[06:27] <Kilos> Maaz hi
[06:27] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[06:29] <Kilos> morning all
[07:39] <MaNI> does anyone know of a linux program like filelight, except one that is smart enough *not* to follow symlinks across drive boundaries or to include mount points int he count
[07:41] <MaNI> oh hey I have an ancient version of filelight, maybe I must just upgrade :)
[08:32] <chesedo> hello all weekend dwellers
[08:32] <chesedo> including MaNI and Kilos
[08:35] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[08:56] <magespawn> good afternoon
[08:56] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, Cryterion on freenode told me "tell magespawn <Wolfeyes> http://bin.snyman.info/mmm5zbme" 13 hours, 33 minutes and 42 seconds ago
[08:56] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, xsm on freenode told me "tell magespawn Still working :-)" 12 hours, 57 minutes and 57 seconds ago
[08:56] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[08:58] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[08:59] <chesedo> afternoon magespawn
[09:00] <magespawn> hi chesedo 
[09:02] <magespawn> Kilos: has Wolfeyes done anything more on that server?
[09:02] <Kilos> i dont know magespawn i crashed early and havent heard from him today
[09:04] <Kilos> we lucky we part of such a friendly loco you know
[09:04] <chesedo> magespawn: he was last stuck with the masquerading
[09:05] <Kilos> bangladesh is a tiny loco wit 21 peeps applying to join , some even 2 years ago and none get approved
[09:09] <chesedo> Kilos: wow they sound like a string group
[09:10] <chesedo> s/string/strong/
[09:10] <chesedo> is that to join membership?
[09:10] <Kilos> yeah bad and no support either for a guy applying for ubuntu membership
[09:10] <Kilos> thats just to join the loco
[09:11] <Kilos> so one guy tried on his own but with no guidance didnt have all his facts ready
[09:11] <Kilos> shame man
[09:12] <Kilos> i think maybe the existing members think they kinda elitist
[09:13] <chesedo> thats bad... me thinks anyway
[09:13] <chesedo> how did the loco itself get reapproved?
[09:13] <Kilos> yes totally against ubuntu aims
[09:13] <Kilos> oh  i havent checked if they are
[09:14] <chesedo> so will this guy have any luck sorting things out?
[09:15] <Kilos> we will help him rock the boat
[09:15] <Kilos> imo those should be kicked inna but and even replaced if necessary
[09:15] <chesedo> great to hear... they should watch out the storm with Kilos is coming :P
[09:15] <Kilos> lol
[09:16] <chesedo> are you on the loco or membership coucil?
[09:16] <Kilos> membership
[09:16] <Kilos> but know some council members
[09:17] <chesedo> oh, wondered how the "we" (loco council) will help him...
[09:17] <Kilos> to keep me quiet they will need to fire me
[09:17] <Kilos> we the membership board will help him
[09:18] <chesedo> um, ok
[09:18] <Kilos> shame man
[09:19] <Kilos> poor guy even wants to teach peeps there about installing and using ubuntu and no loco support
[09:19] <Kilos> ai!
[09:21] <chesedo> wow, that loco is missing on some serious motivation
[09:30] <Kilos> that loco isnt verified even
[09:32] <Kilos> wow very few are
[09:32] <Kilos> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[09:32] <chesedo> lol
[10:00] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[10:07] <Cryterion> hi
[10:26] <magespawn> and AGAIN
[10:46] <MaNI> okay so updated filelight still doesn't work as it should - so back to original question, anyone know something like filelight that correctly avoids crossing filesystem boundaries?
[11:08] <chesedo> MaNI: what exactly do you it to do (other than not crossing filesystems)?
[11:09]  * chesedo knows of `du`
[11:13] <chesedo> baobab seems to not cross filesystems
[11:29] <MaNI> chesedo, the key feature is being able to visually see which files/directories are responsible for taking up most the space
[11:30] <MaNI> sometimes a run away log file or whatever will take up the whole of / (or some stale data directory or whatever) and being able to easily see what is helpful
[11:30] <MaNI> I'll try baobab and see
[11:35] <MaNI> okay baobab seems to be behave correctly thanks
[11:37] <chesedo> yw
[12:06] <magespawn> MaNI: does it have to visual?
[12:07] <MaNI> ideally yes, sifting through pages of du -hs output isn't very fun :p
[12:08] <MaNI> baobab seems okay, filelight makes nicer charts but no good if it doesn't actually work properly
[12:17] <chesedo> if filelight uses `du` internally, then maybe one can contribute the feature to it...
[12:20] <MaNI> baobab works, so its fine :p
[12:23] <chesedo> lol, ok
[13:21] <thatgraemeguy> oh hi
[13:26] <chesedo> hi thatgraemeguy
[13:27] <thatgraemeguy> g'day :-)
[13:27] <chesedo> almost, bit hot
[13:28] <Kilos> ohi thatgraemeguy 
[13:28] <thatgraemeguy> hi Kilos how goes?
[13:28] <thatgraemeguy> yeah, pretty humid here today :-o
[13:28] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[13:28] <thatgraemeguy> lekker thanks :)
[13:47] <magespawn> home time, chat later
[17:06] <Wolfeyes> sjoe
[17:06] <Wolfeyes> back eventually
[17:06] <Wolfeyes> hello everyone
[17:06] <Kilos> hi boy
[17:07] <Wolfeyes> router decided to stop working this morning, took a trip to see another client, came back changed the router from (router allocate ip address to computers) to ( not allocate anything)
[17:07] <Wolfeyes> hey dad
[17:08] <Wolfeyes> on spare comuter now, server doesn't want to connect again, p3p1 down again
[17:09] <Wolfeyes> goes back to my notes
[17:09] <Kilos> ai!
[17:24] <Wolfeyes> hey zipper
[17:39] <zipper> Wolfeyes: Hey :)
[17:59] <Wolfeyes> sighs
[17:59] <Kilos> what now
[17:59] <Wolfeyes> Night everyone - try again tomorrow
[17:59] <Wolfeyes> can't get it to connect again
[18:00] <Kilos> night boy, sleep tight
[18:01] <chesedo> Wolfeyes: uhm
[18:01] <chesedo> allocation sound like dchp mode was on...
[18:01] <chesedo> so take it that your external is off
[18:02] <chesedo> but clients can still reach the server
[18:02] <chesedo> *? if true then that might help you
[18:02]  * chesedo has to go
[18:07] <Kilos> im gonna have an early night as well
[18:07] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:18] <magespawn> good evning
[18:18] <magespawn> evening too
[19:42] <chesedo> lol magespawn, you just missed Wolfeyes there
[19:42] <chesedo> Hi Rynomster, welcome to the ubuntu-za channel
[19:43] <Rynomster> thanks chesedo. haven't been on in long time :o
[19:43] <Rynomster> always on slack these days
[19:44] <chesedo> oh ok, i'm also too new to know very old ones
[22:45] <squish102> can anyone help me figure out what happened to my raid array? it is in RO mode
[22:46] <squish102> it is a raid 0 (stripped?) or is that raid 1
[22:46] <tumbleweed> squish102: cat /proc/mdstat
[22:47] <squish102> output of dmesg|grep md0
[22:47] <squish102> http://bin.snyman.info/mmmvhysh
[22:48] <tumbleweed> squish102: the grep is probably removing useful context
[22:48] <tumbleweed> but I'd bet an underlying device is failing writes
[22:48] <squish102> http://bin.snyman.info/mmm8eu6a
[22:49] <tumbleweed> ok, the raid device is happy
[22:49] <tumbleweed> it's the filesystem that has gone read-only
[22:49] <tumbleweed> could be entirely a filesystem problem
[22:50] <squish102> checking dmesg without grep, lots of mention of errors with sdc
[22:51] <tumbleweed> smartctl -a /dev/sdc
[22:51] <squish102> although i just installed smart monitoring tools and it looks like all drives passed
[22:52] <squish102> http://bin.snyman.info/mmmw42je
[22:54] <tumbleweed> those Current_Pending_Sector and Offline_Uncorrectable counts point to a drive with problems
[22:54] <tumbleweed> offline sectors have been removed from use, because they failed
[22:55] <tumbleweed> pending sectors are un-readable and will be taken offline, when written to
[22:55] <squish102> hmm that sounds bad
[22:55] <tumbleweed> I replace a drive if either of those goes non-zero, and especially if it's a big number
[22:57] <squish102> my sdd looks bad too
[22:57] <squish102> http://bin.snyman.info/mmmcu5mc
[22:57] <tumbleweed> those aren't necessarily a problem
[22:57] <squish102> ^^ that one has lots of messages
[22:57] <squish102> oh ok
[22:58] <squish102> ok, take c drive out, bang it around and stick it in freezer and then good to go :)
[22:58] <tumbleweed> get a new drive, dd-rescue sdc onto it, put it back in this raid-array, and fsck it
[22:59] <tumbleweed> also, don't use RAID-0 for data you care about :P
[23:00] <squish102> it is my backup server for my raid 5 array. cheap man backup, i wake it up, rsync to it, and shut it down every night
[23:00] <tumbleweed> ah, well, then, thorw away the drive, make a new array :)
[23:01] <squish102> yes, I don't have anymore 2tb drives laying around, so I will have to probably throw some 1tb drives in. need to get to 6tb of storage
[23:01] <tumbleweed> if you overwrite the entire drive with 0s (to get all those pending sectors offline), the drive may recover
[23:02] <tumbleweed> or it could continue to grow pending sectors
[23:02] <squish102> hmmm, ok I can try google that and figure out what you mean
[23:02] <tumbleweed> I'd try that if there were 2 or 3. But with hundreds, I don't have high hope
[23:03] <squish102> thanks for the help
[23:05] <squish102> about to destroy array.... 
[23:06] <tumbleweed> np. good luck :)
[23:12] <squish102> screwed up my hadoop cluster and now my home backup machine
[23:12] <squish102> think i should go out drinking