| knome | toooo slooooow | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| bluesabre | :D | 00:15 |
| bluesabre | the slowness never stops | 00:15 |
| knome | true | 00:15 |
| slickymaster | knome, bluesabre, added my comments to the pad | 00:17 |
| bluesabre | slickymaster: cool, going through and commenting more where appropriate | 00:20 |
| slickymaster | oki doke bluesabre | 00:20 |
| knome | new revision pushed | 00:21 |
| slickymaster | give me a sec knome | 00:21 |
| slickymaster | to have a smoke | 00:21 |
| knome | hahah | 00:21 |
| knome | bluesabre, you should get it too, i think i just proved you wrong | 00:21 |
| knome | re: "Not really sure if anything can be improved here." | 00:22 |
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| bluesabre | knome: :D cloning | 00:23 |
| knome | it's ever so slight change, but i think it improves the slide a lot | 00:24 |
| * slickymaster opt for a pear instead of smoking | 00:25 | |
| slickymaster | WAY MUCH BETTER knome | 00:26 |
| knome | haha | 00:26 |
| slickymaster | as far as I'm concerned the second one is done :) | 00:27 |
| bluesabre | so. many. revisions. | 00:27 |
| knome | maybe some slight tweaks, but yeah | 00:27 |
| slickymaster | did you see my comments in the pad, knome? | 00:28 |
| knome | not yet | 00:28 |
| slickymaster | in particular the one reagrding the Xubuntu >Desktop slide | 00:28 |
| knome | hmh, not sure | 00:29 |
| slickymaster | too many animation? | 00:30 |
| knome | that might be too busy, and i'm not sure if the user actually needs to see the panel zoomed | 00:31 |
| slickymaster | I do see your point knome, but as it is that slide is too much of a wall of text | 00:33 |
| knome | then do something else with it | 00:33 |
| bluesabre | knome: ahhhh, that's so fancy with the animations | 00:37 |
| knome | bluesabre, isn't it | 00:37 |
| * bluesabre approves | 00:37 | |
| knome | the thing i'll do after i've landed all these animations | 00:37 |
| knome | is look through the slideshow | 00:37 |
| knome | and remove half | 00:37 |
| knome | ;P | 00:37 |
| bluesabre | :D | 00:37 |
| slickymaster | I'd lose those two paragraphs in the 'Xubuntu Desktop' knome | 00:37 |
| knome | then it's a very empty slide | 00:38 |
| slickymaster | I'd prefer to see there a screenshot of a desktop than some more text | 00:39 |
| knome | pushed a new revision | 00:41 |
| knome | is the animation for the contribute slide too cheesy? | 00:41 |
| slickymaster | lol rolling a cigarette | 00:41 |
| knome | hah | 00:41 |
| knome | there goes the "pear instead of a cig" one | 00:42 |
| slickymaster | already ate the pear that's why | 00:42 |
| knome | well yeah.. | 00:42 |
| bluesabre | knome: yes, that's too cheesy | 00:42 |
| * bluesabre is reminded of early powerpoint presentations | 00:42 | |
| knome | yeah | 00:42 |
| knome | :D | 00:42 |
| bluesabre | er | 00:43 |
| bluesabre | OpenDocument presentations | 00:43 |
| knome | haha | 00:43 |
| knome | no, you DID mean powerpoint presentations | 00:43 |
| knome | in 1990's | 00:43 |
| bluesabre | :D | 00:43 |
| knome | :| | 00:43 |
| knome | that slide needs a bit of something though | 00:44 |
| knome | hey jjfrv8 :) | 00:47 |
| jjfrv8 | hi, knome | 00:47 |
| bluesabre | knome: maybe blueprinty something or other | 00:47 |
| slickymaster | hey jjfrv8, | 00:47 |
| knome | meh | 00:47 |
| * bluesabre shrugs | 00:47 | |
| jjfrv8 | hey, slicky | 00:47 |
| knome | slickymaster, i tried the contribute slide with the contributor docs link, but it became too full | 00:47 |
| knome | especially as we need to make sure translations fit too | 00:47 |
| bluesabre | knome: we could use shortlinks... does ubuntu have a url shortener? | 00:48 |
| slickymaster | I don't like this version of that slide knome | 00:48 |
| knome | bluesabre, of course i hid the url itself in a link text :P | 00:49 |
| bluesabre | oh right | 00:49 |
| bluesabre | :D | 00:49 |
| bluesabre | have you considered just showing links and dropping all other text :D | 00:49 |
| knome | yes | 00:49 |
| knome | i have... | 00:49 |
| bluesabre | ah | 00:49 |
| slickymaster | bluesabre -> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/libwww-shorten-perl/ | 00:49 |
| knome | slickymaster, i think he meant ubuntu.com url | 00:50 |
| knome | and yeah, there is one actually, but it's a bit hidden.. | 00:50 |
| slickymaster | oh | 00:50 |
| knome | well it's actually ubottu.com and also not so secret that one wouldn't be on our topic :P | 00:50 |
| slickymaster | knome, you have to rollback the contribute slide to the previous version | 00:50 |
| knome | i did that already | 00:50 |
| slickymaster | great | 00:50 |
| slickymaster | so are there any other options to place the contributor docs links? | 00:51 |
| Unit193 | knome: And all over factoids. | 00:53 |
| * bluesabre is not so observant it seems | 00:53 | |
| Unit193 | I put it there. >_> | 00:53 |
| bluesabre | :D | 00:53 |
| knome | slickymaster, i don't think so (at least not another slide) | 00:55 |
| knome | slickymaster, that said, we should make it's more visible on the website than it's now | 00:55 |
| knome | (there is practically no link there from any "landing" page...) | 00:55 |
| slickymaster | yeaps, another slide isn't a good option | 00:55 |
| * knome goes edit the website meanwhile | 00:55 | |
| knome | last revision for today | 01:17 |
| knome | there's this and that cleanup | 01:17 |
| knome | and all slides should have the likely final layouts now, without the extra artwork/effects | 01:17 |
| * slickymaster checks it before going to bed | 01:17 | |
| knome | bluesabre, i agree with the customization slide, but what could it be? if it's not something specific, then it's boring general blabber | 01:18 |
| knome | bluesabre, though we can tweak the slide nicely, eg. change the background color to pink while on that slide | 01:19 |
| bluesabre | knome: I'm not sure | 01:19 |
| knome | think about it :) | 01:20 |
| knome | i'll do that too while ehmm.. sleeping | 01:20 |
| slickymaster | I'm just fighting the Xubuntu Desktop slide | 01:21 |
| slickymaster | other than that, I like the overall outcome of the installer | 01:21 |
| slickymaster | anyway, bed time for me. Early morning in a few hours | 01:22 |
| slickymaster | mañana all | 01:22 |
| knome | sleep tight | 01:22 |
| knome | nighty! --> | 01:32 |
| flocculant | lots of words | 07:05 |
| * flocculant looks at the pictures instead | 07:09 | |
| knome | flocculant, isn't that what very young and very old people tend to do anyway? | 09:58 |
| * knome hides | 09:58 | |
| bluesabre | morning all | 12:10 |
| knome | hello bluesabre | 12:10 |
| bluesabre | hey knome | 12:11 |
| bluesabre | http://contest.xubuntu.org/ looks nice | 12:11 |
| knome | :) | 12:11 |
| knome | should put it into some kind of test, then announce the competition | 12:11 |
| bluesabre | definitely | 12:12 |
| flocculant | like really soon ... | 12:27 |
| knome | flocculant, yeah, i'm writing the mail | 12:28 |
| flocculant | knome: hah | 12:28 |
| flocculant | oh | 12:28 |
| flocculant | hah to not actually needing to read words not the mail :p | 12:28 |
| knome | ;) | 12:28 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: https://i.imgur.com/89PcVt0.jpg | 12:32 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: ha ha | 12:32 |
| bluesabre | :d | 12:32 |
| bluesabre | :D | 12:32 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: see what happened is I saw slickymaster ... knome ... ad infinitum | 12:33 |
| bluesabre | gotcha | 12:33 |
| flocculant | and thought - mmm - check the last lines :p | 12:33 |
| flocculant | saw slide thought that bzr pull was more than enough words :D | 12:34 |
| knome | yup | 12:34 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: g-s > software sources now points to software sources/updates thingy | 12:34 |
| bluesabre | yay! | 12:34 |
| bluesabre | we might have something usable this week | 12:35 |
| flocculant | so I think that unless the thing completely implodes on Ubuntu then no reason to not go there | 12:35 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: usable now | 12:35 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: do you think we should go ahead and swap over for people to start using it a bit? | 12:36 |
| flocculant | well if we don't want to carry on using usc or go backwards to synaptic - then I think we should lose usc and add this as soon as practical :) | 12:37 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: then it will be in tomorrow's image (unless there is no internet tonight) | 12:37 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: do you know of the top of your head how usc dealt with dependencies on a removal of something? | 12:38 |
| bluesabre | I'm going to load up today's image tonight and look for greybird bugs and missing icons to poke ochosi | 12:38 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: I think it just does the same as apt-get remove | 12:38 |
| bluesabre | not sure though | 12:38 |
| bluesabre | could test that tonight | 12:38 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I'll look once I'm home then - be quicker | 12:39 |
| flocculant | just want to know if it's the same as g-s mostly | 12:39 |
| bluesabre | dpkg -l > old.txt | 12:39 |
| bluesabre | install package | 12:39 |
| bluesabre | dpkg -l > new.txt | 12:39 |
| bluesabre | remove package | 12:40 |
| bluesabre | dpkg -l > newer.txt | 12:40 |
| bluesabre | and diff away | 12:40 |
| bluesabre | :D | 12:40 |
| flocculant | well I was just going to use usc then see if apt-get autoremove says anything :p | 12:40 |
| bluesabre | that works | 12:40 |
| bluesabre | easier too | 12:40 |
| flocculant | :) | 12:40 |
| bluesabre | darn | 12:40 |
| flocculant | ha ha ha | 12:40 |
| bluesabre | :D | 12:40 |
| bluesabre | time to get ready for work, bbl | 12:41 |
| flocculant | have a day :) | 12:41 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: did it now - looks like usc just leaves behind the configs - gs leaves behind dependencies | 12:51 |
| knome | hahah | 12:51 |
| flocculant | I'll check in a clean install though - just in case I did something - if it's right I guess we should do some sort of 'article' | 12:52 |
| flocculant | knome: ^^ | 12:52 |
| knome | mhm | 12:52 |
| flocculant | seems -desktop is getting all happy about breeze being default in ubuntu while we're wanting to stop that :D | 12:53 |
| knome | heh | 12:53 |
| flocculant | anyway - time to wander again - bbl | 12:53 |
| flocculant | knome: just very very quickly - perhaps a link in that mail re wallpaper might help :) | 12:54 |
| knome | flocculant, if you read it, you'd noticed i asked people to be in touch with me | 12:54 |
| knome | i don't want everybody and the world to poke their titty-pictures in the site | 12:55 |
| knome | ...yet | 12:55 |
| knome | flocculant, pull the slideshow | 13:00 |
| knome | flocculant, and check the desktop slide especially | 13:00 |
| knome | flocculant, the celebration of customization bluesabre talked about could now go there, potentially to replace the paragraphs at the bottom | 13:01 |
| knome | ...you'll figure out why | 13:01 |
| knome | i'm also thinking that now we might be able to drop the boxes near the panel | 13:03 |
| * knome goes set up the contest testsite | 13:32 | |
| knome | question to people: do we want to show the submissions during the contest, or do we just show the winners once we are done? | 13:35 |
| knome | Akxwi-dave, remind me to ask you one more question once i've sent you the mail with instructions | 13:39 |
| lbssousa | Could you make Whisker Menu show it's icon label by default (and make it translatable) in Xubuntu default panel layout? My schools' teachers complain that its icon is too small. | 13:41 |
| Akxwi-dave | knome, will do... | 13:47 |
| Akxwi-dave | knome, personally i would show the finalists | 13:49 |
| Akxwi-dave | before cossing winners | 13:50 |
| knome | yeah | 13:50 |
| knome | i'll have to write a small amount of code then | 13:50 |
| knome | i haven't thought too much of that, yet... | 13:50 |
| Akxwi-dave | is the team choosing the winners or the public? | 13:51 |
| knome | the team or a subportion of the team | 13:51 |
| knome | at least that's how it went the last time | 13:51 |
| Akxwi-dave | in that case at least you dont have to write a voting system.. :-) | 13:52 |
| knome | i did already | 13:52 |
| knome | ;) | 13:52 |
| Akxwi-dave | should have guessed.. I usually cheat and use a pre written mod for phpnuke or e107 | 13:52 |
| knome | heh :) | 13:53 |
| knome | since the plugin adds the submission to the wordpress media gallery, it's easy enough to push some metadata for the submissions - and easy enough to write a simple UI for that | 13:53 |
| knome | Akxwi-dave, sent mail, and will send the extra questions in a minute | 14:00 |
| knome | and those are done too | 14:07 |
| knome | Akxwi-dave, and if you are wondering, the instructions are kind of vague for a reason - we want the site to be so usable that we don't need to write long instructions | 14:07 |
| Akxwi-dave | cheers amte | 14:07 |
| knome | np | 14:08 |
| Akxwi-dave | right bbl.. gotta drive to another office.. | 14:10 |
| knome | hf | 14:10 |
| Akxwi-dave | ;-) | 14:10 |
| knome | ...if possible | 14:10 |
| dkessel | knome: may I help with a test submission? | 14:50 |
| flocculant | knome: if by check desktop especially - you mean the colour changing - very nice - but not something I particularly like myself | 17:40 |
| flocculant | not sure what you mean by "the celebration of customization bluesabre talked about" | 17:42 |
| flocculant | re voting on wallpapers - given that we are a community flavour - perhaps we should let the community vote for "a number" and then "team" narrow that down | 17:46 |
| flocculant | don't see why not - when other flavours do let community join in | 17:47 |
| knome | flocculant, everything's possible... | 18:35 |
| knome | flocculant, and re: customization i mean mentioning something about the plethora of options available in xubuntu | 18:35 |
| knome | but, bbl | 18:35 |
| pleia2 | knome: should I look at the slideshow in the installer today, or is there a newer version in lp? | 19:02 |
| pleia2 | flocculant: any issues right now with using unetbootin vs. usb-creator-gtk with the daily isos? or should I just dd to a usb stick? | 19:05 |
| pleia2 | (assuming I'm making it on a 15.10 system) | 19:06 |
| knome | pleia2, nothing is landed in the installer yet, there's a branch in launchpad though | 19:12 |
| knome | pleia2, https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-doc/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-1604 | 19:13 |
| knome | pleia2, if you want to look at that... | 19:13 |
| pleia2 | knome: ty | 19:13 |
| knome | pleia2, basically just pull the branch, and run "./test-slideshow.sh xubuntu" in the branch root | 19:13 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 19:14 |
| knome | hope the slideshow brings you surprises and joy | 19:15 |
| pleia2 | :) | 19:16 |
| flocculant | pleia2: afaik the fixed ubuntu tool is fixed in xenial/unetbootin > no idea, stopped using that cycles ag- currently I use disks because can't be bothered to dd - so I would say dd it :) | 19:22 |
| pleia2 | flocculant: hah, wfm | 19:23 |
| flocculant | :) | 19:23 |
| flocculant | when thebuntu tool is current everywhere - it works - they lost persistence which was causing the problem | 19:24 |
| * pleia2 nods | 19:24 | |
| flocculant | " - Use an equivalent of dd to make an exact copy of the image to the device" " - This also breaks persistence." | 19:24 |
| flocculant | december 2015 | 19:25 |
| knome | "heh" | 19:25 |
| knome | so the only way to create a bootable USB device that you can later reuse with persistence is actually *install* the system on that device? | 19:26 |
| flocculant | guess so | 19:27 |
| flocculant | bbl | 19:27 |
| knome | that's so expected that it's even genious. | 19:27 |
| pleia2 | heh | 19:29 |
| pleia2 | I don't know how to use disks, turns out | 19:30 |
| knome | pleia2 not a DJ | 19:31 |
| pleia2 | har | 19:31 |
| pleia2 | imma try "restore disk image" | 19:52 |
| akxwi-dave | evening all | 19:53 |
| akxwi-dave | knome, first test uploads completed.. everything seems ok, | 19:54 |
| pleia2 | hey akxwi-dave | 19:54 |
| akxwi-dave | Hello pleia2 How are you today | 19:55 |
| pleia2 | good good | 19:55 |
| knome | akxwi-dave, good to hear everything has gone smooth so far :) | 20:06 |
| Nairwolf | hi, flocculant, you told me it's not necessary anymore to test upgrade ? | 20:08 |
| Nairwolf | it doesn't work from 14.04 to 16.04 right ? | 20:08 |
| knome | Nairwolf, for now, not, because the upgrade isn't working. | 20:08 |
| flocculant | pleia2: yea restore is the one | 20:08 |
| flocculant | knome: ty | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | flocculant: that's pretty handy :) testing once I find a place to put my laptop | 20:08 |
| knome | pleia2, didn't you learn to carry things on your head in africa? | 20:09 |
| knome | that's an essential skill! | 20:09 |
| flocculant | pleia2: it does the whole - gparted can't see it cos it's all odd - but afaik dd does the same | 20:09 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: as knome said | 20:10 |
| knome | cos..by? bill? is it you? | 20:10 |
| Nairwolf | ok, thanks | 20:10 |
| flocculant | knome: ... | 20:10 |
| knome | ta-ra! | 20:10 |
| Nairwolf | so tonight what I can do ? | 20:10 |
| pleia2 | knome: haha, no, those people are seriously talented | 20:10 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: dailies are ALWAYS there :) | 20:11 |
| knome | pleia2, totally! | 20:11 |
| Nairwolf | okay ! | 20:11 |
| knome | pleia2, it would be great for the neck/back to be able to carry things like that | 20:11 |
| flocculant | knome: back to the slideshow for a short time - not sure the bottom of the desktop slide would do justice to customisation - perhaps a couple of brief pointers and a slide for each ? | 20:33 |
| flocculant | don't know how many we're aiming for | 20:33 |
| * knome shrugs | 20:34 | |
| * flocculant *shrugs* as well and wanders off | 20:35 | |
| knome | :) | 20:35 |
| flocculant | I'll not bother commenting on it if *shrug* is your response | 20:35 |
| knome | what i mean is that i don't know, i'm just playing around with things | 20:36 |
| knome | i don't even have an idea of the type of text we'd want to use | 20:36 |
| knome | ...so the shrug isn't "i don't care", it's "i don't know, i'll think about it" | 20:39 |
| knome | ("and poke slickymaster with it") | 20:39 |
| Nairwolf | there is still this bug, and it seems to be really old. I don't think it will be treated untill the release | 20:44 |
| Nairwolf | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-basicfilesystems/+bug/990744 | 20:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 990744 in partman-basicfilesystems (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu installer says: The creation of swap space in partition failed" [High,Triaged] | 20:44 |
| Nairwolf | knome: how I am supposed to help you with the wallpaper contest ? | 20:48 |
| knome | Nairwolf, please reply to the thread on the mailing list and i'll get back to you via email | 21:04 |
| Nairwolf | ok, I will do that | 21:13 |
| flocculant | knome: re slideshow - I think I would be safe in saying you can probably Software for the package manager now :) | 22:19 |
| knome | mhm | 22:19 |
| knome | i wonder which icon we are using for it... | 22:19 |
| flocculant | do we use different from the normal app one? | 22:20 |
| knome | no | 22:20 |
| knome | but i don't know which icon the app uses :) | 22:20 |
| flocculant | oic | 22:21 |
| flocculant | sadly looks like a shopping bag ... | 22:21 |
| knome | ;) | 22:21 |
| slickymaster | poke me ?! | 22:38 |
| flocculant | poke poke poke | 22:39 |
| slickymaster | will you be the poker, flocculant? | 22:39 |
| flocculant | nope | 22:39 |
| Unit193 | /kick slickymaster POKE | 22:39 |
| flocculant | I'llbe the wooden spoon for stirring with | 22:40 |
| * knome stirs slickymaster's face with the wooden spoon | 22:42 | |
| knome | wait. | 22:42 |
| slickymaster | so much violence going on | 22:43 |
| knome | violence? i was stirring *very* gently | 22:43 |
| * slickymaster doesn't even doubt it | 22:43 | |
| Nairwolf | I couldn't install the daily today... | 22:49 |
| Nairwolf | see you, good night | 22:59 |
| slickymaster | yeah, just checked krytarik, they weren't updated | 23:27 |
| slickymaster | something might have gone wrong when I run the script | 23:28 |
| slickymaster | or I might have't run it at all, and was convinced I did, when I push | 23:28 |
| slickymaster | who knows | 23:28 |
| slickymaster | ?! | 23:29 |
| slickymaster | krytarik, were you planning on working on de.pot tonight? | 23:29 |
| knome | nobody knows about you... | 23:29 |
| slickymaster | nobody knows the troubles I've seen... | 23:30 |
| krytarik | slickymaster: Nope, just pointing out. | 23:30 |
| slickymaster | ok | 23:31 |
| slickymaster | I'll do it later then | 23:31 |
| bluesabre | evening alllll | 23:58 |
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