| robert_ancell_ | attente, still here? | 01:57 |
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| ximion | robert_ancell_: thank you for implementing MediaBaseUrl! | 02:05 |
| ximion | this patch looks exactly how I expected it to be - I also think it has a high chance of being accepted upstream | 02:06 |
| robert_ancell_ | ximion, yeah, it seems uncontrovercial | 02:06 |
| ximion | I think I want to cherry pick those two patches you apply at Ubuntu for Debian as well :) | 02:06 |
| robert_ancell_ | I was hoping you would :) | 02:07 |
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| ximion | hughsie is releasing asglib so quickly, it sometimes doesn't make sense to even add patches because there will be a new release almost every week | 02:07 |
| ximion | but those two are important :) | 02:07 |
| ximion | I have an IRC log of hughsie requesting a feature like this a long time ago, and me rejecting it, btw :D | 02:09 |
| ximion | (that was in 2013 ^^) | 02:09 |
| ximion | (and it was a different implementation suggested there, but still it's a bit ironic :D) | 02:10 |
| attente | robert_ancell: hi | 02:24 |
| robert_ancell | attente, were your apt plugin changes sufficient for loading .debs directly? I was updating the changelog and wondering what it should say / if it should close a bug | 02:25 |
| robert_ancell | But I've uploaded now | 02:25 |
| attente | robert_ancell: they install the debs, but post installation, the app page doesn't refresh properly | 02:26 |
| attente | robert_ancell: i wouldn't put it into the changelog yet | 02:26 |
| robert_ancell | ok | 02:27 |
| robert_ancell | attente, btw, I think every g_variant_new_parsed commit you've made has broken something :) | 02:43 |
| attente | robert_ancell: oh seriously? | 02:44 |
| robert_ancell | attente, yeah, you dropped the () off the args to install/remove for APT | 02:44 |
| robert_ancell | you sent ['a', 'b'] instead of (['a', 'b']) | 02:44 |
| attente | ah, shit sorry... | 02:44 |
| robert_ancell | np, just re-uploading now. I keep not testing your changes :) | 02:45 |
| attente | the other one i think was ok | 02:47 |
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| hikiko | Hi | 06:03 |
| pitti | Good morning | 06:25 |
| hikiko | hi pitti | 07:00 |
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| ksamak | hey all | 08:14 |
| ksamak | Trevinho: hey. i opened Bug#816652 in debian, which is about re-introducing compiz | 08:17 |
| ksamak | and i'd like to have a couple opinions on that, particularly about upstream, and patches | 08:18 |
| Laney | hello | 09:04 |
| pitti | hey Laney! | 09:04 |
| seb128 | good morning Laney | 09:05 |
| seb128 | &pitti! | 09:05 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, ça va ? | 09:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, oui ! et toi ? | 09:07 |
| pitti | ça va bien aussi ! | 09:08 |
| pitti | having some fun with subtle lxc changes which keep breaking autopkgtest | 09:08 |
| Laney | hey pitti & seb128 | 09:10 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, happy friday! | 09:11 |
| Laney | happy friday! | 09:11 |
| Laney | what's up? | 09:11 |
| seb128 | trying to wake up, good that it's friday, going to enjoy being in w.e tonight! | 09:13 |
| Laney | party time? | 09:13 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, you're going somewhere? | 09:20 |
| davmor2 | P A R T Y? Cause I gotta | 09:22 |
| * Laney dances the macarena with davmor2 | 09:23 | |
| davmor2 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfHSMlX1mWY | 09:25 |
| davmor2 | Laney: that one is a special for you :) | 09:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, just in France visiting familly&friends | 09:28 |
| seb128 | also I'm a bit tired today so looking forward a good night and some relaxing ;-) | 09:29 |
| Laney | davmor2: puts me to shame | 09:29 |
| davmor2 | Laney: no that is this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie-E-S9tUPA | 09:30 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell is doing a good job on g-s, daily batch of updates, now screenshots are displayed! | 09:30 |
| Laney | mediabaseurl for the win | 09:32 |
| seb128 | opening local debs also work now, good job attente! | 09:33 |
| seb128 | why is evince not listed :-/ | 09:35 |
| seb128 | I wonder if that has to do with the .desktop being in -common | 09:36 |
| davmor2 | am I the only one getting a weird redraw glitch? It's like the screen kinda phases to the right slightly and then back again, only happens once or twice a day though | 09:39 |
| seb128 | davmor2, I don't know, I'm weird redraw/refresh issues for some weeks, it's like a flicker rather | 09:42 |
| seb128 | I didn't notice side shifting though | 09:42 |
| seb128 | so maybe not the same issue | 09:42 |
| seb128 | I'm->I've | 09:42 |
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| davmor2 | seb128: that's it, it is a flicker but I noticed just that it is like it redraws over a few pixels and then goes no thats not right and draws it back where it should be it's really quick though so could just be seen as a flicker, are you on an intel gfx stack too? | 09:50 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:51 |
| seb128 | intel is crap in xenial for me though :-/ | 09:51 |
| davmor2 | wonder if it is a driver issue | 09:51 |
| seb128 | like I've kernel error on vt switch | 09:51 |
| seb128 | or after starting a guest session and closing it and try to go to a vt they are missing | 09:52 |
| seb128 | with kernel errors in syslog | 09:52 |
| davmor2 | seb128: yeah I had a kernel panic when I unplugged the monitor hdmi connection | 09:52 |
| willcooke | morning gang, gonna be around for a bit this morning | 09:54 |
| willcooke | then gone around lunchtime | 09:54 |
| Laney | hey willcooke | 09:56 |
| Laney | didn't expect you | 09:56 |
| willcooke | I've got a couple of hours, so trying to finish reviews before the weekend | 09:56 |
| seb128 | good morning willcooke | 09:56 |
| seb128 | do you feel better? | 09:56 |
| willcooke | still coughing | 09:56 |
| seb128 | :-( | 09:56 |
| willcooke | but not sneezing as much | 09:57 |
| ogra_ | start smoking, the tar layer protects you | 09:57 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: morning looks like the dongles are in the hands of cyphermox so should be sorted. | 09:57 |
| willcooke | davmor2, thanks! | 09:58 |
| * Sweet5hark1 starts reading the lo-dicts FFe epic | 10:31 | |
| xnox | good morning! unity doesn't start for me today. | 11:10 |
| xnox | and it's not just me today, guest session too | 11:10 |
| * xnox blames nouveau interfeering with intel graphics, new x, new kernel. | 11:12 | |
| ogra_ | stop using that old stuff, Mir is the future :P | 11:13 |
| xnox | ogra_, mir does not do highdpi on my infinity screen | 11:14 |
| ogra_ | i wasnt aware adam does screens :) | 11:14 |
| seb128 | xnox, do you have any error in .cache/upstart/unity7.log? | 11:15 |
| xnox | seb128, upstart constantly restarting unity7 doesn't help. it fails to get monitor0 | 11:17 |
| xnox | or some such. | 11:17 |
| * xnox is rebooting. | 11:17 | |
| xnox | gnome shell doesn't start either | 11:17 |
| seb128 | seems like rather x-ish than desktop-shells-ish then... | 11:18 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, ^ | 11:18 |
| xnox | wooW8sha | 11:18 |
| xnox | argh! | 11:18 |
| * ogra_ notes down | 11:18 | |
| seb128 | xnox, new password time! | 11:18 |
| xnox | yeah. | 11:19 |
| xnox | ok, i've blacklisted nouvoue thing, updated initramfs, booted without splash (plymouth is borked) | 11:20 |
| xnox | and that seems to work now. | 11:20 |
| tjaalton | xnox: -proposed enabled? | 11:21 |
| * xnox ponders what's wrong with plymouth... but i have password to change and things to do. | 11:21 | |
| xnox | tjaalton, no. | 11:21 |
| xnox | (but running xenial) | 11:22 |
| tjaalton | so you didn't get new x, just a bunch of pointless rebuilds | 11:22 |
| xnox | ok. but i got new kernel. | 11:22 |
| tjaalton | yes | 11:22 |
| xnox | which to my surprise loaded and used nouveu | 11:22 |
| xnox | which is b0rked | 11:22 |
| tjaalton | you had nvidia installed but not built for this? | 11:22 |
| xnox | nope. it's dual graphics laptop and i prefer just the intel ones | 11:23 |
| * xnox don't care about graphics | 11:23 | |
| * xnox cares battery life | 11:23 | |
| tjaalton | ok, so nouveau didn't run before? | 11:23 |
| tjaalton | i mean didn't load even | 11:23 |
| xnox | correct. or maybe it was, but it was working =) | 11:23 |
| xnox | to unbreak myself, i've purged xserver nouveau and blacklist nouveau | 11:24 |
| xnox | which is possibly a too big of a hammer. | 11:24 |
| tjaalton | ok | 11:24 |
| xnox | tjaalton, what's the right way to opt into intel-only, when one has dual graphics? | 11:24 |
| xnox | (including plymouth/initramfs/dkms & booted system) | 11:24 |
| tjaalton | blacklisting nouveau probably works | 11:24 |
| tjaalton | if the bios doesn't have a switch for it | 11:25 |
| tjaalton | lenovo's do | 11:25 |
| xnox | i'm on dell xps 15, i'll check | 11:25 |
| seb128 | is evince list in gnome-software for others? trying to figure out if that's a local issue | 11:31 |
| tjaalton | xnox: could you verify the old kernel works, and the versions of working/broken | 11:31 |
| davmor2 | jibel, seb128, cyphermox: so upgrades from 14.04.4 to 16.04 are still blocked on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1550741 looks like Brian is currently debugging it though. | 11:33 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1550741 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade failed - unauthenticated package (module-init-tools)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:33 |
| willcooke | seb128, not showing here | 11:33 |
| seb128 | willcooke, thanks | 11:33 |
| davmor2 | seb128: not in software but does show in apps scope which is expected I guess | 11:34 |
| seb128 | davmor2, willcooke, thanks, I opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1553156 | 11:34 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1553156 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "evince not listed" [Undecided,New] | 11:34 |
| seb128 | davmor2, I've no ide about the release upgrader and how it consider things as trusted but if Brian is debugging it we should probably wait a bit and not duplicate work investigating the same thing | 11:36 |
| xnox | tjaalton, possibly, later. good thought. | 11:40 |
| davmor2 | seb128: agreed just keeping everyone in the loop on it. Was requested to check it as it is a critical work flow for getting 16.04 on a system :) | 11:44 |
| andyrock | "morning" | 11:46 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock! | 11:49 |
| desrt | hello andyrock ! | 11:59 |
| desrt | you beat me :) | 11:59 |
| andyrock | hey seb128 desrt | 12:01 |
| seb128 | hey desrt | 12:01 |
| seb128 | happy friday! | 12:01 |
| desrt | good morning seb128 , and all | 12:01 |
| desrt | happy friday! | 12:01 |
| seb128 | andyrock, is bug #1553165 something for you? | 12:09 |
| ubot5 | bug 1553165 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "unity launcher items stay as "installing" on errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1553165 | 12:09 |
| Laney | hey desrt! | 12:11 |
| desrt | hey Laney | 12:11 |
| Laney | still keeping up with the jet lag | 12:11 |
| Laney | impressed | 12:11 |
| desrt | i'm slowly slipping. getting closer to 7am than 6am :p | 12:11 |
| desrt | i heard w.i.l.l.c.o.o.k.e is away today | 12:12 |
| desrt | we should figure out how to take advantage of that | 12:12 |
| * Laney 's fingers slip | 12:12 | |
| desrt | :D | 12:12 |
| Laney | wonder why my systemd automount unit for an nfs share doesn't work under lxc | 12:15 |
| Laney | it didn't work /at all/ to have the nfs share in fstab for the container either | 12:15 |
| Laney | at least a non-automounted .mount unit is good | 12:16 |
| * Laney thinks this yak is looking pretty good now | 12:17 | |
| ksamak | seb128: hey | 12:36 |
| ksamak | seb128: i opened Bug#816652 in debian, which is about re-introducing compiz | 12:36 |
| ksamak | seb128: and i'd like to have a couple opinions on that, particularly about upstream, and patches | 12:37 |
| ksamak | care to take a look? | 12:37 |
| ksamak | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=816652 | 12:38 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 816652 in sponsorship-requests "RFS: compiz/1:0.9.12.2 [ITP:722451]" [Wishlist,Open] | 12:38 |
| seb128 | ksamak, hey, good work on that! I can have a look, unsure if I can help much/on what though | 12:56 |
| seb128 | davmor2, did you meant to post from bug #1553165 on the evince bug? | 12:57 |
| ubot5 | bug 1553165 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "unity launcher items stay as "installing" on errors" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1553165 | 12:57 |
| davmor2 | seb128: meh yes grabbed the wrong link | 12:58 |
| davmor2 | seb128: thanks for that :) | 13:00 |
| seb128 | yw! | 13:00 |
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| ksamak | seb128: well it's rather a matter of source format | 13:12 |
| ksamak | since ubuntu would be upstream, debian would need proper versionning, with patches for fixes (i think you guys do re-versionning, right?) | 13:13 |
| ksamak | so debian has to have its debian/source/format to 3(quilt) | 13:14 |
| ksamak | it means there has to be a compiz_0.9.12.2.orig.tar.gz that stays the same. | 13:14 |
| ksamak | do you know how/who manages that for ubuntu? | 13:15 |
| ksamak | is it Trevinho? | 13:15 |
| seb128 | yes | 13:16 |
| ksamak | ok then, i'll wait till he's available | 13:20 |
| * Sweet5hark is out while -- will be back in the afternoon though. | 13:49 | |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, have fun! | 13:49 |
| mitya57 | ksamak, right, you need a Debian revision (i.e. add -1 in debian/changelog) and either 3.0 (quilt) or 1.0 format | 14:06 |
| mitya57 | ksamak, and if you need an "upstream tarball that stays the same", you can probably grab one from https://launchpad.net/compiz/+download | 14:08 |
| mitya57 | ksamak, also s/sid/unstable/ in the changelog and close the ITP bug :) | 14:09 |
| ksamak | mitya57: hey | 14:53 |
| ksamak | thanks for the help | 14:53 |
| ksamak | but i'd generate the tar.gz, if James Cowgill didn't have that to say | 14:54 |
| ksamak | I have noticed that instead of using patches, Ubuntu has been | 14:54 |
| ksamak | creating "fake" upstream releases when fixing bugs. This isn't great | 14:54 |
| ksamak | since the latest bugfixes are now only found in Ubuntu and aren't | 14:54 |
| ksamak | easily split out for other distributions | 14:54 |
| ksamak | --end quote | 14:54 |
| ksamak | what do you think? | 14:54 |
| ksamak | mitya57: seb128 | 14:54 |
| seb128 | no real opinion | 14:56 |
| seb128 | you use whatever you want as orig tarball | 14:56 |
| seb128 | you can use the same as the ubuntu archive ones | 14:56 |
| seb128 | or make vcs snapshots | 14:56 |
| seb128 | even if I agree that proper upstream tarballs are nicer | 14:56 |
| seb128 | but that's not a blocker to get a package going | 14:57 |
| mitya57 | ksamak, if you want to use something newer than the later official release, then at least add +something to the version, like Ubuntu does | 14:58 |
| mitya57 | ksamak, if you want an example of how other Canonical software is handled in Debian, take a look at: | 15:01 |
| mitya57 | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libdbusmenu-qt | 15:01 |
| mitya57 | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libaccounts-glib | 15:01 |
| mitya57 | And you may also want talk to bregma about a possibility to make a new official upstream release. | 15:03 |
| bregma | ksamak, have you talk to the people who already have an Compiz ITP in Debian https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=722451 ? | 15:16 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 722451 in wnpp "ITP: Compiz -- Compositing "3G" window manager" [Wishlist,Open] | 15:16 |
| bregma | or at least close that one? | 15:17 |
| ksamak | bregma: yeah that's us. | 15:19 |
| ksamak | ITP closes when first FRS is closed. | 15:19 |
| ksamak | s/FRS/RFS/ | 15:19 |
| bregma | ksamak, did you push the packaging up to the repo on Alioth? | 15:19 |
| ksamak | everything's there https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=816652 | 15:20 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 816652 in sponsorship-requests "RFS: compiz/1:0.9.12.2 [ITP:722451]" [Wishlist,Open] | 15:20 |
| ksamak | even built packages | 15:20 |
| bregma | ksamak, Trevinho, I'd strongly suggest doing an 0.9.12.3 upstream Compiz release so Xenial can differentiate from Wily and Debian can get the changes packaged nicely | 15:24 |
| ksamak | bregma: that'd be nice indeed. | 15:24 |
| ksamak | bregma: BTW, does anyone know onestone ( at compiz dotorg)? | 15:26 |
| ksamak | he did a piece of cmake in compiz | 15:26 |
| Sweet5hark | back | 15:54 |
| bregma | hey wise people, we're poking around with Libertine and we've run into the problem of /usr/games not being in the default $PATH, anyone have a suggestion on the best practices for this? | 16:36 |
| kgunn | Sweet5hark: stand up? | 17:06 |
| kgunn | for SDoC | 17:06 |
| Sweet5hark | kgunn: hangout hangs | 17:06 |
| kgunn | :-/ | 17:06 |
| Sweet5hark | kgunn: maybe another invite helps? | 17:07 |
| mitya57 | bregma, /usr/games is in $PATH here, checked on a couple of machines | 17:08 |
| kgunn | Sweet5hark: re-invited...do you see a ping? | 17:08 |
| kgunn | are you a gmail user or thunderbird? | 17:09 |
| Sweet5hark | kgunn: hmm? I read my canonical email with mutt | 17:11 |
| kgunn | ah... | 17:11 |
| kgunn | gmail will ping you live if you get a ho invite | 17:11 |
| bregma | mitya57, did you check on your phone? | 17:15 |
| mitya57 | bregma, no, that was a desktop (and a server :)) | 17:15 |
| bregma | mitya57, any idea if would it be in $PATH in snappy? | 17:16 |
| mitya57 | No ideas about snappy, sorry :( | 17:17 |
| bregma | hmm, maybe apps need to be wrapped in a shell session to pick up in-container environment settings... | 17:20 |
| * bregma goes back to hacking at stuff | 17:20 | |
| kgunn | Sweet5hark: hey, so i notice in your yaml you've got source: ./libreoffice-build/ | 17:44 |
| kgunn | ...oh nvmd...i just thought through the why | 17:44 |
| kgunn | if there's no debs to pull you really do have to build | 17:44 |
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| Sweet5hark | kgunn: there are multiple reasons for that, see the bug references in ./libreoffice-build/Makefile ... | 17:49 |
| kgunn | Sweet5hark: ok...i was just thinking you could pull bins from the archive...but if debs aren't going to be supported going fwd...it kinda screws that idea | 17:50 |
| Sweet5hark | kgunn: yeah, I dont think repackaging debs is really the goal here in the end -- it would make us hard depend on those. | 17:53 |
| Laney | happy weekend! | 18:02 |
| seb128 | have a good w.e! | 18:40 |
| ximion | Laney: currently merging the time patch for the dep11-generator | 19:34 |
| ximion | I still need to look at the translations stuff more closely | 19:35 |
| mhall119 | Laney: is there a place on Launchpad to view the bzr branch for Xenial packages? | 19:42 |
| mhall119 | for example, https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ace-of-penguins only shows up to wily, but AppStream is flagging errors that only exist in the Xenial source | 19:42 |
| qengho | Oh man. "Booting ext4 root in a ZFS ZOL". I'm glad I have the weekend to think about that. | 20:59 |
| Laney | mhall119: doesn't exist for xenial :( | 21:00 |
| mhall119 | Laney: ok, for now I've gotten this much working: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mhall119/AppStreamTest | 21:02 |
| mhall119 | it's sorted by popcon "votes" which seems a better indication of user interest than all-time installs | 21:03 |
| Laney | I thought popcon was broken/not updating/something for us | 21:03 |
| mhall119 | it includes every "main" package from DEP11Hints with icon errors, and then only those from "universe" that have a popcon vote > 1 (otherwise the list is twice as long) | 21:03 |
| mhall119 | Laney: it appears to be working for the time being | 21:03 |
| mhall119 | Last generated on Fri Mar 4 12:06:42 2016 UTC. | 21:04 |
| Laney | does it get new submissions? | 21:04 |
| Laney | anyway, it's not a big deal | 21:06 |
| mhall119 | no idea, but I'm going to assume so | 21:08 |
| mhall119 | it's better than nothing anyway | 21:08 |
| Laney | ya | 21:09 |
| Laney | thanks! | 21:09 |
| Trevinho | ksamak: please ping me about that on Monday, I was off today, but I can do it next week | 21:15 |
| ximion | mhall119: nice! XPM icons aren't per se invalid, the XDG icon spec permits them, but they have such a low quality that it was decided to not include them (they are usually not bigger than 32x32px, and we would have to upscale them to 64x64px - and we generally don't upscale images, so the result in SCs looks nice) | 21:45 |
| mhall119 | ximion: ack, I can change it to say "Unsupported format" to match the actual error | 21:50 |
| ximion | mhall119: yeah, I just wanted to make sure that there are no complains in form of "the XPM icon is perfectly valid, why doesn't this work?" ;-) | 21:53 |
| ximion | so people know why this issue actually happens | 21:53 |
| ximion | Laney: I'm developing the updated appstream-generator here: https://github.com/ximion/appstream-generator - unfortunately, it will take a larger amount of time to complete it (months?), so dep11-generator will stay around for a while (obviously) | 21:55 |
| ximion | but the final rewrite will be much faster than the Python code, maybe we could even run it for every package entering the archive then, so I think this is worth the effort | 21:55 |
| ximion | especially because the new generator will also support other distributions easily (yay for deduplicating work! - although I expect Debian and Ubuntu to be the primary users, still) | 21:56 |
| ximion | mhall119: those shutdown.desktop, logout.desktop, example.desktop, etc. should probably not be in the metadata... | 21:58 |
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