[05:54] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[09:02] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> errrrrrrr, nope.  greetings.  (evening in Tokyo)
[09:24] <lordievader> cfhowlett: Was it a good day?
[09:27] <cfhowlett> indeed it twas!  Had a nice walk from the electronics district back to work ...
[09:28] <lordievader> :)
[09:28] <lordievader> Is Akiba as fancy as they say?
[09:36] <cfhowlett> it's just short of incredible.  you gotta see it to believe it.
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: sorry i wake you, he might got into uefi twilight zone lol
[11:23] <EriC^^> lol, np
[11:27] <EriC^^> where's daftykins btw? and tj?
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> no clue, oerhaks dissapeared also
[11:29] <EriC^^> hmm
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> weird stuff going on
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[18:48] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: What card(s) is monsterjamp got ? Legacy such that no FGLRX driver is available ?
[18:52] <EriC^^> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470]
[18:53] <daftykins> ouch, that's a highly legacy card :)
[18:53] <daftykins> radeon driver only, for sure
[18:53] <dax> i have one sitting in a closet. works nicely with radeon
[18:54] <dax> although mine isn't mobility so eh
[18:54] <daftykins> :)
[18:54] <daftykins> it's probably hybrid to boot, just to make EriC^^'s day :D
[18:54] <daftykins> EriC^^: hi btw :D hope you're well!
[18:58] <EriC^^> hi daftykins, you too!
[18:59] <EriC^^> i'm pretty much over my head here
[18:59] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Kitchen chores .. yeah .. "  [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470] " no FGLKRX for him .
[18:59] <EriC^^> wish i knew more about the xorg problems
[18:59] <EriC^^> i barely know a thing or 2
[18:59] <daftykins> if in doubt purge that sucker from orbit, it's the only way to be sure :)
[19:00] <daftykins> EriC^^: is it a hybrid machine or is that the only adapter? which ubuntu?
[19:00] <EriC^^> he's removed fglrx
[19:01] <EriC^^> wily, i think it's the only adapter
[19:01] <EriC^^> maybe try an older kernel?
[19:02] <daftykins> double check all fglrx related components got purged, i've seen even the most irrelevant package persist and prevent the radeon open source driver working
[19:03] <daftykins> also, sometimes we see those users with linux-image-extra missing for the running kernel - which lacks some of the components too :)
[19:03] <EriC^^> oh
[19:03] <daftykins> so a "dpkg -l | grep fglrx" and a "dpkg -l | grep linux-"
[19:03] <EriC^^> good idea
[19:04] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: The only version of the kernel for that  [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470] is in release 12.04.1 .. after .1 the xserver is no longer compatible .
[19:05] <EriC^^> oh, how did you find that out?
[19:06] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: F its an HD 2x/3x/4x then you are out of luck as AMD announced <last> summer that it is relegating these chipsets to legacy status and will not be developing new drivers for them. Existing restricted drivers from AMD won't work either, because they require X-server v1.12 and Ubuntu 12.10 uses X-server v1.13.
[19:06] <Bashing-om> That's because, starting with Ubuntu 12.04.2, the X-server version was updated to a newer version that is now incompatible with the HD 2x/3x/4x series AMD cards.
[19:08] <daftykins> *nod* and in fact now cards up to HD 7xxx are in the second wave of 'legacy'
[19:09] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Would you like my procedure to purge FGLRX and make sure that radeon installs correctly ? will pastebin it .
[19:11] <Bashing-om> Back to the kitchen .. back here soonest .
[19:13] <EriC^^> ok
[19:25] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: See what ya think : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15283773/ .
[19:27] <EriC^^> ok, thank you very much!
[19:29] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: U have had to resort to that procedure more than one to clean up after such a condition you are dealing with to get radeon to install ..make sure the OP removes those bad boot parameters !
[19:29] <dax> line 5 is pointless, apart from that looks fine
[19:29] <EriC^^> ok, i will
[19:30] <EriC^^> i have a lot to learn about xorg stuff
[19:30] <dax> radeon's built in to the linux-image-* packages and distributed as a binary package because it's open-source, so dkms isn't used by it
[19:30] <daftykins> the comments convey this imo
[19:31] <dax> sure, but it makes about as much sense as, like, installing nethack-console there :P
[19:31] <Bashing-om> dax: Yeah .. maybe ... I run an old ATI card .. and DKMS is installed on my system .. as said, cheap insureance .
[19:32] <daftykins> dax: next you'll be arguing about cowsay being used in there! ;)
[19:32] <dax> excuse me cowsay is an integral part of any well-running system
[19:32] <daftykins> * EriC^^ supplies the instructions with the addition of: cowsay "Brought to you by Bashing-om!"
[19:33] <EriC^^> lol :D
[19:33] <dax> one of my servers at work has "exec /usr/games/fortune | /usr/games/cowsay" in /etc/update-motd.d/99-footer
[19:33] <dax> with the bofh fortune package installed :3
[19:33] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Yall have no idea how inadaquate I often feel . When I can do, I do .
[19:34] <daftykins> Bashing-om: oh i hope i didn't appear rude there, i just wanted to bring a comedy angle to justified commands :D
[19:34] <daftykins> *justified vs. unjustified
[19:35] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Oh no .. Took it as a compliment .. just making sure that "compliment" was not over-rated .
[19:35] <daftykins> ah :D
[19:36] <Bashing-om> chores, back on a bit .
[19:36] <daftykins> yip supermarket run for me, back soon \o
[19:38] <EriC^^> bye
[19:46] <Bashing-om> OK; doggies all taken care of for the naunce.