[00:00] <Lorne2> Bashing-om : You mean I should go back into windows and defrag from there?   (but I'll be defraging the C: ...the system drive its using, won't I?)
[00:01] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: What problem are you actually having?
[00:02] <Lorne2> Jordan-U just trying to install ubuntu onto a win 7 laptop...make it dual boot...and I guess the LiveUSB install doesn't seem to "see" that's what I'm trying to do...
[00:03] <Lorne2> Jordan-U : I confess...it may simply be that I don't understand partitioning very well.
[00:03] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Just to answer your earlier question they probably have LVM or something setup on their root drive which will cause the ramdisk kernel module to be loaded so that /dev/ram0 can be used for the initrd by default it makes 16 devices though.
[00:04] <seraphina> Same happens on mine since I have my / partition on an encrypted LVM
[00:04] <Eliter> What's Ubuntu's grub boot loader? Would it give me the option of booting to a different Operating System, upon start?
[00:06] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: Could you please pastebin screenshots of the Installer that demonstrate the problem?
[00:07] <seraphina> Bashing-om, At least I believe so anyway remember reading that /dev/ram0 is used for the initrd
[00:07] <Bashing-om> seraphina: As it is a Windows ram allocation, will have no effect in also installing ubuntu as dual boot ?
[00:08] <Gallomimia> ram is completely erased before every boot
[00:08] <Gallomimia> a ram allocation won't exist when booted into other OS
[00:09] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: K. yeah .. So that begs the question of why fdisk sees these ram devices ?
[00:09] <seraphina> RAM is erased if it's not refreshed for more than a few milli's is the nature of DRAM it's the running kernel that handles RAM allocation
[00:09] <Lorne2> Jordan_U:  Sure thing.  Thanks for your patience...will be back :)
[00:09] <Gallomimia> Eliter: yes that's what it does
[00:09] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: you mean /dev/ramX ?
[00:09] <Gallomimia> i do believe they're always there
[00:09] <seraphina> Well mostly, the BIOS will allocate a small amount for things like PCI-E MSI and such then hand the loading OS kernel a memory map telling it what it can use
[00:11] <Bashing-om> seraphina: Makes sense,, then when bios hands that map off to ubuntu .. the ubuntu OS will remap ?
[00:12] <seraphina> Bashing-om, No the BIOS basically retains the address ranges it needs for low level hardware support etc
[00:12] <styvpn87> irc.freshon.tv
[00:13] <Bashing-om> seraphina: Pardon my ignorance, but how will these ram devices effect ubuntu ?
[00:13] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Usually like a few MB or so more in some cases if you have like an onboard GPU that shares main memory with the CPU
[00:14] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Ubuntu is creating those because it needs to load the initrd in order to prepare the main / partition for mounting.
[00:14] <seraphina> Bashing-om, It needs to decompress the initrd into one of them
[00:15] <seraphina> There are 16 because it seems that ubuntu must insmod the ramdisk module without any parameters so 16 is the default.
[00:16] <Bashing-om> seraphina: I rarely see this condition, and only in respect to Windows . I surely do not want to miss-direct anyone in installing ubuntu .
[00:16] <zhxk82> hello, how to turn off port forwarding that issued my ssh -fN ?
[00:16] <daftykins> what do you mean "that issued..." ?
[00:17] <zhxk82> ssh -fN XXXXXXX
[00:17] <zhxk82> makes port forwad, right, now  want to the portforwarding off
[00:17] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Think it's because things like LVM and disk encryption are non default install options, the initrd only needs to be used if the / partition isn't mountable directly by the kernel without the support of any additional tools
[00:18] <daftykins> ah i see, you probably have to re-establish the connection
[00:18] <causative> my computer is excruciatingly slow because a couple programs are swapping... but since I just closed some programs, there's actually plenty of memory left as I can see on my menu bar widget!  So why are they swapping?
[00:19] <Bashing-om> seraphina: OK, then I am in for an additional learning experience here ... as away we go .
[00:19] <daftykins> zhxk82: sounds like -f backgrounds ssh, so you'll need to "ps -ef | grep ssh" then kill the PD
[00:19] <daftykins> *PID
[00:19] <causative> oh... well the problem has resolved itself finally
[00:20] <causative> weird that it would be swapping instead of just claiming more memory
[00:20] <zhxk82> daftykins, how to turn off port forwarding, back to the status of before 'ssh -fN xxx'?
[00:21] <Lorne2> Jordan_U : OK...when I watch Youtube videos of the install process, there's a screen that asks " Install Ubuntu alongside Windows" - I never see that screen
[00:21] <daftykins> zhxk82: as i just said
[00:21] <seraphina> Bashing-om, I think that there are other possible causes for why an initrd is needed than LVM or Luks but those are at least two anyways
[00:21] <zhxk82> thank you, could you make a one line command to automactical do the job?
[00:22] <reisio> automactical ftw
[00:22] <boxmein> hay! asking again: my lock-screen style somehow reset from "cool unity login prompt" to "boring borderless gtk window" how fix
[00:22] <boxmein> someone mentioned it could do with the lightdm theme
[00:22] <Lorne2> how do I pastebin a pic?
[00:22] <zhxk82> !paste
[00:22] <daftykins> Lorne2: imgur.com
[00:22] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: Please pastebin the output of "sudo os-prober" and "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS".
[00:22] <reisio> zhxk82: you can parse ps' output, but pgrep -x might be simpler (kill $(pgrep -x foo))
[00:22] <Bashing-om> seraphina: Thanks, will keep under advisement .. Never ending curve of learning .
[00:23] <daftykins> hopefully the image is not of text, or i will have to slap your wrists ;)
[00:24] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: One possibility is that your computer is UEFI capable but Windows is installed for BIOS, *and* the Ubuntu installer is being booted via UEFI. You can't reasonably dual boot with one OS booting via BIOS and the other via UEFI.
[00:25] <akku> hello!
[00:26] <akku> anyone ever installed openvas on 14.04?
[00:26] <Lorne2> Jordan_U:  http://pastebin.com/39Kd6GAN
[00:28] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: OK, so os-prober does detect Windows. Please post a screenshot of the installer.
[00:28] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | Lorne2
[00:28] <daftykins> akku: best to try with detail e.g. "i tried... this happened... but i expected..."
[00:29] <Lorne2> Jordan_U : http://imgur.com/jaHoW7K
[00:30] <akku> I tried to install openvas but many NVTs do not work. I used the python gems to download arachni/wapiti & co but it complains that it can't find the script/binary
[00:30] <Eliter> how easy is it to get rid of GRUB boot loader?
[00:30] <reisio> Eliter: and replace it with what?
[00:31] <akku> there are a bunch of openvas for ubuntu 14.04 available but they all fail
[00:31] <akku> tutorials i mean :-)
[00:31] <seraphina> Eliter, You can't simply just get rid of a bootloader assuming you want the system to be capable of booting again after would need to install a replacement one
[00:33] <Eliter> seraphina: If I don't like the GRUB boot loader, is there a good easy way to get back to the way things were? The way I originally had it setup is with Windows 10, and I think it installed its own boot loader by default.
[00:33] <seraphina> Eliter, Well the NTLOADER doesn't support dual boot as far as I know
[00:34] <Eliter> seraphina: I think I'll like GRUB, since it's friendly, and not a dictator.
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Eliter: Yes. For BIOS you can use "install-mbr" to install an MS style MBR, and for UEFI you can use efibootmgr to remove the Ubuntu boot entry (Windows' boot entry will still be there).
[00:35] <Eliter> So, when I remove the Ubuntu boot entry, then run Windows 10 OS, everything will return?
[00:36] <seraphina> Eliter, What do you mean everything will return what is missing?
[00:36] <Eliter> if I install the GRUB boot loader.
[00:38] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: Do you know why your Windows installation has three partitions, 2 large and one small? Normally for windows installations pre-7 you have only one large partition, and 7,8, and 10 you have one small partition for the bootloader and then a large partition.
[00:38] <Eliter> Once I get GRUB, can I get back to .NET's crud?
[00:38] <prbc> how can I install an USB network adapter in ubuntu? I plugged, installed the driver, and what's next?
[00:38] <akku> reinstall the windows boot loader
[00:39] <akku> google
[00:39] <seraphina> Jordan_U, It could be a laptop or prebuilt PC they usually have 3, the third being the manufacturer recovery partition
[00:39] <Jordan_U> seraphina: 140 GiB is far too large for a recovery partition.
[00:39] <Lorne2> Jordan_U : no idea... but it WAS a work computer...and my employer is a very well known IT company...so I'm sure they knew why...
[00:39] <seraphina> Ah yah good point there
[00:39] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Lorne2
[00:40] <daftykins> prbc: what did you do to 'install the driver' ? is the module loaded? has a network interface appeared? ( "ifconfig -a"
[00:41] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: The problem is that normally there is a clear solution for setting up a dual boot: Resize the single large partition (keeping the small ones as they are) and with the room you've freed create partitions for Ubuntu.
[00:41] <Lorne2> Jordan_U : sounds like a logical thing... so why doesn't it notice one partition is MUCH larger than the others...and has 70% free space?
[00:42] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: In your case though it's not clear if sda2 should be resized or if sda3 should be.
[00:42] <Eliter> is there a command for installing grub boot loader, in Ubuntu Server?
[00:42] <daftykins> grub-install
[00:42] <Jordan_U> Eliter: grub will be installed automatically when you install Ubuntu.
[00:42] <Lorne2> Jordan_U : OK.  awesome...sounds like you understand the problem...easy solution?   (hoping...)
[00:43] <Eliter> Jordan_U: I have the option here, in the installer, to not install it.
[00:43] <prbc> daftykins: I downloaded, unzip, make/make install
[00:43] <Jordan_U> Eliter: Well don't select that option, because not installing grub would be silly.
[00:43] <prbc> daynaskully: if I type iwconfig it shows a new one (ra0)
[00:43] <daftykins> hmm that is not a method i would have chosen
[00:44] <jushur> actually if windows is installed to a uefi (it should be) it has three partitions, boot, efi, and system. (the order may be different)
[00:44] <prbc> daynaskully: it shows in ifconfig too
[00:44] <Eliter> Jordan_U: ok, I'll get grub. But changing grub settings seem a little difficult.
[00:44] <daftykins> prbc: oh so it's a USB _wireless_ adapter.
[00:44] <prbc> daynaskully: yes
[00:44] <prbc> daynaskully: ops
[00:44] <daftykins> prbc: make + model? chipset? ubuntu version? also stop highlighting the wrong guy
[00:44] <prbc> daftykins: yes
[00:44] <seraphina> Lorne2, It's not so much a case of it not noticing as it is an ambiguous situation so it leaves it for you to resolve the ambiguity yourself
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Eliter: If you're sure that sda2, the 350 GiB partition, is the one you want to resize then yes it should be pretty simple. You just use GParted to resize sda2 to whatever size you want it to be then run Ubuntu's installer again, and it should offer to install to the free space. (Don't create another partition yourself)
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Eliter: Of course, as always, you should have backups of any important data.
[00:45] <prbc> daftykins: Ubuntu 14.04.1, Tp-Link AC600 Archer T2UH
[00:45] <akku> hey guys is there anyone with intel 8950 cryptocards experience? i'd be interested in aes128 throughput...
[00:45] <seraphina> Lorne2, You could pick the "something else" option and resize the partition with free space yourself to make room then create a new partition to install linux the installer will let you do all that.
[00:46] <daftykins> prbc: can you confirm '14.04.1' with "cat /etc/issue" ? if it really is, that's out of date
[00:46] <Lorne2> seraphina: I'm kinda frightened of that option...not gonna lie...
[00:46] <daftykins> akku: better question for #linux - but still very niche.
[00:46] <prbc> daftykins: In this file it shows 14.04.4
[00:47] <prbc> daftykins: in uname -v it shoes 14.04.1
[00:47] <daftykins> "this file" ?
[00:47] <Eliter> Jordan_U: wait, backups? Backups of what?
[00:47] <Jordan_U> Eliter: Do you need help resizing sda2 via GParted?
[00:47] <prbc> daftykins: /etc/issue
[00:47] <daftykins> ok good
[00:47] <Eliter> Jordan_U: I may need help with that, and understanding what it is you just said.
[00:49] <daftykins> prbc: so if you got ra0 added, you should be able to use network manager in the GUI to handle connections
[00:49] <Jordan_U> Eliter: If your hard drive died right now, because random hardware failure is common, how sad would you be about the data loss? No matter what you're doing, anything that you care about should exist in more than one place.
[00:50] <seraphina> Lorne2, Well that's a good thing honestly partitioning stuff is potentially destructive to data thus why it's good to backup important data before doing it.  Someone here could walk you though the process though if you need help with it.
[00:51] <Lorne2> seraphina : good call.  I'll try working with Jordan_U for the moment...and if we get to that, I'll hold my breath and do it.  Currently the whole disk is cloned onto an external disk....BUT it won't boot from the external disk
[00:51] <Eliter> Jordan_U: I'm not quite sure I need to worry about that. I was thinking of getting yet another hard drive and have a RAID setup, but, eh.....
[00:51] <Gallomimia> someone just told me they can't download a ubuntu iso from the webserver. 403 errors. guys your webservers are borked!
[00:52] <Jordan_U> Eliter: RAID is *not* a backup, and does not replace backups.
[00:52] <Eliter> Gallomimia: tell em' to try proxying into it.
[00:52] <prbc> daftykins: I don't know what I should do. It says network manager is installed and running. When I click in the top right I just can see the wired connection. There are no wireless network showing.
[00:52] <daftykins> prbc: does it have the wireless tickbox when you right click it?
[00:53] <Jordan_U> Eliter: But if your data isn't very important then feel free to not back it up.
[00:53] <Lorne2> Jordan_U : http://pastebin.com/mJG3Q3rP
[00:53] <prbc> daftykins: No. Just a tickbox for Enable Networking
[00:53] <Eliter> Jordan_U: how would you suggest backing it up?
[00:53] <seraphina> Eliter, What Jordan_U says makes sense RAID is about availability not recoverability it's meant to lower the risk of downtime mostly.
[00:53] <daftykins> prbc: hmm, share your "/etc/network/interfaces" and "ifconfig -a" via http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:54] <Eliter> seraphina: I hear there are multiple RAID setups. Ones for redundancy, ones for writing little on one and a little on the other for speed.
[00:55] <daftykins> yes, there are many RAID modes.
[00:55] <Jordan_U> Eliter: Redundancy doesn't mean that it's a replacement for backups.
[00:55] <daftykins> 0 is the latter - "striping", most others are mirroring or a combination thereof
[00:55] <seraphina> Eliter, True, but the redundancy is more intended to help keep servers up given the inevitability of drive failure it is not designed for disaster recovery which is what backups are for.
[00:56] <prbc> daftykins: paste.ubuntu.com/15287440/
[00:56] <prbc> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15287440/
[00:56] <daftykins> prbc: riiiight so this host is a vbox VM. why are you installing a wireless USB adapter in a VM?
[00:57] <Jordan_U> Eliter: If the files are small, then email them to yourself, use a service like google drive, etc. If they are large then buy another drive ASAP and copy the files there. If only some important files are small enough to backup right now, back those up now and back up the larger ones when you buy another hard drive.
[00:57] <Eliter> seraphina: oh, you're talking about "Everything was fine on 3-4-16 17:56", and if I need to rollback.
[00:57] <seraphina> Eliter, Anything really important you should still have burned onto some DVD-R's or on an external drive or a network server, ideally one that isn't in the same physical location
[00:57] <prbc> daftykins: I want to use aircrack with it
[00:57] <daftykins> prbc: ok well your driver isn't working and i will not be helping with that any further.
[00:58] <Jordan_U> Eliter: Also, that boot info script output tells me that there is more going on with sda2 and sda3, neither of them have filesystems recognisable by blkid.
[00:58] <daftykins> (MAC shows as all 0's, not a good sign)
[00:58] <seraphina> Eliter, That's one example sure another is your PSU blew up and fried the circitry on both drives
[00:58] <prbc> daftykins: So, it's just the driver?
[00:58] <Eliter> seraphina: I am on the last question on the installation of Ubuntu, so I don't really think there's a way back. I'm disconnecting the drive with all my progress with Windows 10.
[00:59] <R13ose> I am getting this error: "libc-dev-bin : Depends: libc6 (< 2.16) but 2.17-0ubuntu4" is to be installed when I try to use apt-get in the terminal.  How do I use the correct version?
[00:59] <Eliter> The drive that I've installed on, I wouldn't mind the data being lost.
[00:59] <Jordan_U> Eliter: Sorry, it looks like I got my discussion with you and Lorne2 crossed up.
[00:59] <seraphina> Eliter, Yeah you are right you have already been through the partitioning step already, you should install the GRUB loader or you will not be able to access your ubuntu install which would defeat the purpose in that case.
[01:00] <Lorne2> Jordan_U : so was that last one for me?!
[01:00] <seraphina> Large files I could give an option for a service with unlimited storage assuming you have good enough internet to make it useful though am not sure if I should share that in channel since it is a commercial service
[01:01] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: That output tells me that there is something more going on with sda2 and sda2 as they aren't even showing up as having filesystems that blkid recognises.
[01:02] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: I wonder if your Windows installation is using bitlocker encryption or similar.
[01:02] <Lorne2> Jordan_U : so...um...anything we can do about that?  Are we back to manually resizing partitions....?
[01:03] <seraphina> R13ose, What are you trying to do, sounds like you are trying to install something compiled against a later version of libc6 than the rest of your system you added a third party repo or PPA or something?
[01:03] <daftykins> did any of you solve that RAM disk situation yet?
[01:03] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: If blkid doesn't even see a valid filesystem on sda2 then GParted almost certainly won't either, and thus won't be able to resize the filesystem (which needs to be done before you change the size of the partition).
[01:04] <seraphina> daftykins, It was just the ramdisks ubuntu creates when it has / mounted on LVM/Luks
[01:04] <R13ose> seraphina: yes, I tried to install a newer version of filezilla but that broke the libc6
[01:04] <daftykins> seraphina: ah, funky encryption
[01:05] <seraphina> R13ose, Yeah it will do things like that especially when you are messing with libc which is pretty much about one of the most core libraries you can get pretty much everything depends on it nearly.
[01:05] <R13ose> How do I fix this issue?
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: If your employer did setup "full disk encryption" (which is a misnomer, as only some partitions are encrypted even if they do comprise most of the data on the disk) then that would explain your current problems, and you would need to figure out what type of encryption they're using and will almost certainly need to resize them from within Windows.
[01:06] <daftykins> R13ose: i've often heard it said that when libc6 gets ruined, it's game over
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: If your employer didn't setup any encryption, then I don't know what's going on.
[01:06] <seraphina> R13ose, You would need to get a copy of every single package on the system that was built against that version of libc, either that or remove the incompatible package you install
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Lorne2: Anyway, I need to go for now.
[01:07] <Lorne2> Jordan_U  yeah its possible... ok - I'll try to fix it from within windows.  thanks guys...
[01:07] <Eliter> Actually, I'm much more satisfied with grub loader. Microsoft should consider give people options, instead of forcing their own OS.
[01:07] <seraphina> Purging the package that is demanding the new version of libc would hopefully resolve the issue
[01:07] <R13ose> The program wasn't really installed just used export PATH which means this is gone after I logged out if I am right.
[01:08] <seraphina> R13ose, So the error came up when you first tried to install then?
[01:09] <R13ose> seraphina: nope the error came up when I tried to use apt-get after I installed the new version of libc6
[01:11] <seraphina> R13ose, Then you have a real problem there, you could try removing the PPA or whatever you added and try to reinstall libc to see if it will downgrade it back, problem is that most of the binaries on your system will be broken at the moment so that is why that makes these problems so hard to fix.
[01:12] <R13ose> seraphina: really?  There is no way to fix this at all?
[01:14] <seraphina> R13ose, As I say you can attempt to remove the PPA or repo you added to get the new package then purge the offending package and try to reinstall libc from the ubuntu repo I can't tell you for sure if it will succeed though, not sure if some of the tools will be broken preventing even that.
[01:14] <Lorne> McFee Endpoint Encryption!  Found the little bugger....
[01:14] <nacc> R13ose: and use ppa-purge for that, most likely
[01:15] <seraphina> R13ose, There is a reason why even hardcore distros like Gentoo have a whole huge entire guide on the topic of upgrading libc, do it wrong and it will destroy your system
[01:15] <R13ose> This is the command I used: "sudo dpkg -i libc6_2.17-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb" to make the upgrade happen.
[01:16] <Eliter> Anyone know how I can run my Ubuntu server (fully installed on my other hard drive), from Virtual Box on Windows? It has the OS and everything else already on the hard drive.
[01:16] <nacc> R13ose: never ever do that with libc.
[01:16] <R13ose> sorry
[01:16] <nacc> R13ose: you should never ever manually attempt to change the version of libc on your system
[01:17] <nacc> R13ose: it will fundamentally break your system, if you actually do it
[01:17] <R13ose> I know that now.  All I am trying to do is fix this
[01:17] <seraphina> nacc, Be glad it's a very very bad idea lol
[01:17] <nacc> R13ose: you did something as root that broke your system
[01:17] <nacc> R13ose: there aren't a lot of good ways to fix it, most likely
[01:17] <nacc> seraphina: yep :)
[01:18] <R13ose> I don't want to reinstall because of one bad thing I did.  There must be a way to downgrade.
[01:18] <nacc> R13ose: after purging the ppa, does `apt-get -f install` indicate it can fix things?
[01:19] <seraphina> nacc, She didn't use a PPA she used dpkg -i directly :|
[01:19] <R13ose> I didn't use a ppa for filezilla either
[01:19] <nacc> seraphina: oooh, i see
[01:19] <nacc> R13ose: um, ok, what does `apt-get -f install` say?
[01:20] <nacc> R13ose: and remove filezilla if it's still installed (apt-get remove filezilla), to break the dep
[01:21] <seraphina> Will definitely need to do that, or "apt-get purge filezilla" maybe
[01:21] <stacks88> do i have it right that we shouldnt set passwords on root, and instead just have a passwod on a sudo user ?
[01:21] <R13ose> pastebin: http://pastebin.com/Ei42WLn2 and some of the same errors appear when I try to remove or purge filezilla.
[01:22] <nacc> R13ose: what about `apt-get -f remove filezilla` ?
[01:23] <R13ose> As I said filezilla is not installed anymore as with PATH, if you restart or log out this goes away.
[01:24] <propman> stacks88,  that's default on ubuntu
[01:24] <nacc> btw, what version of ubuntu is this? no supported version of ubuntu is on 2.17 ... are you on 12.04?
[01:24] <nacc> R13ose: --^
[01:24] <R13ose> nacc: yes
[01:24] <nacc> R13ose: you just said that trying to remove or purge filezilla leads to messages ... but then you said "filezilla is not isnstalled anymore"
[01:24] <nacc> which is it?
[01:24] <seraphina> R13ose, No more accurately with that libc installed if you log out or reboot your system doesn't boot again period
[01:25] <promet> I'm on 14.04 and trying to work with a dev environment that requires libjpeg-6.2, 14.04 current default is libjpeg-8, I think I will need to roll back. Does anyone have an idea if this will mess with my install?
[01:25] <nacc> promet: do it in a VM or container?
[01:25] <nacc> promet: don't chagne your base system for a dev environment
[01:25] <promet> nacc, you a a gentleman and a scholar
[01:25] <R13ose> nacc: http://pastebin.com/rHFQcSC6
[01:26] <promet> I never even thought of that
[01:26] <R13ose> seraphina: not sure what you meant.
[01:26] <promet> lol
[01:26] <nacc> promet: np ... it's the easiest way to do just about evertying nowadays :)
[01:26] <flyback> any italians here who can help someone on undernet connect here so I can get them some linux help
[01:26] <nacc> R13ose: ok, what was teh command that gave you the earlier pastebin?
[01:26] <promet> nacc, I am beginning to see the light...
[01:26] <propman> !it
[01:27] <promet> nacc, I can tear the vm apart without too much consequence
[01:27] <nacc> promet: esp. with the latest (what will bein 16.04) of lxc/lxd ... realy easy to start up any OS that linuxcontainers.org has
[01:27] <nacc> promet: exactly
[01:27] <R13ose> nacc: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:27] <nacc> promet: and leave your base system stable
[01:27] <promet> <*processes revelation*>
[01:27] <seraphina> R13ose, The apt-get -f purge filezilla
[01:28] <seraphina> R13ose, That should try to force the removal
[01:28] <R13ose> seraphina: look at the newest pastebin I linked
[01:28] <nacc> R13ose: try `apt-get -f install libc6=2.15-0ubuntu10.13`
[01:30] <R13ose> nacc: still saying "The following packages have unmet dependencies"
[01:30] <nacc> R13ose: please just pastebin the output
[01:30] <nacc> all of it
[01:30] <R13ose> nacc: http://pastebin.com/Kz2rKCYQ
[01:31] <nacc> R13ose: try `apt-get -f install libc6=2.15-0ubuntu10.13 libc6:i386=2.15-0ubuntu10.13`
[01:32] <seraphina> nacc, Heh this conversation is reminding me of my gentoo days lol
[01:32] <nacc> seraphina: i suppose it's nice that ubuntu only reminds you of that when something is broken :)
[01:32] <R13ose> nacc: output: http://pastebin.com/iXSqQ70q
[01:34] <seraphina> nacc, Heh well I guess mostly gentoo did the same when a fault between keyboard and chair causes a circular dependency that can't be solved lol
[01:35] <nacc> R13ose: so i'm not sure how much further i can help tonight, but you can try remove libc:i386, which might remove a bucnh of packages, but just note which ones you actually care about; then do the -f install with just libc6, then reinstall libc6:i386 and then reinstall those packages
[01:36] <nacc> R13ose: as the 32-bit libc should be less system critical ... although in 12.04 maybe not, I can't remember
[01:36] <R13ose> My computer is 64 bit
[01:36] <nacc> that's fine, doesn't mean all the software is
[01:36] <R13ose> nacc: how do I remove libc:i386?
[01:37] <nacc> R13ose: try `apt-get remove libc:i386`
[01:37] <nacc> but be cautious
[01:37] <nacc> at this point, you could be fundamentally breaking your system ...
[01:37] <nacc> so read the output, understand it, etc
[01:37] <R13ose> nacc: E: Unable to locate package libc:i386
[01:38] <nacc> sorry libc6:i386
[01:39] <R13ose> nacc: output: http://pastebin.com/nQMsYbzX
[01:39] <seraphina> nacc, I think the problem is that it's already fundamentally broken seems like if it's recoverable the only way is for it to get worse before it gets better though from the looks of things.
[01:39] <nacc> R13ose: yeah
[01:39] <nacc> err, seraphina: yeah
[01:40] <nacc> R13ose: yeah, i'm not sure at this point, you try passing -f to remove, but it might not get much further
[01:40] <nacc> R13ose: at this point, you need to probably be using dpkg, and i need to go make dinner :)
[01:40] <R13ose> nacc: thanks
[01:41] <R13ose> nacc: I did remove -f and this came out with same output
[01:42] <nacc> R13ose: i would seriously consider installing ... you're on a pretty old release anyways :)
[01:42] <nacc> *reinstalling
[01:42] <seraphina> R13ose, You might need to note the names of all those packages it mentions and dpkg -r them all
[01:42] <jimes> #d3d9
[01:42] <jimes> oops, haha
[01:43] <fifty-sevenC> Hi, Does anyone else use Caja to verify a bug?
[01:43] <R13ose> seraphina: will that break anything?
[01:44] <seraphina> R13ose, Well it wont break things any worse than they already are, you are already in the position that most every C binary on the system that isn't already loaded into RAM is not executable.
[01:45] <R13ose> seraphina: oh
[01:45] <fifty-sevenC> sounds like someone umount -a
[01:45] <seraphina> R13ose, Thus why I was saying not to try logging out or rebooting since then the system would be unbootable
[01:45] <R13ose> seraphina: okay
[01:47] <seraphina> R13ose, But it looks like it's mostly skype being removed along with it's dependency tree because skype is propritary and only released in 32bit so it needs all 32bit libs
[01:47] <R13ose> okay
[01:50] <seraphina> R13ose, If even dpkg -r wont work though I am not sure there is a way around it would probably be better off downloading 15.10 and reinstalling in that case
[01:50] <bbaqar> newly moved to 15.10 .. getting a Error: Too many open files while starting libvirt-bin
[01:50] <R13ose> seraphina: I am trying the dpkg -r to see if that works
[01:51] <bbaqar> newly moved to 15.10 .. getting a Error: Too many open files while starting libvirt-bin
[01:51] <seraphina> R13ose, Ok, you might have better luck if you try removing the front ends like skype first then all the libraries and the libc6 at the end
[01:51] <daftykins> bbaqar: don't repeat so quick
[01:52] <bbaqar> draftkins: sorry. impatience
[01:52] <seraphina> bbaqar, Sounds like you will need to use ulimit -n to increase the limit
[01:53] <bbaqar> seraphina: set to 999999
[01:53] <bbaqar> Followed all the steps here: https://easyengine.io/tutorials/linux/increase-open-files-limit/
[01:55] <seraphina> bbaqar, Are you trying to start a service when this happens? If so you might need to check the startup script check that it isn't setting a limit
[01:57] <roracle> hey there, i have an interesting question and cannot seem to find an answer:  Alienware ships their laptops with a SSD where Windows is installed.  It has various other partitions, as well.  I have enough room for another active partition on the hard disk, so i made such a partition.  However, during the install of Ubuntu (or variant/flavor) it will not detect my hard drive (it's 1 terabyte) so I cannot choose it for install, thus I 
[01:57] <bbaqar> seraphina: was trying systemclt start libvirt-bin
[01:58] <seraphina> bbaqar, Ok then try setting a ulimit -n in the initscript for libvirt, by default think they are like 4096 for non login shells like services
[01:59] <fifty-sevenC> roracle, if windows is set up with dynamic drives they will not be detectable
[01:59] <seraphina> /etc/security/limits as I recall applies to login shells
[01:59] <roracle> fifty-sevenC: i have no idea what that means
[02:00] <fifty-sevenC> roracle, it could also be a EUFI or GPT proble
[02:01] <fifty-sevenC> roracle, In windows go to control panel and then Computer Administration.
[02:01] <fifty-sevenC> From there you can see if it is set as a Basic Disk or Dynamic Disk
[02:01] <roracle> fifty-sevenC: administrative tools? (i'm in Win10)
[02:02] <fifty-sevenC> Yes
[02:02] <roracle> there are other icons, which one would let me know?  none of them really seem to point to such a thing
[02:03] <fifty-sevenC> I can't remember the names. One of them should mention disks
[02:03] <roracle> they all say "basic"
[02:03] <roracle> i'm under "disk management"
[02:03] <fifty-sevenC> Ok. So it isn't a dynamic disk problem
[02:03] <roracle> layout, simple.  type, basic
[02:03] <roracle> hmm, okay
[02:03] <bbaqar> Seraphina: let me try
[02:04] <fifty-sevenC> roracle, Can you delete the partition you made and see if Ubuntu detects the free space?
[02:04] <seraphina> bbaqar, Btw I would try like 16384 or 65536 or something there is no reason any service should be opening much more than that unless something is seriously wrong.
[02:05] <roracle> yeah i can do that.  i might not have time tonight, was just in here to get a few ideas really.  but i'll do that tomorrow: delete ext4 partition, restart, install option, see if it shows?
[02:05] <fifty-sevenC> Yes
[02:05] <bbaqar> seraphina: is it possible that the limit i am setting isnt taking effect
[02:06] <seraphina> bbaqar, It wont take effect for starting a service no since it's not a login shell, services are different
[02:07] <roracle> okay will do that tomorrow then.  thanks for the insight!
[02:08] <bbaqar> seraphina: so best thing to do would be to set the limit in the libvirt init script?
[02:08] <seraphina> bbaqar, Yes, just adding like ulimit -n 16384 or ulimit -n 65536 or similar right before the start-stop-service line should do the trick
[02:09] <leo_86> hello
[02:09] <seraphina> bbaqar, It's because services don't log in and thus they don't go through PAM for authentication which would be where the /etc/security/limits file would come into things if I'm not mistaken
[02:31] <monty_hall> Hi
[02:31] <monty_hall> was wondering
[02:31] <monty_hall> I've never installed ubuntu server
[02:31] <monty_hall> but I'm under the impression that it will not install X
[02:31] <monty_hall> is this correct?
[02:31] <monty_hall> here's what I need to do
[02:31] <monty_hall> I need to install an nvidia driver - not neuavo
[02:31] <monty_hall> the proprietary version
[02:32] <monty_hall> apparently, there's an nvidia tool that will allow me to the display to nothing
[02:32] <monty_hall> and then create a virtual frame buffer
[02:32] <monty_hall> I need this for headless rendering.
[02:32] <monty_hall> that's basically where I'm going
[02:32] <monty_hall> is installing the driver as simple as apt-get install?
[02:33] <ouroumov>  monty_hall, you aim to do cuda-based stuff?
[02:33] <monty_hall> that too
[02:33] <monty_hall> I need to render synthetic images via opengl
[02:33] <monty_hall> then I need to use cuda apps like "caffe"
[02:33] <monty_hall> it has to run on our supercomputer
[02:34] <monty_hall> so, I'm going to get a small system set up to demonstrate how to render headless.
[02:34] <monty_hall> if that's possible...
[02:34] <monty_hall> since it's in a super computer there will literraly be no display
[02:35] <lapyo> everything is possible with GNU/Linux
[02:35] <ouroumov> I assume you've checked this out already monty_hall? http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-installation-guide-linux/
[02:36] <ouroumov> That's what I used to set up dual titan-X on a rack server for my lab.
[02:36] <monty_hall> w/ cuda can I also render opengl?
[02:36] <monty_hall> lemme restate
[02:37] <monty_hall> clearly they're two differnt things
[02:37] <monty_hall> but I wondering if it will also allow me to create an opengl context too
[02:37] <promet> nacc, how should I be thinking about storage in lxc, i.e. when I setup a remote lxd, where and at what size does it initialize its "virtual disk"? If you know what I mean..
[02:38] <promet> nacc, pardon, I mean to say "built-in", not "remote" lxd
[02:38] <promet> i.e. lxc launch ubuntu-daily:16.04 my-ubuntu-dev
[02:38] <ouroumov> monty_hall, quoting from the link: "If installing the driver, the installer will also ask if the openGL libraries should be installed."
[02:38]  * monty_hall hugs ouroumov
[02:38] <monty_hall> \o/
[02:39] <monty_hall> what linux did you use?
[02:39] <monty_hall> ubuntu?
[02:39] <monty_hall> if so, the server version (i'd assume so)
[02:39] <monty_hall> ?
[02:39] <ouroumov> Yes, 14.04. I had tried first with debian 8 but it was a PITA (pardon my French)
[02:39] <monty_hall> that's exactly what I'm looking for
[02:39] <monty_hall> the sever version?
[02:39] <ouroumov> Yes
[02:40] <monty_hall> cool
[02:40] <monty_hall> I hope this works for me
[02:40] <monty_hall> I tried Xvfb and it doesn't like GLX
[02:40] <promet> which, I guess, really, is ""built-in remote"
[02:43] <nacc> promet: sorry, not around right now really -- i'd ask in #lxc (iirc)
[02:50] <promet> nacc, no worries, will do. Thanks!
[02:54] <R13ose> How do I remove packages and all the dependencies without having to remove each dependencies one at a time?  I am using sudo dpkg --purge libxft-dev
[03:25] <dillon_> is there any software like the windows version usb boot tool?
[03:27] <uruk7> hello
[03:27] <exedore6> dillon_: What do you mean? Like to write a bootable usb?
[03:28] <dillon_> yeah, make a usb bootable for any OS
[03:28] <uruk7> in ubuntu when in file in first line #!/bin/awk then not found  -> how execute awk file program in ubuntu system?
[03:29] <xangua> dillon_: for any...like what?
[03:29] <exedore6> uruk7, awk lives in /usr/bin
[03:30] <exedore6> So start your script with #!/usr/bin/awk and it'll find it.
[03:30] <dillon_> exedore6 anything from linux variants to windows variants
[03:31] <uruk7> not work with #!/usr/bin/awk -f
[03:31] <exedore6> Any OS is tricky. It sounds like you're looking for something like Yumi?
[03:32] <exedore6> dillon_, Take a look at this - http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[03:32] <exedore6> I've only used the windows version but there are links for debs.
[03:33] <exedore6> It downloads and unpacks the iso for different bootable systems, and configures a boot loader to select from multiple.
[03:33] <dillon_> oh ok, thanks greatly appricated
[03:34] <uruk7> exedore6 in /usr/bin/ only link awk -> /etc/alternatives/awk*
[03:35] <uruk7> output error with #!/usr/bin/awk
[03:35] <exedore6> What does 'which awk' return?
[03:36]  * gr33nbits is away: Busy...
[03:36] <exedore6> My system has /etc/alternatives/awk linked to /usr/bin/gawk
[03:38] <jim> exedore6, not sure, but gawk is probably a reasonable awk
[03:39] <exedore6> jim, I agree. uruk7's trying to find his.
[03:39] <uruk7> i have a file named aaa.awk in first line i put #!/usr/bin/awk -f and then the program lines ; when i put aaa.awk output don't find order
[03:42] <exedore6> Is aaa.awk executable?
[03:44] <uruk7> exedore in aaa.awk -> #!/usr/bin/awk;BEGIN { print "hello" }; -> i wnat when i put in shell aaa.awk output hello, is it possible?
[03:51] <krycek> #!/usr/bin/awk -f
[03:51] <krycek> BEGIN { print "hello" };
[03:51] <krycek> uruk7: ↑
[03:51] <exedore6> Beat me to it.
[03:52] <jim> krycek, what's the -f? and why is awk complaining about .?
[03:53] <exedore6> jim, the -f is for read from file (instead of the command line)
[03:53] <exedore6> I don't know why read from file counts in a script.
[03:54] <exedore6> As far as I can see, it complains about . when it's missing the -f argument.
[03:54] <exedore6> I can't see where the . is coming from though.
[03:54] <jim> the -f made it say hello
[03:55] <uruk7> krycek -> not work the output is : pro.awk: no se encontro la orden
[03:56] <exedore6> uruk7, pro.awk needs to be executable.
[03:56] <exedore6> chmod +x pro.awk
[03:57] <uruk7> same error
[03:58] <petr_> ahoj vsichni! Muj prvni den s Xubuntu / po letech s windows :)  Poradite mi nekdo prosim? Nemuzu zprovoznit sim modem huawei3131. Procet jsem na netu, co se dalo, nechal jsem si poradit i od cloveka, co s ubuntu pracuje nekolik let, a nic. Prosim ale mejte se mnou trpelivost, jsem fakt zacatecnik
[03:59] <uruk7> -rwxrwxr-x 1 uruk uruk   77 mar  5 04:54 pro.awk*
[03:59] <exedore6> ./pro.awk
[03:59] <mobile> hello
[03:59] <krycek> !cs | petr_
[04:00] <uruk7> yes exedore
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> krycek: xchat is not longer maintained, hexchat is alternative
[04:01] <uruk7> work with ./pro.awk
[04:01] <krycek> !en | petr_
[04:01] <uruk7> its possible work with pro.awk?
[04:02] <petr_> Problem s tim modemem je, ze pri prvnim zapojeni funguje jako CD storage, kde se ukazujou instalacky, ale jen pro windows. zkusil jsem modeswitch, ale asi to neumim. pri dalsim zapojeni se sice neobjevuji instalacky, ale stejne mi to nefunguje
[04:03] <petr_> oh, I see. I will loook for czech forum
[04:09] <petr_> hi everybody! My first day with Xubuntu - just migrated from windows! :-) But, I am lost. My first task: to make my sim-card modem huawei3131 work. Can someone help me? Please, patiently, I am a real linux novice.
[04:09] <petr_> The problem is, that this modem has a dual regime. First, it functions as a CD disc and shows installation programs, but just for windows. If they would be installed, the next time the modem is inserted into USB, it would connect to internet. I tried to use usb_modeswitch, but i guess I did not really know how - it does not work. Thanks for help
[04:22] <R13ose> My whole system is broken
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: start from the beginning
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !details | R13ose
[04:23] <madh69> i have tried to force my xorg.conf to get 1920 resolution but am not succesful i must be doing someting wrong
[04:23] <R13ose> Well, I removed a huge number of packages using "sudo dpkg -r --force-depends" and now I want to get everything back but unsure how.
[04:23] <madh69> currrently getting 1140x1024 to 800x600
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> madh69: your on the right graphics driver?
[04:24] <madh69> yes
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> madh69: wich chipset and driver please?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: start from the beginning...you forced packages why exactly?
[04:26] <madh69> display UNCLAIMED
[04:26] <madh69>        description: VGA compatible controller
[04:26] <madh69>        product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Control
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> madh69: so not the right driver
[04:26] <R13ose> because I am on 12.04 and I upgrade libc6 and that broke my whole system.  I didn't know that would do this but now I am going down the rabbit hole.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: you upgraded libc6 manually instead of sudo apt-get upgrade?
[04:27] <R13ose> lotuspsychje: yes as I don't want to upgrade at the moment.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> madh69: go check your additional drivers section
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: thats a very bad idea mate, always keep up to date
[04:28] <madh69> how can i view the driver i did a   lshw -c video
[04:28] <R13ose> lotuspsychje: I know but now I need to fix this so I can move on.
[04:28] <madh69> notihng in there i checked
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: how did you upgrade that lib? with a ppa?
[04:28] <madh69> my gpu is 2nd gen chipset running of cpu it seems to be correct
[04:28] <madh69> i5-2400
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> madh69: as your card is unclaimed, driver= will not list neither
[04:29] <madh69> ohh i see is that why my driver is in vesa mode?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> madh69: sudo lshw -C video would be right command to see
[04:29] <R13ose> lotuspsychje: with sudo dpkg -i libc6_2.17-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb and I know that is bad news now.
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !paste | madh69
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | R13ose try this mate
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: recoverymode==>fix broken packages
[04:30] <R13ose> lotuspsychje: how do I fix them?
[04:31] <madh69> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289143/
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: thats an option from recoverymode, read the url please
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> madh69: your on ubuntu server?
[04:33] <madh69> i have xrdp
[04:33] <madh69> using gnome
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> madh69: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[04:33] <R13ose> lotuspsychje: thanks I will try that.
[04:33] <Nicholas1> my internet stops after 5 mins
[04:33] <madh69> 14.04 LTS
[04:33] <Nicholas1> why so?
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> !details | Nicholas1
[04:34] <Nicholas1> i am using ubuntu 14.04
[04:34] <jeffreylevesque> I'm getting "/var/lib/dpkg/info/install-info.postinst: 32: /var/lib/dpkg/info/install-info.postinst: update-info-dir: not found"
[04:34] <Nicholas1> when i boot the pc. the internet works fine for like 5-10 mins
[04:34] <Nicholas1> after than it completely stops
[04:34] <Nicholas1> nothing works
[04:34] <Nicholas1> that*
[04:35] <Nicholas1> though it shows as connected
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas1: tail -f /var/log/syslog and pastebin us the error whats happening
[04:35] <jeffreylevesque> i get that error when i do `apt-get build-dep scikit-learn -y`
[04:35] <Nicholas1> it started happening just two days before
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> jeffreylevesque: start from the beginning, ubuntu version, you tryed what
[04:35] <Nicholas1> also its running fine on windows 7
[04:35] <jeffreylevesque> ubuntu 14.04
[04:35] <solidus-1iver> hey all, i'm having a hell of a time getting value out of docker compose
[04:35] <solidus-1iver> i have 2 containers i need linked, only way to link them is via up
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> solidus-1iver: there is a #docker channel if you like
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> madh69: check your additional drivers section please
[04:36] <solidus-1iver> oh man, i'm sorry ,i dont get hohw i ended up here
[04:36] <madh69> I have there is nothing there
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> madh69: lsb_release -a please?
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> jeffreylevesque: tell us what your trying to do?
[04:39] <jeffreylevesque> I'm trying to install all dependencies for the apt-get package `scikit-learn`
[04:39] <madh69> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289175/
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> jeffreylevesque: added a ppa?
[04:40] <madh69> i tried but it was down, i dunno
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> madh69: tried what?
[04:41] <jeffreylevesque> lotuspsychje: i didn't install any ppa's
[04:41] <Nicholas1> sorry i got disconnected
[04:41] <Nicholas1> lotuspsychje it says syslog not found
[04:41] <Nicholas1> there is no such file
[04:41] <Nicholas1> what to do
[04:42] <madh69> with the intel driver manager but it wouldnt work the site is  half down
[04:42] <jeffreylevesque> this is what I did - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/blob/c6e04c7cee7170d9e3bac9d5fdf4c0db694129bb/puppet/manifests/install_sklearn.pp#L17
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> !info scikit-learn
[04:42] <Nicholas1> please help
[04:42] <jeffreylevesque> this is my traceback - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/issues/2349#issuecomment-192255895
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas1: did you enter the right command? tail -f /var/log/syslog
[04:43] <Nicholas1> has my linux network drivers corrupted lotuspsychje?
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> jeffreylevesque: ask the maintainer of the git site
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas1: we need to findout whats happening first
[04:44] <Nicholas1> i even tried on a live distro and still no luck
[04:44] <Nicholas1> it still gets disconnected after 5 mins
[04:44] <Nicholas1> please help
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas1: please dont ask for 'help' every minute
[04:44] <Nicholas1> yes lotuspsychje
[04:45] <Nicholas1> sorry
[04:45] <Nicholas1> but this is  really making my pc unusable
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas1: pastebin us the tail
[04:46] <madh69> multitasker lotuspsychje is "yoda voice"
[04:46] <madh69> ;)
[04:46] <Nicholas1> it says "no such file or directory "
[04:47] <Nicholas1> :-(
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas1: pastebin me your command and the error please
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas1: are you up to date to 14.04.4 and what network chipset do you have? wifi? cable?
[04:48] <R13ose> Back.  I am stuck in grub command line.  What do I do?
[04:49] <Nicholas1> lotuspsychje yes i am upto date . i using a 3g modem
[04:49] <Nicholas1> vodafone one
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: what do you mean stuck
[04:49] <Nicholas1> it started hapenning suddenly . just two before it  was just fine
[04:49] <Nicholas1> i am really confused
[04:49] <R13ose> I can't get pass grub
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas1: pastebin me the command + error please
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: did you choose ubuntu(recoverymode) from grub?
[04:51] <Nicholas1> lotuspsychje when i types messages in place of 'syslog' it worked . its showing some info now
[04:51] <mattkim> hello everyone~
[04:51] <Nicholas1> typed*
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas1: you typed what?
[04:52] <R13ose> Yes and says: Loading Linux 3.13.0-80-generic .... Error: file not found. Loading inital ramdisk ... error: you need to load kernel first.
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: that doesnt sound too good mate...
[04:53] <madh69> lotuspsychje what do i do now?
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic precise
[04:53] <madh69> im having the hardest time finding drivers for intel hd 2000
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> madh69: was this fresh install or upgrade?
[04:54] <madh69> fresh
[04:54] <R13ose> What do I do?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> madh69: did you enable cable + updates during setup?
[04:54] <madh69> yes
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: tried other kernels?
[04:55] <itsgokul> notify-send doesnot send message in ubuntu 14.10
[04:55] <itsgokul> why
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> !eol | itsgokul
[04:55] <R13ose> How?
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> itsgokul: install a supported version from topic please
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: select another kernel from your list
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: from grub
[04:56] <R13ose> There is only the one and memtest
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> madh69: i would try a fresh reinstall 14.04.4 or 15.10, + cable+updates if that doesnt recognise your intel driver file a new bug please
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: fresh reinstall then
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> !bug | madh69
[04:58] <madh69> ??
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> madh69: check also your syslog/dmesg to see whats happening to your intel card
[04:59] <R13ose> Nothing else I can do?
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: this is what you get when not update your system, older kernel, security holes, issues to your system...you can get into recoverymode anymore,etc
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: =fresh reinstall
[05:01] <R13ose> Live USB will not work?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: to do what?
[05:01] <R13ose> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:02] <madh69> there is so much stuff what should i look for to search
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: why dont you want to fresh install a 14.04.4?
[05:04] <R13ose> Because I lose everything.  If I can keep everything, then I will switch for sure.
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: you can save your /home at the setup of a new install
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> madh69: anything related to your intel graphics
[05:07] <Nicholas1> what is this error option_instat_callback error 108  lotuspsychje?
[05:07] <R13ose> I will try this link I found and if doesn't work I will see if I can do anything else.
[05:08] <madh69> im not seeing anything i look somemore
[05:08] <Nicholas1> sorry i am constantly getting disconnected lotuspsychje
[05:08] <Nicholas1> i did dmesg and found this error lotuspsychje
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas1: sounds like a huawei bug to the kernel
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !bug | Nicholas1
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas1: file a new bug, togheter with your logs/error and explain whats happening + ubuntu version
[05:13] <madh69> im not seeing anyting related to the gpu?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> madh69: pastebin the whole syslog please, ill take a look
[05:21] <madh69> ok thanks, its huge keeps rashing mozilla
[05:21] <madh69> lol
[05:23] <madh69> how can i send you the txt file? keeps crashing to much text? :)
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> madh69: sure
[05:33] <notblu> hola :p
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !es | notblu
[05:34] <notblu> hi?
[05:35] <madh69> hi
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> madh69: is that desktop or server?
[05:41] <sunit> Ethernet not working in xubuntu...plz help
[05:41] <plytro_> sunit: anything more descriptive than "not working"
[05:41] <sunit> the commands show wlan0 and lo...but not eth0
[05:42] <madh69> desktop
[05:42] <sunit> laptop
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> madh69: but the machine is a server right?
[05:44] <madh69> i have gnome installed  i have ui?
[05:44] <madh69> i use it like a server yes
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> madh69: well syslog doesnt show anything unusual
[05:45] <madh69> i get no errors just dont get the resolution of 1920... are you sure the hd 2000 intel drivers are not installed? it thought they came with ubuntu
[05:46] <madh69> okay thanks for looking into the logs appriciate it
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> madh69: so im not sure why your graphics dont get recognized..maybe try the fresh reinstall
[05:46] <plytro> sunit: ip ad only shows 2 interfaces?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> madh69: if it doesnt recognize from a fresh, i would file a bug
[05:46] <madh69> i fixed it once, but it broke i cant get it to go again, i created xorg.conf and added entries
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> madh69: messing with xorg isnt the way to solve this, as your driver isnt active
[05:47] <madh69> basicly your sure the drivers are not installed? or are they  not working properly?
[05:47] <hicoleri> Why does mount say this when I try to mount a partition?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289485/
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> madh69: we checked sudo lshw -C video earlier and showed unclaimed..
[05:49] <alkisg_away> hicoleri: it usually means that the file system is so broken that mount cannot detect its type. What's the output of sudo fdisk -l?
[05:49] <madh69> okay
[05:50] <madh69> this sucks... i cant find drivers online intel hd 2000
[05:50] <arooni> is there a way to test to see whether or not i've encrypted my home directory on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[05:50] <hicoleri> alkisg:http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289498/
[05:51] <alkisg> hicoleri: you only have sda1, yet you tried to mount sda9?!
[05:51] <alkisg> Ah sorry gpt
[05:51] <alkisg> What's the output of `sudo parted -l` ?
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> madh69: ubuntu is suppose to load drivers automaticly, if not somethigns wrong and might need a bug
[05:52] <madh69> ok thanks
[05:52] <hicoleri> alkisg:Everything was working a day ago... Anyway:http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289504/
[05:53] <alkisg> hicoleri: and the output of `dmesg|tail` after you try mounting it?
[05:53] <alkisg> It seems like your ext4 file system got corrupted
[05:54] <alkisg> madh69: your problem is that you don't have all resolutions available?
[05:54] <hicoleri> alkisg:http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289510/
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: his card driver doesnt load, and got unclaimed card
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: nothing to see from syslog either
[05:55] <alkisg> hicoleri: where does "x-gvfs-show" come from? How are you trying to mount it?
[05:55] <hicoleri> alkisg:using sudo mount -rw /dev/sda9
[05:56] <alkisg> hicoleri: try sudo mount /dev/sda9 /mnt
[05:56] <alkisg> That should ignore the options present in /etc/fstab...
[05:57] <hicoleri> alkisg:Okay, that worked. Should I edit /etc/fstab manually?
[05:57] <alkisg> sudo umount /mnt
[05:57] <alkisg> The paste your fstab
[05:57] <alkisg> *then
[05:58] <hicoleri> alkisg:http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289527/
[05:59] <alkisg> hicoleri: that seems like you put it there manually, right?
[05:59] <alkisg> Were you following some tutorial?
[05:59] <alkisg> Why did you put it in fstab?
[05:59] <hicoleri> alkisg:nope, I did not touch it.
[05:59] <sploozer> hello I have a python script I'm trying to run on ubuntu 14.04. I'm getting a traceback (most recent call last) file "foobar" line 281 in <module> except socket.error as e: Name Error: name 'socket' is not defined.  This seems ambiguous.  Any ideas what package I may be missing?
[06:00] <alkisg> hicoleri, ok, I think you should completely remove that line, you can still automount ext4 partitions from nautilus
[06:00] <hicoleri> alkisg:which one?
[06:00] <alkisg> Line 16, the last one
[06:07] <hicoleri> alkisg:Nothing trivial but, why did my terminal fortune cookies go away (not now, but after the problem took place. I was using the fortune cookie option in xfce4. It unchecks itself.)
[06:07] <alkisg> hicoleri: I don't know what fortune cookies are
[06:07] <alkisg> I'm not using xfce
[06:08] <hicoleri> alkisg:Okay then
[06:16] <weblizar> help me How to increase the
[06:16] <weblizar> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda         47G   45G     0 100% / devtmpfs        3.9G  4.0K  3.9G   1% /dev none            799M  280K  798M   1% /run none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock none            3.9G     0  3.9G   0% /run/shm overflow        1.0M     0  1.0M   0% /tmp
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | weblizar
[06:17] <weblizar> mysql "not restarting"
[06:21] <madh69> The following packages have been kept back:      libgbm1   ??? what does this mean
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> madh69: what are you doing
[06:22] <madh69> trying to update my packages
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> madh69: did you add ppa's in the past
[06:25] <madh69> yeah i have but libgbm1 has to do with ubuntu i think
[06:25] <karrot> hi, I'm curious about the difference between mplayer and mplayer2
[06:25] <madh69> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libs/libgbm1
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !info smplayer | karrot
[06:27] <karrot> lotuspsychje, thank you
[06:29] <madh69> i said update but its  when i do upgrade sory
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> madh69: i would really recommend a clean reinstall, no ppa's and see if your driver gets recognized last time im saying this now :p
[06:29] <madh69> it is a fresh install i added like 2 ppa for conky and something else
[06:30] <madh69> 10day old install
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> madh69: then file a bug for your intel card
[06:31] <madh69> alrigth
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> madh69: and if you add external ppa's you can expect issues like now when upgrading
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | madh69
[06:32] <madh69> this is a ubuntu upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> madh69: after you add ppa's your on your own mate, ubuntu not responsible anymore for your actions
[06:33] <hicoleri> Why isn't the trash folder visible anymore in my file manager?
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> hicoleri: ubuntu version?
[06:34] <madh69> this is a ubuntu upgrade sudo apt-get |||| dist-upgrade ||| its a distribution upgrade from ubuntu
[06:34] <hicoleri> lotuspyschje:Yes
[06:34] <madh69> is it because other dependencies havnt cought up yet?
[06:34] <madh69> and its held back?
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> madh69: what did i just tell you?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> madh69: update, upgrade,dist-upgrade shouls all work like a charm on a clean system
[06:36] <madh69> hmm
[06:36] <svm_invictvs> Hey, so I want to install postgresql 9.3
[06:36] <svm_invictvs> but I search on pacakges.ubuntu.org and it shows the earliest version available is 9.4, is there another source I can add to use it?
[06:36] <svm_invictvs> Maybe form an older release of ubuntu?
[06:36] <hicoleri> lotuspsychje:14.04, with xfce
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> !latest | svm_invictvs
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> svm_invictvs: wich ubuntu version do you have
[06:37] <svm_invictvs> 15.10
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> hicoleri: maybe the #xubuntu guys might know?
[06:37] <svm_invictvs> lotuspsychje What's #xubuntu?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> svm_invictvs: that wasnt for you mate
[06:38] <svm_invictvs> oh, for x11
[06:38] <svm_invictvs> derp
[06:38] <svm_invictvs> lotuspsychje I don't want the latest...I think you misunderstood
[06:38] <alkisg> svm_invictvs: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=postgresql => 14.04 does have 9.3
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> !info postgresql | svm_invictvs
[06:39] <alkisg> svm_invictvs: maybe you should install 14.04 instead of 15.10, and it's an LTS release as well...
[06:39] <svm_invictvs> eah
[06:39] <svm_invictvs> yeah
[06:39] <svm_invictvs> I just spent the day setting up this box, uf
[06:40] <svm_invictvs> lotuspsychje ...can I just add the trusty sources?
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> svm_invictvs: no
[06:40] <svm_invictvs> hm
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> svm_invictvs: not recommended to mix versions
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> svm_invictvs: follow the advise of alkisg
[06:40] <hicoleri> lotuspsychje: I installed ubuntu minimal and then installed xfce. Actually, all my mountable partitions weren't visible anymore because of something, along with my terminal fortune cookies and access to my /media/$user/ directory was denied for some reason.(I fixed it a while ago)
[06:41] <svm_invictvs> lotuspsychje I jsut set up two 15.10 boxes...looks like I'm 0 for 2 on them heh
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> hicoleri: minimal is bit expert, any reason you chosen that?
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> svm_invictvs: dont mix package versions :p
[06:41] <hicoleri> lotuspsychje:I wanted to install everything by myself.
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> hicoleri: you could install xubuntu a,d strip it the way you need?
[06:43] <svm_invictvs> lotuspsychje I know.  I'm saying I just gotta set up two new boxes again, heh
[06:43] <hicoleri> lotuspsychje: I would but my laptop wouldn't boot to my usb or cd anymore. The boot selection meny only shows "ubuntu"
[06:43] <hicoleri> *ubuntu
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> hicoleri: try F12 to boot stuff? or plop boot manager?
[06:44] <hicoleri> lotuspsychje:Thats what i'm talking about
[06:45] <madh69> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgbm1 : Depends: libgl1-mesa-dri (= 11.0.4~git20151026+11.0.ec14e6f8-0ubuntu0ricotz~trusty) , how can i fix this ?
[06:46] <alkisg> madh69: there's no such version in http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgl1-mesa-dri
[06:47] <alkisg> Some of your PPAs is broken
[06:47] <alkisg> So to fix it, remove it
[06:47] <alkisg> You can't fix other people's broken PPAs by magic, you need to remove them if they're broken
[06:47] <svm_invictvs> Actually installing one box isn't so bad
[06:48] <svm_invictvs> well
[06:48] <svm_invictvs> two
[06:48] <svm_invictvs> I dind't do anythign to set up th other
[06:48] <svm_invictvs> so
[06:48] <svm_invictvs> ...yay...
[06:48] <krycek> hicoleri: Reg. your trash issue, is 'gvfs' installed?
[06:49] <svm_invictvs> And, I irritated the bot.  Whoops.
[06:51] <hicoleri> krycek:yep
[06:51] <svm_invictvs> lotuspsychje Than's for the tip.
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> svm_invictvs: np
[06:56] <svm_invictvs> The installer asks me if I want to unmount?  I should nuke my old partitions completely not try to keep what's there right?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> !partition | svm_invictvs
[06:57] <svm_invictvs> nah
[06:57] <svm_invictvs> Just nuking and starting over
[06:58] <svm_invictvs> I realized how much of a hare brained idea it was after I asked.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> svm_invictvs: nothing better then a clean fresh install
[06:59] <svm_invictvs> Yeah, most of the time I "wasted" with 15.10 was fiddling with stuff that I know how to setup like that
[07:11] <redux> hi
[07:21] <Thorax2015> Hi all. I'm installing Ubuntu 15.10 from the minimal iso. Im wondering how best to go about installing cinnamon DE
[07:23] <Thorax2015> I just chose "Manual Package Selection" in the Software Selection page.
[07:23] <easyOnMe> is there a way to capture replies from freenode chat when I log out
[07:23] <easyOnMe> and be able to get them when I log in
[07:24] <Thorax2015> No, you need to use a cloud irc, or something like Quassel
[07:24] <baizon> easyOnMe: check log or use a bnc
[07:24] <easyOnMe> what is a bnc and how to use it
[07:24] <easyOnMe> darn ofc now closing
[07:24] <easyOnMe> that is what I meant
[07:24] <easyOnMe> when I log out now
[07:25] <easyOnMe> once I reach home I can see your replies when I log in
[07:25] <baizon> easyOnMe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_%28software%29
[07:25] <baizon> easyOnMe: yes then bnc
[07:26] <Thorax2015> https://www.irccloud.com/
[07:26] <EriC^^> or get a shell and run screen + irssi
[07:26] <baizon> easyOnMe: most use http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC
[07:26] <baizon> easyOnMe: or what EriC^^ is suggesting
[07:26] <EriC^^> #bshellz #xshellz or /msg alis list bnc
[07:27] <baizon> Thorax2015: yeah ill use a 3rd party for my private chats :D
[07:27] <EriC^^> there's a ton of channels who offer free bnc
[07:27] <boris2015> Which one is good?
[07:27] <Thorax2015> Quassel should be able to do what you need. Last time I used it
[07:28] <boris2015> Hey look we have similar name what a coincidence
[07:28] <baizon> you guys discover irc in 2015? =)
[07:29] <baizon> discovered*
[07:31] <Thorax2015> ffs, Ubuntu installed the bootloader onto the usb...
[07:32] <boris2015> Lol that's good
[07:32] <boris2015> Extra security
[07:32] <Thorax2015> hahaha
[07:32] <Thorax2015> god damn it
[07:32] <Thorax2015> I didnt select the usb for anything during partitioning
[07:33] <Thorax2015> Is there anyway to fix it or should I just reinstall using a CD?
[07:33] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: you can chroot and reinstall grub
[07:33] <Thorax2015> Thats some linux logic right there btw...
[07:33] <Thorax2015> How does that work EriC^^ ?
[07:33] <EriC^^> or actually just boot it using the usb, and just grub-install to the disk
[07:33] <boris2015> Theres some manual steps that you need to do
[07:33] <EriC^^> try booting it from the usb
[07:33] <Thorax2015> I'm currently logged in
[07:34] <Thorax2015> Just a command line
[07:34] <EriC^^> in the actual install?
[07:34] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:34] <Thorax2015> Ive put the USB back in, and not booted from the usb, but Ubuntu minimal has loaded, not the installer
[07:35] <Thorax2015> On the command line it asked for a login and password, which was my username I entered during the install
[07:35] <EriC^^> ok
[07:35] <EriC^^> type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[07:36] <Mrokii> Hello. Is there a way to somehow show the number of the currently used workspace on the screen? Something like a see-through number that changes whenever one switches to another workspace.
[07:36] <Thorax2015> Mrokii:  Depends on your DE
[07:36] <Thorax2015> EriC^^:  Is that a L after the first - ?
[07:36] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:36] <Thorax2015> cheers thankyou
[07:37] <Thorax2015> EriC^^:  I take it i need sudo? XD
[07:37] <EriC^^> nope
[07:37] <EriC^^> did it say not found?
[07:37] <Thorax2015> yeah
[07:37] <Thorax2015> no such file or directory
[07:37] <EriC^^> ok, so you're not using uefi
[07:38] <EriC^^> is /dev/sda your main hdd?
[07:38] <Thorax2015> Ahh, i just disabled it to try and boot
[07:38] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l
[07:38] <Thorax2015> One sec, i'll renable it
[07:38] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: no it's fine
[07:38] <Thorax2015> damn, too late
[07:38] <EriC^^> it depends on how you installed, you can't switch backa nd forth
[07:38] <Thorax2015> UEFI is recomended right?
[07:38] <Thorax2015> It was installed with UEFI enabled
[07:38] <Mrokii> Thorax2015: I'm talking about a standard Ubuntu-installation with Unity/compiz.
[07:38] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: type grep efi /etc/fstab
[07:39] <EriC^^> and tell us if there's a /boot/efi line
[07:39] <Thorax2015> Hmmm.... UEFI is enabled still
[07:39] <Thorax2015> EriC^^:  Will do, one sec
[07:40] <Thorax2015> The laptop has two drives btw, sda and sdc afaik, sda is a 500GB and sdc is a 16GB
[07:40] <EriC^^> ubuntu is on the 500gb one?
[07:41] <Gallomimia> df -h
[07:41] <Gallomimia> great command to have a gander at what's what
[07:41] <Thorax2015> Yeah sortof. I put /boot /swap /var and /home on the 500GB and / on the 16gb
[07:42] <EriC^^> aha
[07:42] <Thorax2015> It isnt booting at all now
[07:42] <EriC^^> try disabling uefi
[07:42] <Thorax2015> haha, doing that
[07:42] <Gallomimia> is the 16gig a thumb drive?
[07:43] <Thorax2015> No, ssd
[07:43] <Gallomimia> oh cool
[07:43] <Thorax2015> hmmm... I may just put it on a CD and try again
[07:43] <Gallomimia> um... sounds like it's a hybrid drive
[07:44] <Thorax2015> Yeah i thought it was when i first got the laptop, but its not
[07:44] <Thorax2015> Two different brands, two physical drives
[07:44] <Thorax2015> ha, gonna have to boot into ubuntu live in order to burn the iso to disk
[07:45] <Gallomimia> ok. i thought that might explain why uefi was having problems
[07:45] <EriC^^> if you boot into ubuntu live
[07:45] <EriC^^> you can fix it
[07:45] <Gallomimia> but yes. if you're using uefi. you need a separate /boot/EFI partition
[07:45] <Gallomimia> ubuntu live should have an automagic fixer for that
[07:45] <Thorax2015> Yeah thats what i thought, but there was no option for it during install
[07:45] <baizon> ... and dont forget to boot from it
[07:46] <baizon> Thorax2015: yes there is, when you chose "automatically"
[07:46] <Thorax2015> i knoooooww
[07:47] <Thorax2015> Im using the minimal iso to install btw, the live one i have is the full thing
[07:47] <Thorax2015> Which i dont want to install
[07:47] <Thorax2015> ffs, it aint booting from anything now
[07:48] <Dsbeerf> Hello, is there a way to redo a dpkg-reconfigure or run ubiquity in text mode to add more package after a server install ?
[07:49] <EriC^^> Dsbeerf: maybe look into tasksel
[07:49] <EriC^^> !info tasksel
[07:50] <Thorax2015> Wow... I literally cant boot into anything now. I select the device and I just get a blank screen
[07:50] <Dsbeerf> EriC^^: that what i was looking for thanks :)
[07:50] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:51] <Thorax2015> Hm... I can boot into windows installation though
[07:52] <Thorax2015> Well, i have no idea whats going on
[07:53] <EriC^^> is fast boot enabled?
[07:53] <Thorax2015> Nope
[07:53] <Thorax2015> It will boot into the W10 setup, but not any linux distro I have.
[07:54] <EriC^^> is secureboot disabled?
[07:54] <EriC^^> i think you enabled uefi
[07:54] <Thorax2015> Yeah i did
[07:54] <EriC^^> and the install was in legacy
[07:54] <Thorax2015> But it was enabled anyway
[07:54] <Thorax2015> It has been enabled the whole time
[07:55] <Thorax2015> I was able to install from the mini iso with UEFI enabled
[07:55] <EriC^^> how'd that work though
[07:55] <EriC^^> with no efi partition
[07:55] <arrow> hello
[07:55] <Thorax2015> Well atleast it loaded the installer
[07:56] <Thorax2015> The problem was that it either installed GRUB to the USB, or the fact that it didnt allow me to choose a boot/efi partition
[07:56] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: is secureboot enabled?
[07:56] <Guest78836> how can i find all commands that i have ran from terminal since first login
[07:56] <EriC^^> Guest78836: "history"
[07:57] <Guest78836> EriC^^, it gives me just from 994 to 1995
[07:57] <Guest78836> i dont see 1000 commands then
[07:58] <EriC^^> it gets truncated
[07:58] <jushur> Guest78836: note that bash_history does not append, it rewrites. thus if you have multipple terminmals open. you may lose some used commands.
[07:59] <Guest78836> it means that i cant restore all commands that i have used?
[07:59] <Thorax2015> ok EriC^^. ive disabled UEFI and the Ubuntu 15.04 live cd has loaded
[07:59] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:00] <Thorax2015> Eh... I may have jumped the gun. Its loading haha
[08:00] <Thorax2015> CD drives are much slower than USB ofcourse
[08:00] <EriC^^> yeh
[08:01] <EriC^^> did you disable secureboot?
[08:01] <Thorax2015> I disabled UEFI yeah
[08:01] <EriC^^> you're going to need it
[08:01] <drink1n_> i found a nice font but it charges. http://www.fsd.it/shop/fonts/pragmatapro
[08:01] <EriC^^> for win10
[08:01] <drink1n_> what font for coding, you use?
[08:01] <Thorax2015> Im not using win10 on the laptop
[08:02] <Thorax2015> drink1n_:  on windows, segoe
[08:02] <EriC^^> it'll make life easier if you ever want to
[08:02] <drink1n_> Thorax2015: mono one?
[08:02] <Thorax2015> Should I enable it and boot from the Ubuntu CD again?
[08:02] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: well leave it loading
[08:02] <Thorax2015> drink1n_:  I dont do any programming on Linux
[08:03] <EriC^^> and type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:03] <EriC^^> so we can get an idea of what the setup is
[08:03] <Thorax2015> kk
[08:03] <Guest78836> which command give me all lines does exist in a file?
[08:03] <EriC^^> Guest78836: cat <file>
[08:04] <Guest78836> EriC^^, i need to count lines
[08:04] <Guest78836> EriC^^, how can i do that?
[08:04] <EriC^^> wc -l < file
[08:05] <Guest78836> EriC^^, i get 2000 commands in bash)history
[08:06] <Guest78836> bash_history
[08:06] <Guest78836> it is great
[08:06] <Thorax2015> ok EriC^^, I get "nc: getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution"  "Warning: Unabble to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system). /dev/sr0 has been opened read only"
[08:07] <Guest78836> what is difference between EFI and normal boot?
[08:07] <Guest78836> i am going to install ubuntu 14.04
[08:07] <Thorax2015> Thats a question for google really guest78836
[08:08] <Thorax2015> And why such an old version?
[08:08] <Guest78836> Thorax2015, i did but technically i couldnt understand
[08:08] <EriC^^> Guest78836: normal boot uses the mbr for the bootloader, efi uses a efi partition, so you can have multiple bootloaders at the same time + it's a little quicker
[08:09] <Thorax2015> Any ideas EriC^^ ?
[08:10] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: do you have internet access on it?
[08:10] <EriC^^> try ping google.com
[08:10] <Thorax2015> I do yeah
[08:10] <Guest78836> EriC^^, thanks
[08:10] <Guest78836> when ubuntu 16.04 release?
[08:10] <Guest78836> is it systemed?
[08:10] <Guest78836> do i wait for ubuntu 16.04 or install ubuntu 14.04
[08:11] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: ok, type sudo parted -l | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[08:11] <Thorax2015> Guest78836, install 15.04...
[08:11] <EriC^^> *15.10
[08:11] <Thorax2015> even better yeah haha
[08:11] <EriC^^> Guest78836: 16.04 is next month
[08:12] <EriC^^> Guest78836: since 15.04+ it's been systemd
[08:12] <drink1n_> Guest78836: fcuk systemd
[08:12] <jushur> !language | drink1n_
[08:13] <drink1n_> okay ;) sorry
[08:13] <Thorax2015> EriC^^:  It says curl isnt installed. What are you hoping to do?
[08:13] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: see the partition table
[08:13] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install curl
[08:14] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: or just paste it in a pastebin ( sudo parted -l )
[08:14] <EriC^^> (!)
[08:14] <Thorax2015> Would it just be easier to just reinstall from the minimal iso?
[08:14] <Guest78836> drink1n_, agree with you
[08:15] <Thorax2015> EriC^^:  Can i not just check gparted?
[08:15] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: ok, type sudo parted -l
[08:15] <EriC^^> and just say what the partition type is
[08:16] <EriC^^> it's very easy just select them, and go to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:16] <Thorax2015> gpt?
[08:16] <EriC^^> and press the middle mouse button to paste
[08:16] <EriC^^> ok
[08:16] <EriC^^> do you see any bios_boot partitions?
[08:16] <Guest78836> i run tor-browser.sh in terminal how can i find directory of this script
[08:16] <Guest78836> ?
[08:16] <EriC^^> Guest78836: which tor-browser.sh
[08:17] <EriC^^> ( that's a command )
[08:17] <Guest78836> EriC^^, i run it in terminal and the program show up
[08:18] <Guest78836> i need to find directory that tor has installed
[08:18] <EriC^^> Guest78836: no i mean type "which tor-browser.sh"
[08:18] <EriC^^> it'll say where the first place it finds it in
[08:19] <Guest78836> EriC^^, i found it
[08:20] <Guest78836> EriC^^, if i run this script on the other system program can execute?
[08:20] <EriC^^> Guest78836: what?
[08:21] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15289984/
[08:21] <Guest78836> EriC^^, i need to back up from my tor
[08:21] <EriC^^> Thorax2MILLIONSJ: that wasn't too hard now was it? :D
[08:21] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> hahaha
[08:21] <Guest78836> because i am migrating to ubuntu 14.04
[08:22] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> Had to install an irc client on here but whatever haha
[08:22] <EriC^^> Thorax2MILLIONSJ: ok, so you're using gpt, and a bios_boot, so you're using legacy on the install
[08:22] <Thorax2015> Guest78836. UBUNTU 15.10!!!!
[08:22] <Thorax2015> EriC^^:  ahh
[08:22] <Guest78836> Thorax2015, i am on 15.10 now
[08:23] <Guest78836> Thorax2015, i am hated from systemd
[08:23] <Thorax2015> So how the hell is installing 14.04 a good choice?
[08:23] <Guest78836> Thorax2015, because i am hated systemed
[08:23] <Thorax2015> fool...
[08:24] <Thorax2015> So EriC^^, the partition setup looks fine, but I need to fix the boot partition?
[08:24] <EriC^^> Guest78836: 16.04 will be systemd too
[08:24] <EriC^^> Guest78836: why don't you like it?
[08:25] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: well are you going to use win10 at all on the laptop?
[08:25] <Guest78836> EriC^^, because i cant manage services there
[08:25] <Thorax2015> No
[08:25] <EriC^^> if not just reinstall grub and call it a day
[08:25] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: ok, then chroot and reinstall grub
[08:25] <EriC^^> type sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[08:26] <Thorax2015> I swear I had UEFI enabled when i installed from the mini iso
[08:26] <Guest78836> many commands are differences in systemed
[08:26] <Thorax2015> Guest7886. so you just fear change?
[08:26] <EriC^^> Guest78836: learn them
[08:26] <EriC^^> !systemd | Guest78836
[08:26] <Thorax2015> https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/rKdQD2JHty5N34wb2b5vtj3z11w=/0x64:258x236/1310x873/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/21165371/garth-fear-change-258x300.0.jpg
[08:27] <Guest78836> i was going to enable a script at boot time i couldnt
[08:27] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> Done that EriC^^
[08:27] <Guest78836> if i wan to learn systemed i migrate to fedora instead of ubuntu
[08:27] <EriC^^> Guest78836: there are guides for it in that site i think, did you type systemctl enable <service> after you made the file?
[08:28] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> Well, I entered the sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt command
[08:28] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> Good look with fedora... their package manager is awful
[08:28] <EriC^^> Thorax2MILLIONSJ: ok, type " for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done "
[08:28] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> At first I liked fedora, until I tried to actually modify anything
[08:28] <EriC^^> i know, it's a long sucker
[08:28] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> Everything between the quotes EriC^^ ?
[08:29] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:29] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> done
[08:29] <Guest78836> EriC^^, which do you prefer?
[08:29] <EriC^^> i'm using 14.04 right now, i'll clean install 16.04 when it comes out
[08:29] <EriC^^> systemd isn't that bad
[08:30] <Guest78836> why didnt you install 15.10?
[08:30] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> EriC^^, howcome youre using 14.04?
[08:30] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> haha
[08:30] <Mikelevel> sudo service XXXXX start/stop/restart/status   <--- all you need to learn about systemd?
[08:30] <EriC^^> cause it's lts
[08:30] <EriC^^> not going to upgrade every 6months or so, plus the in between releases seem to suck a lot
[08:31] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> So what now EriC^^ ?
[08:31] <Guest78836> Mikelevel, it is not whole
[08:32] <EriC^^> Thorax2MILLIONSJ: sudo chroot /mnt
[08:32] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> EriC^^, ok done
[08:32] <EriC^^> Thorax2MILLIONSJ: mount -a
[08:32] <Guest78836> 14.04 is supprted for 3 years?
[08:32] <EriC^^> 5 years
[08:32] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> EriC^^, ok done
[08:32] <Guest78836> i prefer it
[08:33] <EriC^^> Thorax2MILLIONSJ: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[08:33] <EriC^^> Thorax2MILLIONSJ: in the bios, you have to set the 500gb to be first in the boot order
[08:33] <Guest78836> EriC^^, why ubuntu dont install java as default?
[08:33] <EriC^^> Thorax2MILLIONSJ: that's probably what's wrong right now
[08:34] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> EriC^^, Yeah it is
[08:34] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> Guest78836, a lot of these questions would be better aimed at google...
[08:34] <EriC^^> Guest78836: you ask many questions, and i have little answers :D
[08:34] <Guest78836> i live at iran and oracle has been blocked us
[08:35] <Guest78836> idk how can i install that
[08:35] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> Guest78836, google
[08:35] <EriC^^> Guest78836: install it from the repositories
[08:35] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> EriC^^, Installing for i386-pc platform.
[08:35] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> Installation finished. No error reported.
[08:35] <EriC^^> Thorax2MILLIONSJ: update-grub
[08:35] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> EriC^^, Generating grub configuration file ...
[08:36] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
[08:36] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-30-generic
[08:36] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-30-generic
[08:36] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> done
[08:36] <EriC^^> Thorax2MILLIONSJ: ok, exit then reboot
[08:36] <Thorax2MILLIONSJ> k
[08:36] <Guest78836> EriC^^,when i install java 8 i get error
[08:37] <EriC^^> what error?
[08:37] <Thorax2015> It doesnt boot EriC^^
[08:37] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: is csm legacy enabled? the 500gb first in boot order?
[08:38] <Thorax2015> EriC^^:  No to CSM, and yeah the 500GB is first
[08:38] <Guest78836>  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[08:38] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: try enabling csm
[08:39] <EriC^^> Guest78836: ok what error do you get?
[08:39] <Thorax2015> EriC^^:  Im afraid there is no option for it in my bios
[08:39] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: ok, try enabling uefi
[08:39] <EriC^^> again
[08:39] <EriC^^> and see if you can get the installer to boot in uefi mode
[08:40] <Guest78836> E: Unable to locate package oracle-java8-installer
[08:40] <EriC^^> Guest78836: did you run sudo apt-get update
[08:40] <EriC^^> ?
[08:40] <Guest78836> no
[08:40] <EriC^^> run it
[08:41] <Thorax2015> EriC^^:  ok its booting from the usb
[08:41] <EriC^^> cool
[08:41] <Guest78836> okay
[08:41] <Thorax2015> EriC^^:  Not the setup though....
[08:41] <EriC^^> ?
[08:41] <Thorax2015> Its given me the computer name and asked for a login.
[08:41] <EriC^^> oddest thing ever
[08:41] <Guest78836> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[08:42] <EriC^^> Guest78836: you ran apt-get update then tried installing?
[08:42] <EriC^^> and it said that?
[08:42] <Guest78836> Note: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin
[08:42] <Guest78836> EriC^^, yes
[08:42] <EriC^^> ok, type echo $PATH
[08:42] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: so weird
[08:43] <Guest78836> bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games: No such file or directory
[08:43] <EriC^^> login
[08:43] <EriC^^> and type df -h
[08:43] <Thorax2015> Yeah, i swear its installed something onto the USB
[08:43] <Thorax2015> Similar thing happened when installing windows 10 from a usb, it installs the loader onto the usb
[08:44] <Guest78836> EriC^^, no matter
[08:44] <Guest78836> EriC^^, i am going to install 14.04 i will try there
[08:44] <EriC^^> Guest78836: ok
[08:45] <Guest78836> i have downloaded a iso file it is 1GB how can i create my usb flash bootable
[08:45] <Thorax2015> Gonna put the minimal iso onto CD and try again
[08:45] <Thorax2015> Guest78836, how can you complain so much about sytemd when you cant even figure out basic stuff like that
[08:46] <Thorax2015> Google it for the love of god. Its on the ubuntu website
[08:46] <EriC^^> Guest78836: type sudo parted -l to get the usb's name, then type sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[08:46] <Guest78836> Thorax2015 many people dont like systemed
[08:47] <EriC^^> Guest78836: don't use /dev/sdxY , only /dev/sdX of the usb
[08:47] <Guest78836> Thorax2015, you should be polite
[08:47] <Thorax2015> Guest78836: I'm trying to help. Google has the answer to your very simple problem
[08:48] <Guest78836> Thorax2015, you should google your questions also dont come here
[08:48] <Thorax2015> haha, youre kidding right? What im asking is a bit more specific than what you are after
[08:49] <Guest78836> Thorax2015, google has answer for your question i detail
[08:49] <Thorax2015> Guest78836: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows   <--- here is the answer to your question, first result on google
[08:50] <JamesT> Hi, is there anyone who could help me obtain the official Ubuntu CDs (including old releases)?
[08:51] <JamesT> I used to have a couple of them, but lost them while moving...
[08:51] <Thorax2015> JamesT:  http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[08:51] <EriC^^> Guest78836: Thorax2015 it's perfectly fine to ask anything here as long as it's ubuntu related
[08:52] <JamesT> @Thorax2015 I mean the ones that were shipped by ShipIt...
[08:54] <Guest78836> EriC^^, i see this Model: UFD 2.0 Silicon-Power8G (scsi)
[08:54] <Guest78836> Disk /dev/sdb: 8054MB
[08:54] <EriC^^> Guest78836: is that the usb you want to write to for sure?
[08:55] <Guest78836> EriC^^, it is my usb
[08:55] <EriC^^> ok, where's the iso located?
[08:56] <Guest78836>  1      28.7kB  8054MB  8054MB  primary  fat32        boot, lba
[08:56] <Guest78836> it is in my download directory
[08:58] <Guest78836> ~/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso
[08:58] <EriC^^> Guest78836: ok, type sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu-something...iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M && sync
[09:00] <Guest78836> it is in process
[09:03] <Guest78836> EriC^^, is it faster than dvd boot?
[09:05] <EriC^^> Guest78836: i think so, yeah
[09:05] <Guest78836> EriC^^, i just ran sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
[09:05] <EriC^^> Guest78836: ok type sync
[09:05] <Guest78836> sync hasnt any output
[09:05] <EriC^^> ok
[09:06] <EriC^^> it's done
[09:06] <yorick__> hey. I want to run the 'virsh -c qemu:///system list' command as my own user, but it seems that I always have to login on the 'libvirtd' group, by typing 'newgrp libvirtd'. Is there a way to stay logged in in multiple groups?
[09:06] <Guest78836> EriC^^, thanks
[09:06] <Guest78836> i just choose my usb in boot time?
[09:07] <EriC^^> Guest78836: no problem, yeah
[09:08] <Guest78836> EriC^^, you are difference from some guys here you like to help
[09:08] <Guest78836> EriC^^, thanks bbye
[09:08] <hilx> yorick__, try adding yourself to that group
[09:08] <EriC^^> bye
[09:09] <hilx> yorick__, like.. sudo usermod -a -G [group-name] [user-name]
[09:09] <yorick__> ive done that
[09:10] <yorick__> but it seems that I do need the 'libvirtd' group as primary group
[09:10] <yorick__> pretty strange. I'd have the same issue with docker
[09:11] <hilx> did you relogin after adding yourself?
[09:13] <yorick__> i opened a new bash session
[09:13] <yorick__> isnt that enough?
[09:13] <hilx> that sh'd do it. strange
[09:13] <alkisg> No, just running bash doesn't do it
[09:13] <yorick__> hmm
[09:13] <yorick__> should that really be the trick
[09:14] <jushur> only if its set as a login shell
[09:14] <yorick__> moment, i will restart my pc and let you know=)
[09:14] <alkisg> Logout in the dm should be enough
[09:15] <hilx> i learned something! o/ :)
[09:16] <yorick__> sorry, what do you mean with dm?
[09:16] <JamesT1995> dm=display manager (login screen)
[09:16] <alkisg> display manager, lightdm
[09:16] <yorick__> ahh
[09:16] <yorick__> ok
[09:16] <yorick__> brb
[09:17] <yorick__> ty for mow
[09:17] <hilx> i like mow
[09:22] <JamesT1995> Hey guys, I need help. I used to own a couple of the original Ubuntu CDs that used to be shipped by ShipIt, but unfortunately I lost them while moving. Is there any chance to obtain them again (including old releases)? I know that ShipIt has been canceled :-(
[09:23] <alkisg> JamesT1995: how, for someone here that has them to ship them to you?
[09:24] <JamesT1995> alkisg I would be very grateful, I am even willing to buy them.
[09:24] <Thorax2015> So, am i being stupid or what. Ive booted into Ubuntu live from USB, ive inserted a blank cd and downloaded ubuntu mini iso. And I right click on the iso and choose Open With >> Disk Image Writer. But the CD drive is greyed out
[09:25] <Thorax2015> Its says its already mounted
[09:26] <alkisg> JamesT1995: I think I have 4-5 different original CDs, somewhere from 5.04 to 12.04... mail me at alkisg at gmail dot com if you want them
[09:27] <JamesT1995> alkisg: I will, thank you!
[09:27] <EriC^^> Thorax2015: try lsblk
[09:28] <Thorax2015> Yep, I was being slow. Ignore me.
[09:28] <yorick__> thanks, the login woked =)
[09:28] <yorick__> worked
[09:34] <Skyrider> Greetings all
[09:36] <Skyrider> Was wondering if someone could help me with rsyslog "invoke-rc.d: initscript rsyslog, action "start" failed.
[09:36] <Skyrider> " -> Errors were encountered while processing: rsyslog / E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:53] <irc-ape> burn all jews in oven
[09:53] <irc-ape> allahu akhbar
[09:53] <irc-ape> death to infidels
[09:53] <irc-ape> burn all jews in GAS oven
[09:54] <JamesT1995> irc-ape: oh...youre about to be baned
[09:54] <irc-ape> sieg heil
[09:54] <irc-ape> death to infidels!!!!!!!
[09:54] <Skyrider> Indeed, if any admin is available.. Please ban
[09:54] <Skyrider> ** Operators
[09:55] <Skyrider> Ty
[09:55] <JamesT1995> where do these people come from?!
[09:55] <mattkim> :)
[09:56] <CookieM> russia?
[09:56] <fauen> haha
[09:56] <JamesT1995> Btw...I was looking for original CDs...
[10:04] <Skyrider> Still need help with rsyslog :)
[10:13] <JamesT1995> Hey guys...how can I get the latest version of GParted on Ubuntu? The version 0.19 is kind of outdated...0.25 is current
[10:13] <alkisg> JamesT1995:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gparted
[10:13] <alkisg> 0.25 is in 16.04
[10:14] <alkisg> Newer package versions are not usually backported to previous ubuntu versions
[10:14] <k1l_> JamesT1995: what do you need that version for? is the one ubuntu ships not working?
[10:15] <JamesT1995> k1l_: no, its not...HFSplus has been fixed and I need it to work with my OS X Extended partition...
[10:15] <alkisg> Try with the 16.04 daily build iso
[10:16] <k1l_> JamesT1995: well, 0.25 was released 43 days ago.
[10:16] <Skyrider> Does anyone happen to know a good way to restart a specific nginx sock when its down? (automated)
[10:17] <JamesT1995> k1l_: alkisg: honestly, sometimes it drive me crazy that Ubuntu isnt a cutting edge distro
[10:17] <alkisg> Regressions happen, not all people want the newest releases
[10:17] <k1l_> JamesT1995: ubuntu is a stable release distro. that is no secret.
[10:18] <alkisg> You can just install a specific .deb if you really want it
[10:18] <k1l_> if you want a bleeding edge use the development channel. or use a rolling release distro in first place with all its downsides
[10:18] <JamesT1995> k1l_: alkisg: i know that, but I prefer using a repo...its easier to maintain, but cant find any
[10:18] <alkisg> Debian testing? :)
[10:18] <alkisg> Good luck keeping a stable system with that though
[10:19] <Thorax2015> Im installling the minimal ubuntu again, and its asking what kernel to install. Am i safe to just pick "linux-generic"?
[10:19] <k1l_> Thorax2015: yes. that is the standard kernel
[10:19] <JamesT1995> k1l_: downsides? the only cutting edge distro ive tried out was Arch Linux and didnt find any problem there...but Ubuntu is supported by many more companies...so I use it.
[10:22] <m0dd3r> hi
[10:22] <m0dd3r> how can i setup wifi hotspot on ubuntu 15.10
[10:23] <k1l_> m0dd3r: the networkmanager can do that if you have internet on ethernet cable
[10:24] <m0dd3r> yea...but i want wifi ap which the network manager doesn't
[10:24] <JamesT1995> m0dd3r: "Create New WiFi Netowork"
[10:24] <m0dd3r> there are only infrastructure and ad-hoc
[10:24] <EriC^^> m0dd3r: create a network then modify the config
[10:25] <m0dd3r> did mode=ap
[10:25] <m0dd3r> in the config
[10:25] <m0dd3r> but still wifi ap not turning on
[10:27] <EriC^^> m0dd3r: go to create wifi network and choose it from the list
[10:28] <m0dd3r> yes did that too but ap not turning on what to do ?
[10:29] <m0dd3r> is there a bug in ubuntu 15.10
[10:29] <k1l_> are you using the wifi?
[10:29] <Bayangan> is your wifi card support ap mode?
[10:29] <m0dd3r> nope...i have disabled it
[10:29] <k1l_> m0dd3r: is there any error in dmesg?
[10:29] <m0dd3r> internet connection is from ethernet
[10:29] <m0dd3r> nope no error is shown
[10:30] <k1l_> is it disabled? or just not connected to another wifi?
[10:30] <m0dd3r> disabled
[10:30] <k1l_> then make it enabled but not connected
[10:30] <m0dd3r> ok did.. now ?
[10:31] <k1l_> does it work now?
[10:32] <m0dd3r> nope still doesn't
[10:32] <arrow> hello
[10:32] <m0dd3r> k1l_: still doesn't
[10:33] <k1l_> m0dd3r: please show a "iw list" in a pastebin
[10:35] <Guest1641> hek
[10:35] <m0dd3r> k1l_: [connection]
[10:35] <m0dd3r> id=rocker
[10:35] <m0dd3r> uuid=3b12033d-d914-4dee-a2f9-462b3c6efbe1
[10:35] <m0dd3r> type=wifi
[10:35] <m0dd3r> permissions=
[10:35] <m0dd3r> secondaries=
[10:35] <k1l_> !paste | m0dd3r
[10:38] <m0dd3r> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15290657/
[10:38] <k1l_> m0dd3r: is this "iw list"?
[10:39] <m0dd3r> sorry ? what is iw list ?
[10:39] <m0dd3r> i thought it was the config
[10:40] <k1l_> put "iw list" as command in the terminal
[10:40] <serses> why wireless doesn't work on Acer laptopts?
[10:41] <k1l_> serses: that depends on the exact chips used. but i guess they use the cheapest chips
[10:41] <m0dd3r> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15290686/
[10:42] <k1l_> m0dd3r: ok, the card supports AP mode
[10:42] <m0dd3r> yup
[10:42] <k1l_> m0dd3r: see this http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/09/3-ways-create-wifi-hotspot-ubuntu/
[10:43] <akik> serses: it's not about the manufacturer per se but which chip they are using and whether that chip is supported in linux
[10:43] <akik> serses: yes, i've been there with acer laptops
[10:43] <m0dd3r> yes... already that change in config file and followed the procedure ... not working in ubuntu 15.10
[10:44] <m0dd3r> k1l_: it worked in previous ubuntu 15.04
[10:44] <serses> so is there anyway to fix it?
[10:44] <k1l_> m0dd3r: it cant be disabled. you need to choose that new created wifi
[10:45] <k1l_> serses: that depends on the chips it uses. there are hundreds of different wifi chips. so we cant say yes or no without knowing what chip it is
[10:45] <serses> Qualcom Atheros
[10:45] <m0dd3r> k1l_: it does'nt connect to the wifi
[10:46] <k1l_> m0dd3r: then file a bug and see what the maintainer says about it
[10:46] <k1l_> !bug | m0dd3r
[10:46] <k1l_> m0dd3r: since you said there is no error in the logfiles
[10:46] <serses> it is Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 Wireless Network Adapter
[10:47] <k1l_> serses: can you show a "rfkill list" on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here?
[10:47] <serses> i'm on windows right now , but i will try
[10:57] <VarunAgw> Does anyone here solution to this -> https://askubuntu.com/q/742079/405926 (Access framebuffer /dev/fb0 in AWS EC2 (Ubuntu Server))
[10:58] <Thorax2015> So, finished the mini iso install. Still doesnt boot into Ubuntu
[10:59] <Thorax2015> I think its time I installed an OS that just works
[10:59] <serses> ok i run rfkill on ubuntu : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15290781/
[11:01] <alkisg> Thorax2015: what's the problem, you install ubuntu under uefi and then grub doesn't show up?
[11:02] <Thorax2015> yeah
[11:02] <Thorax2015> It just goes round in circles
[11:03] <alkisg> Thorax2015: what circles? what happens after installation?
[11:03] <Thorax2015> After install. I eject the CD, and it shows the mobo boot, then goes black, restarts
[11:03] <Thorax2015> Over and over
[11:03] <alkisg> Do you also have another OS installed, like e.g. windows?
[11:04] <Thorax2015> No
[11:04] <alkisg> Did you manage to boot with a live cd or stick?
[11:04] <alkisg> not mini.iso, something live
[11:04] <alkisg> Where you can run commands and examine things
[11:04] <Thorax2015> Yeah i did
[11:05] <alkisg> Can you boot with that, so that we see if your uefi environment is sane? partitions, boot files etc?
[11:05] <Thorax2015> But after all the commands eric gave me, it didnt work
[11:05] <Thorax2015> So i reinstalled, this time using a cd
[11:06] <Thorax2015> I just wanted a minimal install with Cinnamon
[11:07] <alkisg> Do you still have the live usb stick? I think we'll get better information if you actually have a running system where you can give feedback.
[11:08] <Thorax2015> Yeah im running it now
[11:08] <alkisg> Thorax2015: what's the output of `sudo parted -l`?
[11:09] <alkisg> And, what's the output of this command?             [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[11:09] <Thorax2015> One minute, just gonna grab hexchat on the live usb
[11:09] <alkisg> There's also webchat.freenode.net if you prefer (browser-based)
[11:10] <Thorax2015> ahh yeah thats a good idea
[11:10] <Thorax2015> why didnt i think of that
[11:10] <k1l_> serses: see if that helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2281584&page=2&p=13414356&viewfull=1#post13414356
[11:12] <serses> ok I will try that
[11:12] <JamesT1995> Does anyone here use Xfce?
[11:13] <ThoraxTired> So k1l_ , what did you want to see?
[11:13] <alkisg> ThoraxTired: maybe you meant me?
[11:13] <alkisg> sudo parted -l;        [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[11:13] <ThoraxTired> Ahh sorry... Tired
[11:14] <humbot> yes JamesT1995, some people do ;)
[11:14] <JamesT1995> humbot: what icon theme do you use?...i cant find any that is xfce-compatible...
[11:15] <ThoraxTired> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15290906/ alkisg
[11:15] <humbot> i don't even know :P
[11:15] <ThoraxTired> I've used xfce quite a bit. I find Cinnamon and MATE a lot faster
[11:15] <alkisg> ThoraxTired: you don't have an uefi partition, you have a bios_grub partition
[11:16] <alkisg> That's not suitable for uefi installation under gpt
[11:16] <alkisg> That's why your system can't boot
[11:16] <humbot> i totally disagree ThoraxTired
[11:16] <ThoraxTired> alkisg: I let Ubuntu do the partitions this time
[11:16] <alkisg> ThoraxTired: then when you installed ubuntu, it had not booted with uefi
[11:16] <MonkeyDust>   JamesT1995 http://xfce-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=430
[11:17] <ThoraxTired> Ha, I can assure you it had
[11:17] <ThoraxTired> Its been enabled all day
[11:17] <alkisg> Well, bios_grub is "bios"
[11:17] <alkisg> It's not "uefi"
[11:17] <ThoraxTired> I know
[11:17] <alkisg> So it's wrong now
[11:17] <humbot> i use xfce-dusk style and tango icons JamesT1995
[11:17] <ThoraxTired> But uefi is enabled now, and it hasnt been changed all day
[11:17] <alkisg> If mini.iso has no support for uefi, your motherboard might boot it under csm
[11:18] <humbot> yup xfce-look.org is good and the xfce4-goodies package is good too
[11:18] <alkisg> You don't have to enter setup to disable uefi to boot under legacy, some motherboards just do that depending on the medium
[11:18] <wizard_A> i am getting a failed packer build when i try building a virtual box iso using ubuntu 14.04 server-amd64.. it always stops at the select and install software part... which line of code in preseed file do i need to tweek in order to solve this??
[11:18] <alkisg> ThoraxTired: so now you either need to reinstall with proper partitioning, or fix grub-efi
[11:18] <alkisg> Manually fixing it might take a while though
[11:19] <ThoraxTired> Installing it is taking a while. Been at it for nearly 5 hours.....
[11:21] <ThoraxTired> hmm
[11:21] <ThoraxTired> alkisg: You think if i disable uefi it will boot?
[11:22] <JamesT1995> alkisg: btw...thank you for offering me the CDs, but I think itll be cheaper if I find someone in the US :-)
[11:22] <alkisg> JamesT1995: haha, true
[11:22] <alkisg> ThoraxTired: you can test it with kvm
[11:23] <ThoraxTired> whats kvm?
[11:23] <alkisg> ThoraxTired: something like virtualbox
[11:23] <ThoraxTired> ah
[11:23] <alkisg> enable universe; apt-get install kvm; sudo kvm -m 512 /dev/sda
[11:23] <ThoraxTired> tbh, I think i may just install windows
[11:24] <alkisg> Windows will make an uefi partition for you
[11:24] <alkisg> The live stick you now have will also make an uefi partition for you
[11:24] <ThoraxTired> how?
[11:24] <alkisg> In any case, your current partitions are wrong
[11:24] <ThoraxTired> They were the auto setup ones
[11:24] <alkisg> Go to gparted, create a new GPT disklabel destroying all data, and then use setup
[11:25] <alkisg> Not under uefi, they weren't
[11:25] <ThoraxTired> But i dont want to install the full Ubuntu
[11:25] <alkisg> I don't think ubuntu is so buggy that it creates bios_grub under uefi
[11:25] <ThoraxTired> I want Ubuntu, minus all the crap
[11:25] <alkisg> Install the full ubuntu first, then when you have a working setup you can do whatever else you like
[11:25] <donguston> Is there any reason why i couldnt install a desktop onto a vps? im using the chapest OVH vps and want to run firefox in it? Its running ubuntu server edition and ive just done apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:25] <ThoraxTired> What do you mean?
[11:25] <alkisg> E.g. remove ubuntu-desktop or do another installation
[11:26] <alkisg> It's just packages, easy to add or remove them
[11:26] <alkisg> You can e.g. get a list of your current packages in your non-bootable hard disk, and keep only those
[11:27] <ThoraxTired> If i run the installer from the live cd, use that to create the partitions, then run the mini iso, and keep those partitions, will that work?
[11:28] <bikalpa> anyone available??
[11:35] <pi> hello
[11:36] <JamesT1995> pi: hello
[11:36] <obrientimothya> hey pi
[11:36] <Thorax> Ok, i double checked it was still in UEFI, and it was. Im not running the install from the live usb
[11:36] <Thorax> With this installer, I dont need to create boot partitions do I?
[11:38] <BikerMike> I'm curious as to why there exists ubuntuforums and askubuntu? thanks
[11:38] <R13ose> I am stick in grub and unsure how to boot from there.  When I run the command boot, I get the error: "error: no loaded kernel" How do I fix this?
[11:39] <R13ose> BikerMike: http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1351/what-is-the-difference-between-ubuntuforums-and-askubuntu
[11:40] <BikerMike> tyvm r13ose
[11:40] <enrique> fxs
[11:45] <Bender___> hi
[11:46] <Bender___> is there anyone
[11:46] <Bender___> ?
[11:46] <R13ose> yes
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> Bender___  if you're sweet
[11:47] <linux> hi
[11:47] <Bender___> I see...
[11:47] <R13ose> any thoughts on my question?
[11:48] <linux> im from russia
[11:48] <Bender___> Is russia really cold?
[11:48] <linux> есть кто руские?
[11:49] <linux> no
[11:49] <linux> -40 in winter
[11:49] <Bender___> Cool
[11:49] <Bender___> wow
[11:49] <linux> where you from?
[11:49] <Thorax> Sounds like fun in a bun
[11:49] <Bender___> here is 15 in winter and I almost died
[11:50] <Bender___> Brazil
[11:50] <linux> wow
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> Bender___  great, but tell it in #ubuntu-offtopic... this is the support channel
[11:51] <Bender___> ok
[11:51] <linux> linux usd?
[11:52] <linux> a
[11:55] <linux> есть тут РУСКИЕ????
[11:55] <kira_senpai> hello
[11:55] <k1l_> !ru | linux
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[11:55] <drink1n_> !ru
[11:55] <drink1n_> !ru | hello
[11:55] <linux> hi
[11:56] <drink1n_> !zh | 你好
[11:56] <linux> hi all
[11:56] <k1l_> drink1n_: please use the pm for testing the bot.
[11:56] <linux> hellou all
[11:56] <drink1n_> okay
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> linux  we see you, it works, ask your ubuntu question
[11:57] <linux> kira_senpai:
[11:57] <nicholas_> hae
[11:57] <linux> kira you girl?
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> linux  stop
[11:58] <drink1n_> what?
[11:58] <linux> whot?
[11:58] <k1l_> linux: use ##chat channel for chatting. this is only technical support
[11:59] <linux> flud non?
[11:59] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:00] <linux> hi
[12:03] <Bernzel> I need some help with Intellij on my Ubuntu system. I had a previous version installed in my Home dir. Now I downloaded the latest version, unpacked it to my Home dir and ran idea.sh in the bin dir of the new version directory. But do I still need to remove the old folder?
[12:03] <Bernzel> I thought the old version was to be simply upgraded when doing this
[12:04] <cfhowlett> Bernzel, you installed from outside the repo. that is NOT an upgrade
[12:05] <Bernzel> cfhowlett, Ok. So now what? Do I remove the old folder?
[12:05] <cfhowlett> at this point, you likely have 2 versions installed, Bernzel
[12:05] <cfhowlett> I'd say yes
[12:06] <Bernzel> cfhowlett, and how can I make an starting icon from the new version?
[12:06] <cfhowlett> Bernzel, eh, why not just edit the properties of the existing icon to point to your new version??
[12:07] <Bernzel> how?
[12:07] <Komzpa> hey! who shall I ping to make sure qgis 2.14 LTS gets into ubuntu xenial?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> I don't use unity so I'm guessing right click on icon, go to properties and edit
[12:08] <cfhowlett> Komzpa, feature freeze has already passed
[12:08] <cfhowlett> no new features to be added
[12:08] <Bernzel> cfhowlett, that's not working. It's not clickable even.
[12:09] <Komzpa> cfhowlett: so no way?
[12:09] <cfhowlett> Bernzel, I did admit that I don't use unity :)
[12:09] <k1l_> Komzpa: no. you can make a PPA.
[12:09] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[12:09] <cfhowlett> Bernzel, someone other than me will know.  ask the channel
[12:09] <k1l_> Komzpa: but it looks like its only synced from debian into ubuntu. so you should be pushing new versions to debian
[12:10] <Komzpa> k1l_: so if there's new version in debian it can get into xenial?
[12:10] <Bernzel> Channel! Anyone knows how I can either point an existing icon to my new working directory of Intellij or create a new one?
[12:11] <EriC^^> Bernzel: .desktop files
[12:11] <k1l_> Komzpa: no. look at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> Bernzel  /usr/share/applications/ ... edit the icon you need
[12:11] <k1l_> Komzpa: but for packages like this who dont have a own maintainer on ubuntu they get only pulled from debian.
[12:12] <Komzpa> >> After this date, packages will only be imported from Debian in this way by explicit request from a developer.
[12:12] <Bernzel> MonkeyDust, and if the icon isn't there anymore? (dunno what happened)
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> !find intellij
[12:15] <Bernzel> MonkeyDust, it's not there.
[12:15] <math171> hello
[12:16] <math171> my ubuntu mate (init version 14.04) doesn't boot after upgrade what might be causes?
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> Bernzel  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[12:19] <mintux> is there any way to make snapshot or backup from server and install or upgrade it that i can restore it? ubuntu server
[12:20] <Bernzel> Yes thank you Monek
[12:20] <Bernzel> MonkeyDust,
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> !backup | mintux
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> Bernzel  glad i could help
[12:22] <Bernzel> MonkeyDust, Just one thing. Do I save that text document to the "applications" directory?
[12:22] <Guest1641> hello
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> Bernzel  not sure
[12:23] <Guest1641> where can i see my packages list?
[12:23] <Bernzel> they don't seem to cover that part in the article
[12:23] <cfhowlett> Guest1641, dpkg -l          in a terminal
[12:23] <Guest1641> cfhowlett, how can find a name in this list ?
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> Guest1641  use grep
[12:24] <cfhowlett> Guest1641, dpkg -l | grep packagename
[12:24] <EriC^^> Bernzel: yeah save it in applications
[12:24] <Guest1641> MonkeyDust, idk whole name of package
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> Guest1641  then use a part of it
[12:24] <EriC^^> or use apropos
[12:25] <EriC^^> apropos <something relevant>
[12:25] <cfhowlett> or dpkg -l | grep pack*
[12:26] <Guest1641> ii  tor-browser                                   5.5-1~webupd8~0                            amd64        Tor Browser Bundle
[12:27] <Guest1641> what is 5.5-1~webupd8~0?
[12:27] <k1l_> that is the version number. its from the webupd8 PPA
[12:27] <Guest1641> which command help me to add A PPA?
[12:28] <k1l_> that is already from a PPA
[12:29] <Guest1641> I KNOW I AM GOING TO ADD IT TO MY UBUNTU ON MY PC IT IS ON MY LAPTOP NOW
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> Guest1641  caps
[12:29] <yann-kaelig> HI
[12:29] <Guest1641> MonkeyDust, excuse me
[12:29] <yann-kaelig> where are the option tho change the keyboard layout ?
[12:29] <k1l_> Guest1641: the PPA website got the instructions https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/tor-browser
[12:30] <yann-kaelig> there is nothing like that into keyboard settings
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> yann-kaelig  what's wrong with the system settings
[12:30] <wesleyotugo> Guest1641: No need to go all caps, please moderate
[12:31] <yann-kaelig> MonkeyDust: I don't know. I just want to chaneg the keyboard layout. So I can imagine it's int okeyboard settings, but its not
[12:31] <Bender_Maximo> hi
[12:32] <Bender_Maximo> Is it normal my ubuntu goes down when I use chrome?
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> yann-kaelig  what is not the keyboard settings? your country layout?
[12:32] <k1l_> Bender_Maximo: no
[12:32] <Bender_Maximo> I think I unistall ir and just use mozilla
[12:33] <k1l_> Bender_Maximo: what do you mean exactly by "going down"?
[12:33] <wesleyotugo> Bender_Maximo: No, It is not normal.
[12:34] <Bender_Maximo> the screen just turn black
[12:34] <Bender_Maximo> and ask for login
[12:35] <wesleyotugo> Bender_Maximo: Are you using 14.04 LTS
[12:37] <yann-kaelig> lol, text entry...
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> yann-kaelig  found it?
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> hi MonkeyDust
[12:37] <k1l_> Bender_Maximo: you could look into the logs in syslog or the .xsession-errors in home
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[12:38] <Bender_Maximo> yes it`s the 14.04 LTS
[12:38] <yann-kaelig> it's certainly too easy to just write keyboard layout. Sometijmes i things dev are really perturbed in her head
[12:38] <Bender_Maximo> Ok I'll try it
[12:38] <Bender_Maximo> tanks
[12:38] <Bender_Maximo> thanks
[12:39] <wesleyotugo> Bender_Maximo: Okay then, do you use any other DE like Gnome, KDE or your just using unity ?
[12:40] <yorick__> Hey, because of issues getting software working, needed for a game, I would like to install a virtual machine in KVM to run this game. Is there a good guide how to get a good working Windows VM for gaming?
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> !kvm | yorick__ start here
[12:42] <yann-kaelig> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_entry_interface
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> yorick__  there's also !wine
[12:43] <yorick__> yes but wine is bugged
[12:43] <yorick__> with the software i use
[12:43] <yorick__> i want to play cnc-online which will do sone dns changes
[12:43] <yorick__> somehow this cant be done correctly
[12:43] <yorick__> (in wine)
[12:44] <yorick__> the game itself works fine
[12:47] <mintux> MonkeyDust: no it's not thing that im looking for. i need a tools to restore my whole system. for example install a program or upgrade my os then i can role back
[12:48] <az_> i have external hdd with luks encryption and i cant have it connected to usb port because then grub don't boot (probably try boot from this usb) why?
[12:50] <Guest1641> when i run netbeans from repository i think it has not full option and when i want to run from external sources with netbeans8.sh i get java error what should i do?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> mintux  like this? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/back-in-time-a-simple-backup-tool-for-ubuntu.html
[12:52] <mintux> MonkeyDust: maybe but it need it for my server and it should not have gu
[12:52] <mintux> gui
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> mintux  there's also #ubuntu-server, maybe you find an answer there
[13:00] <Kentrel> Hey guys, I have a partition with an installation of Ubuntu that I haven't booted in 2.5 years. I'd like to start using it again. What's the best way to update this?
[13:00] <k1l_> Kentrel: are you booted into that now?
[13:01] <Kentrel> No
[13:01] <k1l_> you know what version that is?
[13:01] <Kentrel> Couldn't tell you offhand, but it was up to date 2.5 years go
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> Kentrel  what's the output of  cat /etc/issue
[13:02] <Kentrel> MonkeyDust, I have not booted into it yet
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Kentrel  we have to know *something*
[13:02] <k1l_> Kentrel: best is to boot into it and come in here
[13:02] <Kentrel> Okay, well tell me what to look for. I'll boot into it and gather some intel
[13:03] <Kentrel> k1l_, Is that safe? I mean, I'll be advertising to the channel that I have an insecure distro
[13:04] <k1l_> you can boot into it, run "lsb_release -a" and "uname -a" and show the info in a pastebin when you booted back to what you use now. if you like
[13:04] <Kentrel> ok
[13:31] <Testtube> Anyone have a good suggestion of a terminal application that will allow you to define list of servers you want to connect to?
[13:32] <jushur> Testtube: sh
[13:34] <Testtube> ...
[13:35] <yellabs> hello there
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> Testtube  you too, try #ubuntu-server
[13:35] <yellabs> is there a way to see gpu usage ( bash )
[13:36] <Testtube> Thanks MonkeyDust
[13:37] <Norbin> what gpu yellabs
[13:37] <yellabs> so on terminal , is there a way to see the useage of gpu ?
[13:37] <jushur> Testtube: im actualy quite serious, sh "bash scripts" + tmux and any cli tool combined is what you can use.
[13:37] <yellabs> gpu as in videocard memory
[13:37] <Norbin> what gpu yellabs
[13:37] <Norbin> ........
[13:38] <Norbin> nvidia? amd/ati ?
[13:38] <Norbin> there are different ways for each
[13:38] <yellabs> its a broadcom on chip device ( raspberry )
[13:39] <Testtube> Norbin, how would you do it with intel intergrated?
[13:39] <sector_0> hey guys
[13:39] <sector_0> i have a problem with my screen flickering on and off when I try to wake it from sleep
[13:40] <sector_0> nothing is shown during this time (the screen simply remains black), but the backlight flickers on and off
[13:41] <sector_0> The issue is not consistent; it happens sporadically
[13:41] <Testtube> hmm thats odd sector_0
[13:41] <sector_0> and restarting is usually the only solution....that i know of that is
[13:42] <sector_0> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS with the latest AMD drivers for my Radeon HD 7870 Pitcairn
[13:43] <Norbin> yellabs: do you have vcdbg on that device ?
[13:44] <Norbin> with some awk tweaks it can print readable numbers :~
[13:51] <Skyrider> I wonder which flavor I should get for my Ubuntu.
[13:51] <Skyrider> (desktop)
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> Skyrider  try a few a choose the one you like most, we can't decide for you
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> Skyrider  http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ#cMfLqdM
[13:54] <yellabs> thanks for the info
[13:54] <SchrodingersScat> !flavor | Skyrider the answer is always xubuntu
[13:55] <manox> hey i need help http://pasteboard.co/22vDcWrT.png why apt is downloading two packages at same time?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> manox  what do you mean?
[13:56] <Skyrider> That's now d/ling packages though..
[13:56] <Skyrider> That's reading through the source list.
[13:56] <SchrodingersScat> manox: why not?  if it can grab a large file while it also gets a few small files, seems like that would maximize efficiency.  Waste is a thief.
[13:58] <manox> MonkeyDust: if u looked a image,, shuldnot the result be downloading <package > download speed etc ??
[13:59] <SchrodingersScat> full disclosure, that site didn't load all the way for me, so I gave up.
[13:59] <Skyrider> You used apt-get update, correct? rather than apt-get install
[13:59] <ToBeFree> manox, apt downloades two packages at the same time if both come from different servers
[14:00] <Skyrider> Also, I'm aware that there's plenty of flavors to choose from
[14:00] <ToBeFree> manox: Here, Chromium is probably from a separate repository
[14:00] <Skyrider> From the images though, I prefer LXDE / KDE the most.. Seeing I'm on windows atm.
[14:00] <ToBeFree> or firefox is
[14:01] <ToBeFree> for me, Google Chrome is
[14:01] <manox> ToBeFree: O then i it does so for efficieny and there is no problem with my system
[14:01] <ToBeFree> manox, correct :)
[14:02] <ToBeFree> it could also do the same thing for packages from the same server, but I assume that the apt developers didn't want to increase the load on the repository servers
[14:02] <Skyrider> SchrodingersScat: Answer is always xubuntu?..
[14:02] <ToBeFree> Maybe it would be relatively easy to modify that behavior, that depends on the source code. Maybe there's a switch for this that is disabled by default.
[14:02] <SchrodingersScat> Skyrider: outside of hardware limitations it's purely preference, so yes.
[14:03] <Skyrider> Ah
[14:03] <manox> thanx all
[14:03] <Skyrider> I wonder what I should do with all my partitions >_>
[14:03] <ToBeFree> Skyrider: put backups on them unless you did that already ;)
[14:04] <Skyrider> Way too much backups (over 1TB) :p
[14:04] <ToBeFree> :D
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> i have a partition for my VMs
[14:04] <Skyrider> I'll go try out linux first.
[14:04] <ToBeFree> also on external drives?
[14:04] <Skyrider> Indeed.
[14:04] <ToBeFree> hmm, and you still have too much free space :D
[14:05] <ToBeFree> can't help you with that "issue", I'm afraid ;D
[14:05] <Skyrider> Not anymore ^^.. got way too much backups of backups.
[14:05] <Skyrider> Lazy to go through all them.
[14:05] <ToBeFree> ah
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> 'first world problems': what can i do with all my partitions?
[14:06] <ToBeFree> just rsync the home folder to an external drive, detach it when not used, that's all I do. Not sure if that's sufficient, but I have already successfully restored from that backup 2 times
[14:06] <Skyrider> I'm referring to my games partition.
[14:06] <Skyrider> But I need to get a ubuntu flavor first.
[14:06] <Skyrider> I hate choices.
[14:06] <ToBeFree> Skyrider, did you try Ubuntu with Enlightenment yet? :)
[14:07] <ToBeFree> [I didn't, I'm thinking of unusual ideas]
[14:07] <hrobjartur> hi
[14:07] <Romme> can anyone help me
[14:07] <Skyrider> Never heard of it.
[14:07] <Skyrider> Romme: ask away.
[14:07] <ToBeFree> Romme, not without you asking a question :)
[14:07] <Romme> dropbox on xfce doesn't work
[14:07] <Skyrider> Ouch
[14:07] <Skyrider> Why? :
[14:07] <Romme> it shows a weird icon and a blank menu
[14:08] <Skyrider> Ah, nvm.. thought it was meant as general.
[14:08] <Romme> i can't even take a screenshot when the menu is active
[14:08] <hrob> anyone know a good tool on ubuntu to monitor download traffic?
[14:08] <Romme> actually, when any kind of menu is active, xfce screenshotter doesn't work
[14:08] <Skyrider> hrob: desktop or server?
[14:09] <hrob> Skyrider, desktop,  I'm doing experiments with my browser
[14:09] <hrob> Skyrider,  want something monitoring the total traffic at the eth interface level
[14:09] <Skyrider> ntop?
[14:10] <hrob> Skyrider,  ok lets see :)
[14:10] <Romme> i'm on Xenial btw
[14:10] <Skyrider> port based though, rather than being GUI application.
[14:10] <hrob> Skyrider,   I notive many tools show network speed in mbps...  my aim is to have a cumulative indicator that starts at 0.0 and counts total MB
[14:10] <hrob> *notic
[14:10] <hrob> e
[14:11] <jushur> Romme: #ubuntu+1 for xenial questions.
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> !xenial | Romme
[14:11] <hrob> Skyrider, it might be alright if similar to htop
[14:11] <Skyrider> iftop? ^^
[14:12] <Skyrider> similar to htop.
[14:12] <Skyrider> But there are plenty of monitors around though.
[14:13] <hrob> Skyrider,  yeah so many I don't know where to start also... its not always clear to me if they show cumulative downloads... most of them are for network debugging and don't care about total download
[14:13] <hrob> Skyrider,  hell,  if there was a python module I could maybe taylor the output to my own needs
[14:18] <Skyrider> 14.01 or 15.10.. mmhh
[14:18] <k1l_> Skyrider: do you want to upgrade in 5 months?
[14:18] <Skyrider> As long its easy and not breaking stuff, I don't exactly mind :p
[14:19] <k1l_> because then 15.10 is going EndOfLife and you dont have a choice then.
[14:19] <k1l_> for 14.04 you can not upgrade for 3 more years :)
[14:19] <Skyrider> 5 months is a long way though.
[14:20] <Skyrider> Can I get "Xfce4 Panel Switch" for 14.01?
[14:20] <k1l_> Skyrider: 3 months after the release of 16.04, 15.10 will be shut down. so in that 3 months you need to upgrade.
[14:20] <k1l_> Skyrider: there is no 14.01. 14.04 or 14.10 (its year.month)
[14:20] <Skyrider> Sorry, 14.04, my bad.
[14:21] <TrumpLinux> #TrumpLinux is growing. Let's Make Linux Great Again!
[14:39] <jws> Hi, I have an older packard bell laptop easynote with ATI. It sometimes works but often hangs during boot, or recursive errors during boot. with nomodeset it always boots but graphics is extremely slow, even after disabling animations.
[14:40] <jws> All the solutions I could find are either adding or removing "nomodeset", neither solves both of my problems.
[14:41] <Hovercross> Can anyone give me a quick hand? I have a VPS running Ubuntu 15.10 that I am using as as web server. I am trying to give sites their own IPv6 addresses, which I’ve done using an up ip -6 addr add entry in /etc/network/interfaces (to give the server the additional IP addresses). The problem is, NGINX is trying to come online before the additional IPv6 address is added and therefore fails. Relevant errors and configs at
[14:41] <Hovercross> http://pastebin.com/tsrkVAQk
[14:41] <Hovercross> How can I either add the IP to the system better or delay NGINX’s start until after the additional addresses have come online?
[14:42] <jws> I'm trying to return this laptop to its (computer illiterate) owner soon. can anyone thing of another option I could try?
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> Hovercross  is that a server? if yes, try and ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:42] <Hovercross> Ok, thanks
[14:42] <Hovercross> and yes
[14:46] <pilne> are there alternate drivers availiable jws?
[14:46] <jws> Where would I look for that?
[14:47] <pilne> additional drivers
[14:47] <craptalk> do you think choosing career on linux giving a promising future?
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> craptalk  #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:48] <alkisg> jws, which ubuntu version?
[14:49] <jws> 14.04.4 (installed 12.something from CD rum then upgraded since did not boot from USB)
[14:49] <bekks> jws: Which 12.x was it?
[14:50] <alkisg> 14.04 has a number of different xorg stacks, like -vivid or -wily, you might want to try those. Although maybe 12.04.1 could be more stable for your laptop :)
[14:50] <bekks> !hwe | alkisg
[14:50] <craptalk> here is my question, i got duplicated package when i run sudo update, and i removed some similiar name on /etc/apt/sources.list.d , but now i have failed to fetch ppa.launchpad or something?
[14:50] <alkisg> bekks: you sure that was for me? :)
[14:50] <jws> bekks 12.04 32-bit
[14:50] <bekks> alkisg: Yes :) Since those differen stacks have a meaning ;)
[14:51] <bekks> jws: And then you updated to 14.04 directly?
[14:51] <alkisg> bekks: I already know how to install those; maybe jws could use that link though :)
[14:52] <jws> bekks yes. (ubuntu asked me to do that, over wired internet connection). still looking for the driver install options.
[14:52] <bekks> jws: For which driver install options?
[14:53] <pilne> it is usually just called "additional drivers" in any ubuntu i've tried
[14:53] <pilne> what DE are you currently using? unity?
[14:54] <jws> bekks it's a Dutch Ubuntu. I just found that the "non-free drivers" option is enabled in the software centre.
[14:54] <pilne> that doesn't mean they are installed though
[14:54] <bekks> jws: non.free drivers for what?
[14:54] <pilne> jws is having issues regarding an older ATI card i think
[14:55] <bekks> Thats what he said - but we dont know which drivers he is talking about.
[14:55] <jws> yes ATI. software centre reprts "no non-free drivers in use"
[14:55] <alkisg> jws, what pilne means is for you to run "software-properties-gtk" and to switch to the last tab and see if it has drivers available there
[14:56] <Bdayboy> I still cant install lubuntu alongside windows 10
[14:56] <alkisg> Why not?
[14:56] <Bdayboy> I
[14:56] <JamesT1995> Bdayboy: describe the issue a little bit more into detail thanks
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> Bdayboy  start from the beginning, what have you tried so far and what goes wrong
[14:58] <jws> alksig, that's the same tab I was looking at. there are no extra drivers available (translated from Dutch). when I don't use nomodeset, graphics is fast, but boot hangs/erros very often.
[14:58] <alkisg> jws, the ltsenablementstack page has instructions on how to install different xorg versions
[14:59] <bekks> jws: So which driver are you using currently, having which specific hardware?
[14:59] <Bdayboy> On a cold night, my laptop shows it can install lubuntu alongside windows 10 but sadly I didnt do it exactly that night
[14:59] <bekks> Bdayboy: Why not?
[14:59] <Bdayboy> I slept accidently
[14:59] <bekks> Bdayboy: State the issue, dont tell us about long cold winter nights.
[15:00] <pantato> quit
[15:00] <k1l_> Bdayboy: that has nothting to do with you falling asleep.
[15:00] <Bdayboy> The next day, I couldnt find the option to install lubuntu alongside windows 10
[15:00] <ash_> i just set up xubuntu on a vm :D i think im gona use it as my main os when i get my new pc
[15:00] <JamesT1995> ash_: great :-) I actually started out with xubuntu as well :-)
[15:01] <pilne> me as well, but i'm currently far more content with ubuntu-gnome
[15:01] <Bdayboy> I already like shut down windows 10 completely. Then tried to install lubuntu but still there is no option to install lubuntu alongside windows 10 anymore
[15:01] <ash_> JamesT1995, nice im useing xubuntu cus it looks the nicest
[15:01] <dillon_> ok guys I need some more help I googled how to format a usb drive and I followed the instructions, step by step, and it said that you'll get this message "xxxxxxxxxxxx" and I got it but under disks it still shows that debian is still on it and I need it for storage now
[15:02] <pilne> is it still labeled debian, or loaded with debian?
[15:02] <jws> bekks lspci: AMD/ATI RC410M Mobility Readon Xpress 200M
[15:02] <bekks> jws: And which driver are you using?
[15:02] <dillon_> loaded with debian because under disks you can see the partitions
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> Bdayboy  what do you see then, show us a screenshot if you can't describe it   http://imgur.com/
[15:03] <Bdayboy> how can I possibly get only option to erase disk and install lubuntu, deleting windows 10
[15:04] <Bdayboy> when I can obviously see it can be done the day before
[15:04] <k1l_> Bdayboy: turn off the fake restart of the windows disks
[15:04] <Bdayboy> k1l_: can you explain
[15:05] <jws> bekks I don't know. lshw -c video does not list "driver" after configuration.
[15:05] <ash_> bye guys ill hang ou here more when i get my new pc soon
[15:05] <bekks> jws: Look at lspci -k then.
[15:05] <ash_> out*
[15:05] <k1l_> Bdayboy: http://www.windows10update.com/2015/05/windows-10-tutorials-66-how-to-enable-or-disable-fast-startup/
[15:06] <Bdayboy> Am I paranoid or I am being spied. Good question.
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> Bdayboy  you're paranoid
[15:06] <dillon_> pilne you still see the debian partitions and this is what I put into terminal sudo mkfs.vfat -I /dev/sdc2 and then I get this message: mkfs.fat 3.0.28 (2015-05-16) am I doing something wrong? or what do I need to do to get this formated becuase I have two unusable flash drives now
[15:07] <Bdayboy> MonkeyDust: I have a feeling you have not seen the facts
[15:07] <jws> bekks lspci -k does not list a kernel driver for "vga compatible controller"
[15:07] <Bdayboy> is spying impossible? online surveillance
[15:08] <k1l_> Bdayboy: this channel is not for trolling
[15:08] <pilne> dillon, have you tried using dd to overwrite the whole disk to null first?
[15:08] <bekks> jws: Can you please put the entire output in a pastebin?
[15:09] <pilne> dillon_:: despite the strange name of the page, give this a read: http://www.noah.org/wiki/Dd_-_Destroyer_of_Disks
[15:09] <hwpplayer1> hi friends , do you use any commercial ubuntu service
[15:10] <Bdayboy> I seriously think someone is spying on ONLY my online activities.
[15:10] <bekks> hwpplayer1: Whats the actual intention of your question?
[15:10] <bekks> Bdayboy: Thats not related to Ubuntu.
[15:10] <k1l_> Bdayboy: stick to technical ubuntu support in here
[15:10] <hwpplayer1> which service should i use first , for example a virtual machine , i saw that it was cheap
[15:11] <bekks> hwpplayer1: Which services do you need?
[15:11] <Bdayboy> I know someone in here who hacks into government page. Hes an admin
[15:11] <Bdayboy> I know his nickname
[15:11] <bekks> Bdayboy: Thats not related to Ubuntu.
[15:11] <hwpplayer1> a simple virtual machine like on my computer is fine
[15:12] <bekks> hwpplayer1: I guess there are thousands of hosters out there?
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> Bdayboy  you're in the wrong channel for that sort of questions
[15:12] <hwpplayer1> i want to see how ubuntu / canonical will help me
[15:12] <bekks> hwpplayer1: Contact them, and ask them.
[15:13] <bekks> hwpplayer1: They will tell you how, when and why they will help you, and they will tell you how much they will be billing.
[15:13] <k1l_> hwpplayer1: ubuntu doesnt offer commercial support. that is done by canonical. you can ask them if you have questions about the support contracts. this in here is only volunteers support.
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> hwpplayer1  is this useful http://www.canonical.com/services
[15:14] <hwpplayer1> Thanks for all information
[15:14] <hwpplayer1> I've contacted with a canonical sales engineer , i'll talk with her in 6 months
[15:16] <sefai> hiall
[15:16] <bekks> hwpplayer1: MAybe just write a mail to canonical today.
[15:17] <sefai> pls i have problem in paltak
[15:17] <bekks> !info paltak
[15:17] <dillon_> pilne I tried that website and I couldn't get terminal to do anything basically what i need to is create a Windows Bootable usb
[15:17] <bekks> sefai: What is paltak?
[15:17] <pilne> first you said you just needed it for storage, now it has to be a bootable cd? i'm confused
[15:17] <sefai> paltalk
[15:18] <sefai> i instal him but no work
[15:18] <bekks> !info paltalk
[15:18] <dillon_> pilne if I can get back into windows then I can get them back to storage devices
[15:18] <bekks> sefai: What is paltalk?
[15:19] <sefai> paltalk massenger
[15:19] <k1l_> sefai: seems like that is closed source software. so you might need to ask the one who made that program
[15:20] <sefai> ok thx
[15:20] <sefai> :)
[15:20] <craptalk> is safari only available using such emulator in linux?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> !find safari
[15:24] <mach321> is this a freenode channel
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> mach321  yes
[15:25] <mach321> well you guys couldnt solve my problem because this is me again
[15:26] <mach321> how is Anonymous doing now
[15:27] <mach321> yes, you, you are one of the hackers
[15:29] <pi__> gaaaay
[15:29] <pi__> hallo?
[15:32] <nicomachus> hi
[15:41] <logikos> I need help with user and group permissions (i think) i have a symlink in /var/www to ~/public_html and i can execute ~/public_html/index.php  from browser just fine.  however php can not edit files in ~/public_html even though i set umask to 0002 (both in system and via php), all files and folders in ~/public_html/ have write bit for group on, and i did sudo usermod -a -G logikos www-data...
[15:41] <logikos> ...AND sudo usermod -a -G www-data logikos
[15:41] <logikos> if from php i try to do touch('test'); i get a permission error .. so www-data can not create the file....
[15:41] <logikos> i'm not sure how to troubleshoot this from here....
[15:42] <logikos> if from php i do echo exec('whoami') i get www-data
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> logikos   is that a server? if yes, try and ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:43] <mattkim> moving mouse cursor with keypad is too slow, Could you guys tell me how to fix this?
[15:45] <logikos> MonkeyDust: i just did sudo apt-get install lamp-server^  from workstation version of ubuntu .. but it would still be a server although not public, its just for local dev.
[15:45] <logikos> but ok
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> mattkim  in dconf-editor:  org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.touchpad
[15:47] <mattkim> MonkeyDust: thanks. I will give it a try
[15:51] <mattkim> MonkeyDust: Has no touchpad in dconf-editor..
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> mattkim  then look in   org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals
[15:55] <mattkim> MonkeyDust: okay hang on
[15:56] <mattkim> MonkeyDust: just has input-devices, keyboard, mouse, smartcard, touchscreen. no touchpad :)
[15:56] <mattkim> MonkeyDust: I googled about that problem, No one can solve this, thanks anyway :)
[16:02] <mattkim> MonkeyDust: I've just found "touchpad" in desktop in dconf-editor and then I adjusted speed, but it doesn't work :)
[16:04] <kill_> OOOOO
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[16:10] <Hackanatron> Bonjour à toutes et tous
[16:10] <daftykins> English only, please
[16:10] <daftykins> !fr
[16:10] <Hackanatron> so sorry, don't read that
[16:11] <Hackanatron> so sorry, i miss my channel
[16:11] <Hackanatron> have a nice day
[16:13] <ghr> I want to install Ubuntu but use i3 window manager. Am I better off installing something like Lu/Xubuntu and then i3, Ubuntu, or does it make no difference?
[16:13] <k1l_> ghr: you can even install a minimal version and then install the desktop stuff you like
[16:13] <daftykins> even better would be to install server, or from mini.iso
[16:14] <k1l_> ghr: or install a regular desktop. add the i3 after first boot. then choose the i3 on loginscreen.
[16:14] <daftykins> though that would leave a lot of unneeded cruft on the installation
[16:14] <ghr> I'm interested in Ubuntu (rather than e.g. Arch) because I want it to "Just Work" as much as possible (e.g. wifi, laptop stuff), so would using Server or the mini iso lose those benefits?
[16:15] <daftykins> using i3 would lose those benefits based on what i've seen users ask
[16:15] <ghr> hah
[16:15] <k1l_> the last solution would bring you a working desktop "with everything". but you have some space used then.
[16:15] <k1l_> but disk space is not the issue today, imho
[16:16] <fiter> Hi
[16:16] <daftykins> well another angle to think of is the increased internet connection usage to update those packages that wouldn't be used, but beyond that i agree
[16:16] <LeoDee> hey all, I am wondering if someone here knows how to prevent the wifi from shutting off after 5 mins of idling on a trusty release
[16:16] <ghr> I have an old macbook air (2gb ram, 64gb ssd), so resource is a bit limited, but I mostly care about the thing working rather than a couple of extra packages installed
[16:17] <daftykins> ah so it's a mac as well, i have to say that that to my mind pretty much means nothing Linux will 100% 'just work' for you
[16:17] <ghr> yeah, its a terrible situation :/
[16:18] <ghr> but the mba is dog slow on OS X. I've been looking at old thinkpads but tbh, I'd rather just buy a brand new one if I find I can work with linux day to day, so want to try it on hardware I already have
[16:20] <ghr> "using i3 would lose those benefits" what kind of issues come up out of interest?
[16:20] <ghr> daftykins^
[16:21] <k1l_> ghr: some macs need some special work on install. so i would look around what othery did have to do while installing.
[16:21] <daftykins> standard mobile usability, things you'd expect from a laptop
[16:21] <Delvien> use mate+i3  if you want the benefits of a DE, but the tiling and customization of i3
[16:21] <ghr> yeah I've had a read up on installing on mac; seems fine
[16:21] <daftykins> to be quite honest, i have an old model macbook here (the basic white ones) - even xubuntu doesn't have the right keyboard layout at install, only normal ubuntu with unity does
[16:21] <ghr> ugh
[16:22] <daftykins> yeah installation *most* of the time is easy, but if you don't use a modern DE, you'll have little quirks like that
[16:22] <daftykins> ghr: moreover, i would advise waiting on 16.04
[16:22] <ghr> didn't realise the DE controlled so much of that. Figured ubuntu "core" would fix that kind of stuff
[16:22] <daftykins> well you're welcome to try it out, the Mac pages desperately need more attention - i wrote a guide for the one i did
[16:22] <ghr> yeah I noticed that was out soon
[16:22] <daftykins> !mac
[16:22] <ghr> nice!
[16:23] <daftykins> i think it was the 3,1 i did, it sticks out like a sore thumb for being the only one with trusty beside it
[16:23] <ghr> yeah I have a 3,1
[16:24] <ghr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209602 seems like it covers some good stufff too
[16:24] <daftykins> you said macbook air though right?
[16:24] <ghr> yeah
[16:24] <daftykins> as mentioned the 3,1 i have is a white macbook - early intel
[16:25] <daftykins> it has a hilarious flaw where the touchpad under *buntu only works if you lay down an entire thumb segment on the touchpad - finger tips don't work
[16:25] <ghr> ah yeah; didn't realise they had the same number versions for different models
[16:25] <ghr> oh, that's rubbish
[16:26] <ghr> this is why I don't use linux day to day :/
[16:26] <daftykins> i think that's only this one though :)
[16:26] <daftykins> yep nor me - life's too short
[16:27] <jws> bekks Sorry, got crazy here with ppl marching in. If you are still there, here are the commands with there full outputs: http://pastebin.com/ba8vdpH4
[16:28] <jws> (I had to install SSH so I could copy-paste from that machine)
[16:31] <aris1> ls
[16:34] <Penorsaurus> Hi
[16:34] <Penorsaurus> I am haing an issue with my buntu 14.04 server
[16:35] <Penorsaurus> I am hosted with OVH and they had a electrical problem
[16:35] <Penorsaurus> now, on boot I get: mounting local filesystem FAILED
[16:35] <Penorsaurus> I tried the instructions listed here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361332/ubuntu-13-04-to-13-10-filesystem-check-or-mount-failed
[16:35] <Penorsaurus> with no luck
[16:35] <Penorsaurus> any suggestions?
[16:36] <davisonio> Tried contacting OVH? If they were to blame then they should sort this out for you
[16:36] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, If I can fix it mysel, it would be ideal.
[16:36] <Penorsaurus> they will take forever.
[16:36] <Penorsaurus> I can go into rescue mode
[16:36] <Penorsaurus> do you have any s uggestions?
[16:37] <axk4545> what is the package name for orage global calendar?
[16:37] <davisonio> Penorsaurus: What's the contents of /etc/fstab?
[16:38] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, let me boot into the rescue moe.
[16:38] <davisonio> Ok
[16:38] <davisonio> Also check what's in /dev
[16:38] <Penorsaurus> so nano /etc/fstab right?
[16:39] <bekks> Penorsaurus: dont forget sudo
[16:39] <Penorsaurus> it'll take a minute or two to reboot to rescue mode.
[16:39] <Penorsaurus> I'm logged in as root in rescue mode always.
[16:40] <davisonio> axk4545: It's called evolution. So the package names are evolution and evolution-indicator
[16:41] <Penorsaurus> almost done
[16:41] <Penorsaurus> hopefully I don't need to reinstall everything
[16:41] <Penorsaurus> I migrated to ovh like 2 days ago
[16:41] <Skyrider> quick Q.
[16:42] <Skyrider> How large should the boot / root be of ubuntu, if I have the sig of 300gb?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Skyrider  dpends on what you plan to do with it
[16:42] <Skyrider> desktop / games, software.. the usual.
[16:42] <axk4545> davisonio: thanks. is that on xubuntu as well?
[16:42] <Penorsaurus> davisonio,
[16:42] <Penorsaurus> ok
[16:42] <Penorsaurus> here we go
[16:42] <ghr> delvien "use mate+i3" sorry for the slow reply; does that just allow me to use the mate (or gnome or whatever they are) apps because they've been installed? Could I not e.g. start with minimal and then install mate-calculator (or whatever?)
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Skyrider  for me 15gb is enough, but i don't play games
[16:43] <Penorsaurus> here is the content of /etc/fstab
[16:43] <Penorsaurus> http://pastebin.com/myyMnegF
[16:43] <Penorsaurus> davisonio,
[16:44] <bekks> Penorsaurus: And whats the issue now?
[16:44] <Penorsaurus> the issue is
[16:45] <davisonio> axk4545: Ok, on xubuntu the package is called orage.
[16:45] <Penorsaurus> on boot I get: mounting local filesystem FAILED
[16:45] <Penorsaurus> due to a power outage at ovh
[16:45] <davisonio> Penorsaurus: are /dev/vdb1 /mnt/vdb1 existing?
[16:45] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, what do you mean? If they are there right now?
[16:45] <axk4545> davisonio: ok. thank you
[16:46] <Skyrider> That includes software, correct?
[16:46] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, /mnt/vdb1 exists.
[16:46] <davisonio> Ok
[16:46] <Penorsaurus> but I cannot find the dev one
[16:47] <Penorsaurus> the /mnt/vdb1 has all my stuff in it
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> Skyrider  i have a separate /home, for my personal files and settings
[16:47] <Penorsaurus> i cannot cd into /dev/vdb1
[16:47] <bekks> Penorsaurus: You can never cd into a device node.
[16:47] <bekks> Penorsaurus: Those arent directories.
[16:48] <Penorsaurus> nano then?
[16:48] <bekks> Penorsaurus: ls -lha /dev/vdb1
[16:48] <halberd> is it possible to disable the alt key entirely for gnome?  I never use it for menus but there are several apps I use that need it, except gnome keeps grabbing it
[16:48] <bekks> Penorsaurus: No. Use ls.
[16:48] <DaniKitten> Hello?
[16:48] <Penorsaurus> bekks and davisonio that produces: brw-rw---T 1 root disk 254, 17 Mar  5 16:40 /dev/vdb1
[16:48] <DaniKitten> I'm downloading Ubuntu 14.04 but...
[16:48] <bekks> Penorsaurus: So /dev/vdb1 perfectly exists.
[16:48] <Penorsaurus> seems like it
[16:48] <DaniKitten> Is very slow, will take about three hours to complete
[16:48] <davisonio> Ok, have you tried running 'mount -a' when in recovery?
[16:49] <Penorsaurus> no.
[16:49] <Penorsaurus> should I try it now?
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  wifi or cable?
[16:49] <Lorne> hey all.. did Chrome browser disappear from ubuntu app store?  I have it on my 14.x system..but setting up new 15.x and can't find it?!
[16:49] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, he steps i tried are the ones here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361332/ubuntu-13-04-to-13-10-filesystem-check-or-mount-failed
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> !find chrome
[16:49] <Penorsaurus> I did mount -a just now
[16:50] <DaniKitten> Wifi
[16:50] <Penorsaurus> and no errors were produced.
[16:50] <Penorsaurus> should I exit rescue mode and try it again?
[16:50] <DaniKitten> MonkeyDust: WiFI
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  try with a normal first, then configure wifi
[16:50] <jws> bekks, my "Mobility Radeon Xpress 200M"  is listed as supported on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver but the RC410M chipsets isn't listed.
[16:50] <halberd> likeactually I'm fine with alt-tab or alt-` but I don't want gnome to intercept if I just press alt without another key
[16:50] <shazzr> Lorne: Don't ever think that the Chrome browser has been in repos. Chromium-browser on the other hand...
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  cable is fast"er than wifi
[16:50] <davisonio> Penorsaurus, worth a try
[16:51] <DaniKitten> I don't have Cable Adapter, only WiFi
[16:51] <ghr> Lorne looks like you might need to add a PPA http://www.howopensource.com/2011/10/install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-11-10-11-04-10-10-10-04/
[16:51] <halberd> bye, restarting
[16:52] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, still the same error
[16:52] <DaniKitten> MonkeyDust: I don't have Cable Adapter, only WiFi
[16:52] <Penorsaurus> "starting mount file systems on boot : fail"
[16:52] <davisonio> Does it give any additional information?
[16:52] <DaniKitten>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.14.55 i686 ** Distro: Unknown Distro ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270   @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 995.0MiB, 79.8% free ** Disk: Total: 2.5GiB, 53.3% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: PC-Speaker - pcsp ** Ethernet: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8072 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet
[16:52] <DaniKitten> Controller ** Uptime: 1h 47m 4s **
[16:52] <Lorne> shazzr : thx... I'm a total newbie - and I got it to work 6 mths ago :)  ...I really only need it for Netflix...any better answer for that now?
[16:52] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, nothing after th at, no.
[16:53] <Penorsaurus> I am booting back into rescue mode
[16:53] <Penorsaurus> do you have any other suggestions?
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[16:53] <Penorsaurus> backup my shit and do a fresh reinstall or what
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> Penorsaurus  language
[16:53] <Penorsaurus> sorry
[16:53] <shazzr> Lorne: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[16:54] <DaniKitten> Slacko Puppy Linux
[16:54] <DaniKitten> Linux 3.14.55
[16:54] <shazzr> Lorne: There's a chanche though that Chromium dows not suppert Netflix, but I guess you'll find out.
[16:54] <DaniKitten> i686 arch
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  that's not supported here, can't help with that
[16:54] <davisonio> Lorne, you can download the .deb from https://www.google.com/intl/en-US/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html
[16:54] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, do you have any other suggestions?
[16:54] <davisonio> Penorsaurus, sorry I don't have any other suggestions
[16:55] <DaniKitten> Well, i'll wait until the download finish
[16:58] <Lorne> davisonio : ok - downloaded and installed from google... but it says I need to run from terminal (?)... in 14.x I have a cool icon I click?!   and HOW do I run from terminal?  (is that sudo google-chrome-stable...?)
[16:59] <Mathisen> hello how do i make my ubuntu server not respond on ping ?
[16:59] <davisonio> sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable
[17:00] <davisonio> Lorne, try following the instructions here- they worked for me http://askubuntu.com/questions/510056/how-to-install-google-chrome
[17:00] <Lorne> davisonio ok thx...will follow those...
[17:04] <DeaDSouL> Hi, what is the most reliable 6TB drive ?
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> Mathisen  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/disable-ping-response-ubuntu-server/
[17:05] <davisonio> DeaDSouL, Western Digital
[17:06] <davisonio> see here for the face-off https://www.backblaze.com/blog/6-tb-hard-drive-face-off/
[17:06] <Mathisen> MonkeyDust: thx
[17:06] <JamesT1995> DeaDSouL: western digital, but why so much capacity?
[17:06] <DeaDSouL> davisonio: according to backblaze WD wasn't that reliable
[17:07] <DeaDSouL> JamesT1995: I'm building a NAS box
[17:07] <davisonio> Fair enough
[17:07] <davisonio> You could ask the folks at #datahoarder
[17:08] <Lorne> davisonio ok followed the instructions - and it looked like it worked...BUT superkey search google or chrome finds nothing
[17:09] <davisonio> Oh I'm not sure why that would happen, hmm
[17:10] <dejavou42> how can you see a file's true date/timestamp?
[17:10] <Lorne> shazzr : FYI Chromium doesn't support netflix... just tested it :/
[17:10] <dejavou42> ie. the timestamp that shows from ls -lah can be spoofed
[17:11] <grapilon> Hi
[17:12] <thecyclone> hey grapilon
[17:13] <grapilon> thecyclone: How's the channel doing ?
[17:13] <thecyclone> grapilon: which channel?
[17:13] <grapilon> thecyclone: This channel, #ubuntu
[17:14] <ams_> I've followed this http://askubuntu.com/questions/610903/how-can-i-create-a-video-file-from-a-set-of-jpg-images to make a video from a bunch of jpegs but the quality is dodgy - goes green and looks all wrong. Anyone know what might be doing wrong with this?
[17:14] <thecyclone> not well! all of us were missing you grapilon
[17:15] <grapilon> thecyclone: Really...I thought I was missing out from irc for a short moment
[17:15] <DeaDSouL> davisonio: thanks bro
[17:16] <grapilon> thecyclone: So, this is a Support Channel. What kinds of things have people been asking about ?
[17:16] <Lorne2> davisonio :  Here's the error I get when I try to start chrome http://pastebin.com/YwhP2Lu1
[17:18] <kcp> q
[17:19] <davisonio> Lorne2, try running 'sudo chmod 770 -R ~/.config' in terminal
[17:19] <dejavou42> can a file's change time be spoofed? ex. stat file.txt. I know modified can be spoofed, but changed?
[17:20] <Lorne2> davisonio : ok ...did that... it did nothing...returned a $ immediatley
[17:21] <davisonio> It doesn't show that it did anything. Try launching chrome again and see if there are errors again
[17:21] <grapilon> I've got a question: Is there a channel or website that Ubuntu uses to track specific laptop compatibilities in subsequent Ubuntu releases ?
[17:22] <shazzr> Lorne: Thought so. Bummer.
[17:22] <Lorne2> shazzr : im searching around...seems like there may be a Kodi plugin to support Netflix....
[17:23] <thecyclone> grapilon: you can ask anything from minor bugs in your OS to the little green men from ireland
[17:23] <thecyclone> grapilon: this is a philosophy channel
[17:24] <grapilon> thecyclone: Okay, thanks. Is there someone here that can talk about Lenovo Thinkpad laptops ?
[17:24] <squinty> !topic
[17:25] <Kira9204> Lorne2: Why not simply use Google Chrome?
[17:25] <grapilon> I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 on a Lenovo Thinkpad W550s, and was wondering about the battery state/info in the /proc directory
[17:25] <squinty> grapilon,  this is the ubuntu support channel.  better to just state your problem than asking "is there anyone...."
[17:27] <grapilon> squinty: Okay, good. Does 15.10 Ubuntu provide battery state and info in the /proc directory ?
[17:28] <grapilon> I get the impression that it does not, after setting 15.10 up and traversing to /proc/acpi/battery to look for BAT0 or BAT1, but no luck
[17:30] <flyinprogrammer> alright so i must be an idiot... in 15.10 how do you bounce dnsmasq without a system reboot? because there doesn't seem to be a systemd config...
[17:30] <AliSh> hi. I am feeling confused. after several month working on linux I cant go back to windows. anyone here like me?:)
[17:31] <grapilon> AliSh: Right here.
[17:31] <Skyrid3r> Greetings all.. Currently using live USB.. was hoping someone could help me out..
[17:31] <Lorne2> Kira9204 : I'm having trouble installing Chrome... it looks ok - but search can't find it installed!
[17:31] <AliSh> I dont know why
[17:31] <Skyrid3r> Rather confused on the whole partition parts of the installation (wish it would be easier)
[17:31] <davisonio> There's no Unix in Windows, that's why
[17:31] <Lorne2> Kira9204 : http://pastebin.com/YwhP2Lu1
[17:32] <grapilon> AliSh: It's more fun to use a command line than pointing and clicking to type a letter/message
[17:32] <AliSh> I am .net developer but after this experiences I wanna java job
[17:32] <davisonio> I can't live without Unix so stick to Linux/OS X
[17:32] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: ask your live USB question
[17:32] <Skyrid3r> I know, I know.. wasn't around to ask it right away :p
[17:32] <axk4545> davisonio: is chromeos acceptable?
[17:33] <Skyrid3r> I have 2 unallocated space, one of 200gb, one of 86GB.
[17:33] <grapilon> AliSh: Have you tried Sourceforge or Meetup for Java jobs ?
[17:33] <AliSh> ni. I am in iran and that way is so hard
[17:33] <Skyrid3r> How do I make it so it'll install (with swap) using 200GB as home, and 86GB mixed with swap/boot.
[17:34] <davisonio> axk4545, I haven't used it personally but it seems more suited to people who only browse the web in my opinion
[17:34] <Kira9204> Lorne2: How did you install it? Simple double click on deb?
[17:34] <grapilon> AliSh: Just make a trip to London, if you can. I know this medical Dr. who was born in Iran, parents sent him to medical school in London, and he learned English enough to travel to the US and apply for a job
[17:35] <Kira9204> that is quite a werd permissions issue
[17:35] <axk4545> davisonio: that seems to be true from my experience. I got one and I am going to try to have it single boot pure Linux. Hopefully it works
[17:36] <ubuntu683> hi, im trying to install ubuntu 15.10 alongside a machine preinstalled with windows 10 so I can dual boot,  Windows seems to have a gpt partition  and the ubuntu installer doesn't detect windows 10 when i try to install,   is there some fix for this without remove and reinstalling windows 10 with and MBR partition or something
[17:36] <AliSh> grapilon. I am trying but I havent enough miney. therefore I am trying to show my programming power
[17:36] <Lorne2> Kira9204 Yes - from google downloads...it opened itself into the App installer...and the final screen said it was installed and needed to be opened from Terminal.  When I try - I get the above errors
[17:37] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: What's your deployment language or script ? Are you going to automate the install ?
[17:37] <grapilon> AliSh: How about India ? Lots of tech and entrepreneur ops there
[17:37] <Skyrid3r> grapilon: Dunno about automation.... Its saying which partition's it'll use, with no name just a number...
[17:37] <Skyrid3r> Which is VERY confusing.
[17:38] <AliSh> I should try.
[17:39] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: Are you using parted/gparted or a partitioning program ?
[17:40] <Skyrid3r> Currently both live installation partition manager & gparted..
[17:40] <ubuntu683> hi, im trying to install ubuntu 15.10 alongside a machine preinstalled with windows 10 so I can dual boot,  Windows seems to have a gpt partition  and the ubuntu installer doesn't detect windows 10 when i try to install,   is there some fix for this without remove and reinstalling windows 10 with and MBR partition or something
[17:40] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: Is this to install 15.10, or something else ?
[17:40] <Skyrid3r> 14.04
[17:40] <Skyrid3r> Windows is also installed.
[17:41] <Skyrid3r> Really wish this partiton manager for installation was easier.
[17:41] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: Oh, so you're dual booting your pc, right ?
[17:41] <Skyrid3r> Indeed
[17:41] <Skyrid3r> Installation type is also very slow to load on live :p
[17:42] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: I started out with Windows, went to Disk Management, and allocated space from the Win partition to separate chunked partitions
[17:42] <ubuntu683> Help,  ubuntu installer wont detect preinstalled windows 10 during installation
[17:43] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: You don't need to fomat the partitions, but Linux/Ubuntu installer has to be able to see the part.s to install to them. You got this far, yes ?
[17:43] <Skyrid3r> Ya.. its seeing the unlocated partitions
[17:44] <Skyrid3r> But I'm having a hard time splitting them or setting them because there can only be a max amount of primary partitions.
[17:44] <Skyrid3r> I can't set logical nor extended.
[17:44] <Kira9204> Lorne2: Since your home directory's permissions seems out of place, run the following: "sudo chown -R colin:colin ~" and try again
[17:44] <axk4545> is this an ok place to ask about ubuntu on chromebooks?
[17:44] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: Are you using four physical part.s or more ?
[17:45] <Skyrid3r> What is / installation type btw? everything, including home?
[17:45] <Skyrid3r> ** mount point
[17:45] <Kira9204> Skyrid3r: / is system root
[17:45] <Lorne2> Kira9204  : SUCCESS!!!!
[17:45] <Skyrid3r> I am aware, just curious if /home is included in /
[17:45] <Kira9204> Skyrid3r: yes
[17:45] <Skyrid3r> Not sure what I should use for root / installation, etc.
[17:45] <Skyrid3r> ** software package, etc.
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> Skyrid3r  max 4 primary partitions, that's correct
[17:45] <Lorne2> Kira9204  : OK that was so awesome - it borders on magical... thx
[17:46] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: / is just the root level directory, /home needs to be created if you don't want to do the easy install, or need a specific size for /home
[17:46] <Skyrid3r> I currently have selected SWAP & /home
[17:46] <ubuntu683> it magically detected it
[17:46] <Kira9204> Skyrid3r: In Linux, everything is a "file" relative to the system root (top) level directory
[17:46] <Skyrid3r> Not sure what I should select for the linux itself as mount point.
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> Skyrid3r  sda1 for / ... sda2 for /home ... /sda3 for swap
[17:47] <Kira9204> Skyrid3r: so you home is in /home/username, various mounts like USB memory cards can be found in /media
[17:47] <Kira9204> and so on
[17:47] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: You're not trying to create an Ubuntu Virtual Machine (VM) right ?
[17:47] <Skyrid3r> I am not, nope :)
[17:47] <DaniKitten> The dowload for ubuntu 14.04 failed
[17:48] <DaniKitten> I'll try with 12.04
[17:48] <Skyrid3r> SDA4 = swap, SDA3 =  EXT4 / and SDA7= EXT /home
[17:48] <grapilon> DaniKitten: What hardware are you using ?
[17:48] <Skyrid3r> **EXT4, sorry.
[17:48] <DaniKitten> A broadcom WiFi controller
[17:48] <Skyrid3r> I think this should be right ^^
[17:49] <DaniKitten> I'll try with and older (and smallest) ubuntu distro
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> Skyrid3r  sda1-4 is primary ... sda5 and higher is extended
[17:49] <grapilon> DaniKitten: What is your goal as far as Ubuntu Linux is concerned...a desktop or a server (or something else) ?
[17:49] <Skyrid3r> Tell that to partition managers.
[17:49] <Skyrid3r> heh
[17:50] <b100s> hi2all
[17:50] <Skyrid3r> SDA1 = ntfs, windows partition (boot).. sda2 does not exist.
[17:50] <DaniKitten> desktop (is a laptop my PC)+
[17:50] <Skyrid3r> 5 & 6 are also ntfs.
[17:50] <b100s> does someone use CounterStrike 1.6 on ubuntu ? : D i watn to remember my childhood but what is the best way to install it?
[17:50] <DaniKitten> grapilon: My laptop is a desktop PC?
[17:50] <grapilon> DaniKitten: What CPU, Mem, HDD, graphics card are you using ?
[17:51] <DaniKitten>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.14.55 i686 ** Distro: Unknown Distro ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270   @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 995.0MiB, 75.7% free ** Disk: Total: 2.5GiB, 56.0% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: PC-Speaker - pcsp ** Ethernet: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8072 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet
[17:51] <DaniKitten> Controller ** Uptime: 2h 45m 26s **
[17:51] <mojtaba> Is there anything like crouton for ubuntu?
[17:51] <DaniKitten> I'm using an SD Card for booting
[17:51] <DaniKitten> and saving everything I download
[17:52] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Is the CPU in 64-bit or 32-bit ?
[17:52] <mojtaba> I am looking for a simple solution to create chroot environment.
[17:52] <mojtaba> (newbie)
[17:52] <DaniKitten> 32-bit
[17:53] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Looking up Intel Atom n270...
[17:54] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Did you already try 15.10 32-bit install ?
[17:54] <DaniKitten> no, I think will be greater
[17:54] <DaniKitten> I will download an older Ubuntu
[17:55] <DaniKitten> 12.04.5
[17:55] <DaniKitten> graphilon: Will be grater, will late more to download
[17:55] <DaniKitten> graphilon: I'll try with 12.04 precise pangolin
[17:55] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Depending on your CPU and mem sizes, the more newer they are, the later the distro and better support will be the case
[17:56] <DaniKitten> yes
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  to create a simple chroot, paste this in a terminal ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15296009/
[17:56] <DaniKitten> I'll burn to DVD and then I'll install to my SD Card
[17:57] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: thanks
[17:57] <grapilon> DaniKitten: You can also run Ubuntu on a flash drive, to keep it separate from the computer's hdd...but it's more complicated an install
[17:57] <SomeGuy0011> Anyone else having issues with realtek rtl8723be?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> SomeGuy0011  that's a yes/no question
[17:57] <DaniKitten> grapilon: Yes, but is my only wat
[17:58] <grapilon> DaniKitten: 12.04 is a fairly good distro for your PC, but may not be fully graphical...you may need to run only init 3 versus init 5
[17:59] <DaniKitten> grapilon: Well, graphical is not my first goal
[18:00] <SomeGuy0011> MonkeyDust Mine seems to be very problematic. I downloaded the new drivers from the github repo and executed "sudo echo "options rtl8723be ant_sel=2" > /etc/modprobe.d/50-rtl8723be.conf" but to no avail. My range is extremely poor. My router is about 2 metres away and it can't even find it.
[18:00] <grapilon> DaniKitten: So your choices might lie best in a cmd-line, init 3 level, or...running as a non-graphical Linux, but with system support for various programs that MIGHT be graphically available, such as gparted
[18:02] <grapilon> DaniKitten: My Lenovo Thinkpad W550s runs init 5, a graphical Ubuntu Linux, for 15.10 (laptop is a 2015 model)
[18:02] <DaniKitten> grapilon: Both will be fine
[18:02] <DaniKitten> Yes
[18:02] <DaniKitten> Your laptop is too new, my laptop is HP 2140, from 2009
[18:02] <grapilon> DaniKitten: 12.04 might work. What was your graphics card ?
[18:03] <DaniKitten> I don't known, must be SoundBlaster compatible, Intel(R)
[18:03] <grapilon> DaniKitten: I found that most 2009 PCs can run graphical Ubuntu 12.04
[18:04] <DaniKitten> On the BIOS I can't find info. about my sound card
[18:04] <Kira9204> why not 14 or 15?
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  my laptop is from 2009 too, works fine with 14.04
[18:04] <Kira9204> if anything the hardware support is better
[18:04] <grapilon> DaniKitten: What's the BIOS version and make ?
[18:04] <DaniKitten> HP, version 1.0, not compatible with APM Version 1.1
[18:05] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Looking up HP version 1.0...
[18:06] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Ugh, I forgot about HP PCs...Is your BIOS something other than AMI, Phoenix, or Award ? HP, version 1.0 ?
[18:07] <DaniKitten> Yes, is a laptop, It doesn't say if is AMI or Award or Phoenix
[18:07] <DaniKitten> just HP
[18:07] <DaniKitten> Hewlett-Packard
[18:08] <grapilon> DaniKitten: It could be an in-house BIOS, which sometimes is a pain to update/upgrade
[18:08] <DaniKitten> yes
[18:08] <DaniKitten> I've never update
[18:09] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Yeah, so you need to research updating your BIOS, if you cannot load Linux up properly. I'll go check on 12.04 and see if this is still under an LTS. It was a 2010 release, though
[18:10] <DaniKitten> But my laptop is obsolete
[18:10] <DaniKitten> I can't found updates for my BIOS
[18:10] <DaniKitten> from HP website
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  pastebin the output of  sudo dmidecode --type 2     http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:12] <DaniKitten> Why?
[18:12] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Hmm, indeed. However, the 12.04 is your best bet, since your system is a 2009. What do you plan to do, update your BIOS, d/l 12.04, and/or run a non-graphical Ubuntu Linux ?
[18:13] <DaniKitten> Nothing, I'll try with older Ubuntu until I can run properly
[18:15] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Ubuntu's lead time is about six months before a graphical Linux setup is available. So if your plan is to run any init level Linux, a 2010 Linux version (x86, x86_32 or similar) is ideal
[18:16] <DaniKitten> I'll try
[18:16] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Good luck, and happy weekend to you !
[18:17] <gagalicious> i saw gtar in mac, what's ubuntu equivalent of gtar?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> gagalicious  what's gtar?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> !tar
[18:17] <jk> i hve hp 1301 au 2.5gb ram andihave instaled ubantu 14.04 dual but with win 7 now on startup it get hand even i have chnage grub ro to rw
[18:18] <DaniKitten> grapilon: also for you
[18:18] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Thanks !
[18:19] <grapilon> gagalicious: If you're referring to Gnu Tape Archiver, that's what Linux has
[18:22] <grapilon> Hi, those who just joined #ubuntu
[18:23] <DaniKitten> Hello
[18:23] <nickanon> I am not able to add ppa via terminal. when I type command to add ppa it gets struck for an hour. What should I do?
[18:24] <alkisg> nickanon: what command are you using?
[18:24] <grapilon> nickanon: What is ppa ?
[18:24] <nickanon> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:numix/ppa
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> grapilon  a ppa is an external software source
[18:24] <alkisg> nickanon: does this return anything? env|grep proxy
[18:25] <nickanon> nothing
[18:25] <nickanon> it just gets struck. No response
[18:25] <grapilon> nickanon: Thanx
[18:25] <delt_> Hello
[18:25] <delt_> what's a good sheet music editor to create musical partitions?
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> delt_  better ask in #ubuntustudio
[18:26] <delt_> MonkeyDust: yeah probably...thanks
[18:26] <alkisg> nickanon: can you add other PPAs?
[18:26] <nickanon> nope.. I tried
[18:26] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: how can I destroy the chroot environment?
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  moment...
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  sudo umount /var/chroot/proc; sudo rm -r /var/chroot
[18:27] <grapilon> delt: There are three such apps/programs: uw@unaffiliated/cliluw) has joined channel #ubuntu
[18:27] <grapilon> > Skyrid3r: What's your deployment language or script ? Are you going to automate the
[18:27] <grapilon>   install ?
[18:27] <grapilon> *** malachi (~malachi@cpe-74-74-105-174.stny.res.rr.com) has joined channel #ubuntu
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[18:28] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:28] <grapilon> Whoops, sorry for the flood
[18:28] <delt> grapilon: wuh?
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> grapilon  next time, use a !pastebin
[18:28] <alkisg> nickanon: what does this tell you?  apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0F164EE
[18:28] <grapilon> delt: Try this link: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3056
[18:28] <alkisg> sudo
[18:28] <nickanon> lol.. it started working... Dont know what was wrong with it
[18:28] <delt> grapilon: thanks
[18:29] <vilitaltti>  /quit
[18:29] <grapilon> delt: yw
[18:30] <grapilon> MonkeyDust: Fair enough, pastebin works :)
[18:30] <delt> grapilon: uh that's from like 20 years ago :D
[18:30] <delt> i had just started using linux by then hehe
[18:30] <grapilon> delt: Well, I didn't mention the date, did I ;)
[18:31] <alkisg> delt, rosegarden last release was on 26th of february
[18:31] <delt> alkisg: might be worth looking into, thanks again
[18:31] <craptalk> i had problem failed to fetch ppa something when i ran sudo apt-get update, and somehow i got this command to fix it, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf , did i remove everything on the list dir?
[18:32] <alkisg> Yes but they're recreated on the next apt-get update
[18:32] <delt> heh i didn't even have rosegarden installed on this mint system...how the hell did i survive all these months without it :D
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> delt  mint is not supported here
[18:32] <delt> MonkeyDust: but it is a derivative of ubuntu, right?
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> !mint | delt
[18:33] <delt> ah ok, thanks for the info.
[18:33] <grapilon> delt: I found some more links at LinuxLinks.com. There's also Lilypond, Musescore, Denemo, TuxGuitar, Impro-Visor, Frescobaldi, and Canorus
[18:34] <delt> grapilon: thanks again, i think i have used musescore in the past, but had a few problems with it
[18:34] <R13ose> How do I copy files from command line to a windows machine?  I have tried a number of ways but they are failing.
[18:34] <grapilon> R13ose: Are you dual booting Linux and Windows ?
[18:34] <delt> grapilon: and tuxguitar works "kind of" ok for piano if you invent a guitar with 130 frets and 40 strings :D
[18:34] <villab> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu on a new system.  During the install I tried to find a way to encrypt all the predefined partitions except boot and windows.  I was unable to find a way to do this.  There only seems to be options for 'all' or nothing, with the option to encrypt to /home?  Am I just missing something?
[18:35] <R13ose> grapilon: two different machines on the same network
[18:35] <grapilon> delt: Is that what they call a Mandolin ?
[18:35] <delt> haha
[18:35] <delt> mandolin has 4 strings
[18:35] <delt> tuned like a violin in fact
[18:35] <grapilon> R13ose: Easiest way, I think, is to use a flash or thumb drive
[18:35] <delt> well, 4 pairs of strings to be exact
[18:36] <R13ose> grapilon: I don't have one large enough at the moment.
[18:36] <alkisg> R13ose: one easy way is to install openssh-server in linux, and use filezilla+sftp on windows
[18:36] <delt> ok, thanks for all the info guys!
[18:36] <grapilon> delt: Okay. There was a stringed instrument in a YouTube video I saw, and it sounded almost like a plucked cello. It was a school in the Philippines
[18:36] <alkisg> R13ose: Why does it need to be command line?
[18:37] <R13ose> alkisg: that seems GUI when I am using command line.
[18:37] <R13ose> alkisg: because I can't boot into GUI
[18:37] <alkisg> R13ose: its' gui on the windows side only
[18:37] <grapilon> R13ose: What size of files are you looking to copy ?
[18:37] <alkisg> It's command line on the linux side
[18:37] <DaniKitten> No
[18:37] <R13ose> the total directory is 18.8GB
[18:38] <R13ose> I am using a liveusb and the openssh-server is not a command there and not sure I can install
[18:38] <alkisg> R13ose: sudo apt-get install openssh-server on linux, and download filezilla portable on windows. No gui needed on linux. But of course you could also do it via smbclient or via a linux live cd
[18:38] <stegbth> Hi
[18:38] <stegbth> i found an old Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server
[18:39] <grapilon> R13ose: As an aside, if you have a USB 3.0 port, the transfer will be a bit faster
[18:39] <alkisg> R13ose: a liveusb without GUI and without the ability to install software? Why don't you use an ubuntu live stick?
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> stegbth  10.04 is !eol
[18:39] <ubuntu789> Hi,  I'm trying to configure my wireless driver in Ubuntu,  I know my card is a Qualcomm atheros,  but I am not sure exactly which model,  how can I go about finding this out?
[18:39] <grapilon> stegbth: That is worthy of a museum piece :)
[18:39] <stegbth> when i try to "do-release-upgrade" it hangs at some missing packages and screen ends
[18:39] <R13ose> my usbkey is only 120MB
[18:39] <stegbth> i know this eol
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | stegbth
[18:40] <alkisg> R13ose: and you're sure you can't just apt-get install openssh-server while it's running?
[18:40] <stegbth> a time ago
[18:40] <grapilon> ubuntu789: Have you looked it up in /proc ?
[18:40] <squinty> stegbth,  i would lose it again.  no support   which explains the problems you are facing
[18:40] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  I'm not too familiar with linux
[18:40] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  not sure what you mean
[18:41] <stegbth> squinty, i am here cause there are upgrade problems. i on the way to upgrade
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | ubuntu789 start here
[18:41] <piglit> what is a good command to see what kind of pc belongs to a certain IP ?
[18:41] <stegbth> ubottu, thanks i will try
[18:41] <grapilon> ubuntu789: If Linux has found the Qualcomm Atheros card/device, there will be an entry in /proc that might denote "Qualcomm", "Atheros", or similar
[18:42] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  I've successfully installed broadcom drivers,  I know how to go about installing them,   but it just says qualcomm atheros no exact model number i just want to be sure i install the right thing thats all but thanks I will read
[18:42] <grapilon> piglit: Have you tried netstat ?
[18:43] <R13ose> alkisg: I can't and read that tce-load might be the command to use but when I do tce-load -wi openssh-server nothing happens.
[18:43] <grapilon> ubuntu789: You can traverse the /proc directory. This is the cmd-line version of yast
[18:45] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  says my card works out of the box,  but it does not
[18:45] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  says my card works out of the box actually disregard that
[18:46] <graps> ubuntu789: Are you checking for the card in Linux ? Are you using a graphical tool ?
 how does it work if i want to know who 192.168.0.02 is ?
[18:46] <graps> piglit: Try "netstat 192.168.0.02"
[18:47] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  not sure what you mean,  lspci  only tells me my card is qualcomm atheros, I'm just trying to find the right driver for it so I can install it so my wifi works
[18:48] <graps> ubuntu789: A good method would be to look it up in Windows, if you have dual-booted your PC. Otherwise, is it a separate device from your PC ? Is it plugged in or attached by a cable ?
[18:48] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  it's built in card , laptop,  yeah I have dual boot,
[18:49] <piglit> graps: i dont have windows ....
[18:49] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042]    is all i can find lol
[18:49] <graps> ubuntu789: You've tried searching it in Google/Ixquick ?
[18:50] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  been scouring google always before i come to this IRC channel
[18:50] <graps> piglit: netstat provides connected items, sorta like ports, that describe what is connected to your system. If you do a man netstat, you'll get more detalis
[18:50] <graps> detalis > details
[18:50] <SchrodingersScat> !info nmap | piglit
[18:51] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  think my driver is "ath9k" now
[18:51] <graps> ubuntu789: Yeah, I think you've got a lead there. Also, Qualcomm's website...you've checked there ?
[18:52] <piglit> graps: it is not connected to my pc
[18:52] <ubuntu789> graps:  yeah well I know my card is qualcomm atheros i just cant seem to get an output for an exact model
[18:52] <hp_> Hola
[18:52] <graps> piglit: That's good, I guess ? :) Otherwise, check nmap too
[18:53] <graps> hp_: Hola, que tal ?
[18:53] <R13ose> Any other thoughts?
[18:53] <ioria> R13ose, about what ?
[18:53] <graps> R13ose: Have you tried Costco or Best Buy for cheaper thumb drives ?
[18:53] <R13ose> I might go there
[18:54] <R13ose> ioria: transferring files over to a windows machine from a live usb key
[18:54] <graps> ubuntu789: I'd try to open up the PC and read the card directly, to see if it is printed on the board or fan or something
[18:54] <ioria> R13ose, install an ftp server on win ?
[18:54] <R13ose> ioria: this is 18.8GB
[18:55] <ioria> R13ose, oh...
[18:55] <ubuntu789> graps:  this laptop is gay,  you literally have to take it right apart to get the HDD out,
[18:55] <graps> R13ose: The last time I bought, a 128GB thumb drive at Best Buy was going for $50
[18:56] <ioria> R13ose, well, you can mount with cifs a win folder, and copy the file over it ?
[18:56] <R13ose> Yes and I will do that but I can't at the moment.
[18:56] <graps> ubuntu789: Probably not gay, probably heterosexual ;)
[18:56] <ballison> trying to upgrade my old version of ubuntu and i'm running "do-release-upgrade" and it's just bombing and exiting with the error "Aborting"
[18:56] <R13ose> ioria: yes but how am I able to see the win folder?
[18:56] <craptalk> is 700MB enough for backing up my ubuntu file system?
[18:57] <ubuntu789> graps:  well yeah. grrr
[18:57] <craptalk> making disc image perhaps?
[18:57] <graps> craptalk: Depends on what you're backing up
[18:57] <craptalk> graps: the whole system, so then if something happen i can just put it into my cdRom
[18:58] <craptalk> or maybe clonezilla?
[18:58] <ballison> great pastebin is dead
[18:58] <graps> craptalk: If you have large data files, like .mov or .avi, then you might need a larger backup device/instrument (maybe a thumb drive, 64 or 128 GB)
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> ballison  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:59] <craptalk> graps: well, i was thinking about putting it into multiple discs, since i have CD-R several pieces here, and 700 MB each
[18:59] <ballison> http://hastebin.com/raw/ijivijomit
[19:00] <ballison> thats what happens when i try to do a release upgrade
[19:00] <alkisg> R13ose: if you're using tinycorelinux, what are you doing asking for support in #ubuntu?!
[19:00] <ioria> R13ose,  create a folder on win (give permissions or select Public) and sudo mount -t cifs -o username= ,password=  //ip/folder  /home/user/mountpoint
[19:00] <DoverMo> i'm getting a whopping 0-35 kb/s from us.archive.ubuntu
[19:00] <DoverMo> anyone else?
[19:00] <R13ose> alkisg: because my system crash was a ubuntu distro
[19:00] <graps> craptalk: Yes, 700MB is good for CD-R/RW discs, but your box or container you keep them in will need to accommodate a lot of discs, and sooner rather than later
[19:00] <craptalk> graps: last time i did it for my windows system, it spitted it out, couldnt continue, dont know why, i thougt i was following its steps
[19:00] <ioria> R13ose,  cifs-utils required
[19:00] <alkisg> R13ose: and how are we going to help you install e.g. openssh in tinycorelinux? we know ubuntu, not tinycorelinux...
[19:01] <craptalk> graps: i want to use all of them since i have bought it
[19:01] <R13ose> alkisg: true, sorry, I will walk away
[19:01] <craptalk> graps: but i failed to do it the last time i tried
[19:01] <R13ose> ioria: I don't have that
[19:01] <graps> craptalk: Sure, that's fine.
[19:01] <alkisg> R13ose: just get an ubuntu live stick
[19:01] <ioria> R13ose,  install it
[19:01] <graps> craptalk: What CD/DVD/Blu-Ray drive do you use ?
[19:02] <R13ose> ioria: not letting me
[19:02] <DoverMo> it could be the storm/rain f**king up wires
[19:02] <ioria> R13ose,  ohh
[19:02] <ballison> Aborting
[19:02] <R13ose> alkisg: is there one ubuntu live stick that is smaller then 120MB?
[19:02] <craptalk> graps: like its brand?
[19:02] <graps> craptalk: Yes
[19:02] <craptalk> graps: how to check it?
[19:02] <craptalk> graps: maybe hitachi something, toshiba maybe?
[19:03] <graps> craptalk: If you can't find it in /proc, then you might have to search for it via /dev or open the PC up
[19:03] <ubuntu789> graps:  well... its atheros  168c:0042 (rev 30)
[19:03] <touil76> Hello, I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04. My dmesg shows warning from apparmor concerning evince and evince-thumbnailer, both being denied the access to the /usr/local/lib/liblcms2.so.2.0.6 file. Any clue of the cause of this behaviour ?
[19:03] <ballison> is it not possible to upgrade from lucid?
[19:03] <ubuntu789> graps:  posts seem to be complicated to get this workign
[19:03] <craptalk> graps: let me see
[19:03] <graps> ubuntu789: Have you already tried the Qualcomm site ?
[19:04] <UbuntuDude> everytime I'm trying to print the default paper size is Letter and I've manually change to A4 on every single hectic printing job ... how to make A4 the default once and forever
[19:04] <UbuntuDude> :((
[19:04] <DoverMo> unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ wtf
[19:04] <ubuntu789> graps:  cant find nothing on there to help me
[19:04] <graps> UbuntuDude: Have you tried tinkering with the printer driver ?
[19:05] <alkisg> R13ose: your usb stick is only 120 mb, or does it only have that free space left in it? You could easily move a couple of files e.g. in windows temporarily...
[19:05] <UbuntuDude> graps: nope .. where that is?
[19:05] <ubuntu789> graps:  cant find nothing on there to help me
[19:05] <R13ose> alkisg: that is the same of the usb stick
[19:05] <pilne> sometimes i wonder just how people run into these problems... like... what are you poking at to encounter these issues?
[19:05] <ubuntu789> graps:  site is useless
[19:05] <graps> ubuntu789: Well, yeah, the Q-comm site is rather large. Have you tried in Google "Qualcomm Atheros version description location" ?
[19:05] <DoverMo> ok for some reason apt-get didn't quit
[19:06] <ubuntu789> graps:  description location?
[19:06] <ballison> http://hastebin.com/raw/ugikicuvid
[19:06] <R13ose> alkisg: size*
[19:06] <graps> ubuntu789: Something like that, or "Atheros version board desc"
[19:06] <ballison> so it's not possible to upgrade from lucid ?
[19:06] <alkisg> R13ose: I've never heard of usb sticks of 120MB size
[19:07] <R13ose> alkisg: I know me either
[19:07] <graps> ballison: Is lucid a graphical tool ?
[19:07] <craptalk> graps: i got its vendor info as in ATAPI
[19:07] <alkisg> R13ose: well, you could burn a cd then
[19:07] <alkisg> Or use mini.iso to install a minimal system
[19:07] <graps> alkisg: Maybe a usb stick of 128 MB
[19:07] <ballison> graps: I thought this channel was for ubuntu
[19:07] <DoverMo> okay. well i'm only getting 60% of my normal connection, however the us.archive.ubuntu server is only running at about 7% or less of what it could be
[19:07] <R13ose> alkisg: there is no CD ROM Drive on that machine
[19:07] <ballison> deb http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main universe
[19:08] <ballison> lucid is a version of ubuntu
[19:08] <graps> craptalk: That's the generic
[19:08] <alkisg> R13ose: you don't need one there, you can use the livecd on another pc and a one-line netboot script
[19:08] <DoverMo> ballison, is there a server list?
[19:08] <touil76> Nobody for me ?
[19:08] <ballison> DoverMo???
[19:08] <graps> ballison: You can upgrade anything. You're good enough, you're smart enough, and dog gone it, people like you
[19:08] <UbuntuDude> graps: oh that is crap idea .. I tried several time on windows as well .. it's seems to be every OS issue .. the default keep comming back to Letter instead of A4 doesn't matter how manytimes I change it from control panel or printer properties
[19:08] <R13ose> alkisg: can I do that with USB too?
[19:08] <ballison> http://hastebin.com/raw/ugikicuvid
[19:08] <alkisg> R13ose: I don't know of any proper 120 mb live usb sticks
[19:08] <DoverMo> ballison, i need a list of servers in the us. us.archive is broke
[19:09] <UbuntuDude> e.g. https://files.support.epson.com/htmldocs/r800__/r800__rf/vari_4.htm
[19:09] <squinty> ubuntu789:  may or may not be of use   http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=305292  see comment #9
[19:09] <alkisg> With an 1GB stick, sure
[19:09] <graps> UbuntuDude: Nothing's better than writing your own printer driver
[19:09] <craptalk> graps: so is there any lead to my case? cause i failed to do it into multiple discs?
[19:09] <graps> UbuntuDude: But, I empathize with your plight
[19:09] <R13ose> alkisg: I do and there are a few.
[19:09] <alkisg> R13ose: well, use one with openssh or samba client in it then
[19:10] <DoverMo> or i guess mirrors
[19:10] <UbuntuDude> graps: thanks f I don't need your empathy
[19:10] <UbuntuDude> graps: thanks but I don't need your empathy
[19:10] <graps> craptalk: Have you reasearched the method with which you are trying to back up system and data files ?
[19:10] <UbuntuDude> I'm just looking for a permanent solution to this issue
[19:10] <Gallomimia> touil76: note that 12.04 is out of support by now... might be why no one knows the answer
[19:10] <ubuntu827> was trying to solve atheros wireless driver problem accidentally logged out forgot who i was talking to
[19:10] <Gallomimia> 3years on desktop isn't it??
[19:11] <graps> UbuntuDude: Have you tried searching through the printer's website ?
[19:11] <SchrodingersScat> !12.04
[19:11] <DoverMo> i'll just try out this mirror
[19:11] <Gallomimia> oh it is still. ok
[19:11] <graps> ubuntu827: Are you familiar with ubuntu789 ?
[19:11] <craptalk> graps: i was on google all the time, well, maybe i am giving you a vague explanation, anyway will tell you next time if i really having the same thing
[19:11] <ubuntu827> graps:   that was me lol
[19:11] <SchrodingersScat> Gallomimia: I forget if that's before or after they included desktop with server version support.
[19:11] <graps> craptalk: Okay
[19:12] <touil76> Thank you Gallomimia.
[19:12] <graps> ubuntu827: So, what was it you were trying to do, again ?
[19:12] <Gallomimia> yeah. seems it is still within support, but just barely
[19:12] <alkisg> touil76: why do you have a local liblcms2 instead of using the one from ubuntu?
[19:12] <pilne> well with 16.04 on the horizon... yeah
[19:13] <Gallomimia> i'm not sure if i'll upgrade to 16.04 any time soon. i'll need to spend some time getting familiar with systemd
[19:13] <ubuntu827> graps:   install the driver for my Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 30) so that the wifi card works
[19:13] <graps> Gallomimia: Just man that daemon, or look it up in the Internet
[19:13] <craptalk> graps: i have been using linux over a year perhaps, but i think there is more to it than just tweaking or changing some theme, do you know where should i look up to know more about its system? is it even good to know it? since linux giving us permission to know the system
[19:13] <squinty> ubuntu827:  may or may not be of use   http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=305292  see comment #9
[19:14] <DoverMo> oh yey. this local mirror actually works
[19:14] <graps> ubuntu827: Yeah...try looking on Google, or Ixquick, for the wifi card. You may have to update the BIOS, which would be beneficial for Windows, and maybe Linux, if someone's already written a driver to access the card
[19:15] <ubuntu827> graps:   k brb
[19:15] <graps> craptalk: Yeah, ubuntu.com and a few other places (maybe linuxlinks.com) can point you in the proper direction
[19:15] <ballison> do-release-upgrade fails for me
[19:16] <ballison> is there something else i should run that replaces do-release-upgrade since do-release-upgrade does not work?
[19:16] <DoverMo> ballison, whats the fail message
[19:16] <R13ose> alkisg: I think I got openssh to install on there.  What is the next step?
[19:17] <alkisg> R13ose: can you run `ssh user@localhost` ?
[19:17] <alkisg> If yes, then use filezilla on windows to transfer the files
[19:17] <touil76> alkisg : No idea.
[19:18] <alkisg> touil76: then remove it from /usr/local
[19:18] <ballison> DoverMo: again --> http://hastebin.com/raw/ugikicuvid
[19:18] <ballison> it's just giving me an "Aborting" at the end.
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> graps  https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public?preview=Ubuntu+Linux+Toolbox.pdf
[19:19] <R13ose> alkisg: connection is failing but this mean that ssh is installed.
[19:19] <DoverMo> ballison, the translation mirrors didn't update
[19:19] <touil76> When I try to remove it with synaptic, it says it is used by many programs. So I don't want to.
[19:20] <R13ose> alkisg: I have to setup a filezilla thing on my windows machine?
[19:20] <alkisg> R13ose: it's a portable .exe
[19:20] <ballison> DoverMo: what's the mean?
[19:20] <DoverMo> ballison, it means that apt-get update failed for some reason. try running the command byitself
[19:20] <R13ose> alkisg: link?
[19:21] <graps> MonkeyDust: I would have to create a Dropbox account, which, I think...I did, a year ago. However, I lost the password ;)
[19:21] <ballison> apt-get update works
[19:21] <alkisg> R13ose: i'm sure you'll find it in google, first hit etc
[19:21] <DoverMo> ballison, it doesn't spit out any warnings?
[19:21] <squinty> R13ose, might also want to take a lool at WinSCP (freebie) for windows
[19:21] <ballison> nope.  no errors
[19:21] <R13ose> alkisg: the client one?
[19:21] <alkisg> Yup
[19:21] <squinty> look that is
[19:22] <graps> MonkeyDust: Thanks for the link. I'll Ixquick it and peruse the toolbox
[19:22] <DoverMo> ballison, then possibly the mirrors have out of date translation packages
[19:22] <ballison> i'm currently 10.04 trying to go to i guess precise
[19:22] <R13ose> alkisg: okay I am looking into this.
[19:22] <DoverMo> oh geez
[19:22] <ballison> DoverMo: Right.  I'm currenlty at lucid.
[19:23] <day2ubuntu> is a lxde session different from lubuntu session different from ubuntu session?
[19:23] <ioria> ballison, you already read this , right ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[19:23] <day2ubuntu> from login
[19:23] <graps> day2ubuntu: In a word, yes :)
[19:23] <DoverMo> ballison, okay
[19:23] <ecdhe> I have windows10 installed and want to dual-boot ubuntu.  With win7, the ubuntu livecd installer gave me the option to "install alongside" windows, but it doesn't seem to recognized it now.
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> day2ubuntu  lxde/lubuntu is lighter than unity/ubuntu
[19:24] <graps> day2ubuntu: However, getting more into the session definition, there are similarities
[19:24] <ecdhe> How can I get Ubuntu to install grub so that it will start both windows 10 and ubuntu?
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> ecdhe  not
[19:24] <graps> ecdhe: Are you using the Grub2 loader ?
[19:24] <R13ose> alkisg: okay I have this installed, now what?
[19:24] <DoverMo> ballison, did you try this? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-from-ubuntu-10-04-via-the-terminal/
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> ecdhe  you boot one at a time
[19:25] <graps> MonkeyDust: Heh heh
[19:25] <alkisg> R13ose: now you use it to connect via sftp to the linux openssh server, and transfer your files
[19:25] <DoverMo> ballison, replace vi with nano
[19:25] <ecdhe> graps, I just have the livecd installer, and I don't want to run it and just wipe out my windows boot partition.
[19:25] <graps> ecdhe: I agree, don't wipe out any partitions
[19:26] <graps> ecdhe: Are you familiar with dual booting ?
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> ecdhe  but they cannot boot simultaneously
[19:26] <ecdhe> It seems like with XP, windows had a single, bootable partition.  When ubuntu "installed alongside" it would create a boot (with grub there), a swap, and a root partition, and configure grub to point to windows.
[19:27] <ecdhe> But all this happened automatically.
[19:27] <ecdhe> Now with Win10, it's got its own boot partition.
[19:27] <lustic> graps:   i went through this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2304250   it really seemed like it was going to work but nothing after reboot
[19:27] <lustic> graps:  im the atheros guy
[19:27] <ecdhe> And the livecd installer doesn't seem to recognize it as an OS with which it can coexist.
[19:28] <graps> ecdhe: It all happened automagically with two boot options (or more), right ?
[19:28] <ballison> DoverMo: yes i did a google first. :)
[19:29] <UbuntuDude> graps: I'm really wondering what you're trying to do here! are you really trying to help to mock people who asks ubuntu related questions? anyway .. I found the solution and it has ZERO relation with driver, it's all about the ubuntu
[19:29] <lustic> IMPOSSIBLE to get my wifi working
[19:29] <graps> lustic: Okay. Looking at the thread...
[19:29] <ballison> DoverMo: I think the problem is i have to use "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com" instead
[19:29] <ecdhe> graps, the Ubuntu livecd installer would set this up automatically.
[19:29] <craptalk> after i partition some free space for my ubuntu and i just want to rejoin its partition another, but i cant do it, do you know why? i tried to delete the volume but i cant rejoin it to another partition? please help
[19:29] <DoverMo> ballison, that's what i was thinking. even though 10.04 is technically lts, you might have to use old-releases
[19:29] <graps> UbuntuDude: Sorry about my facetiousness. Anyway, right on, you've solved your problem
[19:29] <lustic> graps:  i tried yours suggested thread but the file requested by wget wouldn't work
[19:30] <ballison> DoverMo:  Nope that bombs out as well.
[19:30] <R13ose> alkisg: I need to start the server on the linux side first right?
[19:30] <DoverMo> ballison, how does it bomb
[19:30] <ballison> So it's not possible to upgrade a lucid ubuntu server?
[19:30] <DoverMo> same error?
[19:30] <alkisg> R13ose: you first need to make ssh localhost succeed, yes
[19:30] <ballison> DOverMo: same error
[19:31] <Anny> #django
[19:31] <DoverMo> ballison, old-releases SHOULD at the very least upgrade you to the next version up until 13.10. hmm. why not just to apt-get clean to start?
[19:31] <UbuntuDude> graps: Yes and thanks for your useless unrelated questions which helped me to find solutions on my own.
[19:31] <UbuntuDude> seriously
[19:31] <graps> lustic: Not sure about your Atheros card. Maybe ask the room about your current problem
[19:32] <ballison> DoverMo: Did not work.
[19:32] <graps> UbuntuDude: Well, I'm glad you were able to solve your issue. This would be different if I was being paid to help users in here
[19:32] <UbuntuDude> anyway I'm documenting all these issues in one big log and probably will write some book about it and share online
[19:32] <R13ose> alkisg: I am getting an error "ssh connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused."  I am trying to do ssh tc@localhost start or with an ip address.
[19:33] <ballison> should i go change all my sources.list lines from lucid to precise ?
[19:33] <UbuntuDude> noobs need more assistance than just keep asking em what they did or didn't do
[19:33] <alkisg> R13ose: I can't help you with tinycorelinux, I'm not using it, try asking it its irc channel, whatever that is
[19:33] <graps> UbuntuDude: Good. Helping people with computer problems is a good thing
[19:33] <R13ose> alkisg: thanks
[19:33] <lustic> wireless hell
[19:33] <DoverMo> ballison, maybe. do-release-upgrade does that automatically, but maybe it doesnt with 10.04
[19:34] <UbuntuDude> graps: Yes .. I'll try to organize and shape it in a good pdf format before uploading online
[19:34] <ballison> DoverMo: do-release-upgrade is creating a sources.list.distUpgrade, but it's not actually changing the version
[19:34] <graps> UbuntuDude: Now I remember why I keep coming back to irc: It's the people
[19:34] <DoverMo> ballison, also, did you uncomment partner and extras?
[19:34] <DoverMo> ballison, that might help
[19:35] <teo_> hey
[19:35] <Gallomimia> i've heard many bad things about do-release-upgrade
[19:35] <ballison> i don't have partner and extras
[19:35] <Gallomimia> i've heard recommendations not to use it. to backup and clean install instead
[19:35] <DoverMo> Gallomimia, it's a lot better than fedora's methods xD
[19:35] <Gallomimia> i figure that since it's not something that gets used often, so it doesn't get many bug reports
[19:35] <ballison> DoverMo: I updated sources.list from lucid to precise.... going to try do-release-upgrade now
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> i tried do-release upgrade for testing purposes, it took hours and i had to stay at the pc, to confirm some settings
[19:36] <Gallomimia> measuring yourself by someone else's yardstick is a good way to wind up disappointed all the time.
[19:36] <Gallomimia> but agreed. it's better
[19:36] <Ben64> Gallomimia: it works very well unless you have a bunch of PPAs
[19:36] <xangua> ballison: do not edit your source list manually
[19:36] <UbuntuDude> graps: same reasons why I keep running away from irc every now and then it's people
[19:36] <DoverMo> fedoras post-upgrade or yum methods were bollocks
[19:37] <ballison> xangua: before lucid, that's how you would do it.
[19:37] <graps> UbuntuDude: Thank God the cycle comes back full circle. If people could solve their own problems, we'd all be doctors or PhD's
[19:37] <Ben64> ballison: pretty sure that was never how to do it
[19:37] <xangua> ballison: no
[19:37] <Gallomimia> in either case... it's not a simple thing to test. and the best testing comes from regular users reporting errors in strange use-cases
[19:38] <ballison> xangua: do-releases-upgrade does not work for lucid
[19:38] <ballison> is there a solution for this?
[19:38] <graps> UbuntuDude: Have you considered working for a non-profit company ?
[19:38] <ballison> xangua: http://hastebin.com/raw/ugikicuvid
[19:38] <Gallomimia> can you imagine how many system's you'd need to run and rerun constantly to effectively test the do-release-upgrade ?
[19:38] <xangua> ! Eol | ballison did you follow the instructions?
[19:39] <DoverMo> ballison, did you even try uncommenting those 2 translation mirrors
[19:39] <xangua> It would also be faster to fresh install a supported release
[19:39] <ballison> DoverMo: no idea what mirrors you are talking about
[19:39] <ballison> DoverMo: when i do a 'apt-get update" i get no errors
[19:39] <DoverMo> ballison, *picardfacepalm.jpg* the 2 mirrors that are GIVING the errors
[19:40] <ballison> DoverMo: No mirrors are giving any errors
[19:40] <DoverMo> ballison,Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Translation-en
[19:40] <DoverMo> Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Translation-en
[19:40] <DoverMo> Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Translation-en
[19:40] <DoverMo> Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Translation-en
[19:40] <DoverMo> kk
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> DoverMo  next time, use a pastebin
[19:41] <ballison> when i changed to old-releases.ubuntu.com those went away
[19:41] <Ben64> your paste doesn't show that
[19:41] <ballison> Ben64: updating hastebin now.
[19:43] <ballison> nevermind - I got more errors for old-releases.ubuntu.com  :(
[19:43] <ioria> ballison, can you paste  sources.list ?
[19:45] <ballison> sure
[19:45]  * graps looks around
[19:45] <DoverMo> 10.04 is lts, so it should upgrade without old-release. If the translation mirror, or any mirror is giving an err, it should be uncommented
[19:45] <DoverMo> basic logics
[19:45] <ballison> ioria: http://hastebin.com/raw/owayaziduz
[19:46] <SchrodingersScat> !10.04
[19:46] <DoverMo> so uncomment translation-en
[19:46] <ballison> DoverMo: lts or not  it bombs when i do a "do-release-upgrade"
[19:47] <ioria> ballison, you 're on lucid now ?  if you run sudo apt-get upgrade   and  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> ballison  fresh install takes about 15-20 minutes
[19:47] <ballison> DoverMo: I don't know what you mean by "uncomment translation-en"  There is no "translatio-en" in my sources.list.
[19:48] <neyder_> hi there, i got this anoying ads with every page I visit from this domain: ww1.searchadredirect.com
[19:49] <graps> neyder_: Are you being forced to go to that page ?
[19:49] <neyder_> i'm using firefox 44.0.2 in wily
[19:50] <neyder_> graps, it is forced because i write or click a link, page loads but after a second it is redirected to that domain
[19:50] <ballison> DoverMo:  http://hastebin.com/raw/guwuxadele
[19:50] <ballison> DoverMo: What are you telling me to uncomment?
[19:50] <ballison> there's nothing to uncomment.
[19:51] <graps> neyder_: I did a search on that page with Ixquick, and no web results are found. Maybe it's on a redirection script or command
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> neyder_  delete the ~/.cache folder, restart FF ... guess that will solve it
[19:52] <ballison> And here's the results of it failing on a "do-release-upgrade"
[19:52] <ballison> http://hastebin.com/raw/xupizegowu
[19:52] <graps> MonkeyDust: Do you think neyder_ should also check the hosts file ?
[19:52] <ballison> notice at the topic it does a "apt-get update" and that works... then it does i don't know what and starts getting ERRs
[19:52] <tsimonq2> hmm, this is really weird, all YouTube videos and everything on my system is sped up, it's not only YouTube
[19:53] <ballison> DoverMo: where is it getting Translation-en from ???
[19:54] <ballison> i see on the paste that it did a get and pulled it... but why?
[19:54] <neyder_> graps, nothing in hosts two lines 127.0.0.1
[19:54] <ballison> i did a recursive grep on /etc/apt looking for TranlationsIndex and got nothing back
[19:54] <ballison> so where is it getting that from?
[19:54] <neyder_> graps, common ipv6 lines, and 3 lines at my own
[19:55] <graps> neyder_: Okay, then maybe you could change your landing page when you start the browser
[19:55] <ballison> "do-release-upgrade" failing on lucid server --> http://hastebin.com/raw/xupizegowu
[19:55] <neyder_> start page is duck duck go
[19:56] <ballison> DoverMo: I don't know where it's getting all the "Translation-en" stuff from... and that's what's breaking it.
[19:57] <graps> neyder_: Okay, then...ww1.searchadredirect.com, is it bothering your web browsing ?
[19:58] <neyder_> graps, yup and some times it appears to false adult pages
[19:58] <ballison> i tried this and it did not work either --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/74653/how-can-i-remove-the-translation-entries-in-apt
[19:59] <ioria> ballison, can  you run sudo apt-get upgrade   and  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[20:00] <neyder_> It's weird since it started on my android every time i was reading pages with Feedly,  my app get freezed and only showing adds, the the same got me on desktop with firefox and feedly, and now with any page I visit
[20:00] <SchrodingersScat> great, you've isolated the problem
[20:01] <neyder_> MonkeyDust, it seems that it worked, how do you know
[20:01] <graps> neyder_: Hmm, have you tried MonkeyDust's suggestion already ?
[20:01] <ballison> ioria: http://hastebin.com/raw/ukeyafogir
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> neyder_  not the first time, some piece of code in a webpage, that's stored in ~/.cache
[20:01] <ballison> ioria: nothing to update
[20:02] <neyder_> graps, yes, and It seems that worked, clicking on links and old pages that got redirected.
[20:02] <graps> Make a note of it ! Good tip
[20:02] <lustic> graps:  you there
[20:02] <graps> lustic: Hi again
[20:02] <lustic> graps:  i am now wireless!
[20:02] <ioria> ballison, cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ?
[20:02] <neyder_> I'll try to clear cache in feedly and firefox apps in android, it was a painto read news and browins mobile
[20:03] <graps> lustic: Congrtulations ! You just needed a little push ;)
[20:03] <neyder_> thanks MonkeyDust graps
[20:03] <graps> neyder_: yw
[20:03] <lustic> graps:  in the end i found a simple package all I had to do was run an .sh file in a package   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2281584&page=2&p=13414356&viewfull=1#post13414356   its the first post,  so simple someone made it for me
[20:03] <ballison> ioria: http://hastebin.com/raw/umixidipix
[20:03] <lustic> graps:  thanks for all your patience man,  this chat room has helped me countlessss times cause of people like you
[20:04] <graps> lustic: Well, don't forget that this is free advice too. Some people expect a lot of things when they have to pay for the information
[20:04] <graps> lustic: Teach someone else, pay it forward :)
[20:05] <ioria> ballison,  have you tried changing repos  (not the old.relese) ?
[20:05] <ballison> ioria: i tried old-release
[20:05] <ballison> but i shouldn't have to.  should be able to just run "do-release-upgrade"
[20:05] <lustic> graps:  oh I know, i seen someone cursing your name earlier haha,  in my opinion this room is full of highly skilled advice,   yeah I'm not the most technical as most here but I still help if I read something  can help with , anyway im out thanks a lot man!
[20:06] <graps> lustic: See you later
[20:07] <ballison> DoverMo: I got no ERR's this time.  I've disabled the Translation-en gets, and so i got no errors and it still bombed on me.
[20:07] <ballison> DoverMo:  http://hastebin.com/raw/huyibugeze
[20:07] <ballison> ioraia: http://hastebin.com/raw/huyibugeze  <- that what i get from do-release-upgrade
[20:09] <ioria> ballison,   df -H
[20:09] <rakesh71> hai
[20:09] <ballison> plenty of space. 13% used
[20:09] <rakesh71> clear
[20:09] <graps> rakesh71: Hi
[20:09] <day3ubuntu> I opened a .conf file, but when i try to save it won't.  How do I save the changes?
[20:10] <ballison> I got it working
[20:10] <rakesh71> with which editor you opened
[20:10] <day3ubuntu> I think it defualted "mousepad"
[20:10] <ballison> ioria: http://askubuntu.com/questions/425355/error-authenticating-some-packages-while-upgrade
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> day3ubuntu  and in which folder? for anything outside /home, you need sudo
[20:11] <day3ubuntu> can I sudo from an editor to save?
[20:11] <ioria> ballison,  ^*^
[20:11] <ioria> ballison,  omg
[20:12]  * graps thinks it's high time to leave
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> day3ubuntu  use gksu for gui programs ... eg: gksu gedit [file]
[20:12] <ioria> ballison,  "don't do this unless you know what you are doing"
[20:12] <day3ubuntu> monkeydust it is a /usr/share file
[20:13] <graps> All right all, it's been fun, and a bit scary too ! See you all later
[20:13] <Saeid> hi, i use this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee and install nvidia-319 but can't use optirun and lsmod | grep nvidia don't get me any output plz help me
[20:13] <ihmSelbst_> hi all
[20:13] <Saeid> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15298566/
[20:13] <mattkim> hi
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> day3ubuntu  ok, in a terminal, type   gksu /usr/share/[filename]
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> day3ubuntu  or sudo -e /usr/share/[filename]   to edit in terminal
[20:15] <ballison> ioria: It's working now.  I had to use these two pages to get through the errors:
[20:15] <ballison> http://askubuntu.com/questions/74653/how-can-i-remove-the-translation-entries-in-apt
[20:15] <ballison>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/425355/error-authenticating-some-packages-while-upgrade
[20:16] <ballison> and now 'do-release-upgrade" works.
[20:16] <Elliptic_Curve> hello everybody
[20:18] <ballison> DoverMo and ioria:  Thank you fo your help !
[20:18] <Elliptic_Curve> you are welcome
[20:18] <ioria> ballison, solved ?
[20:19] <ballison> ioria: well it's upgrading the OS right now.  :)
[20:19] <ioria> ballison, ok.....
[20:20] <FourFire> Hello, i am trying to get openCL installed on ubuntu 15.10
[20:21] <squinty> Saeid,  maybe take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics    seem to recall that nvidia-prime is recommended these days over bumblebee
[20:21] <FourFire> I have followed this guide: http://www.eriksmistad.no/getting-started-with-opencl-and-gpu-computing/ (subsituting the latest version)
[20:22] <FourFire> However, the application which I am compiling with opencl flag is giving an error as follows:
[20:22] <Saeid> squinty, ok tnx :)
[20:22] <FourFire> "Could not find OPENCL (missing: OPENCL_LIBRARY) (Found version "2.0")"
[20:23] <FourFire> so WTF, it's installed but it's the wrong version?
[20:23] <FourFire> the program I am trying to compile with cmake is GROMACS 5.1.2, a molecular dynamics simulation program
[20:24] <SchrodingersScat> !language | FourFire
[20:24] <FourFire> SchrodingersScat, apologies, I've been strugling with this issue on an off for a couple of months now...
[20:27] <bass> bizzare bug I think - i change the "file association" of mp4 files ... and something immediately changes it back! how to fix this??
[20:28] <plytro> how are you changing it?
[20:29] <bass> plytro: System Settings > Configure file associations
[20:29] <EriC^^> bass: try find ~ ! -user $USER
[20:29] <squinty> highlight file name in nautilus -> right click -> properties -> open with -> select program -> make default
[20:30] <plytro> I was going to say what squinty said
[20:30] <EriC^^> it might be a permissions issue in the home dir
[20:31] <bbaqar> I am getting a "Unit libvirtd.service failed to load: No such file or directory error" while I am starting a service on 15.10 for the first time.  I know that there is no "/lib/systemd/system/libvirtd.service" but where do i set this right in my service?
[20:31] <profall> Anyone help me out with this command http://pastebin.com/vcXLrawy
[20:32] <EriC^^> bbaqar: systemctl enable <service> to copy the symlinks
[20:32] <bass> squinty: plytro: I tried the squinty nautilus method and it still switches back !
[20:33] <EriC^^> bbaqar: your service is trying to load libvirtd ?
[20:33] <bbaqar> EriC^^: Yes it is
[20:33] <EriC^^> bass: give "find ~ ! -user $USER" a shot
[20:33] <neyder_> profall, just put it all in yourlauncher
[20:34] <bbaqar> So i changed libvirtd to libvirt-bin in the /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/<service-name>.service file
[20:35] <bbaqar> EriC^^: but got the same error " Unit libvirtd.service failed to load: No such file or directory"
[20:35] <bass> - EriC^^ yeah permissions looks a possible culprit - i ran "find ~ ! -user $USER" in my home dir and nothing
[20:36] <EriC^^> bbaqar: i think you should check the script that's launching from the original service's config
[20:36] <EriC^^> bass: that's a good thing, all the permissions are fine
[20:37] <neyder_> profall, http://pastebin.com/Lu03QDP2
[20:37] <EriC^^> bass: must be something else
[20:37] <bass> EriC^^:  good that they are right - but bad that I still dont know where the file associations are being reset
[20:37] <EriC^^> bass: do other associations stick?
[20:38] <EriC^^> bass: yeah exactly
[20:38] <bass> good question EriC^^ I'll try hang on
[20:40] <bbaqar> EriC^^: the first thing thats mentioned over there is Requires=libvirt-bin.service
[20:40] <FourFire> Hmm, I guess I email some of the gromacs developers
[20:41] <bbaqar> EriC^^: So where else to look?
[20:41] <bass> OK here we have the results - changing file association for mp3 works fine, same for .mkv, but with .mp4 it switches back immediately - something crazy
[20:41] <ejbs_> can I somehow pass a for-loop’s counter to the template? such as for(i =0…){tmpl_func<i>(…)} ?
[20:42] <\9> ejbs_: this is ubuntu support. (but for your question, assuming this is c++, no, because template parameters are decided at compile time)
[20:42] <bekks> ejbs_: template for what?
[20:42] <ejbs_> oh shit, sorry, wrong window
[20:42] <bass> btw just trying to switch .mp4 to VLC - somehow it got associated with audacity - but it is stuck on audacity no matter what I try
[20:46] <bbaqar> EriC^^: So i got past the error by running: systemctl daemon-reload
[20:46] <ioria> bass xdg-open file.mp4     what it uses ?
[20:49] <cobra> hallo bin neu habe ubuntu auf dem laptop ist ubuntu sicher gegen vieren frage
[20:50] <bekks> !de | cobra
[20:50] <cobra> danke
[20:51] <bass> ioria: I just uninstalled Audacity which had taken over .mp4 and wouldn't give it back, and now the association is with VLC again so "xdg-open file.mp4" opens with VLC for now - just hope that continues when I reinstall Audacity :)
[20:52] <ioria> bass glad you solved
[20:53] <ioria> bass anyways, man mimeopen   , interesting reading :-)
[20:55] <MannyLNJ> Happy Saturday to all. I need help. I was running Ubuntu as a file/print server on a laptop with a cracked screen and all was good. Now my screen is totally gone so if I mess up the system I am hosed. I am doing via ssh 'sudo apt-get update' and it's failing with failed to fetch a chrome file.
[20:55] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Then you have to wait until the file can be retrieved.
[20:55] <pilne> that or remove chrome... as it seems a bit useless
[20:56] <MannyLNJ> pilne, i was unsure if I could savely remove it. I'm scared of messing up the system now
[20:57] <pilne> does the laptop have a hdmi or other video out you could utilize?
[20:57] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Of course you can remove a browser safely.
[20:57] <attah> So i just switched over from mint to ubuntu-gnome.. and i hoped i could just carry over my xorg.conf to have my 4K monitor working with MST... but no such luck, has anyone here been able to get that working? (i'm on 16.04 beta, but answers from 15.10 might help too)
[20:58] <MannyLNJ> pilne, Nope no HDMI and no working VGA. There is a broken monitor connector in the vga socket (prior owner did that)
[20:58] <attah> An there is this in my log, which i suspect might be the culprit:  (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "TwinView" is not used
[20:58] <pilne> ouch
[21:00] <MannyLNJ> pilne, I got the laptop for free and just using it as a file server but I never setup VNC or any remote desktop because I kept failing at it. Now I really have to learn CLI
[21:01] <pilne> i'd suggest learning it on another box if that one is running ok for your uses
[21:05] <mintsauce> Hello. I'm trying to do-release upgrade Ubuntu 10.04.4 to 12.10. It aborts after a message along the lines of :'It was not possible to authenticate some packages.' which precedes a long list of packages, including apache2. Any ideas?
[21:07] <soot_> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[21:08] <attah> Anyone with a working 4K/MST setup that could share their xorg.conf?
[21:08] <k1l_> mintsauce: you mean 10.04 to 12.04 right?
[21:09] <mintsauce> k1l_: Yup.
[21:10] <k1l_> mintsauce: i guess the packages named where intsalled from 3rd party repos or .deb or compiled yourself?
[21:10] <mintsauce> k1l_: I've removed any custom ppa's, cleaned source.list etc.
[21:10] <k1l_> mintsauce: but the packages are still the same ppa ones?
[21:11] <mintsauce> k1l_: And having apache2 etc in there doesn't make sense - I doubt I would done anything non-standard with that.
[21:12] <mintsauce> wget, x11-common etc
[21:12] <mintsauce> vim
[21:13] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Think that google dropped 32 bit support, edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list to be " deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main " . Adding the field " [arch=amd64] " . Works for me .. but YMMV.
[21:14] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, thanksi took the other advise and just removed it
[21:14] <Kartagis> how do I export LC_* to a different locale?
[21:14] <Kartagis> locale-gen didn't work
[21:15] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: K; If this is a 32 bit system, there is no other option .
[21:16] <yorick__> hey
[21:16] <k1l_> mintsauce: try this http://askubuntu.com/a/426121/31260
[21:17] <mintsauce> k1l_: Thanks, I'll take a look
[21:19] <yorick__> how can i disable my intergrated gpu? I would like to test something with passthrough the GPU. When I'd boot, I do get a black screen where I'd usually need to get the disk encryption login (when I've disabled intergrated gpu in BIOS).
[21:21] <Kartagis> how do I export LC_* to a different locale?
[21:21] <Kartagis> locale-gen didn't work
[21:22] <mintsauce> k1l_: Ohhh, this looks promising...
[21:26] <mintsauce> Assuming this works, what are your thoughts on jumping straight from 10 -> 12 -> 14 LTS?
[21:27] <bazhang> mintsauce, 16.04 lts is available next month
[21:27] <Bashing-om> mintsauce: Make your backups ,, a big change from 10.04 to releases running unity .
[21:28] <mintsauce> bazhang: I assume 14.04 still has a while until EOL ;)
[21:28] <mintsauce> Bashing-om: Allready done. Backups and full image taken.
[21:28] <k1l_> mintsauce: 14.04 runs 5 years. so 2019 its going EOL
[21:29] <mintsauce> Bashing-om: When did Unity coming in?
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> mintsauce  11.04 or so
[21:29] <k1l_> yep
[21:30] <Bashing-om> mintsauce: Release 11.04 ?
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> mintsauce  11.10, rather
[21:30] <k1l_> it was standard since 11.04. but it was included since 10.10
[21:30] <mintsauce> So the pain would be similar 10->12 vs 10->12->14
[21:32] <Bashing-om> mintsauce: I would think if ya get to 12 and stable .. should be good to go to 14 with no other problems .
[21:33] <mintsauce> When is 12.04 EOL?
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> mintsauce  12+5=17
[21:33] <_ikke_> mintsauce: 5 years support, so 2017
[21:33] <heywood> hi all. on 12.04.5 LTS, i'd like to install the HPN patchset to openssh, but that requires the openssh source to be installed. what's the correct way (and location) to grab the sources so i can apply those patches?
[21:34] <mintsauce> *cough* ... The version number is lined to the year?
[21:34] <mintsauce> * linked
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> heywood  apt-get download openssh-client and -server
[21:35] <heywood> MonkeyDust: thanks. to clarify: i had the HPN patches installed from a (third-party) PPA that's no longer maintained, so do i need to apt-get remove those first, or will apt "just work(™)"?
[21:36] <heywood> i'm a bit paranoid because openss{h,l} is a big attack vector if installed/built/configured incorrectly, so i want to make sure i do this right...
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> heywood  i guess you're safe with the ubuntu patches and upgrades
[21:39] <heywood> MonkeyDust: also, will your suggestion automatically grab the sources? (pretty sure installing the HPN patch set requires those)
[21:39] <LeoDee> hey all, I am wondering if someone here knows how to prevent the wifi from shutting off after 5 mins of idling on a trusty release
[21:39] <heywood> MonkeyDust: or do i need to explicitly pass 'source' to apt-get ?
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> heywood  true, it's apt-get source, not apt-get download
[21:40] <heywood> ok
[21:41] <mate|89554> I can get my wlan to work, but not my wwan in Plasma Mobile (Nexus 5) (Ubuntu 15.04). I suppose I did something with the flight mode and now I cannot get the wwan to work. I have the "adb shell" connected to the phone. What "nmcli" command should I give?
[21:41] <mate|89554> I can get my wlan to work, but not my wwan in Plasma Mobile (Nexus 5) (Ubuntu 15.04). I suppose I did something with the flight mode and now I cannot get the wwan to work. I have the "adb shell" connected to the phone. What "nmcli" command should I give?
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> !pho,e
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> !phone
[21:48] <munch_Marcell> Is there a fix for flash player fullscreen going to the wrong monitor?
[21:48] <munch_Marcell> In a multi-monitor setup?
[21:50] <ryclik> There's a tweak i found a couple years ago that had something to do with that.
[21:51] <ryclik> It involved editting the actual plugin with a hex editor.
[21:52] <Guest17502> need help guys got ubuntu mate anything installed via ubuntu software center cant find in menu ?
[21:52] <bekks> Guest17502: Because that is not an application, but a desktop environment.
[21:52] <ryclik> munch_Marcell: there's a couple suggestions here if you're using firefox: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1srqjd/full_screen_flash_videos_open_on_wrong_monitor/
[21:53] <munch_Marcell> ryclik: I'll check it out, thanks ryclik
[21:53] <ryclik> I'd personally try the about:config tweak first. From the last comment
[21:53] <ryclik> No problem
[21:53] <Guest17502> bekks sorry im a noob can you explain what im doing wrong?
[21:54] <lesshaste> a simple question.. how do I take an image and make an A4 landscape page with two copies side by side? This is just so I can print it out, cut it and have two a5 copies of the image
[21:54] <bekks> Guest17502: You need to logout, and choose Ubuntu Mate at the login window.
[21:54] <\9> Guest17502: you installed a desktop environment, that's not something you just open from the menu
[21:54] <\9> if you want to use mate, you will first have to log off, select mate from the dropdown present in the login screen and login again
[21:54] <Guest17502> ok cheers will try that
[22:00] <MannyLNJ> If I have a folder called /media/emanuel/setopbox how can I allow read/write access to it without needing a user account?
[22:00] <manpat>  you guys should watch this funny video me and my friend made togeteher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HSuaLx7nyk
[22:01] <bekks> MannyLNJ: you always need an user account.
[22:02] <MannyLNJ> bekks, I have a PC being used as a set top box and I want it to access video saved on /media/emanuel/settopbox.
[22:02] <bekks> MannyLNJ: And whats the problem in doing so?
[22:03] <mrdeb> does ubuntu 14.04.4 support touch screen tablets out of box
[22:03] <mrdeb> ???
[22:03] <MannyLNJ> bekks, the problem with added the windows "user" is I don't know the name of the user the box automaticly starts with
[22:04] <bazhang> !touch | mrdeb
[22:04] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Then set permissions correctly on that share.
[22:04] <mrdeb> yes or no
[22:04] <mrdeb> does default iso have touch support
[22:05] <bekks> mrdeb: Test it out?
[22:05] <bazhang> #ubuntu-touch mrdeb
[22:05] <bazhang> join there mrdeb
[22:06] <mrdeb> why cant i jsut get answer
[22:06] <mrdeb> u see how many lines we have types
[22:06] <mrdeb> ok
[22:06] <mrdeb> oh
[22:06] <bekks> mrdeb: you got answers, but you dont want to hear them obviously.
[22:07] <ethern0t> :)
[22:07] <mrdeb> no
[22:07] <mrdeb> point of channel is to give answers not give link that ppl all know to go to, where there would be no need for chat
[22:07] <daftykins> mrdeb: i'd have loaded up a live session from USB in the time you took to argue
[22:07] <mrdeb> what if someone has problem reading
[22:07] <mrdeb> it is not ok to make fun of htem
[22:08] <mrdeb> daftykins: before dl
[22:08] <daftykins> mrdeb: my advice to you is to drop the attitude and get on with it, this is a volunteer channel - nobody is paid to endure your rant.
[22:08] <mrdeb> u have attitude not me
[22:08] <mrdeb> i will go
[22:09] <sergey__> b nb b bn nb
[22:09] <sergey__> mnbbbk
[22:09] <sergey__> losgari
[22:09] <sergey__> loshari
[22:09] <k1l_> sergey__: english only on here
[22:09] <sergey__> dolboebi
[22:10] <sergey__> pidarasiki
[22:20] <MannyLNJ> bekks, I made a folder that I think I have shared the writes are drwx------ but the set top box won't see the folder or the ubuntu system
[22:21] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Then youneed to set permissions so other users may read/write/execute as well.
[22:22] <MannyLNJ> bekks, more reading to do then. I have to check that Samba is enabled.
[22:24] <heywood> argh. trying to grab the version of openssh source that will allow me to install the HPN patchset, but…
[22:24] <heywood> (1) version needed (6.3) is newer than that in the official repos for 12.04.5 LTS (5.9p1), and
[22:24] <heywood> (2) source downloaded from official openssh repository is signed with a GPG key (0x86FF9C48) that has since been revoked.
[22:24] <heywood> can anyone recommend the safest way to proceed?
[22:24] <Guest59518> newbie, looking for instructions on IRC chatting etc.
[22:25] <heywood> or better yet, an IRC channel where this is more on-topic than this general ubuntu channel?
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> Guest59518  #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:26] <heywood> MonkeyDust: was that for me, or Guest59518?
[22:26] <Guest59518> for me I believe.
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> heywood  for Guest59518
[22:27] <heywood> just making sure. i have the attention span of a gnat on crack; sorry folks.
[22:27] <lnxmen> What's the configuration to achieve the lowest power consumption with NVIDIA Optimus?
[22:27] <Guest59518> Is there a newbie channel available?
[22:28] <lnxmen> Earlier I was using kernel 4.5rc3 and nvidia-355 - it worked somehow (10W consumption).
[22:28] <lnxmen> I tried to update NVIDIA drivers to 361 and consumption overdoubled.
[22:28] <lnxmen> Upset part is that, downgrading to 355 doesn't help.
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Guest59518: This channel ... not just for those "in the know" .. ask your question .
[22:29] <lnxmen> So, I removed all non-standard and possibly bugged kernels. Cleaned headers, etc. I just left standard kernel for Ubuntu 15.10.
[22:30] <lnxmen> Then, I installed kernel 4.4.4 and nvidia-361 with prime.
[22:30] <lnxmen> Unfortunately, it's still not working as I want to. Power consumption is about 25W.
[22:31] <Guest59518> Thanks, totally new to Linux (today) and need to go to the next step, whatever that is.
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Guest59518
[22:31] <lnxmen> Would anyone help me to set it up?
[22:31] <Bashing-om> !manual | Guest59518 Welcome to our world
[22:32] <Guest59518> appreciate your help....heading for manual now.
[22:33] <Bashing-om> Guest59518: And one other to digest : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty . When you have a failure to comprehend .. ask here . Help is what we do .
[22:34] <Thorax2015> Was updating ubuntu and the wifi dropped
[22:34] <Thorax2015> , It downloaded 70mb out of 75mb, all individual packages
[22:34] <Thorax2015> , But it dropped them all
[22:34] <Thorax2015>  and i have to start from the begining
[22:36] <MannyLNJ> Continued help needed. I have Samba running but the Ubuntu system does not show on Windows
[22:37] <bekks> MannyLNJ: So show us your samba configuration in a pastebin please.
[22:37] <MannyLNJ> bekks, Ok give me a min
[22:37] <sEiNZu> Good evening. I installed 15.10 on a usb stick to use it as OS for a thin client. As monitor im using my TV but after the login screen appears the tv doesnt get any signal anymore
[22:38] <bekks> sEiNZu: Maybe the configured resolution is too high for the TV?
[22:39] <Bashing-om> sEiNZu: ^^ HDMI and the TV net set to recieve the digital dignal ?
[22:39] <sEiNZu> Hmm if id say its too small. While the thinclient is booting its set to 1080p but for the login screen it changes to 360p just before it stops receiving a signal
[22:40] <bekks> sEiNZu: the resolution AFTER the login is in question.
[22:41] <MannyLNJ> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15300783/
[22:41] <sEiNZu> I can get into a terminal session with ctrl+alt+f1 (altho that takes about 10mins) and the screen receives a signal again. Ill never get to login bekks. Does the resolution after thr login matter then?
[22:42] <bekks> sEiNZu: I just told you something.
[22:42] <Guest59518> How do I sign out of this.  Getting the manuals.
[22:42] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Thats a file name. And?
[22:42] <sEiNZu> The resolution after the login screen*
[22:42] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Show us the samba configuration.
[22:43] <bekks> sEiNZu:  < bekks> sEiNZu: the resolution AFTER the login is in question.
[22:43] <sEiNZu> The configuration for thaf would be dealt with my xserver right?
[22:44] <MannyLNJ> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15300821
[22:50] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Can you mount that share from your other box?
[22:50] <jgcampbell300> does anyone know of opensource slot machine software ?
[22:50] <bekks> MannyLNJ: It doesnt need to be visible for doing so.
[22:51] <MannyLNJ> bekk No I try \\192.168.1.104\ from my windows system and it doesn't see it
[22:52] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Thats not mounting it.
[22:52] <bekks> MannyLNJ: You are tryong to browse it.
[22:52] <MannyLNJ> bekks, how do i mount it?
[22:52] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Assign a drive letter to your share, no need for browsing it before.
[22:54] <MannyLNJ> bekks, how can i do that if i cant see the share on the network?
[22:55] <bekks> MannyLNJ: You dont need to browse it.
[22:55] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Just map a new drive letter to your share.
[22:57] <MannyLNJ> bekks, I only know how to do that via browsing, I will have to research. Thanks for the help though
[23:01] <The_Fly> hi, running n56vm laptop with nvidia gt630m, optimus technology
[23:01] <The_Fly> i get a black scnreen when i install the nvidia drivers
[23:02] <The_Fly> anyone here who has dealt with these hybrid graphics laptops before have any advice?
[23:02] <The_Fly> blank screen or worse, get logged out as soon as log in
[23:02] <bekks> !optimus | The_Fly
[23:02] <bekks> Hmm.
[23:02] <The_Fly> http://xmodulo.com/install-configure-nvidia-optimus-driver-ubuntu.html
[23:02] <The_Fly> nvidia-prime
[23:02] <bekks> The_Fly: Dont use bumblebee, better use nvidia-prime
[23:02] <The_Fly> okay
[23:03] <The_Fly> so i just need to switch the adapter with shift+alt+f1
[23:03] <The_Fly> to term
[23:03] <The_Fly> and then nvidia-prime nvidia?
[23:03] <The_Fly> i thought it was a kernel issue so downgraded to 3.91.0.51-generic
[23:03] <bekks> The_Fly: nvidia-prime, not nvidia
[23:03] <squinty> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[23:03] <The_Fly> from 4.2.0
[23:04] <The_Fly> bekks: sure, i thought you have to specify whether you want to run with intel or nvidia gpu
[23:04] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Try: ' sudo nvidia-xconfig ' to generate a new config file .
[23:04] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: i did try this, without luck :(
[23:04] <The_Fly> squinty: also tried the steps listed here
[23:04] <The_Fly> tried the proprietary driver (From nvidia website) also
[23:04] <The_Fly> but --uninstall'd that because also no luck
[23:05] <daftykins> nvidia-prime for switchability between intel + nvidia, bumblebee for legacy true hybrid action
[23:05] <The_Fly> i think it led me to the insta-logout problem
[23:05] <The_Fly> daftykins: ah i may try bumblebee then
[23:05] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Then we look at the log file, see if the driver built ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[23:05] <The_Fly> do i have to explicitly state which gpu each application should use?
[23:06] <daftykins> it depends on your hardware really, no two optimus implementations are alike (between laptop models) it seems
[23:06] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15301056/
[23:06] <The_Fly> might be a lot of crap in there because ive been trying over and over
[23:06] <The_Fly> downgrade kernel,try again, etc.
[23:06] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Look'n .
[23:07] <The_Fly> cheers m8 :)
[23:07] <The_Fly> hugely appreciated
[23:08] <daftykins> The_Fly: don't ever try and downgrade kernel on an Ubuntu.
[23:08] <The_Fly> i upgraded to 4.2.0
[23:08] <The_Fly> and read this was not a good idea with the nvidea drivers
[23:08] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Nope, did not build "  4.191] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) " .
[23:09] <The_Fly> ah, what might be the cause of that?
[23:09] <The_Fly> this is after sudo apt-get install nvidia-current (or one of the explicit versions)
[23:09] <k1l_> header files installed?
[23:09] <The_Fly> ah
[23:09] <The_Fly> heh
[23:09] <k1l_> without the proper header files you cant build any module
[23:10] <daftykins> nvidia-current is an old package name, don't use that
[23:10] <The_Fly> k1l_: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[23:10] <ImACarrot> I have ubuntu server installed and I want to be able to use cmus. I have cmus installed but can't here anything. How do I install audio drivers in ubuntu server?
[23:10] <The_Fly> okay thanks daftykins
[23:10] <k1l_> The_Fly: what kernel are you on now? where is the kernel from?
[23:10] <ImACarrot> ...assuming it's an audio driver issue. :|
[23:11] <The_Fly> k1l_: 3.19.0-51-generic and offical repo
[23:11] <The_Fly> haven't added any ppa
[23:11] <k1l_> The_Fly: its its the regular ubuntu kernel make sure "linux-generic" is installed
[23:12] <k1l_> but 3.19 will mean you are on 15.04, which is EOL now.
[23:12] <The_Fly> im on 14.04
[23:12] <k1l_> The_Fly: ah ok. so we need the lts backports linux generic package
[23:13] <The_Fly> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS \n \l
[23:13] <daftykins> i'd recommend a "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " on that one before continuing
[23:13] <k1l_> The_Fly: which kernel do you want? 3.13, 3.19 or 4.2?
[23:13] <The_Fly> have done
[23:13] <daftykins> possibly bumblebee* too if it hasn't been tried
[23:13] <minasota> This might have been addressed many times already but I was curious why a package search for openssl on 14.04.4 shows 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 when 1.0.2g-1 is available from debian?
[23:13] <The_Fly> k1l_: i was using newer kernel because i have a funny issue with the FN+brightness down key, where acpi events seem to drain slowly
[23:13] <lokien> hello guys. how can I install sdl-2.0.3 on ubuntu 15.10? ppa is broken.
[23:13] <The_Fly> all other function keys are fine, but when i hit this key, suddenly i cant even close lid for sleep
[23:14] <The_Fly> and the event queue drains at one every 30sec
[23:14] <k1l_> minasota: ubuntu doesnt update the version number but backport the security patches
[23:14] <The_Fly> i thought, again, was a kernel issue
 The_Fly: which kernel do you want? 3.13, 3.19 or 4.2?
[23:14] <The_Fly> i dont mind what kernel im on
[23:14] <The_Fly> as long as it's the most stable
[23:14] <The_Fly> etc.
[23:14] <minasota> k1l_: ok, but rkhunter keeps bitching about my openssl being out of date... I can whitelist I guess
[23:14] <k1l_> The_Fly: linux-generic-lts-wily    will bring you the 4.2 kernel and headers
[23:15] <k1l_> minasota: rkhunter is not what you think it is
[23:15] <daftykins> ^ if i were you i'd just wait for 16.04 - lovely lovely LTS.
[23:15] <compdoc> minasota, there are some recent updates to openssl
[23:15] <The_Fly> yeah i was wanting to jump to 16.04
[23:15] <The_Fly> not ready yet right?
[23:15] <minasota> k1l_: what makes you think you know what I think it is?? lol,
[23:16] <minasota> compdoc: yeah, that's what I was getting at. Yesterday I believe was the latest?
[23:16] <compdoc> sounds right
[23:16] <k1l_> minasota: rkhunter runs a checklist which is full of false positives. you still need to go through that list and do the recherché  if that really is a positive
[23:16] <compdoc> heh, recherché
[23:16] <k1l_> minasota: because its a typical: i want an antivirus so i run rkhunter.
[23:16] <The_Fly> k1l_: so install linux-generic-lts-wily package then drivers from the settings "software & updates" > "additional drivers" should be fine?
[23:17] <The_Fly> since it should actually build the module this time
[23:17] <minasota> k1l_: installed and configured on a fresh server install... no false positives except passwd
[23:17] <The_Fly> going off what Bashing-om said
[23:17] <k1l_> The_Fly: yes
[23:17] <The_Fly> thanks :)
[23:17] <The_Fly> i'll give that a try
[23:17] <heywood> gack. i've somehow managed to mess up my ssh config, so now sshd is running but not listening on any ports. /etc/ssh/sshd_config contains the (uncommented) line "port 22".
[23:17] <daftykins> The_Fly: come back again when it's black screen o'clock
[23:17] <minasota> k1l_: which was expected because I changed the root passwd
[23:17] <The_Fly> daftykins: i will report back
[23:17] <daftykins> roger that
[23:17] <The_Fly> any thoughts on the acpi weirdness?
[23:18] <The_Fly> output of acpi_listen shows all events choke when i touch this one FN+button
[23:18] <daftykins> i didn't catch the make and model of laptop
[23:18] <The_Fly> asus n56vm
[23:18] <minasota> compdoc: Long story short, the version available at the moment is good to go then?
[23:19] <daftykins> The_Fly: ah, they're notorious for bad BIOSs on Linux of late, check you're on the latest version and if so, you could try an acpi_osi kernel boot param to try and trick it into loading the Windows ACPI config for any quirks
[23:19] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Mind you I do not know ,, but with the newer kernel perhaos the boot parameter " acpi_osi=Linux " will not be needed ??
[23:19] <heywood> "sudo restart ssh" gives "restart: Unknown instance:". the "stop" version gives the analogous error. the "start" version gives "ssh start/prestart, process 12345", but ssh -v localhost fails.
[23:19] <The_Fly> daftykins: i tried the empty acpi_osi= without luck
[23:20] <The_Fly> newer kernel didn't remedy the issue
[23:20] <daftykins> The_Fly: depends if you set it right and whether the entry you picked was present in the firmware though?
[23:20] <The_Fly> daftykins: set in /etc/default/grub
[23:20] <The_Fly> with update-grub issued after
[23:20] <daftykins> yes but the exact parameter entry
[23:21] <The_Fly> tried empty and "Linux"
[23:21] <The_Fly> there is one bios version above this on asus site, but changelog mentions nothing of acpi
[23:21] <daftykins> yeah that's wrong
[23:21] <The_Fly> ah, what should it be?
[23:21] <daftykins> the Windows versions e.g. "Windows2016" in the firmware - and no, the BIOS entries won't mention fixing anything for Linux
[23:22] <The_Fly> oh, the acpi_osi must refer to a windows version? :S
[23:22] <The_Fly> if i upgrade bios i have to do so from windows
[23:22] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: To that ^^ do "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows" and identify the latest Windows version listed.
[23:22] <daftykins> yep see above "trick it into loading the Windows ACPI config"
[23:22] <The_Fly> as asus only provide flash util for windows
[23:23] <The_Fly> and i dont feel like risking bricking this mobo
[23:23] <daftykins> Bashing-om: good work! that's the one :)
[23:23] <The_Fly> cheers again guys
[23:23] <daftykins> err i own an asus and it updates from flash drive
[23:23] <daftykins> mines 5 years old though
[23:23] <The_Fly> oh, ah yeah have to boot and update
[23:23] <The_Fly> i think
[23:23] <The_Fly> i haven't done it in a while
[23:23] <daftykins> usually a util inside the BIOS
[23:24] <The_Fly> not on this one
[23:24] <The_Fly> horrible bios ui
[23:25] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: Windows 2012
[23:25] <The_Fly> so i want acpi_osi=Windows2012 ?
[23:25] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: k: old old bios version, huh ?
[23:25] <daftykins> yep
[23:25] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: one version behind
[23:26] <The_Fly> i had it from dmidecode (maybe i recall command incorrectly)
[23:26] <The_Fly> nope, Version: N56VM.206
[23:27] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Reason I say old .. is I see a lot of "2015" with that code .
[23:27] <The_Fly> there's a v214, next release above v206
[23:27] <The_Fly> will that matter?
[23:28] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Uh, now that I can not comment on as I do not know .
[23:28] <The_Fly> the flash utility is here https://www.asus.com/support/Download/3/390/0/1/OZUVpdzC8g1tIjWG/36/
[23:29] <The_Fly> ah, so worth trying acpi_osi=Windows2012?
[23:30] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Sure ! can not hurt as on 1 time boot parameter in grub, see what results .
[23:30] <The_Fly> next down is "Windows 2009"
[23:30] <The_Fly> okay
[23:30] <The_Fly> thanks
[23:30] <daftykins> i see no harm in a BIOS update
[23:30] <The_Fly> i will give that a shot also, but the util is win8
[23:31] <The_Fly> so i have to physically swap old hdd in
[23:31] <The_Fly> made ssd upgrade and switch to ubuntu, so i can develop nix-only project im working on
[23:31] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: when there's a space in a parameter the entire parameter needs surrounding: "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" is what needs to be on the kernel command line (including those " marks I just typed)
[23:31] <The_Fly> just want to get gpu and fn-keys sorted and im good to go
[23:31] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: but im adding to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[23:32] <The_Fly> so should i escape the inner "
[23:32] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: 2012**
[23:32] <The_Fly> oh i thought just remove the space in this case
[23:32] <The_Fly> so far i have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Windows2012"
[23:32] <The_Fly> i guess that's wrong :_(
[23:33] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: I would try from grub boot before making the edit to the config file .
[23:33] <The_Fly> but when i do finally want to put in here, would i escape the " ?
[23:33] <The_Fly> i couldn't get grub boot menu to show
[23:33] <The_Fly> hold shift right?
[23:33] <The_Fly> *correct
[23:34] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: if you edit THAT file, you need to *escape* those quotes too with \" ... \"
[23:34] <Bashing-om> As in: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" \"acpi_osi=Windows 2009\""
[23:35] <The_Fly> cool yes, that's what id like to do
[23:35] <The_Fly> i couldn't get into grub menu, annoyingly
[23:35] <The_Fly> maybe i was too slow to hold shift
[23:35] <The_Fly> this thing boots too fast
[23:35] <The_Fly> i tried -1 for the timeout param
[23:35] <The_Fly> no luck
[23:36] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: UEFI ? it is the escape key that grub recognizes .
[23:36] <The_Fly> yes uefi
[23:36] <The_Fly> ah
[23:36] <The_Fly> i was mislead
[23:37] <The_Fly> no issue with putting acpi_osi into GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT?
[23:37] <The_Fly> as opposed to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX
[23:37] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Got to be real quick .. a very small window of opportunity .
[23:38] <JamesT1995> Question...is there a way to install Java Desktop Environment on Ubuntu?
[23:38] <xangua> JamesT1995: java desktop what....?
[23:38] <JamesT1995> xangua: gui from Solaris 10
[23:38] <k1l_> JamesT1995: which version?
[23:39] <bekks> JamesT1995: No.
[23:39] <JamesT1995> k1l: the latest one (3)
[23:39] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Either place will work .
[23:39] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: ah, seems like a bit of a usability issue
[23:39] <bekks> JamesT1995: That Java based desktop environment was developed from Sun, and has not been put under an opensource license. It is not available for other operating systems.
[23:39] <The_Fly> (i mean the timing)
[23:40] <The_Fly> cool, will try that and see if my hotkey and gfx issues are solved. your help/time is much appreciated
[23:40] <JamesT1995> bekks: Wikipedia says it once was for Linux
[23:40] <bekks> JamesT1995: And that development was abandoned decades ago.
[23:41] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: I do not look forward to learning UEFI , My ole box I hope is good for a few more years yet .
[23:41] <JamesT1995> bekks: damn, I love how simple it is
[23:41] <R13ose> How long should I wait for Ubuntu to boot after the installation?
[23:41] <voyzrd> This is so cool !!! https://bitly.com/1QTt6hL
[23:41] <voyzrd> This is so cool !!! https://bitly.com/1QTt6hL
[23:41] <voyzrd> This is so cool !!! https://bitly.com/1QTt6hL
[23:41] <bekks> JamesT1995: It is horribly complex, since it is based on Java :)
[23:41] <voyzrd> This is so cool !!! https://bitly.com/1QTt6hL
[23:42] <Bashing-om> R13ose: I would think over 3 minutes to boot up is excessive .
[23:42] <bekks> JamesT1995: If you like a quite simple desktop environment, just use XFCE, LXDE or Mate.
[23:43] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: no luck on the acpi front, unfortunately
[23:43] <JamesT1995> bekks: yeah, Java...I know...im looking for something simple (XP style...)
[23:43] <JamesT1995> bekks: im on xfce
[23:43] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: press that one hotkey and now the rest of hotkeys queue up for 30 sec until the queue is empty :(
[23:43] <k1l_> JamesT1995: lubuntu or Xubuntu
[23:43] <bekks> JamesT1995: Then just use a theme of your choice.
[23:43] <k1l_> JamesT1995: or look at ubuntu mate
[23:43] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: tbh i can just change brightness with the slider in settings menu, for now
[23:43] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Well ,, for these lap tops, was worth a shot .
[23:43] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: yeah, it' a real strange one, every other key is fine, just this one
[23:43] <JamesT1995> k1l_: not going back to MATE
[23:44] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: very odd, okay now to test graphics...
[23:45] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: bios update is worth a shot, but im not hopeful
[23:45] <The_Fly> how is this something microsoft manage to get right, one of the few things they do
[23:46] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Graphics: did yopu make sire OEM is gone gone ? - sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" - .
[23:46] <The_Fly> i suppose they will have closer relations with hardware vendors
[23:46] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: previously i ran the intaller with --uninstall
[23:47] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Just making sure .. many do not know to .
[23:47] <The_Fly> confirmed OEM is gone
[23:47] <The_Fly> ok, reboot, praying for no black screen (or kicked out after login)
[23:48] <The_Fly> damn, black screen
[23:48] <The_Fly> im talking to you from shift+alt+f1 > ssh
[23:48] <The_Fly> :_(
[23:49] <daftykins> did you say this is 14.04.4?
[23:50] <The_Fly> daftykins: correct
[23:50] <The_Fly> now 4.2.0.30-generic
[23:50] <daftykins> likely all your tries have messed it up, start again from scratch
[23:50] <The_Fly> bah
[23:50] <daftykins> i really think the BIOS should be thrown on too
[23:50] <The_Fly> fresh os install?
[23:50] <daftykins> yip
[23:51] <The_Fly> booo
[23:51] <daftykins> i mean i'm sure someone might want to enjoy picking through the pieces, but it isn't me :)
[23:51] <The_Fly> okay, i'll back up my homedir and give it a shot
[23:51] <The_Fly> you're right
[23:51] <The_Fly> this is a waste of time
[23:51] <The_Fly> thanks anyway :)
[23:51] <daftykins> np
[23:52] <The_Fly> fresh install, leave kernel alone
[23:52] <The_Fly> straight to driver install
[23:52] <The_Fly> latest (highest version number) in the additional drivers tab?
[23:52] <The_Fly> just full on noob mode
[23:52] <The_Fly> and cross fingers
[23:52] <daftykins> would you mind reducing the enter key spam?
[23:52] <The_Fly> apologies, it's a bad habbit of mine
[23:53] <daftykins> yeah focus on the OS install and don't restore your /home to start with, keep it totally vanilla - fully updated but then "sudo apt install nvidia-xxx nvidia-prime" where xxx is whatever version we're up to now, also i think 352 was buggy
[23:54] <daftykins> ubuntu has an updated driver PPA for graphics, it might be of benefit - i'm not sure what's in 14.04.4 repos now
[23:57] <MiniFridge> Hello, is Ubuntu 14.04 (not 14.04.4) an LTS version?
[23:57] <MiniFridge> I am getting a server and I can decide between 15.04 and 14.04
[23:57] <MiniFridge> oh and 15.10
[23:57] <bekks> MiniFridge: 14.04 is a LTS version, and 15.04 isnt supported anymore.
[23:58] <MiniFridge> Okay, so what is with the 14.04.4?
[23:58] <daftykins> it's the fourth maintenance release, if you will - with a 4.2.0 kernel as its' base, typically
[23:59] <Senor> :(
[23:59] <Senor> hello everyone
[23:59] <Senor> I need a helping hand. Hopefully, i came to the right place.