is. open it up in your favorite text editor
[21:29] <jajajajan> should i just type it in terminal?
[21:30] <seraphina> Line 1 starts with desudo looks like you thought you were typing somewhere else to me, lines should start with deb or deb-src in there only depending if it's binary or source packages you want
[21:31] <jajajajan> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libdvdcss.list: Permission denied
[21:31] <seraphina> Yes because you are trying to execute a text file
[21:32] <k1l> jajajajan: please make a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libdvdcss.list" and put that output onto paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[21:32] <seraphina> Use your editor like sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libdvdcss.list
[21:33] <seraphina> k1l, The error is on line one somehow deb got changed into desudo all he needs to do it just change desudo to deb
[21:34] <Ben64> seraphina: not necessarily
[21:34] <jajajajan> k1I http://paste.ubuntu.com/15270075/
[21:35] <Ben64> interesting
[21:35] <jajajajan> should I just delete pirt two letters?
[21:35] <jajajajan> first*
[21:36] <k1l> jajajajan: you see the first line? there is a command that is not supposed to be there
[21:36] <jajajajan> u mean first two letters?
[21:36] <k1l> jajajajan: use "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libdvdcss.list"  and delete the "desudo apt-get dist-upgra"  on the first line
[21:36] <seraphina> jajajajan, The first line should be like this:
[21:36] <seraphina> deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/debian/stable/ /
[21:36] <k1l> then do a ctrl+x , press yes. then its done
[21:36] <seraphina> The second line is fine
[21:38] <jajajajan> ok its done. should I reboot now?
[21:38] <seraphina> No need
[21:38] <jajajajan> how this first line got there? what i did incorrectly?
[21:38] <k1l> jajajajan: no. run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in terminal
[21:38] <jajajajan> kk
[21:38] <k1l> this will ship you all the updates you need
[21:39] <jajajajan> when im trying update: E: Type 'desudo' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libdvdcss.list
[21:40] <seraphina> Ok jajajajan let's try again looks like it was not saved properly
[21:40] <k1l> jajajajan: so you didnt do what i told you.
[21:40] <jajajajan> ok, I got it
[21:40] <jajajajan> I didnt save it correctly, now its ok
[21:40]  * genii ponders "desudo"
[21:41] <adrian_1908> desudo is for Japanese mirrors only :p
[21:41] <ash_workz> what's the best channel to talk about cron jobs and general server config?
[21:42] <jajajajan> So, if u dont mind telling me - what I did incorrectl this bug appeard?
[21:42] <seraphina> You successfully manage to run the "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" command now?
[21:42] <jajajajan> yeah its done
[21:42] <jajajajan> but this red icon still appars on the upper bar
[21:42] <Ben64> jajajajan: did you actually run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" ???
[21:42] <k1l> jajajajan: you messed up a command. i think a command having "echo" in it. that wrote that mess into the file (guessing you just created that repo)
[21:42] <seraphina> jajajajan, It looks like when you were creating/editing that file you got yourself a bit lost and thought you were typing into your command line but you were still in the file.
[21:43] <Bashing-om> jajajajan: What releae are you running .. as that PPA does not support the latest ubuntu releases  ?
[21:43] <seraphina> Or possibly yeah a slip up typing the command
[21:43] <jajajajan> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[21:44] <jajajajan> yes, i did both of them
[21:44] <Bashing-om> jajajajan: Good, it is supported .
[21:44] <jajajajan> Bashing-om: nice to hear that
[21:45] <jajajajan> im goin to reboot maybe it will disappear
[21:45] <seraphina> k1l, Not sure about the echo command actually unless they passwd root or did sudo -i/s or something shouldn't have been writable by shell redirection
[21:45] <ash_workz> like, I think right now we have cron process a mail queue; I was just sorta wondering if there was some reasonable way to process mail when it hits the server... but Idk
[21:46] <Ben64> seraphina: echo blah | sudo tee /dev/null
[21:46] <k1l> seraphina: i know some howtos who create that using echo blah | sudo tee /path/to/file. so some copy and paste erorrs and there you go
[21:47] <seraphina> Hmm, true there
[21:47] <jajajajan> it's all right now, thank you all :) Im going to be back for sure cos I am one hopeless noob
[21:47] <k1l> and i dont know of a setup where a apt-get dist-upgrade could end up there :)
[21:48] <k1l> jajajajan: just pay some more attention when you using sudo. that will help a lot :)
[21:48] <jajajajan> k1l: thx ;>
[21:48] <seraphina> Though that would seem like a guide written by someone asking for trouble when dealing with a multiline file anyway though that's not to say every poster on the internet actually thinks that through I guess.
[21:49] <k1l> seraphina: or youtube video makers :/
[21:49] <seraphina> ^^^ What k1l, I've managed to make a few right doozeys myself typing a command wrong lol
[21:50] <seraphina> what k1l said even
[21:50] <jancoow> Ugh. Could someone help me with some permission problems. When i do a chmod 755 on a dir, i can connect with sftp and i can create files / folders. But i can not create files/folders over a samba share. However, when i do chmod 777 i can create folders/files on a samba share, but i can't connect with sftp ..
[21:50] <seraphina> Managing to rewrite all the perms recursively on lib was a genius one rolls eyes
[21:52] <seraphina> jancoow, Are we talking about the same directory here?
[21:52] <jancoow> seraphina: yes!
[21:52] <EriC^^> doesn't make sense
[21:53] <jancoow> seraphina: also when i do a chmod 777 on a subdirectory i can't connect with sftp anymore
[21:54] <seraphina> Right, that is because most FTPd's wont serve access to a directory with such insecure perms it is really a very bad idea to do that to be honest.
[21:54] <seraphina> Is there some reason that you need to have both servers using the exact same directory?
[21:57] <jancoow> well; some more explanation about the situation. I've a webserver with several directories. For a developing group i need a sftp user which can upload to a specific directory on the webserver. Let's say /mnt/hdd1/webserver/Projects/specificperson . But locally i work on my samba share in /mnt/hdd1/webserver/Projects. But that's impossible now because i can't create any directories etc.
[21:57] <jancoow> i also don't get it why chmod 777 shouldn't work. It should be all permissions right ?
[21:58] <geirha> 777 never solves anything
[21:58] <seraphina> Yes however it is a sledgehammer solution which is dangerous
[21:58] <jancoow> what should you suggest?
[21:59] <seraphina> It completely defeats the purpose of security measures like having servers dropping privilages to their own individual users etc is why it's not recommended since even the smallest service can be made to write there.
[21:59] <seraphina> Anyways, that said if both services really must access the same directories you would be better to make a group for it.
[22:00] <seraphina> Have the two servers use their individual user accounts but a shared group say call it fileservers
[22:00] <seraphina> Or whatever
[22:01] <jancoow> mm that looks like a good solution
[22:02] <Live150> Hello I am trying to setup SSH on ubuntu 14.04 trusty Kernel 3.16.0-55 and so far I can ssh into the computer using the local IP but when I try to do external IP and port the terminal responds: connection refused I have UFW and port forwarding set up. Whatesle could it be?
[22:02] <geirha> then you can use mode 2775
[22:02] <seraphina> It's still not ideal security wise since you give potential attackers two lots of code to find some exploit in to get rw access to those directories but it's safer than opening it to the world
[22:02] <ouroumov_> Live150, you're behind a router?
[22:03] <Live150> yeah and the router is port forwarding using the specific port.
[22:03] <ouroumov_> oh Live150 sorry I hadn't seen the "port forwarding" bit
[22:03] <seraphina> If it was me I would probably just set up the FTP on the web directories and use FTP when you need to access those yourself too but is ultimately your decision how you want to proceed :)
[22:04] <jancoow> seraphina: i find ftp a little bit insecure :)
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> Live150  first try with ufw disabled, to find out if ssh works to the ip address
[22:04] <ouroumov_> Live150, you have added an UFW rule for inbound traffic on 22 I take it?
[22:04] <seraphina> Live150, Where are you trying to test the external IP from please?
[22:05] <jancoow> seraphina: problem is that i now suddenly have no write/delte permissions with chmod 755.. I'm getting really confused. What do you think is the normal permissions to just read and write files / directories ?
[22:05] <Live150> Terminal on my laptop trying to simulate SSH into my desktop from remote network using my public IP.
[22:05] <seraphina> jancoow, Are you trying to use the shared group method?
[22:06] <k1l> Live150: inside the network its not working that way
[22:07] <jancoow> seraphina: i first wanna let it work for only the sftp user; after that also the samba user :)
[22:07] <Live150> So it should work even though I can't simulate it by using the external IP?
[22:07] <seraphina> Live150, You need to test from outside the NAT router because it is not looking to do NAT for traffic coming from you LAN and back into your LAN
[22:08] <Live150> Ah ok
[22:08] <Live150> I see.
[22:08] <k1l> Live150: test from a phone or such
[22:08] <seraphina> It does NAT on traffic going through the router ie NET -> LAN or LAN -> NET not LAN -> LAN
[22:09] <seraphina> Yeah phone should work that is using the phones cellular data though not wifi :)
[22:09] <Live150> Trying it now. :P
[22:09] <Volund> Uuuuuugh. This sound card's line in is apparently crap.
[22:10] <seraphina> jancoow, Ok who currently is the user and group that owns the directory?
[22:10] <seraphina> ls -l dir
[22:11] <Live150> Weird still timed out....
[22:12] <jancoow> seraphina: drwxr-sr-x  4 www-data www-data
[22:12] <Live150> is there anything I need to adjust in the sshd_config file?
[22:12] <Live150> all I changed was the Port on which I am hosting the SSH
[22:13] <seraphina> Live150, Assuming that you are using the correct IP address etc a timeout would indicate a firewall issue usually
[22:13] <seraphina> If SSHd wasn't accepting the connection on an unfirewalled port you would get connection refused instead
[22:14] <seraphina> Timeout means that the packet was actively dropped most likely
[22:14] <k1l> did you restart the sshd after changing settings in sshd config?
[22:14] <puliz> Hello.I am running apache server. But it's serving files from /var/www/html/index.html. How can I make it serve from my home directory?
[22:14] <seraphina> jancoow, Ok, and your FTP server is configured to use what user and group?
[22:15] <Volund> So I'm trying to link the Line In on my Lenovo TS140 (a server box) to a monitor's audio out. I use pactl load-module module-loopback to listen to the line in on my headphones (I'm trying to link my PS3 through it) but while I can hear the PS3, I'm bombarded by staticy junk. Is this a setting problem or more likely just shitty audio card? 'cuz I know this worked fine when Ubuntu was...
[22:15] <Volund> ...installed on my gaming rig
[22:15] <riceandbeans> is there a way to redirect stderr and stdout to a file AND have stderr ONLY to console?
[22:17] <Live150> restart sshd?
[22:17] <k1l> Live150: you need to restart the ssh service on the server for the changes to take effect
[22:17] <jancoow> seraphina: projectgroepa6 . They are also in the sftp group so the user can't go out of his home directory Match Group sftp ChrootDirectory %h  ForceCommand internal-sftp   AllowTcpForwarding no
[22:18] <seraphina> riceandbeans, I think command >file 2>&1 | tee file
[22:18] <k1l> Live150: service ssh restart
[22:18] <k1l> Live150: with sudo in front
[22:19] <Guest36545> hello
[22:19] <gr33nbits> heias
[22:19] <seraphina> Ok, in that case change the owner of the directory to www-data.projectgroup6 and set the directory permissions to 775
[22:19] <seraphina> That will give rw access to the webserver and members of projectgroup6
[22:20] <Live150> Well at least now it prompted me for my username and says connecting. :/
[22:20] <Guest36545> i have bought a domain and the company that bought this to me said we just say domain and we are not response for dns what should i do?
[22:20] <jhave> Hello
[22:20] <trunk_monkey> Guest36545: not really an ubuntu question man, sory
[22:21] <jhave> How do i find what the default kernel version is in 14.04 ?
[22:21] <seraphina> If the webserver doesn't need to be writing files you could use 575 to avoid giving the webserver access to do things it need not be doing, principle of least privilage is a good idea :)
[22:21] <Guest36545> i need to configure with bind on ubuntu 15.10 and i have nothing to configure
[22:21] <jancoow> seraphina: oke well when i do sudo chown www-data:projectgroepa6 foldername and chmod 755 foldername i can't connect with sftp anymore
[22:22] <Guest36545> what should i do?
[22:22] <nakanut> jhave: think it is 3.19
[22:22] <nacc_> nakanut: i think jhave is gone :)
[22:22] <nacc_> nakanut: and it depends, 14.04 is 3.13 based, but you can add hwe kernels
[22:23] <seraphina> jancoow, Just to check do you have the FTP server configured in it's config file to use the user and group of the logged in user?
[22:23] <jancoow> seraphina: well i'm using sftp so it's the normal ssh client
[22:23] <Ben64> Guest36545: you should join ##networking and ask your networking questions there
[22:24] <nakanut> nacc_: sorry, i was thinking 15.04
[22:25] <Live150> GOT IT.
[22:25] <Live150> thanks a lot guys. :D
[22:25] <Bray90820> EriC^^: You around?
[22:25] <EriC^^> ya
[22:25] <EriC^^> what's up?
[22:25] <seraphina> jancoow, Yes but I am talking about the FTP server you are running on the server side, not sure which you are using but some ftp servers can be configured to use the servers own user/group or the user/group of the authenticated user.
[22:25] <Bray90820> What should be our next move in reading the script
[22:26] <fathom> Hello, when I boot my computer I get a message that there is something wrong with my OS and offers to send a bug report, but it does not let me view what the report is. Moreover, my computer allows updates without being root. Is this a sign of a compromised OS?
[22:26] <seraphina> Live150, Great, glad it's working :)
[22:27] <Bray90820> EriC^^: what should be our next move in reading the script
[22:28] <EriC^^> Bray90820: strace it
[22:28] <jancoow> seraphina: well i'm not running a ftp server :)
[22:28] <jancoow> i'm running the normal ssh client
[22:28] <jancoow> for Sftp
[22:28] <jancoow> but finally, i found a workaround. Creating a directory in that directory with chmod 755 i can create files -.-"
[22:28] <Bray90820> EriC^^: Here is the output of that
[22:28] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/KJeSKgUZ
[22:29] <seraphina> Oh, sorry my mistake am used to sftp as FTP protocol over an encrypted link not secure copy via SSH
[22:29] <jancoow> oh :)
[22:31] <seraphina> Yeah that is another way of going about it jancoow I didn't suggest that at first as I was under the impression that you required it to be in the main directory not a subdirectory heh
[22:32] <seraphina> fathom, I have sometimes known the apport dialog for come up like a little sliver of a title bar with just the x button to close pretty sure it's just a bug there.
[22:32] <Bray90820> eam: Is there anything we can do with that information
[22:33] <Bray90820> Sorry wrong ping
[22:33] <Bray90820> EriC^^:
[22:33] <ouroumov_> fathom, do you have files in the /var/crash folder?
[22:33] <EriC^^> Bray90820: are you trying to recreate it?
[22:34] <fathom> ouroumov_, No..nothing there
[22:34] <fathom> may just need to reinstall
[22:34] <fathom> Every couple of months ubuntu bugs out
[22:34] <seraphina> fathom, As for the updates installing part did you actually go through the entire update process, it should ask you for your user password before actually proceeding with the installation itself, that will only work for users that are authorised to use sudo though regular users are not allowed.
[22:35] <fathom> seraphina, Exactly
[22:35] <fathom> so what's up with this?
[22:35] <seraphina> You did not get asked for your password?
[22:35] <fathom> negative
[22:35] <Bray90820> EriC^^: Yes
[22:36] <jancoow> seraphina: well, it isn't really a problem, only the url is getting somewhat longer :). But i really need to learn more about linux permissions because all my samba mounts are a really mess
[22:36] <Bray90820> EriC^^: : Yes I am trying to recreate the script
[22:36] <jancoow> but really thanks for the help!
[22:36] <fathom> buggy
[22:37] <seraphina> jancoow, Give me a sec :)
[22:37] <seraphina> fathom, are you sure that you did not accept the default to allow security updates to happen automatically that might be the reason.
[22:38] <django_> hey all
[22:38] <django_> which one of these is for ubuntu 14.04: https://www.citrix.com/downloads/citrix-receiver/linux/receiver-for-linux-latest.html
[22:38] <fathom> That would be a pretty explicit command, wouldn't it?
[22:38] <fathom> seraphina, It's not like a windows update that decides for you
[22:38] <fathom> seraphina, Like telemetry
[22:39] <fathom> seraphina, So, no, I have not explicitly requested that users do changes to my system
[22:39] <EriC^^> Bray90820: where'd you get it from?
[22:40] <ouroumov_> fathom, so reinstall, use an LTS version
[22:40] <EriC^^> Bray90820: looks pretty intricate, checks if the binaries are there for ssh and rsync etc, then uses rsync to backup and other stuff too
[22:40] <fathom> ouroumov_, it IS LTS
[22:40] <fathom> buggy
[22:40] <ouroumov_> Then keep doing that. :o
[22:40] <Bray90820> EriC^^: If you mean where did i get the script someone on IRC created it for me back one early December
[22:40] <ouroumov_> What flavor is it fathom ?
[22:40] <fathom> buggy bugy buggy
[22:40] <fathom> ubuntu
[22:41] <ouroumov_> Yeah but what version of it fathom ?
[22:41] <fathom> 14.04
[22:41] <ouroumov_> Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu MATE, Kyulin ?
[22:41] <k1l> fathom: no. its not a bug and its not compromised
[22:41] <EriC^^> Bray90820: have someone create another, disassembling it would be difficult
[22:42] <fathom> (fathom hits ouroumov_ over the head) UBUNTU! UBUNTU! UBUNTU!
[22:42] <EriC^^> Bray90820: do you just want to modify part of it?
[22:42] <EriC^^> like where it saves to?
[22:42] <fathom> buggy
[22:42] <seraphina> I know that mine has not asked for the password when it was a critical security update but I didn't deselect security updates for software that I'd selected to be installed.  Though 90% of updates are optional and need a password so not sure.
[22:43] <Bray90820> EriC^^: I am adding a new hard drive to my server and I just wanna see if it even needs to be modified
[22:43]  * seraphina shakes head
[22:43] <k1l> fathom: look into /var/crash
[22:43] <k1l> m(
[22:43] <ouroumov_> k1l, I tired that already
[22:43] <seraphina> jancoow, Sorry about that thanks for waiting a minute
[22:43] <ouroumov_> tried *
[22:44] <EriC^^> Bray90820: looks like it uses the mount point to copy stuff
[22:44] <seraphina> jancoow, Was just going to suggest one option if you wanted the shorter URL would be to place a directory outside of the /var/www or whatever directory and use a bind mount to make it appear there too.
[22:45] <tgm4883> ouroumov_: then insist. It's the correct answer
[22:45] <nacc_> k1l: ouroumov_: fathom responded earlier, saying nothing was in /var/crash
[22:45] <nacc_> no idea if that's true
[22:46] <Bray90820> EriC^^: So from what you can tell if I replaced one of my 2TB hard drives with a 4TB hard drive  and kept the same mount point the script would still run just fine?
[22:46] <seraphina> Heh, no clue seems like that part of his questions was satisfied however since he never mentioned it again after that he was trying to work out why it was possible to install a update without a password.
[22:47] <EriC^^> Bray90820: yeah, as far as i can tell
[22:48] <seraphina> Really think that they probably have the security updates option on or something but they didn't appear to be open to checking lol
[22:49] <Bray90820> EriC^^: Same if I were to update ubuntu when the LTS comes out in April?
[22:49] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:49]  * seraphina shrugs, "Guess the answer was incompatible with what they wanted the answer to be"
[22:50] <Bray90820> EriC^^: Thanks
[22:50] <Bray90820> That was actually a lot of help
[22:50] <Bray90820> You made me realize the script wasn't even running to begin with
[22:52] <EriC^^> Bray90820: no problem
[22:54] <seraphina> If there is any existing data under the mount point you want to keep there can mount the new device on a temporary mount point and copy it over first
[22:57] <jancoow> seraphina: well that's really a good idea. Just add a different sub-domain to a apache folder
[22:57] <seraphina> jancoow, That would be another option too :)
[22:59] <seraphina> Though actually when I mentioned bind mounts that wasn't the way I was thinking there is a command mount directory1 -obind directory2, makes all files and folders under directory1 also appear under directory2 like they are aliases for the same thing.
[23:01] <seraphina> Note that does not include other mountpoints that exist under directory1 those wont be visible under directory2 if you have any and want those to be included need to use -orbind instead
[23:03] <jancoow> ah nice! :)_
[23:04] <jancoow> well, again, really thanks for the help seraphina
[23:04] <max12345> hello, I've just set up a vnc server and associated stuff. I can connect fine with IP but not with my domain name. Any ideas?
[23:04] <jancoow> i've to go. Good night!
[23:04] <seraphina> Your thinking is easier in this case though jancoow to be honest so just sharing that for future reference, there is a few other bind mounts too so check out man mount
[23:04] <Ben64> max12345: the domain name doesn't point to the ip?
[23:04] <seraphina> Nite, take care :)
[23:05] <daftykins> max12345: does it resolve to an internal or external IP...
[23:05] <jancoow> well, i will try it out in the feature, i will defenitly learn something from that :)
[23:05] <Bray90820> EriC^^: one more question
[23:05] <jancoow> bye bye
[23:05] <Bray90820> What format was that backup file
[23:05] <max12345> Ben64: I think you're right... something must have changed.
[23:06] <max12345> derp
[23:06] <max12345> thanks
[23:07] <seraphina> max12345, Can always check using the host command for a simple IP check or dig will give a bit more detail if you need it, just to make sure that it is resolving to the address you expect.
[23:08] <daftykins> max12345: also VNC over the internet... oh dear.
[23:09] <max12345> daftykins: is that bad?
[23:09] <adeon_> max12345  you should tunnel over SSH
[23:10] <adeon_> if you dont mind everyone listening on a phonecall, i supposed the same can be said if you dont mind VNC over the internet.
[23:11] <seraphina> Yeah, VNC isn't the most secure of protocols not encrypted and doesn't have secure authentication either so it's safer to use SSH to the remote machine then VNC to it from localhost.
[23:12] <seraphina> Though I would skip the VNC part if you are connecting from a linux machine and set up x forwarding over SSH instead, only really need the added baggage if using a less capable client system that doesn't support such things heh
[23:12] <daftykins> max12345: plaintext passwords, you connect from an internet cafe... someone else can connect in too
[23:12] <daftykins> really bad move
[23:13] <almark> how about  vnc over a ssh link?
[23:13] <Ben64> that works
[23:13] <Ben64> x forwarding is kinda slow, in my experience
[23:14] <seraphina> Ben64, depends on the bandwidth at both ends of the link of course and whether or not you take advantage of the compression option of SSH if the bandwidth at either end is less than ideal.
[23:15] <Ben64> still pretty laggy...
[23:16] <seraphina> I remember it being like forever ago when I had an early adopter ADSL link on one end but then so was VNC to be fair.  Can't say it's something I've noticed when using a modern broadband connection though personally.
[23:17] <pingwindyktator> hello, can someone tell me how to install gcc 6? is downloading and compiling source code the only way?
[23:18] <Ben64> pingwindyktator: yep, but thats unsupported and likely to break everything
[23:18] <pingwindyktator> Ben64 even if I wont change alternatives?
[23:19] <Ben64> gcc6 isn't even released yet
[23:19] <pingwindyktator> it is
[23:19] <max12345> alright, alright I'll use ssh in the future :P
[23:20] <wael> ciao
[23:22] <seraphina> max12345, Is the best bet, I would also recommend having the VNC server bind to localhost if you are going to do that and connect using ssh -L [localport]:localhost:[vncserverport] and just point your vncclient to localport on localhost on your client machine.
[23:23] <seraphina> That way nobody can remotely take a crack at hacking the VNC server only way to reach it is by authenticating through SSH first and tunnelling.
[23:23] <nacc_> pingwindyktator: i think release for gcc is mid-april
[23:23] <nacc_> pingwindyktator: it's currently in stage4?
[23:24] <pingwindyktator> nacc_ stage3 iirc
[23:24] <seraphina> After all is no sense exposing a server to the internet if the authorised user of said server is only connecting via an SSH tunnel, only purpose that serves is to serve hackers xD
[23:25] <nacc_> pingwindyktator: not according to https://gcc.gnu.org/develop.html
[23:25] <nacc_> pingwindyktator: but regardless, that's not released yet
[23:25] <nacc_> pingwindyktator: as Ben64 said and you denied
[23:25] <seraphina> wb again :)
[23:26] <max12345> seraphina: I don't think I got what you mean by localport/localhost.
[23:29] <seraphina> Ok so if you for example type ssh user@remotehost -L 8999:localhost:9000 what happens ssh connects to the SSH server at remotehost then it makes a connection to localhost:9000 on the remote machine.  Finally it opens a listening port on localhost:8999 on the client machine which acts as a tunnel to the service at localhost:9000 on the SSH server machine
[23:30] <seraphina> Thus the remote service listening on 9000 would only ever need to accept connections from localhost and the user can connect to it from anywhere using SSH :)
[23:34] <seraphina> Hoping that I explained it better that time lol
[23:34] <max12345> seraphina: hehe, but doesn't that just open another port?
[23:35] <seraphina> No the two ports are on different ends of the connection
[23:36] <seraphina> Basically port localhost:8999 on the machine you are sitting down at becomes a secure encrypted proxy to localhost:9000 on the machine you are ssh'ing into
[23:37] <seraphina> So only the SSH server at the far end need to accept connections from the internet the VNC server only gets the connection from the SSH server.
[23:38] <max12345> ah ok, so everything would go over the ssh and be secure
[23:38] <seraphina> Right exactly
[23:38] <adeon_> You might also need to enable gateway ports on the ssh local machine
[23:38] <max12345> and nobody else could even reach the listening thing because they#d have to enter my ssh connection to do that
[23:38] <adeon_> max12345, You might also need to enable gateway ports on the ssh local machine
[23:38] <seraphina> Precisely
[23:40] <max12345> Thank you!
[23:40] <max12345> :)
[23:41] <adeon_> max12345, you can loop back any port that way, just not VNC. so for example you can loop back HTTP 80, to 8000 on that local machine should you need that port.
[23:44] <max12345> hm I can see how that would be useful.
[23:44] <seraphina> max12345, Just for reference it even works to use the SSH connection to tunnel a port on another machine back over the SSH connection to you something like say ssh user@remotehost -L 8000:192.168.1.100:80 would let you access the webserver of a server on your local lan remotely via the secure connection.
[23:45] <seraphina> ie some webserver on your home network while you are away somewhere else
[23:46] <daftykins> you don't need to do that at all.
[23:46] <daftykins> SOCKS proxy over SSH, then *any* web source is accessible at the other end
[23:48] <seraphina> That's true though -L works well enough if you just want to tunnel to a single endpoint from the remote SSH server.
[23:48] <daftykins> making the task so specific though strikes me as a waste of time
[23:51] <seraphina> I guess, force of habit I tend to use -L to just tunnel to some given single socket if that's all I happen to need at the time, generally am more in the habit of using the socks proxy when pretty much wanting to use the server like it were a VPN server lol
[23:52] <MegaManSec> does anybody know the program that is used for popup notifications in ubuntu?
[23:52] <MegaManSec> e.g. changing songs in banshee
[23:52] <seraphina> Granted it's not a VPN but for any application that speaks SOCKS it's good as
[23:52] <mattlach> Hey, I have a quick Xenial question, if anyone is good with it.
[23:52] <pilne> has there been an "official non-hacky" fix to getting steam working in 15.10? and/or will 16.04 be seamless?
[23:53] <mattlach> If I were to install the Xenial Server beta1, should it cleanly upgrade to the final release once released?
[23:54] <mattlach> And is this just through apt, or would it be a do_dist_upgrade kind of thing?
[23:54] <solido232>  /server irc.irc-hispano.org
[23:54] <seraphina> MegaManSec, If I recall it's called notifyOSD
[23:54] <k1l> !final | mattlach
[23:54] <k1l> mattlach: but server and development release is not a good combination
[23:55] <mattlach> @K1l:  Much obliged!
[23:55] <steveiebur> Which Linux Distro for a laptop with Pentium 4 at 2.x GHz and 1GB ram and 60GB hard drive?
[23:55] <k1l> steveiebur: Xubuntu or even Lubuntu
[23:55] <seraphina> In case the reason for your question is because you are looking to send your own custom pop up notices check the notify-send command
[23:56] <MegaManSec> ty seraphina
[23:56] <pilne> ubuntu mate is relatively light, but probably a bit heavy for a p4
[23:57] <steveiebur> k1l: And that would run?  I did a tour on Linux.com, found so many tiny distros, but haven't been able to download and install them
[23:57] <pilne> i'd go for lubuntu honestly, maybe even something smaller that isn't ubuntu based.
[23:57] <steveiebur> pilne: Any ideas on something really light?
[23:57] <seraphina> Yeah thus using the Xubuntu or Lubuntu variants, they use lightweight window managers
[23:57] <k1l> steveiebur: yes. xubuntu is somewhat lighter than the other big desktops. but Lubuntu is made for old and slow hardware
[23:58] <mattlach> stevie:  I agree with others.  Lubuntu is probably your best bet on that hardware.    There are other non-ubuntu distributions that work too, but since it is based on ubuntu, you'll have an easier time getting everything working.   The software catalogue and hardware support is huge
[23:58] <django_> hey all im tryng to install scapy.py
[23:58] <django_> it says to do: cd /tmp then: wget scapy.net then: unzip scapy-latest.zip
[23:58] <daftykins> you don't really install python scripts
[23:58] <pilne> honestly, i've tried a bunch of tiny distros, and lubuntu was/is the easiest to work with if you don't have a ton of experience with editing config files by hand.
[23:58] <steveiebur> k1l: And that would turn faster than the WinXP that my friend had on it?
[23:58] <django_> i get an error:
[23:58] <django_> "unzip:  cannot find or open scapy-latest.zip, scapy-latest.zip.zip or scapy-latest.zip.ZIP."
[23:59] <daftykins> django_: you can't "wget scapy.net" - that needs to be a path to the exact file.
[23:59] <django_> ohh
[23:59] <django_> im an idiot
[23:59] <pilne> xp sp3 got pretty bloated, so i would say that almost without a doubt lubuntu would run better
[23:59] <k1l> steveiebur: lubuntu is the most lightweight ubuntu version
[23:59] <daftykins> django_: yeah, the file doesn't exist... so shockingly it won't be there
[23:59] <steveiebur> pilne: Gonna try that, then. But it will be happy with 1GB RAM?
[23:59] <steveiebur> pilne: Like using the desktop lxde?