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chesedomorning all04:32
inetprogood morning chesedo 04:55
inetproyou are early 04:55
inetprooh and hi to everyone else as well 04:55
Kilosmorning inetpro superfly chesedo thatgraemeguy and other lurkers05:12
Kilosoh theblazehen too05:12
chesedoinetpro: you mean late :P05:23
chesedooh hello oom Kilos05:32
chesedohows head today?05:33
Kilosmuch better ty05:33
chesedoyw, great to hear...05:34
Kilosty05:34
Kilosall  depends what i have to do today05:34
Kilosphysical work hammers it05:35
chesedooh, i thought it was the often mentioned visa stuff giving you one :P05:35
Kiloshows things by you lad05:35
Kilosthat as well ja05:36
chesedoheat giving you the headaches?05:36
Kilosnono i love te hed05:36
Kilosheat05:36
chesedogreat, just have to work hard for upcoming assignments...05:36
Kilosgetting cold this morning05:36
* chesedo felt it for the last few mornings05:37
Kilosany temp under 20 c is cold for me05:37
Kilosim a durban beach bum at heart05:38
Kiloshmm...06:10
dlPhreakGood morning.06:22
WolfeyesMorning everyone06:25
dlPhreakWolfeyes, Kilos06:27
Kiloshi Wolfeyes  dlPhreak 06:29
Wolfeyeshey dlPhreak Kilos06:29
dlPhreakHowz yawl doin?06:30
dlPhreakTGIF06:31
WolfeyesDoing okay. Working hard and smart. Just tackling project for project, and you dlPhreak?06:32
dlPhreakI'm good just a bit overworked.06:35
WolfeyesI know that feeling dlPhreak, but also very glad I have work. Many others do not.06:53
dlPhreakEspecially now06:56
dlPhreakLuckily there's nothing strong coffee and a bash script can't fix.06:58
Wolfeyeslol07:03
WolfeyesCan anyone tell me if one can use ssh from a windows setup to a ubuntu server?07:04
dlPhreakbitvise ssh is good on windows.07:04
dlPhreakputty is crap07:04
Wolfeyesah ty dlPhreak07:05
dlPhreakyw Wolfeyes 07:09
Wolfeyeshey thatgraemeguy08:40
Wolfeyeshey iqbal08:41
dlPhreakWolfeyes: are you and Kilos related?08:52
WolfeyesFather and son dlPhreak08:52
dlPhreakNo shit! That's cool.08:52
WolfeyesWhat gave it away lol08:52
dlPhreakWell actually I've been looking through old meeting logs but the fact that you greet people lol08:53
Wolfeyesha ha ha08:55
dlPhreakMy dad also uses linux but I would never be able to get him to use IRC chat.08:55
WolfeyesHe beat manners into me :-P08:55
Kilosit worked08:56
dlPhreakTrust XD08:57
WolfeyesThe guys here although very busy give the best support I know of so far. And they helped increase my dad and my knowledge to where it is today. 08:57
WolfeyesI work most of the time on windows systems and would love to get my programs running on ubuntu, I would move completely away from windows.08:58
dlPhreakI wish games would work on wine without effort because that's the only reason I still have windows. My work is all on linux.08:59
dlPhreakI actually managed to run witcher 3 on wine after like a week of tweaking.09:00
chesedodon't mention that word - it causes nightmares09:00
chesedo:P09:00
dlPhreakwine or the other word?09:01
dlPhreakcuz wine causes me more nightmares than texas chainsaw massacre.09:01
chesedolol, the other09:01
Kilosya crashed my system twice so now only teamviewer uses it09:02
* chesedo had the horror experience of waiting 10+min for his brother's Windows to start so that he chould print something on Tuesday09:02
Kiloslol09:03
chesedoit was all those start up programs that was the worst09:03
dlPhreakhaha lol but actually linux people are very comfortable with windoze, it's windows people that fear linux.09:04
chesedotrue, but everytime i have to work on Win i remember why i love linux so much09:05
chesedoanyone else here that's has worked so much on linux that you are forgeting how to do some stuff on Win?09:06
dlPhreakI know the feels, when I do anything on windows, I still need linux in a VM to do anything.09:07
* chesedo finds it embarrising when a friend asks him to help with something and he then looks like a newbie09:07
dlPhreakHahaha so true.09:08
MaNII find it liberating, I've finally managed to shake all the phone calls asking for help09:32
MaNIas I can now legitimately say "Windows 10? Sorry I haven't really used that much so not sure if I can help"09:32
dlPhreakWhat's the response to that, MaNI ?09:37
MaNIpeople mostly seem to be fine with that09:46
MaNII mean you don't really want help from someone who hasn't even used something...09:46
chesedoMaNI: lucky you10:09
magespawngood afternoon10:20
Kiloshi magespawn 10:21
magespawnhi Kilos 10:26
magespawndid Wolfeyes do anything more last night?10:29
chesedohi magespawn, do not think so10:38
magespawnhi chesedo10:47
magespawncool beans, i would like to see how it turns out10:50
chesedoHe was here earlier... guess he'll be back soon11:02
chesedoelse we can ask Kilos11:03
* chesedo also curious11:03
Kiloshehe he is still busy doing something, i dunno what or maybe he is doing something else now even12:06
Kilosim afk most of the time, letting sheep graze up to but not into herbs12:07
iqbalhi Wolfeyes12:36
magespawnbrb13:15
magespawnhay13:25
magespawnhey13:25
Kiloswb magespawn 13:29
magespawnchat later home time14:13
CryterionHi everyone14:16
LangjanHi Kilos hoe gaan dit?15:37
Kilosdag se oom jan15:37
Kilosgoed dankie en self15:37
Langjanook goed dankie15:38
Langjanwat is nuus?15:38
Kilosdaai clearance ding moet 14 werks dae wees wat maandag op is15:38
Kilosek het gehoop om dit vandag te kry15:38
Kilossug15:38
LangjanHou duim vas en vertrou dat dit nie sal wees soos die 30 dae vir die visa nie...15:39
Langjanai!15:39
Kilosmaar soos murphy se, as jy kan sukkel, sal jy15:39
LangjanWel ons hoop Maandag bring goeie nuus15:40
Kilosek hoop ook nie hulle gaan ook tyd mors nie15:40
Kilosdanki ons bid en hoop al maande15:40
Langjanja, darem 'n bietjie goeie nuus hier15:41
Kilosvertel15:41
Langjanmy vriend Chris is baie beindruk met Ubuntu en het nog 'n ou wat wil oorskakel15:42
Kilosmooi15:42
Langjansal hom hopelik volg week sien, hy wou more kom maar ek moet in Pietersburg gaan balle rol15:42
Kilosdan moet jy hulle kry om ons ubuntu-za te join15:43
Kiloshahaha15:43
Kilosjulle toppies15:43
Langjansal so maak, chris is mos reeds daar15:43
Langjanja wel Chris is jou ouderdom 15:43
Langjankan ons nie die Guinness haal nie? 15:44
Langjanmet Linda turning 89 op linux en xchat 15:44
Kilossjoe15:45
Langjan'n toppie het hier op warmbad by spar ingegaan, toe hy by sy kar kom is die bande gesny, toe hy nog wonder wat om te doen word hy aangeval en beroof 15:46
Langjanin die parkeerarea15:47
Kilosai!15:47
Langjanja en dit op die platteland, wees versigtig as jy alleen is daar in die stad, oz is beter15:47
LangjanOK gaan jou verlaat en sien of ek nie iets kan breek nie, wou net hoor oor jou visum 15:48
Kilosok dan Langjan dankie vir die kuier15:50
Kilospas julle op15:51
LangjanDankie Kilos , jy ook15:51
Langjanlekker naweek15:51
Kilosdankie15:51
Kilosjy ook danki15:51
Kilose15:51
Wolfeyeseish17:48
WolfeyesEvening all.17:48
Kiloswhat eish17:50
Wolfeyesit work's lol17:50
WolfeyesI battled 4 hours today to try get back on17:50
Kiloswow17:51
Kilosand now it works17:51
Kiloskeep records17:51
Wolfeyesit seems that way 17:51
WolfeyesI try to17:51
Kilosand make a backup of home17:51
WolfeyesThat is rsync isn't it?18:02
Kilosyes18:03
Kilossudo rsync -av /home/ /path to storage or backup18:04
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:16
magespawngood evening18:52
magespawnchat later18:57
Wolfeyeshttp://bin.snyman.info/mmm5zbme19:13
WolfeyesNow why would that be all of a sudden?19:14
WolfeyesBtw: usig another computer to connect to here.19:14
Wolfeyesusing*19:14
CryterionWolfeyes, magespawn went offline19:19
Cryterion<magespawn> chat later19:20
Cryterion<-- magespawn has quit (Quit: leaving)19:20
CryterionThink you looking for him19:20
Cryterionmaaz tell magespawn <Wolfeyes> http://bin.snyman.info/mmm5zbme19:22
Cryterion Now why would that be all of a sudden?19:22
Cryterion Btw: usig another computer to connect to here.19:22
Cryterion using*19:22
MaazCryterion: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode19:22
Cryterionmaaz is coffe on19:26
Cryterionmaaz is coffee on19:28
CryterionMaaz are you there19:28
MaazCryterion: Sorry...19:28
CryterionMaaz coffee19:28
MaazCryterion: coffee is liquid code19:28
CryterionMaaz is coffee on19:29
Cryterionhmmm19:29
CryterionMaaz: Beer19:29
MaazCryterion look in the fridge my friend19:29
CryterionMaaz: Is Coffee On19:29
MaazCryterion: Huh?19:29
CryterionMaaz: is coffee on19:29
MaazCryterion: Sorry...19:29
* Cryterion Still can't get it right, grrrr19:30
CryterionMaaz: Coffee19:30
MaazCryterion: coffee is liquid code19:30
CryterionMaaz coffee on19:31
* Maaz puts the kettle on19:31
Cryterionahh19:31
MaazCoffee's ready for Cryterion!19:35
Wolfeyesha ha ha ha @ Maaz19:35
Wolfeyeshey Cryterion19:35
Wolfeyeswell it seems that the p3p1 network port just stopped working19:36
WolfeyesI "--forced" it now and it seems to work19:36
Wolfeyestime to reboot19:36
Wolfeyesit didn't show at all in the cat run/ifstate, on the "p5p1" and the "lo"19:38
Wolfeyesonly* not on19:38
XsmYay19:41
Cryterionok, it's beyond me atm, I'd rather not interfere with what magespawn has done with you, so good luck19:41
Cryterionahh, so it worked19:41
Xsmyeah for some reason it just stopped working19:41
Xsmand when I tried to stop it and get it running again, it said not configured19:42
Cryterionsometimes happens, more often on windows than linux though19:42
Xsmyeah that was what I thought19:42
XsmAlthough...19:42
XsmI am sure these are Gigabyte mb and cards and they love windows, nt linux as I recall from one of my past mb's.19:43
XsmThen again my knowledge is limited and could very well be proven wrong :-P19:43
superflyMaaz: tell Kilos good morning19:44
Maazsuperfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode19:44
CryterionNot sure on that, with the my test pc's i have to play around with it's only nvidea(graphics) that I have to install their closed source drivers on ubuntu19:45
Xsmheya superfly19:46
Xsmlol @ good morning19:46
Cryterionheya superfly19:46
superflyhi Cryterion, Xsm19:46
XsmHow you been superfly? Been a while.19:47
XsmHow far did you get with zublevel zero?19:47
Cryterionmaaz doesn't know how to fetch beer, so you guys have to fetch your own19:47
Xsmlol19:47
superflyXsm: actually busy, to be honest.19:47
Xsmyeah I know that feeling very well.19:48
superflywork, open source projects, debconf16 and kids keeping me on my toes19:48
CryterionI noticed a changed in his software, he doesn't respond to that19:48
Xsmwell that's awesome.19:48
CryterionYeah kids do, how old are they they superfly19:49
Xsmbrb19:52
superflyCryterion: 6, 3 and 119:52
Cryterionstill young, enjoy them now, that's the important part19:53
Cryterionmine are young teenagers19:53
CryterionI have tablets to fix19:54
XsmAwesomeness19:55
XsmNow back to ssh.19:55
CryterionXsm, all working 100% now?19:56
XsmSO it seems Cryterion, ty.19:56
Cryterionthen type Maaz: tell magespane <yourmessage>19:56
Cryterionmagespawn*19:56
Cryterionhe'll get it when he logs in again, I forwarded your problem to him via maaz19:57
XsmMaaz: tell magespawn Still working :-)19:58
MaazXsm: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode19:58
XsmGood bot.19:58
Cryterionyep19:58
XsmMaybe one day he will fetch you a beer :-P19:58
Cryterionhe doesn't get beers though, only coffee19:58
Xsmgreat I can ping the other pc19:59
Cryterioncan't even get tea out of him19:59
XsmLol.20:01
XsmGreat so the firewall was stopping the packets.20:02
Xsmprogram the firewall-20:02
XsmIn Arno's iptables firewall, would "NAT_STATIC_IP" be the ip address of all the computers in the internal network? As they will want to access certain websites on the internet?20:29
Xsmeg: 192.168.1.5/3020:29
Xsmor is it just the ip which the masquerading will asign for people externally to see?20:30
Xsmeg: 192.168.1.1920:30
Cryterionmaaz: tell Xsm that the 192.x.x.x and 10.x.x.x range of ip's are not internet, but local ip allocatable addresses21:28
MaazCryterion: Got it, I'll tell xsm on freenode21:28
Cryterion<Cryterion> maaz: tell Xsm that the 192.x.x.x and 10.x.x.x range of ip's are not internet, but local ip allocatable addresses21:29
Wolfeyesty Cryterion21:30
CryterionNo prob21:31
Cryterionthose ranges are internal only, for example 127.0.0.021:31
Wolfeyesokay but what is masquerading is for internal use21:32
Wolfeyesokay so masquerading is for internal use, sorry stupid touchpad21:32
Cryterionnot sure by what meant by masquerading21:33
Cryterionmy understanding of masquerading by definition is presenting yourself to everyone around, I.E. letting all devices seen know that you're there21:35
Wolfeyesaccording to what I read, it masks all the internal computers to look as though (to the external computers)  one ip address is being used.21:35
Cryterionprobably on the local network21:35
CryterionI.E. acting if it's dhcp21:37
Wolfeyesand target the server, which has that ip adress instead of the other computers.21:37
Wolfeyesstill trying to figure it out really21:37
Cryterionlearning myself, don't worry, you'll get there21:37
Wolfeyes:-P21:38
WolfeyesI think going through all these learning curves we don't realise how much we actually learn.21:38
Cryterionexample, IP address could say be 196.x.x.x (Internet IP - Router is allocated it by isp), but internally it's ip is 192.168.1.2, all comps on local net have a 192.168.1.x ip21:40
Wolfeyestrue21:40
Cryterionyou put a router together on a pc, and you have more control over the traffic in/out from local to inet now21:41
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