[00:03] <sgclark> but but I fixed that. erg I hate mergers
[00:15] <clivejo> now if my sys tray was fixed this release would be prefect!
[00:15] <clivejo> perfect
[00:15] <sgclark> did you cherry pick that patch?
[00:16] <clivejo> nope, but its in 5.5.5 apparently
[00:16] <sgclark> okm
[00:16] <sgclark> err ok
[00:16] <mamarley> Speaking of cherry-picking, any chance of getting http://commits.kde.org/plasma-workspace/5a1a411b41f950e97d80ff7c898052fb6d02fb1a ?  That fixes a crash that occurs when hotplugging monitors that just starting happening after some of the Qt backports.
[00:17] <sgclark> once we get this tagged you can stage 5.5.5 but not before
[00:23] <clivejo> right, time for bed!
[00:23] <clivejo> night all
[00:24] <clivejo> and thanks again sgclark and yofel
[00:24] <yofel> nini
[00:25] <clivejo> really glad PIM is working and see it working so well!
[00:30] <sgclark> g'night
[00:30] <sgclark> yes I am pleased
[00:30] <sgclark> and thank you clivejo for all your hard work
[00:31] <sgclark> could not have done it without you
[01:39] <valorie> when I tried to ppa-purge: https://paste.kde.org/psuucknvo
[01:54] <valorie> I'll be back later tonight
[02:58] <khanson679> Hello, looking to get involved. Wiki says to ask here to be added to Trello -- username there is "kennethhanson".
[03:17] <sgclark> valorie: do another apt update and then upgrade. pastebin results.
[03:18] <sgclark> khanson679: we love help, but most are sleeping/relaxing after a long day. please check back Monday :)
[03:25] <khanson679> sgclark: Right, thanks.
[03:29] <claydoh> clivejo: I am all for something  making me happy. What is it and where do i find it ;)
[03:30] <sgclark> claydoh: staging-misc we got all pim working with kolab support
[03:30] <claydoh> sweet sgclark ! 
[03:30]  * claydoh loves y'all to death\, you know :D
[03:31] <claydoh> even without that
[03:34] <snele> glad you done it guys :)
[03:34] <snele> and girls :)
[03:35] <sgclark> :)
[03:35] <sgclark> teamwork
[03:35] <sgclark> relaxing tonight :)
[05:40] <valorie> sgclark: pastebin updated
[05:40] <valorie> https://paste.kde.org/psuucknvo
[10:31] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:05] <clivejo> kfunk: did you hear the news about KDE PIM?
[11:07] <clivejo> http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/2016/kubuntu-kde-a-final-call-for-testers-and-yes-we-have-pim/
[11:16] <acheron88> will testing tomorrow help?
[11:16] <acheron88> no real time today, even for a quick test
[11:16] <vip> aaand it is for xenial, btw
[11:17] <acheron88> I'm running xenial and updates-landing on 2 machines
[11:19] <acheron88> ok, bye. I'll check the logs to see what you said
[11:26] <snele> update the channel title with the info about ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-misc
[11:26] <snele> :)
[11:28] <clivejo> snele: have you tested it?
[13:10] <seaLne> does anyone else with staging have printing greyed out in kmail?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:05] <seaLne> hmm weird print is no longer greyed out in kmail
[14:25] <sgclark> not greyed out here
[14:26] <soee_> hiho
[14:31] <seaLne> well kmail is still checking for new mail after nearly 2 hours which is a huge improvement (previously i had to restart akonadi each time i wanted to check for new mail)
[14:40] <sgclark> yeah I have not seen kmail working this good in awhile. I am a happy camper
[14:40] <sgclark> was worth the extra effort lol
[14:51] <soee_> sgclark: is misc already in archive maybe ?
[14:52] <sgclark> uh not that I am aware of
[14:53] <sgclark> still need to resolve ksnapshot issue
[14:54] <sgclark> working o kdevelop now to get that in.
[14:55] <sgclark> looks like kubuntu-desktop meta package has a few issues actually
[14:56] <sgclark> and finally, today is Sunday. Normal people relax and stuff. :)
[14:57] <sgclark> I have to go do my taxes later so my day is already ruined
[15:36] <pursuivant> kubuntu-driver-kcm (master) 15.04ubuntu3-15-gc485b73 * Pino Toscano: src/DriverWidget.ui
[15:36] <pursuivant> fixuifiles
[15:36] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-driver-kcm/c485b737eafe6b8d6fb4ebfc65ececbb067e0d6a
[16:26] <kfunk> clivejo: will try! awesome
[16:33] <sgclark> kfunk: you still work on kdevelop? are python2 and python3 versions still incompatible?
[16:34] <kfunk> sgclark: I do. I think they are still incompatible, yeah.
[16:34] <sgclark> bummer. ok thanks
[16:34] <kfunk> sgclark: ask scummos in #kdevelop, he's the kdev-python maintainer
[16:34] <sgclark> ok
[16:38] <sgclark> so yes, and that begs the question of which  to provide. afaik ubuntu is pushing dropping python2. yofel thoughts ^ ?
[16:40] <sgclark> hmm maybe confict
[16:40] <yofel> regarding kdev-python, IIRC scummos didn't make a 3.5 compatible release yet?
[16:40] <yofel> but that was weeks ago
[16:40] <yofel> I know about the py2 deprecation, I even was in the UOS session and there's a trello card.
[16:41] <yofel> But from what I remember we have too many py2 deps still
[16:41] <yofel> so that's something to get done until 18.04
[16:41] <sgclark> I am packaging the last bugfix release 4 series for xenial is why I am askiing
[16:41] <sgclark> ok py2 it is. makes my life easier tbh
[16:41] <yofel> ah, kdev-python is an external package
[16:41] <yofel> so it shouldn't affect kdevelop itself
[16:41] <soee_> yofel: hiho, uploading misc ?
[16:42] <sgclark> correct
[16:42] <yofel> soee_: find someone to do it
[16:42]  * yofel checks where we are wrt freeze
[16:43] <yofel> ok, UI freeze is Thursday
[16:43] <yofel> Quintasan, sitter, shadeslayer: any chance one of you could help with uploading stuff the next days?
[16:46] <soee_> yofel: well i do not know who has privileges to do this :)
[16:47] <soee_> but i can help test any stuff tomorrow as i have free day
[16:47] <sgclark> sadly none of us. that will change
[16:47] <sgclark> working on kdevelop today. did you look over clivejo calligra yofel?
[16:47] <soee_> sgclark: wehy none of Kubuntu develoeprs can do it while we are before such important release as LTS ?
[16:48] <sgclark> because they left?
[16:48] <yofel> not yet
[16:48] <sgclark> ok
[16:49] <sgclark> yofel: any other packages out of main set you can think of we need?
[16:50] <yofel> meh, I haven't used bzr in a while *-.-
[16:50] <yofel> sgclark: where's the list?
[16:50] <sgclark> we have a list?
[16:50] <yofel> "any other" ?
[16:51] <yofel> what set are you talking about?
[16:51] <sgclark> well like for instance kdevelop "extragear" stuff, I am only think of stuff I use
[16:51] <yofel> oh that
[16:51] <sgclark> sorry I was not clear
[16:51] <yofel> well, digikam... but I'm not sure if that's fixable :/
[16:52] <sgclark> also kubuntu-desktop meta package needs fixing, sent mail to devel list
[16:52] <yofel> jr fixed kwallet in the seed
[16:52] <yofel> the others still need fixing though
[16:53] <sgclark> ok
[16:53] <yofel> the meta package is generated from the seed info
[16:53] <yofel> so you update that, then rebuild the meta package
[16:53] <sgclark> oh. I have not done seed stuff
[16:53] <yofel> it's in lp:~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.xenial
[16:54] <sgclark> ok, I will give a shot after I get back from doing my taxes
[17:56] <kfunk> clivejo: kdepim from your PPA works smoothly!
[17:56] <sgclark> that there was a team effort
[17:57] <kfunk> yep, I've seen it. kudos to you guys!
[17:58] <sgclark> will have kdevelop ready for testing shortly
[17:59] <kfunk> sgclark: you're aware that KDevelop 5 isn't released yet?
[17:59] <kfunk> (just making sure)
[18:00] <sgclark> yeah, we have to use 4 series
[18:00] <kfunk> yep
[18:00] <kfunk> uh oh, kontact just crashed :P
[18:00] <sgclark> 5 will be a project for after xeial releases :)
[18:00] <sgclark> xenial
[18:00] <sgclark> uh oh noooo
[18:01] <kfunk> no backtrace, bummer will run it a bit under GDB
[18:01] <sgclark> ok thanks
[18:02] <ScottK> sgclark: I just answered you're how to update the meta-packages question on kubuntu-devel.  If that answer still leaves you with questions, feel free to ping me here.
[18:02] <sgclark> ScottK:  thanks!
[18:02] <ScottK> s/you're/your//, but meh.
[18:02] <ScottK> yw
[20:48] <clivejo> hummmm, I been away all day and come back to my system.  Kontact says Im email but when I click on it I cant seem to open it, just a continous message "Retrieving Folder Contents.. Please wait . . ."
[20:48] <shadeslayer> yofel: sgclark can you give me a link to what needs uploading / how
[20:49] <clivejo> shadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-misc/
[20:58] <shadeslayer> clivejo: got a command I can run or something
[20:59] <shadeslayer> I don't want to manually do everything
[21:03] <clivejo> :( kdeinit5 and korgac just crashed
[21:06] <clivejo> shadeslayer: that I dont know
[21:06] <clivejo> the packages were all copied to misc and rebuilt
[21:14] <sgclark> shadeslayer: yofel was saying something about do-all in automation he will need to expand. I am not familiar with it.
[21:14] <clivejo> I believe there is a tool in the KA - https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/
[21:15] <clivejo> ubuntu-archive-upload 
[21:15] <sgclark> well yeah. what I dont know is the usage
[21:15] <clivejo> but if and how it works is beyond me
[21:15] <sgclark> no that is broken for our current etup
[21:15] <sgclark> setup
[21:16] <sgclark> do-all is the tool that needs to be looked at. it tags and uploads from what I understand
[21:17] <sgclark> will have to do each section frameworks/plasma/applications separately, and then misc bits like kubuntu/kolab*
[21:19] <yofel> actually, thanks to uscan sucking as it does, ubuntu-archive-upload might be the best thing to use here
[21:19] <yofel> the reference PPA needs to be set to staging-misc though
[21:20] <shadeslayer> if you can send me a single command that I need to run, I can do the needful :)
[21:36] <mparillo> Of all the en.IN phrases I have learned over years, that is my favorite:  'do the needful'.
[22:04] <shadeslayer> mparillo: :P
[22:04] <shadeslayer> mparillo: I don't really use that often :P
[22:21] <mparillo> I will use it today only.
[22:52] <valorie> I guess I'm the only person to have an unsuccessful -misc experience in xenial, which is good to know
[22:53] <valorie> not really sure what I should do about it though
[22:53] <valorie> https://paste.kde.org/psuucknvo
[22:58] <sgclark> valorie: unfortunately that error is as useless as they come ( not your fault ) so I can tell you though from you first paste you have cruftt from another ppa. Can you try sudo apt-get -f install for me?
[22:59] <valorie> yes, will do
[23:00] <sgclark> the coredumps are quite troubling as well. Can't say I have seen coredumps on apt issues before..
[23:03] <valorie> that's working
[23:04] <valorie> yes, I tried ppa-purging the staging-kdeapplications, but that errored out 
[23:04] <valorie> probably where the cruft is
[23:04] <valorie> although I may have tested some stuff for clive earlier and not ppa-purged it
[23:05] <sgclark> np. I mess up my packages and ppas all lthe time :) always fixable, just sometimes harder than others
[23:07] <valorie> right
[23:07] <valorie> so I got a few warnings, but it was successful
[23:07] <valorie> are the warnings useful or should I just restart as it asks?
[23:10] <sgclark> warnings are useful! paste please
[23:12] <valorie> ok, pastebin erased and replaced with the warning, on to the end
[23:12] <sgclark> whichpastebin?
[23:13] <valorie> https://paste.kde.org/psuucknvo
[23:13] <sgclark> still see the same thing
[23:13] <valorie> piffle
[23:14] <valorie> it gave me a new number, sorry
[23:15] <valorie> https://paste.kde.org/pzi1nyhz0
[23:17] <sgclark> ok nothing  there to be concerned about feel free to reboot
[23:18] <valorie> cool
[23:18] <valorie> huh, something is making the screen flicker as it logs out
[23:19] <valorie> graphics drivers are soo....... gah
[23:22] <valorie> hmmm, tried re-adding the -misc ppa, and then update: another core dump
[23:22] <valorie> I think I'll remove it
[23:23] <valorie> nope, core dump from ppa-purge of it
[23:23] <valorie> messed up
[23:23] <sgclark> I have never seen coredumps on apt I am of no help there :(
[23:24] <valorie> me either
[23:24] <valorie> removing it works, and since I don't use this computer much, I expect all will be well in time
[23:25] <sgclark> have you tried an update with  the ppa?
[23:25] <sgclark> errr without
[23:25] <valorie> oh, good idea
[23:25] <valorie> same appstreamcli error, then core dump
[23:26] <valorie> it never even gets to our stuff, just to ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease
[23:26] <valorie> maybe I should report this to the qa site
[23:27] <valorie> hmmm, take that back, since I'm not testing an iso
[23:30] <sgclark> we dont have anything in xenial archive
[23:30] <sgclark> but maybe there is an important update that stop apt coredumps lol worth a shot
[23:37] <valorie> since I can't update, but can apt install -f, I hope to be able to upgrade at some point
[23:38] <valorie> if not, I can do a fresh install, nbd either way
[23:38] <valorie> computer still boots, works
[23:58] <clivejo> valorie: looks more like a corrupt apt install