[02:20] <neoromantique> hi
[02:20] <neoromantique> Does latest iso of 16.04 install fine?
[02:22] <flocculant> neoromantique: well
[02:22] <flocculant> it does for Xubuntu - which specific image do you mean?
[02:22] <neoromantique> flocculant: thing is, it might be my bad
[02:22] <neoromantique> But it just didn't install grub it seems
[02:22] <flocculant> oh right
[02:22] <neoromantique> if there's no known issue, I'll try again
[02:22] <flocculant> mmm
[02:23] <flocculant> neoromantique: flavour?
[02:23] <neoromantique> ubuntu
[02:23] <flocculant> right - could be fubar - rarely check it - not heard anything tbh
[02:26] <neoromantique> making new usb just in case
[02:33] <flocculant> :)
[02:57] <flocculant> neoromantique: just ftr "<pleia2> flocculant: yep, install itself went beautifully"
[03:02] <Volund> hallo future people.
[03:06]  * flocculant wanders off
[03:06] <flocculant> stuck well in the past
[03:13] <Volund> So I'm pondering setting up my Ubuntu as a SAMBA server but I want to use my two 4tb drives as mirrors of each other. I've been told ZFS may be a better solution than LVM mirroring, but ZFS isn't natively in Ubuntu 15 but IS in 16, I hear. though I've heard that I can install it on 15, not sure. Can someone clear this up? I'm on ubuntu 15 at the moment. Not averse to using 16 beta mind you, but.... *peer*
[09:48] <Dorfen> Hi guys! I've caught a virus and gotta redo my system. Im wondering if I would have many issues by just going 16.04 now?
[09:48] <Dorfen> I ran the 15.04 equivalent pretty muh without troubles.
[10:31] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:44] <lordievader> !schedule
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[16:10] <ChibaPet> People don't stay around long enough to take in proper answers.
[17:13] <tete_> hi, can someone help me getting my wlan0 working in xenial? i created /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and started the service. but wpa_cli gives me: Could not connect to wpa_supplicant: (nil) - re-trying
[17:51] <j09> I've just installed Chromium and it's companion the pepperflash plugin, however I can't seem to get Chromium to see the flash plugin. It doesn't show up in chrome://plugins . I'm on 16.04
[17:55] <j09> Hello?
[17:57] <BluesKaj> j09, http://askubuntu.com/questions/578175/pepper-flash-plugin-is-installed-but-doesnt-work-on-chromium
[17:59] <j09> That seems a lot more complicated than Manjaro
[18:01] <BluesKaj> j09, chromium is out of date
[18:02] <j09> I seem to remember it was updated recently.
[18:03] <BluesKaj> j09, you won't notice any diffeence between chrome and chromium , except that chrome works
[18:04] <j09> I'd really prefer to support as much of the open-source side of things as possible. I'm really sorry to be a bug about this, but this just doesn't seem like a problem on other less-devoloped distros, so I don't really get why it's a problem here.
[18:06] <BluesKaj> dunno either , but chromium is not as supported as chrome, but if you insist the you'll have to live with it's shortcomings
[18:06] <BluesKaj> well supported
[18:07] <j09> Ok, thanks for taking the time to talk me through it. Maybe I should just use Firefox. What do you use if you don't mind me asking?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> I use firefox with freshplayer plugin, fwiw
[18:11] <BluesKaj> on kubuntu 16,04 here
[18:12] <j09> Do you know when they'll start to implement the tab sandboxing?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> it's already available mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/priv8/
[18:15] <j09> nice. Chromium really does seem like a pain for Linux devs. I hear people on Fedora dispise it.
[18:17] <j09> I'm going to switch across to Firefox then. I really appreciate the time and the help BluesKaj. Thank you very much.
[18:18] <Daekdroom> BluesKaj, I think what he means by tab sandboxing is e10s, which is not available in the stable Channel yet.
[18:18] <Daekdroom> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Past_Milestones
[18:18] <Daekdroom> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Schedule actually :P
[18:21] <j09> Is it in firefox Beta yet? or soon?
[18:22] <Daekdroom> It's in Aurora builds by default, not sure about Beta.
[18:22] <BluesKaj> there is one thing with firefox atm tho , and it seems to use a lot of cpu on javascript heavy websites like the wethernetwork
[18:22] <BluesKaj> j09,^
[18:23] <j09> that's actually the reason I was asking about Sandboxing.
[18:45] <Anthony-L_> hi
[18:45] <Anthony-L_> just installed 16.04, is there anything i should do now to make sure everything is chip chop?
[18:58] <Anthony-L_> anyone here?
[18:58] <penguin42> I think there are a set of stuff for testing
[18:58] <penguin42> Anthony-L_: See http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[18:58] <penguin42> Anthony-L_: However, if it's all apparently working then just enjoy
[18:59] <k1l> Anthony-L_: run the updates
[18:59] <Anthony-L_> yea, at first, i installed 14.04 and 15.10. then i installed 16.04 and it's working a lot smoother.
[19:00] <Anthony-L_> k1l, i dont know the commands.
[19:01] <Anthony-L_> brb, i'm going to see if it actually reboots. *fingers crossed*
[19:07] <Anthony-L> i'm back :)
[19:08] <Anthony-L> i installed steam, but it's not launching.
[19:11] <Anthony-L> SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[20:18] <Anthony-L> SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[20:18] <Anthony-L> trying to install steam
[20:19] <j09> Hi, I'm trying to install kdenlive on Ubuntu MATE 16.04 but I'm not getting the icons. What package do I need to install to recify this?
[20:22] <krabador> j09, kde-runtime kde-workspace-data
[20:23] <j09> kde-workspace-data is not a package that exsists
[20:24] <penguin42> it probably got renamed in kde5 I guess
[20:24] <j09> that's why i'm here. I can't find it.
[20:25] <penguin42> j09: If kdenlive isn't working then please file a bug against it
[20:26] <penguin42> j09: But might be worth trying kde-runtime-data or kde-baseapps-data or any of the other kde*data
[20:26] <j09> This is an old bug. If they wanted to fix it, they would have done so by now.
[20:27] <penguin42> j09: It depends if anyone noticed it - there are zillions of them; you could asking in the kubuntu channels
[20:27] <j09> It's bee around for over 2 years
[20:27] <j09> It's a well known issues.
[20:30] <j09> I'm installing a ton of packages that "seem" right, but I got nothing.
[20:38] <j09> Surely you guys must be familiar with this.
[21:11] <krabador> j09, kde-runtime got the job ^
[21:11] <krabador> ?
[21:12] <j09> kde-runtime is installed
[21:32] <Anthony-L> what's the command for installing updates
[21:32] <Anthony-L> ?
[21:34] <squinty> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:55] <jtaylor> if your learning new, use apt update; apt upgrade
[21:55] <jtaylor> the new interface is more consistent
[22:14] <Anthony-L_> when does 16.04 officially release?
[22:15] <k1l> end of april
[22:15] <k1l> the names are year.month
[22:15] <Anthony-L_> how would i go about installing google chrome?
[22:15] <Anthony-L_> oh cool. that's good to know.
[22:15] <k1l> !chrome
[22:16] <Anthony-L_> in the terminal?
[22:16] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/510056/how-to-install-google-chrome
[22:16] <k1l> get the .deb from the google chrome website and install it
[22:16] <Anthony-L_> i get the .deb and it's not installing. there isn't a launch file.
[22:16] <squinty> gdebi
[22:17] <squinty> install that program
[22:17] <tsimonq2> after you install gdebi, cd into the directory that the deb is in then run sudo gdebi FILE.deb
[22:18] <Anthony-L_> install gdebi?
[22:18] <Anthony-L_> where is that? i'm super new to this.
[22:18] <squinty> or right click and use open with
[22:18] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: open the Ubuntu Software Center and install it through there
[22:18] <Anthony-L_> there we go
[22:18] <tsimonq2> then right click and open with GDebi
[22:18] <Anthony-L_> gnome or kde?
[22:19] <tsimonq2> what do you mean?
[22:19] <Anthony-L_> there's two options for gdeb.
[22:19] <tsimonq2> give us a screenshot
[22:19] <squinty> kde 16.04 isn't released yet is it?
[22:20] <squinty> did you install the kde desktop?
[22:20] <tsimonq2> squinty: KDE has a different versioning system then Ubuntu, maybe you are talking about Kubuntu :)
[22:20] <dax> squinty: Kubuntu has the same release cycle as Ubuntu
[22:20] <Anthony-L_> i just installed ubuntu 16, and nothing else.
[22:20] <tsimonq2> the current KDE version is 5.5.5 :)
[22:20] <Anthony-L_> how do i send you guys the screenshot?
[22:21] <tsimonq2> squinty: stop confusing the person asking the question :)
[22:21] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: upload it to imgur and give us the link?
[22:21] <Anthony-L_> yea, you guys are speaking chinese to me. haha
[22:21] <Anthony-L_> i dont have an imgur acct.
[22:22] <tsimonq2> you don't have to hvae one :)
[22:22] <Anthony-L_> o ok.
[22:22] <Anthony-L_> let me mess with it. give me a min.
[22:22] <squinty> fwiw  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/02/ubuntu-16-04-beta-1-download-flavors
[22:23] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: if you go to imgur.com then click Upload Images, you should be able to go from there :)
[22:23] <Anthony-L_> https://imgur.com/edit
[22:24] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: or if you cannot get that to work for any reason, just save it locally and email it to me at tsimonq2@ubuntu.com
[22:24] <Anthony-L_> http://imgur.com/hiT4a7p
[22:24] <Anthony-L_> there we go
[22:24] <tsimonq2> yay
[22:24] <squinty> "Not taking part is Kubuntu"   is that information wrong?
[22:25] <tsimonq2> squinty: nope, Kubuntu didn't take part in Beta 1
[22:25] <squinty> thanks
[22:25] <tsimonq2> squinty: ask them directly at #kubuntu-devel about why not :)
[22:25] <Anthony-L_> just let me know which one to download, thanks for your help
[22:25] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: oh jeez, open a terminal and type the following command: sudo apt update && sudo apt install gdebi
[22:25] <squinty> tsimonq2,  i read the reason awhile ago :-)
[22:26] <tsimonq2> squinty: ok :)
[22:26] <Anthony-L_> tsimonq2, it's installing.
[22:26] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: FWIW I like the terminal better so I just told you to do that because that's what *I* would do, but I *think* you could install either one
[22:27] <Anthony-L_> so what's gdeb, like an uzip application?
[22:27] <Anthony-L_> unzip*
[22:27] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: what are you coming from? Windows or Mac?
[22:27] <Anthony-L_> windows
[22:27] <Anthony-L_> i'm trying to get out of the micrsoft loop.
[22:27] <Anthony-L_> expand my horizons
[22:28] <tsimonq2> well consider a deb file an exe file and gdebi the same as just double-clicking the exe file :)
[22:28] <squinty> checks to make sure that all dependancies are satisfied and if ok will install deb package softwre
[22:28] <Anthony-L_> oh ok
[22:28] <Anthony-L_> okay, gdeb is installed.
[22:28] <Anthony-L_> i'd like to use the terminal more, but i don't know all the commands.
[22:28] <Anthony-L_> you guys are like machines. haha
[22:28] <squinty> right click on and use "open with" or file-roller will grab it
[22:28] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: alright, go to where you have the .deb file saved, you should be able to right-click and open with GDebi
[22:29] <Anthony-L_> it's installing, yay!
[22:29] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: if not, open the terminal and use cd to get to the directory (man cd if you don't know how to use that) and then do sudo gdebi FILE.deb
[22:29] <tsimonq2> okay
[22:29] <tsimonq2> cool! ;D
[22:29] <tsimonq2> *:D
[22:30] <Anthony-L_> hey, i have another problem...it's not related to gdeb. it's related to my illuminated keyboard.
[22:30] <tsimonq2> tell us :)
[22:30] <Anthony-L_> on windows, i'd use the scrl lock button to turn it on.
[22:30] <Anthony-L_> does ubuntu even have a scrl lock button?
[22:30] <Anthony-L_> because when i push it, it doesn't illuminate.
[22:30] <tsimonq2> hmm that's weird
[22:31] <tsimonq2> to be honest, I don't know
[22:31]  * tsimonq2 uses Google-fu
[22:32] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: FWIW http://askubuntu.com/questions/127167/how-do-i-enable-scroll-lock might help?
[22:32] <Anthony-L_> hold on a sec, lets reverse. i just installed chrome with the gdeb. where did chrome go then?
[22:32] <tsimonq2> so it installed successfully?
[22:32] <Anthony-L_> i'm assuming. it said, it was was done installing.
[22:32] <tsimonq2> press the super key (AKA the Windows key) and type in Google Chrome
[22:33] <tsimonq2> it should be in the Unity "Dash"
[22:33] <tsimonq2> when you search it, it should pop up
[22:34] <Anthony-L_> negative
[22:34] <tsimonq2> hmm
[22:34] <tsimonq2> what exactly is negative?
[22:34] <Anthony-L_> no
[22:34] <tsimonq2> hm?
[22:34] <tsimonq2> I don't know what's wrong :)
[22:35] <tsimonq2> so you couldn't search or it didn't show up?
[22:35] <Anthony-L_> didn't show
[22:36] <tsimonq2> hmm, I can't test this right now, but instead of typing Google Chrome, type "google-chrome"
[22:36] <tsimonq2> anything then?
[22:36] <Anthony-L_> no
[22:36] <tsimonq2> hmm
[22:36] <squinty> chrome-browser ??
[22:36] <tsimonq2> squinty: no that's not the package name
[22:37] <squinty> just installing it right now to see what is happening.
[22:37] <Anthony-L_> gdeb extracted the package...maybe it didn't install.
[22:37] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: if you want Chrome now, just install Chromium from the software center, then we can diagnose the Chrome issues
[22:37] <tsimonq2> just so you have something to work with :)
[22:38] <tsimonq2> Chrome = Chromium with extras
[22:38] <squinty> Anthony-L_,  did you right click on the deb  if you double click then file-roller probably grabbed it
[22:38] <Anthony-L_> i double clicked
[22:38] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: you know what, this is a bit cumbersome, where di yo usave the file?
[22:38] <tsimonq2> *did you
[22:39] <Anthony-L_> just to the downloads folder.
[22:39] <squinty> shows up here fine after installing usiing gdebi
[22:39] <Anthony-L_> let me try again
[22:39] <tsimonq2> okay, so type the following in the terminal: cd ~/Downloads && sudo gdebi FILE.deb - make sure to replace that with the actual deb name
[22:40]  * tsimonq2 gives up on GUI XD
[22:40] <squinty> actually if gdebi is already installeed, firefox asks if you want to use gebi when downloading the file.  really nice and simple without using commandline at all
[22:40] <Anthony-L_> i reinstalled it it with the gdeb. i see it now.
[22:40] <tsimonq2> yay! so you can launch it?
[22:41] <Anthony-L_> yes sir
[22:41] <tsimonq2> hooray!
[22:41] <Anthony-L_> i have another question.
[22:41] <Anthony-L_> when i restart, i crash and have to do a restart to come back to the GUI.
[22:41] <Anthony-L_> you know why that is?
[22:41] <squinty> beta
[22:42] <tsimonq2> I'm sorry if this seemed a bit tedious, once you get the hang of it, it's easy. If you want any more help with anything Ubuntu or command line or installing applications, don't be afraid to message me or email me at tsimonq2@ubuntu.com.
[22:42] <squinty> heehee
[22:42] <tsimonq2> squinty: nope :P
[22:42] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: #ubuntu-desktop for that maybe? :)
[22:42] <Anthony-L_> oh, another channel?
[22:42] <squinty> doesn't crash here either but there are a few bugs
[22:43] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: we have a couple of different channels, they can guide you to report a bug :)
[22:43] <tsimonq2> #ubuntu-desktop can, with Unity
[22:43] <Anthony-L_> before i was installing 14 and 15. i was having more problems with those because of my new gpu. now that i'm using 16, it's a lot more fluid.
[22:43] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: also, just an FYI, the versioning goes 14.04, 14.10, 15.04, 15.10, and the upcoming release is 16.04. :)
[22:44] <Anthony-L_> my pc is meant for gaming, so that's probably why i'm having issues with linux, i'm assuming.
[22:44] <squinty> not sure if i am really keen on the gnome desktop though....have to wait and see I guess
[22:44] <Anthony-L_> i knew that. i was just being lazy. :P
[22:44] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: here: http://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/4a135f44-release_eof-ubuntu.jpg
[22:45] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: Linux isn't bad for gaming, it just lacks games because the majority of people are on Windows, and that makes game developers want to target that. :)
[22:45] <Anthony-L_> yea, i understand. the big reason was, i heard micrsoft was going to monoplise the gaming industry. thats' kind of why i wanted to switch to linux.
[22:46] <Anthony-L_> try to monopolise
[22:46] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: again, if you need any more help, even for small things, don't hesitate to contact me :)
[22:46] <tsimonq2> yeah I get your point :)
[22:46] <tsimonq2> Microsoft = NSA, but maybe that's because I'm paranoid XD
[22:46] <Anthony-L_> tsimonq2, you're the man. thank you for your help. if i had some money or beer, i'd send it your way.
[22:47] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: well I'm 14 so I can't have beer yet XD
[22:47] <Anthony-L_> 14! what are you doing using linux?
[22:47] <Anthony-L_> :P
[22:47] <Anthony-L_> i heard linux was for old people.
[22:48] <tsimonq2> lol I'm a power user and I couldn't squeeze enough out of Windows :D
[22:48] <tsimonq2> no way! :D
[22:48] <Anthony-L_> I'm teasing ya.
[22:48] <tsimonq2> XD
[22:48] <Anthony-L_> what do you typically do with your pc?
[22:48] <tsimonq2> code, contribute to Ubuntu, ramble at people XD
[22:48] <tsimonq2> I don't game
[22:49] <tsimonq2> http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/ if you are interested ;)
[22:49] <Anthony-L_> oh, i'm surprised you don't game. i'm 31 and i game, i guess you're more mature than me. :P
[22:49] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: anyways, we have solved the problem, somebody soon is going to yell at us, so let's hop over to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[22:50] <Anthony-L_> oh sry. i can talk about more problems
[22:50] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L_: oh, well, go ahead XD
[22:51] <Anthony-L_> let me switch over to chrome and see if it's fluid. brb
[22:55] <Anthony-L> are you still here?
[22:55] <tsimonq2> Anthony-L: yes :)
[22:55] <tsimonq2> hold on getting pizza brb
[22:56] <tsimonq2> back
[22:56] <tsimonq2> okay
[22:56] <Anthony-L> i'm on chrome. it works.
[22:56] <tsimonq2> more problems? :)
[22:56] <tsimonq2> yay!
[22:56] <Anthony-L> let me check
[22:56] <Anthony-L> OH!
[22:56] <Anthony-L> should i be using the proprietary drivers?
[22:57] <tsimonq2> do you know the difference between proprietary and open source software?
[22:57] <Anthony-L> proprietary is the specific company making their own drivers.
[22:57] <Anthony-L> open source if free for all.
[22:57] <Anthony-L> correct?
[22:57] <tsimonq2> if you are against closed-source software, don't use it, but if you don't mind, go ahead
[22:58] <tsimonq2> correct :)
[22:58] <tsimonq2> typically you get more functionality with proprietary drivers
[22:58] <Anthony-L> i was just wondering if there was a problem using them.
[22:58] <tsimonq2> not unless you have a moral problem with them :)
[22:59] <tsimonq2> anything else?
[22:59] <Anthony-L> let me check