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Lorne2Bashing-om : You mean I should go back into windows and defrag from there?   (but I'll be defraging the C: ...the system drive its using, won't I?)00:00
Jordan_ULorne2: What problem are you actually having?00:01
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Lorne2Jordan-U just trying to install ubuntu onto a win 7 laptop...make it dual boot...and I guess the LiveUSB install doesn't seem to "see" that's what I'm trying to do...00:02
Lorne2Jordan-U : I confess...it may simply be that I don't understand partitioning very well.00:03
seraphinaBashing-om, Just to answer your earlier question they probably have LVM or something setup on their root drive which will cause the ramdisk kernel module to be loaded so that /dev/ram0 can be used for the initrd by default it makes 16 devices though.00:03
seraphinaSame happens on mine since I have my / partition on an encrypted LVM00:04
EliterWhat's Ubuntu's grub boot loader? Would it give me the option of booting to a different Operating System, upon start?00:04
Jordan_ULorne2: Could you please pastebin screenshots of the Installer that demonstrate the problem?00:06
seraphinaBashing-om, At least I believe so anyway remember reading that /dev/ram0 is used for the initrd00:07
Bashing-omseraphina: As it is a Windows ram allocation, will have no effect in also installing ubuntu as dual boot ?00:07
Gallomimiaram is completely erased before every boot00:08
Gallomimiaa ram allocation won't exist when booted into other OS00:08
Bashing-omGallomimia: K. yeah .. So that begs the question of why fdisk sees these ram devices ?00:09
seraphinaRAM is erased if it's not refreshed for more than a few milli's is the nature of DRAM it's the running kernel that handles RAM allocation00:09
Lorne2Jordan_U:  Sure thing.  Thanks for your patience...will be back :)00:09
GallomimiaEliter: yes that's what it does00:09
GallomimiaBashing-om: you mean /dev/ramX ?00:09
Gallomimiai do believe they're always there00:09
seraphinaWell mostly, the BIOS will allocate a small amount for things like PCI-E MSI and such then hand the loading OS kernel a memory map telling it what it can use00:09
Bashing-omseraphina: Makes sense,, then when bios hands that map off to ubuntu .. the ubuntu OS will remap ?00:11
seraphinaBashing-om, No the BIOS basically retains the address ranges it needs for low level hardware support etc00:12
styvpn87irc.freshon.tv00:12
Bashing-omseraphina: Pardon my ignorance, but how will these ram devices effect ubuntu ?00:13
seraphinaBashing-om, Usually like a few MB or so more in some cases if you have like an onboard GPU that shares main memory with the CPU00:13
seraphinaBashing-om, Ubuntu is creating those because it needs to load the initrd in order to prepare the main / partition for mounting.00:14
seraphinaBashing-om, It needs to decompress the initrd into one of them00:14
seraphinaThere are 16 because it seems that ubuntu must insmod the ramdisk module without any parameters so 16 is the default.00:15
Bashing-omseraphina: I rarely see this condition, and only in respect to Windows . I surely do not want to miss-direct anyone in installing ubuntu .00:16
zhxk82hello, how to turn off port forwarding that issued my ssh -fN ?00:16
daftykinswhat do you mean "that issued..." ?00:16
zhxk82ssh -fN XXXXXXX00:17
zhxk82makes port forwad, right, now  want to the portforwarding off00:17
seraphinaBashing-om, Think it's because things like LVM and disk encryption are non default install options, the initrd only needs to be used if the / partition isn't mountable directly by the kernel without the support of any additional tools00:17
daftykinsah i see, you probably have to re-establish the connection00:18
causativemy computer is excruciatingly slow because a couple programs are swapping... but since I just closed some programs, there's actually plenty of memory left as I can see on my menu bar widget!  So why are they swapping?00:18
Bashing-omseraphina: OK, then I am in for an additional learning experience here ... as away we go .00:19
daftykinszhxk82: sounds like -f backgrounds ssh, so you'll need to "ps -ef | grep ssh" then kill the PD00:19
daftykins*PID00:19
causativeoh... well the problem has resolved itself finally00:19
causativeweird that it would be swapping instead of just claiming more memory00:20
zhxk82daftykins, how to turn off port forwarding, back to the status of before 'ssh -fN xxx'?00:20
Lorne2Jordan_U : OK...when I watch Youtube videos of the install process, there's a screen that asks " Install Ubuntu alongside Windows" - I never see that screen00:21
daftykinszhxk82: as i just said00:21
seraphinaBashing-om, I think that there are other possible causes for why an initrd is needed than LVM or Luks but those are at least two anyways00:21
zhxk82thank you, could you make a one line command to automactical do the job?00:21
reisioautomactical ftw00:22
boxmeinhay! asking again: my lock-screen style somehow reset from "cool unity login prompt" to "boring borderless gtk window" how fix00:22
boxmeinsomeone mentioned it could do with the lightdm theme00:22
Lorne2how do I pastebin a pic?00:22
zhxk82!paste00:22
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:22
daftykinsLorne2: imgur.com00:22
Jordan_ULorne2: Please pastebin the output of "sudo os-prober" and "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS".00:22
reisiozhxk82: you can parse ps' output, but pgrep -x might be simpler (kill $(pgrep -x foo))00:22
Bashing-omseraphina: Thanks, will keep under advisement .. Never ending curve of learning .00:22
daftykinshopefully the image is not of text, or i will have to slap your wrists ;)00:23
Jordan_ULorne2: One possibility is that your computer is UEFI capable but Windows is installed for BIOS, *and* the Ubuntu installer is being booted via UEFI. You can't reasonably dual boot with one OS booting via BIOS and the other via UEFI.00:24
akkuhello!00:25
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akkuanyone ever installed openvas on 14.04?00:26
Lorne2Jordan_U:  http://pastebin.com/39Kd6GAN00:26
Jordan_ULorne2: OK, so os-prober does detect Windows. Please post a screenshot of the installer.00:28
Jordan_U!screenshot | Lorne200:28
ubottuLorne2: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here.00:28
daftykinsakku: best to try with detail e.g. "i tried... this happened... but i expected..."00:28
Lorne2Jordan_U : http://imgur.com/jaHoW7K00:29
akkuI tried to install openvas but many NVTs do not work. I used the python gems to download arachni/wapiti & co but it complains that it can't find the script/binary00:30
Eliterhow easy is it to get rid of GRUB boot loader?00:30
reisioEliter: and replace it with what?00:30
akkuthere are a bunch of openvas for ubuntu 14.04 available but they all fail00:31
akkututorials i mean :-)00:31
seraphinaEliter, You can't simply just get rid of a bootloader assuming you want the system to be capable of booting again after would need to install a replacement one00:31
Eliterseraphina: If I don't like the GRUB boot loader, is there a good easy way to get back to the way things were? The way I originally had it setup is with Windows 10, and I think it installed its own boot loader by default.00:33
seraphinaEliter, Well the NTLOADER doesn't support dual boot as far as I know00:33
Eliterseraphina: I think I'll like GRUB, since it's friendly, and not a dictator.00:34
Jordan_UEliter: Yes. For BIOS you can use "install-mbr" to install an MS style MBR, and for UEFI you can use efibootmgr to remove the Ubuntu boot entry (Windows' boot entry will still be there).00:34
EliterSo, when I remove the Ubuntu boot entry, then run Windows 10 OS, everything will return?00:35
seraphinaEliter, What do you mean everything will return what is missing?00:36
Eliterif I install the GRUB boot loader.00:36
Jordan_ULorne2: Do you know why your Windows installation has three partitions, 2 large and one small? Normally for windows installations pre-7 you have only one large partition, and 7,8, and 10 you have one small partition for the bootloader and then a large partition.00:38
EliterOnce I get GRUB, can I get back to .NET's crud?00:38
prbchow can I install an USB network adapter in ubuntu? I plugged, installed the driver, and what's next?00:38
akkureinstall the windows boot loader00:38
akkugoogle00:39
seraphinaJordan_U, It could be a laptop or prebuilt PC they usually have 3, the third being the manufacturer recovery partition00:39
Jordan_Useraphina: 140 GiB is far too large for a recovery partition.00:39
Lorne2Jordan_U : no idea... but it WAS a work computer...and my employer is a very well known IT company...so I'm sure they knew why...00:39
seraphinaAh yah good point there00:39
Jordan_U!bootinfo | Lorne200:39
ubottuLorne2: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Please run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then !pastebin the RESULTS.txt for us to use to help diagnose your problem.00:39
daftykinsprbc: what did you do to 'install the driver' ? is the module loaded? has a network interface appeared? ( "ifconfig -a"00:40
Jordan_ULorne2: The problem is that normally there is a clear solution for setting up a dual boot: Resize the single large partition (keeping the small ones as they are) and with the room you've freed create partitions for Ubuntu.00:41
Lorne2Jordan_U : sounds like a logical thing... so why doesn't it notice one partition is MUCH larger than the others...and has 70% free space?00:41
Jordan_ULorne2: In your case though it's not clear if sda2 should be resized or if sda3 should be.00:42
Eliteris there a command for installing grub boot loader, in Ubuntu Server?00:42
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daftykinsgrub-install00:42
Jordan_UEliter: grub will be installed automatically when you install Ubuntu.00:42
Lorne2Jordan_U : OK.  awesome...sounds like you understand the problem...easy solution?   (hoping...)00:42
EliterJordan_U: I have the option here, in the installer, to not install it.00:43
prbcdaftykins: I downloaded, unzip, make/make install00:43
Jordan_UEliter: Well don't select that option, because not installing grub would be silly.00:43
prbcdaynaskully: if I type iwconfig it shows a new one (ra0)00:43
daftykinshmm that is not a method i would have chosen00:43
jushuractually if windows is installed to a uefi (it should be) it has three partitions, boot, efi, and system. (the order may be different)00:44
prbcdaynaskully: it shows in ifconfig too00:44
EliterJordan_U: ok, I'll get grub. But changing grub settings seem a little difficult.00:44
daftykinsprbc: oh so it's a USB _wireless_ adapter.00:44
prbcdaynaskully: yes00:44
prbcdaynaskully: ops00:44
daftykinsprbc: make + model? chipset? ubuntu version? also stop highlighting the wrong guy00:44
prbcdaftykins: yes00:44
seraphinaLorne2, It's not so much a case of it not noticing as it is an ambiguous situation so it leaves it for you to resolve the ambiguity yourself00:44
Jordan_UEliter: If you're sure that sda2, the 350 GiB partition, is the one you want to resize then yes it should be pretty simple. You just use GParted to resize sda2 to whatever size you want it to be then run Ubuntu's installer again, and it should offer to install to the free space. (Don't create another partition yourself)00:45
Jordan_UEliter: Of course, as always, you should have backups of any important data.00:45
prbcdaftykins: Ubuntu 14.04.1, Tp-Link AC600 Archer T2UH00:45
akkuhey guys is there anyone with intel 8950 cryptocards experience? i'd be interested in aes128 throughput...00:45
seraphinaLorne2, You could pick the "something else" option and resize the partition with free space yourself to make room then create a new partition to install linux the installer will let you do all that.00:45
daftykinsprbc: can you confirm '14.04.1' with "cat /etc/issue" ? if it really is, that's out of date00:46
Lorne2seraphina: I'm kinda frightened of that option...not gonna lie...00:46
daftykinsakku: better question for #linux - but still very niche.00:46
prbcdaftykins: In this file it shows 14.04.400:46
prbcdaftykins: in uname -v it shoes 14.04.100:47
daftykins"this file" ?00:47
EliterJordan_U: wait, backups? Backups of what?00:47
Jordan_UEliter: Do you need help resizing sda2 via GParted?00:47
prbcdaftykins: /etc/issue00:47
daftykinsok good00:47
EliterJordan_U: I may need help with that, and understanding what it is you just said.00:47
daftykinsprbc: so if you got ra0 added, you should be able to use network manager in the GUI to handle connections00:49
Jordan_UEliter: If your hard drive died right now, because random hardware failure is common, how sad would you be about the data loss? No matter what you're doing, anything that you care about should exist in more than one place.00:49
seraphinaLorne2, Well that's a good thing honestly partitioning stuff is potentially destructive to data thus why it's good to backup important data before doing it.  Someone here could walk you though the process though if you need help with it.00:50
Lorne2seraphina : good call.  I'll try working with Jordan_U for the moment...and if we get to that, I'll hold my breath and do it.  Currently the whole disk is cloned onto an external disk....BUT it won't boot from the external disk00:51
EliterJordan_U: I'm not quite sure I need to worry about that. I was thinking of getting yet another hard drive and have a RAID setup, but, eh.....00:51
Gallomimiasomeone just told me they can't download a ubuntu iso from the webserver. 403 errors. guys your webservers are borked!00:51
Jordan_UEliter: RAID is *not* a backup, and does not replace backups.00:52
EliterGallomimia: tell em' to try proxying into it.00:52
prbcdaftykins: I don't know what I should do. It says network manager is installed and running. When I click in the top right I just can see the wired connection. There are no wireless network showing.00:52
daftykinsprbc: does it have the wireless tickbox when you right click it?00:52
Jordan_UEliter: But if your data isn't very important then feel free to not back it up.00:53
Lorne2Jordan_U : http://pastebin.com/mJG3Q3rP00:53
prbcdaftykins: No. Just a tickbox for Enable Networking00:53
EliterJordan_U: how would you suggest backing it up?00:53
seraphinaEliter, What Jordan_U says makes sense RAID is about availability not recoverability it's meant to lower the risk of downtime mostly.00:53
daftykinsprbc: hmm, share your "/etc/network/interfaces" and "ifconfig -a" via http://paste.ubuntu.com00:53
Eliterseraphina: I hear there are multiple RAID setups. Ones for redundancy, ones for writing little on one and a little on the other for speed.00:54
daftykinsyes, there are many RAID modes.00:55
Jordan_UEliter: Redundancy doesn't mean that it's a replacement for backups.00:55
daftykins0 is the latter - "striping", most others are mirroring or a combination thereof00:55
seraphinaEliter, True, but the redundancy is more intended to help keep servers up given the inevitability of drive failure it is not designed for disaster recovery which is what backups are for.00:55
prbcdaftykins: paste.ubuntu.com/15287440/00:56
prbcdaftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15287440/00:56
daftykinsprbc: riiiight so this host is a vbox VM. why are you installing a wireless USB adapter in a VM?00:56
Jordan_UEliter: If the files are small, then email them to yourself, use a service like google drive, etc. If they are large then buy another drive ASAP and copy the files there. If only some important files are small enough to backup right now, back those up now and back up the larger ones when you buy another hard drive.00:57
Eliterseraphina: oh, you're talking about "Everything was fine on 3-4-16 17:56", and if I need to rollback.00:57
seraphinaEliter, Anything really important you should still have burned onto some DVD-R's or on an external drive or a network server, ideally one that isn't in the same physical location00:57
prbcdaftykins: I want to use aircrack with it00:57
daftykinsprbc: ok well your driver isn't working and i will not be helping with that any further.00:57
Jordan_UEliter: Also, that boot info script output tells me that there is more going on with sda2 and sda3, neither of them have filesystems recognisable by blkid.00:58
daftykins(MAC shows as all 0's, not a good sign)00:58
seraphinaEliter, That's one example sure another is your PSU blew up and fried the circitry on both drives00:58
prbcdaftykins: So, it's just the driver?00:58
Eliterseraphina: I am on the last question on the installation of Ubuntu, so I don't really think there's a way back. I'm disconnecting the drive with all my progress with Windows 10.00:58
R13oseI am getting this error: "libc-dev-bin : Depends: libc6 (< 2.16) but 2.17-0ubuntu4" is to be installed when I try to use apt-get in the terminal.  How do I use the correct version?00:59
EliterThe drive that I've installed on, I wouldn't mind the data being lost.00:59
Jordan_UEliter: Sorry, it looks like I got my discussion with you and Lorne2 crossed up.00:59
seraphinaEliter, Yeah you are right you have already been through the partitioning step already, you should install the GRUB loader or you will not be able to access your ubuntu install which would defeat the purpose in that case.00:59
Lorne2Jordan_U : so was that last one for me?!01:00
seraphinaLarge files I could give an option for a service with unlimited storage assuming you have good enough internet to make it useful though am not sure if I should share that in channel since it is a commercial service01:00
Jordan_ULorne2: That output tells me that there is something more going on with sda2 and sda2 as they aren't even showing up as having filesystems that blkid recognises.01:01
Jordan_ULorne2: I wonder if your Windows installation is using bitlocker encryption or similar.01:02
Lorne2Jordan_U : so...um...anything we can do about that?  Are we back to manually resizing partitions....?01:02
seraphinaR13ose, What are you trying to do, sounds like you are trying to install something compiled against a later version of libc6 than the rest of your system you added a third party repo or PPA or something?01:03
daftykinsdid any of you solve that RAM disk situation yet?01:03
Jordan_ULorne2: If blkid doesn't even see a valid filesystem on sda2 then GParted almost certainly won't either, and thus won't be able to resize the filesystem (which needs to be done before you change the size of the partition).01:03
seraphinadaftykins, It was just the ramdisks ubuntu creates when it has / mounted on LVM/Luks01:04
R13oseseraphina: yes, I tried to install a newer version of filezilla but that broke the libc601:04
daftykinsseraphina: ah, funky encryption01:04
seraphinaR13ose, Yeah it will do things like that especially when you are messing with libc which is pretty much about one of the most core libraries you can get pretty much everything depends on it nearly.01:05
R13oseHow do I fix this issue?01:05
Jordan_ULorne2: If your employer did setup "full disk encryption" (which is a misnomer, as only some partitions are encrypted even if they do comprise most of the data on the disk) then that would explain your current problems, and you would need to figure out what type of encryption they're using and will almost certainly need to resize them from within Windows.01:06
daftykinsR13ose: i've often heard it said that when libc6 gets ruined, it's game over01:06
Jordan_ULorne2: If your employer didn't setup any encryption, then I don't know what's going on.01:06
seraphinaR13ose, You would need to get a copy of every single package on the system that was built against that version of libc, either that or remove the incompatible package you install01:06
Jordan_ULorne2: Anyway, I need to go for now.01:06
Lorne2Jordan_U  yeah its possible... ok - I'll try to fix it from within windows.  thanks guys...01:07
EliterActually, I'm much more satisfied with grub loader. Microsoft should consider give people options, instead of forcing their own OS.01:07
seraphinaPurging the package that is demanding the new version of libc would hopefully resolve the issue01:07
R13oseThe program wasn't really installed just used export PATH which means this is gone after I logged out if I am right.01:07
seraphinaR13ose, So the error came up when you first tried to install then?01:08
R13oseseraphina: nope the error came up when I tried to use apt-get after I installed the new version of libc601:09
seraphinaR13ose, Then you have a real problem there, you could try removing the PPA or whatever you added and try to reinstall libc to see if it will downgrade it back, problem is that most of the binaries on your system will be broken at the moment so that is why that makes these problems so hard to fix.01:11
R13oseseraphina: really?  There is no way to fix this at all?01:12
seraphinaR13ose, As I say you can attempt to remove the PPA or repo you added to get the new package then purge the offending package and try to reinstall libc from the ubuntu repo I can't tell you for sure if it will succeed though, not sure if some of the tools will be broken preventing even that.01:14
LorneMcFee Endpoint Encryption!  Found the little bugger....01:14
naccR13ose: and use ppa-purge for that, most likely01:14
seraphinaR13ose, There is a reason why even hardcore distros like Gentoo have a whole huge entire guide on the topic of upgrading libc, do it wrong and it will destroy your system01:15
R13oseThis is the command I used: "sudo dpkg -i libc6_2.17-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb" to make the upgrade happen.01:15
EliterAnyone know how I can run my Ubuntu server (fully installed on my other hard drive), from Virtual Box on Windows? It has the OS and everything else already on the hard drive.01:16
naccR13ose: never ever do that with libc.01:16
R13osesorry01:16
naccR13ose: you should never ever manually attempt to change the version of libc on your system01:16
naccR13ose: it will fundamentally break your system, if you actually do it01:17
R13oseI know that now.  All I am trying to do is fix this01:17
seraphinanacc, Be glad it's a very very bad idea lol01:17
naccR13ose: you did something as root that broke your system01:17
naccR13ose: there aren't a lot of good ways to fix it, most likely01:17
naccseraphina: yep :)01:17
R13oseI don't want to reinstall because of one bad thing I did.  There must be a way to downgrade.01:18
naccR13ose: after purging the ppa, does `apt-get -f install` indicate it can fix things?01:18
seraphinanacc, She didn't use a PPA she used dpkg -i directly :|01:19
R13oseI didn't use a ppa for filezilla either01:19
naccseraphina: oooh, i see01:19
naccR13ose: um, ok, what does `apt-get -f install` say?01:19
naccR13ose: and remove filezilla if it's still installed (apt-get remove filezilla), to break the dep01:20
seraphinaWill definitely need to do that, or "apt-get purge filezilla" maybe01:21
stacks88do i have it right that we shouldnt set passwords on root, and instead just have a passwod on a sudo user ?01:21
R13osepastebin: http://pastebin.com/Ei42WLn2 and some of the same errors appear when I try to remove or purge filezilla.01:21
naccR13ose: what about `apt-get -f remove filezilla` ?01:22
R13oseAs I said filezilla is not installed anymore as with PATH, if you restart or log out this goes away.01:23
propmanstacks88,  that's default on ubuntu01:24
naccbtw, what version of ubuntu is this? no supported version of ubuntu is on 2.17 ... are you on 12.04?01:24
naccR13ose: --^01:24
R13osenacc: yes01:24
naccR13ose: you just said that trying to remove or purge filezilla leads to messages ... but then you said "filezilla is not isnstalled anymore"01:24
naccwhich is it?01:24
seraphinaR13ose, No more accurately with that libc installed if you log out or reboot your system doesn't boot again period01:24
prometI'm on 14.04 and trying to work with a dev environment that requires libjpeg-6.2, 14.04 current default is libjpeg-8, I think I will need to roll back. Does anyone have an idea if this will mess with my install?01:25
naccpromet: do it in a VM or container?01:25
naccpromet: don't chagne your base system for a dev environment01:25
prometnacc, you a a gentleman and a scholar01:25
R13osenacc: http://pastebin.com/rHFQcSC601:25
prometI never even thought of that01:26
R13oseseraphina: not sure what you meant.01:26
prometlol01:26
naccpromet: np ... it's the easiest way to do just about evertying nowadays :)01:26
flybackany italians here who can help someone on undernet connect here so I can get them some linux help01:26
naccR13ose: ok, what was teh command that gave you the earlier pastebin?01:26
prometnacc, I am beginning to see the light...01:26
propman!it01:26
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)01:26
prometnacc, I can tear the vm apart without too much consequence01:27
naccpromet: esp. with the latest (what will bein 16.04) of lxc/lxd ... realy easy to start up any OS that linuxcontainers.org has01:27
naccpromet: exactly01:27
R13osenacc: sudo apt-get -f install01:27
naccpromet: and leave your base system stable01:27
promet<*processes revelation*>01:27
seraphinaR13ose, The apt-get -f purge filezilla01:27
seraphinaR13ose, That should try to force the removal01:28
R13oseseraphina: look at the newest pastebin I linked01:28
naccR13ose: try `apt-get -f install libc6=2.15-0ubuntu10.13`01:28
R13osenacc: still saying "The following packages have unmet dependencies"01:30
naccR13ose: please just pastebin the output01:30
naccall of it01:30
R13osenacc: http://pastebin.com/Kz2rKCYQ01:30
naccR13ose: try `apt-get -f install libc6=2.15-0ubuntu10.13 libc6:i386=2.15-0ubuntu10.13`01:31
seraphinanacc, Heh this conversation is reminding me of my gentoo days lol01:32
naccseraphina: i suppose it's nice that ubuntu only reminds you of that when something is broken :)01:32
R13osenacc: output: http://pastebin.com/iXSqQ70q01:32
seraphinanacc, Heh well I guess mostly gentoo did the same when a fault between keyboard and chair causes a circular dependency that can't be solved lol01:34
naccR13ose: so i'm not sure how much further i can help tonight, but you can try remove libc:i386, which might remove a bucnh of packages, but just note which ones you actually care about; then do the -f install with just libc6, then reinstall libc6:i386 and then reinstall those packages01:35
naccR13ose: as the 32-bit libc should be less system critical ... although in 12.04 maybe not, I can't remember01:36
R13oseMy computer is 64 bit01:36
naccthat's fine, doesn't mean all the software is01:36
R13osenacc: how do I remove libc:i386?01:36
naccR13ose: try `apt-get remove libc:i386`01:37
naccbut be cautious01:37
naccat this point, you could be fundamentally breaking your system ...01:37
naccso read the output, understand it, etc01:37
R13osenacc: E: Unable to locate package libc:i38601:37
naccsorry libc6:i38601:38
R13osenacc: output: http://pastebin.com/nQMsYbzX01:39
seraphinanacc, I think the problem is that it's already fundamentally broken seems like if it's recoverable the only way is for it to get worse before it gets better though from the looks of things.01:39
naccR13ose: yeah01:39
naccerr, seraphina: yeah01:39
naccR13ose: yeah, i'm not sure at this point, you try passing -f to remove, but it might not get much further01:40
naccR13ose: at this point, you need to probably be using dpkg, and i need to go make dinner :)01:40
R13osenacc: thanks01:40
R13osenacc: I did remove -f and this came out with same output01:41
naccR13ose: i would seriously consider installing ... you're on a pretty old release anyways :)01:42
nacc*reinstalling01:42
seraphinaR13ose, You might need to note the names of all those packages it mentions and dpkg -r them all01:42
jimes#d3d901:42
jimesoops, haha01:42
fifty-sevenCHi, Does anyone else use Caja to verify a bug?01:43
R13oseseraphina: will that break anything?01:43
seraphinaR13ose, Well it wont break things any worse than they already are, you are already in the position that most every C binary on the system that isn't already loaded into RAM is not executable.01:44
R13oseseraphina: oh01:45
fifty-sevenCsounds like someone umount -a01:45
seraphinaR13ose, Thus why I was saying not to try logging out or rebooting since then the system would be unbootable01:45
R13oseseraphina: okay01:45
seraphinaR13ose, But it looks like it's mostly skype being removed along with it's dependency tree because skype is propritary and only released in 32bit so it needs all 32bit libs01:47
R13oseokay01:47
seraphinaR13ose, If even dpkg -r wont work though I am not sure there is a way around it would probably be better off downloading 15.10 and reinstalling in that case01:50
bbaqarnewly moved to 15.10 .. getting a Error: Too many open files while starting libvirt-bin01:50
R13oseseraphina: I am trying the dpkg -r to see if that works01:50
bbaqarnewly moved to 15.10 .. getting a Error: Too many open files while starting libvirt-bin01:51
seraphinaR13ose, Ok, you might have better luck if you try removing the front ends like skype first then all the libraries and the libc6 at the end01:51
daftykinsbbaqar: don't repeat so quick01:51
bbaqardraftkins: sorry. impatience01:52
seraphinabbaqar, Sounds like you will need to use ulimit -n to increase the limit01:52
bbaqarseraphina: set to 99999901:53
bbaqarFollowed all the steps here: https://easyengine.io/tutorials/linux/increase-open-files-limit/01:53
seraphinabbaqar, Are you trying to start a service when this happens? If so you might need to check the startup script check that it isn't setting a limit01:55
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roraclehey there, i have an interesting question and cannot seem to find an answer:  Alienware ships their laptops with a SSD where Windows is installed.  It has various other partitions, as well.  I have enough room for another active partition on the hard disk, so i made such a partition.  However, during the install of Ubuntu (or variant/flavor) it will not detect my hard drive (it's 1 terabyte) so I cannot choose it for install, thus I 01:57
bbaqarseraphina: was trying systemclt start libvirt-bin01:57
seraphinabbaqar, Ok then try setting a ulimit -n in the initscript for libvirt, by default think they are like 4096 for non login shells like services01:58
fifty-sevenCroracle, if windows is set up with dynamic drives they will not be detectable01:59
seraphina/etc/security/limits as I recall applies to login shells01:59
roraclefifty-sevenC: i have no idea what that means01:59
fifty-sevenCroracle, it could also be a EUFI or GPT proble02:00
fifty-sevenCroracle, In windows go to control panel and then Computer Administration.02:01
fifty-sevenCFrom there you can see if it is set as a Basic Disk or Dynamic Disk02:01
roraclefifty-sevenC: administrative tools? (i'm in Win10)02:01
fifty-sevenCYes02:02
roraclethere are other icons, which one would let me know?  none of them really seem to point to such a thing02:02
fifty-sevenCI can't remember the names. One of them should mention disks02:03
roraclethey all say "basic"02:03
roraclei'm under "disk management"02:03
fifty-sevenCOk. So it isn't a dynamic disk problem02:03
roraclelayout, simple.  type, basic02:03
roraclehmm, okay02:03
bbaqarSeraphina: let me try02:03
fifty-sevenCroracle, Can you delete the partition you made and see if Ubuntu detects the free space?02:04
seraphinabbaqar, Btw I would try like 16384 or 65536 or something there is no reason any service should be opening much more than that unless something is seriously wrong.02:04
roracleyeah i can do that.  i might not have time tonight, was just in here to get a few ideas really.  but i'll do that tomorrow: delete ext4 partition, restart, install option, see if it shows?02:05
fifty-sevenCYes02:05
bbaqarseraphina: is it possible that the limit i am setting isnt taking effect02:05
seraphinabbaqar, It wont take effect for starting a service no since it's not a login shell, services are different02:06
roracleokay will do that tomorrow then.  thanks for the insight!02:07
bbaqarseraphina: so best thing to do would be to set the limit in the libvirt init script?02:08
seraphinabbaqar, Yes, just adding like ulimit -n 16384 or ulimit -n 65536 or similar right before the start-stop-service line should do the trick02:08
leo_86hello02:09
seraphinabbaqar, It's because services don't log in and thus they don't go through PAM for authentication which would be where the /etc/security/limits file would come into things if I'm not mistaken02:09
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monty_hallHi02:31
monty_hallwas wondering02:31
monty_hallI've never installed ubuntu server02:31
monty_hallbut I'm under the impression that it will not install X02:31
monty_hallis this correct?02:31
monty_hallhere's what I need to do02:31
monty_hallI need to install an nvidia driver - not neuavo02:31
monty_hallthe proprietary version02:31
monty_hallapparently, there's an nvidia tool that will allow me to the display to nothing02:32
monty_halland then create a virtual frame buffer02:32
monty_hallI need this for headless rendering.02:32
monty_hallthat's basically where I'm going02:32
monty_hallis installing the driver as simple as apt-get install?02:32
ouroumov monty_hall, you aim to do cuda-based stuff?02:33
monty_hallthat too02:33
monty_hallI need to render synthetic images via opengl02:33
monty_hallthen I need to use cuda apps like "caffe"02:33
monty_hallit has to run on our supercomputer02:33
monty_hallso, I'm going to get a small system set up to demonstrate how to render headless.02:34
monty_hallif that's possible...02:34
monty_hallsince it's in a super computer there will literraly be no display02:34
lapyoeverything is possible with GNU/Linux02:35
ouroumovI assume you've checked this out already monty_hall? http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-installation-guide-linux/02:35
ouroumovThat's what I used to set up dual titan-X on a rack server for my lab.02:36
monty_hallw/ cuda can I also render opengl?02:36
monty_halllemme restate02:36
monty_hallclearly they're two differnt things02:37
monty_hallbut I wondering if it will also allow me to create an opengl context too02:37
prometnacc, how should I be thinking about storage in lxc, i.e. when I setup a remote lxd, where and at what size does it initialize its "virtual disk"? If you know what I mean..02:37
prometnacc, pardon, I mean to say "built-in", not "remote" lxd02:38
prometi.e. lxc launch ubuntu-daily:16.04 my-ubuntu-dev02:38
ouroumovmonty_hall, quoting from the link: "If installing the driver, the installer will also ask if the openGL libraries should be installed."02:38
* monty_hall hugs ouroumov02:38
monty_hall\o/02:38
monty_hallwhat linux did you use?02:39
monty_hallubuntu?02:39
monty_hallif so, the server version (i'd assume so)02:39
monty_hall?02:39
ouroumovYes, 14.04. I had tried first with debian 8 but it was a PITA (pardon my French)02:39
monty_hallthat's exactly what I'm looking for02:39
monty_hallthe sever version?02:39
ouroumovYes02:39
monty_hallcool02:40
monty_hallI hope this works for me02:40
monty_hallI tried Xvfb and it doesn't like GLX02:40
prometwhich, I guess, really, is ""built-in remote"02:40
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naccpromet: sorry, not around right now really -- i'd ask in #lxc (iirc)02:43
prometnacc, no worries, will do. Thanks!02:50
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R13oseHow do I remove packages and all the dependencies without having to remove each dependencies one at a time?  I am using sudo dpkg --purge libxft-dev02:54
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dillon_is there any software like the windows version usb boot tool?03:25
uruk7hello03:27
exedore6dillon_: What do you mean? Like to write a bootable usb?03:27
dillon_yeah, make a usb bootable for any OS03:28
uruk7in ubuntu when in file in first line #!/bin/awk then not found  -> how execute awk file program in ubuntu system?03:28
xanguadillon_: for any...like what?03:29
exedore6uruk7, awk lives in /usr/bin03:29
exedore6So start your script with #!/usr/bin/awk and it'll find it.03:30
dillon_exedore6 anything from linux variants to windows variants03:30
uruk7not work with #!/usr/bin/awk -f03:31
exedore6Any OS is tricky. It sounds like you're looking for something like Yumi?03:31
exedore6dillon_, Take a look at this - http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/03:32
exedore6I've only used the windows version but there are links for debs.03:32
exedore6It downloads and unpacks the iso for different bootable systems, and configures a boot loader to select from multiple.03:33
dillon_oh ok, thanks greatly appricated03:33
uruk7exedore6 in /usr/bin/ only link awk -> /etc/alternatives/awk*03:34
uruk7output error with #!/usr/bin/awk03:35
exedore6What does 'which awk' return?03:35
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exedore6My system has /etc/alternatives/awk linked to /usr/bin/gawk03:36
jimexedore6, not sure, but gawk is probably a reasonable awk03:38
exedore6jim, I agree. uruk7's trying to find his.03:39
uruk7i have a file named aaa.awk in first line i put #!/usr/bin/awk -f and then the program lines ; when i put aaa.awk output don't find order03:39
exedore6Is aaa.awk executable?03:42
uruk7exedore in aaa.awk -> #!/usr/bin/awk;BEGIN { print "hello" }; -> i wnat when i put in shell aaa.awk output hello, is it possible?03:44
krycek#!/usr/bin/awk -f03:51
krycekBEGIN { print "hello" };03:51
krycekuruk7: ↑03:51
exedore6Beat me to it.03:51
jimkrycek, what's the -f? and why is awk complaining about .?03:52
exedore6jim, the -f is for read from file (instead of the command line)03:53
exedore6I don't know why read from file counts in a script.03:53
exedore6As far as I can see, it complains about . when it's missing the -f argument.03:54
exedore6I can't see where the . is coming from though.03:54
jimthe -f made it say hello03:54
uruk7krycek -> not work the output is : pro.awk: no se encontro la orden03:55
exedore6uruk7, pro.awk needs to be executable.03:56
exedore6chmod +x pro.awk03:56
uruk7same error03:57
petr_ahoj vsichni! Muj prvni den s Xubuntu / po letech s windows :)  Poradite mi nekdo prosim? Nemuzu zprovoznit sim modem huawei3131. Procet jsem na netu, co se dalo, nechal jsem si poradit i od cloveka, co s ubuntu pracuje nekolik let, a nic. Prosim ale mejte se mnou trpelivost, jsem fakt zacatecnik03:58
uruk7-rwxrwxr-x 1 uruk uruk   77 mar  5 04:54 pro.awk*03:59
exedore6./pro.awk03:59
mobilehello03:59
krycek!cs | petr_03:59
ubottupetr_: chanserv.py is a ChanServ helper script for !XChat | https://github.com/seveas/chanserv.py03:59
uruk7yes exedore04:00
lotuspsychjekrycek: xchat is not longer maintained, hexchat is alternative04:00
uruk7work with ./pro.awk04:01
krycek!en | petr_04:01
ubottupetr_: Certain Ubuntu IRC channels are English only.  For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList04:01
uruk7its possible work with pro.awk?04:01
petr_Problem s tim modemem je, ze pri prvnim zapojeni funguje jako CD storage, kde se ukazujou instalacky, ale jen pro windows. zkusil jsem modeswitch, ale asi to neumim. pri dalsim zapojeni se sice neobjevuji instalacky, ale stejne mi to nefunguje04:02
petr_oh, I see. I will loook for czech forum04:03
petr_hi everybody! My first day with Xubuntu - just migrated from windows! :-) But, I am lost. My first task: to make my sim-card modem huawei3131 work. Can someone help me? Please, patiently, I am a real linux novice.04:09
petr_The problem is, that this modem has a dual regime. First, it functions as a CD disc and shows installation programs, but just for windows. If they would be installed, the next time the modem is inserted into USB, it would connect to internet. I tried to use usb_modeswitch, but i guess I did not really know how - it does not work. Thanks for help04:09
R13oseMy whole system is broken04:22
lotuspsychjeR13ose: start from the beginning04:22
lotuspsychje!details | R13ose04:22
ubottuR13ose: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)04:22
madh69i have tried to force my xorg.conf to get 1920 resolution but am not succesful i must be doing someting wrong04:23
R13oseWell, I removed a huge number of packages using "sudo dpkg -r --force-depends" and now I want to get everything back but unsure how.04:23
madh69currrently getting 1140x1024 to 800x60004:23
lotuspsychjemadh69: your on the right graphics driver?04:24
madh69yes04:24
lotuspsychjemadh69: wich chipset and driver please?04:25
lotuspsychjeR13ose: start from the beginning...you forced packages why exactly?04:25
madh69display UNCLAIMED04:26
madh69       description: VGA compatible controller04:26
madh69       product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Control04:26
lotuspsychjemadh69: so not the right driver04:26
R13osebecause I am on 12.04 and I upgrade libc6 and that broke my whole system.  I didn't know that would do this but now I am going down the rabbit hole.04:26
lotuspsychjeR13ose: you upgraded libc6 manually instead of sudo apt-get upgrade?04:27
R13oselotuspsychje: yes as I don't want to upgrade at the moment.04:27
lotuspsychjemadh69: go check your additional drivers section04:27
lotuspsychjeR13ose: thats a very bad idea mate, always keep up to date04:27
madh69how can i view the driver i did a   lshw -c video04:28
R13oselotuspsychje: I know but now I need to fix this so I can move on.04:28
madh69notihng in there i checked04:28
lotuspsychjeR13ose: how did you upgrade that lib? with a ppa?04:28
madh69my gpu is 2nd gen chipset running of cpu it seems to be correct04:28
madh69i5-240004:28
lotuspsychjemadh69: as your card is unclaimed, driver= will not list neither04:28
madh69ohh i see is that why my driver is in vesa mode?04:29
lotuspsychjemadh69: sudo lshw -C video would be right command to see04:29
R13oselotuspsychje: with sudo dpkg -i libc6_2.17-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb and I know that is bad news now.04:29
lotuspsychje!paste | madh6904:29
ubottumadh69: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:29
lotuspsychje!recovery | R13ose try this mate04:30
ubottuR13ose try this mate: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode04:30
lotuspsychjeR13ose: recoverymode==>fix broken packages04:30
R13oselotuspsychje: how do I fix them?04:30
madh69http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289143/04:31
lotuspsychjeR13ose: thats an option from recoverymode, read the url please04:31
lotuspsychjemadh69: your on ubuntu server?04:32
madh69i have xrdp04:33
madh69using gnome04:33
lotuspsychjemadh69: wich ubuntu version are you on?04:33
R13oselotuspsychje: thanks I will try that.04:33
Nicholas1my internet stops after 5 mins04:33
madh6914.04 LTS04:33
Nicholas1why so?04:33
lotuspsychje!details | Nicholas104:33
ubottuNicholas1: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)04:33
Nicholas1i am using ubuntu 14.0404:34
jeffreylevesqueI'm getting "/var/lib/dpkg/info/install-info.postinst: 32: /var/lib/dpkg/info/install-info.postinst: update-info-dir: not found"04:34
Nicholas1when i boot the pc. the internet works fine for like 5-10 mins04:34
Nicholas1after than it completely stops04:34
Nicholas1nothing works04:34
Nicholas1that*04:34
Nicholas1though it shows as connected04:35
lotuspsychjeNicholas1: tail -f /var/log/syslog and pastebin us the error whats happening04:35
jeffreylevesquei get that error when i do `apt-get build-dep scikit-learn -y`04:35
Nicholas1it started happening just two days before04:35
lotuspsychjejeffreylevesque: start from the beginning, ubuntu version, you tryed what04:35
Nicholas1also its running fine on windows 704:35
jeffreylevesqueubuntu 14.0404:35
solidus-1iverhey all, i'm having a hell of a time getting value out of docker compose04:35
solidus-1iveri have 2 containers i need linked, only way to link them is via up04:35
lotuspsychjesolidus-1iver: there is a #docker channel if you like04:36
lotuspsychjemadh69: check your additional drivers section please04:36
solidus-1iveroh man, i'm sorry ,i dont get hohw i ended up here04:36
madh69I have there is nothing there04:36
lotuspsychjemadh69: lsb_release -a please?04:37
lotuspsychjejeffreylevesque: tell us what your trying to do?04:38
jeffreylevesqueI'm trying to install all dependencies for the apt-get package `scikit-learn`04:39
madh69http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289175/04:39
lotuspsychjejeffreylevesque: added a ppa?04:40
madh69i tried but it was down, i dunno04:40
lotuspsychjemadh69: tried what?04:40
jeffreylevesquelotuspsychje: i didn't install any ppa's04:41
Nicholas1sorry i got disconnected04:41
Nicholas1lotuspsychje it says syslog not found04:41
Nicholas1there is no such file04:41
Nicholas1what to do04:41
madh69with the intel driver manager but it wouldnt work the site is  half down04:42
jeffreylevesquethis is what I did - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/blob/c6e04c7cee7170d9e3bac9d5fdf4c0db694129bb/puppet/manifests/install_sklearn.pp#L1704:42
lotuspsychje!info scikit-learn04:42
ubottuPackage scikit-learn does not exist in wily04:42
Nicholas1please help04:42
jeffreylevesquethis is my traceback - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/issues/2349#issuecomment-19225589504:42
lotuspsychjeNicholas1: did you enter the right command? tail -f /var/log/syslog04:43
Nicholas1has my linux network drivers corrupted lotuspsychje?04:43
lotuspsychjejeffreylevesque: ask the maintainer of the git site04:43
lotuspsychjeNicholas1: we need to findout whats happening first04:44
Nicholas1i even tried on a live distro and still no luck04:44
Nicholas1it still gets disconnected after 5 mins04:44
Nicholas1please help04:44
lotuspsychjeNicholas1: please dont ask for 'help' every minute04:44
Nicholas1yes lotuspsychje04:44
Nicholas1sorry04:45
Nicholas1but this is  really making my pc unusable04:45
lotuspsychjeNicholas1: pastebin us the tail04:45
madh69multitasker lotuspsychje is "yoda voice"04:46
madh69;)04:46
Nicholas1it says "no such file or directory "04:46
Nicholas1:-(04:47
lotuspsychjeNicholas1: pastebin me your command and the error please04:47
lotuspsychjeNicholas1: are you up to date to 14.04.4 and what network chipset do you have? wifi? cable?04:48
R13oseBack.  I am stuck in grub command line.  What do I do?04:48
Nicholas1lotuspsychje yes i am upto date . i using a 3g modem04:49
Nicholas1vodafone one04:49
lotuspsychjeR13ose: what do you mean stuck04:49
Nicholas1it started hapenning suddenly . just two before it  was just fine04:49
Nicholas1i am really confused04:49
R13oseI can't get pass grub04:49
lotuspsychjeNicholas1: pastebin me the command + error please04:49
lotuspsychjeR13ose: did you choose ubuntu(recoverymode) from grub?04:50
Nicholas1lotuspsychje when i types messages in place of 'syslog' it worked . its showing some info now04:51
mattkimhello everyone~04:51
Nicholas1typed*04:51
lotuspsychjeNicholas1: you typed what?04:52
R13oseYes and says: Loading Linux 3.13.0-80-generic .... Error: file not found. Loading inital ramdisk ... error: you need to load kernel first.04:52
lotuspsychjeR13ose: that doesnt sound too good mate...04:52
madh69lotuspsychje what do i do now?04:53
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic precise04:53
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0.99.115 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 33 kB04:53
madh69im having the hardest time finding drivers for intel hd 200004:53
lotuspsychjemadh69: was this fresh install or upgrade?04:53
madh69fresh04:54
R13oseWhat do I do?04:54
lotuspsychjemadh69: did you enable cable + updates during setup?04:54
madh69yes04:54
lotuspsychjeR13ose: tried other kernels?04:55
itsgokulnotify-send doesnot send message in ubuntu 14.1004:55
itsgokulwhy04:55
lotuspsychje!eol | itsgokul04:55
ubottuitsgokul: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades04:55
R13oseHow?04:55
lotuspsychjeitsgokul: install a supported version from topic please04:55
lotuspsychjeR13ose: select another kernel from your list04:55
lotuspsychjeR13ose: from grub04:56
R13oseThere is only the one and memtest04:56
lotuspsychjemadh69: i would try a fresh reinstall 14.04.4 or 15.10, + cable+updates if that doesnt recognise your intel driver file a new bug please04:56
lotuspsychjeR13ose: fresh reinstall then04:57
lotuspsychje!bug | madh6904:58
ubottumadh69: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.04:58
madh69??04:58
lotuspsychjemadh69: check also your syslog/dmesg to see whats happening to your intel card04:58
R13oseNothing else I can do?04:59
lotuspsychjeR13ose: this is what you get when not update your system, older kernel, security holes, issues to your system...you can get into recoverymode anymore,etc05:00
lotuspsychjeR13ose: =fresh reinstall05:00
R13oseLive USB will not work?05:01
lotuspsychjeR13ose: to do what?05:01
R13osehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair05:01
madh69there is so much stuff what should i look for to search05:02
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lotuspsychjeR13ose: why dont you want to fresh install a 14.04.4?05:04
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R13oseBecause I lose everything.  If I can keep everything, then I will switch for sure.05:04
lotuspsychjeR13ose: you can save your /home at the setup of a new install05:06
lotuspsychjemadh69: anything related to your intel graphics05:06
Nicholas1what is this error option_instat_callback error 108  lotuspsychje?05:07
R13oseI will try this link I found and if doesn't work I will see if I can do anything else.05:07
madh69im not seeing anything i look somemore05:08
Nicholas1sorry i am constantly getting disconnected lotuspsychje05:08
Nicholas1i did dmesg and found this error lotuspsychje05:08
lotuspsychjeNicholas1: sounds like a huawei bug to the kernel05:11
lotuspsychje!bug | Nicholas105:11
ubottuNicholas1: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.05:11
lotuspsychjeNicholas1: file a new bug, togheter with your logs/error and explain whats happening + ubuntu version05:12
madh69im not seeing anyting related to the gpu?05:13
lotuspsychjemadh69: pastebin the whole syslog please, ill take a look05:13
madh69ok thanks, its huge keeps rashing mozilla05:21
madh69lol05:21
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madh69how can i send you the txt file? keeps crashing to much text? :)05:23
lotuspsychjemadh69: sure05:24
notbluhola :p05:33
lotuspsychje!es | notblu05:34
ubottunotblu: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:34
notbluhi?05:34
madh69hi05:35
lotuspsychjemadh69: is that desktop or server?05:36
sunitEthernet not working in xubuntu...plz help05:41
plytro_sunit: anything more descriptive than "not working"05:41
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sunitthe commands show wlan0 and lo...but not eth005:41
madh69desktop05:42
sunitlaptop05:42
lotuspsychjemadh69: but the machine is a server right?05:44
madh69i have gnome installed  i have ui?05:44
madh69i use it like a server yes05:44
lotuspsychjemadh69: well syslog doesnt show anything unusual05:45
madh69i get no errors just dont get the resolution of 1920... are you sure the hd 2000 intel drivers are not installed? it thought they came with ubuntu05:45
madh69okay thanks for looking into the logs appriciate it05:46
lotuspsychjemadh69: so im not sure why your graphics dont get recognized..maybe try the fresh reinstall05:46
plytrosunit: ip ad only shows 2 interfaces?05:46
lotuspsychjemadh69: if it doesnt recognize from a fresh, i would file a bug05:46
madh69i fixed it once, but it broke i cant get it to go again, i created xorg.conf and added entries05:46
lotuspsychjemadh69: messing with xorg isnt the way to solve this, as your driver isnt active05:47
madh69basicly your sure the drivers are not installed? or are they  not working properly?05:47
hicoleriWhy does mount say this when I try to mount a partition?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289485/05:47
lotuspsychjemadh69: we checked sudo lshw -C video earlier and showed unclaimed..05:48
alkisg_awayhicoleri: it usually means that the file system is so broken that mount cannot detect its type. What's the output of sudo fdisk -l?05:49
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madh69okay05:49
madh69this sucks... i cant find drivers online intel hd 200005:50
arooniis there a way to test to see whether or not i've encrypted my home directory on ubuntu 14.04 ?05:50
hicolerialkisg:http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289498/05:50
alkisghicoleri: you only have sda1, yet you tried to mount sda9?!05:51
alkisgAh sorry gpt05:51
alkisgWhat's the output of `sudo parted -l` ?05:51
lotuspsychjemadh69: ubuntu is suppose to load drivers automaticly, if not somethigns wrong and might need a bug05:51
madh69ok thanks05:52
hicolerialkisg:Everything was working a day ago... Anyway:http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289504/05:52
alkisghicoleri: and the output of `dmesg|tail` after you try mounting it?05:53
alkisgIt seems like your ext4 file system got corrupted05:53
alkisgmadh69: your problem is that you don't have all resolutions available?05:54
hicolerialkisg:http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289510/05:54
lotuspsychjealkisg: his card driver doesnt load, and got unclaimed card05:54
lotuspsychjealkisg: nothing to see from syslog either05:55
alkisghicoleri: where does "x-gvfs-show" come from? How are you trying to mount it?05:55
hicolerialkisg:using sudo mount -rw /dev/sda905:55
alkisghicoleri: try sudo mount /dev/sda9 /mnt05:56
alkisgThat should ignore the options present in /etc/fstab...05:56
hicolerialkisg:Okay, that worked. Should I edit /etc/fstab manually?05:57
alkisgsudo umount /mnt05:57
alkisgThe paste your fstab05:57
alkisg*then05:57
hicolerialkisg:http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289527/05:58
alkisghicoleri: that seems like you put it there manually, right?05:59
alkisgWere you following some tutorial?05:59
alkisgWhy did you put it in fstab?05:59
hicolerialkisg:nope, I did not touch it.05:59
sploozerhello I have a python script I'm trying to run on ubuntu 14.04. I'm getting a traceback (most recent call last) file "foobar" line 281 in <module> except socket.error as e: Name Error: name 'socket' is not defined.  This seems ambiguous.  Any ideas what package I may be missing?05:59
alkisghicoleri, ok, I think you should completely remove that line, you can still automount ext4 partitions from nautilus06:00
hicolerialkisg:which one?06:00
alkisgLine 16, the last one06:00
hicolerialkisg:Nothing trivial but, why did my terminal fortune cookies go away (not now, but after the problem took place. I was using the fortune cookie option in xfce4. It unchecks itself.)06:07
alkisghicoleri: I don't know what fortune cookies are06:07
alkisgI'm not using xfce06:07
hicolerialkisg:Okay then06:08
weblizarhelp me How to increase the06:16
weblizarFilesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda         47G   45G     0 100% / devtmpfs        3.9G  4.0K  3.9G   1% /dev none            799M  280K  798M   1% /run none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock none            3.9G     0  3.9G   0% /run/shm overflow        1.0M     0  1.0M   0% /tmp06:16
lotuspsychje!info bleachbit | weblizar06:17
ubottuweblizar: bleachbit (source: bleachbit): delete unnecessary files from the system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8-1 (wily), package size 271 kB, installed size 2074 kB06:17
weblizarmysql "not restarting"06:17
madh69The following packages have been kept back:      libgbm1   ??? what does this mean06:21
lotuspsychjemadh69: what are you doing06:21
madh69trying to update my packages06:22
lotuspsychjemadh69: did you add ppa's in the past06:22
madh69yeah i have but libgbm1 has to do with ubuntu i think06:25
karrothi, I'm curious about the difference between mplayer and mplayer206:25
madh69http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libs/libgbm106:25
lotuspsychje!info smplayer | karrot06:26
ubottukarrot: smplayer (source: smplayer): complete front-end for MPlayer and MPlayer2. In component universe, is optional. Version 14.9.0~ds0-1 (wily), package size 1388 kB, installed size 3702 kB06:26
karrotlotuspsychje, thank you06:27
madh69i said update but its  when i do upgrade sory06:29
lotuspsychjemadh69: i would really recommend a clean reinstall, no ppa's and see if your driver gets recognized last time im saying this now :p06:29
madh69it is a fresh install i added like 2 ppa for conky and something else06:29
madh6910day old install06:30
lotuspsychjemadh69: then file a bug for your intel card06:30
madh69alrigth06:31
lotuspsychjemadh69: and if you add external ppa's you can expect issues like now when upgrading06:31
lotuspsychje!ppa | madh6906:31
ubottumadh69: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge06:31
madh69this is a ubuntu upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:32
lotuspsychjemadh69: after you add ppa's your on your own mate, ubuntu not responsible anymore for your actions06:32
hicoleriWhy isn't the trash folder visible anymore in my file manager?06:33
lotuspsychjehicoleri: ubuntu version?06:34
madh69this is a ubuntu upgrade sudo apt-get |||| dist-upgrade ||| its a distribution upgrade from ubuntu06:34
hicolerilotuspyschje:Yes06:34
madh69is it because other dependencies havnt cought up yet?06:34
madh69and its held back?06:34
lotuspsychjemadh69: what did i just tell you?06:34
lotuspsychjemadh69: update, upgrade,dist-upgrade shouls all work like a charm on a clean system06:35
madh69hmm06:36
svm_invictvsHey, so I want to install postgresql 9.306:36
svm_invictvsbut I search on pacakges.ubuntu.org and it shows the earliest version available is 9.4, is there another source I can add to use it?06:36
svm_invictvsMaybe form an older release of ubuntu?06:36
hicolerilotuspsychje:14.04, with xfce06:36
lotuspsychje!latest | svm_invictvs06:36
ubottusvm_invictvs: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.06:36
lotuspsychjesvm_invictvs: wich ubuntu version do you have06:37
svm_invictvs15.1006:37
lotuspsychjehicoleri: maybe the #xubuntu guys might know?06:37
svm_invictvslotuspsychje What's #xubuntu?06:37
lotuspsychjesvm_invictvs: that wasnt for you mate06:37
svm_invictvsoh, for x1106:38
svm_invictvsderp06:38
svm_invictvslotuspsychje I don't want the latest...I think you misunderstood06:38
alkisgsvm_invictvs: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=postgresql => 14.04 does have 9.306:38
lotuspsychje!info postgresql | svm_invictvs06:38
ubottusvm_invictvs: postgresql (source: postgresql-common (169git1)): object-relational SQL database (supported version). In component main, is optional. Version 9.4+169git1 (wily), package size 4 kB, installed size 74 kB06:38
alkisgsvm_invictvs: maybe you should install 14.04 instead of 15.10, and it's an LTS release as well...06:39
svm_invictvseah06:39
svm_invictvsyeah06:39
svm_invictvsI just spent the day setting up this box, uf06:39
svm_invictvslotuspsychje ...can I just add the trusty sources?06:40
lotuspsychjesvm_invictvs: no06:40
svm_invictvshm06:40
lotuspsychjesvm_invictvs: not recommended to mix versions06:40
lotuspsychjesvm_invictvs: follow the advise of alkisg06:40
hicolerilotuspsychje: I installed ubuntu minimal and then installed xfce. Actually, all my mountable partitions weren't visible anymore because of something, along with my terminal fortune cookies and access to my /media/$user/ directory was denied for some reason.(I fixed it a while ago)06:40
svm_invictvslotuspsychje I jsut set up two 15.10 boxes...looks like I'm 0 for 2 on them heh06:41
lotuspsychjehicoleri: minimal is bit expert, any reason you chosen that?06:41
lotuspsychjesvm_invictvs: dont mix package versions :p06:41
hicolerilotuspsychje:I wanted to install everything by myself.06:41
lotuspsychjehicoleri: you could install xubuntu a,d strip it the way you need?06:42
svm_invictvslotuspsychje I know.  I'm saying I just gotta set up two new boxes again, heh06:43
hicolerilotuspsychje: I would but my laptop wouldn't boot to my usb or cd anymore. The boot selection meny only shows "ubuntu"06:43
hicoleri*ubuntu06:43
lotuspsychjehicoleri: try F12 to boot stuff? or plop boot manager?06:44
hicolerilotuspsychje:Thats what i'm talking about06:44
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madh69The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgbm1 : Depends: libgl1-mesa-dri (= 11.0.4~git20151026+11.0.ec14e6f8-0ubuntu0ricotz~trusty) , how can i fix this ?06:45
alkisgmadh69: there's no such version in http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgl1-mesa-dri06:46
alkisgSome of your PPAs is broken06:47
alkisgSo to fix it, remove it06:47
alkisgYou can't fix other people's broken PPAs by magic, you need to remove them if they're broken06:47
svm_invictvsActually installing one box isn't so bad06:47
svm_invictvswell06:48
svm_invictvstwo06:48
svm_invictvsI dind't do anythign to set up th other06:48
svm_invictvsso06:48
svm_invictvs...yay...06:48
krycekhicoleri: Reg. your trash issue, is 'gvfs' installed?06:48
svm_invictvsAnd, I irritated the bot.  Whoops.06:49
hicolerikrycek:yep06:51
svm_invictvslotuspsychje Than's for the tip.06:51
lotuspsychjesvm_invictvs: np06:51
svm_invictvsThe installer asks me if I want to unmount?  I should nuke my old partitions completely not try to keep what's there right?06:56
lotuspsychje!partition | svm_invictvs06:57
ubottusvm_invictvs: For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes l - For partitioning programs see !GParted, or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap06:57
svm_invictvsnah06:57
svm_invictvsJust nuking and starting over06:57
svm_invictvsI realized how much of a hare brained idea it was after I asked.06:58
lotuspsychjesvm_invictvs: nothing better then a clean fresh install06:58
svm_invictvsYeah, most of the time I "wasted" with 15.10 was fiddling with stuff that I know how to setup like that06:59
reduxhi07:11
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Thorax2015Hi all. I'm installing Ubuntu 15.10 from the minimal iso. Im wondering how best to go about installing cinnamon DE07:21
Thorax2015I just chose "Manual Package Selection" in the Software Selection page.07:23
easyOnMeis there a way to capture replies from freenode chat when I log out07:23
easyOnMeand be able to get them when I log in07:23
Thorax2015No, you need to use a cloud irc, or something like Quassel07:24
baizoneasyOnMe: check log or use a bnc07:24
easyOnMewhat is a bnc and how to use it07:24
easyOnMedarn ofc now closing07:24
easyOnMethat is what I meant07:24
easyOnMewhen I log out now07:24
easyOnMeonce I reach home I can see your replies when I log in07:25
baizoneasyOnMe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_%28software%2907:25
baizoneasyOnMe: yes then bnc07:25
Thorax2015https://www.irccloud.com/07:26
EriC^^or get a shell and run screen + irssi07:26
baizoneasyOnMe: most use http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC07:26
baizoneasyOnMe: or what EriC^^ is suggesting07:26
EriC^^#bshellz #xshellz or /msg alis list bnc07:26
baizonThorax2015: yeah ill use a 3rd party for my private chats :D07:27
EriC^^there's a ton of channels who offer free bnc07:27
boris2015Which one is good?07:27
Thorax2015Quassel should be able to do what you need. Last time I used it07:27
boris2015Hey look we have similar name what a coincidence07:28
baizonyou guys discover irc in 2015? =)07:28
baizondiscovered*07:29
Thorax2015ffs, Ubuntu installed the bootloader onto the usb...07:31
boris2015Lol that's good07:32
boris2015Extra security07:32
Thorax2015hahaha07:32
Thorax2015god damn it07:32
Thorax2015I didnt select the usb for anything during partitioning07:32
Thorax2015Is there anyway to fix it or should I just reinstall using a CD?07:33
EriC^^Thorax2015: you can chroot and reinstall grub07:33
Thorax2015Thats some linux logic right there btw...07:33
Thorax2015How does that work EriC^^ ?07:33
EriC^^or actually just boot it using the usb, and just grub-install to the disk07:33
boris2015Theres some manual steps that you need to do07:33
EriC^^try booting it from the usb07:33
Thorax2015I'm currently logged in07:33
Thorax2015Just a command line07:34
EriC^^in the actual install?07:34
EriC^^type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999907:34
Thorax2015Ive put the USB back in, and not booted from the usb, but Ubuntu minimal has loaded, not the installer07:34
Thorax2015On the command line it asked for a login and password, which was my username I entered during the install07:35
EriC^^ok07:35
EriC^^type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi07:35
MrokiiHello. Is there a way to somehow show the number of the currently used workspace on the screen? Something like a see-through number that changes whenever one switches to another workspace.07:36
Thorax2015Mrokii:  Depends on your DE07:36
Thorax2015EriC^^:  Is that a L after the first - ?07:36
EriC^^yeah07:36
Thorax2015cheers thankyou07:36
Thorax2015EriC^^:  I take it i need sudo? XD07:37
EriC^^nope07:37
EriC^^did it say not found?07:37
Thorax2015yeah07:37
Thorax2015no such file or directory07:37
EriC^^ok, so you're not using uefi07:37
EriC^^is /dev/sda your main hdd?07:38
Thorax2015Ahh, i just disabled it to try and boot07:38
EriC^^type sudo parted -l07:38
Thorax2015One sec, i'll renable it07:38
EriC^^Thorax2015: no it's fine07:38
Thorax2015damn, too late07:38
EriC^^it depends on how you installed, you can't switch backa nd forth07:38
Thorax2015UEFI is recomended right?07:38
Thorax2015It was installed with UEFI enabled07:38
MrokiiThorax2015: I'm talking about a standard Ubuntu-installation with Unity/compiz.07:38
EriC^^Thorax2015: type grep efi /etc/fstab07:38
EriC^^and tell us if there's a /boot/efi line07:39
Thorax2015Hmmm.... UEFI is enabled still07:39
Thorax2015EriC^^:  Will do, one sec07:39
Thorax2015The laptop has two drives btw, sda and sdc afaik, sda is a 500GB and sdc is a 16GB07:40
EriC^^ubuntu is on the 500gb one?07:40
Gallomimiadf -h07:41
Gallomimiagreat command to have a gander at what's what07:41
Thorax2015Yeah sortof. I put /boot /swap /var and /home on the 500GB and / on the 16gb07:41
EriC^^aha07:42
Thorax2015It isnt booting at all now07:42
EriC^^try disabling uefi07:42
Thorax2015haha, doing that07:42
Gallomimiais the 16gig a thumb drive?07:42
Thorax2015No, ssd07:43
Gallomimiaoh cool07:43
Thorax2015hmmm... I may just put it on a CD and try again07:43
Gallomimiaum... sounds like it's a hybrid drive07:43
Thorax2015Yeah i thought it was when i first got the laptop, but its not07:44
Thorax2015Two different brands, two physical drives07:44
Thorax2015ha, gonna have to boot into ubuntu live in order to burn the iso to disk07:44
Gallomimiaok. i thought that might explain why uefi was having problems07:45
EriC^^if you boot into ubuntu live07:45
EriC^^you can fix it07:45
Gallomimiabut yes. if you're using uefi. you need a separate /boot/EFI partition07:45
Gallomimiaubuntu live should have an automagic fixer for that07:45
Thorax2015Yeah thats what i thought, but there was no option for it during install07:45
baizon... and dont forget to boot from it07:45
baizonThorax2015: yes there is, when you chose "automatically"07:46
Thorax2015i knoooooww07:46
Thorax2015Im using the minimal iso to install btw, the live one i have is the full thing07:47
Thorax2015Which i dont want to install07:47
Thorax2015ffs, it aint booting from anything now07:47
DsbeerfHello, is there a way to redo a dpkg-reconfigure or run ubiquity in text mode to add more package after a server install ?07:48
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EriC^^Dsbeerf: maybe look into tasksel07:49
EriC^^!info tasksel07:49
ubottutasksel (source: tasksel): Tool for selecting tasks for installation on Debian systems. In component main, is optional. Version 2.88ubuntu17 (wily), package size 31 kB, installed size 240 kB07:49
Thorax2015Wow... I literally cant boot into anything now. I select the device and I just get a blank screen07:50
DsbeerfEriC^^: that what i was looking for thanks :)07:50
EriC^^no problem07:50
Thorax2015Hm... I can boot into windows installation though07:51
Thorax2015Well, i have no idea whats going on07:52
EriC^^is fast boot enabled?07:53
Thorax2015Nope07:53
Thorax2015It will boot into the W10 setup, but not any linux distro I have.07:53
EriC^^is secureboot disabled?07:54
EriC^^i think you enabled uefi07:54
Thorax2015Yeah i did07:54
EriC^^and the install was in legacy07:54
Thorax2015But it was enabled anyway07:54
Thorax2015It has been enabled the whole time07:54
Thorax2015I was able to install from the mini iso with UEFI enabled07:55
EriC^^how'd that work though07:55
EriC^^with no efi partition07:55
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arrowhello07:55
Thorax2015Well atleast it loaded the installer07:55
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Thorax2015The problem was that it either installed GRUB to the USB, or the fact that it didnt allow me to choose a boot/efi partition07:56
EriC^^Thorax2015: is secureboot enabled?07:56
Guest78836how can i find all commands that i have ran from terminal since first login07:56
EriC^^Guest78836: "history"07:56
Guest78836EriC^^, it gives me just from 994 to 199507:57
Guest78836i dont see 1000 commands then07:57
EriC^^it gets truncated07:58
jushurGuest78836: note that bash_history does not append, it rewrites. thus if you have multipple terminmals open. you may lose some used commands.07:58
Guest78836it means that i cant restore all commands that i have used?07:59
Thorax2015ok EriC^^. ive disabled UEFI and the Ubuntu 15.04 live cd has loaded07:59
EriC^^Thorax2015: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999907:59
Thorax2015Eh... I may have jumped the gun. Its loading haha08:00
Thorax2015CD drives are much slower than USB ofcourse08:00
EriC^^yeh08:00
EriC^^did you disable secureboot?08:01
Thorax2015I disabled UEFI yeah08:01
EriC^^you're going to need it08:01
drink1n_i found a nice font but it charges. http://www.fsd.it/shop/fonts/pragmatapro08:01
EriC^^for win1008:01
drink1n_what font for coding, you use?08:01
Thorax2015Im not using win10 on the laptop08:01
Thorax2015drink1n_:  on windows, segoe08:02
EriC^^it'll make life easier if you ever want to08:02
drink1n_Thorax2015: mono one?08:02
Thorax2015Should I enable it and boot from the Ubuntu CD again?08:02
EriC^^Thorax2015: well leave it loading08:02
Thorax2015drink1n_:  I dont do any programming on Linux08:02
EriC^^and type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999908:03
EriC^^so we can get an idea of what the setup is08:03
Thorax2015kk08:03
Guest78836which command give me all lines does exist in a file?08:03
EriC^^Guest78836: cat <file>08:03
Guest78836EriC^^, i need to count lines08:04
Guest78836EriC^^, how can i do that?08:04
EriC^^wc -l < file08:04
Guest78836EriC^^, i get 2000 commands in bash)history08:05
Guest78836bash_history08:06
Guest78836it is great08:06
Thorax2015ok EriC^^, I get "nc: getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution"  "Warning: Unabble to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system). /dev/sr0 has been opened read only"08:06
Guest78836what is difference between EFI and normal boot?08:07
Guest78836i am going to install ubuntu 14.0408:07
Thorax2015Thats a question for google really guest7883608:07
Thorax2015And why such an old version?08:08
Guest78836Thorax2015, i did but technically i couldnt understand08:08
EriC^^Guest78836: normal boot uses the mbr for the bootloader, efi uses a efi partition, so you can have multiple bootloaders at the same time + it's a little quicker08:08
Thorax2015Any ideas EriC^^ ?08:09
EriC^^Thorax2015: do you have internet access on it?08:10
EriC^^try ping google.com08:10
Thorax2015I do yeah08:10
Guest78836EriC^^, thanks08:10
Guest78836when ubuntu 16.04 release?08:10
Guest78836is it systemed?08:10
Guest78836do i wait for ubuntu 16.04 or install ubuntu 14.0408:10
EriC^^Thorax2015: ok, type sudo parted -l | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us08:11
Thorax2015Guest78836, install 15.04...08:11
EriC^^*15.1008:11
Thorax2015even better yeah haha08:11
EriC^^Guest78836: 16.04 is next month08:11
EriC^^Guest78836: since 15.04+ it's been systemd08:12
drink1n_Guest78836: fcuk systemd08:12
jushur!language | drink1n_08:12
ubottudrink1n_: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList08:12
drink1n_okay ;) sorry08:13
Thorax2015EriC^^:  It says curl isnt installed. What are you hoping to do?08:13
EriC^^Thorax2015: see the partition table08:13
EriC^^try sudo apt-get install curl08:13
EriC^^Thorax2015: or just paste it in a pastebin ( sudo parted -l )08:14
EriC^^(!)08:14
Thorax2015Would it just be easier to just reinstall from the minimal iso?08:14
Guest78836drink1n_, agree with you08:14
Thorax2015EriC^^:  Can i not just check gparted?08:15
EriC^^Thorax2015: ok, type sudo parted -l08:15
EriC^^and just say what the partition type is08:15
EriC^^it's very easy just select them, and go to http://paste.ubuntu.com08:16
Thorax2015gpt?08:16
EriC^^and press the middle mouse button to paste08:16
EriC^^ok08:16
EriC^^do you see any bios_boot partitions?08:16
Guest78836i run tor-browser.sh in terminal how can i find directory of this script08:16
Guest78836?08:16
EriC^^Guest78836: which tor-browser.sh08:16
EriC^^( that's a command )08:17
Guest78836EriC^^, i run it in terminal and the program show up08:17
Guest78836i need to find directory that tor has installed08:18
EriC^^Guest78836: no i mean type "which tor-browser.sh"08:18
EriC^^it'll say where the first place it finds it in08:18
Guest78836EriC^^, i found it08:19
Guest78836EriC^^, if i run this script on the other system program can execute?08:20
EriC^^Guest78836: what?08:20
Thorax2MILLIONSJhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15289984/08:21
Guest78836EriC^^, i need to back up from my tor08:21
EriC^^Thorax2MILLIONSJ: that wasn't too hard now was it? :D08:21
Thorax2MILLIONSJhahaha08:21
Guest78836because i am migrating to ubuntu 14.0408:21
Thorax2MILLIONSJHad to install an irc client on here but whatever haha08:22
EriC^^Thorax2MILLIONSJ: ok, so you're using gpt, and a bios_boot, so you're using legacy on the install08:22
Thorax2015Guest78836. UBUNTU 15.10!!!!08:22
Thorax2015EriC^^:  ahh08:22
Guest78836Thorax2015, i am on 15.10 now08:22
Guest78836Thorax2015, i am hated from systemd08:23
Thorax2015So how the hell is installing 14.04 a good choice?08:23
Guest78836Thorax2015, because i am hated systemed08:23
Thorax2015fool...08:23
Thorax2015So EriC^^, the partition setup looks fine, but I need to fix the boot partition?08:24
EriC^^Guest78836: 16.04 will be systemd too08:24
EriC^^Guest78836: why don't you like it?08:24
EriC^^Thorax2015: well are you going to use win10 at all on the laptop?08:25
Guest78836EriC^^, because i cant manage services there08:25
Thorax2015No08:25
EriC^^if not just reinstall grub and call it a day08:25
EriC^^Thorax2015: ok, then chroot and reinstall grub08:25
EriC^^type sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt08:25
Thorax2015I swear I had UEFI enabled when i installed from the mini iso08:26
Guest78836many commands are differences in systemed08:26
Thorax2015Guest7886. so you just fear change?08:26
EriC^^Guest78836: learn them08:26
EriC^^!systemd | Guest7883608:26
ubottuGuest78836: systemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers08:26
Thorax2015https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/rKdQD2JHty5N34wb2b5vtj3z11w=/0x64:258x236/1310x873/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/21165371/garth-fear-change-258x300.0.jpg08:26
Guest78836i was going to enable a script at boot time i couldnt08:27
Thorax2MILLIONSJDone that EriC^^08:27
Guest78836if i wan to learn systemed i migrate to fedora instead of ubuntu08:27
EriC^^Guest78836: there are guides for it in that site i think, did you type systemctl enable <service> after you made the file?08:27
Thorax2MILLIONSJWell, I entered the sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt command08:28
Thorax2MILLIONSJGood look with fedora... their package manager is awful08:28
EriC^^Thorax2MILLIONSJ: ok, type " for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done "08:28
Thorax2MILLIONSJAt first I liked fedora, until I tried to actually modify anything08:28
EriC^^i know, it's a long sucker08:28
Thorax2MILLIONSJEverything between the quotes EriC^^ ?08:28
EriC^^yeah08:29
Thorax2MILLIONSJdone08:29
Guest78836EriC^^, which do you prefer?08:29
EriC^^i'm using 14.04 right now, i'll clean install 16.04 when it comes out08:29
EriC^^systemd isn't that bad08:29
Guest78836why didnt you install 15.10?08:30
Thorax2MILLIONSJEriC^^, howcome youre using 14.04?08:30
Thorax2MILLIONSJhaha08:30
Mikelevelsudo service XXXXX start/stop/restart/status   <--- all you need to learn about systemd?08:30
EriC^^cause it's lts08:30
EriC^^not going to upgrade every 6months or so, plus the in between releases seem to suck a lot08:30
Thorax2MILLIONSJSo what now EriC^^ ?08:31
Guest78836Mikelevel, it is not whole08:31
EriC^^Thorax2MILLIONSJ: sudo chroot /mnt08:32
Thorax2MILLIONSJEriC^^, ok done08:32
EriC^^Thorax2MILLIONSJ: mount -a08:32
Guest7883614.04 is supprted for 3 years?08:32
EriC^^5 years08:32
Thorax2MILLIONSJEriC^^, ok done08:32
Guest78836i prefer it08:32
EriC^^Thorax2MILLIONSJ: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda08:33
EriC^^Thorax2MILLIONSJ: in the bios, you have to set the 500gb to be first in the boot order08:33
Guest78836EriC^^, why ubuntu dont install java as default?08:33
EriC^^Thorax2MILLIONSJ: that's probably what's wrong right now08:33
Thorax2MILLIONSJEriC^^, Yeah it is08:34
Thorax2MILLIONSJGuest78836, a lot of these questions would be better aimed at google...08:34
EriC^^Guest78836: you ask many questions, and i have little answers :D08:34
Guest78836i live at iran and oracle has been blocked us08:34
Guest78836idk how can i install that08:35
Thorax2MILLIONSJGuest78836, google08:35
EriC^^Guest78836: install it from the repositories08:35
Thorax2MILLIONSJEriC^^, Installing for i386-pc platform.08:35
Thorax2MILLIONSJInstallation finished. No error reported.08:35
EriC^^Thorax2MILLIONSJ: update-grub08:35
Thorax2MILLIONSJEriC^^, Generating grub configuration file ...08:35
Thorax2MILLIONSJWarning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.08:36
Thorax2MILLIONSJFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-30-generic08:36
Thorax2MILLIONSJFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-30-generic08:36
Thorax2MILLIONSJdone08:36
EriC^^Thorax2MILLIONSJ: ok, exit then reboot08:36
Thorax2MILLIONSJk08:36
Guest78836EriC^^,when i install java 8 i get error08:36
EriC^^what error?08:37
Thorax2015It doesnt boot EriC^^08:37
EriC^^Thorax2015: is csm legacy enabled? the 500gb first in boot order?08:37
Thorax2015EriC^^:  No to CSM, and yeah the 500GB is first08:38
Guest78836 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java08:38
EriC^^Thorax2015: try enabling csm08:38
EriC^^Guest78836: ok what error do you get?08:39
Thorax2015EriC^^:  Im afraid there is no option for it in my bios08:39
EriC^^Thorax2015: ok, try enabling uefi08:39
EriC^^again08:39
EriC^^and see if you can get the installer to boot in uefi mode08:39
Guest78836E: Unable to locate package oracle-java8-installer08:40
EriC^^Guest78836: did you run sudo apt-get update08:40
EriC^^?08:40
Guest78836no08:40
EriC^^run it08:40
Thorax2015EriC^^:  ok its booting from the usb08:41
EriC^^cool08:41
Guest78836okay08:41
Thorax2015EriC^^:  Not the setup though....08:41
EriC^^?08:41
Thorax2015Its given me the computer name and asked for a login.08:41
EriC^^oddest thing ever08:41
Guest78836E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)08:41
EriC^^Guest78836: you ran apt-get update then tried installing?08:42
EriC^^and it said that?08:42
Guest78836Note: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin08:42
Guest78836EriC^^, yes08:42
EriC^^ok, type echo $PATH08:42
EriC^^Thorax2015: so weird08:42
Guest78836bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games: No such file or directory08:43
EriC^^login08:43
EriC^^and type df -h08:43
Thorax2015Yeah, i swear its installed something onto the USB08:43
Thorax2015Similar thing happened when installing windows 10 from a usb, it installs the loader onto the usb08:43
Guest78836EriC^^, no matter08:44
Guest78836EriC^^, i am going to install 14.04 i will try there08:44
EriC^^Guest78836: ok08:44
Guest78836i have downloaded a iso file it is 1GB how can i create my usb flash bootable08:45
Thorax2015Gonna put the minimal iso onto CD and try again08:45
Thorax2015Guest78836, how can you complain so much about sytemd when you cant even figure out basic stuff like that08:45
Thorax2015Google it for the love of god. Its on the ubuntu website08:46
EriC^^Guest78836: type sudo parted -l to get the usb's name, then type sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync08:46
Guest78836Thorax2015 many people dont like systemed08:46
EriC^^Guest78836: don't use /dev/sdxY , only /dev/sdX of the usb08:47
Guest78836Thorax2015, you should be polite08:47
Thorax2015Guest78836: I'm trying to help. Google has the answer to your very simple problem08:47
Guest78836Thorax2015, you should google your questions also dont come here08:48
Thorax2015haha, youre kidding right? What im asking is a bit more specific than what you are after08:48
Guest78836Thorax2015, google has answer for your question i detail08:49
Thorax2015Guest78836: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows   <--- here is the answer to your question, first result on google08:49
JamesTHi, is there anyone who could help me obtain the official Ubuntu CDs (including old releases)?08:50
JamesTI used to have a couple of them, but lost them while moving...08:51
Thorax2015JamesT:  http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/08:51
EriC^^Guest78836: Thorax2015 it's perfectly fine to ask anything here as long as it's ubuntu related08:51
JamesT@Thorax2015 I mean the ones that were shipped by ShipIt...08:52
Guest78836EriC^^, i see this Model: UFD 2.0 Silicon-Power8G (scsi)08:54
Guest78836Disk /dev/sdb: 8054MB08:54
EriC^^Guest78836: is that the usb you want to write to for sure?08:54
Guest78836EriC^^, it is my usb08:55
EriC^^ok, where's the iso located?08:55
Guest78836 1      28.7kB  8054MB  8054MB  primary  fat32        boot, lba08:56
Guest78836it is in my download directory08:56
Guest78836~/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso08:58
EriC^^Guest78836: ok, type sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu-something...iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M && sync08:58
Guest78836it is in process09:00
Guest78836EriC^^, is it faster than dvd boot?09:03
EriC^^Guest78836: i think so, yeah09:05
Guest78836EriC^^, i just ran sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M09:05
EriC^^Guest78836: ok type sync09:05
Guest78836sync hasnt any output09:05
EriC^^ok09:05
EriC^^it's done09:06
yorick__hey. I want to run the 'virsh -c qemu:///system list' command as my own user, but it seems that I always have to login on the 'libvirtd' group, by typing 'newgrp libvirtd'. Is there a way to stay logged in in multiple groups?09:06
Guest78836EriC^^, thanks09:06
Guest78836i just choose my usb in boot time?09:06
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EriC^^Guest78836: no problem, yeah09:07
Guest78836EriC^^, you are difference from some guys here you like to help09:08
Guest78836EriC^^, thanks bbye09:08
hilxyorick__, try adding yourself to that group09:08
EriC^^bye09:08
hilxyorick__, like.. sudo usermod -a -G [group-name] [user-name]09:09
yorick__ive done that09:09
yorick__but it seems that I do need the 'libvirtd' group as primary group09:10
yorick__pretty strange. I'd have the same issue with docker09:10
hilxdid you relogin after adding yourself?09:11
yorick__i opened a new bash session09:13
yorick__isnt that enough?09:13
hilxthat sh'd do it. strange09:13
alkisgNo, just running bash doesn't do it09:13
yorick__hmm09:13
yorick__should that really be the trick09:13
jushuronly if its set as a login shell09:14
yorick__moment, i will restart my pc and let you know=)09:14
alkisgLogout in the dm should be enough09:14
hilxi learned something! o/ :)09:15
yorick__sorry, what do you mean with dm?09:16
JamesT1995dm=display manager (login screen)09:16
alkisgdisplay manager, lightdm09:16
yorick__ahh09:16
yorick__ok09:16
yorick__brb09:16
yorick__ty for mow09:17
hilxi like mow09:17
JamesT1995Hey guys, I need help. I used to own a couple of the original Ubuntu CDs that used to be shipped by ShipIt, but unfortunately I lost them while moving. Is there any chance to obtain them again (including old releases)? I know that ShipIt has been canceled :-(09:22
alkisgJamesT1995: how, for someone here that has them to ship them to you?09:23
JamesT1995alkisg I would be very grateful, I am even willing to buy them.09:24
Thorax2015So, am i being stupid or what. Ive booted into Ubuntu live from USB, ive inserted a blank cd and downloaded ubuntu mini iso. And I right click on the iso and choose Open With >> Disk Image Writer. But the CD drive is greyed out09:24
Thorax2015Its says its already mounted09:25
alkisgJamesT1995: I think I have 4-5 different original CDs, somewhere from 5.04 to 12.04... mail me at alkisg at gmail dot com if you want them09:26
JamesT1995alkisg: I will, thank you!09:27
EriC^^Thorax2015: try lsblk09:27
Thorax2015Yep, I was being slow. Ignore me.09:28
yorick__thanks, the login woked =)09:28
yorick__worked09:28
SkyriderGreetings all09:34
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SkyriderWas wondering if someone could help me with rsyslog "invoke-rc.d: initscript rsyslog, action "start" failed.09:36
Skyrider" -> Errors were encountered while processing: rsyslog / E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:36
irc-apeburn all jews in oven09:53
irc-apeallahu akhbar09:53
irc-apedeath to infidels09:53
irc-apeburn all jews in GAS oven09:53
JamesT1995irc-ape: oh...youre about to be baned09:54
irc-apesieg heil09:54
irc-apedeath to infidels!!!!!!!09:54
SkyriderIndeed, if any admin is available.. Please ban09:54
Skyrider** Operators09:54
SkyriderTy09:55
JamesT1995where do these people come from?!09:55
mattkim:)09:55
CookieMrussia?09:56
fauenhaha09:56
JamesT1995Btw...I was looking for original CDs...09:56
SkyriderStill need help with rsyslog :)10:04
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JamesT1995Hey guys...how can I get the latest version of GParted on Ubuntu? The version 0.19 is kind of outdated...0.25 is current10:13
alkisgJamesT1995:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gparted10:13
alkisg0.25 is in 16.0410:13
alkisgNewer package versions are not usually backported to previous ubuntu versions10:14
k1l_JamesT1995: what do you need that version for? is the one ubuntu ships not working?10:14
JamesT1995k1l_: no, its not...HFSplus has been fixed and I need it to work with my OS X Extended partition...10:15
alkisgTry with the 16.04 daily build iso10:15
k1l_JamesT1995: well, 0.25 was released 43 days ago.10:16
SkyriderDoes anyone happen to know a good way to restart a specific nginx sock when its down? (automated)10:16
JamesT1995k1l_: alkisg: honestly, sometimes it drive me crazy that Ubuntu isnt a cutting edge distro10:17
alkisgRegressions happen, not all people want the newest releases10:17
k1l_JamesT1995: ubuntu is a stable release distro. that is no secret.10:17
alkisgYou can just install a specific .deb if you really want it10:18
k1l_if you want a bleeding edge use the development channel. or use a rolling release distro in first place with all its downsides10:18
JamesT1995k1l_: alkisg: i know that, but I prefer using a repo...its easier to maintain, but cant find any10:18
alkisgDebian testing? :)10:18
alkisgGood luck keeping a stable system with that though10:18
Thorax2015Im installling the minimal ubuntu again, and its asking what kernel to install. Am i safe to just pick "linux-generic"?10:19
k1l_Thorax2015: yes. that is the standard kernel10:19
JamesT1995k1l_: downsides? the only cutting edge distro ive tried out was Arch Linux and didnt find any problem there...but Ubuntu is supported by many more companies...so I use it.10:19
m0dd3rhi10:22
m0dd3rhow can i setup wifi hotspot on ubuntu 15.1010:22
k1l_m0dd3r: the networkmanager can do that if you have internet on ethernet cable10:23
m0dd3ryea...but i want wifi ap which the network manager doesn't10:24
JamesT1995m0dd3r: "Create New WiFi Netowork"10:24
m0dd3rthere are only infrastructure and ad-hoc10:24
EriC^^m0dd3r: create a network then modify the config10:24
m0dd3rdid mode=ap10:25
m0dd3rin the config10:25
m0dd3rbut still wifi ap not turning on10:25
EriC^^m0dd3r: go to create wifi network and choose it from the list10:27
m0dd3ryes did that too but ap not turning on what to do ?10:28
m0dd3ris there a bug in ubuntu 15.1010:29
k1l_are you using the wifi?10:29
Bayanganis your wifi card support ap mode?10:29
m0dd3rnope...i have disabled it10:29
k1l_m0dd3r: is there any error in dmesg?10:29
m0dd3rinternet connection is from ethernet10:29
m0dd3rnope no error is shown10:29
k1l_is it disabled? or just not connected to another wifi?10:30
m0dd3rdisabled10:30
k1l_then make it enabled but not connected10:30
m0dd3rok did.. now ?10:30
k1l_does it work now?10:31
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m0dd3rnope still doesn't10:32
arrowhello10:32
m0dd3rk1l_: still doesn't10:32
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k1l_m0dd3r: please show a "iw list" in a pastebin10:33
Guest1641hek10:35
m0dd3rk1l_: [connection]10:35
m0dd3rid=rocker10:35
m0dd3ruuid=3b12033d-d914-4dee-a2f9-462b3c6efbe110:35
m0dd3rtype=wifi10:35
m0dd3rpermissions=10:35
m0dd3rsecondaries=10:35
k1l_!paste | m0dd3r10:35
ubottum0dd3r: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:35
m0dd3rk1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15290657/10:38
k1l_m0dd3r: is this "iw list"?10:38
m0dd3rsorry ? what is iw list ?10:39
m0dd3ri thought it was the config10:39
k1l_put "iw list" as command in the terminal10:40
serseswhy wireless doesn't work on Acer laptopts?10:40
k1l_serses: that depends on the exact chips used. but i guess they use the cheapest chips10:41
m0dd3rk1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15290686/10:41
k1l_m0dd3r: ok, the card supports AP mode10:42
m0dd3ryup10:42
k1l_m0dd3r: see this http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/09/3-ways-create-wifi-hotspot-ubuntu/10:42
akikserses: it's not about the manufacturer per se but which chip they are using and whether that chip is supported in linux10:43
akikserses: yes, i've been there with acer laptops10:43
m0dd3ryes... already that change in config file and followed the procedure ... not working in ubuntu 15.1010:43
m0dd3rk1l_: it worked in previous ubuntu 15.0410:44
sersesso is there anyway to fix it?10:44
k1l_m0dd3r: it cant be disabled. you need to choose that new created wifi10:44
k1l_serses: that depends on the chips it uses. there are hundreds of different wifi chips. so we cant say yes or no without knowing what chip it is10:45
sersesQualcom Atheros10:45
m0dd3rk1l_: it does'nt connect to the wifi10:45
k1l_m0dd3r: then file a bug and see what the maintainer says about it10:46
k1l_!bug | m0dd3r10:46
ubottum0dd3r: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.10:46
k1l_m0dd3r: since you said there is no error in the logfiles10:46
sersesit is Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 Wireless Network Adapter10:46
k1l_serses: can you show a "rfkill list" on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here?10:47
sersesi'm on windows right now , but i will try10:47
VarunAgwDoes anyone here solution to this -> https://askubuntu.com/q/742079/405926 (Access framebuffer /dev/fb0 in AWS EC2 (Ubuntu Server))10:57
Thorax2015So, finished the mini iso install. Still doesnt boot into Ubuntu10:58
Thorax2015I think its time I installed an OS that just works10:59
sersesok i run rfkill on ubuntu : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15290781/10:59
alkisgThorax2015: what's the problem, you install ubuntu under uefi and then grub doesn't show up?11:01
Thorax2015yeah11:02
Thorax2015It just goes round in circles11:02
alkisgThorax2015: what circles? what happens after installation?11:03
Thorax2015After install. I eject the CD, and it shows the mobo boot, then goes black, restarts11:03
Thorax2015Over and over11:03
alkisgDo you also have another OS installed, like e.g. windows?11:03
Thorax2015No11:04
alkisgDid you manage to boot with a live cd or stick?11:04
alkisgnot mini.iso, something live11:04
alkisgWhere you can run commands and examine things11:04
Thorax2015Yeah i did11:04
alkisgCan you boot with that, so that we see if your uefi environment is sane? partitions, boot files etc?11:05
Thorax2015But after all the commands eric gave me, it didnt work11:05
Thorax2015So i reinstalled, this time using a cd11:05
Thorax2015I just wanted a minimal install with Cinnamon11:06
alkisgDo you still have the live usb stick? I think we'll get better information if you actually have a running system where you can give feedback.11:07
Thorax2015Yeah im running it now11:08
alkisgThorax2015: what's the output of `sudo parted -l`?11:08
alkisgAnd, what's the output of this command?             [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS11:09
Thorax2015One minute, just gonna grab hexchat on the live usb11:09
alkisgThere's also webchat.freenode.net if you prefer (browser-based)11:09
Thorax2015ahh yeah thats a good idea11:10
Thorax2015why didnt i think of that11:10
k1l_serses: see if that helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2281584&page=2&p=13414356&viewfull=1#post1341435611:10
sersesok I will try that11:12
JamesT1995Does anyone here use Xfce?11:12
ThoraxTiredSo k1l_ , what did you want to see?11:13
alkisgThoraxTired: maybe you meant me?11:13
alkisgsudo parted -l;        [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS11:13
ThoraxTiredAhh sorry... Tired11:13
humbotyes JamesT1995, some people do ;)11:14
JamesT1995humbot: what icon theme do you use?...i cant find any that is xfce-compatible...11:14
ThoraxTiredhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15290906/ alkisg11:15
humboti don't even know :P11:15
ThoraxTiredI've used xfce quite a bit. I find Cinnamon and MATE a lot faster11:15
alkisgThoraxTired: you don't have an uefi partition, you have a bios_grub partition11:15
alkisgThat's not suitable for uefi installation under gpt11:16
alkisgThat's why your system can't boot11:16
humboti totally disagree ThoraxTired11:16
ThoraxTiredalkisg: I let Ubuntu do the partitions this time11:16
alkisgThoraxTired: then when you installed ubuntu, it had not booted with uefi11:16
MonkeyDust  JamesT1995 http://xfce-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=43011:16
ThoraxTiredHa, I can assure you it had11:17
ThoraxTiredIts been enabled all day11:17
alkisgWell, bios_grub is "bios"11:17
alkisgIt's not "uefi"11:17
ThoraxTiredI know11:17
alkisgSo it's wrong now11:17
humboti use xfce-dusk style and tango icons JamesT199511:17
ThoraxTiredBut uefi is enabled now, and it hasnt been changed all day11:17
alkisgIf mini.iso has no support for uefi, your motherboard might boot it under csm11:17
humbotyup xfce-look.org is good and the xfce4-goodies package is good too11:18
alkisgYou don't have to enter setup to disable uefi to boot under legacy, some motherboards just do that depending on the medium11:18
wizard_Ai am getting a failed packer build when i try building a virtual box iso using ubuntu 14.04 server-amd64.. it always stops at the select and install software part... which line of code in preseed file do i need to tweek in order to solve this??11:18
alkisgThoraxTired: so now you either need to reinstall with proper partitioning, or fix grub-efi11:18
alkisgManually fixing it might take a while though11:18
ThoraxTiredInstalling it is taking a while. Been at it for nearly 5 hours.....11:19
ThoraxTiredhmm11:21
ThoraxTiredalkisg: You think if i disable uefi it will boot?11:21
JamesT1995alkisg: btw...thank you for offering me the CDs, but I think itll be cheaper if I find someone in the US :-)11:22
alkisgJamesT1995: haha, true11:22
alkisgThoraxTired: you can test it with kvm11:22
ThoraxTiredwhats kvm?11:23
alkisgThoraxTired: something like virtualbox11:23
ThoraxTiredah11:23
alkisgenable universe; apt-get install kvm; sudo kvm -m 512 /dev/sda11:23
ThoraxTiredtbh, I think i may just install windows11:23
alkisgWindows will make an uefi partition for you11:24
alkisgThe live stick you now have will also make an uefi partition for you11:24
ThoraxTiredhow?11:24
alkisgIn any case, your current partitions are wrong11:24
ThoraxTiredThey were the auto setup ones11:24
alkisgGo to gparted, create a new GPT disklabel destroying all data, and then use setup11:24
alkisgNot under uefi, they weren't11:25
ThoraxTiredBut i dont want to install the full Ubuntu11:25
alkisgI don't think ubuntu is so buggy that it creates bios_grub under uefi11:25
ThoraxTiredI want Ubuntu, minus all the crap11:25
alkisgInstall the full ubuntu first, then when you have a working setup you can do whatever else you like11:25
dongustonIs there any reason why i couldnt install a desktop onto a vps? im using the chapest OVH vps and want to run firefox in it? Its running ubuntu server edition and ive just done apt-get install ubuntu-desktop11:25
ThoraxTiredWhat do you mean?11:25
alkisgE.g. remove ubuntu-desktop or do another installation11:25
alkisgIt's just packages, easy to add or remove them11:26
alkisgYou can e.g. get a list of your current packages in your non-bootable hard disk, and keep only those11:26
ThoraxTiredIf i run the installer from the live cd, use that to create the partitions, then run the mini iso, and keep those partitions, will that work?11:27
bikalpaanyone available??11:28
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pihello11:35
JamesT1995pi: hello11:36
obrientimothyahey pi11:36
ThoraxOk, i double checked it was still in UEFI, and it was. Im not running the install from the live usb11:36
ThoraxWith this installer, I dont need to create boot partitions do I?11:36
BikerMikeI'm curious as to why there exists ubuntuforums and askubuntu? thanks11:38
R13oseI am stick in grub and unsure how to boot from there.  When I run the command boot, I get the error: "error: no loaded kernel" How do I fix this?11:38
R13oseBikerMike: http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1351/what-is-the-difference-between-ubuntuforums-and-askubuntu11:39
BikerMiketyvm r13ose11:40
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MonkeyDustBender___  if you're sweet11:47
linuxhi11:47
Bender___I see...11:47
R13oseany thoughts on my question?11:47
linuxim from russia11:48
Bender___Is russia really cold?11:48
linuxесть кто руские?11:48
linuxno11:49
linux-40 in winter11:49
Bender___Cool11:49
Bender___wow11:49
linuxwhere you from?11:49
ThoraxSounds like fun in a bun11:49
Bender___here is 15 in winter and I almost died11:49
Bender___Brazil11:50
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MonkeyDustBender___  great, but tell it in #ubuntu-offtopic... this is the support channel11:51
Bender___ok11:51
linuxlinux usd?11:51
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linuxесть тут РУСКИЕ????11:55
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MonkeyDustlinux  we see you, it works, ask your ubuntu question11:56
linuxkira_senpai:11:57
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linuxkira you girl?11:57
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drink1n_what?11:58
linuxwhot?11:58
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BluesKaj'Morning all11:59
linuxhi12:00
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BernzelI need some help with Intellij on my Ubuntu system. I had a previous version installed in my Home dir. Now I downloaded the latest version, unpacked it to my Home dir and ran idea.sh in the bin dir of the new version directory. But do I still need to remove the old folder?12:03
BernzelI thought the old version was to be simply upgraded when doing this12:03
cfhowlettBernzel, you installed from outside the repo. that is NOT an upgrade12:04
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Bernzelcfhowlett, Ok. So now what? Do I remove the old folder?12:05
cfhowlettat this point, you likely have 2 versions installed, Bernzel12:05
cfhowlettI'd say yes12:05
Bernzelcfhowlett, and how can I make an starting icon from the new version?12:06
cfhowlettBernzel, eh, why not just edit the properties of the existing icon to point to your new version??12:06
Bernzelhow?12:07
Komzpahey! who shall I ping to make sure qgis 2.14 LTS gets into ubuntu xenial?12:07
cfhowlettI don't use unity so I'm guessing right click on icon, go to properties and edit12:07
cfhowlettKomzpa, feature freeze has already passed12:08
cfhowlettno new features to be added12:08
Bernzelcfhowlett, that's not working. It's not clickable even.12:08
Komzpacfhowlett: so no way?12:09
cfhowlettBernzel, I did admit that I don't use unity :)12:09
k1l_Komzpa: no. you can make a PPA.12:09
cfhowlettthis ^^^12:09
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cfhowlettBernzel, someone other than me will know.  ask the channel12:09
k1l_Komzpa: but it looks like its only synced from debian into ubuntu. so you should be pushing new versions to debian12:09
Komzpak1l_: so if there's new version in debian it can get into xenial?12:10
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BernzelChannel! Anyone knows how I can either point an existing icon to my new working directory of Intellij or create a new one?12:10
EriC^^Bernzel: .desktop files12:11
k1l_Komzpa: no. look at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule12:11
MonkeyDustBernzel  /usr/share/applications/ ... edit the icon you need12:11
k1l_Komzpa: but for packages like this who dont have a own maintainer on ubuntu they get only pulled from debian.12:11
Komzpa>> After this date, packages will only be imported from Debian in this way by explicit request from a developer.12:12
BernzelMonkeyDust, and if the icon isn't there anymore? (dunno what happened)12:12
MonkeyDust!find intellij12:13
ubottuFile intellij found in qtcreator-data12:13
BernzelMonkeyDust, it's not there.12:15
math171hello12:15
math171my ubuntu mate (init version 14.04) doesn't boot after upgrade what might be causes?12:16
MonkeyDustBernzel  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles12:16
mintuxis there any way to make snapshot or backup from server and install or upgrade it that i can restore it? ubuntu server12:19
BernzelYes thank you Monek12:20
BernzelMonkeyDust,12:20
MonkeyDust!backup | mintux12:20
ubottumintux: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:20
MonkeyDustBernzel  glad i could help12:22
BernzelMonkeyDust, Just one thing. Do I save that text document to the "applications" directory?12:22
Guest1641hello12:22
MonkeyDustBernzel  not sure12:22
Guest1641where can i see my packages list?12:23
Bernzelthey don't seem to cover that part in the article12:23
cfhowlettGuest1641, dpkg -l          in a terminal12:23
Guest1641cfhowlett, how can find a name in this list ?12:23
MonkeyDustGuest1641  use grep12:24
cfhowlettGuest1641, dpkg -l | grep packagename12:24
EriC^^Bernzel: yeah save it in applications12:24
Guest1641MonkeyDust, idk whole name of package12:24
MonkeyDustGuest1641  then use a part of it12:24
EriC^^or use apropos12:24
EriC^^apropos <something relevant>12:25
cfhowlettor dpkg -l | grep pack*12:25
Guest1641ii  tor-browser                                   5.5-1~webupd8~0                            amd64        Tor Browser Bundle12:26
Guest1641what is 5.5-1~webupd8~0?12:27
k1l_that is the version number. its from the webupd8 PPA12:27
Guest1641which command help me to add A PPA?12:27
k1l_that is already from a PPA12:28
Guest1641I KNOW I AM GOING TO ADD IT TO MY UBUNTU ON MY PC IT IS ON MY LAPTOP NOW12:29
MonkeyDustGuest1641  caps12:29
yann-kaeligHI12:29
Guest1641MonkeyDust, excuse me12:29
yann-kaeligwhere are the option tho change the keyboard layout ?12:29
k1l_Guest1641: the PPA website got the instructions https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/tor-browser12:29
yann-kaeligthere is nothing like that into keyboard settings12:30
MonkeyDustyann-kaelig  what's wrong with the system settings12:30
wesleyotugoGuest1641: No need to go all caps, please moderate12:30
yann-kaeligMonkeyDust: I don't know. I just want to chaneg the keyboard layout. So I can imagine it's int okeyboard settings, but its not12:31
Bender_Maximohi12:31
Bender_MaximoIs it normal my ubuntu goes down when I use chrome?12:32
MonkeyDustyann-kaelig  what is not the keyboard settings? your country layout?12:32
k1l_Bender_Maximo: no12:32
Bender_MaximoI think I unistall ir and just use mozilla12:32
k1l_Bender_Maximo: what do you mean exactly by "going down"?12:33
wesleyotugoBender_Maximo: No, It is not normal.12:33
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Bender_Maximothe screen just turn black12:34
Bender_Maximoand ask for login12:34
wesleyotugoBender_Maximo: Are you using 14.04 LTS12:35
yann-kaeliglol, text entry...12:37
MonkeyDustyann-kaelig  found it?12:37
lotuspsychjehi MonkeyDust12:37
k1l_Bender_Maximo: you could look into the logs in syslog or the .xsession-errors in home12:37
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje12:37
Bender_Maximoyes it`s the 14.04 LTS12:38
yann-kaeligit's certainly too easy to just write keyboard layout. Sometijmes i things dev are really perturbed in her head12:38
Bender_MaximoOk I'll try it12:38
Bender_Maximotanks12:38
Bender_Maximothanks12:38
wesleyotugoBender_Maximo: Okay then, do you use any other DE like Gnome, KDE or your just using unity ?12:39
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yorick__Hey, because of issues getting software working, needed for a game, I would like to install a virtual machine in KVM to run this game. Is there a good guide how to get a good working Windows VM for gaming?12:40
MonkeyDust!kvm | yorick__ start here12:41
ubottuyorick__ start here: kvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM12:41
yann-kaelighttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_entry_interface12:42
MonkeyDustyorick__  there's also !wine12:42
yorick__yes but wine is bugged12:43
yorick__with the software i use12:43
yorick__i want to play cnc-online which will do sone dns changes12:43
yorick__somehow this cant be done correctly12:43
yorick__(in wine)12:43
yorick__the game itself works fine12:44
mintuxMonkeyDust: no it's not thing that im looking for. i need a tools to restore my whole system. for example install a program or upgrade my os then i can role back12:47
az_i have external hdd with luks encryption and i cant have it connected to usb port because then grub don't boot (probably try boot from this usb) why?12:48
Guest1641when i run netbeans from repository i think it has not full option and when i want to run from external sources with netbeans8.sh i get java error what should i do?12:50
MonkeyDustmintux  like this? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/back-in-time-a-simple-backup-tool-for-ubuntu.html12:51
mintuxMonkeyDust: maybe but it need it for my server and it should not have gu12:52
mintuxgui12:52
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MonkeyDustmintux  there's also #ubuntu-server, maybe you find an answer there13:00
KentrelHey guys, I have a partition with an installation of Ubuntu that I haven't booted in 2.5 years. I'd like to start using it again. What's the best way to update this?13:00
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k1l_Kentrel: are you booted into that now?13:00
KentrelNo13:01
k1l_you know what version that is?13:01
KentrelCouldn't tell you offhand, but it was up to date 2.5 years go13:01
MonkeyDustKentrel  what's the output of  cat /etc/issue13:01
KentrelMonkeyDust, I have not booted into it yet13:02
MonkeyDustKentrel  we have to know *something*13:02
k1l_Kentrel: best is to boot into it and come in here13:02
KentrelOkay, well tell me what to look for. I'll boot into it and gather some intel13:02
Kentrelk1l_, Is that safe? I mean, I'll be advertising to the channel that I have an insecure distro13:03
k1l_you can boot into it, run "lsb_release -a" and "uname -a" and show the info in a pastebin when you booted back to what you use now. if you like13:04
Kentrelok13:04
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TesttubeAnyone have a good suggestion of a terminal application that will allow you to define list of servers you want to connect to?13:31
jushurTesttube: sh13:32
Testtube...13:34
yellabshello there13:35
MonkeyDustTesttube  you too, try #ubuntu-server13:35
yellabsis there a way to see gpu usage ( bash )13:35
TesttubeThanks MonkeyDust13:36
Norbinwhat gpu yellabs13:37
yellabsso on terminal , is there a way to see the useage of gpu ?13:37
jushurTesttube: im actualy quite serious, sh "bash scripts" + tmux and any cli tool combined is what you can use.13:37
yellabsgpu as in videocard memory13:37
Norbinwhat gpu yellabs13:37
Norbin........13:37
Norbinnvidia? amd/ati ?13:38
Norbinthere are different ways for each13:38
yellabsits a broadcom on chip device ( raspberry )13:38
TesttubeNorbin, how would you do it with intel intergrated?13:39
sector_0hey guys13:39
sector_0i have a problem with my screen flickering on and off when I try to wake it from sleep13:39
sector_0nothing is shown during this time (the screen simply remains black), but the backlight flickers on and off13:40
sector_0The issue is not consistent; it happens sporadically13:41
Testtubehmm thats odd sector_013:41
sector_0and restarting is usually the only solution....that i know of that is13:41
sector_0I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS with the latest AMD drivers for my Radeon HD 7870 Pitcairn13:42
Norbinyellabs: do you have vcdbg on that device ?13:43
Norbinwith some awk tweaks it can print readable numbers :~13:44
SkyriderI wonder which flavor I should get for my Ubuntu.13:51
Skyrider(desktop)13:51
MonkeyDustSkyrider  try a few a choose the one you like most, we can't decide for you13:52
MonkeyDustSkyrider  http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ#cMfLqdM13:53
yellabsthanks for the info13:54
SchrodingersScat!flavor | Skyrider the answer is always xubuntu13:54
ubottuSkyrider the answer is always xubuntu: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.13:54
manoxhey i need help http://pasteboard.co/22vDcWrT.png why apt is downloading two packages at same time?13:55
MonkeyDustmanox  what do you mean?13:56
SkyriderThat's now d/ling packages though..13:56
SkyriderThat's reading through the source list.13:56
SchrodingersScatmanox: why not?  if it can grab a large file while it also gets a few small files, seems like that would maximize efficiency.  Waste is a thief.13:56
manoxMonkeyDust: if u looked a image,, shuldnot the result be downloading <package > download speed etc ??13:58
SchrodingersScatfull disclosure, that site didn't load all the way for me, so I gave up.13:59
SkyriderYou used apt-get update, correct? rather than apt-get install13:59
ToBeFreemanox, apt downloades two packages at the same time if both come from different servers13:59
SkyriderAlso, I'm aware that there's plenty of flavors to choose from14:00
ToBeFreemanox: Here, Chromium is probably from a separate repository14:00
SkyriderFrom the images though, I prefer LXDE / KDE the most.. Seeing I'm on windows atm.14:00
ToBeFreeor firefox is14:00
ToBeFreefor me, Google Chrome is14:01
manoxToBeFree: O then i it does so for efficieny and there is no problem with my system14:01
ToBeFreemanox, correct :)14:01
ToBeFreeit could also do the same thing for packages from the same server, but I assume that the apt developers didn't want to increase the load on the repository servers14:02
SkyriderSchrodingersScat: Answer is always xubuntu?..14:02
ToBeFreeMaybe it would be relatively easy to modify that behavior, that depends on the source code. Maybe there's a switch for this that is disabled by default.14:02
SchrodingersScatSkyrider: outside of hardware limitations it's purely preference, so yes.14:02
SkyriderAh14:03
manoxthanx all14:03
SkyriderI wonder what I should do with all my partitions >_>14:03
ToBeFreeSkyrider: put backups on them unless you did that already ;)14:03
SkyriderWay too much backups (over 1TB) :p14:04
ToBeFree:D14:04
MonkeyDusti have a partition for my VMs14:04
SkyriderI'll go try out linux first.14:04
ToBeFreealso on external drives?14:04
SkyriderIndeed.14:04
ToBeFreehmm, and you still have too much free space :D14:04
ToBeFreecan't help you with that "issue", I'm afraid ;D14:05
SkyriderNot anymore ^^.. got way too much backups of backups.14:05
SkyriderLazy to go through all them.14:05
ToBeFreeah14:05
MonkeyDust'first world problems': what can i do with all my partitions?14:05
ToBeFreejust rsync the home folder to an external drive, detach it when not used, that's all I do. Not sure if that's sufficient, but I have already successfully restored from that backup 2 times14:06
SkyriderI'm referring to my games partition.14:06
SkyriderBut I need to get a ubuntu flavor first.14:06
SkyriderI hate choices.14:06
ToBeFreeSkyrider, did you try Ubuntu with Enlightenment yet? :)14:06
ToBeFree[I didn't, I'm thinking of unusual ideas]14:07
hrobjarturhi14:07
Rommecan anyone help me14:07
SkyriderNever heard of it.14:07
SkyriderRomme: ask away.14:07
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ToBeFreeRomme, not without you asking a question :)14:07
Rommedropbox on xfce doesn't work14:07
SkyriderOuch14:07
SkyriderWhy? :14:07
Rommeit shows a weird icon and a blank menu14:07
SkyriderAh, nvm.. thought it was meant as general.14:08
Rommei can't even take a screenshot when the menu is active14:08
hrobanyone know a good tool on ubuntu to monitor download traffic?14:08
Rommeactually, when any kind of menu is active, xfce screenshotter doesn't work14:08
Skyriderhrob: desktop or server?14:08
hrobSkyrider, desktop,  I'm doing experiments with my browser14:09
hrobSkyrider,  want something monitoring the total traffic at the eth interface level14:09
Skyriderntop?14:09
hrobSkyrider,  ok lets see :)14:10
Rommei'm on Xenial btw14:10
Skyriderport based though, rather than being GUI application.14:10
hrobSkyrider,   I notive many tools show network speed in mbps...  my aim is to have a cumulative indicator that starts at 0.0 and counts total MB14:10
hrob*notic14:10
hrobe14:10
jushurRomme: #ubuntu+1 for xenial questions.14:11
MonkeyDust!xenial | Romme14:11
ubottuRomme: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1479 - Discussion in #ubuntu+114:11
hrobSkyrider, it might be alright if similar to htop14:11
Skyrideriftop? ^^14:11
Skyridersimilar to htop.14:12
SkyriderBut there are plenty of monitors around though.14:12
hrobSkyrider,  yeah so many I don't know where to start also... its not always clear to me if they show cumulative downloads... most of them are for network debugging and don't care about total download14:13
hrobSkyrider,  hell,  if there was a python module I could maybe taylor the output to my own needs14:13
Skyrider14.01 or 15.10.. mmhh14:18
k1l_Skyrider: do you want to upgrade in 5 months?14:18
SkyriderAs long its easy and not breaking stuff, I don't exactly mind :p14:18
k1l_because then 15.10 is going EndOfLife and you dont have a choice then.14:19
k1l_for 14.04 you can not upgrade for 3 more years :)14:19
Skyrider5 months is a long way though.14:19
SkyriderCan I get "Xfce4 Panel Switch" for 14.01?14:20
k1l_Skyrider: 3 months after the release of 16.04, 15.10 will be shut down. so in that 3 months you need to upgrade.14:20
k1l_Skyrider: there is no 14.01. 14.04 or 14.10 (its year.month)14:20
SkyriderSorry, 14.04, my bad.14:20
TrumpLinux#TrumpLinux is growing. Let's Make Linux Great Again!14:21
jwsHi, I have an older packard bell laptop easynote with ATI. It sometimes works but often hangs during boot, or recursive errors during boot. with nomodeset it always boots but graphics is extremely slow, even after disabling animations.14:39
jwsAll the solutions I could find are either adding or removing "nomodeset", neither solves both of my problems.14:40
HovercrossCan anyone give me a quick hand? I have a VPS running Ubuntu 15.10 that I am using as as web server. I am trying to give sites their own IPv6 addresses, which I’ve done using an up ip -6 addr add entry in /etc/network/interfaces (to give the server the additional IP addresses). The problem is, NGINX is trying to come online before the additional IPv6 address is added and therefore fails. Relevant errors and configs at14:41
Hovercrosshttp://pastebin.com/tsrkVAQk14:41
HovercrossHow can I either add the IP to the system better or delay NGINX’s start until after the additional addresses have come online?14:41
jwsI'm trying to return this laptop to its (computer illiterate) owner soon. can anyone thing of another option I could try?14:42
MonkeyDustHovercross  is that a server? if yes, try and ask in #ubuntu-server14:42
HovercrossOk, thanks14:42
Hovercrossand yes14:42
pilneare there alternate drivers availiable jws?14:46
jwsWhere would I look for that?14:46
pilneadditional drivers14:47
craptalkdo you think choosing career on linux giving a promising future?14:47
MonkeyDustcraptalk  #ubuntu-offtopic14:48
alkisgjws, which ubuntu version?14:48
jws14.04.4 (installed 12.something from CD rum then upgraded since did not boot from USB)14:49
bekksjws: Which 12.x was it?14:49
alkisg14.04 has a number of different xorg stacks, like -vivid or -wily, you might want to try those. Although maybe 12.04.1 could be more stable for your laptop :)14:50
bekks!hwe | alkisg14:50
ubottualkisg: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack14:50
craptalkhere is my question, i got duplicated package when i run sudo update, and i removed some similiar name on /etc/apt/sources.list.d , but now i have failed to fetch ppa.launchpad or something?14:50
alkisgbekks: you sure that was for me? :)14:50
jwsbekks 12.04 32-bit14:50
bekksalkisg: Yes :) Since those differen stacks have a meaning ;)14:50
bekksjws: And then you updated to 14.04 directly?14:51
alkisgbekks: I already know how to install those; maybe jws could use that link though :)14:51
jwsbekks yes. (ubuntu asked me to do that, over wired internet connection). still looking for the driver install options.14:52
bekksjws: For which driver install options?14:52
pilneit is usually just called "additional drivers" in any ubuntu i've tried14:53
pilnewhat DE are you currently using? unity?14:53
jwsbekks it's a Dutch Ubuntu. I just found that the "non-free drivers" option is enabled in the software centre.14:54
pilnethat doesn't mean they are installed though14:54
bekksjws: non.free drivers for what?14:54
pilnejws is having issues regarding an older ATI card i think14:54
bekksThats what he said - but we dont know which drivers he is talking about.14:55
jwsyes ATI. software centre reprts "no non-free drivers in use"14:55
alkisgjws, what pilne means is for you to run "software-properties-gtk" and to switch to the last tab and see if it has drivers available there14:55
BdayboyI still cant install lubuntu alongside windows 1014:56
alkisgWhy not?14:56
BdayboyI14:56
JamesT1995Bdayboy: describe the issue a little bit more into detail thanks14:56
MonkeyDustBdayboy  start from the beginning, what have you tried so far and what goes wrong14:56
jwsalksig, that's the same tab I was looking at. there are no extra drivers available (translated from Dutch). when I don't use nomodeset, graphics is fast, but boot hangs/erros very often.14:58
alkisgjws, the ltsenablementstack page has instructions on how to install different xorg versions14:58
bekksjws: So which driver are you using currently, having which specific hardware?14:59
BdayboyOn a cold night, my laptop shows it can install lubuntu alongside windows 10 but sadly I didnt do it exactly that night14:59
bekksBdayboy: Why not?14:59
BdayboyI slept accidently14:59
bekksBdayboy: State the issue, dont tell us about long cold winter nights.14:59
pantatoquit15:00
k1l_Bdayboy: that has nothting to do with you falling asleep.15:00
BdayboyThe next day, I couldnt find the option to install lubuntu alongside windows 1015:00
ash_i just set up xubuntu on a vm :D i think im gona use it as my main os when i get my new pc15:00
JamesT1995ash_: great :-) I actually started out with xubuntu as well :-)15:00
pilneme as well, but i'm currently far more content with ubuntu-gnome15:01
BdayboyI already like shut down windows 10 completely. Then tried to install lubuntu but still there is no option to install lubuntu alongside windows 10 anymore15:01
ash_JamesT1995, nice im useing xubuntu cus it looks the nicest15:01
dillon_ok guys I need some more help I googled how to format a usb drive and I followed the instructions, step by step, and it said that you'll get this message "xxxxxxxxxxxx" and I got it but under disks it still shows that debian is still on it and I need it for storage now15:01
pilneis it still labeled debian, or loaded with debian?15:02
jwsbekks lspci: AMD/ATI RC410M Mobility Readon Xpress 200M15:02
bekksjws: And which driver are you using?15:02
dillon_loaded with debian because under disks you can see the partitions15:02
MonkeyDustBdayboy  what do you see then, show us a screenshot if you can't describe it   http://imgur.com/15:03
Bdayboyhow can I possibly get only option to erase disk and install lubuntu, deleting windows 1015:03
Bdayboywhen I can obviously see it can be done the day before15:04
k1l_Bdayboy: turn off the fake restart of the windows disks15:04
Bdayboyk1l_: can you explain15:04
jwsbekks I don't know. lshw -c video does not list "driver" after configuration.15:05
ash_bye guys ill hang ou here more when i get my new pc soon15:05
bekksjws: Look at lspci -k then.15:05
ash_out*15:05
k1l_Bdayboy: http://www.windows10update.com/2015/05/windows-10-tutorials-66-how-to-enable-or-disable-fast-startup/15:05
BdayboyAm I paranoid or I am being spied. Good question.15:06
MonkeyDustBdayboy  you're paranoid15:06
dillon_pilne you still see the debian partitions and this is what I put into terminal sudo mkfs.vfat -I /dev/sdc2 and then I get this message: mkfs.fat 3.0.28 (2015-05-16) am I doing something wrong? or what do I need to do to get this formated becuase I have two unusable flash drives now15:06
BdayboyMonkeyDust: I have a feeling you have not seen the facts15:07
jwsbekks lspci -k does not list a kernel driver for "vga compatible controller"15:07
Bdayboyis spying impossible? online surveillance15:07
k1l_Bdayboy: this channel is not for trolling15:08
pilnedillon, have you tried using dd to overwrite the whole disk to null first?15:08
bekksjws: Can you please put the entire output in a pastebin?15:08
pilnedillon_:: despite the strange name of the page, give this a read: http://www.noah.org/wiki/Dd_-_Destroyer_of_Disks15:09
hwpplayer1hi friends , do you use any commercial ubuntu service15:09
BdayboyI seriously think someone is spying on ONLY my online activities.15:10
bekkshwpplayer1: Whats the actual intention of your question?15:10
bekksBdayboy: Thats not related to Ubuntu.15:10
k1l_Bdayboy: stick to technical ubuntu support in here15:10
hwpplayer1which service should i use first , for example a virtual machine , i saw that it was cheap15:10
bekkshwpplayer1: Which services do you need?15:11
BdayboyI know someone in here who hacks into government page. Hes an admin15:11
BdayboyI know his nickname15:11
bekksBdayboy: Thats not related to Ubuntu.15:11
hwpplayer1a simple virtual machine like on my computer is fine15:11
bekkshwpplayer1: I guess there are thousands of hosters out there?15:12
MonkeyDustBdayboy  you're in the wrong channel for that sort of questions15:12
hwpplayer1i want to see how ubuntu / canonical will help me15:12
bekkshwpplayer1: Contact them, and ask them.15:12
bekkshwpplayer1: They will tell you how, when and why they will help you, and they will tell you how much they will be billing.15:13
k1l_hwpplayer1: ubuntu doesnt offer commercial support. that is done by canonical. you can ask them if you have questions about the support contracts. this in here is only volunteers support.15:13
MonkeyDusthwpplayer1  is this useful http://www.canonical.com/services15:13
hwpplayer1Thanks for all information15:14
hwpplayer1I've contacted with a canonical sales engineer , i'll talk with her in 6 months15:14
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bekkshwpplayer1: MAybe just write a mail to canonical today.15:16
sefaipls i have problem in paltak15:17
bekks!info paltak15:17
dillon_pilne I tried that website and I couldn't get terminal to do anything basically what i need to is create a Windows Bootable usb15:17
ubottuPackage paltak does not exist in wily15:17
bekkssefai: What is paltak?15:17
pilnefirst you said you just needed it for storage, now it has to be a bootable cd? i'm confused15:17
sefaipaltalk15:17
sefaii instal him but no work15:18
bekks!info paltalk15:18
dillon_pilne if I can get back into windows then I can get them back to storage devices15:18
ubottuPackage paltalk does not exist in wily15:18
bekkssefai: What is paltalk?15:18
sefaipaltalk massenger15:19
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k1l_sefai: seems like that is closed source software. so you might need to ask the one who made that program15:19
sefaiok thx15:20
sefai:)15:20
craptalkis safari only available using such emulator in linux?15:20
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MonkeyDust!find safari15:22
ubottuFile safari found in awstats, dotlrn, eric, gbrowse, kde-baseapps-data, kio, libscrappy-perl, linkchecker, octopussy, openacs (and 10 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=safari&mode=&suite=wily&arch=any15:22
mach321is this a freenode channel15:24
MonkeyDustmach321  yes15:25
mach321well you guys couldnt solve my problem because this is me again15:25
mach321how is Anonymous doing now15:26
mach321yes, you, you are one of the hackers15:27
pi__gaaaay15:29
pi__hallo?15:29
nicomachushi15:32
logikosI need help with user and group permissions (i think) i have a symlink in /var/www to ~/public_html and i can execute ~/public_html/index.php  from browser just fine.  however php can not edit files in ~/public_html even though i set umask to 0002 (both in system and via php), all files and folders in ~/public_html/ have write bit for group on, and i did sudo usermod -a -G logikos www-data...15:41
logikos...AND sudo usermod -a -G www-data logikos15:41
logikosif from php i try to do touch('test'); i get a permission error .. so www-data can not create the file....15:41
logikosi'm not sure how to troubleshoot this from here....15:41
logikosif from php i do echo exec('whoami') i get www-data15:42
MonkeyDustlogikos   is that a server? if yes, try and ask in #ubuntu-server15:43
mattkimmoving mouse cursor with keypad is too slow, Could you guys tell me how to fix this?15:43
logikosMonkeyDust: i just did sudo apt-get install lamp-server^  from workstation version of ubuntu .. but it would still be a server although not public, its just for local dev.15:45
logikosbut ok15:45
MonkeyDustmattkim  in dconf-editor:  org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.touchpad15:46
mattkimMonkeyDust: thanks. I will give it a try15:47
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mattkimMonkeyDust: Has no touchpad in dconf-editor..15:51
MonkeyDustmattkim  then look in   org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals15:52
mattkimMonkeyDust: okay hang on15:55
mattkimMonkeyDust: just has input-devices, keyboard, mouse, smartcard, touchscreen. no touchpad :)15:56
mattkimMonkeyDust: I googled about that problem, No one can solve this, thanks anyway :)15:56
mattkimMonkeyDust: I've just found "touchpad" in desktop in dconf-editor and then I adjusted speed, but it doesn't work :)16:02
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HackanatronBonjour à toutes et tous16:10
daftykinsEnglish only, please16:10
daftykins!fr16:10
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.16:10
Hackanatronso sorry, don't read that16:10
Hackanatronso sorry, i miss my channel16:11
Hackanatronhave a nice day16:11
ghrI want to install Ubuntu but use i3 window manager. Am I better off installing something like Lu/Xubuntu and then i3, Ubuntu, or does it make no difference?16:13
k1l_ghr: you can even install a minimal version and then install the desktop stuff you like16:13
daftykinseven better would be to install server, or from mini.iso16:13
k1l_ghr: or install a regular desktop. add the i3 after first boot. then choose the i3 on loginscreen.16:14
daftykinsthough that would leave a lot of unneeded cruft on the installation16:14
ghrI'm interested in Ubuntu (rather than e.g. Arch) because I want it to "Just Work" as much as possible (e.g. wifi, laptop stuff), so would using Server or the mini iso lose those benefits?16:14
daftykinsusing i3 would lose those benefits based on what i've seen users ask16:15
ghrhah16:15
k1l_the last solution would bring you a working desktop "with everything". but you have some space used then.16:15
k1l_but disk space is not the issue today, imho16:15
fiterHi16:16
daftykinswell another angle to think of is the increased internet connection usage to update those packages that wouldn't be used, but beyond that i agree16:16
LeoDeehey all, I am wondering if someone here knows how to prevent the wifi from shutting off after 5 mins of idling on a trusty release16:16
ghrI have an old macbook air (2gb ram, 64gb ssd), so resource is a bit limited, but I mostly care about the thing working rather than a couple of extra packages installed16:16
daftykinsah so it's a mac as well, i have to say that that to my mind pretty much means nothing Linux will 100% 'just work' for you16:17
ghryeah, its a terrible situation :/16:17
ghrbut the mba is dog slow on OS X. I've been looking at old thinkpads but tbh, I'd rather just buy a brand new one if I find I can work with linux day to day, so want to try it on hardware I already have16:18
ghr"using i3 would lose those benefits" what kind of issues come up out of interest?16:20
ghrdaftykins^16:20
k1l_ghr: some macs need some special work on install. so i would look around what othery did have to do while installing.16:21
daftykinsstandard mobile usability, things you'd expect from a laptop16:21
Delvienuse mate+i3  if you want the benefits of a DE, but the tiling and customization of i316:21
ghryeah I've had a read up on installing on mac; seems fine16:21
daftykinsto be quite honest, i have an old model macbook here (the basic white ones) - even xubuntu doesn't have the right keyboard layout at install, only normal ubuntu with unity does16:21
ghrugh16:21
daftykinsyeah installation *most* of the time is easy, but if you don't use a modern DE, you'll have little quirks like that16:22
daftykinsghr: moreover, i would advise waiting on 16.0416:22
ghrdidn't realise the DE controlled so much of that. Figured ubuntu "core" would fix that kind of stuff16:22
daftykinswell you're welcome to try it out, the Mac pages desperately need more attention - i wrote a guide for the one i did16:22
ghryeah I noticed that was out soon16:22
daftykins!mac16:22
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages16:22
ghrnice!16:22
daftykinsi think it was the 3,1 i did, it sticks out like a sore thumb for being the only one with trusty beside it16:23
ghryeah I have a 3,116:23
ghrhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209602 seems like it covers some good stufff too16:24
daftykinsyou said macbook air though right?16:24
ghryeah16:24
daftykinsas mentioned the 3,1 i have is a white macbook - early intel16:24
daftykinsit has a hilarious flaw where the touchpad under *buntu only works if you lay down an entire thumb segment on the touchpad - finger tips don't work16:25
ghrah yeah; didn't realise they had the same number versions for different models16:25
ghroh, that's rubbish16:25
ghrthis is why I don't use linux day to day :/16:26
daftykinsi think that's only this one though :)16:26
daftykinsyep nor me - life's too short16:26
jwsbekks Sorry, got crazy here with ppl marching in. If you are still there, here are the commands with there full outputs: http://pastebin.com/ba8vdpH416:27
jws(I had to install SSH so I could copy-paste from that machine)16:28
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aris1ls16:31
PenorsaurusHi16:34
PenorsaurusI am haing an issue with my buntu 14.04 server16:34
PenorsaurusI am hosted with OVH and they had a electrical problem16:35
Penorsaurusnow, on boot I get: mounting local filesystem FAILED16:35
PenorsaurusI tried the instructions listed here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361332/ubuntu-13-04-to-13-10-filesystem-check-or-mount-failed16:35
Penorsauruswith no luck16:35
Penorsaurusany suggestions?16:35
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davisonioTried contacting OVH? If they were to blame then they should sort this out for you16:36
Penorsaurusdavisonio, If I can fix it mysel, it would be ideal.16:36
Penorsaurusthey will take forever.16:36
PenorsaurusI can go into rescue mode16:36
Penorsaurusdo you have any s uggestions?16:36
axk4545what is the package name for orage global calendar?16:37
davisonioPenorsaurus: What's the contents of /etc/fstab?16:37
Penorsaurusdavisonio, let me boot into the rescue moe.16:38
davisonioOk16:38
davisonioAlso check what's in /dev16:38
Penorsaurusso nano /etc/fstab right?16:38
bekksPenorsaurus: dont forget sudo16:39
Penorsaurusit'll take a minute or two to reboot to rescue mode.16:39
PenorsaurusI'm logged in as root in rescue mode always.16:39
davisonioaxk4545: It's called evolution. So the package names are evolution and evolution-indicator16:40
Penorsaurusalmost done16:41
Penorsaurushopefully I don't need to reinstall everything16:41
PenorsaurusI migrated to ovh like 2 days ago16:41
Skyriderquick Q.16:41
SkyriderHow large should the boot / root be of ubuntu, if I have the sig of 300gb?16:42
MonkeyDustSkyrider  dpends on what you plan to do with it16:42
Skyriderdesktop / games, software.. the usual.16:42
axk4545davisonio: thanks. is that on xubuntu as well?16:42
Penorsaurusdavisonio,16:42
Penorsaurusok16:42
Penorsaurushere we go16:42
ghrdelvien "use mate+i3" sorry for the slow reply; does that just allow me to use the mate (or gnome or whatever they are) apps because they've been installed? Could I not e.g. start with minimal and then install mate-calculator (or whatever?)16:42
MonkeyDustSkyrider  for me 15gb is enough, but i don't play games16:42
Penorsaurushere is the content of /etc/fstab16:43
Penorsaurushttp://pastebin.com/myyMnegF16:43
Penorsaurusdavisonio,16:43
bekksPenorsaurus: And whats the issue now?16:44
Penorsaurusthe issue is16:44
davisonioaxk4545: Ok, on xubuntu the package is called orage.16:45
Penorsauruson boot I get: mounting local filesystem FAILED16:45
Penorsaurusdue to a power outage at ovh16:45
davisonioPenorsaurus: are /dev/vdb1 /mnt/vdb1 existing?16:45
Penorsaurusdavisonio, what do you mean? If they are there right now?16:45
axk4545davisonio: ok. thank you16:45
SkyriderThat includes software, correct?16:46
Penorsaurusdavisonio, /mnt/vdb1 exists.16:46
davisonioOk16:46
Penorsaurusbut I cannot find the dev one16:46
Penorsaurusthe /mnt/vdb1 has all my stuff in it16:47
MonkeyDustSkyrider  i have a separate /home, for my personal files and settings16:47
Penorsaurusi cannot cd into /dev/vdb116:47
bekksPenorsaurus: You can never cd into a device node.16:47
bekksPenorsaurus: Those arent directories.16:47
Penorsaurusnano then?16:48
bekksPenorsaurus: ls -lha /dev/vdb116:48
halberdis it possible to disable the alt key entirely for gnome?  I never use it for menus but there are several apps I use that need it, except gnome keeps grabbing it16:48
bekksPenorsaurus: No. Use ls.16:48
DaniKittenHello?16:48
Penorsaurusbekks and davisonio that produces: brw-rw---T 1 root disk 254, 17 Mar  5 16:40 /dev/vdb116:48
DaniKittenI'm downloading Ubuntu 14.04 but...16:48
bekksPenorsaurus: So /dev/vdb1 perfectly exists.16:48
Penorsaurusseems like it16:48
DaniKittenIs very slow, will take about three hours to complete16:48
davisonioOk, have you tried running 'mount -a' when in recovery?16:48
Penorsaurusno.16:49
Penorsaurusshould I try it now?16:49
MonkeyDustDaniKitten  wifi or cable?16:49
Lornehey all.. did Chrome browser disappear from ubuntu app store?  I have it on my 14.x system..but setting up new 15.x and can't find it?!16:49
Penorsaurusdavisonio, he steps i tried are the ones here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361332/ubuntu-13-04-to-13-10-filesystem-check-or-mount-failed16:49
MonkeyDust!find chrome16:49
ubottuFound: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome, xserver-xorg-video-openchrome-dbg, chromium-chromedriver, chromium-chromedriver-dbg, oxideqt-chromedriver16:49
PenorsaurusI did mount -a just now16:49
DaniKittenWifi16:50
Penorsaurusand no errors were produced.16:50
Penorsaurusshould I exit rescue mode and try it again?16:50
DaniKittenMonkeyDust: WiFI16:50
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MonkeyDustDaniKitten  try with a normal first, then configure wifi16:50
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jwsbekks, my "Mobility Radeon Xpress 200M"  is listed as supported on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver but the RC410M chipsets isn't listed.16:50
halberdlikeactually I'm fine with alt-tab or alt-` but I don't want gnome to intercept if I just press alt without another key16:50
shazzrLorne: Don't ever think that the Chrome browser has been in repos. Chromium-browser on the other hand...16:50
MonkeyDustDaniKitten  cable is fast"er than wifi16:50
davisonioPenorsaurus, worth a try16:50
DaniKittenI don't have Cable Adapter, only WiFi16:51
ghrLorne looks like you might need to add a PPA http://www.howopensource.com/2011/10/install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-11-10-11-04-10-10-10-04/16:51
halberdbye, restarting16:51
Penorsaurusdavisonio, still the same error16:52
DaniKittenMonkeyDust: I don't have Cable Adapter, only WiFi16:52
Penorsaurus"starting mount file systems on boot : fail"16:52
davisonioDoes it give any additional information?16:52
DaniKitten HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.14.55 i686 ** Distro: Unknown Distro ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270   @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 995.0MiB, 79.8% free ** Disk: Total: 2.5GiB, 53.3% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: PC-Speaker - pcsp ** Ethernet: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8072 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet16:52
DaniKittenController ** Uptime: 1h 47m 4s **16:52
Lorneshazzr : thx... I'm a total newbie - and I got it to work 6 mths ago :)  ...I really only need it for Netflix...any better answer for that now?16:52
Penorsaurusdavisonio, nothing after th at, no.16:52
PenorsaurusI am booting back into rescue mode16:53
Penorsaurusdo you have any other suggestions?16:53
MonkeyDustDaniKitten  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue16:53
Penorsaurusbackup my shit and do a fresh reinstall or what16:53
MonkeyDustPenorsaurus  language16:53
Penorsaurussorry16:53
shazzrLorne: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser16:53
DaniKittenSlacko Puppy Linux16:54
DaniKittenLinux 3.14.5516:54
shazzrLorne: There's a chanche though that Chromium dows not suppert Netflix, but I guess you'll find out.16:54
DaniKitteni686 arch16:54
MonkeyDustDaniKitten  that's not supported here, can't help with that16:54
davisonioLorne, you can download the .deb from https://www.google.com/intl/en-US/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html16:54
Penorsaurusdavisonio, do you have any other suggestions?16:54
davisonioPenorsaurus, sorry I don't have any other suggestions16:54
DaniKittenWell, i'll wait until the download finish16:55
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Lornedavisonio : ok - downloaded and installed from google... but it says I need to run from terminal (?)... in 14.x I have a cool icon I click?!   and HOW do I run from terminal?  (is that sudo google-chrome-stable...?)16:58
Mathisenhello how do i make my ubuntu server not respond on ping ?16:59
davisoniosudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable16:59
davisonioLorne, try following the instructions here- they worked for me http://askubuntu.com/questions/510056/how-to-install-google-chrome17:00
Lornedavisonio ok thx...will follow those...17:00
DeaDSouLHi, what is the most reliable 6TB drive ?17:04
MonkeyDustMathisen  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/disable-ping-response-ubuntu-server/17:05
davisonioDeaDSouL, Western Digital17:05
davisoniosee here for the face-off https://www.backblaze.com/blog/6-tb-hard-drive-face-off/17:06
MathisenMonkeyDust: thx17:06
JamesT1995DeaDSouL: western digital, but why so much capacity?17:06
DeaDSouLdavisonio: according to backblaze WD wasn't that reliable17:06
DeaDSouLJamesT1995: I'm building a NAS box17:07
davisonioFair enough17:07
davisonioYou could ask the folks at #datahoarder17:07
Lornedavisonio ok followed the instructions - and it looked like it worked...BUT superkey search google or chrome finds nothing17:08
davisonioOh I'm not sure why that would happen, hmm17:09
dejavou42how can you see a file's true date/timestamp?17:10
Lorneshazzr : FYI Chromium doesn't support netflix... just tested it :/17:10
dejavou42ie. the timestamp that shows from ls -lah can be spoofed17:10
grapilonHi17:11
thecyclonehey grapilon17:12
grapilonthecyclone: How's the channel doing ?17:13
thecyclonegrapilon: which channel?17:13
grapilonthecyclone: This channel, #ubuntu17:13
ams_I've followed this http://askubuntu.com/questions/610903/how-can-i-create-a-video-file-from-a-set-of-jpg-images to make a video from a bunch of jpegs but the quality is dodgy - goes green and looks all wrong. Anyone know what might be doing wrong with this?17:14
thecyclonenot well! all of us were missing you grapilon17:14
grapilonthecyclone: Really...I thought I was missing out from irc for a short moment17:15
DeaDSouLdavisonio: thanks bro17:15
grapilonthecyclone: So, this is a Support Channel. What kinds of things have people been asking about ?17:16
Lorne2davisonio :  Here's the error I get when I try to start chrome http://pastebin.com/YwhP2Lu117:16
kcpq17:18
davisonioLorne2, try running 'sudo chmod 770 -R ~/.config' in terminal17:19
dejavou42can a file's change time be spoofed? ex. stat file.txt. I know modified can be spoofed, but changed?17:19
Lorne2davisonio : ok ...did that... it did nothing...returned a $ immediatley17:20
davisonioIt doesn't show that it did anything. Try launching chrome again and see if there are errors again17:21
grapilonI've got a question: Is there a channel or website that Ubuntu uses to track specific laptop compatibilities in subsequent Ubuntu releases ?17:21
shazzrLorne: Thought so. Bummer.17:22
Lorne2shazzr : im searching around...seems like there may be a Kodi plugin to support Netflix....17:22
thecyclonegrapilon: you can ask anything from minor bugs in your OS to the little green men from ireland17:23
thecyclonegrapilon: this is a philosophy channel17:23
grapilonthecyclone: Okay, thanks. Is there someone here that can talk about Lenovo Thinkpad laptops ?17:24
squinty!topic17:24
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic17:24
Kira9204Lorne2: Why not simply use Google Chrome?17:25
grapilonI'm running Ubuntu 15.10 on a Lenovo Thinkpad W550s, and was wondering about the battery state/info in the /proc directory17:25
squintygrapilon,  this is the ubuntu support channel.  better to just state your problem than asking "is there anyone...."17:25
grapilonsquinty: Okay, good. Does 15.10 Ubuntu provide battery state and info in the /proc directory ?17:27
grapilonI get the impression that it does not, after setting 15.10 up and traversing to /proc/acpi/battery to look for BAT0 or BAT1, but no luck17:28
flyinprogrammeralright so i must be an idiot... in 15.10 how do you bounce dnsmasq without a system reboot? because there doesn't seem to be a systemd config...17:30
AliShhi. I am feeling confused. after several month working on linux I cant go back to windows. anyone here like me?:)17:30
grapilonAliSh: Right here.17:31
Skyrid3rGreetings all.. Currently using live USB.. was hoping someone could help me out..17:31
Lorne2Kira9204 : I'm having trouble installing Chrome... it looks ok - but search can't find it installed!17:31
AliShI dont know why17:31
Skyrid3rRather confused on the whole partition parts of the installation (wish it would be easier)17:31
davisonioThere's no Unix in Windows, that's why17:31
Lorne2Kira9204 : http://pastebin.com/YwhP2Lu117:31
grapilonAliSh: It's more fun to use a command line than pointing and clicking to type a letter/message17:32
AliShI am .net developer but after this experiences I wanna java job17:32
davisonioI can't live without Unix so stick to Linux/OS X17:32
grapilonSkyrid3r: ask your live USB question17:32
Skyrid3rI know, I know.. wasn't around to ask it right away :p17:32
axk4545davisonio: is chromeos acceptable?17:32
Skyrid3rI have 2 unallocated space, one of 200gb, one of 86GB.17:33
grapilonAliSh: Have you tried Sourceforge or Meetup for Java jobs ?17:33
AliShni. I am in iran and that way is so hard17:33
Skyrid3rHow do I make it so it'll install (with swap) using 200GB as home, and 86GB mixed with swap/boot.17:33
davisonioaxk4545, I haven't used it personally but it seems more suited to people who only browse the web in my opinion17:34
Kira9204Lorne2: How did you install it? Simple double click on deb?17:34
grapilonAliSh: Just make a trip to London, if you can. I know this medical Dr. who was born in Iran, parents sent him to medical school in London, and he learned English enough to travel to the US and apply for a job17:34
Kira9204that is quite a werd permissions issue17:35
axk4545davisonio: that seems to be true from my experience. I got one and I am going to try to have it single boot pure Linux. Hopefully it works17:35
ubuntu683hi, im trying to install ubuntu 15.10 alongside a machine preinstalled with windows 10 so I can dual boot,  Windows seems to have a gpt partition  and the ubuntu installer doesn't detect windows 10 when i try to install,   is there some fix for this without remove and reinstalling windows 10 with and MBR partition or something17:36
AliShgrapilon. I am trying but I havent enough miney. therefore I am trying to show my programming power17:36
Lorne2Kira9204 Yes - from google downloads...it opened itself into the App installer...and the final screen said it was installed and needed to be opened from Terminal.  When I try - I get the above errors17:36
grapilonSkyrid3r: What's your deployment language or script ? Are you going to automate the install ?17:37
grapilonAliSh: How about India ? Lots of tech and entrepreneur ops there17:37
Skyrid3rgrapilon: Dunno about automation.... Its saying which partition's it'll use, with no name just a number...17:37
Skyrid3rWhich is VERY confusing.17:37
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AliShI should try.17:38
grapilonSkyrid3r: Are you using parted/gparted or a partitioning program ?17:39
Skyrid3rCurrently both live installation partition manager & gparted..17:40
ubuntu683hi, im trying to install ubuntu 15.10 alongside a machine preinstalled with windows 10 so I can dual boot,  Windows seems to have a gpt partition  and the ubuntu installer doesn't detect windows 10 when i try to install,   is there some fix for this without remove and reinstalling windows 10 with and MBR partition or something17:40
grapilonSkyrid3r: Is this to install 15.10, or something else ?17:40
Skyrid3r14.0417:40
Skyrid3rWindows is also installed.17:40
Skyrid3rReally wish this partiton manager for installation was easier.17:41
grapilonSkyrid3r: Oh, so you're dual booting your pc, right ?17:41
Skyrid3rIndeed17:41
Skyrid3rInstallation type is also very slow to load on live :p17:41
grapilonSkyrid3r: I started out with Windows, went to Disk Management, and allocated space from the Win partition to separate chunked partitions17:42
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ubuntu683Help,  ubuntu installer wont detect preinstalled windows 10 during installation17:42
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grapilonSkyrid3r: You don't need to fomat the partitions, but Linux/Ubuntu installer has to be able to see the part.s to install to them. You got this far, yes ?17:43
Skyrid3rYa.. its seeing the unlocated partitions17:43
Skyrid3rBut I'm having a hard time splitting them or setting them because there can only be a max amount of primary partitions.17:44
Skyrid3rI can't set logical nor extended.17:44
Kira9204Lorne2: Since your home directory's permissions seems out of place, run the following: "sudo chown -R colin:colin ~" and try again17:44
axk4545is this an ok place to ask about ubuntu on chromebooks?17:44
grapilonSkyrid3r: Are you using four physical part.s or more ?17:44
Skyrid3rWhat is / installation type btw? everything, including home?17:45
Skyrid3r** mount point17:45
Kira9204Skyrid3r: / is system root17:45
Lorne2Kira9204  : SUCCESS!!!!17:45
Skyrid3rI am aware, just curious if /home is included in /17:45
Kira9204Skyrid3r: yes17:45
Skyrid3rNot sure what I should use for root / installation, etc.17:45
Skyrid3r** software package, etc.17:45
MonkeyDustSkyrid3r  max 4 primary partitions, that's correct17:45
Lorne2Kira9204  : OK that was so awesome - it borders on magical... thx17:45
grapilonSkyrid3r: / is just the root level directory, /home needs to be created if you don't want to do the easy install, or need a specific size for /home17:46
Skyrid3rI currently have selected SWAP & /home17:46
ubuntu683it magically detected it17:46
Kira9204Skyrid3r: In Linux, everything is a "file" relative to the system root (top) level directory17:46
Skyrid3rNot sure what I should select for the linux itself as mount point.17:46
MonkeyDustSkyrid3r  sda1 for / ... sda2 for /home ... /sda3 for swap17:47
Kira9204Skyrid3r: so you home is in /home/username, various mounts like USB memory cards can be found in /media17:47
Kira9204and so on17:47
grapilonSkyrid3r: You're not trying to create an Ubuntu Virtual Machine (VM) right ?17:47
Skyrid3rI am not, nope :)17:47
DaniKittenThe dowload for ubuntu 14.04 failed17:47
DaniKittenI'll try with 12.0417:48
Skyrid3rSDA4 = swap, SDA3 =  EXT4 / and SDA7= EXT /home17:48
grapilonDaniKitten: What hardware are you using ?17:48
Skyrid3r**EXT4, sorry.17:48
DaniKittenA broadcom WiFi controller17:48
Skyrid3rI think this should be right ^^17:48
DaniKittenI'll try with and older (and smallest) ubuntu distro17:49
MonkeyDustSkyrid3r  sda1-4 is primary ... sda5 and higher is extended17:49
grapilonDaniKitten: What is your goal as far as Ubuntu Linux is concerned...a desktop or a server (or something else) ?17:49
Skyrid3rTell that to partition managers.17:49
Skyrid3rheh17:49
b100shi2all17:50
Skyrid3rSDA1 = ntfs, windows partition (boot).. sda2 does not exist.17:50
DaniKittendesktop (is a laptop my PC)+17:50
Skyrid3r5 & 6 are also ntfs.17:50
b100sdoes someone use CounterStrike 1.6 on ubuntu ? : D i watn to remember my childhood but what is the best way to install it?17:50
DaniKittengrapilon: My laptop is a desktop PC?17:50
grapilonDaniKitten: What CPU, Mem, HDD, graphics card are you using ?17:50
DaniKitten HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.14.55 i686 ** Distro: Unknown Distro ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270   @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 995.0MiB, 75.7% free ** Disk: Total: 2.5GiB, 56.0% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: PC-Speaker - pcsp ** Ethernet: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8072 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet17:51
DaniKittenController ** Uptime: 2h 45m 26s **17:51
mojtabaIs there anything like crouton for ubuntu?17:51
DaniKittenI'm using an SD Card for booting17:51
DaniKittenand saving everything I download17:51
grapilonDaniKitten: Is the CPU in 64-bit or 32-bit ?17:52
mojtabaI am looking for a simple solution to create chroot environment.17:52
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mojtaba(newbie)17:52
DaniKitten32-bit17:52
grapilonDaniKitten: Looking up Intel Atom n270...17:53
grapilonDaniKitten: Did you already try 15.10 32-bit install ?17:54
DaniKittenno, I think will be greater17:54
DaniKittenI will download an older Ubuntu17:54
DaniKitten12.04.517:55
DaniKittengraphilon: Will be grater, will late more to download17:55
DaniKittengraphilon: I'll try with 12.04 precise pangolin17:55
grapilonDaniKitten: Depending on your CPU and mem sizes, the more newer they are, the later the distro and better support will be the case17:55
DaniKittenyes17:56
MonkeyDustmojtaba  to create a simple chroot, paste this in a terminal ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15296009/17:56
DaniKittenI'll burn to DVD and then I'll install to my SD Card17:56
mojtabaMonkeyDust: thanks17:57
grapilonDaniKitten: You can also run Ubuntu on a flash drive, to keep it separate from the computer's hdd...but it's more complicated an install17:57
SomeGuy0011Anyone else having issues with realtek rtl8723be?17:57
MonkeyDustSomeGuy0011  that's a yes/no question17:57
DaniKittengrapilon: Yes, but is my only wat17:57
grapilonDaniKitten: 12.04 is a fairly good distro for your PC, but may not be fully graphical...you may need to run only init 3 versus init 517:58
DaniKittengrapilon: Well, graphical is not my first goal17:59
SomeGuy0011MonkeyDust Mine seems to be very problematic. I downloaded the new drivers from the github repo and executed "sudo echo "options rtl8723be ant_sel=2" > /etc/modprobe.d/50-rtl8723be.conf" but to no avail. My range is extremely poor. My router is about 2 metres away and it can't even find it.18:00
grapilonDaniKitten: So your choices might lie best in a cmd-line, init 3 level, or...running as a non-graphical Linux, but with system support for various programs that MIGHT be graphically available, such as gparted18:00
grapilonDaniKitten: My Lenovo Thinkpad W550s runs init 5, a graphical Ubuntu Linux, for 15.10 (laptop is a 2015 model)18:02
DaniKittengrapilon: Both will be fine18:02
DaniKittenYes18:02
DaniKittenYour laptop is too new, my laptop is HP 2140, from 200918:02
grapilonDaniKitten: 12.04 might work. What was your graphics card ?18:02
DaniKittenI don't known, must be SoundBlaster compatible, Intel(R)18:03
grapilonDaniKitten: I found that most 2009 PCs can run graphical Ubuntu 12.0418:03
DaniKittenOn the BIOS I can't find info. about my sound card18:04
Kira9204why not 14 or 15?18:04
MonkeyDustDaniKitten  my laptop is from 2009 too, works fine with 14.0418:04
Kira9204if anything the hardware support is better18:04
grapilonDaniKitten: What's the BIOS version and make ?18:04
DaniKittenHP, version 1.0, not compatible with APM Version 1.118:04
grapilonDaniKitten: Looking up HP version 1.0...18:05
grapilonDaniKitten: Ugh, I forgot about HP PCs...Is your BIOS something other than AMI, Phoenix, or Award ? HP, version 1.0 ?18:06
DaniKittenYes, is a laptop, It doesn't say if is AMI or Award or Phoenix18:07
DaniKittenjust HP18:07
DaniKittenHewlett-Packard18:07
grapilonDaniKitten: It could be an in-house BIOS, which sometimes is a pain to update/upgrade18:08
DaniKittenyes18:08
DaniKittenI've never update18:08
grapilonDaniKitten: Yeah, so you need to research updating your BIOS, if you cannot load Linux up properly. I'll go check on 12.04 and see if this is still under an LTS. It was a 2010 release, though18:09
DaniKittenBut my laptop is obsolete18:10
DaniKittenI can't found updates for my BIOS18:10
DaniKittenfrom HP website18:10
MonkeyDustDaniKitten  pastebin the output of  sudo dmidecode --type 2     http://paste.ubuntu.com/18:12
DaniKittenWhy?18:12
grapilonDaniKitten: Hmm, indeed. However, the 12.04 is your best bet, since your system is a 2009. What do you plan to do, update your BIOS, d/l 12.04, and/or run a non-graphical Ubuntu Linux ?18:12
DaniKittenNothing, I'll try with older Ubuntu until I can run properly18:13
grapilonDaniKitten: Ubuntu's lead time is about six months before a graphical Linux setup is available. So if your plan is to run any init level Linux, a 2010 Linux version (x86, x86_32 or similar) is ideal18:15
DaniKittenI'll try18:16
grapilonDaniKitten: Good luck, and happy weekend to you !18:16
gagaliciousi saw gtar in mac, what's ubuntu equivalent of gtar?18:17
MonkeyDustgagalicious  what's gtar?18:17
MonkeyDust!tar18:17
ubottuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression18:17
jki hve hp 1301 au 2.5gb ram andihave instaled ubantu 14.04 dual but with win 7 now on startup it get hand even i have chnage grub ro to rw18:17
DaniKittengrapilon: also for you18:18
grapilonDaniKitten: Thanks !18:18
grapilongagalicious: If you're referring to Gnu Tape Archiver, that's what Linux has18:19
grapilonHi, those who just joined #ubuntu18:22
DaniKittenHello18:23
nickanonI am not able to add ppa via terminal. when I type command to add ppa it gets struck for an hour. What should I do?18:23
alkisgnickanon: what command are you using?18:24
grapilonnickanon: What is ppa ?18:24
nickanonsudo add-apt-repository ppa:numix/ppa18:24
MonkeyDustgrapilon  a ppa is an external software source18:24
alkisgnickanon: does this return anything? env|grep proxy18:24
nickanonnothing18:25
nickanonit just gets struck. No response18:25
grapilonnickanon: Thanx18:25
delt_Hello18:25
delt_what's a good sheet music editor to create musical partitions?18:25
MonkeyDustdelt_  better ask in #ubuntustudio18:26
delt_MonkeyDust: yeah probably...thanks18:26
alkisgnickanon: can you add other PPAs?18:26
nickanonnope.. I tried18:26
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mojtabaMonkeyDust: how can I destroy the chroot environment?18:26
MonkeyDustmojtaba  moment...18:27
MonkeyDustmojtaba  sudo umount /var/chroot/proc; sudo rm -r /var/chroot18:27
grapilondelt: There are three such apps/programs: uw@unaffiliated/cliluw) has joined channel #ubuntu18:27
grapilon> Skyrid3r: What's your deployment language or script ? Are you going to automate the18:27
grapilon  install ?18:27
grapilon*** malachi (~malachi@cpe-74-74-105-174.stny.res.rr.com) has joined channel #ubuntu18:27
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mojtabaMonkeyDust: thanks18:28
grapilonWhoops, sorry for the flood18:28
deltgrapilon: wuh?18:28
MonkeyDustgrapilon  next time, use a !pastebin18:28
alkisgnickanon: what does this tell you?  apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0F164EE18:28
grapilondelt: Try this link: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/305618:28
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alkisgsudo18:28
nickanonlol.. it started working... Dont know what was wrong with it18:28
deltgrapilon: thanks18:28
vilitaltti /quit18:29
grapilondelt: yw18:29
grapilonMonkeyDust: Fair enough, pastebin works :)18:30
deltgrapilon: uh that's from like 20 years ago :D18:30
delti had just started using linux by then hehe18:30
grapilondelt: Well, I didn't mention the date, did I ;)18:30
alkisgdelt, rosegarden last release was on 26th of february18:31
deltalkisg: might be worth looking into, thanks again18:31
craptalki had problem failed to fetch ppa something when i ran sudo apt-get update, and somehow i got this command to fix it, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf , did i remove everything on the list dir?18:31
alkisgYes but they're recreated on the next apt-get update18:32
deltheh i didn't even have rosegarden installed on this mint system...how the hell did i survive all these months without it :D18:32
MonkeyDustdelt  mint is not supported here18:32
deltMonkeyDust: but it is a derivative of ubuntu, right?18:32
MonkeyDust!mint | delt18:33
ubottudelt: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org18:33
deltah ok, thanks for the info.18:33
grapilondelt: I found some more links at LinuxLinks.com. There's also Lilypond, Musescore, Denemo, TuxGuitar, Impro-Visor, Frescobaldi, and Canorus18:33
deltgrapilon: thanks again, i think i have used musescore in the past, but had a few problems with it18:34
R13oseHow do I copy files from command line to a windows machine?  I have tried a number of ways but they are failing.18:34
grapilonR13ose: Are you dual booting Linux and Windows ?18:34
deltgrapilon: and tuxguitar works "kind of" ok for piano if you invent a guitar with 130 frets and 40 strings :D18:34
villabHi, I just installed Ubuntu on a new system.  During the install I tried to find a way to encrypt all the predefined partitions except boot and windows.  I was unable to find a way to do this.  There only seems to be options for 'all' or nothing, with the option to encrypt to /home?  Am I just missing something?18:34
R13osegrapilon: two different machines on the same network18:35
grapilondelt: Is that what they call a Mandolin ?18:35
delthaha18:35
deltmandolin has 4 strings18:35
delttuned like a violin in fact18:35
grapilonR13ose: Easiest way, I think, is to use a flash or thumb drive18:35
deltwell, 4 pairs of strings to be exact18:35
R13osegrapilon: I don't have one large enough at the moment.18:36
alkisgR13ose: one easy way is to install openssh-server in linux, and use filezilla+sftp on windows18:36
deltok, thanks for all the info guys!18:36
grapilondelt: Okay. There was a stringed instrument in a YouTube video I saw, and it sounded almost like a plucked cello. It was a school in the Philippines18:36
alkisgR13ose: Why does it need to be command line?18:36
R13osealkisg: that seems GUI when I am using command line.18:37
R13osealkisg: because I can't boot into GUI18:37
alkisgR13ose: its' gui on the windows side only18:37
grapilonR13ose: What size of files are you looking to copy ?18:37
alkisgIt's command line on the linux side18:37
DaniKittenNo18:37
R13osethe total directory is 18.8GB18:37
R13oseI am using a liveusb and the openssh-server is not a command there and not sure I can install18:38
alkisgR13ose: sudo apt-get install openssh-server on linux, and download filezilla portable on windows. No gui needed on linux. But of course you could also do it via smbclient or via a linux live cd18:38
stegbthHi18:38
stegbthi found an old Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server18:38
grapilonR13ose: As an aside, if you have a USB 3.0 port, the transfer will be a bit faster18:39
alkisgR13ose: a liveusb without GUI and without the ability to install software? Why don't you use an ubuntu live stick?18:39
MonkeyDuststegbth  10.04 is !eol18:39
ubuntu789Hi,  I'm trying to configure my wireless driver in Ubuntu,  I know my card is a Qualcomm atheros,  but I am not sure exactly which model,  how can I go about finding this out?18:39
grapilonstegbth: That is worthy of a museum piece :)18:39
stegbthwhen i try to "do-release-upgrade" it hangs at some missing packages and screen ends18:39
R13osemy usbkey is only 120MB18:39
stegbthi know this eol18:39
MonkeyDust!eolupgrade | stegbth18:40
ubottustegbth: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:40
alkisgR13ose: and you're sure you can't just apt-get install openssh-server while it's running?18:40
stegbtha time ago18:40
grapilonubuntu789: Have you looked it up in /proc ?18:40
squintystegbth,  i would lose it again.  no support   which explains the problems you are facing18:40
ubuntu789grapilon:  I'm not too familiar with linux18:40
ubuntu789grapilon:  not sure what you mean18:40
stegbthsquinty, i am here cause there are upgrade problems. i on the way to upgrade18:41
MonkeyDust!wifi | ubuntu789 start here18:41
ubottuubuntu789 start here: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:41
piglitwhat is a good command to see what kind of pc belongs to a certain IP ?18:41
stegbthubottu, thanks i will try18:41
ubottustegbth: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:41
grapilonubuntu789: If Linux has found the Qualcomm Atheros card/device, there will be an entry in /proc that might denote "Qualcomm", "Atheros", or similar18:41
ubuntu789grapilon:  I've successfully installed broadcom drivers,  I know how to go about installing them,   but it just says qualcomm atheros no exact model number i just want to be sure i install the right thing thats all but thanks I will read18:42
grapilonpiglit: Have you tried netstat ?18:42
R13osealkisg: I can't and read that tce-load might be the command to use but when I do tce-load -wi openssh-server nothing happens.18:43
grapilonubuntu789: You can traverse the /proc directory. This is the cmd-line version of yast18:43
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ubuntu789grapilon:  says my card works out of the box,  but it does not18:45
ubuntu789grapilon:  says my card works out of the box actually disregard that18:45
grapsubuntu789: Are you checking for the card in Linux ? Are you using a graphical tool ?18:46
piglit<grapilon> how does it work if i want to know who 192.168.0.02 is ?18:46
grapspiglit: Try "netstat 192.168.0.02"18:46
ubuntu789grapilon:  not sure what you mean,  lspci  only tells me my card is qualcomm atheros, I'm just trying to find the right driver for it so I can install it so my wifi works18:47
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grapsubuntu789: A good method would be to look it up in Windows, if you have dual-booted your PC. Otherwise, is it a separate device from your PC ? Is it plugged in or attached by a cable ?18:48
ubuntu789grapilon:  it's built in card , laptop,  yeah I have dual boot,18:48
piglitgraps: i dont have windows ....18:49
ubuntu789grapilon:  Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042]    is all i can find lol18:49
grapsubuntu789: You've tried searching it in Google/Ixquick ?18:49
ubuntu789grapilon:  been scouring google always before i come to this IRC channel18:50
grapspiglit: netstat provides connected items, sorta like ports, that describe what is connected to your system. If you do a man netstat, you'll get more detalis18:50
grapsdetalis > details18:50
SchrodingersScat!info nmap | piglit18:50
ubottupiglit: nmap (source: nmap): The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 6.47-7 (wily), package size 3678 kB, installed size 17434 kB18:50
ubuntu789grapilon:  think my driver is "ath9k" now18:51
grapsubuntu789: Yeah, I think you've got a lead there. Also, Qualcomm's website...you've checked there ?18:51
piglitgraps: it is not connected to my pc18:52
ubuntu789graps:  yeah well I know my card is qualcomm atheros i just cant seem to get an output for an exact model18:52
hp_Hola18:52
grapspiglit: That's good, I guess ? :) Otherwise, check nmap too18:52
grapshp_: Hola, que tal ?18:53
R13oseAny other thoughts?18:53
ioriaR13ose, about what ?18:53
grapsR13ose: Have you tried Costco or Best Buy for cheaper thumb drives ?18:53
R13oseI might go there18:53
R13oseioria: transferring files over to a windows machine from a live usb key18:54
grapsubuntu789: I'd try to open up the PC and read the card directly, to see if it is printed on the board or fan or something18:54
ioriaR13ose, install an ftp server on win ?18:54
R13oseioria: this is 18.8GB18:54
ioriaR13ose, oh...18:55
ubuntu789graps:  this laptop is gay,  you literally have to take it right apart to get the HDD out,18:55
grapsR13ose: The last time I bought, a 128GB thumb drive at Best Buy was going for $5018:55
ioriaR13ose, well, you can mount with cifs a win folder, and copy the file over it ?18:56
R13oseYes and I will do that but I can't at the moment.18:56
grapsubuntu789: Probably not gay, probably heterosexual ;)18:56
ballisontrying to upgrade my old version of ubuntu and i'm running "do-release-upgrade" and it's just bombing and exiting with the error "Aborting"18:56
R13oseioria: yes but how am I able to see the win folder?18:56
craptalkis 700MB enough for backing up my ubuntu file system?18:56
ubuntu789graps:  well yeah. grrr18:57
craptalkmaking disc image perhaps?18:57
grapscraptalk: Depends on what you're backing up18:57
craptalkgraps: the whole system, so then if something happen i can just put it into my cdRom18:57
craptalkor maybe clonezilla?18:58
ballisongreat pastebin is dead18:58
grapscraptalk: If you have large data files, like .mov or .avi, then you might need a larger backup device/instrument (maybe a thumb drive, 64 or 128 GB)18:58
MonkeyDustballison  http://paste.ubuntu.com/18:58
craptalkgraps: well, i was thinking about putting it into multiple discs, since i have CD-R several pieces here, and 700 MB each18:59
ballisonhttp://hastebin.com/raw/ijivijomit18:59
ballisonthats what happens when i try to do a release upgrade19:00
alkisgR13ose: if you're using tinycorelinux, what are you doing asking for support in #ubuntu?!19:00
ioriaR13ose,  create a folder on win (give permissions or select Public) and sudo mount -t cifs -o username= ,password=  //ip/folder  /home/user/mountpoint19:00
DoverMoi'm getting a whopping 0-35 kb/s from us.archive.ubuntu19:00
DoverMoanyone else?19:00
R13osealkisg: because my system crash was a ubuntu distro19:00
grapscraptalk: Yes, 700MB is good for CD-R/RW discs, but your box or container you keep them in will need to accommodate a lot of discs, and sooner rather than later19:00
craptalkgraps: last time i did it for my windows system, it spitted it out, couldnt continue, dont know why, i thougt i was following its steps19:00
ioriaR13ose,  cifs-utils required19:00
alkisgR13ose: and how are we going to help you install e.g. openssh in tinycorelinux? we know ubuntu, not tinycorelinux...19:00
craptalkgraps: i want to use all of them since i have bought it19:01
R13osealkisg: true, sorry, I will walk away19:01
craptalkgraps: but i failed to do it the last time i tried19:01
R13oseioria: I don't have that19:01
grapscraptalk: Sure, that's fine.19:01
alkisgR13ose: just get an ubuntu live stick19:01
ioriaR13ose,  install it19:01
grapscraptalk: What CD/DVD/Blu-Ray drive do you use ?19:01
R13oseioria: not letting me19:02
DoverMoit could be the storm/rain f**king up wires19:02
ioriaR13ose,  ohh19:02
ballisonAborting19:02
R13osealkisg: is there one ubuntu live stick that is smaller then 120MB?19:02
craptalkgraps: like its brand?19:02
grapscraptalk: Yes19:02
craptalkgraps: how to check it?19:02
craptalkgraps: maybe hitachi something, toshiba maybe?19:02
grapscraptalk: If you can't find it in /proc, then you might have to search for it via /dev or open the PC up19:03
ubuntu789graps:  well... its atheros  168c:0042 (rev 30)19:03
touil76Hello, I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04. My dmesg shows warning from apparmor concerning evince and evince-thumbnailer, both being denied the access to the /usr/local/lib/liblcms2.so.2.0.6 file. Any clue of the cause of this behaviour ?19:03
ballisonis it not possible to upgrade from lucid?19:03
ubuntu789graps:  posts seem to be complicated to get this workign19:03
craptalkgraps: let me see19:03
grapsubuntu789: Have you already tried the Qualcomm site ?19:03
UbuntuDudeeverytime I'm trying to print the default paper size is Letter and I've manually change to A4 on every single hectic printing job ... how to make A4 the default once and forever19:04
UbuntuDude:((19:04
DoverMounable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ wtf19:04
ubuntu789graps:  cant find nothing on there to help me19:04
grapsUbuntuDude: Have you tried tinkering with the printer driver ?19:04
alkisgR13ose: your usb stick is only 120 mb, or does it only have that free space left in it? You could easily move a couple of files e.g. in windows temporarily...19:05
UbuntuDudegraps: nope .. where that is?19:05
ubuntu789graps:  cant find nothing on there to help me19:05
R13osealkisg: that is the same of the usb stick19:05
pilnesometimes i wonder just how people run into these problems... like... what are you poking at to encounter these issues?19:05
ubuntu789graps:  site is useless19:05
grapsubuntu789: Well, yeah, the Q-comm site is rather large. Have you tried in Google "Qualcomm Atheros version description location" ?19:05
DoverMook for some reason apt-get didn't quit19:05
ubuntu789graps:  description location?19:06
ballisonhttp://hastebin.com/raw/ugikicuvid19:06
R13osealkisg: size*19:06
grapsubuntu789: Something like that, or "Atheros version board desc"19:06
ballisonso it's not possible to upgrade from lucid ?19:06
alkisgR13ose: I've never heard of usb sticks of 120MB size19:06
R13osealkisg: I know me either19:07
grapsballison: Is lucid a graphical tool ?19:07
craptalkgraps: i got its vendor info as in ATAPI19:07
alkisgR13ose: well, you could burn a cd then19:07
alkisgOr use mini.iso to install a minimal system19:07
grapsalkisg: Maybe a usb stick of 128 MB19:07
ballisongraps: I thought this channel was for ubuntu19:07
DoverMookay. well i'm only getting 60% of my normal connection, however the us.archive.ubuntu server is only running at about 7% or less of what it could be19:07
R13osealkisg: there is no CD ROM Drive on that machine19:07
ballisondeb http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main universe19:07
ballisonlucid is a version of ubuntu19:08
grapscraptalk: That's the generic19:08
alkisgR13ose: you don't need one there, you can use the livecd on another pc and a one-line netboot script19:08
DoverMoballison, is there a server list?19:08
touil76Nobody for me ?19:08
ballisonDoverMo???19:08
grapsballison: You can upgrade anything. You're good enough, you're smart enough, and dog gone it, people like you19:08
UbuntuDudegraps: oh that is crap idea .. I tried several time on windows as well .. it's seems to be every OS issue .. the default keep comming back to Letter instead of A4 doesn't matter how manytimes I change it from control panel or printer properties19:08
R13osealkisg: can I do that with USB too?19:08
ballisonhttp://hastebin.com/raw/ugikicuvid19:08
alkisgR13ose: I don't know of any proper 120 mb live usb sticks19:08
DoverMoballison, i need a list of servers in the us. us.archive is broke19:08
UbuntuDudee.g. https://files.support.epson.com/htmldocs/r800__/r800__rf/vari_4.htm19:09
squintyubuntu789:  may or may not be of use   http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=305292  see comment #919:09
alkisgWith an 1GB stick, sure19:09
grapsUbuntuDude: Nothing's better than writing your own printer driver19:09
craptalkgraps: so is there any lead to my case? cause i failed to do it into multiple discs?19:09
grapsUbuntuDude: But, I empathize with your plight19:09
R13osealkisg: I do and there are a few.19:09
alkisgR13ose: well, use one with openssh or samba client in it then19:09
DoverMoor i guess mirrors19:10
UbuntuDudegraps: thanks f I don't need your empathy19:10
UbuntuDudegraps: thanks but I don't need your empathy19:10
grapscraptalk: Have you reasearched the method with which you are trying to back up system and data files ?19:10
UbuntuDudeI'm just looking for a permanent solution to this issue19:10
Gallomimiatouil76: note that 12.04 is out of support by now... might be why no one knows the answer19:10
ubuntu827was trying to solve atheros wireless driver problem accidentally logged out forgot who i was talking to19:10
Gallomimia3years on desktop isn't it??19:10
grapsUbuntuDude: Have you tried searching through the printer's website ?19:11
SchrodingersScat!12.0419:11
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is a currently-supported !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120419:11
DoverMoi'll just try out this mirror19:11
Gallomimiaoh it is still. ok19:11
grapsubuntu827: Are you familiar with ubuntu789 ?19:11
craptalkgraps: i was on google all the time, well, maybe i am giving you a vague explanation, anyway will tell you next time if i really having the same thing19:11
ubuntu827graps:   that was me lol19:11
SchrodingersScatGallomimia: I forget if that's before or after they included desktop with server version support.19:11
grapscraptalk: Okay19:11
touil76Thank you Gallomimia.19:12
grapsubuntu827: So, what was it you were trying to do, again ?19:12
Gallomimiayeah. seems it is still within support, but just barely19:12
alkisgtouil76: why do you have a local liblcms2 instead of using the one from ubuntu?19:12
pilnewell with 16.04 on the horizon... yeah19:12
Gallomimiai'm not sure if i'll upgrade to 16.04 any time soon. i'll need to spend some time getting familiar with systemd19:13
ubuntu827graps:   install the driver for my Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 30) so that the wifi card works19:13
grapsGallomimia: Just man that daemon, or look it up in the Internet19:13
craptalkgraps: i have been using linux over a year perhaps, but i think there is more to it than just tweaking or changing some theme, do you know where should i look up to know more about its system? is it even good to know it? since linux giving us permission to know the system19:13
squintyubuntu827:  may or may not be of use   http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=305292  see comment #919:13
DoverMooh yey. this local mirror actually works19:14
grapsubuntu827: Yeah...try looking on Google, or Ixquick, for the wifi card. You may have to update the BIOS, which would be beneficial for Windows, and maybe Linux, if someone's already written a driver to access the card19:14
ubuntu827graps:   k brb19:15
grapscraptalk: Yeah, ubuntu.com and a few other places (maybe linuxlinks.com) can point you in the proper direction19:15
ballisondo-release-upgrade fails for me19:15
ballisonis there something else i should run that replaces do-release-upgrade since do-release-upgrade does not work?19:16
DoverMoballison, whats the fail message19:16
R13osealkisg: I think I got openssh to install on there.  What is the next step?19:16
alkisgR13ose: can you run `ssh user@localhost` ?19:17
alkisgIf yes, then use filezilla on windows to transfer the files19:17
touil76alkisg : No idea.19:17
alkisgtouil76: then remove it from /usr/local19:18
ballisonDoverMo: again --> http://hastebin.com/raw/ugikicuvid19:18
ballisonit's just giving me an "Aborting" at the end.19:18
MonkeyDustgraps  https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public?preview=Ubuntu+Linux+Toolbox.pdf19:19
R13osealkisg: connection is failing but this mean that ssh is installed.19:19
DoverMoballison, the translation mirrors didn't update19:19
touil76When I try to remove it with synaptic, it says it is used by many programs. So I don't want to.19:19
R13osealkisg: I have to setup a filezilla thing on my windows machine?19:20
alkisgR13ose: it's a portable .exe19:20
ballisonDoverMo: what's the mean?19:20
DoverMoballison, it means that apt-get update failed for some reason. try running the command byitself19:20
R13osealkisg: link?19:20
grapsMonkeyDust: I would have to create a Dropbox account, which, I think...I did, a year ago. However, I lost the password ;)19:21
ballisonapt-get update works19:21
alkisgR13ose: i'm sure you'll find it in google, first hit etc19:21
DoverMoballison, it doesn't spit out any warnings?19:21
squintyR13ose, might also want to take a lool at WinSCP (freebie) for windows19:21
ballisonnope.  no errors19:21
R13osealkisg: the client one?19:21
alkisgYup19:21
squintylook that is19:21
grapsMonkeyDust: Thanks for the link. I'll Ixquick it and peruse the toolbox19:22
DoverMoballison, then possibly the mirrors have out of date translation packages19:22
ballisoni'm currently 10.04 trying to go to i guess precise19:22
R13osealkisg: okay I am looking into this.19:22
DoverMooh geez19:22
ballisonDoverMo: Right.  I'm currenlty at lucid.19:22
day2ubuntuis a lxde session different from lubuntu session different from ubuntu session?19:23
ioriaballison, you already read this , right ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:23
day2ubuntufrom login19:23
grapsday2ubuntu: In a word, yes :)19:23
DoverMoballison, okay19:23
ecdheI have windows10 installed and want to dual-boot ubuntu.  With win7, the ubuntu livecd installer gave me the option to "install alongside" windows, but it doesn't seem to recognized it now.19:23
MonkeyDustday2ubuntu  lxde/lubuntu is lighter than unity/ubuntu19:23
grapsday2ubuntu: However, getting more into the session definition, there are similarities19:24
ecdheHow can I get Ubuntu to install grub so that it will start both windows 10 and ubuntu?19:24
MonkeyDustecdhe  not19:24
grapsecdhe: Are you using the Grub2 loader ?19:24
R13osealkisg: okay I have this installed, now what?19:24
DoverMoballison, did you try this? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-from-ubuntu-10-04-via-the-terminal/19:24
MonkeyDustecdhe  you boot one at a time19:24
grapsMonkeyDust: Heh heh19:25
alkisgR13ose: now you use it to connect via sftp to the linux openssh server, and transfer your files19:25
DoverMoballison, replace vi with nano19:25
ecdhegraps, I just have the livecd installer, and I don't want to run it and just wipe out my windows boot partition.19:25
grapsecdhe: I agree, don't wipe out any partitions19:25
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grapsecdhe: Are you familiar with dual booting ?19:26
MonkeyDustecdhe  but they cannot boot simultaneously19:26
ecdheIt seems like with XP, windows had a single, bootable partition.  When ubuntu "installed alongside" it would create a boot (with grub there), a swap, and a root partition, and configure grub to point to windows.19:26
ecdheBut all this happened automatically.19:27
ecdheNow with Win10, it's got its own boot partition.19:27
lusticgraps:   i went through this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2304250   it really seemed like it was going to work but nothing after reboot19:27
lusticgraps:  im the atheros guy19:27
ecdheAnd the livecd installer doesn't seem to recognize it as an OS with which it can coexist.19:27
grapsecdhe: It all happened automagically with two boot options (or more), right ?19:28
ballisonDoverMo: yes i did a google first. :)19:28
UbuntuDudegraps: I'm really wondering what you're trying to do here! are you really trying to help to mock people who asks ubuntu related questions? anyway .. I found the solution and it has ZERO relation with driver, it's all about the ubuntu19:29
lusticIMPOSSIBLE to get my wifi working19:29
grapslustic: Okay. Looking at the thread...19:29
ballisonDoverMo: I think the problem is i have to use "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com" instead19:29
ecdhegraps, the Ubuntu livecd installer would set this up automatically.19:29
craptalkafter i partition some free space for my ubuntu and i just want to rejoin its partition another, but i cant do it, do you know why? i tried to delete the volume but i cant rejoin it to another partition? please help19:29
DoverMoballison, that's what i was thinking. even though 10.04 is technically lts, you might have to use old-releases19:29
grapsUbuntuDude: Sorry about my facetiousness. Anyway, right on, you've solved your problem19:29
lusticgraps:  i tried yours suggested thread but the file requested by wget wouldn't work19:29
ballisonDoverMo:  Nope that bombs out as well.19:30
R13osealkisg: I need to start the server on the linux side first right?19:30
DoverMoballison, how does it bomb19:30
ballisonSo it's not possible to upgrade a lucid ubuntu server?19:30
DoverMosame error?19:30
alkisgR13ose: you first need to make ssh localhost succeed, yes19:30
ballisonDOverMo: same error19:30
Anny#django19:31
DoverMoballison, old-releases SHOULD at the very least upgrade you to the next version up until 13.10. hmm. why not just to apt-get clean to start?19:31
UbuntuDudegraps: Yes and thanks for your useless unrelated questions which helped me to find solutions on my own.19:31
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UbuntuDudeseriously19:31
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grapslustic: Not sure about your Atheros card. Maybe ask the room about your current problem19:31
ballisonDoverMo: Did not work.19:32
grapsUbuntuDude: Well, I'm glad you were able to solve your issue. This would be different if I was being paid to help users in here19:32
UbuntuDudeanyway I'm documenting all these issues in one big log and probably will write some book about it and share online19:32
R13osealkisg: I am getting an error "ssh connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused."  I am trying to do ssh tc@localhost start or with an ip address.19:32
ballisonshould i go change all my sources.list lines from lucid to precise ?19:33
UbuntuDudenoobs need more assistance than just keep asking em what they did or didn't do19:33
alkisgR13ose: I can't help you with tinycorelinux, I'm not using it, try asking it its irc channel, whatever that is19:33
grapsUbuntuDude: Good. Helping people with computer problems is a good thing19:33
R13osealkisg: thanks19:33
lusticwireless hell19:33
DoverMoballison, maybe. do-release-upgrade does that automatically, but maybe it doesnt with 10.0419:33
UbuntuDudegraps: Yes .. I'll try to organize and shape it in a good pdf format before uploading online19:34
ballisonDoverMo: do-release-upgrade is creating a sources.list.distUpgrade, but it's not actually changing the version19:34
grapsUbuntuDude: Now I remember why I keep coming back to irc: It's the people19:34
DoverMoballison, also, did you uncomment partner and extras?19:34
DoverMoballison, that might help19:34
teo_hey19:35
Gallomimiai've heard many bad things about do-release-upgrade19:35
ballisoni don't have partner and extras19:35
Gallomimiai've heard recommendations not to use it. to backup and clean install instead19:35
DoverMoGallomimia, it's a lot better than fedora's methods xD19:35
Gallomimiai figure that since it's not something that gets used often, so it doesn't get many bug reports19:35
ballisonDoverMo: I updated sources.list from lucid to precise.... going to try do-release-upgrade now19:35
MonkeyDusti tried do-release upgrade for testing purposes, it took hours and i had to stay at the pc, to confirm some settings19:36
Gallomimiameasuring yourself by someone else's yardstick is a good way to wind up disappointed all the time.19:36
Gallomimiabut agreed. it's better19:36
Ben64Gallomimia: it works very well unless you have a bunch of PPAs19:36
xanguaballison: do not edit your source list manually19:36
UbuntuDudegraps: same reasons why I keep running away from irc every now and then it's people19:36
DoverMofedoras post-upgrade or yum methods were bollocks19:36
ballisonxangua: before lucid, that's how you would do it.19:37
grapsUbuntuDude: Thank God the cycle comes back full circle. If people could solve their own problems, we'd all be doctors or PhD's19:37
Ben64ballison: pretty sure that was never how to do it19:37
xanguaballison: no19:37
Gallomimiain either case... it's not a simple thing to test. and the best testing comes from regular users reporting errors in strange use-cases19:37
ballisonxangua: do-releases-upgrade does not work for lucid19:38
ballisonis there a solution for this?19:38
grapsUbuntuDude: Have you considered working for a non-profit company ?19:38
ballisonxangua: http://hastebin.com/raw/ugikicuvid19:38
Gallomimiacan you imagine how many system's you'd need to run and rerun constantly to effectively test the do-release-upgrade ?19:38
xangua! Eol | ballison did you follow the instructions?19:38
ubottuballison did you follow the instructions?: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:38
DoverMoballison, did you even try uncommenting those 2 translation mirrors19:39
xanguaIt would also be faster to fresh install a supported release19:39
ballisonDoverMo: no idea what mirrors you are talking about19:39
ballisonDoverMo: when i do a 'apt-get update" i get no errors19:39
DoverMoballison, *picardfacepalm.jpg* the 2 mirrors that are GIVING the errors19:39
ballisonDoverMo: No mirrors are giving any errors19:40
DoverMoballison,Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Translation-en19:40
DoverMoErr http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Translation-en19:40
DoverMoErr http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Translation-en19:40
DoverMoErr http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Translation-en19:40
DoverMokk19:40
MonkeyDustDoverMo  next time, use a pastebin19:40
ballisonwhen i changed to old-releases.ubuntu.com those went away19:41
Ben64your paste doesn't show that19:41
ballisonBen64: updating hastebin now.19:41
ballisonnevermind - I got more errors for old-releases.ubuntu.com  :(19:43
ioriaballison, can you paste  sources.list ?19:43
ballisonsure19:45
* graps looks around19:45
DoverMo10.04 is lts, so it should upgrade without old-release. If the translation mirror, or any mirror is giving an err, it should be uncommented19:45
DoverMobasic logics19:45
ballisonioria: http://hastebin.com/raw/owayaziduz19:45
SchrodingersScat!10.0419:46
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support ended on April 30 2015. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.19:46
DoverMoso uncomment translation-en19:46
ballisonDoverMo: lts or not  it bombs when i do a "do-release-upgrade"19:46
ioriaballison, you 're on lucid now ?  if you run sudo apt-get upgrade   and  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?19:47
MonkeyDustballison  fresh install takes about 15-20 minutes19:47
ballisonDoverMo: I don't know what you mean by "uncomment translation-en"  There is no "translatio-en" in my sources.list.19:47
neyder_hi there, i got this anoying ads with every page I visit from this domain: ww1.searchadredirect.com19:48
grapsneyder_: Are you being forced to go to that page ?19:49
neyder_i'm using firefox 44.0.2 in wily19:49
neyder_graps, it is forced because i write or click a link, page loads but after a second it is redirected to that domain19:50
ballisonDoverMo:  http://hastebin.com/raw/guwuxadele19:50
ballisonDoverMo: What are you telling me to uncomment?19:50
ballisonthere's nothing to uncomment.19:50
grapsneyder_: I did a search on that page with Ixquick, and no web results are found. Maybe it's on a redirection script or command19:51
MonkeyDustneyder_  delete the ~/.cache folder, restart FF ... guess that will solve it19:51
ballisonAnd here's the results of it failing on a "do-release-upgrade"19:52
ballisonhttp://hastebin.com/raw/xupizegowu19:52
grapsMonkeyDust: Do you think neyder_ should also check the hosts file ?19:52
ballisonnotice at the topic it does a "apt-get update" and that works... then it does i don't know what and starts getting ERRs19:52
tsimonq2hmm, this is really weird, all YouTube videos and everything on my system is sped up, it's not only YouTube19:52
ballisonDoverMo: where is it getting Translation-en from ???19:53
ballisoni see on the paste that it did a get and pulled it... but why?19:54
neyder_graps, nothing in hosts two lines 127.0.0.119:54
ballisoni did a recursive grep on /etc/apt looking for TranlationsIndex and got nothing back19:54
ballisonso where is it getting that from?19:54
neyder_graps, common ipv6 lines, and 3 lines at my own19:54
grapsneyder_: Okay, then maybe you could change your landing page when you start the browser19:55
ballison"do-release-upgrade" failing on lucid server --> http://hastebin.com/raw/xupizegowu19:55
neyder_start page is duck duck go19:55
ballisonDoverMo: I don't know where it's getting all the "Translation-en" stuff from... and that's what's breaking it.19:56
grapsneyder_: Okay, then...ww1.searchadredirect.com, is it bothering your web browsing ?19:57
neyder_graps, yup and some times it appears to false adult pages19:58
ballisoni tried this and it did not work either --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/74653/how-can-i-remove-the-translation-entries-in-apt19:58
ioriaballison, can  you run sudo apt-get upgrade   and  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?19:59
neyder_It's weird since it started on my android every time i was reading pages with Feedly,  my app get freezed and only showing adds, the the same got me on desktop with firefox and feedly, and now with any page I visit20:00
SchrodingersScatgreat, you've isolated the problem20:00
neyder_MonkeyDust, it seems that it worked, how do you know20:01
grapsneyder_: Hmm, have you tried MonkeyDust's suggestion already ?20:01
ballisonioria: http://hastebin.com/raw/ukeyafogir20:01
MonkeyDustneyder_  not the first time, some piece of code in a webpage, that's stored in ~/.cache20:01
ballisonioria: nothing to update20:01
neyder_graps, yes, and It seems that worked, clicking on links and old pages that got redirected.20:02
grapsMake a note of it ! Good tip20:02
lusticgraps:  you there20:02
grapslustic: Hi again20:02
lusticgraps:  i am now wireless!20:02
ioriaballison, cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ?20:02
neyder_I'll try to clear cache in feedly and firefox apps in android, it was a painto read news and browins mobile20:02
grapslustic: Congrtulations ! You just needed a little push ;)20:03
neyder_thanks MonkeyDust graps20:03
grapsneyder_: yw20:03
lusticgraps:  in the end i found a simple package all I had to do was run an .sh file in a package   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2281584&page=2&p=13414356&viewfull=1#post13414356   its the first post,  so simple someone made it for me20:03
ballisonioria: http://hastebin.com/raw/umixidipix20:03
lusticgraps:  thanks for all your patience man,  this chat room has helped me countlessss times cause of people like you20:03
grapslustic: Well, don't forget that this is free advice too. Some people expect a lot of things when they have to pay for the information20:04
grapslustic: Teach someone else, pay it forward :)20:04
ioriaballison,  have you tried changing repos  (not the old.relese) ?20:05
ballisonioria: i tried old-release20:05
ballisonbut i shouldn't have to.  should be able to just run "do-release-upgrade"20:05
lusticgraps:  oh I know, i seen someone cursing your name earlier haha,  in my opinion this room is full of highly skilled advice,   yeah I'm not the most technical as most here but I still help if I read something  can help with , anyway im out thanks a lot man!20:05
grapslustic: See you later20:06
ballisonDoverMo: I got no ERR's this time.  I've disabled the Translation-en gets, and so i got no errors and it still bombed on me.20:07
ballisonDoverMo:  http://hastebin.com/raw/huyibugeze20:07
ballisonioraia: http://hastebin.com/raw/huyibugeze  <- that what i get from do-release-upgrade20:07
ioriaballison,   df -H20:09
rakesh71hai20:09
ballisonplenty of space. 13% used20:09
rakesh71clear20:09
grapsrakesh71: Hi20:09
day3ubuntuI opened a .conf file, but when i try to save it won't.  How do I save the changes?20:09
ballisonI got it working20:10
rakesh71with which editor you opened20:10
day3ubuntuI think it defualted "mousepad"20:10
ballisonioria: http://askubuntu.com/questions/425355/error-authenticating-some-packages-while-upgrade20:10
MonkeyDustday3ubuntu  and in which folder? for anything outside /home, you need sudo20:10
day3ubuntucan I sudo from an editor to save?20:11
ioriaballison,  ^*^20:11
ioriaballison,  omg20:11
* graps thinks it's high time to leave20:12
MonkeyDustday3ubuntu  use gksu for gui programs ... eg: gksu gedit [file]20:12
ioriaballison,  "don't do this unless you know what you are doing"20:12
day3ubuntumonkeydust it is a /usr/share file20:12
grapsAll right all, it's been fun, and a bit scary too ! See you all later20:13
Saeidhi, i use this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee and install nvidia-319 but can't use optirun and lsmod | grep nvidia don't get me any output plz help me20:13
ihmSelbst_hi all20:13
Saeidhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15298566/20:13
mattkimhi20:13
MonkeyDustday3ubuntu  ok, in a terminal, type   gksu /usr/share/[filename]20:14
MonkeyDustday3ubuntu  or sudo -e /usr/share/[filename]   to edit in terminal20:15
ballisonioria: It's working now.  I had to use these two pages to get through the errors:20:15
ballisonhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/74653/how-can-i-remove-the-translation-entries-in-apt20:15
ballison http://askubuntu.com/questions/425355/error-authenticating-some-packages-while-upgrade20:15
ballisonand now 'do-release-upgrade" works.20:16
Elliptic_Curvehello everybody20:16
ballisonDoverMo and ioria:  Thank you fo your help !20:18
Elliptic_Curveyou are welcome20:18
ioriaballison, solved ?20:18
ballisonioria: well it's upgrading the OS right now.  :)20:19
ioriaballison, ok.....20:19
FourFireHello, i am trying to get openCL installed on ubuntu 15.1020:20
squintySaeid,  maybe take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics    seem to recall that nvidia-prime is recommended these days over bumblebee20:21
FourFireI have followed this guide: http://www.eriksmistad.no/getting-started-with-opencl-and-gpu-computing/ (subsituting the latest version)20:21
FourFireHowever, the application which I am compiling with opencl flag is giving an error as follows:20:22
Saeidsquinty, ok tnx :)20:22
FourFire"Could not find OPENCL (missing: OPENCL_LIBRARY) (Found version "2.0")"20:22
FourFireso WTF, it's installed but it's the wrong version?20:23
FourFirethe program I am trying to compile with cmake is GROMACS 5.1.2, a molecular dynamics simulation program20:23
SchrodingersScat!language | FourFire20:24
ubottuFourFire: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList20:24
FourFireSchrodingersScat, apologies, I've been strugling with this issue on an off for a couple of months now...20:24
bassbizzare bug I think - i change the "file association" of mp4 files ... and something immediately changes it back! how to fix this??20:27
plytrohow are you changing it?20:28
bassplytro: System Settings > Configure file associations20:29
EriC^^bass: try find ~ ! -user $USER20:29
squintyhighlight file name in nautilus -> right click -> properties -> open with -> select program -> make default20:29
plytroI was going to say what squinty said20:30
EriC^^it might be a permissions issue in the home dir20:30
bbaqarI am getting a "Unit libvirtd.service failed to load: No such file or directory error" while I am starting a service on 15.10 for the first time.  I know that there is no "/lib/systemd/system/libvirtd.service" but where do i set this right in my service?20:31
profallAnyone help me out with this command http://pastebin.com/vcXLrawy20:31
EriC^^bbaqar: systemctl enable <service> to copy the symlinks20:32
basssquinty: plytro: I tried the squinty nautilus method and it still switches back !20:32
EriC^^bbaqar: your service is trying to load libvirtd ?20:33
bbaqarEriC^^: Yes it is20:33
EriC^^bass: give "find ~ ! -user $USER" a shot20:33
neyder_profall, just put it all in yourlauncher20:33
bbaqarSo i changed libvirtd to libvirt-bin in the /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/<service-name>.service file20:34
bbaqarEriC^^: but got the same error " Unit libvirtd.service failed to load: No such file or directory"20:35
bass- EriC^^ yeah permissions looks a possible culprit - i ran "find ~ ! -user $USER" in my home dir and nothing20:35
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EriC^^bbaqar: i think you should check the script that's launching from the original service's config20:36
EriC^^bass: that's a good thing, all the permissions are fine20:36
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neyder_profall, http://pastebin.com/Lu03QDP220:37
EriC^^bass: must be something else20:37
bassEriC^^:  good that they are right - but bad that I still dont know where the file associations are being reset20:37
EriC^^bass: do other associations stick?20:37
EriC^^bass: yeah exactly20:38
bassgood question EriC^^ I'll try hang on20:38
bbaqarEriC^^: the first thing thats mentioned over there is Requires=libvirt-bin.service20:40
FourFireHmm, I guess I email some of the gromacs developers20:40
bbaqarEriC^^: So where else to look?20:41
bassOK here we have the results - changing file association for mp3 works fine, same for .mkv, but with .mp4 it switches back immediately - something crazy20:41
ejbs_can I somehow pass a for-loop’s counter to the template? such as for(i =0…){tmpl_func<i>(…)} ?20:41
\9ejbs_: this is ubuntu support. (but for your question, assuming this is c++, no, because template parameters are decided at compile time)20:42
bekksejbs_: template for what?20:42
ejbs_oh shit, sorry, wrong window20:42
bassbtw just trying to switch .mp4 to VLC - somehow it got associated with audacity - but it is stuck on audacity no matter what I try20:42
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bbaqarEriC^^: So i got past the error by running: systemctl daemon-reload20:46
ioriabass xdg-open file.mp4     what it uses ?20:46
cobrahallo bin neu habe ubuntu auf dem laptop ist ubuntu sicher gegen vieren frage20:49
bekks!de | cobra20:50
ubottucobra: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!20:50
cobradanke20:50
bassioria: I just uninstalled Audacity which had taken over .mp4 and wouldn't give it back, and now the association is with VLC again so "xdg-open file.mp4" opens with VLC for now - just hope that continues when I reinstall Audacity :)20:51
ioriabass glad you solved20:52
ioriabass anyways, man mimeopen   , interesting reading :-)20:53
MannyLNJHappy Saturday to all. I need help. I was running Ubuntu as a file/print server on a laptop with a cracked screen and all was good. Now my screen is totally gone so if I mess up the system I am hosed. I am doing via ssh 'sudo apt-get update' and it's failing with failed to fetch a chrome file.20:55
bekksMannyLNJ: Then you have to wait until the file can be retrieved.20:55
pilnethat or remove chrome... as it seems a bit useless20:55
MannyLNJpilne, i was unsure if I could savely remove it. I'm scared of messing up the system now20:56
pilnedoes the laptop have a hdmi or other video out you could utilize?20:57
bekksMannyLNJ: Of course you can remove a browser safely.20:57
attahSo i just switched over from mint to ubuntu-gnome.. and i hoped i could just carry over my xorg.conf to have my 4K monitor working with MST... but no such luck, has anyone here been able to get that working? (i'm on 16.04 beta, but answers from 15.10 might help too)20:57
MannyLNJpilne, Nope no HDMI and no working VGA. There is a broken monitor connector in the vga socket (prior owner did that)20:58
attahAn there is this in my log, which i suspect might be the culprit:  (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "TwinView" is not used20:58
pilneouch20:58
MannyLNJpilne, I got the laptop for free and just using it as a file server but I never setup VNC or any remote desktop because I kept failing at it. Now I really have to learn CLI21:00
pilnei'd suggest learning it on another box if that one is running ok for your uses21:01
mintsauceHello. I'm trying to do-release upgrade Ubuntu 10.04.4 to 12.10. It aborts after a message along the lines of :'It was not possible to authenticate some packages.' which precedes a long list of packages, including apache2. Any ideas?21:05
soot_++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++21:07
attahAnyone with a working 4K/MST setup that could share their xorg.conf?21:08
k1l_mintsauce: you mean 10.04 to 12.04 right?21:08
mintsaucek1l_: Yup.21:09
k1l_mintsauce: i guess the packages named where intsalled from 3rd party repos or .deb or compiled yourself?21:10
mintsaucek1l_: I've removed any custom ppa's, cleaned source.list etc.21:10
k1l_mintsauce: but the packages are still the same ppa ones?21:10
mintsaucek1l_: And having apache2 etc in there doesn't make sense - I doubt I would done anything non-standard with that.21:11
mintsaucewget, x11-common etc21:12
mintsaucevim21:12
Bashing-omMannyLNJ: Think that google dropped 32 bit support, edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list to be " deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main " . Adding the field " [arch=amd64] " . Works for me .. but YMMV.21:13
MannyLNJBashing-om, thanksi took the other advise and just removed it21:14
Kartagishow do I export LC_* to a different locale?21:14
Kartagislocale-gen didn't work21:14
Bashing-omMannyLNJ: K; If this is a 32 bit system, there is no other option .21:15
yorick__hey21:16
k1l_mintsauce: try this http://askubuntu.com/a/426121/3126021:16
mintsaucek1l_: Thanks, I'll take a look21:17
yorick__how can i disable my intergrated gpu? I would like to test something with passthrough the GPU. When I'd boot, I do get a black screen where I'd usually need to get the disk encryption login (when I've disabled intergrated gpu in BIOS).21:19
Kartagishow do I export LC_* to a different locale?21:21
Kartagislocale-gen didn't work21:21
mintsaucek1l_: Ohhh, this looks promising...21:22
mintsauceAssuming this works, what are your thoughts on jumping straight from 10 -> 12 -> 14 LTS?21:26
bazhangmintsauce, 16.04 lts is available next month21:27
Bashing-ommintsauce: Make your backups ,, a big change from 10.04 to releases running unity .21:27
mintsaucebazhang: I assume 14.04 still has a while until EOL ;)21:28
mintsauceBashing-om: Allready done. Backups and full image taken.21:28
k1l_mintsauce: 14.04 runs 5 years. so 2019 its going EOL21:28
mintsauceBashing-om: When did Unity coming in?21:29
MonkeyDustmintsauce  11.04 or so21:29
k1l_yep21:29
Bashing-ommintsauce: Release 11.04 ?21:30
MonkeyDustmintsauce  11.10, rather21:30
k1l_it was standard since 11.04. but it was included since 10.1021:30
mintsauceSo the pain would be similar 10->12 vs 10->12->1421:30
Bashing-ommintsauce: I would think if ya get to 12 and stable .. should be good to go to 14 with no other problems .21:32
mintsauceWhen is 12.04 EOL?21:33
MonkeyDustmintsauce  12+5=1721:33
_ikke_mintsauce: 5 years support, so 201721:33
heywoodhi all. on 12.04.5 LTS, i'd like to install the HPN patchset to openssh, but that requires the openssh source to be installed. what's the correct way (and location) to grab the sources so i can apply those patches?21:33
mintsauce*cough* ... The version number is lined to the year?21:34
mintsauce* linked21:34
MonkeyDustheywood  apt-get download openssh-client and -server21:34
heywoodMonkeyDust: thanks. to clarify: i had the HPN patches installed from a (third-party) PPA that's no longer maintained, so do i need to apt-get remove those first, or will apt "just work(™)"?21:35
heywoodi'm a bit paranoid because openss{h,l} is a big attack vector if installed/built/configured incorrectly, so i want to make sure i do this right...21:36
MonkeyDustheywood  i guess you're safe with the ubuntu patches and upgrades21:38
heywoodMonkeyDust: also, will your suggestion automatically grab the sources? (pretty sure installing the HPN patch set requires those)21:39
LeoDeehey all, I am wondering if someone here knows how to prevent the wifi from shutting off after 5 mins of idling on a trusty release21:39
heywoodMonkeyDust: or do i need to explicitly pass 'source' to apt-get ?21:39
MonkeyDustheywood  true, it's apt-get source, not apt-get download21:40
heywoodok21:40
mate|89554I can get my wlan to work, but not my wwan in Plasma Mobile (Nexus 5) (Ubuntu 15.04). I suppose I did something with the flight mode and now I cannot get the wwan to work. I have the "adb shell" connected to the phone. What "nmcli" command should I give?21:41
mate|89554I can get my wlan to work, but not my wwan in Plasma Mobile (Nexus 5) (Ubuntu 15.04). I suppose I did something with the flight mode and now I cannot get the wwan to work. I have the "adb shell" connected to the phone. What "nmcli" command should I give?21:41
MonkeyDust!pho,e21:45
MonkeyDust!phone21:45
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch21:46
munch_MarcellIs there a fix for flash player fullscreen going to the wrong monitor?21:48
munch_MarcellIn a multi-monitor setup?21:48
ryclikThere's a tweak i found a couple years ago that had something to do with that.21:50
ryclikIt involved editting the actual plugin with a hex editor.21:51
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Guest17502need help guys got ubuntu mate anything installed via ubuntu software center cant find in menu ?21:52
bekksGuest17502: Because that is not an application, but a desktop environment.21:52
ryclikmunch_Marcell: there's a couple suggestions here if you're using firefox: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1srqjd/full_screen_flash_videos_open_on_wrong_monitor/21:52
munch_Marcellryclik: I'll check it out, thanks ryclik21:53
ryclikI'd personally try the about:config tweak first. From the last comment21:53
ryclikNo problem21:53
Guest17502bekks sorry im a noob can you explain what im doing wrong?21:53
lesshastea simple question.. how do I take an image and make an A4 landscape page with two copies side by side? This is just so I can print it out, cut it and have two a5 copies of the image21:54
bekksGuest17502: You need to logout, and choose Ubuntu Mate at the login window.21:54
\9Guest17502: you installed a desktop environment, that's not something you just open from the menu21:54
\9if you want to use mate, you will first have to log off, select mate from the dropdown present in the login screen and login again21:54
Guest17502ok cheers will try that21:54
MannyLNJIf I have a folder called /media/emanuel/setopbox how can I allow read/write access to it without needing a user account?22:00
manpat you guys should watch this funny video me and my friend made togeteher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HSuaLx7nyk22:00
bekksMannyLNJ: you always need an user account.22:01
MannyLNJbekks, I have a PC being used as a set top box and I want it to access video saved on /media/emanuel/settopbox.22:02
bekksMannyLNJ: And whats the problem in doing so?22:02
mrdebdoes ubuntu 14.04.4 support touch screen tablets out of box22:03
mrdeb???22:03
MannyLNJbekks, the problem with added the windows "user" is I don't know the name of the user the box automaticly starts with22:03
bazhang!touch | mrdeb22:04
ubottumrdeb: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch22:04
bekksMannyLNJ: Then set permissions correctly on that share.22:04
mrdebyes or no22:04
mrdebdoes default iso have touch support22:04
bekksmrdeb: Test it out?22:05
bazhang#ubuntu-touch mrdeb22:05
bazhangjoin there mrdeb22:05
mrdebwhy cant i jsut get answer22:06
mrdebu see how many lines we have types22:06
mrdebok22:06
mrdeboh22:06
bekksmrdeb: you got answers, but you dont want to hear them obviously.22:06
ethern0t:)22:07
mrdebno22:07
mrdebpoint of channel is to give answers not give link that ppl all know to go to, where there would be no need for chat22:07
daftykinsmrdeb: i'd have loaded up a live session from USB in the time you took to argue22:07
mrdebwhat if someone has problem reading22:07
mrdebit is not ok to make fun of htem22:07
mrdebdaftykins: before dl22:08
daftykinsmrdeb: my advice to you is to drop the attitude and get on with it, this is a volunteer channel - nobody is paid to endure your rant.22:08
mrdebu have attitude not me22:08
mrdebi will go22:08
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k1l_sergey__: english only on here22:09
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MannyLNJbekks, I made a folder that I think I have shared the writes are drwx------ but the set top box won't see the folder or the ubuntu system22:20
bekksMannyLNJ: Then youneed to set permissions so other users may read/write/execute as well.22:21
MannyLNJbekks, more reading to do then. I have to check that Samba is enabled.22:22
heywoodargh. trying to grab the version of openssh source that will allow me to install the HPN patchset, but…22:24
heywood(1) version needed (6.3) is newer than that in the official repos for 12.04.5 LTS (5.9p1), and22:24
heywood(2) source downloaded from official openssh repository is signed with a GPG key (0x86FF9C48) that has since been revoked.22:24
heywoodcan anyone recommend the safest way to proceed?22:24
Guest59518newbie, looking for instructions on IRC chatting etc.22:24
heywoodor better yet, an IRC channel where this is more on-topic than this general ubuntu channel?22:25
MonkeyDustGuest59518  #ubuntu-offtopic22:25
heywoodMonkeyDust: was that for me, or Guest59518?22:26
Guest59518for me I believe.22:26
MonkeyDustheywood  for Guest5951822:26
heywoodjust making sure. i have the attention span of a gnat on crack; sorry folks.22:27
lnxmenWhat's the configuration to achieve the lowest power consumption with NVIDIA Optimus?22:27
Guest59518Is there a newbie channel available?22:27
lnxmenEarlier I was using kernel 4.5rc3 and nvidia-355 - it worked somehow (10W consumption).22:28
lnxmenI tried to update NVIDIA drivers to 361 and consumption overdoubled.22:28
lnxmenUpset part is that, downgrading to 355 doesn't help.22:28
Bashing-omGuest59518: This channel ... not just for those "in the know" .. ask your question .22:29
lnxmenSo, I removed all non-standard and possibly bugged kernels. Cleaned headers, etc. I just left standard kernel for Ubuntu 15.10.22:29
lnxmenThen, I installed kernel 4.4.4 and nvidia-361 with prime.22:30
lnxmenUnfortunately, it's still not working as I want to. Power consumption is about 25W.22:30
Guest59518Thanks, totally new to Linux (today) and need to go to the next step, whatever that is.22:31
MonkeyDust!manual | Guest5951822:31
ubottuGuest59518: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/22:31
lnxmenWould anyone help me to set it up?22:31
Bashing-om!manual | Guest59518 Welcome to our world22:31
ubottuGuest59518 Welcome to our world: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/22:31
Guest59518appreciate your help....heading for manual now.22:32
Bashing-omGuest59518: And one other to digest : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty . When you have a failure to comprehend .. ask here . Help is what we do .22:33
Thorax2015Was updating ubuntu and the wifi dropped22:34
Thorax2015, It downloaded 70mb out of 75mb, all individual packages22:34
Thorax2015, But it dropped them all22:34
Thorax2015 and i have to start from the begining22:34
MannyLNJContinued help needed. I have Samba running but the Ubuntu system does not show on Windows22:36
bekksMannyLNJ: So show us your samba configuration in a pastebin please.22:37
MannyLNJbekks, Ok give me a min22:37
sEiNZuGood evening. I installed 15.10 on a usb stick to use it as OS for a thin client. As monitor im using my TV but after the login screen appears the tv doesnt get any signal anymore22:37
bekkssEiNZu: Maybe the configured resolution is too high for the TV?22:38
Bashing-omsEiNZu: ^^ HDMI and the TV net set to recieve the digital dignal ?22:39
sEiNZuHmm if id say its too small. While the thinclient is booting its set to 1080p but for the login screen it changes to 360p just before it stops receiving a signal22:39
bekkssEiNZu: the resolution AFTER the login is in question.22:40
MannyLNJbekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15300783/22:41
sEiNZuI can get into a terminal session with ctrl+alt+f1 (altho that takes about 10mins) and the screen receives a signal again. Ill never get to login bekks. Does the resolution after thr login matter then?22:41
bekkssEiNZu: I just told you something.22:42
Guest59518How do I sign out of this.  Getting the manuals.22:42
bekksMannyLNJ: Thats a file name. And?22:42
sEiNZuThe resolution after the login screen*22:42
bekksMannyLNJ: Show us the samba configuration.22:42
bekkssEiNZu:  < bekks> sEiNZu: the resolution AFTER the login is in question.22:43
sEiNZuThe configuration for thaf would be dealt with my xserver right?22:43
MannyLNJbekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1530082122:44
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bekksMannyLNJ: Can you mount that share from your other box?22:50
jgcampbell300does anyone know of opensource slot machine software ?22:50
bekksMannyLNJ: It doesnt need to be visible for doing so.22:50
MannyLNJbekk No I try \\192.168.1.104\ from my windows system and it doesn't see it22:51
bekksMannyLNJ: Thats not mounting it.22:52
bekksMannyLNJ: You are tryong to browse it.22:52
MannyLNJbekks, how do i mount it?22:52
bekksMannyLNJ: Assign a drive letter to your share, no need for browsing it before.22:52
MannyLNJbekks, how can i do that if i cant see the share on the network?22:54
bekksMannyLNJ: You dont need to browse it.22:55
bekksMannyLNJ: Just map a new drive letter to your share.22:55
MannyLNJbekks, I only know how to do that via browsing, I will have to research. Thanks for the help though22:57
The_Flyhi, running n56vm laptop with nvidia gt630m, optimus technology23:01
The_Flyi get a black scnreen when i install the nvidia drivers23:01
The_Flyanyone here who has dealt with these hybrid graphics laptops before have any advice?23:02
The_Flyblank screen or worse, get logged out as soon as log in23:02
bekks!optimus | The_Fly23:02
ubottuThe_Fly: The Bumblebee Project aims to support NVIDIA Optimus technology under Linux. The Bumblebee website can be found at http://bumblebee-project.org/23:02
bekksHmm.23:02
The_Flyhttp://xmodulo.com/install-configure-nvidia-optimus-driver-ubuntu.html23:02
The_Flynvidia-prime23:02
bekksThe_Fly: Dont use bumblebee, better use nvidia-prime23:02
The_Flyokay23:02
The_Flyso i just need to switch the adapter with shift+alt+f123:03
The_Flyto term23:03
The_Flyand then nvidia-prime nvidia?23:03
The_Flyi thought it was a kernel issue so downgraded to 3.91.0.51-generic23:03
bekksThe_Fly: nvidia-prime, not nvidia23:03
squintyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics23:03
The_Flyfrom 4.2.023:03
The_Flybekks: sure, i thought you have to specify whether you want to run with intel or nvidia gpu23:04
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Try: ' sudo nvidia-xconfig ' to generate a new config file .23:04
The_FlyBashing-om: i did try this, without luck :(23:04
The_Flysquinty: also tried the steps listed here23:04
The_Flytried the proprietary driver (From nvidia website) also23:04
The_Flybut --uninstall'd that because also no luck23:04
daftykinsnvidia-prime for switchability between intel + nvidia, bumblebee for legacy true hybrid action23:05
The_Flyi think it led me to the insta-logout problem23:05
The_Flydaftykins: ah i may try bumblebee then23:05
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Then we look at the log file, see if the driver built ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .23:05
The_Flydo i have to explicitly state which gpu each application should use?23:05
daftykinsit depends on your hardware really, no two optimus implementations are alike (between laptop models) it seems23:06
The_FlyBashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15301056/23:06
The_Flymight be a lot of crap in there because ive been trying over and over23:06
The_Flydowngrade kernel,try again, etc.23:06
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Look'n .23:06
The_Flycheers m8 :)23:07
The_Flyhugely appreciated23:07
daftykinsThe_Fly: don't ever try and downgrade kernel on an Ubuntu.23:08
The_Flyi upgraded to 4.2.023:08
The_Flyand read this was not a good idea with the nvidea drivers23:08
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Nope, did not build "  4.191] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) " .23:08
The_Flyah, what might be the cause of that?23:09
The_Flythis is after sudo apt-get install nvidia-current (or one of the explicit versions)23:09
k1l_header files installed?23:09
The_Flyah23:09
The_Flyheh23:09
k1l_without the proper header files you cant build any module23:09
daftykinsnvidia-current is an old package name, don't use that23:10
The_Flyk1l_: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` ?23:10
ImACarrotI have ubuntu server installed and I want to be able to use cmus. I have cmus installed but can't here anything. How do I install audio drivers in ubuntu server?23:10
The_Flyokay thanks daftykins23:10
k1l_The_Fly: what kernel are you on now? where is the kernel from?23:10
ImACarrot...assuming it's an audio driver issue. :|23:10
The_Flyk1l_: 3.19.0-51-generic and offical repo23:11
The_Flyhaven't added any ppa23:11
k1l_The_Fly: its its the regular ubuntu kernel make sure "linux-generic" is installed23:11
k1l_but 3.19 will mean you are on 15.04, which is EOL now.23:12
The_Flyim on 14.0423:12
k1l_The_Fly: ah ok. so we need the lts backports linux generic package23:12
The_FlyUbuntu 14.04.4 LTS \n \l23:13
daftykinsi'd recommend a "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " on that one before continuing23:13
k1l_The_Fly: which kernel do you want? 3.13, 3.19 or 4.2?23:13
The_Flyhave done23:13
daftykinspossibly bumblebee* too if it hasn't been tried23:13
minasotaThis might have been addressed many times already but I was curious why a package search for openssl on 14.04.4 shows 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 when 1.0.2g-1 is available from debian?23:13
The_Flyk1l_: i was using newer kernel because i have a funny issue with the FN+brightness down key, where acpi events seem to drain slowly23:13
lokienhello guys. how can I install sdl-2.0.3 on ubuntu 15.10? ppa is broken.23:13
The_Flyall other function keys are fine, but when i hit this key, suddenly i cant even close lid for sleep23:13
The_Flyand the event queue drains at one every 30sec23:14
k1l_minasota: ubuntu doesnt update the version number but backport the security patches23:14
The_Flyi thought, again, was a kernel issue23:14
k1l_<k1l_> The_Fly: which kernel do you want? 3.13, 3.19 or 4.2?23:14
The_Flyi dont mind what kernel im on23:14
The_Flyas long as it's the most stable23:14
The_Flyetc.23:14
minasotak1l_: ok, but rkhunter keeps bitching about my openssl being out of date... I can whitelist I guess23:14
k1l_The_Fly: linux-generic-lts-wily    will bring you the 4.2 kernel and headers23:14
k1l_minasota: rkhunter is not what you think it is23:15
daftykins^ if i were you i'd just wait for 16.04 - lovely lovely LTS.23:15
compdocminasota, there are some recent updates to openssl23:15
The_Flyyeah i was wanting to jump to 16.0423:15
The_Flynot ready yet right?23:15
minasotak1l_: what makes you think you know what I think it is?? lol,23:15
minasotacompdoc: yeah, that's what I was getting at. Yesterday I believe was the latest?23:16
compdocsounds right23:16
k1l_minasota: rkhunter runs a checklist which is full of false positives. you still need to go through that list and do the recherché  if that really is a positive23:16
compdocheh, recherché23:16
k1l_minasota: because its a typical: i want an antivirus so i run rkhunter.23:16
The_Flyk1l_: so install linux-generic-lts-wily package then drivers from the settings "software & updates" > "additional drivers" should be fine?23:16
The_Flysince it should actually build the module this time23:17
minasotak1l_: installed and configured on a fresh server install... no false positives except passwd23:17
The_Flygoing off what Bashing-om said23:17
k1l_The_Fly: yes23:17
The_Flythanks :)23:17
The_Flyi'll give that a try23:17
heywoodgack. i've somehow managed to mess up my ssh config, so now sshd is running but not listening on any ports. /etc/ssh/sshd_config contains the (uncommented) line "port 22".23:17
daftykinsThe_Fly: come back again when it's black screen o'clock23:17
minasotak1l_: which was expected because I changed the root passwd23:17
The_Flydaftykins: i will report back23:17
daftykinsroger that23:17
The_Flyany thoughts on the acpi weirdness?23:17
The_Flyoutput of acpi_listen shows all events choke when i touch this one FN+button23:18
daftykinsi didn't catch the make and model of laptop23:18
The_Flyasus n56vm23:18
minasotacompdoc: Long story short, the version available at the moment is good to go then?23:18
daftykinsThe_Fly: ah, they're notorious for bad BIOSs on Linux of late, check you're on the latest version and if so, you could try an acpi_osi kernel boot param to try and trick it into loading the Windows ACPI config for any quirks23:19
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Mind you I do not know ,, but with the newer kernel perhaos the boot parameter " acpi_osi=Linux " will not be needed ??23:19
heywood"sudo restart ssh" gives "restart: Unknown instance:". the "stop" version gives the analogous error. the "start" version gives "ssh start/prestart, process 12345", but ssh -v localhost fails.23:19
The_Flydaftykins: i tried the empty acpi_osi= without luck23:19
The_Flynewer kernel didn't remedy the issue23:20
daftykinsThe_Fly: depends if you set it right and whether the entry you picked was present in the firmware though?23:20
The_Flydaftykins: set in /etc/default/grub23:20
The_Flywith update-grub issued after23:20
daftykinsyes but the exact parameter entry23:20
The_Flytried empty and "Linux"23:21
The_Flythere is one bios version above this on asus site, but changelog mentions nothing of acpi23:21
daftykinsyeah that's wrong23:21
The_Flyah, what should it be?23:21
daftykinsthe Windows versions e.g. "Windows2016" in the firmware - and no, the BIOS entries won't mention fixing anything for Linux23:21
The_Flyoh, the acpi_osi must refer to a windows version? :S23:22
The_Flyif i upgrade bios i have to do so from windows23:22
Bashing-omThe_Fly: To that ^^ do "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows" and identify the latest Windows version listed.23:22
daftykinsyep see above "trick it into loading the Windows ACPI config"23:22
The_Flyas asus only provide flash util for windows23:22
The_Flyand i dont feel like risking bricking this mobo23:23
daftykinsBashing-om: good work! that's the one :)23:23
The_Flycheers again guys23:23
daftykinserr i own an asus and it updates from flash drive23:23
daftykinsmines 5 years old though23:23
The_Flyoh, ah yeah have to boot and update23:23
The_Flyi think23:23
The_Flyi haven't done it in a while23:23
daftykinsusually a util inside the BIOS23:23
The_Flynot on this one23:24
The_Flyhorrible bios ui23:24
The_FlyBashing-om: Windows 201223:25
The_Flyso i want acpi_osi=Windows2012 ?23:25
Bashing-omThe_Fly: k: old old bios version, huh ?23:25
daftykinsyep23:25
The_FlyBashing-om: one version behind23:25
The_Flyi had it from dmidecode (maybe i recall command incorrectly)23:26
The_Flynope, Version: N56VM.20623:26
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Reason I say old .. is I see a lot of "2015" with that code .23:27
The_Flythere's a v214, next release above v20623:27
The_Flywill that matter?23:27
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Uh, now that I can not comment on as I do not know .23:28
The_Flythe flash utility is here https://www.asus.com/support/Download/3/390/0/1/OZUVpdzC8g1tIjWG/36/23:28
The_Flyah, so worth trying acpi_osi=Windows2012?23:29
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Sure ! can not hurt as on 1 time boot parameter in grub, see what results .23:30
The_Flynext down is "Windows 2009"23:30
The_Flyokay23:30
The_Flythanks23:30
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daftykinsi see no harm in a BIOS update23:30
The_Flyi will give that a shot also, but the util is win823:30
The_Flyso i have to physically swap old hdd in23:31
The_Flymade ssd upgrade and switch to ubuntu, so i can develop nix-only project im working on23:31
Bashing-omThe_Fly: when there's a space in a parameter the entire parameter needs surrounding: "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" is what needs to be on the kernel command line (including those " marks I just typed)23:31
The_Flyjust want to get gpu and fn-keys sorted and im good to go23:31
The_FlyBashing-om: but im adding to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT23:31
The_Flyso should i escape the inner "23:32
Bashing-omThe_Fly: 2012**23:32
The_Flyoh i thought just remove the space in this case23:32
The_Flyso far i have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Windows2012"23:32
The_Flyi guess that's wrong :_(23:32
Bashing-omThe_Fly: I would try from grub boot before making the edit to the config file .23:33
The_Flybut when i do finally want to put in here, would i escape the " ?23:33
The_Flyi couldn't get grub boot menu to show23:33
The_Flyhold shift right?23:33
The_Fly*correct23:33
Bashing-omThe_Fly: if you edit THAT file, you need to *escape* those quotes too with \" ... \"23:34
Bashing-omAs in: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" \"acpi_osi=Windows 2009\""23:34
The_Flycool yes, that's what id like to do23:35
The_Flyi couldn't get into grub menu, annoyingly23:35
The_Flymaybe i was too slow to hold shift23:35
The_Flythis thing boots too fast23:35
The_Flyi tried -1 for the timeout param23:35
The_Flyno luck23:35
Bashing-omThe_Fly: UEFI ? it is the escape key that grub recognizes .23:36
The_Flyyes uefi23:36
The_Flyah23:36
The_Flyi was mislead23:36
The_Flyno issue with putting acpi_osi into GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT?23:37
The_Flyas opposed to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX23:37
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Got to be real quick .. a very small window of opportunity .23:37
JamesT1995Question...is there a way to install Java Desktop Environment on Ubuntu?23:38
xanguaJamesT1995: java desktop what....?23:38
JamesT1995xangua: gui from Solaris 1023:38
k1l_JamesT1995: which version?23:38
bekksJamesT1995: No.23:39
JamesT1995k1l: the latest one (3)23:39
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Either place will work .23:39
The_FlyBashing-om: ah, seems like a bit of a usability issue23:39
bekksJamesT1995: That Java based desktop environment was developed from Sun, and has not been put under an opensource license. It is not available for other operating systems.23:39
The_Fly(i mean the timing)23:39
The_Flycool, will try that and see if my hotkey and gfx issues are solved. your help/time is much appreciated23:40
JamesT1995bekks: Wikipedia says it once was for Linux23:40
bekksJamesT1995: And that development was abandoned decades ago.23:40
Bashing-omThe_Fly: I do not look forward to learning UEFI , My ole box I hope is good for a few more years yet .23:41
JamesT1995bekks: damn, I love how simple it is23:41
R13oseHow long should I wait for Ubuntu to boot after the installation?23:41
voyzrdThis is so cool !!! https://bitly.com/1QTt6hL23:41
voyzrdThis is so cool !!! https://bitly.com/1QTt6hL23:41
voyzrdThis is so cool !!! https://bitly.com/1QTt6hL23:41
bekksJamesT1995: It is horribly complex, since it is based on Java :)23:41
voyzrdThis is so cool !!! https://bitly.com/1QTt6hL23:41
Bashing-omR13ose: I would think over 3 minutes to boot up is excessive .23:42
bekksJamesT1995: If you like a quite simple desktop environment, just use XFCE, LXDE or Mate.23:42
The_FlyBashing-om: no luck on the acpi front, unfortunately23:43
JamesT1995bekks: yeah, Java...I know...im looking for something simple (XP style...)23:43
JamesT1995bekks: im on xfce23:43
The_FlyBashing-om: press that one hotkey and now the rest of hotkeys queue up for 30 sec until the queue is empty :(23:43
k1l_JamesT1995: lubuntu or Xubuntu23:43
bekksJamesT1995: Then just use a theme of your choice.23:43
k1l_JamesT1995: or look at ubuntu mate23:43
The_FlyBashing-om: tbh i can just change brightness with the slider in settings menu, for now23:43
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Well ,, for these lap tops, was worth a shot .23:43
The_FlyBashing-om: yeah, it' a real strange one, every other key is fine, just this one23:43
JamesT1995k1l_: not going back to MATE23:43
The_FlyBashing-om: very odd, okay now to test graphics...23:44
The_FlyBashing-om: bios update is worth a shot, but im not hopeful23:45
The_Flyhow is this something microsoft manage to get right, one of the few things they do23:45
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Graphics: did yopu make sire OEM is gone gone ? - sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" - .23:46
The_Flyi suppose they will have closer relations with hardware vendors23:46
The_FlyBashing-om: previously i ran the intaller with --uninstall23:46
Bashing-omThe_Fly: Just making sure .. many do not know to .23:47
The_Flyconfirmed OEM is gone23:47
The_Flyok, reboot, praying for no black screen (or kicked out after login)23:47
The_Flydamn, black screen23:48
The_Flyim talking to you from shift+alt+f1 > ssh23:48
The_Fly:_(23:48
daftykinsdid you say this is 14.04.4?23:49
The_Flydaftykins: correct23:50
The_Flynow 4.2.0.30-generic23:50
daftykinslikely all your tries have messed it up, start again from scratch23:50
The_Flybah23:50
daftykinsi really think the BIOS should be thrown on too23:50
The_Flyfresh os install?23:50
daftykinsyip23:50
The_Flybooo23:51
daftykinsi mean i'm sure someone might want to enjoy picking through the pieces, but it isn't me :)23:51
The_Flyokay, i'll back up my homedir and give it a shot23:51
The_Flyyou're right23:51
The_Flythis is a waste of time23:51
The_Flythanks anyway :)23:51
daftykinsnp23:51
The_Flyfresh install, leave kernel alone23:52
The_Flystraight to driver install23:52
The_Flylatest (highest version number) in the additional drivers tab?23:52
The_Flyjust full on noob mode23:52
The_Flyand cross fingers23:52
daftykinswould you mind reducing the enter key spam?23:52
The_Flyapologies, it's a bad habbit of mine23:52
daftykinsyeah focus on the OS install and don't restore your /home to start with, keep it totally vanilla - fully updated but then "sudo apt install nvidia-xxx nvidia-prime" where xxx is whatever version we're up to now, also i think 352 was buggy23:53
daftykinsubuntu has an updated driver PPA for graphics, it might be of benefit - i'm not sure what's in 14.04.4 repos now23:54
MiniFridgeHello, is Ubuntu 14.04 (not 14.04.4) an LTS version?23:57
MiniFridgeI am getting a server and I can decide between 15.04 and 14.0423:57
MiniFridgeoh and 15.1023:57
bekksMiniFridge: 14.04 is a LTS version, and 15.04 isnt supported anymore.23:57
MiniFridgeOkay, so what is with the 14.04.4?23:58
daftykinsit's the fourth maintenance release, if you will - with a 4.2.0 kernel as its' base, typically23:58
Senor:(23:59
Senorhello everyone23:59
SenorI need a helping hand. Hopefully, i came to the right place.23:59

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