| Kilos | o/ | 05:34 |
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| MooDoo | howdy all | 11:18 |
| Kilos | hi MooDoo | 11:58 |
| belkinsa | PabloRubianes, can you join #belkinsa2. Kilos is talking to pavlushka, the person who has the LoCo issue? | 20:42 |
| Kilos | nhaines and other LC members are welcome to join in as well | 20:46 |
| belkinsa | !lococouncil | 20:46 |
| ubot5 | The LoCo Council is coolbhavi, PabloRubianes, nhaines, wxl, svij, and lunapersa - they are here to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at loco-council@lists.ubuntu.com | 20:46 |
| belkinsa | ^^ | 20:46 |
| Kilos | svij pull in | 20:47 |
| wxl | is this a private discussion in that it cannot be held here? | 20:47 |
| Kilos | its about loco issues wxl | 20:47 |
| belkinsa | I guess we can have it here. | 20:47 |
| Kilos | cool i dont mind | 20:48 |
| belkinsa | I invited him here | 20:48 |
| belkinsa | pavlushka, are you ready to talk about it? | 20:49 |
| pleia2 | submitted ticket 28223 to get the RSS feeds on loco.ubuntu.com fixed (they haven't updated since May 2015) | 20:49 |
| pleia2 | I've know about this for months, but I kind of wanted to see if anyone else noticed | 20:50 |
| pleia2 | as far as I can tell, no one did, and part of fixing LTP should likely be to remove them | 20:50 |
| pavlushka | Ready | 20:52 |
| belkinsa | pavlushka, can you tell us what is the issue again? | 20:53 |
| pavlushka | Sure, The issue is about getting a membership in my LoCo | 20:54 |
| pavlushka | and I knocked the Admin at our IRC channel but didnot get any reply. | 20:55 |
| wxl | it seems to me the LoCo is not very active. would you say that's true, pavlushka ? | 20:55 |
| belkinsa | It's seems that there are many who are still waiting to be approved and their leader, Russel John, isn't a welcoming person and seems to want to keep the LoCo closed-membership. | 20:56 |
| wxl | belkinsa: where do you get that impression from, specifically? | 20:56 |
| belkinsa | Kilos was the one who found out from pavlushka and passed it on to me. | 20:56 |
| pavlushka | I tried to join the Local translation team but as I've already applied for the BD team, it says you are already waiting for an approval in one of our team. | 20:57 |
| wxl | Kilos: do you have a record of that conversation? | 20:57 |
| belkinsa | And how long are you waiting? | 20:57 |
| Kilos | i have been on that channel since pavlushka applied for membership | 20:57 |
| wxl | Kilos: so the conversation happened in the channel? | 20:58 |
| Kilos | i have greeted daily and once russel said hi and no further comment | 20:58 |
| wxl | so russell has not stated his desire to keep the membership of the loco closed? | 20:58 |
| Kilos | i have tried to discuss things with him, but get no reply | 20:59 |
| pavlushka | Not more than a month but I checked that the team is not accepting any member since 2014 | 20:59 |
| pavlushka | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bd/+members#proposed | 20:59 |
| wxl | it sounds to me like the loco council needs to step in and ask him for his real intentions | 20:59 |
| Kilos | pavlushka can i ask some personal questions | 21:00 |
| pavlushka | Sure, go ahead. | 21:00 |
| Kilos | dont take offence but different parts of the world behave differently | 21:00 |
| pavlushka | Right. | 21:00 |
| Kilos | is the problem not perhaps political or religious | 21:00 |
| Kilos | as a rule ubuntu is for everyone | 21:01 |
| pavlushka | I dont think so. | 21:01 |
| Kilos | so locos should be the same | 21:01 |
| Kilos | i am just trying to find where the problem could be | 21:01 |
| belkinsa | Their mailing-list is inactive too. For example, pavlushka's call https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bd/2016-March/011965.html | 21:01 |
| pavlushka | because normally we are accepting everyone. | 21:02 |
| Kilos | seems strange to have over 300 members then stop approving new members | 21:02 |
| wxl | who would be the leader if we did not have russell? | 21:02 |
| belkinsa | Er https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bd/2016-February/011960.html | 21:02 |
| pavlushka | Russel is there somewhere, replied a personal mail of me. | 21:04 |
| wxl | i guess we need to find out what his intentions are | 21:04 |
| Kilos | wxl that is what we must work out | 21:04 |
| wxl | it could be that he does intend to control the membership and make it closed | 21:04 |
| wxl | that would be a case where we need to make a change | 21:04 |
| wxl | but for the loco to continue it needs some sort of leadership | 21:04 |
| wxl | it could also be the case that he's busy | 21:05 |
| wxl | or has moved on to other projects | 21:05 |
| Kilos | maybe yes | 21:05 |
| wxl | in which case, too, we still need someone to take the role of leader | 21:05 |
| belkinsa | pavlushka wants to try to reboot it. Maybe him? | 21:06 |
| pavlushka | belkinsa, means? | 21:06 |
| Kilos | once we know where or why russel has stopped things going then we can sort something out | 21:06 |
| belkinsa | You want to get your LoCo active again, right? | 21:06 |
| belkinsa | Kilos, +1 | 21:07 |
| pavlushka | Sure, that will be a joy. | 21:07 |
| wxl | exactly Kilos | 21:08 |
| wxl | pavlushka: question is do you want to be the person responsible for maintaining and organizing and administering the team? | 21:09 |
| pavlushka | wxl: By the way, I am so tensed, being you here, i didn't said Hi to you. | 21:10 |
| pavlushka | wxl: I am just an Ubuntu user, knows only the basic hacks to maintain my pc, You tell me,if I am eligible. | 21:11 |
| pavlushka | wxl: And then I \ll try my best to make upto | 21:12 |
| pavlushka | wxl: Like to add that I am not an expert in technical side, So what do you think, can I? | 21:14 |
| Kilos | we can help. we just need to hear what the issue is on russels side | 21:15 |
| Kilos | maybe he isnt even in the country anymore | 21:15 |
| pavlushka | Kilos: I'll forward an email of his to me, to you. | 21:16 |
| Kilos | i think he will have to grant admin rights to whoever takes over anyway | 21:16 |
| Kilos | send it to the lococouncil mail so all can see pavlushka | 21:17 |
| pavlushka | wxl: one thing is clear, I am not even the Member of the LoCo. | 21:17 |
| pavlushka | wxl: I am just subscribed to the mailing list. that's all. | 21:18 |
| belkinsa | Maybe you should simply introduce yourself to the list in proper terms and see if that can help. | 21:21 |
| pavlushka | belkinsa, Then I need to talk to you about that. | 21:22 |
| Kilos | this is from their lp page | 21:22 |
| Kilos | Policy: You must be a team member to subscribe to the team mailing list. | 21:22 |
| belkinsa | pavlushka, alright. | 21:22 |
| pavlushka | Kilos, then now they restricted even that. | 21:23 |
| pavlushka | Kilos, I am subscribed in 2011. | 21:25 |
| wxl | oops sorry client died and i had some visitors show up | 21:25 |
| Kilos | oh i see now 183 active members, i misread and said over 300 sorry | 21:25 |
| Kilos | np wxl things happen | 21:25 |
| wxl | i'm probably going to have to take off on a bit | 21:25 |
| wxl | pavlushka: hello by the way :) | 21:25 |
| wxl | pavlushka: and no worries. we are ALL just ubuntu users | 21:26 |
| wxl | pavlushka: many of us (ok, not me, but you get the idea) are non-technical | 21:26 |
| wxl | pavlushka: if you are capable of leading a team of people, organizing events, encouraging participation, then you can be a LoCo leader | 21:26 |
| wxl | pavlushka: the best person to talk to about that is probably Kilos as he has done a lot of hard work to bring the africa locos up to speed | 21:26 |
| pavlushka | wxl, that needs to be practiced. | 21:27 |
| Kilos | its simple | 21:27 |
| pavlushka | wxl, Have a nice day | 21:27 |
| Kilos | treat everyone as you would like to be treated | 21:27 |
| wxl | pretty much, yep | 21:27 |
| pavlushka | Kilos, I believe in that motto. | 21:28 |
| Kilos | its the only way | 21:28 |
| Kilos | after all ubuntu people are nice people | 21:28 |
| pavlushka | Kilos, \o/ | 21:29 |
| Kilos | everyone should be friends | 21:29 |
| belkinsa | +1 to the millionth | 21:29 |
| Kilos | wxl if you have to run ill join you and we continue this matter tomorrow maybe if all agree | 21:29 |
| Kilos | 30 mins to midnight here | 21:30 |
| wxl | sounds good Kilos | 21:30 |
| wxl | please everyone forward all information about this, including relavant conversations with russell, to the loco council | 21:30 |
| Kilos | thank you all for your time | 21:30 |
| wxl | we need to stay informed of what's going on | 21:30 |
| belkinsa | wxl, alright and thank you for your time | 21:31 |
| Kilos | will do ty | 21:31 |
| wxl | but ultimately you guys want what we want | 21:31 |
| wxl | we want loco teams to thrive and be successful | 21:31 |
| Kilos | +1 | 21:31 |
| Kilos | ty belkinsa we will see this through to a successful conclusion | 21:32 |
| belkinsa | Alright. | 21:32 |
| wxl | ty everyone for all your help | 21:32 |
| belkinsa | Not a problem. | 21:33 |
| pavlushka | TY | 21:33 |
| Kilos | night all, have a good day you daytime peeps | 21:33 |
| pavlushka | :) | 21:33 |
| wxl | night | 21:33 |
| pavlushka | Its 3.35 Am here. | 21:33 |
| Kilos | ouch | 21:33 |
| belkinsa | Nighht | 21:34 |
| pavlushka | belkinsa, we have an appointment, right. | 21:34 |
| belkinsa | With who? Russel or the LC? | 21:34 |
| pavlushka | with each other. | 21:35 |
| pavlushka | about | 21:35 |
| belkinsa | About what? | 21:36 |
| belkinsa | Oh, sorry. | 21:36 |
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