[00:00] <mattlach> steveibur: It would be faster than WinXP yes.   More importantly though, it will be more secure.  XP was never particularly secure to being with, but running it now that it is no longer receiving support and patches is just plain stupid.
[00:00] <daftykins> steveiebur: it'll suck, waste of time.
[00:00] <seraphina> Pretty much the heavy part of the main Ubuntu/Kubuntu variants is Gnome/KDE both are large application suites that eat CPU and RAM for breakfast when it's tight lol
[00:00] <mattlach> *begin
[00:01] <mattlach> steveiebur: I can't help but wonder why you are doing this though.  I've seen newer, more capable hardware given away for free because people don't want it anymore.
[00:01] <steveiebur> daftykins: The friend bought his laptop second hand and was complaining that XP was crap.  I offered to help.  If Lubuntu will work with 1GB RAM, I'll try it
[00:01] <seraphina> Yeah will certainly be faster than XP, eye candy costs CPU cycles and RAM, XP has a rather large amount of it too.
[00:02] <steveiebur> mattlach: I'm nuts, I agree, but I just wanted to help the person
[00:02] <daftykins> steveiebur: ok, but be warned :)
[00:02] <daftykins> turds cannot be polished.
[00:03] <pilne> as long as you have 1gb of ram, the standard install ISO will work and run fine, lubuntu used about 300megs of RAM last time i used it
[00:03] <steveiebur> daftykins: Any better ideas - except for throwing it out?
[00:03] <mattlach> steveiebur:   System requirements are here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu
[00:03] <daftykins> steveiebur: is it some netbook? i didn't see the start of this
[00:03] <mattlach> As low as 256mb of RAM will produce decent usability
[00:04] <daftykins> mattlach: that is completely false, i have done a test on this with a system with that much RAM - it's totally unusable.
[00:04] <daftykins> nobody should try and enable ideas that rubbish old systems can be magically brought back to life with lubuntu, it simply does not happen.
[00:04] <seraphina> mattlach, Eh a modern browser could eat that on it's own with a few tabs open
[00:04] <mattlach> daftykins:  I'm just quoting th eofficial lubuntu page I linked above
[00:05] <pilne> you need to use the alternate ISO and some special instructions for less than 1gb
[00:05] <daftykins> mattlach: ok, well please don't share their lies - i've confirmed it as wrong first hand
[00:05] <steveiebur> daftykins: He bought it in what is like a pawn shop in Belgium from where I'm talking.   He's something like 70 years old.  Any  more questions?
[00:05] <mattlach> Sure, you could load it up with software to slow it down, but the system still runs on that amount of RAM.
[00:05] <daftykins> steveiebur: that sounds more like the human spec than the system spec
[00:05] <daftykins> mattlach: no, default boot it has nothing left
[00:05] <daftykins> it swaps the first program you run - utter lies.
[00:05] <pilne> so he just needs basic, simple, secure internet?
[00:06] <daftykins> you could pick up something miles better for free / next to nothing and have a far better experience
[00:06] <steveiebur> daftykins: I've used TRK on it - to the extent I can.  It found a memory issue, even though it run Xp on it.  I'm going to do what I can to help the person
[00:06] <steveiebur> see ya later
[00:06] <daftykins> you're saying the RAM is also bad?
[00:06] <steveiebur> and thx
[00:07] <pilne> if you are going to use that hardware, just give lubuntu a shot, try it from the install media, if you do install, give it all the hard drive except for like 3gb for a larger swap, and he should be golden until he or it croaks....
[00:07] <daftykins> ok that's a really big mistake
[00:08] <seraphina> Hell if I was going to consider messing with a 256MB RAM box for the lulz to try and make it do anything would probably be more thinking along the lines of building a diy wifi/DSL router or something with basic minimal kernel/busybox etc treat the thing like an embedded system that just happens to be rather larger and heavier than average.
[00:08] <steveiebur> daftykins: One thing in the memory was flagged.  I'm going to do what I can with what I have.  Miracles cost too much
[00:08] <steveiebur> bye
[00:08] <daftykins> no they come free.
[00:08] <daftykins> but nevermind... you can't save them all.
[00:10] <seraphina> My company threw away a bunch of laptops like twice as capable as that, pretty much couldn't even give the things to a charity :p
[00:13] <seraphina> Maybe they could have raised a few pennies stripping them down for scraps of precious metals or something but as working machines err no.
[00:13] <daftykins> donate to education.
[00:13] <seraphina> The offer was made and to a couple of hospital childrens wards lol
[00:16] <seraphina> Though granted the latter did say that they could have made use of them but had enough to meet demand so...
[00:17] <seraphina> But then doesn't need a particularly huge amount to keep the littler ones amused for a little while probably lol.
[00:19] <Plush-Teddy> seraphina: i've read "penis" hmmhmmm
[00:19] <uname> Hi guys
[00:19] <daftykins> Plush-Teddy: that talk is not acceptable here.
[00:19] <daftykins> !ot
[00:19] <nicomachus> ಠ_ಠ
[00:19] <Plush-Teddy> "(...) raised a few pennies stripping  (...)"
[00:19] <Plush-Teddy> i misready myself
[00:19] <Plush-Teddy> calm down
[00:19] <Plush-Teddy> *misread
[00:20] <nicomachus> Plush-Teddy: keep it on topic and there is no problem.
[00:20] <Plush-Teddy> YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
[00:20] <Plush-Teddy> YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
[00:20] <Plush-Teddy> YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
[00:20] <Plush-Teddy> YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
[00:20] <seraphina> lol
[00:21] <seraphina> Nice of him to save the ops a job there probably heh
[00:21] <daftykins> keep it on topic seraphina .
[00:21] <daftykins> chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:22] <nicomachus> Looks like the Chrome repos are down across several mirrors. any way to check server status somewhere?
[00:22] <somsip> nicomachus: down on the PPA here too
[00:22] <uname> good night
[00:23] <seraphina> Hmm, google has a PPA?
[00:23] <k1l> not a PPA. its a repo
[00:24] <nicomachus> here's the error I'm getting: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15270898/
[00:25] <seraphina> Yeah I know they have a repo that's why I found it kinda odd that they would set up a PPA too unless they meant chromium rather than the one with the proprietary bits in it
[00:25] <nicomachus> never seen that particular issue with "wrong sources.list entry or malformed file"
[00:25] <k1l> yeah, chrome dropped 32bit builds
[00:25] <nicomachus> k1l: recently?
[00:26] <k1l> "early march". so now it is
[00:26] <k1l> another reason to not use 32bit ubuntus.
[00:26] <nicomachus> this is about as early march as it gets...
[00:26] <nicomachus> I'm on 64
[00:27] <k1l> ah wait
[00:27] <k1l> http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists is down for me too
[00:27] <nicomachus> so do I get to blame Google?
[00:28] <andy96> it's down for me too
[00:28] <k1l> yes
[00:28] <nicomachus> ok, I'm gonna blame Google. yay.
[00:28] <k1l> or they are concentrating on their main business: running a nameserver :)
[00:28] <seraphina> Yeah I am getting the same error and havn't made any config changes so I'd blame the remote :p
[00:28] <seraphina> Rofl k1l
[00:28] <nicomachus> k1l: pffft. They better focus on being an awesome ISP for me. :)
[00:30] <andy96> speaking of remote, I have an ubuntu server behind NAT that I want to be able to access from the internet. other than a reverse shell, what ways can I go about reaching it?
[00:30] <seraphina> I just did a quick double check of the sources.list file to be sure is nothing in there making any specific reference to the i386 so if google has dropped it intentionally it's something on their servers that is referring to the non existant former location.
[00:31] <andy96> Google did drop support for 32-bit linux starting march
[00:32] <daftykins> andy96: changing the port SSH listens on would be the best first action, followed by setting a static IP on that system (so it's always at the same internal IP), then port forward the new SSH port on your r outer.
[00:32] <nicomachus> seraphina: yea, I think that's where the "malformed file" part comes in. Whenever they removed i386 packages, they forgot to remove the references to them.
[00:33] <andy96> thanks for the info daftykins, I'll go with that'
[00:33] <cluelessperson> Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had trouble with cups and Xerox printing in ONLY black and white before?
[00:33] <cluelessperson> I can't get this to work
[00:33] <seraphina> andy96, SSH would be your best bet for remote login honestly would be the only thing that I would recommend over the internet, if you want something to access the graphical desktop would recommend VNC/x-forwarding over SSH
[00:34] <andy96> It's just for shell access, so SSH will be fine
[00:34] <nicomachus> cluelessperson: You'll have to be a bit more specific, and go into a bit more detail.
[00:35] <dtcrshr> hello everyone. I have this sony SVD1321M2EB, its an ultrabook with sliding touch screen. I tried up some distros but only ubuntu 15 the mouse and touch inputs worked. But none of them the wireless were detected. It came with windows 8, but the update to 8.1 and finally 10 killed most of the funcionatilty of this ultrabook, so I would like to revive it with linux.
[00:35] <dtcrshr> any tips on getting the network working?
[00:35] <daftykins> dtcrshr: i would bet those upgrades were at fault, fresh Windows would probably work best on a Sony device - Linux never tends to be too great.
[00:35] <daftykins> otherwise though, i recommend you try the 16.04 daily image
[00:36] <dtcrshr> hmmm nice, ill give a shot
[00:36] <daftykins> but yeah - to confirm my warning, sony + touch + Linux = bad combo
[00:37] <sruli> never mind touch - sony + linux = bad news
[00:37] <cluelessperson> nicomachus, I found another PPD file to attempt, brb. :)
[00:37] <seraphina> sruli, heh where I am sitting that sentence reads a lot like sony = bad news :p
[00:38] <sruli> yes! never had good experiance with them, even years ago on windows it had so much bloatware on it it was crap
[00:39]  * seraphina laughs, you mean like windows itself :p
[00:39] <sruli> i had 4/5 sony pc's all were a disaster with linux, toshiba almost as bad
[00:39] <daftykins> sruli: this isn't a place for historic anecdotes about Windows systems.
[00:39] <daftykins> seraphina: i've warned you about the off topic crap already
[00:39] <dtcrshr> I personally had an windows vaio in 2009, worst computer I ever had
[00:39] <daftykins> #ubuntu-offtopic <-- do us a favour and go there.
[00:40] <dtcrshr> the warranty was awful, i ditched it for an avell, very nice notebookk
[00:40] <daftykins> dtcrshr: drop the chat and take it to the above channel please.
[00:40] <dtcrshr> daftykins: im downloading the xenial daily, will give it a shot
[00:40] <daftykins> this is a support only channel
[00:40] <dtcrshr> I see.
[00:40] <daftykins> 16.04 support will also need to be taken to #ubuntu+1 once you get that far
[00:41] <celzi> is there a way to make it so that you boot into windows by default unless you hold down a button during startup? then you will boot into ubuntu?
[00:41] <dtcrshr> ok, ill just come back again tomorrow when you are not here, maybe more friendly ones as usual, have a nice evening
[00:41] <somsip> dtcrshr: just go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:41] <daftykins> dtcrshr: these are channel rules, all volunteers follow... deal with it.
[00:42] <daftykins> celzi: you could set GRUB to boot Windows as default, yeah
[00:42] <Bashing-om> !grub | celzi
[00:42] <sruli> celzi: u need to modify the grub for that, as far as i remember not very simple, i'll have a look if i still have my notes on it
[00:43] <daftykins> /etc/default/grub change the default from 0 to the Windows entry.
[00:43] <celzi> sruli:  so there isn't just like a program or something that I can download and it will work
[00:43] <hpp> would be nice if it remember what you booted last time like in manjaro
[00:43] <cluelessperson> nicomachus,   Okay.   CUPS print test pages just come out black and white, no color.    I'm using the Xerox 7556
[00:43] <cluelessperson> what other details do you need?
[00:43] <leo11086> hi everyone, is there somebody who is free for help me?
[00:43] <seraphina> celzi, The program you need is already installed on your computer, it's what starts booting your OS :)
[00:44] <dtcrshr> when booting the live image, I have this detections - http://snag.gy/Jyr5l.jpg wonder if any one of them may be a network
[00:44] <sruli> dont have the notes and dont have a system with windows so cant check now, sorry
[00:44] <seraphina> Is a matter of telling it what you want it to do :)
[00:44] <dtcrshr> is there any where I can check if those dispositives, hashes are compatible with ubuntu?
[00:44] <andy96> yeah, go ahead and ask whatever
[00:45] <daftykins> leo11086: just ask the channel a question
[00:45] <leo11086> how can i download files from here?
[00:45] <somsip> !list | leo11086
[00:45] <daftykins> you mean ubuntu ISOs?
[00:45] <k1l> dtcrshr: the usb ids are easy to look up if people have issues with that and if someone solved it
[00:45] <leo11086> i used powerscript before
[00:46] <daftykins> leo11086: it's not clear what you're talking about.
[00:46] <celzi> seraphina: the reason why I am asking this is that I just completed my dream computer. This thing can boot in less than 5 seconds! it would be a real shame if I lost that fast boot time just becasue grub was waiting for me to select an os on the rare ocasion that I do use ubuntu
[00:46] <leo11086> i'm talkin about downloading files
[00:46] <daftykins> WHAT files?
[00:46] <celzi> seraphina: also sorry for the wait I am a slow typer
[00:46] <diddledan> daftykins THE files
[00:46] <leo11086> movies
[00:46] <seraphina> dtcrshr, Could be wrong but the realtek device stands out they make a number of network chipsets
[00:46] <somsip> !list | leo11086 (as before)
[00:46] <diddledan> daftykins, probably the NOC list
[00:46] <daftykins> leo11086: we don't help you obtain anything illegal, that's banned on this entire IRC network. Go away please.
[00:46] <k1l> leo11086: no warez here.
[00:47] <m000gle> Is there any way to prevent Ubuntu from detecting when I power off a DisplayPort connected monitor?  I am trying to prevent it from automatically rearranging all windows when a monitor is powered off.
[00:47] <leo11086> what's the meaning of warez
[00:47] <leo11086>  sorry
[00:47] <leo11086> ?
[00:47] <daftykins> leo11086: go away.
[00:47] <dtcrshr> seraphina: yeah. Im wondering if maybe some of those realtek are network devices
[00:47] <k1l> leo11086: no illegal movies or other stuff in here.
[00:47] <dtcrshr> daftykins: cant you kick / ban people on this channel as you mod it?
[00:48] <hpp> fast boot is nice but then again how many times you boot. does it really matter if it's 2 sec or 2 min
[00:48] <seraphina> celzi, Well there is that but you could set the grub timeout to like 1 sec setting it to 0 you can still get the menu if you keep hitting the key over and over and hope to catch it in the right split second.  1 sec would make it easier without making a significant difference.
[00:49] <daftykins> dtcrshr: look, you're new here... i get that, but instead of trying to fight against volunteers who helped you, just deal with it and move on, ok?
[00:49] <cluelessperson> I can't get CUPS to produce a color test page from Linux mint (based on 14.04)
[00:49] <somsip> !mint | cluelessperson
[00:49] <dtcrshr> yeah, im new. Im on this channel for about 10 years, have seem a lot of dudes like you, they came and go
[00:50] <cluelessperson> ubottu, The software is ubuntu based.
[00:50] <dtcrshr> little power sindrome takes all levels, I understand
[00:50] <cluelessperson> somsip, ^
[00:50] <dtcrshr> ill just let you bee, cheer up
[00:50] <somsip> cluelessperson: mint is not supported here. That's all.
[00:50] <daftykins> dtcrshr: nah, just learn to take appropriate talk to the appropriate channel :) goodbye.
[00:50] <celzi> seraphina: so what you are telling me is that GRUB does in fact NOT have the functionality to boot to an os by default unless an button was held down?
[00:50] <cluelessperson> somsip, Great, the problem isn't with mint.
[00:51] <andy96> celzi You could have grub auto-boot an specific OS without waiting unless you hold down a key
[00:51] <andy96> http://askubuntu.com/a/161693 has some info on that
[00:51] <k1l> cluelessperson: no support for mint. for mint support use the mint channels that are made autostart in the mint irc programs.
[00:51] <sruli> celzi: grub is for linux but supports windows, read the docs on how to auto boot
[00:52] <seraphina> dtcrshr, I'm sorry but I would try using lspci -vvv and lsusb -vvv it will give more information some of the other details will help give a clue which is the right one.
[00:52] <dtcrshr> thans seraphina
[00:52] <k1l> dtcrshr: drop that offences against other users. read the guidelines and if you have any issue with user come to #ubuntu-ops and tell the ops.
[00:52] <dtcrshr> I found refferences on a german forum - https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/sony-vaio-duo-13-unter-ubuntu-14-04-kein-wlan/ im translating it to see it end
[00:52] <celzi> andy96: it literally says right under the post you linked "I tried your method and it failed. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS"
[00:53] <andy96> I've used it in the past successfully, at the least it gives you an approach
[00:53] <seraphina> celzi, Yes it does as I said you can set the timeout to 0 and have it start booting the OS as soon as it is ready from the MBR just that if you do set it to 0 the window of time between when grub starts and it passed control to the windows bootloader is only a fraction of a second is all.
[00:53] <dtcrshr> k1l: dont worth the time to complain about those topic nazis, its ok, ill just keep asking support questions and people with common sense will try to help, as usual.
[00:54] <dtcrshr> but thanks
[00:54] <propman> dtcrshr, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Specific_Entries
[00:55] <FKEN> Hi all! I want to install ubuntu alongside a Windows that I ain't having administrative privileges (Campus's computer).   The strange fact is that windows has three partitions "OS", "RECOVERY" and "SYSTEM". Do ye have ideas?
[00:55] <k1l> dtcrshr: any more accusations or remarks against other users and you are out of the door. be warned. you are acting as a aggressor right now.
[00:55] <dtcrshr> sorry propman, cant see the relation with the realtek devices / sony networking
[00:55] <seraphina> dtcrshr, If you are still not sure after trying those commands put the output up on pastebin for me I'll take a look at it.
[00:55] <dtcrshr> sorry k1l
[00:56] <sruli> seraphina: timeout 0 does not work if there is a windows os... changes need to be made in /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[00:56] <propman> dtcrshr,  ohh..maybe I posted to the wrong person then.  mea cupla   thought you were the rascal asking about booting windows automatically and ubuntu manually
[00:57] <dtcrshr> oh no, passed that already :D
[00:57] <FKEN> I have to add: ubuntu installer does not identify windows.
[00:57] <seraphina> sruli, Ah fair enough I'll have to hand you that one since I've not actually used windows since pre grub2 lol
[00:58] <sruli> seraphina: havnt used it in 6 years, but set it up for a friend once
[00:59] <celzi> propman: no that was me
[00:59] <sruli> celzi: in /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober find and change the following "set timeout_style=menu" to "hidden" and 2 lines after change timeout=10 to whatever u want
[01:01] <sruli> celzi: then find which number ur windows os is set it to default in /etc/default/grub then update-grub
[01:01] <propman> celzi, ahhh ok sorry :)  the information I sent tells how to set a default (either windows or linux etc)   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Specific_Entries
[01:02] <dtcrshr> seraphina: I have to close the lab now, but I'll keep the vaio here for testing. Already downloaded the daily 16.xenial to try up if it gets more things workin
[01:02] <dtcrshr> the german post mounts the brdm  module by hand, ill try also tomorrow, thanks for the tips
[01:02] <seraphina> FKEN, well the recovery partition will be a recovery image from the device manufacturer, as for the others though I am not a windows user anymore SYSTEM sounds like it's probably the UFEI boot partition and OS the main C: drive, what size are the OS and SYSTEM partitions does it say where you are looking?
[01:03] <seraphina> dtcrshr, Alright, good luck with it, let me know how you get on :)
[01:03] <dtcrshr> o/
[01:05] <seraphina> Oh oops my bad didn't see they had already given up
[01:08] <celzi> propman: ok thanks for the info, that is one step closer in the right direction and now that that is solved I just need to figure out a way so that it does not choose windows if a button is held down upon boot
[01:08] <systemd0wn> Question, I was looking for a way to set a newly installed app (/opt/appname/bin) in the path for every user. I added it to /etc/environment. I guess I should have used /etc/profile.d/ because it can't be found. What's /etc/environment for then?
[01:12] <celzi> how often is GRUB updated?
[01:12] <k1l> celzi: on every new kernel udate
[01:12] <k1l> *update
[01:12] <celzi> k1l: ok, how often does that occour?
[01:13] <k1l> at least on every security issue in the kernel. but i would say every 2-3 weeks
[01:13] <celzi> k1l: just for the record I know literally nothing about linux.
[01:14] <celzi> k1l: will that change the etc/default/grub file back to a non modified configuration?
[01:15] <k1l> celzi: no
[01:15] <k1l> it will read all the grub configuration files, look for kernels, look for other OS and then create the grub.cfg in /boot
[01:16] <reisio> but it won't do your laundry, I know I've tried
[01:24] <celzi> ok on to my next question I am currently running windows off of an ssd and on that ssd I have steam  and windows installed, I have another secondary drive that I keep all my game files on it. I was reading that you can play steam games via steam on linux now, is there a way to make it so that linux is able to refrence those files on the secondary d
[01:24] <celzi> rive allowing me to play those linux compatible games? I was able to do this on windows by going to setting => Downloads =>  Content librarys. Is it more complicated on linux?
[01:25] <lapyo> steam should work almost like in windows
[01:25] <k1l> just few games are linux compatible
[01:25] <k1l> and will load their own files
[01:25] <lapyo> but I'm not sure if those game files are compatible with linux version of the game
[01:26] <reisio> easy way to find out
[01:26] <reisio> and if they don't work via native steam, there's always a chance they'll work via Wine
[01:27] <lapyo> but running wine on dual boot system is ehh, kind of stupid imo
[01:28] <reisio> I might make the same argument about dual booting at all, TBH :D
[01:30] <Ubuntu14Help> hello
[01:30] <Ubuntu14Help> its anyone online ?
[01:30] <lapyo> tbh, as long as linux game support is as "bad" as it is now, gamers are required to use windows
[01:30] <ouroumov_> Ubuntu14Help, ask your question
[01:30] <Ubuntu14Help> ok ... well im new with linux command line and .... what i want to do
[01:31] <Ubuntu14Help> is access my dedicated server {that runs ubuntu) remotely
[01:31] <Ubuntu14Help> from my windows pc
[01:31] <Ubuntu14Help> how can i do that
[01:31] <ouroumov_> Ubuntu14Help, you can install Putty
[01:31] <somsip> Ubuntu14Help: use puTTY to ssh to the server. Please keep questions and responses on one line
[01:31] <lapyo> putty, ssh
[01:32] <Ubuntu14Help> yes but putty only let see the console
[01:32] <somsip> Ubuntu14Help: what do you want to see?
[01:32] <Ubuntu14Help> and like i told you ... i want to see the desktop
[01:32] <Ubuntu14Help> on my ubuntu
[01:32] <somsip> Ubuntu14Help: it's unlikely that a server is running a desktop
[01:32] <Ubuntu14Help> not the console terminal
[01:32] <promet> does anyone use libsdl with c++? I am having some champion compile errors with g++
[01:33] <promet> I think it's the libsdl library location, but am not sure
[01:33] <lapyo> Ubuntu14Help: if your server has a desktop installed(which would be weird), you could vnc to it
[01:33] <promet> I'm sorry, I'm actually referring to sfml
[01:33] <somsip> Ubuntu14Help: if it is definitely running a desktop, looks like you need something called xming http://www.geo.mtu.edu/geoschem/docs/putty_install.html http://superuser.com/questions/299158/how-to-make-putty-do-the-equivalent-of-ssh-x or VNC as has just been mentioned
[01:34] <Ubuntu14Help> well this is my point ... its a brand new server i just got it .... and i have no ideea what to install and what to do to access the desktop server
[01:35] <lapyo> desktop != server
[01:35] <reisio> Ubuntu14Help: you installed the 'server' version of Ubuntu?
[01:35] <Ubuntu14Help> ok sorry ..... i meant terminal or desktop
[01:37] <ouroumov_> Ubuntu14Help, what do you want to use the server for?
[01:39] <somsip> !pm | Ubuntu14Help
[01:40] <Deithrian> What symbol to add in rc.local so a script command executes in background? Was it & or $?!
[01:40] <somsip> Deithrian: &
[01:40] <Deithrian> somsip, in front of the line right?
[01:40] <somsip> Deithrian: end
[01:41] <Deithrian> somsip, thank you very much!
[01:41] <somsip> Deithrian: /run/some/command &
[01:42] <Deithrian> somsip, ./somescript.sh &
[01:42] <dk188> Ubuntu14help: ¿?
[01:42] <somsip> Deithrian: er, yeah, though relative paths may well cause problems when run from there
[01:43] <Deithrian> somsip, thanks! I have another line that 'cd' to the folder :)
[01:44] <somsip> Deithrian: well, don't be surprised if it doesn't work. Better to run the script with an absolute path, and cd in the script maybe?
[01:44] <Deithrian> somsip, will give it a try now :) it's a Fan control script.
[01:47] <Deithrian> somsip, worked great :) thanks!
[01:47] <somsip> Deithrian: ok - cool
[01:52] <Mneuro> I am running Ubuntu Gnome with Gnome Shell.  Gnome shell keeps crashing but I don't know where to look to find if there is a way to fix it
[01:54] <voodoo> !out
[01:55] <Techspectre> Does anyone know if you can install Dolphin (KDE file manager) without installing KDE? It's far better than nautilus but the last time I installed it in Ubuntu using apt-get install dolphin, it caused *a lot* of GUI errors and inconsistencies in Unity and Gnome.
[01:55] <somsip> !info dolphin
[01:55] <somsip> Techspectre: so it is standalone as such, but do a dry run to see what dependencies it will pull in, maybe
[01:55] <reisio> Techspectre: technically yes, but it'll draw in a _lot_ of KDE-specific deps
[01:56] <Techspectre> I'm gonna try it a few different ways in a VM first I guess.
[01:56] <Techspectre> I'm just learning that Nautilus can't search a directory and all subfolders.
[01:57] <Bashing-om> Techspectre: To see what all will be pulled in compare ' apt-cache depends dolphin ' .
[01:57] <reisio> Techspectre: I'm sure it can do that, even if it might not be able to by default
[01:57] <Mneuro> I am running Ubuntu Gnome with Gnome Shell.  Gnome shell keeps crashing but I don't know where to look to find if there is a way to fix it
[02:01] <reisio> Mneuro: like, how frequently does it crash?
[02:03] <pilne> oddly enough ubuntu-gnome has been the most stable for me out of the "heavyweight" DEs
[02:04] <darkelfjuggalo> I need to install a Tarball gz on Ubuntu 15.04 [i might install one Tarball per year so I never remember how]
[02:04] <Volund> Hey quick question. Anyone got a recommendation for decompressing .7z files on Ubuntu?
[02:04] <propman> file roller
[02:05] <\9> Volund: if you're on the command line, 7zr x <file> does it
[02:05] <\9> I think you need a 7zip package for that
[02:06] <Mneuro> reisio it has crashed twice today
[02:06] <Mneuro> it's a fresh install of 15.10
[02:06] <Mneuro> the only thing I've installed is steam
[02:07] <Volund> there we go, now I can access them
[02:13] <Jonno_FTW> 'I have a problem
[02:14] <Jonno_FTW> I want to compile mpc but I get an error saying that it can't find libmpdclient, even though I told it where I install the right version of libmpdclient
[02:14] <pilne> Mneuro:: we'll assume you fully updated your install, added the appropriate proprietary video driver for steam, etc?
[02:14] <Mneuro> yes
[02:14] <Mneuro> Updated it and did system updates, then installed Nvidia driver
[02:15] <Mneuro> I've had similar issues with Unity crashing often too
[02:22] <nacc_> Ben64: interesting, just an fyi, gcc-6 is available in xenial (gcc-6-base)
[02:23] <Mneuro> I guess my next question is whether it's normal that your Ubuntu Gnome/Unity desktop just randomly crashes semi-regularly.
[02:23] <Mneuro> Is it just that Ubuntu is too unstable
[02:23] <nacc_> Mneuro: no, that's not normal
[02:23] <nacc_> Mneuro: although binary drivers mean that anything is possible :)
[02:23] <Mneuro> nacc_, unfortunately nouveau isn't an option
[02:24] <nacc_> Mneuro: you mean your hardware is not supported?
[02:24] <Mneuro> I have a gtx 960 and an i5-4590
[02:24] <Mneuro> Ubuntu doesn't support those?
[02:24] <nacc_> Mneuro: what do you mean "nouveau isn't an option"?
[02:24] <nacc_> s/do/did/
[02:24] <Mneuro> I play video games on my pc
[02:24] <nacc_> Mneuro: ah, so it's an option
[02:24] <nacc_> you just need to not play games
[02:24] <nacc_> :)
[02:25] <Mneuro> I know you are just being sarcastic, but if that's the only option then windows is unfortunately the only option
[02:25] <nacc_> i'd be curious if gnome is stable for you, w/o binary drivers
[02:25] <pilne> ubuntu versions are some of the most stable i've delt with... only ones moreso are ubuntu LTS, centos/rhel, slack, and debian stable.
[02:25] <Mneuro> nacc_, nouveau is definitely not stable on gtx 960
[02:25] <Mneuro> it barely supports it
[02:25] <nacc_> Mneuro: ok, that's a better reason, perhaps
[02:25] <nacc_> Mneuro: which is why I asked
[02:26] <Mneuro> nacc_, yea it doesn't even support a 1080p resolution properly on a gtx 960
[02:26] <Mneuro> and is incredibly slow
[02:27] <nacc_> Mneuro: does dmesg indicate where the "crashes" are? what kind of crashes do you mean? graphics system dying? or kernel oops?
[02:27] <TheNH813> I keep getting switched to console and seeing messages about failing to allocate memory. After switching back to TTY7 (where X is running) I can continue to use the computer untill it finally kernel panics. It happens several times a day. I'm blaming my RAM that I got for $15.
[02:27] <pilne> i know there are several nvidia drivers availiable for most cards with various levels of stability/testing, have you tried them all?
[02:27] <Mneuro> nacc_, to clarify, I've been an ubuntu user since 2007.  I have used XFCE almost the entire time.  I've recently been trying to move to a more modern desktop
[02:27] <Mneuro> nacc_, the crash is a error window that comes up and says that gnome-shell crashed
[02:27] <nacc_> TheNH813: if you blame your ram, run a memtest?
[02:27] <propman> which version of ubuntu?  14.04 -> 14.04.4 experience video corruption and system failures on a regular basis here; seems to be limited in 16.04 beta.
[02:27] <TheNH813> Really?
[02:27] <Mneuro> pilne, i've had this same issue on both the 352 and 355 driver
[02:28] <TheNH813> Yeah, it's 14.04
[02:28] <Mneuro> pilne, I won't run a newer driver since they are buggy
[02:28] <nacc_> Mneuro: so xfce w/ this card + binary driver is fine?
[02:28] <TheNH813> nacc_: Can't run Memtest if I don't have it. Could grab a random live cd though.
[02:28] <nacc_> TheNH813: well, right...
[02:28] <Mneuro> nacc_, Yes, I've never had xubuntu crash like this
[02:28] <nacc_> Mneuro: ok, interesting, have you looked through the bugs to see if it's a known issue?
[02:29] <TheNH813> I stuck a couple of old 512M sticks in and it hasn't died yet, but it still might.
[02:29] <Mneuro> nacc_, If it is, then I can't find anything
[02:29] <nacc_> Mneuro: the popup that shows up, it doesn't give you an option to look at the logs or report the issue?
[02:29] <nacc_> Mneuro: and, does dmesg indicate anything?
[02:30] <Mneuro> i don't know what you mean by dmesg
[02:30] <Mneuro> the only pop up says to report or close the window
[02:30] <Mneuro> i report it to canonical every time
[02:30] <propman> just type dmesg in a terminal
[02:30] <TheNH813> type dmesg into a command terminal
[02:30] <TheNH813> LOL someone beat me to it.
[02:31] <propman> or if you really want to look through it then   dmesg | less
[02:31] <Mneuro> okay, i'm not sure what to look for but it just looks lik ea list of my hardware
[02:31] <propman> which give you pageup and pagedown for scanning
[02:32] <Bray90820> Long shot here but if anyone remembers helping me create a script in early December can you Ping me
[02:33] <nacc_> Mneuro: can you pastebin the output? feel free to skip the beginning bits about hardware
[02:33] <Mneuro> nacc_, http://pastebin.com/NpNjVJ19
[02:34] <nacc_> Mneuro: has it crashed since the last time you rebooted?
[02:36] <nacc_> Mneuro: I don't think it has, but just checking
[02:36] <nacc_> Mneuro: so the next time you get the crash, if and when you do, drop to a shell (or open a terminal, whatever) and run dmesg
[02:37] <Mneuro> nacc_, yes it just did before i asked about it
[02:39] <nacc_> Mneuro: hrm, weird. Anything in /var/log/syslog stick out to you? You are specifically looking for mentions of crash, or segfault. I also wonder if /var/crash has any contents?
[02:39] <Mneuro> yea i see something about a crash
[02:40] <Mneuro> can I pastebin this to you?
[02:40] <nacc_> Mneuro: yeah
[02:40] <edgardoweb> :=)
[02:41] <Mneuro> nacc_, http://pastebin.com/hZUwV0j2
[02:41] <Mneuro> I see a lot of mentions of crash reporting
[02:41] <nacc_> yeah, so the crash was in gnome-shell, looking
[02:42] <nacc_> Mneuro: it does seem sort of suspicious that steam did something just before the crash. Is that always the case?
[02:43] <nacc_> WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed by signal 6
[02:43] <Mneuro> nacc_, I wasn't doing anything on steam before it crashed
[02:43] <Mneuro> nacc_, I was browsing the internet.  Steam was probably running in the background
[02:44] <nacc_> Mneuro: right, i mean if steam isn't running at all, does it crash?
[02:45] <nacc_> Mneuro: and sorry, i may not be able to help debug for much longer, gotta go make dinner
[02:45] <Mneuro> I don' t know.  I  never run my computer without steam in the background really
[02:45] <Mneuro> nacc_,  I appreciate your help
[02:45] <Mneuro> I've just gotten to the point that I have been thinking of leaving ubuntu
[02:46] <Mneuro> I figured i'd see if anyone can figure it out
[02:59] <rem505> I just installed lubuntu, so now when I search for programs do I have to add 'Linux' to every search or is there a better way?
[02:59] <reisio> rem505: hrmm?
[03:00] <BikerMike> How does one ever get over these forever stalling dropbox updates?
[03:00] <somsip> BikerMike: there is possible an ill-defined problem hiding in that statement. What's really going on?
[03:00] <reisio> BikerMike: you could use something less silly than dropbox
[03:00] <reisio> something less silly with more storage, even
[03:01] <rem505> what is the most effective way to search for programs for Ubuntu?
[03:01] <Techspectre> rem505, the software center
[03:02] <geirha> rem505: Open the software center, search there
[03:02] <Bashing-om> rem505: Terminal ' apt-cache search <search_item> ' .
[03:02] <BikerMike> *sigh* been trying to install it, but obviously it must've become corrupt along the way and now I'm stuck trying to fix it ~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:02] <rem505> OK I just ask b/c I wanted to watch Netflix and there is a link to a google site
[03:02] <reisio> BikerMike: proprietary apps will always be a bear to install
[03:02] <BikerMike> reisio i'm all ears!
[03:03] <JohnnyonFlame> Hey, anyone here tried running Ubuntu on cheap chinese baytrail devices? I can't get my panel to display anything. Once DRM kicks in the display goes into a state that looks like it was innited wrong and displays nothing.
[03:03] <BikerMike> somsip know anything cross-os that's like dropbox but isn't?
[03:03] <reisio> rem505: you can use chromium for that; not firefox yet, IIRC
[03:03] <Techspectre> So recently my contextual menus (file menu, etc) have been full screen height when you first highlight them but they go to normal when you click away and come back to them.
[03:03] <reisio> BikerMike: what do you get with dropbox, 2GB?
[03:03] <JohnnyonFlame> Plugged a HDMI cable and the intel driver seems to be working fine- glxinfo looks sane, glxgear is okay, and I managed to get xrandr/dmesg logs
[03:04] <somsip> BikerMike: bittorrent sync is something I use on a LAN, syncthing, spideroak is something I used in the past. Depends what you want it for
[03:04] <Techspectre> I use spideroak. Reasonable pricing and a great Linux client
[03:06] <rem505> I can't b/c 32 bit machine.  But I noticed that I didnt have to use the Software Center to d/l
[03:06] <karstensrage> how do you find out programmatically where your multiarch directory is
[03:07] <karstensrage> like how to find i386-linux-gnu/
[03:07] <rem505> So are most of software packages in Software Center and not on random websites?
[03:08] <reisio> rem505: yup
[03:08] <Techspectre> rem505, that's what Linux is all about. Trusted repositories
[03:08] <somsip> rem505: *all* official packages are in Software Centre. Random websites will not offer official packages
[03:09] <Techspectre> Though that's not to say there aren't packages worth having that you can't get from the software center
[03:09] <reisio> they might, for rare proprietary apps, but not generally
[03:09] <BikerMike> somsip thanks for these alts, will check them out. And so I just deleted my lock file *fingers-crossed*
[03:10] <somsip> BikerMike: np
[03:10] <Mneuro> Chrome is worth having and not in the software center
[03:10] <rem505> I d/l Chrome, but not Chromium.  The package installer told me that wouldn't work
[03:10] <Techspectre> Mneuro, that is true
[03:11] <rem505> told me Chromium wouldn't work on the 32 bit
[03:12] <Bashing-om> rem505: Google has dropped 32 bit support .
[03:12] <cfhowlett> Mneuro, chromium is the unbranded equivalent of chrome
[03:12] <rem505> So if I delete Chrome should I get a package to clean up?  Or Ubuntu clean up?
[03:13] <Techspectre> rem505, is trying to watch Netflix, which you can't do in base Chromium. Need the Google package.
[03:13] <rem505> I mean does Ubuntu do a good job of cleaning up?
[03:13] <Mneuro> cfhowlett, chromium does not work with netflix, something that was brought up
[03:14] <Techspectre> I mean there was that silverlight wrapper... but I'm not sure if it's still in development. Pipelight I think it was called
[03:14] <rem505> It doesn't matter b/c Chromium is 64 bit and I have 32 bit machine
[03:15] <reisio> incorrect, you can use chromium
[03:15] <reisio> you do need _some_ proprietary bits, however
[03:15] <reisio> rem505: what's your processor?
[03:15] <rem505> core2 duo
[03:15] <reisio> rem505: which model?
[03:16] <reisio> grep ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo
[03:16] <rem505> t5450?
[03:16] <rem505> 1.6
[03:17] <reisio> rem505: that's a 64-bit processor, so you could use a 64-bit install if you wanted
[03:18] <rem505> ok yeah, is it difficult to install 64 bit Lubuntu over the 32 bit?
[03:19] <cfhowlett> rem505, easy but .. you don't install "over" you will clean install
[03:27] <darkelfjuggalo> sudo apt-get distro-upgrade, correct?
[03:27] <cfhowlett> darkelfjuggalo, nope.  your upgrade windows has closed.  download .iso and clean install
[03:27] <rem505> I thought I found a link but it just says I need to reinstall
[03:27] <darkelfjuggalo> i just did a clean install at the beginning of this month
[03:27] <reisio> rem505: "reinstallation" is going to take the least amount of time
[03:27] <cfhowlett> darkelfjuggalo, as stated in the release notes: 15.04 had only 9 months of support
[03:27] <reisio> rem505: it's not as if you will have to do it again as long as amd64 is en vogue, which will still be some time
[03:28] <darkelfjuggalo> i only have this because the last LTS wouldn't install properly.
[03:31] <rem505> is there a ubuntu uninstall button?
[03:31] <reisio> rem505: huh?
[03:33] <rem505> Is there a way to get rid of the channel quits and joins?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> !quietirc | rem505
[03:34] <reisio> rem505: they should calm down soon, after the netsplit's run its course
[03:35] <reisio> you'd think the server could send a global notice when they're done so people can turn their parts back on :p
[03:35] <Gart_Iommu> rem505  set conference mode on
[03:35] <cfhowlett> Gart_Iommu, eh?  conference mode?
[03:36] <cfhowlett> hexchat = no conference mode
[03:38] <ramkam2013> Hi there.
[03:39] <reisio> hi here
[03:39] <ramkam2013> i'm getting something weird in my script. if i do cat "$file" i get the file content
[03:40] <ramkam2013> but if i do cat "$file | while read l; echo "$l"; done i get blanks
[03:40] <ramkam2013> wtf ?
[03:40] <somsip> ramkam2013: double quotes
[03:41] <middlenamery> I know it's probably not appropriate to ask for a direct solution, but how do I log all commands (root and not root) run on my ubuntu server installation? its for debugging purposes but for the life of me I cant figure out how to do it. Its pathetic but could anyone give me a step by step guide?
[03:41] <somsip> middlenamery: ~/.bash_history but it's easy to clear this so you may need something more robust depending on your needs
[03:41] <ramkam2013> somsip err, i too fast, it was :  cat "$file" | while read l; do echo "$l"; done
[03:41] <cfhowlett> middlenamery, experts in #ubuntu-server would know.  "keylogging" comes to mind, but ask anyway
[03:42] <reisio> ramkam2013: while IFS='' read l ?
[03:42] <middlenamery> Cool thanks guys!
[03:42] <ramkam2013> middlenamery: commands typed by the user ? checkout history
[03:44] <Divanshu> hi
[03:45] <ramkam2013> reisio: nope, same issue
[03:45] <Divanshu> hi
[03:45] <jushur> !ask Divanshu
[03:45] <jushur> !ask | Divanshu
[03:45] <cfhowlett> Divanshu, ask your questions
[03:45] <Divanshu> how can we connect to Internet in lye 12.04
[03:45] <Divanshu> lts
[03:46] <cfhowlett> !details | Divanshu,
[03:46] <Divanshu> et'show to connect to Internet in Ubuntu LTS 12.04 using wifi.
[03:48] <reisio> ramkam2013: what're you trying to do, again?
[03:49] <ramkam2013> reisio: apply an algo to each line of a file
[03:50] <ramkam2013> using pdfminer
[03:50] <ramkam2013> seems that the output of pdfminer has weirdo characters though
[03:50] <ramkam2013> i dump the output in a tmp file
[03:50] <ramkam2013> then process it line by line
[03:51] <ramkam2013> though, i suspect the text to contain odd chars
[03:51] <ramkam2013> how could i check or clean that ?
[03:52] <ramkam2013> oh ok, the text was in binary :D
[03:53] <jushur> ramkam2013: you cant read binary? /joke
[03:53] <ramkam2013> hum. How do i pipe the output of a command as ascii ?
[03:53] <reisio> ramkam2013: you might need
[03:53] <reisio> ramkam2013: for example, ; do pdfminer "$foo" < /dev/null
[03:53] <ramkam2013> i might need ?
[03:53] <reisio> some apps suck like that
[03:53] <ramkam2013> ah
[03:55] <Techspectre> File manager that can 1. Browse FTP    2. Search for files subfolders     3. View image thumbnails?
[03:56] <reisio> Techspectre: and you're saying "files" (nautilus) can't do 2?
[03:56] <Techspectre> reisio, it seems not
[03:57] <reisio> Techspectre: you can probably give it a content menu item using catfish or the like, for example, if it truly doesn't (which I'm not sure I believe)
[03:57] <Techspectre> it can only search in the current folder only, or search all folders on the machine
[03:57] <reisio> might ask #gnome about how it can
[03:57] <reisio> nothing will be simpler than grep -ilr foo . though
[03:59] <Techspectre> reisio, while that may be true we're at the point where we really shouldn't have to use a command for that
[04:05] <reisio> Techspectre: I agree, and I'd honestly be surprised if it doesn't already do what you want
[04:05] <jushur> Techspectre: you mean the world where nobody knows how to do things, and asks others how to do it? and then complain that its not "easy enough"? (lazy ppl..)
[04:05] <reisio> though it's possible you have to toggle some magical hidden gnome pref for it
[04:05] <reisio> GNOME likes stuff like that; hence asking #gnome
[04:07] <darkelfjuggalo> cfhowlett: my software updater is upgrading for me now after i manually checked for updates...
[04:08] <Techspectre> jushur, in the world where the absence of critical features like this works against Linux adoption
[04:09] <ramkam2013> reisio: didnt work. but this did the trick | tr -cd '[[:alnum:]]._-–\n'
[04:09] <LambdaComplex> jushur: sounds right
[04:10] <reisio> ramkam2013: sounds like something you shouldn't have to do, but gj
[04:10] <ramkam2013> reisio: yes, it shouldnt'
[04:10] <ramkam2013> but probably the pdfmining is dumping non ascii chars (though there's a text option, but hell, it's not changing anything)
[04:11] <ramkam2013> so the fs is considering it as binary
[04:11] <ramkam2013> this is really weird
[04:11] <ramkam2013> and i wonder if i'm not going to break things
[04:11] <ramkam2013> anyway
[04:11] <reisio> ramkam2013: what do you mean to do with pdfminer's output?
[04:12] <ramkam2013> pdf2txt.py -t text -m 5 "$filepath" | grep -i isbn | tr "[a-z]" "[A-Z]" | sed "s/ISBN//g" | tr " " "\0" | tr -cd '[[:alnum:]]._-–\n' > "$tmp"
[04:12] <reisio> to do what, in the end?
[04:12] <LambdaComplex> Techspectre: what about pcmanfm?
[04:13] <ramkam2013> grab isbn data
[04:13] <reisio> ramkam2013: would pdfgrep alone not suffice?
[04:13] <ramkam2013> didnt know that one
[04:13] <ramkam2013> lemme check :)
[04:13] <reisio> sounds like a "grep" is kinda what you're after
[04:14] <ramkam2013> looks nice
[04:14] <reisio> the only quirk I've found with pdfgrep, is sometimes you'll want 2>/dev/null for output you're reading in real-time (obviously won't matter for redirected/logged output)
[04:14] <ramkam2013> dependancies are weird, like sqlite :-)
[04:15] <reisio> hrmmm, I'm not sure that's an upstream dep
[04:15]  * reisio shrugs
[04:15] <reisio> nice util, though
[04:15] <reisio> saves me from opening PDFs all the time
[04:16] <ramkam2013> heh
[04:16] <reisio> which I hate
[04:16] <ramkam2013> :-)
[04:16] <reisio> because PDF is awful
[04:16] <ramkam2013> me too
[04:16] <ramkam2013> ah
[04:16] <ramkam2013> pdf is awfull :-)
[04:16] <ramkam2013> but, available ...
[04:16] <reisio> most awful things are
[04:16] <reisio> what, after, is awful about an awful thing that isn't available :p
[04:17] <ramkam2013> that's called a nightmare
[04:18] <reisio> what, after all*, eben
[04:19] <ramkam2013> ya lost me :-)
[04:20] <reisio> what, after all, is awful about an awful thing that isn't available :p
[04:20] <reisio> what I meant to say, typoz
[04:20] <ramkam2013> but, googling it made me find back something i lost - https://www.ted.com/talks/eben_bayer_are_mushrooms_the_new_plastic?language=fr
[04:21]  * ramkam2013 killall late-night-quiz-answering-deamon
[04:21] <reisio> heh
[04:22] <ramkam2013> heh
[04:22] <ramkam2013> :-)
[04:22] <reisio> mushrooms are the old delicious
[04:22] <ramkam2013> well, i hope that ikea makes the same mistake than adidas
[04:23] <ramkam2013> http://www.thesmokersclub.com/blog/check-adidas-hemp-shoe/
[04:23] <ramkam2013> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/businessandecology/recycling/12172439/Ikea-plans-mushroom-based-packaging-as-eco-friendly-replacement-for-polystyrene.html
[04:23] <ramkam2013> ok ops, don't kick me, trying to make some jokes
[04:26] <reisio> heh
[04:26] <reisio> I like the rare ted talks about something actually useful and not just a way for someone to make cash :p
[04:26] <Ashokkumar> hi my lenovo AIO is not booting ubuntu 14.04 after erase and install, previously it had windows 8
[04:26] <Ashokkumar> any help?
[04:26] <reisio> also I'd buy a hemp shoe if I could find one (and in my size [and affordable]); stupid hemp growing laws
[04:27] <reisio> Ashokkumar: after installing ubuntu 14?
[04:27] <Ashokkumar> reisio: yes, pressing F12 (boot option) doesnot show hard disk at all
[04:29] <django_> how can i run this bashscript
[04:29] <django_> https://toolbelt.heroku.com/install-ubuntu.sh
[04:29] <jushur> bricked due to ereased efi fimrware. gg
[04:30] <reisio> django_: doubt that'd be a good idea
[04:30] <django_> reisio, why
[04:30] <oxxen> Hi
[04:30] <LambdaComplex> django_: because installing things with a random shell script rather than your package manager is somewhere between dangerous and stupid
[04:31] <django_> :o
[04:31] <django_> this is heroku toolbetl cmon
[04:31] <jushur> django_: LambdaComplex is being a bit nice now, it realy are totaly stupid..
[04:31] <Ben64> django_: go do whatever you want, but don't come back in here if everything goes plaid
[04:32] <django_> how do i find heroku toolbelt on package manager
[04:32] <django_> synaptic package manager right?
[04:32] <oxxen> I have W7 Ultimate, and i need to install ubuntu 14.04 while keeping windows, when i boot from usb everything is ok until i get to the part i have to choose how to install, it doesn't give me the option to keep both, only to erase everything or manage partitions. Why?
[04:32] <LambdaComplex> If there's a need to add something to the sources list then I kinda doubt it's in the official repos
[04:33] <LambdaComplex> oxxen: Lack of free space?
[04:33] <LambdaComplex> That's my first guess
[04:33] <oxxen> 330 gb's free
[04:33] <jushur> django_: read the script, and do it manualy? (add repo and then install the package..)
[04:33] <oxxen> When i enter partition manager it only shows me 2, the "windows 7 loader" and an unknown one with 330 gb free
[04:34] <oxxen> and i have 0 exp with partitionating, so i dont want to get on thing idk about
[04:34] <oxxen> partitioning* sorry for my english u_u
[04:35] <jushur> django_: just so you know, the naming of that script sort of implied it was to install ubuntu. and not the application of that site.
[04:35] <ramkam2013> reisio: uh, pdfgrep has unmet deps on 14.04
[04:36] <django_> is this  safe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/556685/how-to-download-and-install-heroku
[04:37] <Ben64> django_: same amount of unsafe as you were told above
[04:38] <ramkam2013> hum. Calling it a night
[04:38] <ramkam2013> cheers all!
[04:38] <django_> lol
[04:38] <ramkam2013> gn
[04:38] <oxxen> LambdaComplex: Any idea of what can be happening there? ;;
[04:38] <reisio> ramkam2013: :)
[04:38] <jushur> the script he wanted to use was to install a repo for the site/application.
[04:39] <ramkam2013> reisio: i think i broke things when i tried to have ffmpeg
[04:39] <reisio> django_: what is it you want heroku for
[04:39] <django_> reisio, run an app on it
[04:39] <reisio> to do what
[04:40] <ramkam2013> heroku - reminds me of something. there's a nice little tool that allows to expose a node js to the outside world, like when you want to do oauth2 without making stuff on the router
[04:41] <ramkam2013> any1 remembers which ?
[04:45] <Bluewolf> Hi all, In reference to "Ubuntu on smartphones", is the software installable on any android based mobile devices or specific ones, which is determined by the manufacturers?
[04:46] <xangua> ! Touch | Bluewolf
[04:47] <reisio> Bluewolf: specific devices only, for to-metal installs
[04:47] <reisio> there's also a chroot approach that can work theoretically on any android install you have the access for, but I can't say I'd recommend it
[04:47] <Guest76274> So, why does Firefox have upscaling issues with images?
[04:47] <jushur> Bluewolf: http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/02/19/community-collaborates-on-new-convergent-ubuntu-phones/
[04:47] <Guest76274> Specifically on Ubuntu?
[04:51] <munch_Marcell> Does anyone have a fix for Firefox's scaling issue with images
[04:51] <munch_Marcell> That doesn't exist in Chrome
[04:52] <jushur> !details | munch_Marcell
[04:53] <munch_Marcell> Why does zooming on an image specifically in Firefox, despite the image being a high resolution image, not display properly in Firefox
[04:53] <Bluewolf> reisio: Okay so it cant just be installed on any smartphone. That sucks.
[04:54] <munch_Marcell> Why do downscaling/upscaling issues exist in Firefox?
[04:55] <jushur> Bluewolf: not true, it can. but it req knowledge of great depth of the device to fix issues.
[04:56] <jushur> munch_Marcell: i have no such issues here. 1K, 2K & 4K screen's.
[04:56] <reisio> munch_Marcell: ?
[04:56] <reisio> Bluewolf: yup, but it's an artificial problem, really
[04:56] <reisio> Bluewolf: vote with your purchases, and it'll go away
[04:57] <munch_Marcell> jushur: Specifically in Google photos, I can't zoom into a photo without it looking terrible
[04:57] <reisio> munch_Marcell: that's an unavoidable, fundamental issue with upscaling any bitmap
[04:57] <reisio> there will only be so much resolution
[04:58] <munch_Marcell> reisio: Here's a thought, why do I have no such issues in Chrome?
[04:58] <reisio> munch_Marcell: you do, you just aren't noticing them, because Chrome is blurring the image to make you think it isn't happening
[04:58] <jushur> munch_Marcell: are you realy supriced? its made by google. uses their own code. is specialy tailored to use things only google chrome has support for.
[04:58] <munch_Marcell> Why is it specifically Firefox? I'm zooming in on the same photos in two different browsers, and only one of them doesn't show it correctly
[04:58] <Bluewolf> jushur: Yeah that could prove to be an issue, again that sucks. Should be "simply" available for install on most phones.
[04:58] <Bluewolf> reisio: Indeed, I would get the phones their already work with, "big" problem is, I don't fancy them :(
[04:59] <reisio> Bluewolf: some are fanciable, you'll find one
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:59] <munch_Marcell> reisio: So I'm just noticing it in Firefox only is what your saying?
[05:00] <jushur> Bluewolf: i have oneplus one phones, one with stock android from the cyngn.com and one with ubuntu on. and am working on geting a bsd* install "working" on a third.
[05:01] <jushur> Bluewolf: "simple" does not play well for me, i dislike that thinking a lot. "working" is more of my prefference.
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> jushur: #ubuntu-touch for mobile discussion
[05:02] <Bluewolf> reisio: Fingers crossed.
[05:02] <Bluewolf> jushur: I would like Ubuntu on a mobile device, but I really am not keen on spending hours on the chats trying to get it installed properly.
[05:02] <munch_Marcell> I'm not sure your understanding what I'm asking, I'm asking if there's a work around for something Chrome can do, that Firefox can't. I'm talking about high resolution images that does not show all of the information that's there
[05:02] <munch_Marcell> It's not a problem with the image itself, because all of the information is there. It's the brower
[05:02] <munch_Marcell> browser*
[05:02] <reisio> Bluewolf: don't get caught up with Ubuntu in your search, either; any phone that runs GNU/Linux and can have its OS replaced will suffice
[05:03] <Bluewolf> reisio: cool
[05:03] <jushur> munch_Marcell: yes, and it wont be fixed by asking us about it. its firefox developer design.
[05:04] <munch_Marcell> jushur: So in other words, I asked a question that you can't really answer, but you know who can?
[05:05] <reisio> Bluewolf: arguablly even any phone that runs Linux (even without GNU) that can have its OS replaced; as virtually all the hardware issues are covered in the kernel
[05:05] <reisio> arguably*
[05:06] <jushur> munch_Marcell: no, i belive the question is more of the mixed answer kind. partly depending on the page you view. and partly of the underlying application you use. in this case firefox. we are not firefox developers. so dont ask us about it. and the page is clearly not ubuntu specific.
[05:07] <Bluewolf> reisio: The software works on just about any device right?
[05:07] <munch_Marcell> jushur: It is, because even Firefox on Windows doesn't have this issue
[05:07] <munch_Marcell> It's specifically in Ubuntu
[05:07] <reisio> Bluewolf: once you have harware support, the rest is basically gravy
[05:08] <Bluewolf> reisio: Yey me! :)
[05:08] <reisio> hardddddware* meh
[05:08] <de-facto> when using chromium browser to download large files, can i somehow reduce the bandwidth available to chromium (e.g. for using the other bandwidth for ssh or such)?
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> de-facto: maybe a download manager?
[05:09] <reisio> de-facto: yes, various ways
[05:10] <reisio> de-facto: trickle is one fairly simple approach
[05:10] <jushur> munch_Marcell: I have machines running ubuntu/arch/gentoo/funtoo/freebsd/dragonflybsd here, and none of them has the issue you say. so its clearly on your side/config/hardware setup.
[05:10] <Gart_Iommu> it would be much simpler to use a downloader that supports throttling
[05:11] <son-goku> hello anyone know how can i solve this issue? https://dpaste.de/pFdZ
[05:11] <Gart_Iommu> but maybe it would be enough to renice chromium to 20 ?
[05:11] <munch_Marcell> jushur: Your telling me your using Google Photos?
[05:11] <ferrocene> hey guys, xubuntu 14.04, i took a working 2TB sata drive out of my PC and stuck it in a USB3 enclosure (tested fine with another SATA drive), ubuntu detects the USB device but finds no block device on it?  http://pastebin.com/DgWgUsGU
[05:12] <de-facto> reisio hmm how can i use trickle on chromium?
[05:13] <Ben64> ferrocene: pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"
[05:13] <ferrocene> parted doens't see it
[05:13] <son-goku> when i run sudo apt-get update it shows this error : https://dpaste.de/pFdZ
[05:14] <ferrocene> nor does /dev/sd*
[05:14] <Ben64> ferrocene: plug it into usb2
[05:14] <munch_Marcell> The biggest issue people on Linux have with Chrome is that they are supposedly stealing my data, but at least the damn thing works. I've encountered issue after issue with this damn OS. Even running WoW doesn't work without a stupid issue I have to try and research and figure out
[05:15] <munch_Marcell> This is a game that has been around for over a decade, and yet it doesn't work in an updated Linux OS with so much support that it's reaching Tablets and Phones in a big way.
[05:15] <reisio> de-facto: it has two modes, daemon-based with a list and explicit; the explicit way is, for example: trickle -d 750 chromium
[05:15] <jushur> ferrocene: the port you have the usb3 connected to is usb3 and can supply the AMP it needs? (note laptop drives usualy works very well, but desktop disks may need more AMP)
[05:15] <Ben64> munch_Marcell: what is your point
[05:15] <ferrocene> Well shit, USB2 works like a champ
[05:16] <ferrocene> thanks.  any reason why?  it's a USB3 enclosure with a large fat USB3 cable (the bulge on the end) pluged into a usb3 blue port on the mobo
[05:16] <Ben64> ferrocene: some usb3 is wonky still
[05:17] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: That I was told how awesome Linux was, but I was pretty much told a lie. Years ago, a friend was bragging how it could be used for gaming, but nothing has worked
[05:17] <ferrocene> ok.  it's a powered enclosure, so it should be getting power
[05:17] <jushur> ferrocene: out of spec usb3 implementations. they differ a lot basicly.
[05:17] <Ben64> munch_Marcell: then don't use it? this is a support channel, not a complaint department
[05:17] <ferrocene> weird that the 450GB works but the 2TB doens't.
[05:18] <jushur> ferrocene: the chipset in the usb3 enclosure may be unable to handle big drives.
[05:18] <ferrocene> jushur: makes sense.  thanks!
[05:18] <jushur> ferrocene: none of my desktop usb3 can handle my 8TB drives for example.
[05:18] <BikerMike> So in my frustration, I've gathered my newbie myself to draft something in the forum, thank you #ubuntu for allowing me to ask here. I fully appreciate your patience and support! http://j.mp/1UAr8me
[05:19] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: Thanks
[05:19] <ferrocene> yeah.  i just added an additional 6TB drive, so the 2TB got bumped to the external.
[05:19] <de-facto> reisio yeah i just tried that one (explicit way), it seems to complain about trickled not running then "Using PPAPI flash.", but my already running chromium-browser still downloads with full speed
[05:20] <de-facto> woudl i have to close all instances of it and start it again via trickle or something?
[05:20] <de-facto> or somehow install that daemon from somewhere?
[05:20] <reisio> de-facto: yup
[05:20] <reisio> either use the daemon, or restart the process/es
[05:20] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: Can you at least tell me the Developer's Channels?
[05:21] <de-facto> reisio how can i use that daemon? where does it live?
[05:21] <Ben64> munch_Marcell: if you ask a question, you can get help here
[05:22] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: I just did...and I have yet to get an answer
[05:22] <Ben64> munch_Marcell: developer for what, and why
[05:23] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: WHAT IS THE DEVELOPER CHANNEL FOR FIREFOX?
[05:23] <jushur> !rude | munch_Marcell
[05:23] <Ben64> munch_Marcell: you should work on that attitude, and then maybe we can fix your issues
[05:23] <de-facto> hmm
[05:23] <reisio> de-facto: dpkg -L would know, probably
[05:24] <son-goku> :/
[05:24] <de-facto> something like "trickled -d 50 -u 5 -f -N 5" does not have any effect on download either
[05:24] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: Basically was told that no one here can fix my issue
[05:24] <son-goku> https://dpaste.de/pFdZ  <<< error while running sudo apt-get update. Any short and easy fix?
[05:25] <Ben64> munch_Marcell: maybe because you still haven't said what the issue is
[05:25] <munch_Marcell> Literally asked what the Developer channel was several times
[05:25] <munch_Marcell> I did, in detail
[05:25] <Ben64> all i saw was complaining about linux, WoW, and yelling
[05:25] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: Firefox does not show/downscale
[05:25] <munch_Marcell> Images in Google Photos
[05:25] <de-facto> reisio thanks for hinting me to trickle i will play around with it, sounds like exactly what i need (if it works ;)
[05:26] <reisio> de-facto: should work fine
[05:26] <reisio> de-facto: actually, now that I think about it
[05:26] <reisio> de-facto: you might /have/ to use the daemon for chromium and other browsers, which spawn multiple new processes, for new tabs and plugins and the like
[05:26] <reisio> though it should work fine without the daemon for single instances
[05:26] <Ben64> munch_Marcell: can you explain what you mean by that
[05:27] <munch_Marcell> jushur: You haven't seen rude. You have seen irritation. I have been running into issue after issue with Ubuntu, and no help for any of them
[05:27] <Ben64> munch_Marcell: the people here are volunteers. being nice goes a long way
[05:27] <jushur> munch_Marcell: i gave you a clear answer on why actually. you ignored it? the site/page you talk about uses code that is designed specificaly for google chrome.
[05:27] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: High resolution images when I zoom are blurry. I opened up chrome, and with the same photos, was able to view them fine
[05:27] <ferrocene> son-goku: Architectures: amd64
[05:28] <ferrocene> son-goku: Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages'
[05:28] <reisio> munch_Marcell: there are only two explanations for that: 1) your imagination 2) Google giving its own browser and unfair, artificial advantage on purpose
[05:28] <reisio> I'm not sure which is more likely, or even that they're mutually exclusive
[05:28] <reisio> browser an* unfair
[05:28]  * reisio sighs
[05:28] <jushur> munch_Marcell: if i say your rude, that means i consider you to be. right? writing in all caps i do consider being rude. its like if i takea megaphone and stand in your face using it. shouting at you.
[05:29] <munch_Marcell> reisio: How is it my imagination is an explanation for why a photo does not view properly in a browser?
[05:29] <reisio> munch_Marcell: people imagine all sorts of things
[05:29] <Ben64> munch_Marcell: i'm comparing my firefox to chrome, photo looks exactly the same
[05:29] <reisio> I wouldn't expect you or most people, for example, to be experts in comparing photo quality or rendering
[05:30] <munch_Marcell> reisio: I'm not an expert, and I can see a difference. I'm not coding, I'm looking at an image. No imagination mixed with knowledge of a programming language required
[05:30] <dw1> so on lubuntu i can just apt-get install unity and have unity?
[05:31] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: Are you talking about a high resolution image in both browsers showing exactly the same zooming in?
[05:31] <reisio> munch_Marcell: so you say :)
[05:31] <reisio> dw1: generally, yes
[05:31] <dw1> unity on liveusb runs better than LXDE :/
[05:31] <munch_Marcell> reisio: I'm sorry, are you saying I need imagination to see?
[05:31] <dw1> wonder if it's my slow SSD causing that
[05:31] <reisio> dw1: unity tends to be accelerated
[05:31] <de-facto> reisio yeah i will start that daemon before using chromium next time (right now it has too many open tabs). maybe then it has some effect
[05:31] <reisio> dw1: also, live environments tend to run from RAM, which is further accelerated
[05:31] <reisio> dw1: but only as much as you can run in ram
[05:32] <munch_Marcell> reisio: What part of light reflection, and pattern recognition done in great part by a human brain requires imagination?
[05:32] <Ben64> munch_Marcell: yep
[05:32] <dw1> this old netbook still truckin. i thought unity would be too much but it seems ok
[05:32] <reisio> munch_Marcell: whole other topic
[05:32] <dw1> ill disable some fx if possible
[05:32] <reisio> dw1: intel has come a long way in graphics acceleration
[05:32] <jushur> dw1: unity uses compiz, wich uses composite. wich means the hardware/gpu will have to work. thus it feels faster.
[05:32] <reisio> back in the day you would've needed a dedicated amd or nvidia device
[05:33] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: Perfect, then it's just me for some stupid reason
[05:33] <reisio> arguably it /is/ faster, if you're comparing unused graphics hardware to used
[05:33] <reisio> but only if the hardware is up to it in the first place
[05:35] <dw1> so LXDE doesnt use it? :/
[05:36] <reisio> dw1: indeed not
[05:36] <reisio> part of Lubuntu's mandate, AIUI, is for it to work on systems that haven't hardware graphics acceleration
[05:36] <rem505> so it wasn't so bad
[05:36] <reisio> so it'd not really be appropriate
[05:37] <dw1> true
[05:37] <jushur> dw1: it uses cpu cycles to do the drawing. and some gfx abilities. it does not have a backend that uses a fully hardware accelerated engine like compiz does. that is the difference.
[05:37] <reisio> also Unity (as distinct from compiz) requires a hefty portion of GNOME
[05:37] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: How about more details please? Firefox version?
[05:37] <Ben64> munch_Marcell: latest
[05:38] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: .....can you verify the version please?
[05:39] <Ben64> its the latest
[05:39] <rem505> now I can watch Bad Grandpa
[05:40] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: So in other words, you and I have the same browser, but yours is doing something mines is not
[05:41] <Ben64> depends if you have the latest
[05:42] <jushur> munch_Marcell: if you launch your firefox with a "-p" and make a new profile. use  that and view the photos. (100% clean profile no addons etc) does it still look bad for you?
[05:42] <munch_Marcell> Ben64: Unless 44.0.2 is not the latest, something is wrong here
[05:42] <Ben64> jushur: good idea
[05:43] <munch_Marcell> jushur: Actually a good idea, thank you
[05:44] <munch_Marcell> jushur: Where is it installed for me to open firefox in the terminal?
[05:45] <jushur> munch_Marcell: just open a terminal, write "firefox -p"
[05:45] <wafflejock> munch_Marcell: would be helpful if you linked to an example photo that shows the problem or take a screenshot to illustrate your issue, either way it's not really an ubuntu issue if it's a bug in firefox, they do have an issue/bug tracker though, so you can see if it's a known issue or file a bug if it is an issue https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/describecomponents.cgi
[05:45] <munch_Marcell> Let me ask you guys for your opinion, is it worth it for a gamer to use Ubuntu?
[05:46] <yufw> could someone tell me how to install libsystemd-journal-dev?
[05:46] <yufw> apt-cache search doesn't show any result, but I can see it is in the repo on the web.
[05:47] <loller123> Im installing Ubuntu 14.04 LTS alongside Windows7 Ultimate, but i get this warning http://i63.tinypic.com/rbfynm.png
[05:47] <loller123> Should i continue_
[05:47] <munch_Marcell> jushur: Well....didn't seem to work at all
[05:47] <loller123> ?*
[05:47] <ofan> Hello, I just installed ubuntu 15.10 in vmware workstation, got everything setup except a minor problem with the sound, if I only use ssh to login, the vm doesn't play any sound, but as soon as I login through vmware's window it starts playing, anyone knows why?
[05:48] <wafflejock> yufw: what's your lsb_release -a ?
[05:48] <yufw> wafflejock: I am using 15.10
[05:49] <wafflejock> yufw: I don't see it in the packages search here http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libsystemd-journal-dev&searchon=names&suite=wily&section=all
[05:49] <jushur> munch_Marcell: my gaming machine i run gentoo and/or funtoo on, for performance/tweak reasons. (kinda advanced compared to ubuntu) and i run windows in a VM with a pcie gpu card passtrough to the VM. so i have full hardware accel on my games.
[05:50] <yufw> wafflejock: how about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+package/libsystemd-journal-dev
[05:50] <jushur> munch_Marcell: that is as i run windows only game, if you want to run say steamgames id say ubuntu is fine.
[05:51] <munch_Marcell> jushur: apparently for everyone but me
[05:51] <yufw> wafflejock: then what package should I install to provide the same function?
[05:51] <jushur> munch_Marcell: what do you mean? steam does not work well for you?
[05:51] <loller123> ;n;
[05:52] <munch_Marcell> jushur: Haven't tried steam. WoW doesn't run well. Settings keep reseting and can't get help for that either
[05:53] <jushur> munch_Marcell: i dont use "wine" at all, as i dont like it. i have run it a few years back and it was some work to get it to "work" properly.
[05:53] <wafflejock> yufw: sorry no good answer for ya http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libsystemd-journal-dev&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all <-- looks like available in vivid or trusty but don't see it for wily not sure why it shows on launchpad, maybe "transitional" means it was temporary?
[05:55] <wafflejock> munch_Marcell: personal opinion on that is if it's on Steam it typically works well and isn't any sort of fiddling around, but they don't have everything (though polling is generally not allowed in here, take regular chat not direct support issues to #ubuntu-offtopic)
[05:56] <munch_Marcell> I sincerely apologize for my rudeness. Have not had a good year last year, and with all the issues I can't fix I really got worked up. No excuse
[05:59] <loller123> Im installing Ubuntu 14.04 LTS alongside Windows7 Ultimate, but i get this warning http://i63.tinypic.com/rbfynm.png // Should I proceed?
[06:01] <loller123> !es
[06:07] <dejavou42> libc6-i386 is causing a kernel panic when dpkg atttempts to configure. I can't install anything/uninstall anything because dpkg was interupted.
[06:07] <dejavou42> what can I do to fix this broken package?
[06:07] <Scunizi> am i visible?
[06:07] <loller123> Im installing Ubuntu 14.04 LTS alongside Windows7 Ultimate, but i get this warning http://i63.tinypic.com/rbfynm.png Should i proceed? T-T
[06:07] <dejavou42> nope :)
[06:08] <dejavou42> scunizi: you would get a message saying unable to send to channel if you weren't
[06:08] <Scunizi> dejavou42: :) thanks
[06:10] <dejavou42> loller123: do you have anything sensitive on the windows partition?
[06:10] <dejavou42> ie files you don't want to lose
[06:10] <loller123> No
[06:10] <loller123> It's a clean windows install
[06:11] <dejavou42> how did you format the hard drive originally?
[06:12] <loller123> Don't know, it's a new computer
[06:12] <loller123> it's not even mine
[06:12] <dejavou42> open up a terminal and run sudo fdisk -l
[06:12] <dejavou42> and pastebin the result
[06:13] <loller123> ok
[06:13] <loller123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15272190/
[06:14] <loller123> I'm on ubuntu now
[06:15] <loller123> sdb1 is the flash drive from where im booting the os
[06:15] <dejavou42> yes that was evident
[06:16] <ubuntu-mate> aa
[06:16] <loller123> Oh i sended a screenshot, forgot about that a_a
[06:16] <dejavou42> k so here's what will happen. windows takes up the entire partition currently. Ubuntu will try to compress the windows partition, and install ubuntu in the extra space
[06:17] <loller123> Ok
[06:17] <loller123> So
[06:17] <dejavou42> In a perfect world, you should continue, but make sure you have the restore cd's for windows incase it doesn't go so well
[06:17] <loller123> Netbook qwq
[06:18] <loller123> Gotta download the iso
[06:18] <loller123> Well, ill do
[06:18] <loller123> Notice if something wrong happens
[06:18] <loller123> Ty dejavou42  :3
[06:18] <dejavou42> np
[06:21] <loller123> I've always had a doubt, is there a way to clear ram in linux like window's Ram.vbe?
[06:22] <Ben64> loller123: no and you don't need to
[06:22] <dejavou42> hmmm why would you want to do that?
[06:22] <loller123> Who knows, just wanted to know
[06:23] <loller123> Ben64: Why not?
[06:23] <dejavou42> loller123: ram is not retentive memory, when the power goes off it clears
[06:23] <loller123> I need to learn a lot :T
[06:23] <Ben64> loller123: there just isn't a reason to
[06:24] <loller123> Well, i have 5 years to learn :v
[06:27] <dejavou42> dpkg --configure -a results in a kernel panic everytime. It is trying to set up libc6-i386, anyone know how I can fix this package?
[06:27] <Ben64> dejavou42: explain what you're doing fully
[06:28] <dejavou42> dpkg was interrupted.
[06:28] <dejavou42> I can't install any applications without first running dpkg --configure -a
[06:29] <dejavou42> the first thing dpkg attempts to configure is libc6-i386, and it results in an immediate kernel panic every time
[06:29] <Seveas> dejavou42: your system is hosed. If *that* causes a kernel panic you either have a hardware issue or there's something seriously bonkers about the installed software.
[06:29] <Seveas> dejavou42: can you take a photo of the panic and pastebin it?
[06:30] <dejavou42> hmmm I'm doubting hardware issue highly
[06:30] <dejavou42> I'm currently using the system right now, and nothing existing is affected
[06:30] <dejavou42> I'll try to pastebin
[06:30] <dejavou42> may take me a minute to catch it
[06:33] <Guest19554> Hello everyone
[06:33] <loller123> Hi
[06:33] <Guest19554> where do you come from?
[06:34] <Guest19554> btw..I'm from China
[06:34] <loller123> Narnia
[06:34] <loller123> just kidding, Argentina
[06:34] <dejavou42> back
[06:35] <Guest19554> it's so glad to be here.this is my first time i chat on this channel.and i feel so excited now.
[06:35] <Guest19554> so do you speak Spanish?right?
[06:35] <loller123> Yes
[06:36] <loller123> But #ubuntu-es is dead qwq
[06:36] <Guest19554> that's nice
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> Guest19554: please only use this channel for support questions
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> Guest19554: regular chat goes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:40] <loller123> Time for truth, ill try windows
[06:41] <dejavou42> http://picpaste.com/2ce0d0a9f9f285b1c1d22a9c2cb4354e.JPG
[06:41] <dejavou42> here is the pastebin of the kernel panic
[06:42] <d3m0n> I am trying to run chown as root from a script that's executed by a non super user by getting UID to root but still getting permission denied. Is this impossible to do?
[06:42] <d3m0n> s/getting/setting
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> !chown | d3m0n
[06:44] <Seveas> dejavou42: ok, that's more likely to be a software issue. Can you please pastebin the output of: dpkg -l | grep -v '^[a-z][a-z]'
[06:45] <d3m0n> lotuspsychje thanks but I am trying to avoid sudo and I dont want the user executing to script to be a super user
[06:45] <loller123_> dejavou42: You have all the gratitude that a 13 years old boy can give to someone.
[06:46] <Ben64> d3m0n: how do you expect that to work then
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | loller123_
[06:46] <d3m0n> Ben64: I assumed that's what setting the UID was meant for
[06:46] <dejavou42> seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15272246/
[06:46] <Ben64> d3m0n: what do you mean setting the uid
[06:48] <loller123_> Sorry
[06:48] <d3m0n> Ben64 sticky uid as root
[06:49] <Seveas> dejavou42: time to do something drastic. in /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6:i386.postinst, add a line just below the shbang that just says exit 0
[06:50] <Seveas> dejavou42: that'll allow the dpkg --configure -A to complete. After that do an apt-get dist-upgrade to make sure you have the latest version of all packages
[06:50] <Seveas> dejavou42: and after that apt-get install --reinstall libc6:i386
[06:51] <dejavou42> k added the line. I'm going to try it
[06:51] <dejavou42> bam dpkg complete
[06:52] <dejavou42> completed*
[06:53] <dejavou42> hmm the weird thing is that I'm already on 14.04.1
[06:54] <dejavou42> I upgraded distros some time back, and I have installed packages since
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> dejavou42: upgrade to 14.04.4
[06:55] <dejavou42> ahhh. lol I need to keep up
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> dejavou42: your in danger like this...
[07:04] <dejavou42> Seveas: thanks for the help. my system is fixed.
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[07:16] <Seveas> dejavou42: you're welcome :) the apt-get install --reinstall also worked?
[07:16] <Seveas> [AN]onymous: this channel does not accept illegal activity.
[07:16] <dejavou42> I didn't have to, there was a newer package installed during dist-upgrade
[07:17] <Seveas> dejavou42: maybe it even had a bugfix for this issue :)
[07:18] <dejavou42> possibly.
[07:19] <dejavou42> I would think that there would be a ton of posts on a bug like that though. Maybe something just got corrupt...
[08:02] <Dylan____> Hey guys
[08:04] <Dylan____> Hey
[08:19] <MegaManSec> is there a nice way to close all notify-osd notifications via the commandline?
[08:20] <linuxlove> hello guys
[08:22] <linuxlove> does exist a script that handle changes in ip with domain that i have downloaded from a website i got to redirect to new website for free dns and they just offer software for windows how can i use that script for new website ?
[08:27] <ubone> how to have different email accounts in sylpheed in Folder pane like thunderbird?
[08:41] <user1__> Is there a limit to do 'whois' for domains on ubuntu?
[08:49] <qwerkus> Hello, I setup a simple samba fileserver based on the minimal iso, and ended up with over 100 different process running in the background. Is there a way to clean this up ? How can I find which ones are required, and which are not ?
[08:49] <irkf> hi
[08:49] <irkf> whats up
[08:55] <Jordan_U> qwerkus: Start by running "systemctl" to see what units are running.
 thanks for your reply. I m running 14.04 - no systemd yet.
[08:59] <rilleh> qwerkus: 100 processes related to samba?
 no, 106 process alltogether
[09:00] <rilleh> Well, that's normal for a regular system
[09:01] <AlexPortable> How can I Get internet to work on my laptop?
[09:01] <AlexPortable> I tried sudo modprobe e1000e EEE=0
 too bad. This is a 24/7 system, and I would have liked to optimize performance vs power usage. For an instance, I don't need 6tty consoles, do I ?
[09:03] <rilleh> qwerkus: I would say Ubuntu is not the dist you should use if you want to optimize down to that level
 good point. Back to debian, eh ?
 first step: identify your NIC
[09:06] <AlexPortable> qwerkus: on windows the driver for 'Intel 82579LM and 82579V' works
 well, intel NICs should work out of the box in ubuntu. Check the output of ifconfig/iwconfig to see if the driver module is properly loaded, and than move to the setup /dhcp, wpasupplicant etc)
[09:08] <AlexPortable> ifconfig shows lo only
[09:09] <AlexPortable> qwerkus how do I see if the driver module is propery loaded?
[09:09] <AlexPortable> wired internet
 lsmod
 lsmod shows which modules are loaded, ifconfig that networks interfaces are actually working
[09:11] <AlexPortable> ifconfig shows lo
 that one would seriously worry me. You sure you did not disable networking somewhere, like in the Bios or nm-applet ?
[09:12] <AlexPortable> http://pastebin.com/dRcrgq37
[09:12] <AlexPortable> nope, it works on windows
[09:13] <AlexPortable> clean install, issue is persistant across live usb 14.04, 16.04 and 15.10
[09:13] <AlexPortable> the pastebin is the output of lsmod
[09:14] <qwerkus> you can alwaya try the official intel howto: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/ethernet-products/000005480.html
[09:15] <qwerkus> also, you may try a lspci, to see what the system lists as NIC devices
[09:16] <Xelarmen> Merhaba
[09:17] <Xelarmen> Merhaba
[09:17] <Xelarmen> Merhaba
[09:20] <AlexPortable> qwerkus: i did load
 sure, what I mean is you could try the lastest official intel version of your NIC module. Remove the current one, download, compile and load the new module. See if that works. Please make sure beforehands that it is supposed to support your NIC.
[09:24] <AlexPortable> I did
[09:24] <AlexPortable> http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/ethernet-products/000005480.html#build_e1e
[09:24] <AlexPortable> i followed the tutorial here
[09:24] <AlexPortable> but im stuck on this step Assign an IP address to the interface by entering the following, where <x> is the interface number:""
[09:24] <AlexPortable> there is no other interface than lo
[09:25] <qwerkus> that means the driver did not load properly, and something went wrong
[09:25] <AlexPortable> how can I repair it?
[09:25] <qwerkus> Told you: apart from try the latest internel module, I don't see how
[09:26] <qwerkus> *intel
[09:26] <AlexPortable> where can i get the latest official intel?
[09:26] <AlexPortable> the e1000e you mean?
[09:26] <hateball> AlexPortable: did you try a nightly 16.04 liveboot like I suggested yesterday?
[09:26] <AlexPortable> yes
[09:26] <AlexPortable> same issue
[09:26] <hateball> so weird, since I have the same exact model etc and it works ootb since... forever
[09:26] <AlexPortable> works only on windows
[09:27] <qwerkus> Too me, only 2 possibilites here: 1. Your hardware is broken - odd, because it seems to work in win. 2. Wrong NIC/Module.
[09:29] <qwerkus> Though if it really doesn't work, you could always try Intel support. they should be interested in your issue.
[09:32] <v3nd3tta``> hello, i can't seem to get software raid1 over 2x1tb, uefi and lvm combined, am i just not trying the right way or is the assumption that this doesn't work together right?
[09:32] <AlexPortable> oh it works now
[09:32] <AlexPortable> changed something in the hardware
[09:32] <AlexPortable> thanks :D
[09:34] <v3nd3tta``> this is the partition layout: http://i.imgbox.com/ba42XCHE.png
[09:35] <v3nd3tta``> oh wait, this is an older image
[09:36] <v3nd3tta``> this is the updated partiton layout - am i doing it wrong? http://i.imgbox.com/8IaTkwFd.png
[09:39] <ropo> sometimes I get level(3) search on chromium, is it normal?
[09:50] <rory> ropo: What do you mean?
[09:51] <ropo> rory sometimes when i search stuff(in navbar), sometimes(very rare) i get navigated to something called level3 search engine
[09:51] <rory> ropo: What DNS servers are you using, do you know?
[09:52] <rory> ropo: Could you share an example page you might get redirected to?
[09:52] <ropo> rory sorry i forgot(and cleared hsitory too)
[09:52] <ropo> what's a DNS server though?
[09:53] <ropo> i am connected to my college library wifi could that be the reason?
[09:54] <Cablegunmaster> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[09:54] <Cablegunmaster> how to resolve?
[09:54] <melindo> I'm having a problem with a pam module, pam_mkhomedir.so. Even if it's configured correctly, and I checked a dozen times, the pam.d/common-session file is completely ignored. Any ideea?
[09:56] <rory> ropo: You should see it redirect to a search page when you try to access a single word search that doesn't exist
[09:56] <rakonfire> @ropo  Sorry just saw 4 line of your chat. I get the same thing when the level3 DNS servers can't resolve your search/URL . You could be having 4.2.2.2 as your dns. It is normal.
[09:56] <rory> ropo: The DNS server will try to go to http://keyword and it won't exist, so it will return their search results instead
[09:57] <rory> ropo: You could set your DNS servers to Google's 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[09:57] <ropo> how do i do that?
[09:57] <rory> ropo: What Ubuntu version are you on?
[09:57] <ropo> 15.10
[09:57] <rory> Go to your network settings, there's an option for DNS servers to use
[09:58] <rory> Click the network icon in the top right
[09:59] <ropo> Edit Connections?
[10:01] <Felishia> can someone give me a hand of migrating to x64
[10:02] <popey> Felishia: migrate as in move from 32-bit install to 64-bit install? Basically the answer is "backup everything and reinstall"
[10:02] <Felishia> popey, yes the home folder
[10:02] <Felishia> but what about the programs and the repositories already installed
[10:02] <popey> make a note of them and start fresh
[10:02] <Felishia> I have postgres, node4, and some other stuff
[10:02] <popey> you'll probably need to reinstall them then
[10:03] <popey> what's the goal of moving to 64-bit?
[10:03] <Felishia> isn;t there a command in synaptic or something that saves my added repo
[10:03] <popey> (assuming you're happy with your 32-bit install)
[10:03] <Felishia> popey, gotta develop
[10:03] <popey> ah okay
[10:03] <popey> There's not really a simple way to do this.
[10:03] <Felishia> oh damn
[10:03] <Felishia> there's 32 bits :D
[10:04] <Felishia> XD
[10:04] <Felishia> now who cares
[10:06] <AlexPortable> How can I let UEFI autoboot?
[10:10] <kodi> Hallo
[10:10] <bbb> Hoi
[10:10] <TridenRake> hi. I have an old HDD connected via SATA to USB port (the one from which I am running ubuntu). I have fresh HDD in my laptop SATA bay. How do I clone the old one to new fresh HDD? I am new to linux. Help
[10:15] <TridenRake> anyone?
[10:17] <v3nd3tta``> well you could use "dd" but before you do the command - read the manual
[10:17] <v3nd3tta``> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search.py?q=dd&titles=Title
[10:18] <v3nd3tta``> also, be sure to do it in the right direction
[10:19] <no_idea> any info on qtstalker and ubuntu 15?
[10:27] <hateball> TridenRake: I'd use clonezilla
[10:27] <hateball> TridenRake: It is quite straightforward and simple
[10:29] <TridenRake> hateball, I will try that now.
[10:30] <TridenRake> v3nd3tta``, Thanks, but I'm quite scared to use that. I am new and I mightg screw it up
[10:31] <popey> TridenRake: clonezilla is pretty easy to use, and there's tutorial videos showing it, so you know what to expect
[10:34] <AlexPortable> How can I let UEFI autoboot?
[10:50] <ljosberinn> hi all! just recently i keep getting the error when i ssh into my ubuntu 14.04 machine:
[10:50] <ljosberinn> ssh: /home/mk/.linuxbrew/lib/libcrypto.so.1.0.0: no version information available (required by ssh)
[10:51] <ljosberinn> ah, wait, the path is pointing to my local machine, not the remote onw
[10:51] <ljosberinn> ok, back to the drawing board... thanks for helping :)
[10:51] <Cablegunmaster> I put on my robe and my wizard hat!
[11:18] <lounesdh> hi
[11:19] <lounesdh> hi
[11:19] <no_idea> hi lounesdh
[11:19] <k1l_> hi
[11:19] <lounesdh> where are u from?
[11:20] <no_idea> im from the philippines. where are you from?
[11:20] <k1l_> the internet :)
[11:20] <lounesdh> algeria
[11:20] <no_idea> he left... haha
[11:21] <no_idea> how are you k1l_ ?
[11:22] <k1l_> i am good, thanks. for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic there might be some conversation when this is silent in here due to no support questions
[11:23] <no_idea> i cant install qtstalker in ubuntu mate 15.04. i cant find it in synaptic. in the software center it says there are unresolvable dependencies. any ideas guys?
[11:24] <no_idea> thanks k1l_ :)
[11:24] <_jd> hey guys, don't ask me how, but someone did chmod -R 777 on usr folder. this fix is good http://askubuntu.com/questions/127446/how-to-fix-sudo-after-chmod-r-777-usr-bin?
[11:24] <Ben64> _jd: all of /usr ?
[11:24] <haasn> It seems that in ubuntu 14.04 → 15.10 the `dpkg-reconfigure --all` flag has gone away. What is the preferred replacement?
[11:24] <_jd> Ben64: yes
[11:25] <_jd> I see that symlink have 777, and binaries 755
[11:26] <colegatron> Hi there is any nginx package that includes lua + syslog logging? latest stabel seems to do not come packaged with lua
[11:27] <Ben64> _jd: time to reinstall
[11:27] <jushur> !pastebin
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> haasn  the command works here, 14.04.4, ok
[11:27] <haasn> MonkeyDust: Like I said it got removed in 15.10
[11:27] <haasn> Judging by the man pages at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/man8/dpkg-reconfigure.8.html
[11:28] <_jd> Ben64: thx
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> haasn  you said, from 14.04 to 15.10, guess i misunderstood is as: everything between 14.04 and 15.10
[11:29] <haasn> MonkeyDust: I said 14.04 → 15.10, I meant the transition :)
[11:32] <_jd> Ben64: hey another question, is there a way of reinstalling all installed packages?
[11:35] <exospecies> hi
[11:35] <exospecies> my terminal fails to display utf8 characters
[11:35] <nohitall> So I got a default ubuntu install and my loopback interface has no ip adress assigned, anyone got an idea why that is? causus issues since lot of stuff wants to bind to 127.0.0.1
[11:36] <chotaz`w> What standard ways(without installing 3rd party or aditional packages) does one have to setup dns servers on ubuntu? I'm asking this because I'm having lots of conflits on using my company's internal DNS, sometimes I can't reach our intranet and I'm guessing it's because I threw google's public dns somewhere, I just can't remember where and via network manager, only our internal dns are listed, so I'm assuming it must be set somewhere else. Thanks
[11:36] <chotaz`w> in advance.
[11:37] <exospecies> apparently it's impossible to update LANG
[11:37] <hateball> chotaz`w: what does cat /etc/resolv.conf say?
[11:39] <chotaz`w> hateball, only lists 127.0.0.1 as nameserver, but as our local domains listed as 'search'
[11:40] <hateball> chotaz`w: yeah, that is to be expected as you are likely running dnsmasq by default
[11:41] <chotaz`w> hateball, could there be conflicts between resolv.conf and dnsmasq's configs, our doesn't it work that way?
[11:41] <hateball> chotaz`w: have a look in /etc/resolv.conf.d/, look in head or base if you have manually added some nameservers
[11:42] <chotaz`w> i'll take a look, thanks!
[11:43] <Kartagis> !find zipalign
[11:43] <Kartagis> !find zipalign trusty
[11:43] <chotaz`w> hateball, theres no resolv.conf.d
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  looks like you're out of luck there
[11:44] <hateball> chotaz`w: ugh. I dont have a 15.10 system handy now so I can look up the proper config paths
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> !find zipalign xenial
[11:45] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: yea. have you an idea about my issue error while loading shared libraries: libc++.so: cannot open shared object file?
[11:45] <Kartagis> that is from android sdk zipalign
[11:46] <matt_matt> hi
[11:46] <chotaz`w> hi matt_matt
[11:47] <matt_matt> hows it going?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> matt_matt  this is ubuntu support, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for nice social chat
[11:51] <chotaz`w> hateball, my bad it's /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/ ill take a look there
[11:53] <chotaz`w> hateball, files head and base are clear, only comments inside.
[11:53] <odt> where is the xenial discussion happening?
[11:53] <chotaz`w> odt /j #ubuntu+1
[11:53] <odt> ty
[11:56] <matt_linuxlearne> i cant join #ubuntu-offtpoic i am banned?
[11:56] <Ben64> might need to be registered
[11:57] <hateball> !register | matt_linuxlearne
[11:57] <matt_linuxlearne> kk will take a look
[11:58] <chotaz`w> hateball, i dont see configs overlapping anywhere, I guess the problem is with our domain instead then?
[11:59] <hateball> chotaz`w: what was the original issue?
[11:59] <chotaz`w> i remember adding google's dns so i could listen to some youtube playlists, and ocassionally i can still reach youtube that's why I thought I had preserved the config somewhere by mistake
[12:00] <chotaz`w> the original issue was I not being able to reach some internal websites intermittently, while nobody else is having this issue.
[12:00] <chotaz`w> sometimes i can't access our issue tracker, gitlab, etc.
[12:01] <chotaz`w> I should be bugging my sysadmn for this, be he's nowhere to be found, thanks for the tips btw!
[12:01] <jushur> chotaz`w: sounds more like a badly configured internal dns server. then your machine.
[12:01] <jushur> chotaz`w: those internal dns, have static ips right?
[12:02] <chotaz`w> jushur, yes.
[12:02] <jushur> chotaz`w: just set them in /etc/hosts then
[12:03] <jushur> chotaz`w: is this a laptop you take with you home and connect to those from home also?
[12:04] <chotaz`w> jushur, no VPNs
[12:04] <chotaz`w> jushur, given that I set those in /etc/hosts, if I still have trouble connecting sometimes, could I assume its a dns problem?
[12:04] <haasn> Still running into this issue on Ubuntu 16.04: https://serverfault.com/questions/539911/setting-debconf-selections-for-keyboard-configuration-fails-layout-ends-up-as Is there really no better solution other than hard-copying /etc/console-setup to hack around it?
[12:05] <jushur> chotaz`w: no, that be a connection issue for some reason. more likely due to vpn connection.
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> haasn  #ubuntu+1 for 16.04
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> haasn  16.04 is not ready yet, expect more problems
[12:05] <jushur> jushur: if the problem goes away, when you have ips there. it would be a dns issue.
[12:06] <ppotts> Hello, trying to install trusty32 from mini.iso. The install fails at downloading any package. When I tried to ping from console I get a segfault everytime it tries to do a name resolution. The name server is set to 8.8.8.8
[12:06] <jushur> chotaz`w: read my prev line.
[12:06] <chotaz`w> jushur, i'll try that, thanks, I'm not the most network-savy person , hateball you too.
[12:09] <ppotts> has anyone seen such an error before?
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:14] <manmatica> ubuntu beginners channel is called... ?
[12:14] <hil> ppotts, sounds like your mini.iso has corrupted binaries. try to get a new one
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> manmatica  ask here and wait
[12:15] <ppotts> hil, will try that. Thank you.
[12:15] <manmatica> ok
[12:16] <hateball> !help | manmatica
[12:17] <manmatica> ??? that was the question
[12:17] <k1l_> manmatica: this is the support channel. just ask in here
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> manmatica  what brings you here?
[12:20] <Kartagis> I've got libstdc++.so.6 but zipalign says zipalign: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:20] <Kartagis> any ideas?
[12:21] <manmatica> Right, cool so I just installed 14.04...it asks for the encryption key everytime i boot but before it goes into that it's like the computer goes to sleep...i swipe my hand accross the keyboard, and indoing so it has actually taken the keys as an attempt to put in the key and it wakes up
[12:22] <ppotts> hil, I just checked the md5sum of the iso file I downloaded. It matches what is on the website. Anything else I could try?
[12:23] <manmatica> it's not just a black screen, the screen turns off
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> manmatica  swipe across the keyboard? is that a tablet?
[12:25] <manmatica> no, you know, like on a piano
[12:25] <hil> Kartagis, take a look here: http://itsfoss.com/solve-open-shared-object-file-quick-tip/
[12:25] <manmatica> i suppose there's one mystery key that would do it?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> manmatica  Esc or so
[12:26] <chotaz`w> I think his playmouth goes to sleep and he has to awake his screen before being able to input the password?
[12:26] <chotaz`w> I think you're just not waiting long enough for plymouth to show you the password input screen
[12:27] <manmatica> esc didn't work.... what's 'so'
[12:27] <chotaz`w> Its completely normal the screen blanks for a sec before asking for the boot password
[12:27] <Kartagis> hil: thanks but ldconfig didn't do it :S
[12:28] <manmatica> anyway ..I thought it might need a reinstall but it won't boot from the disc now either
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> manmatica  a hit on the space bar or even move with the mouse wakes up the screen too
[12:32] <manmatica> ok, i'll try that, thanks but is there a way to get around having to enter the key everytime i start up... is that normal? an earlier version didn't do that
[12:32] <xRabbitx> what the fuck is this madness
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> xRabbitx  language
[12:33] <xRabbitx> sorry
[12:33] <xRabbitx> this is my first time using irc and im so baffled
[12:33] <jushur> xRabbitx: why so?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> xRabbitx  this is ubuntu suppot, ask your ubuntu questions here
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> support*
[12:34] <xRabbitx> oh, cool this could come in really handy, is there another page specifically for kubuntu or is it all under the same banner?
[12:34] <chotaz`w> xRabbitx, !kubuntu
[12:35] <chotaz`w> !kubuntu | xRabbitx
[12:36] <xRabbitx> so only unity here? or just if i have KDE specific questions, go there?
[12:36] <chotaz`w> I dont know if theres #kde, but #kubuntu is a good starting point. Also, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> xRabbitx  ask your question and wait
[12:37] <hil> Kartagis, which version you are using?
[12:37] <Kartagis> hil: ubuntu? 14.04.5 x64
[12:37] <akik> there's #kde on freenode
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  the latest is 14.04.4
[12:38] <Kartagis> sorry, yeah .4
[12:38] <hil> Kartagis, are you trying to compile for 32bit?
[12:38] <Kartagis> nope
[12:38] <Kartagis> does that matter in the case of android?
[12:39] <Guest83572> hi im very new to linux and i have an interview tomorrow can someone please help me solve the below question thanks
[12:39] <Guest83572> If you were in the /home/usr/doc directory, write a shell script below where you would be in /home/admin/doc where the admin directory does not exist and delete the usr directory
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> Guest83572  #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[12:40] <Guest83572> ok thank you
[12:40] <hil> Kartagis, you might miss 32bit libs tho'
[12:40] <ouroumov> And btw that question makes no sense.
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> Guest46433
[12:41] <hil> Kartagis, sudo apt-get install -y libc6:i386 libgcc1:i386 libstdc++6:i386 libz1:i386    ...worth a try
[12:42] <Kartagis> hil++
[12:42] <Kartagis> hil++
[12:42] <Kartagis> hil++
[12:42] <Kartagis> yay!
[12:42] <hil>  :)
[12:42] <Kartagis> that worked
[12:42] <hil> \o/
[12:42] <Kartagis> I can't thank you enough
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> !cookie | hil
[12:43] <sasooooss> ciao a tutti!
[12:43] <irvan> hy
[12:43] <sasooooss> !list
[12:46] <farid_> hey
[12:49] <chotaz`w> !ask | farid_ , hey o/
[12:53] <c99> hello
[12:55] <elia> hi i have two question:
[12:55] <lounesdh> hi
[12:56] <lounesdh> can you tell me what is this Xchat exactly?
[12:56] <phil42> i am using the xchat irc client
[12:56] <phil42> it works well
[12:56] <lounesdh> for what?
[12:56] <elia> 1- how can i modify pluma  color scheme
[12:57] <phil42> for irc-ing
[12:57] <phil42> as in now
[12:57] <hil> hehe
[12:58] <ouroumov> elia, pluma > Edit > Preferences > Font & Colors
[12:58] <hil> lounesdh, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC
[13:00] <phil42> lounesdh, is there anything else that you need to know?
[13:00] <therue> can someone recommend  a good and minimalistic pdf+epub reader ?
[13:00] <lounesdh> no thanks
[13:00] <lounesdh> :))))
[13:00] <lounesdh> :)
[13:01] <JohnnyonFlame> Hey, anyone here tried running Ubuntu on cheap chinese baytrail devices? I can't get my panel to display anything. Once DRM kicks in the display goes into a state that looks like it was innited wrong and displays nothing.
[13:01] <JohnnyonFlame> Plugged a HDMI cable and the intel driver seems to be working fine- glxinfo looks sane, glxgear is okay, and I managed to get xrandr/dmesg logs
[13:02] <alex10791> hey guys, I am working with cache timing attacks for may MSc Thesis and I need to allocate huge pages. I have been trying but didn't manage to, can anyone point me to the right direction? I'm using lubuntu
[13:03] <hil> therue, fbreader with pdf plugin
[13:07] <awe_> hi
[13:07] <awe_> yes
[13:08] <awe_> joined
[13:11] <hil> therue, i'm afraid that's just for epub , no pdf support i see
[13:12] <therue> :(
[13:12] <hil> therue, calibre is of course the way to go.. but thats far from minimalistic
[13:13] <therue> ya i used that on windows
[13:13] <lekayu> bonjour
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> 'désolés'
[13:25] <sruli> how is it going?
[13:25] <sruli> oops wrong window
[13:28] <sten_> hi guys!
[13:29] <inerkick> Hi..I'm trying to install haskell in APtana.  Kindly help me to get Haskell  in APtana(Eclipse). I am getting this error http://lpaste.net/153937
[13:30] <sruli> is it possible to encrypt ram? i want to secure against physical access / cold boot attacks
[13:32] <hateball> sruli: probably more likely to get an answer to that in ##linux
[13:33] <inerkick> this is how it shows http://s12.postimg.org/lv6lpnmnx/Screenshot.png when i'm trying to install haskell in aptana
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> what's aptana
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> !info haskell
[13:36] <inerkick> ok, ubottu. HOw to go ahead
[13:36] <inerkick> I actually upgraded aptana
[13:36] <inerkick> Aptana IDE
[13:38] <manager_> Hello. xsane/simple-scan works with my scaner only under sudo. How to work with them under regular user?
[13:40] <inerkick> What should I do ubottu
[13:41] <BluesKaj> !ubottu | inerkick
[13:41] <Melio> he's a bot
[13:41] <Melio> or she
[13:41] <Melio> not sure
[13:41] <BluesKaj> it
[13:41] <cfhowlett> It's
[13:41] <inerkick> oops I thought so :D later was in hurry
[13:41] <Melio> it is derogitory
[13:41] <inerkick> searching solution online
[13:42] <Melio> if you don't find it come back and ask we're helpful sometimes
[13:42] <BluesKaj> it is neutral if you're talking genders
[13:42] <inerkick> i am just trying to learn haskell and want it in Aptana Melio
[13:43] <inerkick> tried to install it but it shows that error or not sure if it installed http://lpaste.net/153937
[13:44] <cfhowlett> inerkick, start it from the terminal
[13:45] <inerkick> i'm learning it from terminal, i am actually following a tutorial Beginning with Haskell which starts with a project. Hence wanted to go with that flow
[13:45] <cfhowlett> start haskell from the terminal
[13:46] <hateball> manager_: is this post helpful? http://superuser.com/questions/298298/scanning-only-works-under-sudo-ubuntu
[13:46] <inerkick> I am currently using haskell in terminal cfhowlett
[13:47] <cfhowlett> so haskell IS installed
[13:48] <inerkick> yeah i already installed haskell cfhowlett and even learning it ,
[13:49] <inerkick> just the author mentions to get this ide which helps to try with the project version. and i'm not so clear yet about the indentation and stuff like that, hence don't want to keep wondering how to in terminal or other ide's and just keep working not distracted from learning
[13:52] <manager_> When i'm trying to use scanimage: open of device epkowa:usb:001:004 failed: Access to resource has been denied
[13:52] <manager_> How to scan without sudo? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo#Permission_Issues won't work
[13:55] <ppotts> Could anyone try installing trusty32 from mini.iso as a virtual machine? I get the same error across platforms with different desktop virtualization software and the iso hash is a match
[13:56] <EriC^^> what error
[13:56] <shahar188> manager_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[13:56] <shahar188> search for scanimage in that page and you'll get the answer
[13:56] <ppotts> EriC^^, packages don't download, and if I login to console and try to ping any domain I get a segfault
[13:57] <ubuntu-mate> hey guys
[13:58] <manager_> shahar188: won't work.
[13:58] <manager_> but fixed by sudo chown root:manager /dev/bus/usb/001/004
[13:58] <manager_> but don't think what it best solution...
[14:09] <kgirthofer> hey all - I set my copy to control c
[14:10] <kgirthofer> on term
[14:10] <kgirthofer> that had a lot of unintended sideeffects.
[14:10] <Kevin`> i'm encounting what's probably a bug in grub-install, should I ask here or in wherever the grub channel is? Boot0004* ubuntulog_ HD(1,0,00000000000000000000000000000000,0x0,0x0)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)
[14:10] <pbx> kgirthofer, do you have a question or is that just a PSA :)
[14:11] <pbx> Kevin`, http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=grub
[14:11] <kgirthofer> yea how do I set it back
[14:12] <kgirthofer> oh never mind
[14:12] <kgirthofer> you just remove the shortcut
[14:12] <kgirthofer> how does elementary get around that?
[14:12] <AlexPortable> anyone can help me add an entry to efi?
[14:12] <kgirthofer> it somehow knows only to use copy if text is highlighted
[14:12] <AlexPortable> I can start Ubuntu if I 'boot from EFI file' and then select the folder \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi, but not from the boot manager
[14:13] <Kevin`> are you perhaps encountering the same bug as me? that would make it easier
[14:13] <Kevin`> pastebin efibootmgr -v
[14:15] <Cablegunmaster> just love how quickly Ubuntu reinstalls again :) /hates reinstalling the rest ;)
[14:16] <Cablegunmaster> :D such a love hate relation ship
[14:16] <colegatron> Cablegunmaster, use saltstack to rebuild ;)
[14:16] <Cablegunmaster> tell me :)?
[14:17] <Cablegunmaster> Sometimes just feels like: https://xkcd.com/1629/
[14:17] <Cablegunmaster>  or https://xkcd.com/1579/
[14:17] <colegatron> hahahaah, true
[14:18] <AlexPortable> Kevin`: me?
[14:18] <Kevin`> AlexPortable: yes
[14:18] <AlexPortable> no idea what bug?
[14:18] <Kevin`> grub-install generating wrong boot manager entries
[14:19] <Cablegunmaster> colegatron, Saltstack seems like overkill
[14:20] <haasn> Can I specify the values for dpkg-configure non-interactively? e.g. say I want to run dpkg-reconfigure from a script
[14:20] <colegatron> Cablegunmaster, yep, for single destops vagrant + bash is enough
[14:20] <colegatron> or a single bash
[14:20] <colegatron> if you don't want VM's
[14:20] <haasn> dpkg-reconfigure*
[14:20] <Cablegunmaster> dont want to ruby it colegatron
[14:21] <AlexPortable> Kevin`: no idea
[14:27] <Rubas> Hello people, someone on my server deleted a whole folder the 24th of February, is it somehow possible to recover it in any way?
[14:29] <EriC^^> !recover | Rubas
[14:31] <Rubas> Thank you Eric^^ :) I'll look into it and see what I can do :)
[14:32] <mrsqueaky21> lubuntu detects my sound card but my laptop does not play any sound
[14:33] <haasn> How do I change the keyboard layout non-interactively?
[14:33] <EriC^^> Rubas: no problem :)
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> mrsqueaky21  in a terminal, type   alsamixer    if you see MM, go there and hit m to unmute
[14:33] <haasn> I can use dpkg-reconfigure interactively, but I need it to be done from a script
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> haasn   setxkbmap -layout xx    <-- your country code
[14:35] <mrsqueaky21> I want a cloak
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> mrsqueaky21  ask in #freenode
[14:35] <EriC^^> mrsqueaky21: i want a batmobile
[14:36] <haasn> MonkeyDust: “Cannot open display "default display"”, if I manually try it with DISPLAY=:0 I get “Cannot open display ":0"”
[14:36] <haasn> (I am logged in via ssh)
[14:36] <haasn> And ideally I want to be doing this from a chroot
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> haasn  in which ubuntu version?
[14:36] <conall> haasn: have you ssh'wd with X forwarding enabled?
[14:37] <conall> ssh'ed*
[14:37] <fooobarrr> ssx -X?
[14:37] <fooobarrr> and you have a server running on your local computer?
[14:37] <haasn> MonkeyDust: Either 14.04 or 16.04
[14:37] <conall> ssh -Y for trusted X forwarding
[14:37] <haasn> (I cannot find a way to set the keyboard layout non-interactively in either ver, pretty much)
[14:37] <Melio> I'm going to get a raspberry pi, basicly because i have an expensive linode
[14:38] <Melio> does ubuntu run on linode?
[14:38] <Melio> i mean R.pi
[14:38] <Melio> i hear the later versions are more powerful and have wifi on version 3
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> Melio  #raspberrypi
[14:38] <Melio> I mean you can add it
[14:38] <Melio> I'm more concerned if ubuntu runs on it
[14:39] <hateball> Melio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[14:39] <AlexPortable> I can start Ubuntu if I 'boot from EFI file' and then select the folder \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi, but not from the boot manager
[14:40] <hateball> Melio: I don't know if anyone has tried the RPi3 yet tho
[14:41] <Melio> hateball,  yeah 2 is ot, but 3 is so new it's not imaged yet
[14:41] <Melio> I'll be happy to ditch my 300$ linode
[14:41] <Melio> I don't really need it
[14:41] <Melio> I justified it by saying, I need a good linux box for servers and experimental deployments
[14:41] <jushur> Melio: the rpi2 and rpi3 can run ubuntu very well. just get a quality sdcard. for it.
[14:41] <Melio> and having a local machine that ages and requires 2-3 year upgrades was dumb financially
[14:42] <Melio> jushur,  I plan to
[14:42] <haasn> MonkeyDust: Do you know where the debconf scripts for keyboard-configuration are located? I'm just gonna reverse engineer this script to figure out how I can fool it into thinking my keyboard is german
[14:42] <Melio> Local builds are all i need, and virtualized stuff isnt that good
[14:42] <Melio> too much ram
[14:45] <mrsqueaky21> I want you to join me
[14:47] <haasn> MonkeyDust: Aaah, I finally found the answer: localectl set-x11-keymap de pc105 nodeadkeys && dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive keyboard-configuration
[14:47] <haasn> This works :)
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> haasn  i was away, glad you found it
[14:48] <haasn> `localectl` is where the keyboard-configuration debconf gets its results from
[14:53] <hpp> eh why is ubuntu 16.04-beta1 chinese by default? changed language but recycle bin and home folde is still in chinese
[14:53] <chotaz`w> hpp, its beta, never expect stable usage
[14:55] <hil> 台北?  .oO( ;) )
[14:56] <pureheart23> which channel has the most visitor
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> hpp  #ubuntu+1
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> pureheart23  this is ubuntu support
[14:57] <pbx> i've got two accounts on this machine (14.04). i use Synapse with both of them. super-esc is the hotkey i've been using, then one account stopped allowing it. i.e. synapse says it's already in use, but i don't see it in the hotkeys in Keyboard settings. how can i track down the conflict? (or if it's a bogus conflict message, the cause)?
[14:57] <pureheart23> MonkeyDust: why do you to be so strict? I'm not in school anymore
[14:59] <pureheart23> gtg
[14:59] <pantato_> quit
[15:05] <Es0teric> anybody here?
[15:05] <EriC^^> Es0teric: sure
[15:05] <teward> Es0teric: asking a real question helps, usually, as we respond better to actual questions.  It's not helpful to ask if anyon eis around.
[15:06] <Es0teric> ok so i have this server and there is a zip file that constantly keeps injecting itself and unpacking itself causing it to crash... how do i find the source of that is causing that?
[15:07] <EriC^^> Es0teric: sounds like something is copying it over and extracting it?
[15:07] <EriC^^> Es0teric: who owns the zipfile?
[15:08] <Es0teric> EriC^^ www-data
[15:08] <EriC^^> Es0teric: ok, so something that has to do with the webserver is doing it
[15:08] <EriC^^> what's running as www-data?
[15:08] <Es0teric> the webserver
[15:09] <EriC^^> just a normal apache webserver?
[15:09] <Es0teric> yeah
[15:09] <EriC^^> where's the file being put?
[15:11] <joy> quit
[15:11] <Es0teric> EriC^^ in the root of the site
[15:11] <EriC^^> Es0teric: what's the name of the file?
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> !details | Es0teric
[15:12] <Es0teric> EriC^^ jtvz.zip
[15:12] <EriC^^> Es0teric: you need to check your websites code
[15:13] <EriC^^> are you using php with it?
[15:13] <Es0teric> EriC^^ yeah
[15:13] <EriC^^> what does the zipfile contain?
[15:13] <EriC^^> does the site do any other zipping stuff?
[15:14] <Hell-Razor> hey fellas... just need a litle help with patching the kernel, anybody good with editing patches?
[15:14] <Hell-Razor> the patch off sourceforge doesnt seem to work =(
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> Hell-Razor  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntu-kernel
[15:14] <Hell-Razor> ah ok
[15:14] <Hell-Razor> probably better in there MonkeyDust
[15:15] <Es0teric> EriC^^ i just decided to gut the whole thing
[15:15] <Es0teric> this is pointless right now
[15:16] <EriC^^> Es0teric: gut it?
[15:16] <Es0teric> EriC^^ yeah
[15:16] <Es0teric> change the directory
[15:16] <Es0teric> i am just moving the files
[15:17] <EriC^^> not following what you mean
[15:17] <Es0teric> EriC^^ what does it mean when there is a user called 1001 ?
[15:18] <EriC^^> it's the user's uid
[15:18] <Es0teric> EriC^^ would that appear when a user has been deleted?
[15:19] <EriC^^> are you saying a literal user called 1001?
[15:19] <EriC^^> the problem is that we're not fortune tellers
[15:19] <Hell-Razor> damn everybodys asleep in the kernel place
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> Es0teric  what are you doing, hoping to achieve and what brings you here?
[15:19] <nacc> Hell-Razor: just an fyi, you don't want to ever edit patches
[15:19] <Es0teric> MonkeyDust EriC^^ is helping me
[15:20] <EriC^^> Es0teric: actually i'm not understanding anything you're saying
[15:20] <EriC^^> and i feel more like i'm an info box than helping you
[15:20] <Es0teric> EriC^^ give me a sec
[15:20] <Es0teric> i have to check something
[15:21] <Hell-Razor> nacc well the kernel directory was incorrect
[15:21] <Hell-Razor> nacc thats all i edited
[15:21] <chotaz`w> He's completely outtee x)
[15:21] <nacc> Hell-Razor: hand-edit patches will tend to make them not apply
[15:21] <nacc> Hell-Razor: you should *hand-apply* the patch and regenerate it
[15:21] <nacc> if anything
[15:21] <Hell-Razor> nacc it wasnt aplying either way lol
[15:21] <Hell-Razor> applying
[15:22] <nacc> Hell-Razor: also what do you mean the "kernel directory"?
[15:22] <Hell-Razor> nacc it was looking for the kernel in /usr/src/linux-4.4/ instead of /usr/src/linux-headers-4.4.0-040400
[15:25] <nacc> Hell-Razor: um ... that's the kernel's headers
[15:25] <nacc> Hell-Razor: not the source
[15:25] <Hell-Razor> nacc ah that could be the isse... where does the kernel sit then
[15:26] <nacc> Hell-Razor: I don't think you should be editing your kernel if this is where you are at :)
[15:26] <nacc> Hell-Razor: but you either need to download the source package for the kernel you care about, or use git
[15:26] <nacc> or grab the tarball from upstream
[15:26] <Hell-Razor> nacc /usr/src/linux is where it symlinks to... I am just not used to ubuntu yet
[15:26] <nacc> in short, "it depends" :)
[15:27] <nacc> if you only have /usr/src/linux-headers, then you don't have the kernel source installed, afaict
[15:27] <Hell-Razor> nope. I understand it now nacc I think... going to take a lot longer than what I was originally thinking
[15:40] <jesperson> Does anyone here know how to get my panels back via the terminal? :D I kind of removed them all
[15:40] <jushur> jesperson: panel?
[15:40] <rilleh> jesperson: dpkg-reconfigure I would guess
[15:40] <jesperson> jushur, Like where my icons are and my shortcus
[15:41] <jesperson> shortcuts*
[15:42] <jesperson> I don't know the name is the package rilleh
[15:42] <jesperson> name of the package*
[15:42] <jushur> just open the aps and then rightklick them and "lock to launcher"
[15:43] <rilleh> dpkg -L |grep ubuntu maybe?
[15:43] <jesperson> that returns an error
[15:44] <rilleh> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[15:44] <rilleh> http://askubuntu.com/questions/620947/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration-on-15-04
[15:45] <Bobbejaantje> Is there any way on packages.ubuntu.com to check reverse-dependencies, as in to get a list of packaes that depend on package X given package X
[15:45] <chotaz`w> jushur, set the "routes" to my issue tracker and gitlab on my hosts file still having issues. I guess i gotta take this to the sysadm.
[15:46] <Schalla> Bobbejaantje: Maybe apt-cache rdepends <package>?
[15:46] <Schalla> I know, thats not on packages.ubuntu.com
[15:46] <glassd> What happened to pushd/popd?
[15:46] <jushur> chotaz`w: maybe you have dns bleed trough issues for your vpn config? so it tries to go over internet?
[15:46] <Bobbejaantje> Schalla, well, I don't have Ubuntu installed right now, hence I'm searching for a way to do it online
[15:47] <leonardo_> ciao
[15:47] <leonardo_> ciao
[15:47] <chotaz`w> !it | leonardo_
[15:47] <leonardo_> hello
[15:47] <chotaz`w> well hey there :D
[15:48] <leonardo_> how old are you
[15:48] <nacc> glassd: what do you mean?
[15:48] <leonardo_> how old are you
[15:49] <chotaz`w> leonardo_, that's irrelevant, just ask
[15:49] <chotaz`w> !ask | leonardo_ If you have any questions regarding ubuntu
[15:49] <Schalla> Bobbejaantje: Nothing I would be aware of.
[15:49] <leonardo_> sex
[15:49] <nacc> Bobbejaantje: I don't think so, as it uses quite a bit of resources to do that serarch :)
[15:49] <glassd> nacc, I've got this script to update some firmware and it requires pushd and popd
[15:49] <glassd> bash is saying the commands are not founf
[15:49] <glassd> found*
[15:50] <nacc> glassd: are you sure you're on bash?
[15:50] <glassd> pretty shure
[15:50] <nacc> glassd: as that sounds like a dash error
[15:50] <Bobbejaantje> nacc, they could've just generated them once and cached them though, but hmm.
[15:51] <Bobbejaantje> I'll go see if there's an ubuntu in a browser somewere or somethng
[15:51] <leonardo_> ciao
[15:51] <glassd> omg... I'm going to kill the person who designed this bs
[15:51] <Schalla> Bobbejaantje: Easiest way: Get an container / vm
[15:52] <chotaz`w> Bobbejaantje, or a linode, i guess
[15:52] <nacc> Bobbejaantje: maybe, but there is a lot of stuff to cache then ... in any case, for most users that need to know about reverse-dependencies, they can run ubuntu and use reverse-depends, apt-cach, etc
[15:54] <glassd> nacc, for some reason this thing extracts another script and then runs it in sh
[15:54] <nacc> glassd: which might be dash? :)
[15:55] <glassd> sounds like that might be the case
[15:55] <cariveri> hi
[15:56] <cariveri> when after a ubuntu upgrade the speaker does nto soudn anymore. what can I do?
[15:56] <chotaz`w> cariveri, open up a terminal, run alsamixer and see if anything is listed as 'MM'
[15:57] <cariveri> chotaz`w: no nothing in MM
[15:59] <cariveri> chotaz`w: testfile with audio is on for testing. but no sound on the speakers. the inline output sounds normal to the headphones.
[15:59] <McBride36> I'm trying to use grep and searching hexchat logs. The channels start with #. i've tried grep "blah" -ri \#channel.log and it returns no such file. Any idea what i should be typing instead?
[16:00] <McBride36> (i am in the correct folder as well)
[16:00] <oscar__> lol
[16:00] <oscar__> adios bitches
[16:00] <Rochvellon>  / is root, try instead ./
[16:06] <akik> McBride36: your grep command works fine for me (i created #channel.log with test as content)
[16:06] <McBride36> well shoot. i must be doing something wrong then. thanks for testing it
[16:07] <Lorne> hey all.  I have an older win machine I'd like to use Ubuntu on...can't seem to get it to install dual-boot...so was thinking to copy the old system (C:) to a bootable USB
[16:07] <Lorne> ...is that crazy?  ...or easy?
[16:07] <akik> McBride36: usually the options come after the command but didn't matter in this case
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> !dualboot | Lorne
[16:09] <McBride36> akik, i got it. needed to go one level in. the recursive wasn't working for some reason
[16:10] <Tyrantelf> Having an issue with 14.04.  During the boot it drops me to an intramfs shell with an error that it can't find my LVM partition, but I've looked and it seems to be more than that.  It's not detecting any of the harddrives, period.  Any help?
[16:11] <akik> McBride36: in that case you were in a directory which didn't have #channel.log :)
[16:12] <McBride36> akik, yup, #channel.log was present in each folder in that directory. Might have just been my inexperience working against me
[16:12] <akik> McBride36: if you want to grep recursively from the current directory "grep -ri something ."
[16:14] <rem505> I tried to save a file and a list of about 6 things came up.  So I clicked the one I wanted, then it said 'can't open file to write' how do I save the file?
[16:14] <jgcampbell300> if i wanted to modify txt files from cli in linux would i be wantint grep or sed ?
[16:14] <rem505> it is an existing file
[16:15] <EriC^^> jgcampbell300: sed
[16:15] <jgcampbell300> EriC^^: do you have link to good list of examples ?
[16:17] <EriC^^> not really
[16:17] <jgcampbell300> EriC^^: ok ty
[16:17] <EriC^^> np
[16:18] <ioria> jgcampbell300, http://www.theunixschool.com/2014/08/sed-examples-remove-delete-chars-from-line-file.html
[16:18] <jgcampbell300> ioria: ty
[16:18] <ioria> jgcampbell300,  you're welcome
[16:20] <day2ubuntu> my headphones arent working lub15.1
[16:21] <day2ubuntu> can I edit the alsa file?
[16:22] <dretnx> Is there anything for ubuntu like bottom docker of yosemite osx, which has blurred panel behind icons?
[16:22] <dretnx> I know about cairo docker, which emulates previous docker of osx
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> dretnx  15.10 has 'plank'
[16:24] <nicomachus> so I'm still getting an error from the Chrome repo. any ideas on a fix for this, besides uninstalling chrome?
[16:25] <trunk_monkey> google-chrome-stable?
[16:25] <trunk_monkey> Installed from the .deb?
[16:25] <nicomachus> yes. one sec, I'll re-paste the rror
[16:25] <nicomachus> error
[16:26] <nicomachus> https://paste.ubuntu.com/15274394/
[16:28] <nicomachus> apparently google killed their 32 bit packages, but didn't adjust the source listing.
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> nicomachus  open the file, it only contains amd64 md5sums
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> nicomachus  chances are, that google chrome no longer supports 32bit
[16:30] <nicomachus> MonkeyDust: I'm using 64bit Chrome though
[16:32] <kush8singh> #sympy
[16:33] <_owl> Yo, is this channel 'bout Ubuntu?
[16:33] <nicomachus> _owl: that might be a good guess
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> _owl  type /topic
[16:33] <_owl> Cause i'm having a lot of trouble with it :D
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> _owl  let's hear it, in one line
[16:34] <_owl> EVERYTHING
[16:34] <_owl> hahaha no joke
[16:34] <_owl> I am new to Ubuntu and dont really no what to do.
[16:34] <nicomachus> well, here's a good start:
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> !manual | _owl start here
[16:35] <linuxlove> how can i install cpanel on ubuntu 15.10?
[16:36] <_owl> MonkeyDust thanks, but how exactly do i get the !manual ?
[16:37] <nacc> _owl: it's the link in what ubottu said
[16:37] <_owl> ah great thanks.
[16:38] <jgcampbell300> can sed find all the dollar ammounts in a page ?
[16:39] <jgcampbell300> sed -i -e 's/[0-9].[0-9]{2}/
[16:41] <ary> Hi. I have a VGA R9 380 on my desktop. I am using the driver downloaded from ATI. The problem is with the OS windows effects. When minimize and maximize windows with to much text, some noise glitch ocour onthe screen. Another thing is when I am working on inkscape or gimp. I did not notice improvements when i am working. The time to render an effect is the same without the new VGA.
[16:41] <jgcampbell300> sed -i -e 's/[0-9].[0-9]{2}/$\d1.\d2/' that i think is what im trying to do
[16:43] <jgcampbell300> its not working so i am thining the \d1 is is wrong format
[16:47] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: . (period) doesn't mean period in regex
[16:47] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: oh ya ... isnt that wildcard for anything ?
[16:48] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: "any single character" not sure if punctuation is considered a character
[16:48] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: actually, regex101 says that should work
[16:49] <jgcampbell300> tryed sed -i 's/([0-9])(.)([0-9]{2})/($\1)(.)(\2/)' 2pagetest .. i have something wrong there to
[16:49] <tgm4883> although would only work for dollar amounts up to 9
[16:49] <Art257> wich software does the ubuntu community recommend me as an alternative for total commander?
[16:49] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: hmm ... how would i make it go up as high as needed
[16:50] <dejavou42> after upgrade of chrome, I'm getting SSL connection error (Err_SSL_Protocol_Error) when trying to connect to google sites Other https sites work from chrome, and google sites work from firefox. So I know it isn't a library problem. Any thoughts on what I should do?
[16:51] <nicomachus> found this, regarding the Google error: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/T1m-U8QI7bM;context-place=topicsearchin/chrome/Linux$20repo%7Csort:date
[16:51] <chotaz`w>  Art257 what features are you looking to get similar to total commander, the command like is the best file explorer out there :)
[16:51] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: [0-9]+.[0-9]{2}
[16:51] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: note the +
[16:51] <chotaz`w> s/like/line
[16:51] <Art257> i have a couple of mp3's scattern in many directorys, and want to put them all in one
[16:51] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: ahh
[16:52] <nicomachus> Art257: from the terminal, you can use 'find' with .mp3 to find them all.
[16:52] <chotaz`w> ^
[16:52] <nicomachus> you could probably also do something like 'mv *.mp3 /Destination/Directory/for/all/.mp3'
[16:53] <tgm4883> nicomachus: that would only find it in the current directory. using xargs with the find command might work
[16:53] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: so sed -i -e 's/([0-9]+.[0-9]{2})/
[16:53] <jgcampbell300>  should find all the numbers formated as ####.##
[16:53] <Art257> thx i try it
[16:53] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: yea
[16:53] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: would you have thousands with comma separaters?
[16:54] <chotaz`w> Art257, something like 'find ~/ -type f -name "*.mp3" | xargs cp -t ~/Music'
[16:54] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: oh .. ya ... 100s no comma then 1000s up would add a comma
[16:54] <dejavou42> nicomachus: Regarding the google error, that is probably due to double entries of the repo in sources.list. I don't know who you were originally helping
[16:54] <chotaz`w> Art257, then all the mp3s found in your home folder will end up in $HOME/Music
[16:54] <nicomachus> dejavou42: I'm exploring it for myself. It's a widespread issue, apparently.
[16:54] <tgm4883> chotaz`w: That might cause an issue since ~/Music is inside ~/
[16:55] <dejavou42> nichomachus: ok. Check your /etc/apt/sources.list I'll guarantee that there are two entries for the google repo
[16:56] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: i think this would work but im betting the $ is going to be seen wrong )
[16:56] <nicomachus> dejavou42: nope. just one.
[16:56] <nicomachus> and it's in sources.list.d/
[16:57] <nicomachus> google-chrome.list , google-chrome.list.distUpgrade , and google-chrome.list.save
[16:57] <nicomachus> pretty standard stuff.
[16:58] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: [0-9]?\*,?[0-9]+\.[0-9]{2}
[16:58] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: I mean [0-9]*,?[0-9]+\.[0-9]{2}
[16:58] <tgm4883> dumb laptop keyboard
[16:58] <dejavou42> nichomachus: what is the actual error you are getting
[16:58] <nicomachus> dejavou42: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15274394/
[16:58] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: how high of a number do you want to look for?
[16:59] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: the highest number should not be over 100,000.00
[16:59] <jgcampbell300> hmm i need to look up the ?
[16:59] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: ok, that should work then
[17:00] <dejavou42> nicomachus: google chrome's linux dev team decided to stop supporting 32 bit systems as of this month.
[17:00] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: so am i looking for sed or regex when working with what you just wrote ?
[17:00] <dejavou42> 32 bit linux systems that is
[17:00] <nicomachus> dejavou42: yes, I know. but I'm on 64bit, using 64bit Chrome.
[17:01] <nicomachus> dejavou42: do you have Chrome installed/
[17:01] <dejavou42> nicomachus: yes
[17:01] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: regex
[17:01] <dejavou42> and I'm having a different problem with it
[17:01] <nicomachus> dejavou42: and do you get that error if you run apt-get update?
[17:01] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: https://regex101.com/
[17:02] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: tyvm
[17:02] <dejavou42> nicomachus: I had a similar error yesterday that was caused by dual entries for http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release in /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:03] <nicomachus> dejavou42: yea, it's not listed in my sources.list here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15274677/
[17:03] <dejavou42> nicomachus: today, I'm not getting any errors from apt-get update
[17:04] <alkisg> nicomachus, what's the output of this? grep -r chrome /etc/apt/sources.list*
[17:05] <nicomachus> alkisg: all normal: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15274693/
[17:05] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: wow ... that is a great tool
[17:06] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: so if i want to use something like . $ or other that regex is going to see as special ... isnt there a way to say that these between () are normal text like /n(text) ?
[17:07] <Lorne> the bot didn't help earlier... I'm currently running Ubuntu off a USB stick...wondering if I can clone my C: (win startup disk) to another external USB drive that I can later boot from...
[17:08] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: you just escape the character with \
[17:08] <nicomachus> Lorne: you can, with dd
[17:08] <Lorne> ...I *think* Im finished with the win stuff...but to be sure - want this backup!
[17:08] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: I did that in the one I posted, so it works as a period now
[17:09] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: ahh ok so sed -i -e 's/([0-9]*,?[0-9]+\.[0-9]{2})/\&(\1)/' test should put a $ before any that matches
[17:10] <nicomachus> Lorne: this should help. Please don't PM, ask in the channel so others can verify that you're getting good advice, and offer additional advice: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/19141/clone-a-hard-drive-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[17:10] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: no? you don't have a $ in there
[17:10] <Lorne> thanks nicomaus
[17:10] <tgm4883> jgcampbell300: you can always test without -i with sed
[17:11] <jgcampbell300> tgm4883: ahh nother typo ... it came back invalid reference /1
[17:18] <cariveri> oh god. installing a prop. nvidia driver crashed it all. dotn even have access to a console. can I reset to xorg driver from live ubuntu?
[17:18] <Lorne> nicomachus - ok - its going...crossing my fingers... thx again...
[17:19] <Art257> i tryed this -> find /media/artur/TOSHIBA\ EXT/Backup/F/ -type f -name "*.mp3" and i found all my mp3's. and how to copy them into the final dastination?
[17:19] <tgm4883> cariveri: you could boot in recovery mode
[17:19] <tgm4883> !recovery
[17:19] <Art257> i mean move sry
[17:20] <dejavou42> I'm getting err_ssl_protocol_err in chrome only on google sites (so far). These sites work in firefox, so I think I can rule out a library issue. Any thoughts?
[17:20] <trunk_monkey> Art257: find /path/to/search/ -type f -name "regular-expression-to-find-files" | xargs cp -t /target/path/
[17:21] <akik> trunk_monkey: thanks for cp -t. learn something new every day
[17:21] <trunk_monkey> That's why I hang out in here; always learning, it's a blast
[17:22] <akik> trunk_monkey: xargs also has -I {} which makes it so you can put the match at {}
[17:23] <Art257> @tunk_monkey i tryed but i get this
[17:23] <cariveri> tgm4883: ok I got to the console. is there a reset to xorg driver ?
[17:23] <Art257> xargs: unmatched single quote; by default quotes are special to xargs unless you use the -0 option
[17:23] <Art257> mv: invalid option -- 'C'
[17:23] <Art257> Try 'mv --help' for more information.
[17:23] <sjohnson> is there a any bot information about DROWN and Ubuntu, if it's anything to be worried about?
[17:23] <sjohnson> i don't see it mentioned in the /topic.
[17:23] <nicomachus> !paste | Art257
[17:23] <nicomachus> !drown | sjohnson
[17:23] <tgm4883> cariveri: it's been awhile since I've messed with that. Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[17:23] <sjohnson> nicomachus++
[17:23] <nicomachus> :D
[17:24] <jgcampbell300> so in regex how do i refer to a capturing group ?
[17:24] <cariveri> tgm4883: yes there ius
[17:25] <sjohnson> nicomachus: one more question.  on the link that bot gave, what does "DNE" stand for in the version list?
[17:26] <nicomachus> sjohnson: I'm not entirely sure... my guess would be "Does Not Effect"
[17:27] <sjohnson> might be "Does Not Exist."
[17:27] <sjohnson> a legend would be helpful but, oh well.
[17:27] <tgm4883> cariveri: I believe you can just rename that file (to xorg.conf.BAK or similiar) and then reboot
[17:27] <trunk_monkey> one sec Art257
[17:28] <cariveri> tgm4883: let me try.
[17:28] <nicomachus> sjohnson: asking some folks, one sec
[17:28] <trunk_monkey> find /media/artur/TOSHIBA\ EXT/Backup/F/ -type f -name "*.mp3" | xargs cp -t ~/path/to/folder
[17:28] <sjohnson> nicomachus: sweet, right on.
[17:28]  * sjohnson waits patiently
[17:28] <trunk_monkey> Art257: try that one
[17:29] <ubuntu704> Hi my backup program ran last night. It's supposed to save the backup to a secondary hard drive, but it ran out of space so it did not finish running. Now my primary hard drive is out of space. I think it's stored in some cache file but I can't seem to find it. I checked .cache and temp but nothing was there. Does anyone know where my hard drive space went?
[17:29] <nicomachus> sjohnson: yes, it means "Does Not Exist"
[17:30] <sjohnson> nicomachus: cool.  thanks again.  you have been very helpful!
[17:30] <nicomachus> o7
[17:30] <sjohnson> (we need more people like you on freenode)
[17:31] <nicomachus> this channel is full of 'em ;)
[17:31] <ioria> google chrome 32bit seems dead .... anyone knows ?
[17:31] <nicomachus> ioria: been struggling with it all morning
[17:31] <trunk_monkey> lol
[17:31] <ioria> nicomachus, ohh
[17:31] <nicomachus> Google killed all 32bit repos, but they messed up the 64bit repo in the process
[17:32] <nicomachus> I tried asking in #chrome but they're slow to answer, and there's only one post on the Chrome forums, with no answers yet. I bumped it.
[17:32] <trunk_monkey> ubuntu704: try du --max-depth=1 /home/ | sort -n -r
[17:32] <ioria> nicomachus, have you tried to add  [arch=amd64]  in sources ?
[17:32] <Art257> it dont works if i use the "~"
[17:32] <nicomachus> ioria: no... but I will
[17:32] <Art257> he dont find the destination with tabulator
[17:32] <nicomachus> mine is in sources.list.d/ though
[17:32] <trunk_monkey> Art257: the ~ just mean /home/youruser/
[17:32] <cariveri> tgm4883: no didnt work :(
[17:32] <trunk_monkey> if you're using a direct path, just omit that
[17:33] <trunk_monkey> example: /home/arthur/music
[17:33] <Art257> nope
[17:33] <ioria> nicomachus, yes, like      deb [arch=amd64]  http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
[17:33] <Art257> xargs unmatchesd single ....
[17:34] <trunk_monkey> You syntax must be wrong then Art257 can you paste the command you're running please
[17:34] <trunk_monkey> ubuntu704: also see here, that process might just be hanging on to the backup http://serverfault.com/questions/315181/df-says-disk-is-full-but-it-is-not
[17:34] <Art257> find /media/artur/TOSHIBA\ EXT/Backup/F/ -type f -name "*.mp3" | xargs cp -t /home/artur/Music/
[17:34] <trunk_monkey> ubuntu704: you can check w/ sudo lsof +L1
[17:35] <Art257> sec
[17:35] <rory> What is this weird character at the end of the lines? http://i.imgur.com/VgzEJTx.png
[17:35] <Art257> this find /media/artur/TOSHIBA\ EXT/Backup/F/ -type f -name "*.mp3" | xargs cp -t /media/artur/Musik/
[17:35] <Art257> without this
[17:35] <nicomachus> ioria: that did the trick. I'll spread the fix a bit to people that were asking
[17:35] <k1l_> rory: a windows linebreak?
[17:35] <terry_> new user and need help
[17:35] <ioria> nicomachus, ok
[17:36] <k1l_> terry_: just describe the issue and what system is in use. then people can try to help
[17:36] <cariveri> tgm4883: filesystem is read only. xorg.conf cant be moved.
[17:36] <tgm4883> cariveri: you've got to remount it as rw
[17:36] <tgm4883> cariveri: http://askubuntu.com/questions/175739/how-do-i-remount-a-filesystem-as-read-write
[17:37] <terry_> install system but it quickly freezes - how to aproach problem
[17:38] <trunk_monkey> Art257: your backslash should be a forward slash at the end of TOSHIBA i believe
[17:39] <ubuntu704> Hi my backup program ran last night. It's supposed to save the backup to a secondary hard drive, but it ran out of space so it did not finish running. Now my primary hard drive is out of space. I think it's stored in some cache file but I can't seem to find it. I checked .cache and temp but nothing was there. Does anyone know where my hard drive space went?
[17:39] <TomyWork> something is setting my umask to 002 and i dont know what. I went through /etc/{bash,profile}*, /etc/login.defs, ~/.*
[17:39] <Art257> it autocompleted
[17:39] <TomyWork> each recursively
[17:39] <TomyWork> i'm on kubuntu 14.04
[17:39] <trunk_monkey> ubuntu704: did you see my previous comments
[17:39] <Art257> the first command works fine
[17:40] <Art257> cp fails
[17:40] <terry_> I need help to get help
[17:40] <tgm4883> Art257: does it fail with an error?
[17:40] <phenomenon> I have installed ubuntu 15.10 and the support is like 9 month I believe. Will it be able to upgrade it to next LTS?
[17:40] <tgm4883> phenomenon: yes
[17:40] <Art257> y
[17:40] <k1l_> phenomenon: yes
[17:40] <phenomenon> Sweet, thanks tgm4883 and k1l_ =)
[17:41] <Art257> unmatched single quote
[17:41] <tgm4883> phenomenon: yw
[17:41] <k1l_> phenomenon: when 16.04 is released the GUI update-manager will ask if you want to upgrade.
[17:41] <cariveri> tgm4883: but would I make a mount point there? when it doesnt let me make a dir.
[17:41] <phenomenon> k1l_, wonderful =)
[17:41] <terry_> not it freezes when I do anything - sometime while coming up
[17:41] <phenomenon> im starting to like ubuntu more and more =)
[17:41] <tgm4883> cariveri: you shouldn't need to make a mountpoint. You are remounting it to the same location
[17:41] <mekhami> can someone explain to me why clipboards make no sense in ubuntu
[17:41] <trunk_monkey> Art257: must have a ' in one of your files
[17:41] <tgm4883> mekhami: what do you mean?
[17:42] <mekhami> tgm4883: i use vim and i have to jump through hoops to be able to copy paste to/from anywhere
[17:42] <mekhami> tgm4883: also just the difference between middle click paste and ctrl v paste and all that stuff
[17:42] <mekhami> why isn't there just one clipboard
[17:42] <mekhami> where things go no matter how you copy no matter how you paste
[17:42] <terry_> do not know where to begin
[17:43] <trunk_monkey> OK Art257 add -printf'"%p"\n' to your find command
[17:43] <tgm4883> mekhami: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClipboardPersistence
[17:43] <trunk_monkey> find /media/artur/TOSHIBA\ EXT/Backup/F/ -type f -name "*.mp3" -printf'"%p"\n' | xargs cp -t ~/path/to/folder
[17:43] <Art257> trunk_monkey i answered
[17:43] <tgm4883> mekhami: so blame X11, but then just install an application to fix it
[17:45] <terry_> out of my domain - need to know where to start
[17:46] <cariveri> tgm4883: ok. done. xorg.conf is now empty. but reboot leads to same problem still.
[17:46] <tgm4883> cariveri: empty or gone. There is a difference
[17:46] <terry_> yes rebooted for hours
[17:46] <tgm4883> cariveri: if the file doesn't exist, then ubuntu should boot with default graphics drivers
[17:48] <cariveri> tgm4883: but it didnt. it somehow goes around it.
[17:48] <tgm4883> hmm
[17:48] <tgm4883> cariveri: what caused this?
[17:49] <TomyWork> found my answer: There's "USERGROUPS_ENAB yes" in login.defs, which modifies the umask
[17:49] <cariveri> tgm4883: I dont know. but I found this to reinstall xorg : http://askubuntu.com/questions/175739/how-do-i-remount-a-filesystem-as-read-write
[17:49] <TomyWork> so that is new in 14.04 vs. the upgraded 13.04 i had before
[17:49] <cariveri> tgm4883: I dont know. but I found this to reinstall xorg : http://superuser.com/questions/909268/cant-reconfigure-xorg
[17:50] <tgm4883> cariveri: I'd attempt reconfiguring first. That's not written with ubuntu in mind
[17:50] <doMynation> I tried to update my php7.0 install to the latest version (7.0.4), so I did `sudo apt-get install php7.0`, it said `1 newly installed package`, but when I do `php -v` i still get 7.0.3. Doing `dpkg -s php7.0` says php7.0.4 is installed though. Does that ring a bell to anyone ? I did restart the php service to make sure.
[17:50] <tgm4883> cariveri: granted, I don't have the time currently to go in depth troubleshooting this with you right now
[17:51] <cariveri> tgm4883: ok. then Ill go with that.
[17:51] <riu> i need help wiht the siystem ubuntu mate the problim is idon't have sound
[17:52] <dejavou42> after a little more investigation with my problem here is exact error that chrome is throwing: ERROR:nss_util.cc(845)] After loading Root Certs, loaded==false: NSS error code: -8018
[17:53] <ppotts_> Finally figured out the reason for trusry32 mini.iso failing to install. It is a bug and the work around is to use the isos mentioned in comment #10 on this page. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/1546459
[17:57] <Art257> cheers open source scene -> tunk_monkey *****
[17:58] <trunk_monkey> cheers mate!
[18:00] <JNSamuel> lol wtf did they do to ubuntu, what a mess.
[18:01] <cariveri> tgm4883: thank you so far. that did it. at least I can retry the other driver options now and see if I have to reset it all again.
[18:02] <apatters> JNSamuel why is it a mess?
[18:03] <JNSamuel> the latest non LTS version looks like someone had a pink fetish
[18:03] <k1l_> JNSamuel: anything for the technical support in here? if not please put that chatter to the offtopic channels. and the rantings to your own blog.
[18:04] <JNSamuel> yeah, rude people as always.
[18:05] <k1l_> ragequit of a known troll, as always.
[18:05] <mistawright> hi guys I have some servers and wanted to know the best/easiest way copy users from box to box?
[18:06] <nacc> mistawright: scp / rsync?
[18:07] <hasan> hi
[18:07] <apatters> Is this a tech support only channel? Are there other channels for discussing Ubuntu?
[18:07] <Tyrantelf> apatters: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:09] <Guest12530> wait there is a Turkish server?
[18:10] <Pici> !tr | Guest12530
[18:10] <dax> !seen bazhang
[18:10] <dax> :(
[18:12] <jbwiv> anyone here successfully using 15.10 on a iMac late 2013?
[18:13] <Guest12530> Thanks
[18:26] <fabio_> Olá, teria algum canal onde eu possa tirar duvidas sobre ferramentas pentest do kali ou backbox?
[18:26] <bazhang> !kali | fabio_
[18:27] <bazhang>    #kali-linux   fabio_
[18:27] <fabio_> obrigado
[18:33] <mistawright> nacc, is there nothing more elegant than copying over files and making sure you dont copy system users etc? you would think something would have been thought up at this point
[18:33] <day2ubuntu> how do i get permission to edit a cfg file?
[18:33] <nacc> mistawright: sorry, not sure what you mean? "copy system users"?
[18:34] <nacc> mistawright: are you asking about backing up filesystems?
[18:34] <DDR> Can anyone recommend a practical guide to setting up the environment around SSH keys? I'd like to have it so my key does have a password, but I don't have to enter the password every time I open up my console again.
[18:36] <DDR> Right now, I have my .bashrc file set to run ssh-add with my passwordless key, and hoooly smokes is it nice to use with .ssh/config now.
[18:38] <rdw200169> DDR: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ssh-passwordless-login-with-keychain-for-scripts/
[18:39] <DDR> oo, that looks excellent!
[18:39] <DDR> Thank you.
[18:49] <cariveri> hey. back to the old problem. I install a new audio driver manually but still no speaker soudn and no output on the alsamixers MM. how to troubleshoot this?
[18:51] <Lorne> hey quick q.. I'm using dd to clone a drive... used the command sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc ....and I THINK I missed putting the '1' 's in...
[18:51] <Lorne> its working (?)...but did I mess up?  Worry or not?
[18:52] <genii> Lorne: If sdc is smaller, you will have a problem
[18:52] <nacc> Lorne: you told dd to clone the disks fully
[18:52] <nacc> Lorne: if you had a numeric suffix, you'd be telling it to clone the specified partitions
[18:52] <nacc> Lorne: so it all depends
[18:53] <Lorne> ...sdc is bigger...wanted EVERYTHING copied over (basically its a WIN boot disk...and I want to simply move it to external...incase I ever need it again)
[18:54] <genii> Lorne: Should be fine then. Although after both will have same UUID, so you'll have to change that
[18:54] <Lorne> ...so from what you said...I'm OK?   (its been running 30 mins...already ...still going...)
[18:55] <genii> Lorne: dd takes a while. Now it's just a waiting game until you get command prompt back. Maybe go grab a coffee, etc :)
[18:56] <Lorne> genii : UUID? ...I'll never use them together...I will simply test it can boot from the external drive...then I'm full installing Ubuntu onto this old laptop
[18:56] <nacc> Lorne: yeah, i mean it will depend on the size of the disks, and your controller's speed, etc. But can take a while for sure
[18:57] <Lorne> ok cool.  thx for the confidence :)
[19:00] <genii> Lorne: The problem comes if you have both attached during boot, it will want to use the UUID of the first one matching, which might not be the one you want. Also the point of UUIDS is to be unique so can be other unexpected results
[19:04] <sEiNZu> Good evening
[19:07] <sEiNZu> Does anyone have a time right now and could help me with a problem?
[19:08] <tinyalpha> hello ubuntu
[19:08] <yayel59_> sEiNZu : explain your problem
[19:11] <phil42> wossa motta u?
[19:13] <sEiNZu> I installed 15.04 desktop 64bit on a usb stick 32gb. Im using it for an old thin client(Fujitsu Siemens Futro s550). Im using a tv (Grundig 42 VLE 9474) as monitor. My problem is that after the bootscreen the login screen pops up very shortly and then the tv doesnt get a signal anymore
[19:14] <sEiNZu> When i press strg+alt+f1 i do get into the terminal tho.
[19:15] <yayel59_> sEiNZu : I suppose you use an hdmi output
[19:15] <akik> fyi strg = ctrl
[19:15] <sEiNZu> Yes
[19:15] <pilne> isn't 15.04 EOL?
[19:16] <baizon> yes it is EOL
[19:16] <nacc> pilne: yes, as of 2/4/2016
[19:16] <nacc> sEiNZu: pilne: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[19:17] <nacc> sEiNZu: I would try with 15.10, at this point
[19:17] <pilne> i get nervous with EOL stuff, which is why i'm praying i can get the gf onto a linux before win7 goes eol, cuz she hates 8/10
[19:17] <nacc> sEiNZu: as 15.04 is out of support
[19:17] <yayel59_> sEiNZu : maybe the solution is to put a monitor on the vga out put and activate the hdmi
[19:19] <yayel59_> I wonder why the support is now so short for non LTS
[19:19] <nacc> yayel59_: it's always been 9 months, i think?
[19:19] <nacc> or so
[19:20] <sEiNZu> yayel59_ what exactly do you mean?
[19:20] <samantha> Quit
[19:20] <samantha> quit
[19:20] <samantha> wtf
[19:20] <yayel59_> for 12.10 and before it was 18 months
[19:20] <pilne> try /quit
[19:20] <samantha> thx
[19:21] <k1l_> yayel59_: it was doubled work for the longer non-LTS releases. so they shortened it to 9 months. if you want long support stay with lts
[19:21] <dax> yayel59_: so that there are fewer concurrent supported versions, which decreases workload for the security team etc.
[19:21] <dax> yayel59_: the excuse being that people who don't upgrade pretty much straight away should be on LTS
[19:23] <Rilen> Hi
[19:23] <gr33nbits> heias
[19:23] <yayel59_> yes but just now, the last LTS is a bit old, the next is in beta, the last non-LTS will be EOF before the end of the year...
[19:24] <yayel59_> I had to make install Ubuntu to 40 students and the choice was difficult
[19:25] <yayel59_> finaly we choose 14.04 but some device was difficult to make work (wifi..)
[19:26] <k1l_> yayel59_: there is the hwe for new kernels and xorg for better hardware support on the lts path
[19:26] <k1l_> !hwe | yayel59_
[19:26] <nacc> yayel59_: even with the hwe kernels and such?
[19:26] <k1l_> and, the broadcom bcm43xx crap is a pain no matter what release you use :/
[19:28] <nacc> sadly, yeah
[19:28] <yann-kaelig> Hi. If I donload the actual 14.04LTS I will be able to update todirectly update to the next LTS 16.xx ?
[19:28] <k1l_> yann-kaelig: yes.
[19:28] <yann-kaelig> k1l_: ok nice thx :)
[19:29] <k1l_> yann-kaelig: the official upgrade will be opened when 16.04.1 is released (might be in july)
[19:29] <yann-kaelig> k1l_: ok thx. Was not sure becaure of the 15.xx version between this two LTS
[19:29] <yann-kaelig> r/s
[19:34] <brainard52> Would I ask for help in this channel or is there a different channel for that?
[19:34] <Pici> brainard52: this is the place.
[19:41] <brainard52> Cool. I'm sure you've heard this one before based on the gratuitous amount of askubuntu results I've found on it. Skype is refusing to install on 64 bit Ubuntu 14.04.  At the end of the day, after enabling i386, I'm still unable to install it.  " skype : Depends: skype-bin" and when I try to install skype-bin, it gives me another massive list.
[19:42] <ed_1> hi, is there any companies that can give remote support for ubuntu/linux? search showed up nothing except the tools to do the job.
[19:43] <nacc> brainard52: are you installing from partner or from skype's site?
[19:44] <brainard52> I've tried from both to the same end
[19:45] <nacc> brainard52: so you followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype ?
[19:45] <brainard52> Yes
[19:46] <nacc> brainard52: can you pastebin the output of `apt-get install skype`?
[19:48] <ed_1> hi, is there any companies that can give remote support for ubuntu/linux? search showed up nothing except the tools to do the job.
[19:48] <brainard52> http://pastebin.com/raw/XdCD61iW
[19:49] <nacc> brainard52: and that was after an `apt-get update`?
[19:49] <brainard52> Yes
[19:49] <nacc> brainard52: if you did both methods of installation, did you clear out whateverw as done before?
[19:49] <nacc> brainard52: and can you pastebin your current /etc/apt/sources.list and any contents of files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[19:50] <brainard52> From the results I've found while searching, this occurs even on a clean installation.
[19:50] <brainard52> Independent on the method
[19:50] <tgm4883> ed_1: what kind of help are you looking for?
[19:50] <tgm4883> brainard52: what version of ubuntu is this?
[19:50] <brainard52> 14.04
[19:51] <nacc> brainard52: http://askubuntu.com/questions/504689/cant-install-skype-4-3-on-ubuntu-14-04-64-bit implies old install attempts break it
[19:53] <pilne> has steam been "fixed" on 15.10 or should i not waste my keystrokes?
[19:53] <baizon> pilne: whats the problem? my steam is working perfect
[19:53] <free29> Hello there
[19:53] <pilne> hmmm, then i'll give it a go
[19:54] <pilne> last time i tried about a month ago, the only way to get it working was some sneaky shit from the terminal
[19:54] <baizon> pilne: well then you did something wrong
[19:55] <pilne> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install steam, yes to all the crap, launch steam, let it update, log out, log in, try to launch and nada
[19:56] <killerstorm> Hi. I use a Google-made Ubuntu 14.04 image on Google Cloud. Recently I found that it installed 20 different kernel versions. Somehow it has trusty (3.13), utopic (3.16) and vivid (3.19) kernels at that same time. Can anybody explain what is going on?
[19:56] <popey> killerstorm: ask google :)
[19:56] <cetex> I have a bunch of scripts that heavily modifies a minimal (debootstrap minbase) installation of ubuntu, currently i'm at a point where i'm thinking of wiping /etc/init* and writing everything i need from scratch (not much we need, vs the crazy amount of stuff that is installed by default and according to my experience introduce more issues than resolve stuff), any ideas how to do this a "proper way" or is the only "proper way" to get all source deb's, write pa
[19:56] <EriC^^> killerstorm: maybe hwe kernels?
[19:56] <tgm4883> killerstorm: my guess would be HWE, but yea, you'd have to ask them
[19:56] <baizon> pilne: this was my only problem SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[19:56] <pilne> hmmm, that sounds familiar baizon
[19:56] <baizon> pilne: but that was a steam problem, got fixed using 1 command
[19:57] <brainard52> I'm just going to pick up on this later.
[19:58] <baizon> pilne: just try to install and report problems
[19:58] <tgm4883> pilne: also it's worth mentioning that we can't fix issues with closed source software, so you are complaining to the wrong people
[19:58] <Techspectre> I just upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10 and now my modified version of 10-evdev.conf doesn't work like it did. Has something about evdev changed?
[19:59] <pilne> that is true, i just figured something might have been officially patched or somesuch, or an extra official pkg
[20:00] <docmur> I have XMING installed on Windows and putty setup to forward the X session.  When I run virt-manager, I'm not getting any errors, but nothing shows up.  This was working fine two days ago and with no alterations, it fails today
[20:01] <tgm4883> docmur: how is that a ubuntu issue?
[20:02] <docmur> The server I'm connecting to is running 15.04 and it's what I'm launchig virt-manager from
[20:02] <k1l_> docmur: sidenote: 15.04 is dead. you need to upgrade that to 15.10
[20:03] <tgm4883> docmur: do you have another ubuntu box to test from?
[20:03] <docmur> no, we only have Windows boxes for the clients and one Ubuntu server.  I've never seen this problem before :S
[20:04] <tgm4883> docmur: and nothing changed on the ubuntu "server"?
 i am losing my wifi card after reboot or standby. cant seem to cure it so willing to pay
[20:04] <akik> docmur: any other programs failing to display on xming?
[20:04] <docmur> sorry I lied, I'm running 14.04
[20:04]  * tgm4883 would fire up a live disk and see if it works there
[20:05] <armguy> anyone know why ps does not show unscd in the output but status shows its running. I have tried ps aux auxm -eaH and only thing I can find is nscd , Is nscd the same thing even though two separate services?
[20:06] <cetex> hm, maybe path-exclude /etc/init* could work in dpkg.. :)
[20:06] <tgm4883> cetex: are you just looking at changing the init scripts?
[20:07] <cetex> yeah. i'm building a pxe image, but i've spent at least a couple of weeks just troubleshooting the init scripts that fail for mysterious reasons
[20:08] <cetex> and stuff that isn't needed
[20:09] <cetex> for example, how to disable plymouth from launching, trying to do it the "right" way, it screws up console input during boot (and we want serial console during boot since we need to be able to troubleshoot why stuff isn't booting properly for some reason, not getting an ip is one of those)
[20:09] <hecatae> docmur, there were windows updates last night, might be worth checking what microsoft "fixed"
[20:10] <webigor> hi
[20:10] <webigor> Is there anyone that knows why Google deleted origin-chip?
[20:10] <webigor> from chrome
[20:10] <cetex> preferrably i'd like it if i could disable some requirements easily, for example remove * depending on plymouth entirely since it's just wasting resources / consuming ramdisk
[20:12] <ocealot> how do I install arch?
[20:12] <Linkandzelda> i have a problem with one of my ubuntu servers running 14.04.3. when i use top without sudo or without being root i only get a small amount of processes shown. in 14.04.1 which was not the case. how can i change this to show all processes?
[20:12] <akik> cetex: are you still using grub to boot it?
[20:12] <cetex> nope.
[20:12] <cetex> ipxe
[20:12] <cetex> custom initscript (50lines of bash)
[20:12] <cetex> zram for ramdisk
[20:13] <cetex> it's basically what coreos does, but based on ubuntu.
[20:13] <cetex> keeping it as close to a normal system as possible, but still very slim.
[20:14] <cetex> *keeping the feel as close to a normal system as possible
[20:14] <akik> i don't think #ubuntu wants to touch stuff that's that custom
[20:14] <cetex> yeah. probably not
[20:15] <ioria> cetex i used this, idk if fits your needs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[20:15] <hpp> ocealot: you could try manjaro or antergos if you want arch
[20:16] <ocealot> ok thanks
[20:16] <ubuntu503> Hello. Can someone tell me when the Live Session User password is for ubuntu 16.04. I figured either ubuntu or password but no luck
[20:16] <cetex> ioria: yeah. that's highly customized as well in our case..
[20:17] <webigor> It's empty
[20:17] <webigor> maybe
[20:18] <ubuntu503> No. Unlock is not enabled without a password
[20:20] <cetex> so, let's turn the question around then. If i want to remove the dependency from mountall on plymouth, is there a way to do this while still being able to download the latest mountall from ubuntu? :)
[20:20] <cetex> some way to override it in the system?
[20:20] <momo_> hi
[20:21] <kisb_com> hello
[20:22] <ubuntu503> Can someone tell me when the Live Session User password is for ubuntu 16.04. I figured either ubuntu or password but no luck
[20:22] <CutMeOwnThroat> what are you using as the username
[20:23] <tgm4883> cetex: have you tried dpkg --ignore-depends
[20:23] <ubuntu503> CutMeOwnThroat: Live session user
[20:23] <tgm4883> ubuntu503: have you tried no password?
[20:23] <ubuntu503> tgm4883: not an option
[20:24] <tgm4883> ubuntu503: what are you trying to do?
[20:24] <cetex> tgm4883: nope, but i guess that requires that i download the deb's manually somehow?
[20:24] <ubuntu503> tgm4883: unlock the screen
[20:24] <ubuntu503> tgm4883: I walked away for a meeting and now the live usb session is locked
[20:24] <cetex> i'd like some way of telling apt to ignore all dependencies on a certain package, just don't install it at any time, and don't complain about broken dependencies / force me to do apt-get -f install to install anything else..
[20:25] <CutMeOwnThroat> how did you get into the session in the first place
[20:25] <tgm4883> ubuntu503: so just hitting enter does nothing?
[20:25] <cetex> maybe faking that it's installed could solve this
[20:25] <CutMeOwnThroat> cetex, that's not how apt works
[20:26] <nacc> cetex: i don't think that's a supported or possible operation
[20:26] <nacc> cetex: you can't break a fundamental expectation of the package manager and expect it to work :)
[20:26] <cetex> i kinda understand that.
[20:27] <CutMeOwnThroat> cetex, you can always build and install outside the package system in /usr/local or so ... the job of apt is to keep dependencies between its packages consistent. it's doing it.
[20:27] <nacc> cetex: the only other option you have, to pare a system down, is to build packages yourself
[20:27] <nacc> cetex: i mean, you're basically getting into the distro business at that point, anyways :)
[20:28] <cetex> yeah. i know
[20:28] <cetex> but there's a huge step from heavily modifying a distro and building your own
[20:28] <cetex> one would require a couple of hacks and similar, while the other would require rebuilding the entire system
[20:28] <cetex> + maintaining updates.
[20:29] <cetex> and i just want to heavily modify some parts of it.
[20:29] <nacc> not when you're talking about removing all of /etc/init or plymouth
[20:29] <nacc> that's basically a fork at that point
[20:29] <nacc> it's no longer "modification", imo
[20:30] <cetex> right. but building all packages myself is still a huge step from where i'm at now.
[20:30] <bunya> hi
[20:30] <CutMeOwnThroat> cetex, you can use equivs to make dummy packages that pretend that certain dependencies are there... or you can always unpack the package, remove the dependencies and re-pack it. Not that that's overly advisable.
[20:31] <nacc> cetex: i just don't think you're going to be able to take the next step (removal of basic building blocks) without rebuilding something
[20:31] <CutMeOwnThroat> cetex, and building packages is trivial with apt-get -b source <packagename>
[20:33] <cetex> yeah.. i'll see what i end up with. maybe a couple of equivs could solve the problem.
[20:34] <cetex> debootstrap -> install packages made with equivs to fix the dependency issues -> remove default packages -> solved.
[20:35] <cetex> another alternative to do this "the proper way" is to basically make my own distro, but then we loose the possibility of a quick apt-get install <something> when troubleshooting a host, application or similar.
[20:35] <CutMeOwnThroat> I don't see where you get the dependencies from, though... the packages need the libraries
[20:36] <cetex> I'm just guessing here, but i don't see how mountall dpending on plymouth is neccesary for a chroot
[20:38] <CutMeOwnThroat> I guess you will find out
[20:39] <ioria> cetex, "Plymouth is a dependency of mountall which is a dependency of upstart. So upstart pulls in plymouth. "
[20:40] <cetex> yeah. but i think i've gotten what i need. i'll create a fake plymouth package and fix the dependency that way instead.
[20:40] <cetex> and a couple of others.
[20:40] <CutMeOwnThroat> cetex, mountall is linked to  libply-boot-client.so.2
[20:41] <CutMeOwnThroat> if you don't recompile it without whatever functionality is provided by this, it will not run
[20:41] <CutMeOwnThroat> oh, and to libply.so.2
[20:42] <cetex> but that isn't plymouth itself, that's libplymouth2.
[20:42] <CutMeOwnThroat> but seriously... you should be doing this research... it's not actually so hard... and if you say you cannot, maybe this isn't a task you should do
[20:43] <CutMeOwnThroat> I'm on debian... and there there is only a "plymouth" package
[20:43] <CutMeOwnThroat> and it contains said runtime libraries
[20:48] <CutMeOwnThroat> cetex, mkdir mountall; cd mountall;  apt-get download mountall ; unar mountall; tar -xvf data.tar.xz | grep bin/ ; ldd ./sbin/mountall
[20:49] <CutMeOwnThroat> DONT show me the output of that... it's for you to look at, not for me
[21:10] <monsieur_h> Heya
[21:12] <teaearlgraycold> So I've got a weird issue - I probably just don't understand permissions though. So I was apache's user, www-data, to have access to the folder /var/ossec. That folder has 550 permissions, owner by root, and is in the ossec group. www-data is in the ossec group but can not read the /var/ossec folder.
[21:13] <teaearlgraycold> Shouldn't the g+r permission bit for /var/ossec allow all users in the ossec group to read the folder?
[21:13] <Arbok> hi, hows it going
[21:14] <geirha> teaearlgraycold: Yes. They'll also need execute permissions to all parent directories up to, and including /
[21:15] <teaearlgraycold> geirha: well / has a+x, /var has a+x, and they're all owned by root
[21:16] <teaearlgraycold> And /var/ossec has g+x
[21:17] <geirha> Right, then if  ''id''  outputs the ossec group, the current user should have access to list the directory content and enter it
[21:19] <teaearlgraycold> geirha: okay looks like I was mistaken in how to add users to group. I was running `adduser <user> <group>`. What is the proper command?
[21:20] <geirha> teaearlgraycold: that's correct, but it doesn't take effect in already logged in sessions
[21:20] <teaearlgraycold> Okay I'll just restart it then
[21:20] <geirha> if you log in as www-data again with e.g.  sudo -iu www-data
[21:20] <geirha> yikes, no restart is way overkill
[21:20] <teaearlgraycold> Well I can't log in as www-data
[21:21] <teaearlgraycold> I can restart apache I guess
[21:21] <geirha> ah like that, yes, restarting apache should do the trick
[21:21] <teaearlgraycold> Awesome, that seems to have worked
[21:21] <cetex> CutMeOwnThroat: sorry for the delay, i get what you mean, but currently i'm feeling pretty happy with being able to try out faking package installations, and then doing something like path-exclude /etc/init and similar to get it to work like we need it to do.
[21:21] <teaearlgraycold> Thanks.
[21:26] <xabbix> I'm experiencing high load average figures on a brand new server (installed from image today) with almost no running processes. Here's an image: http://i.imgur.com/aV46kz0.png
[21:26] <xabbix> Any ideas how to detect where its coming from?
[21:26] <Ben64> don't worry about it
[21:27] <xabbix> Ben64: Was that for me?
[21:27] <Ben64> yep
[21:28] <xabbix> Ben64: Why shouldn't I worry? The server feels very sluggish, it's a 64GB mem with a Xeon processor, shouldn't be slow at all
[21:28] <cetex> switch to top instead so you see irq's and stuff
[21:28] <Ben64> how is it sluggish
[21:29] <xabbix> Ben64: When I accidentally type an incorrect command, the time it takes the server to respond and tell me there's no such command is about 10 seconds. And overall, feels like its overloaded when you are waiting for various commands to output
[21:29] <cetex> see if it's sys (sy) or waiting (wa) or similar
[21:29] <cetex> should be line 3 in top
[21:29] <cetex> my guess is storage issue
[21:30] <xabbix> sy is at 0.0, wa is at 0.1
[21:30] <Ben64> look at it while you're waiting on a command to output
[21:30] <xabbix> one sec
[21:30] <Ben64> maybe try atop too, it will show disk utilization
[21:31] <cetex> ah, right. atop as well. or apt-get install sysstat and then "mpstat -P ALL 1"
[21:32] <cetex> iowait, irq, soft and steal should all be very low in mpstat
[21:32] <xabbix> Yes, absolute zero on all
[21:32] <cetex> but i'm guessing you'll see iowait :)
[21:33] <cetex> and the reason for iowait could be newly installed server and a raid controller which prioritizes syncing up the hard drives (if you run mirror, raid5 or similar) instead of giving you fast disk performance.
[21:33] <xabbix> Its been this way for a few hours now, seems to be fixed now for whatever reason.
[21:33] <xabbix> Load is down to 0.18
[21:34] <xabbix> maybe my server provider had some scripts running after initial load? Not sure.
[21:34] <teaearlgraycold> can I just edit /etc/fstab to add filesystems to mount on boot?
[21:35] <Ben64> teaearlgraycold: yep
[21:35] <Bashing-om> teaearlgraycold: ^^ See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 <- bodhi.zazen -Understanding fstab .
[21:37] <alanr> hello
[21:37] <alanr> brasilians?]
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> !br
[21:54] <anonymous_> ....
[22:04] <adeon_> can BTRFS be used in raid over the network?
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> adeon_  better ask in #btrfs
[22:05] <adeon_> thx monkeydust
[22:06] <dillon> guys, I'm trying to install PCSX2 (playstation 2 emulator) and I went to noobslab to get all the commands for terminal and when I try to get the bios files all I get is "HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found" I tried it four times and I get the same thing.  Here is the url I am using http://www.noobslab.com/2013/01/install-ps2-emulator-in-ubuntu.html could someone here help me out?
[22:07] <hrrmph> dillon: nope. Those BIOS files are pirated
[22:07] <dillon> hrrmph ok thanks, I wasn't sure
[22:08] <hrrmph> dillon: there is some way to extract them from your own machine, but I think you have to hack it
[22:08] <dillon> that is surpass my computer expertise
[22:17] <Arvalmo> Hi all :)
[22:24] <Executioner> Hi
[22:24] <Bobzone> Hello
[22:24] <Executioner>  I can't seem to be able to install htop-2.0 and apache-2.5 with apt-get, it can't find it within the repositories. Aren't they released now?
[22:24] <Bobzone> Which ubuntu have you got installed?
[22:25] <derpsauce> anyone good with taskwarrior?
[22:25] <LambdaComplex> Executioner: I'm on Arch and it's only up to Apache 2.4, so I highly doubt 2.5 is in Ubuntu's repos
[22:25] <Executioner> Oh, so it's only available from sources right now?
[22:26] <Iridos> sns
[22:26] <derpsauce> Yeah, It's not on any main ones, I found it in a website directory somewhere
[22:26] <derpsauce> I'm specifically looking for taskd
[22:26] <nacc> Executioner: xenial currently has 2.4.18 or so
[22:26] <derpsauce> Any good links for installing that?
[22:26] <LambdaComplex> https://httpd.apache.org/
[22:26] <Executioner> What about htop2?
[22:26] <LambdaComplex> The Apache website itself only has 2.4
[22:26] <nacc> Executioner: 1.0.3 or so
[22:27] <LambdaComplex> Executioner: So....who said 2.5 is out?
[22:27] <Executioner> Saw somewhere that 2.0 was just released
[22:27] <LambdaComplex> I meant Apache
[22:27] <nacc> Executioner: yes, so "just released" has no bearing on it being in Ubuntu...
[22:27] <nacc> Executioner: and, arguably, means it is *less* likely to be there
[22:28] <LambdaComplex> Arch has it :P
[22:28] <LambdaComplex> Executioner: "Recently-released software" and "Ubuntu" don't exactly mix, you know...
[22:29] <nacc> LambdaComplex: tbh, don't care about arch here :)
[22:29] <LambdaComplex> nacc: tbh, wasn't talking to you :)
[22:30] <Executioner> LambdaComplex: that's actually news for me
[22:30] <Executioner> Thanks anyway
[22:38] <ahmad> hi.
[22:38] <SchrodingersScat> hello
[22:39] <ahmad> I need some help. when i run apt-get update. at the end i get this kind of messages. E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[22:39] <nacc> ahmad: what version of ubuntu?
[22:39] <ahmad> and i cant find skype in ubuntu software center. i am on 15.10. new install
[22:40] <ahmad> i have enabled ubuntu partners.
[22:40] <The_Woodsman> is this a decent place to ask about problems with SSH, or should I check somewhere else
[22:40] <nacc> ahmad: any 3rd party repositories? i believe that message will give you more output than that normally as to what index files actually failed
[22:40] <nacc> ahmad: can you pastebin the complete output of `apt get update`?
[22:40] <ahmad> yes i can. i will get back here with the link. thank you nacc
[22:41] <ahmad> here it is. http://pastebin.com/VYWVG5Nr
[22:42] <Melio> do you guys use pepperflash instead of adobeflash for chrome
[22:42] <ahmad> nacc: here it is. http://pastebin.com/VYWVG5Nr
[22:42] <SchrodingersScat> The_Woodsman: can go ahead and ask, if it's far too ssh specific then someone will likely direct you elsewhere.
[22:43] <ahmad> SchrodingersScat: are you dead or alive ? :)
[22:43] <SchrodingersScat> ahmad: If reality and I meet, both explode.
[22:43] <nacc> ahmad: ok, so not sure what those PPAs are from, but it would appear that at least that may not be there anymore?
[22:43] <ahmad> this still remains a mystery
[22:43] <nacc> ahmad: i wonder if it's a symptom of mirroring going on right now ... does the hash sum mismatch always happen?
[22:43] <xangua> Melio: pepper flash downloads and extracts flash from Google chrome
[22:43] <The_Woodsman> I'm trying to SSH into a tunnel and no matter what it seems I do, i'm getting permission denied (publickey). Is there a problem on the server's end, or is there anything I should try to fix it?
[22:44] <ahmad> nacc: i just installed ubuntu after a year or so. i dont really know if its with 15.10 or if there is some other problem.
[22:44] <Madhumper69> when firewall is active and i do a wget google.com i get error "unable to resolve host address, i opened port 53 for DNS and no change???
[22:44] <Melio> xangua, i'm not sure what you mean, i don't need it? or don't run it
[22:45] <Melio> i'm trying to solve video glitchs that cause videos to stop after like a few seconds
[22:45] <ahmad> nacc: i used to use 12.4 till like last year. I am absolutely new to 15.10
[22:45] <Melio> they forget to buffer or something
[22:45] <nacc> ahmad: also, does it happen with archive.ubuntu.com as opposed to pk.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[22:45] <Melio> most solutions point to pepperflash to replace adobeflash
[22:45] <ahmad> SchrodingersScat: awesome name bro.
[22:45] <k1l_> ahmad: you got a lot of PPAs there. is that really  a new install?
[22:46] <ahmad> nacc: can i change them to archive.ubuntu.com? i think the pk is for pakistan specific ppas
[22:46] <k1l_> ahmad: one ppa ist not available for 15.10
[22:46] <SchrodingersScat> The_Woodsman: does it have fail2ban installed, and if so did you trip fail2ban?
[22:46] <ahmad> k1l_: yes it is new installed 2 days ago. still trying to get all needed softwares installed. and skype is one of them
[22:47] <nacc> ahmad: it's the pakistan mirror, probably -- it's clear you have added several ppa since you installed, some of which don't support 15.10
[22:47] <k1l_> ahmad: "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*"   then do "sudo apt update
[22:47] <ahmad> k1l_: which one is it? sorry I am a complete noob. trying to learn these things.
[22:47] <The_Woodsman> SchrodingersScat: i'm not 100% sure if it has fail2ban installed (admittedly I just had to look up fail2ban). But if it bans on malicious looking activity, i'm quite sure I didn't trip any of that
[22:47] <ahmad> ok nacc & k1l_
[22:48] <k1l_> ahmad: http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsvetko.tsvetkov/  that one
[22:48] <k1l_> ahmad: that PPA is just useless on a 15.10. whoever said to use that on a 15.10 hasnt got any clue
[22:49] <ahmad> that must be android studio one i guess. the first thing i installed. k1l_
[22:49] <k1l_> ahmad: i doubt it
[22:50] <ahmad> k1l_: i am still getting the same hash sum missmathes
[22:50] <ahmad> after doing what you just guided me to do
[22:51] <ahmad> k1l_: its not just with that ppa. there are ubuntu's own ppas as well. for example :    W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsvetko.tsvetkov/trusty-backports/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[22:52] <ahmad> ah sorry. wrong one coppied
[22:52] <ahmad> k1l_: like this one: W: Failed to fetch http://pk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[22:52] <k1l_> ahmad: ubuntu original repos are not PPA. PPA is just for 3rd parties
[22:53] <ahmad> k1l_: sorry, I didn't know. thought they all are same.
[22:54] <ahmad> nacc: any sugesstion?
[22:54] <k1l_> ahmad: then change to the mainservers or another mirror
[22:55] <ahmad> k1l_: please tell me how to change to main servers or other mirror which ever one you thing would be the best.
[22:55] <nacc> ahmad: just use archive.ubuntu.com rather than pk.archive
[22:55] <nacc> ahmad: it will be slower, i'm guessing
[22:56] <ahmad> nacc: how to change it to that?
[22:56] <k1l_> ahmad: open the system settings: software and updates: 1st tab
[22:56] <ahmad> k1l_: thank you
[22:57] <ahmad> changed them to main server from there :)
[22:57] <darkelfjuggalo> i just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 last night and since then, my monitor is acting up... it keeps scrambling and clearing, or going black and retuning scrambled... I've possibly going out[this was bought in 2007] but the Operating system is also periodically restarting, and everything is cleared until the Unity Desktop is displayed...
[22:58] <darkelfjuggalo> it's Possibly^
[23:00] <ahmad> k1l_: i have got this error when it tried to update cache
[23:00] <ahmad> W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 15.10 _Wily Werewolf_ - Release amd64 (20151021)/dists/wily/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs , W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 15.10 _Wily Werewolf_ - Release amd64 (20151021)/dists/wily/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update canno
[23:00] <nicomachus> !paste | ahmad
[23:00] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: Proprietary graphic's driver in use prior to the upgrade ? - purge and re-install the driver ?
[23:00] <ahmad> ubottu: sorry
[23:00] <k1l_> ahmad: open the settings again. then on2nd or 3rd tab. uncheck the cdrom repos
[23:00] <ahmad> nicomachus: sorry
[23:01] <ahmad> k1l_: ok
[23:04] <darkelfjuggalo> Bashing-om what would the exact command be [i haven't had to purge since 11.04 on a different device]
[23:05] <SchrodingersScat> The_Woodsman: and you're setting the ssh -p port properly so you're not accidentally trying to log into your real localhost?
[23:06] <ahmad> k1l_: no i am getting error about only that tsvetko ppa. i think its related to cinamon. take a look
[23:06] <The_Woodsman> SchrodingersScat: i believe i am - the -p port should be the tunnel host's port right?
[23:06] <ahmad> k1l_: should i remove it?
[23:06] <SchrodingersScat> The_Woodsman: correct
[23:07] <k1l_> ahmad: that PPA is useless for you since it doesnt have 15.10 packages
[23:07] <ahmad> k1l_: do you know how i can remove it?
[23:07] <SchrodingersScat> The_Woodsman: or, the opposite side of the 22, so if you did -R 9999:localhost:22 then you'd use ssh -p 9999 user@localhost
[23:07] <ahmad> i am sticking to LTS versions from now on.
[23:08] <The_Woodsman> SchrodingersScat: interesting... i'm pretty sure I got the port correct then
[23:10] <k1l_> !ppa-purge | ahmad
[23:10] <ptx0> k1l_: next time you see that guy with the XMING crap, see what he's doing with it, because it sounds so stupid, but i can't help but be curious
[23:10] <Bashing-om> DarkDevil: Depends on IF/Wahat proprietary driver was installed and from what means . to see some info ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[23:10] <Guest55393> Hi, I've strange problem with setting global proxy. When I run my script as root it works, when I run through root tab in incrontab one part doesnt work - when I'm using su - $user -c 'gsetting set org.gnome.system.proxy ...'. Does anybody have idea where is the difference between those types of running script?
[23:11] <ahmad> k1l_: thank you
[23:11] <ahmad> ubottu: thank you
[23:13] <ahmad> k1l_: i unchecked it from software & updates and cache update went without any errors
[23:13] <darkelfjuggalo> i was restarted, so if i missed a reply...
[23:13] <darkelfjuggalo> Also here are my Drivers http://tinypic.com/r/10zmxkg/9
[23:13] <ahmad> ubottu: really? i think you are a person
[23:14] <SchrodingersScat> !msgthebot
[23:14] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: MY reply "  Depends on IF/Wahat proprietary driver was installed and from what means . to see some info ' sudo lshw -C display ' ." // Looking at your link .
[23:16] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: The link info not much help .. post back that 'lshw' output .. see where we go then .
[23:17] <darkelfjuggalo> http://pastebin.com/Qz1TU6Hg
[23:20] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: No proprietary driver, the Graphics are Intel and the Intel driver is loaded "  configuration: driver=i915 " . I do not know further to advise for your ituation . Intel just works !
[23:21] <Bashing-om> situation*
[23:25] <darkelfjuggalo> Bashing-om when I reloaded the Drivers window, it insisted on updating and updated something i didn't have a chance to see [i ran an apt-get update/upgrade shortly after the distro upgrade last night, and it didn't have any changed]
[23:27] <darkelfjuggalo> hopefully this fixs my problem[ so far im not scrambling or Blinking]
[23:28] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: Maybe the micro-code for bios .. the hardware you have for graphics is well supported by Intel, They do peovide the driver and there is no other without going beeding edge testing from their PPA .
[23:28] <nolsen> How do I get fglrx drivers to work on mainline kernel?
[23:29] <nolsen> Should I try compiling fglrx from source since the package doesn't work.
[23:29] <darkelfjuggalo> the screen just blinked and scrambled again, I don't know what to do regarding the BIOs...
[23:30] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: Not to point any fingers at bios .. I guess now is the time to start reading the logs, see what the logs report for errors .
[23:31] <darkelfjuggalo> how do I pull that up?
[23:31] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: Unity ? as the desktop ?
[23:32] <nolsen> erm, not compile from source. obtain the copy from website.
[23:33] <darkelfjuggalo> yes, Unity... Ubuntu Default GUI... usually i have issues with the my Network Drivers[Wi-fi] or installing an Application, usually fixable almost immediately... this is knew to me...[i learn as i have the problem to work through]
[23:34] <Bashing-om> nolsen: What card ? maybe legacy and AMD has dropped support ?
[23:35] <nolsen> Bashing-om: Why would they drop support for a Radeon 3 series?
[23:35] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: Intel just works - generally - and I have little experience with the Intel chip sets. but we can look at the logs and see what we can find . ' cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log ' as one place to start looking .
[23:37] <nolsen> Bashing-om: Now I encounter a new issue, fglrx-core is not located in the repository.
[23:37] <nolsen> (for 16.04)
[23:37] <darkelfjuggalo> http://pastebin.com/QRMvsZfY
[23:37] <Bashing-om> nolsen: Ouch ! That support was dropped some years back . ATI bought out AMD and shorty quit the support for the ATI cards .
[23:38] <nolsen> This isn't an ATI card.
[23:38] <nolsen> It's AMD A4 APU series with R3 graphics.
[23:39] <darkelfjuggalo> nolsen is 16.04 in beta?
[23:39] <nolsen> I even still have the AMD sticker on here.
[23:39] <nolsen> darkelfjuggalo: Yes but it's better than 15.04 :p
[23:39] <nolsen> It's quite stable for me.
[23:39] <nolsen> 15.10 I mean
[23:40] <nolsen> I use 16.04 as my personal OS.
[23:40] <darkelfjuggalo> nolsen, i just got 15.10 and i only found out it was ready becuase of a Flash issue that prevented my dad from playing his game...the flash issue is fixed but the graphics are a problems...
[23:41] <darkelfjuggalo> Bashing-om i dont know what any of that log means
[23:41] <nolsen> Bashing-om: Are you sure you didn't mistaken the wrong card, because this isn't an ATI card.
[23:41] <nolsen> AMD A4 APU w/ R3 Graphics.
[23:42] <zykotick9> darkelfjuggalo: are you aware ubuntu version match up to release date?  so 16.04 will be released 4th month of 2016... i think that's in the future still ;)
[23:43] <darkelfjuggalo> zykotick9, i was asking Nolsen since he said he was using 16.04. i am aware that this is only the beginning of march
[23:44] <darkelfjuggalo> Bashing-om I see 1 warning: Error line 83, but i dont't understand it so i have no idea if it is relevant
[23:44] <zykotick9> darkelfjuggalo: ahhh. sorry. my bad.  (/me might not be seeing both sides of that conversation)
[23:45] <Bashing-om> nolsen: I an sure I have the wrong card .. but from that info provided .. no Just need better info as " IF its an HD 2x/3x/4x then you are out of luck as AMD announced <last> summer that it is relegating these chipsets to legacy status and will not be developing new drivers for them." . Let's refocus as see what it is exaxtly that you have ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ' and take it from there .
[23:45] <darkelfjuggalo> zykotick9 no problem
[23:45] <nolsen> Bashing-om: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R3 Graphics] [1002:9850] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[23:45] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: What I see so far - still reading " [+1412.54s] WARNING: Error locking login1 session: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.login1.NoSuchSession: No session 'c1' known " .
[23:45] <nolsen> Capabilities: <access denied>
[23:45] <nolsen>  top kek
[23:46] <pilne> i'm looking forward to 16.04, but i'm still perplexed as why mir and not wayland
[23:46] <pilne> +to
[23:46] <nolsen> pilne: 16.04 doesn't use Mir yet.
[23:46] <k1l_> pilne: on 16.04 its still x11
[23:46] <pilne> no, but it is still the path being worked towards
[23:47] <nolsen> Still using ugly Unity 7 still
[23:47] <pilne> nah, i stick with ubuntu-gnome, i like a lot about unity, just not enough LOL
[23:47] <nolsen> Unity8 doesn't even have the taskbar for some reason yet.
[23:47] <Bashing-om> nolsen: Yeah .. new card .. What returns in a pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit ' see what I can find for support .
[23:48] <nolsen> s/taskbar/launcher
[23:48] <pilne> i'd be all over an actual ubuntu that was cinnamon though, not a fan of LTS stuff so no mint for me
[23:48] <k1l_> nolsen: it doesn. maybe your video card drivers are an issue there
[23:48] <danialbehzadi> Hi, where to ask about ubuntu-sdk?
[23:48] <nolsen> k1l_: Maybe, settings and such doesn't work, just exits instantly on launch.
[23:49] <dillon>  could someone give me the terminal command to reformat a flash drive in FAT?
[23:49] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: Who is " brokw: " on your system ?
[23:49] <nolsen> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15277305/
[23:49] <nolsen> Didn't ran that command.
[23:49] <darkelfjuggalo> the computer is my Dad's he is the only User
[23:50] <danialbehzadi> dillon: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdXY
[23:50] <Bashing-om> nolsen: Look'n .
[23:51] <dillon> danialbehzadi is that the command so just type it in just like that and it will reformat the only flash drive that is plugged into the computer?
[23:51] <zykotick9> dillon: note the XY in /dev/sdXY are variables, you need to put the correct letter and number there!
[23:52] <danialbehzadi> dillon: you should specify the exact X and Y
[23:52] <dillon> what do you mean? i am new to terminal
[23:53] <pilne> insert usb, type "df" note the drive/partition that is the usb, proceede with above
[23:53] <danialbehzadi> dillon: run "sudo fdisk -l", you will understand the structure
[23:53] <Bashing-om> nolsen: Well .. Open source driver is loaded .. so what does the system see for available drivers, what returns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[23:54] <nolsen> Bashing-om: amd64-microcode
[23:55] <danialbehzadi> Is there any specific IRC channel to ask about ubuntu-sdk?
[23:55] <dillon> i did not see the flash drive when i did sudo fdisk -l
[23:56] <dillon> or at least I did not see it listed and when I plugged it in I get and error message "unable to mount"
[23:56] <zzxc> danialbehzadi: Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[23:57] <danialbehzadi> dillon: Are you on a graphical environment? So open "disks" utility
[23:57] <danialbehzadi> zzxc: thanks
[23:57] <k1l_> danialbehzadi: what is the question about it? does #ubuntu-app-devel help?
[23:58] <zzxc> dillon: Do you know what the device is formatted?
[23:58] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: brokw is your Dad's username ? .. and we follow the bread crumbs .
[23:59] <darkelfjuggalo> yes
[23:59] <danialbehzadi> k1l_: I get error every time the sdk tries to initialize the bootstrap proccess to creat a kit
[23:59] <darkelfjuggalo> it is the only nonroot user name
[23:59] <whotoo> I have just installed 14.04. I can't seem to find anything on making it so I don't have to put the encryption key every time I start up. Anyone got a link or know how to do it?