[05:34] o/ [11:18] howdy all [11:58] hi MooDoo [20:42] PabloRubianes, can you join #belkinsa2. Kilos is talking to pavlushka, the person who has the LoCo issue? [20:46] nhaines and other LC members are welcome to join in as well [20:46] !lococouncil [20:46] The LoCo Council is coolbhavi, PabloRubianes, nhaines, wxl, svij, and lunapersa - they are here to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at loco-council@lists.ubuntu.com [20:46] ^^ [20:47] svij pull in [20:47] is this a private discussion in that it cannot be held here? [20:47] its about loco issues wxl [20:47] I guess we can have it here. [20:48] cool i dont mind [20:48] I invited him here [20:49] pavlushka, are you ready to talk about it? [20:49] submitted ticket 28223 to get the RSS feeds on loco.ubuntu.com fixed (they haven't updated since May 2015) [20:50] I've know about this for months, but I kind of wanted to see if anyone else noticed [20:50] as far as I can tell, no one did, and part of fixing LTP should likely be to remove them [20:52] Ready [20:53] pavlushka, can you tell us what is the issue again? [20:54] Sure, The issue is about getting a membership in my LoCo [20:55] and I knocked the Admin at our IRC channel but didnot get any reply. [20:55] it seems to me the LoCo is not very active. would you say that's true, pavlushka ? [20:56] It's seems that there are many who are still waiting to be approved and their leader, Russel John, isn't a welcoming person and seems to want to keep the LoCo closed-membership. [20:56] belkinsa: where do you get that impression from, specifically? [20:56] Kilos was the one who found out from pavlushka and passed it on to me. [20:57] I tried to join the Local translation team but as I've already applied for the BD team, it says you are already waiting for an approval in one of our team. [20:57] Kilos: do you have a record of that conversation? [20:57] And how long are you waiting? [20:57] i have been on that channel since pavlushka applied for membership [20:58] Kilos: so the conversation happened in the channel? [20:58] i have greeted daily and once russel said hi and no further comment [20:58] so russell has not stated his desire to keep the membership of the loco closed? [20:59] i have tried to discuss things with him, but get no reply [20:59] Not more than a month but I checked that the team is not accepting any member since 2014 [20:59] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bd/+members#proposed [20:59] it sounds to me like the loco council needs to step in and ask him for his real intentions [21:00] pavlushka can i ask some personal questions [21:00] Sure, go ahead. [21:00] dont take offence but different parts of the world behave differently [21:00] Right. [21:00] is the problem not perhaps political or religious [21:01] as a rule ubuntu is for everyone [21:01] I dont think so. [21:01] so locos should be the same [21:01] i am just trying to find where the problem could be [21:01] Their mailing-list is inactive too. For example, pavlushka's call https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bd/2016-March/011965.html [21:02] because normally we are accepting everyone. [21:02] seems strange to have over 300 members then stop approving new members [21:02] who would be the leader if we did not have russell? [21:02] Er https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bd/2016-February/011960.html [21:04] Russel is there somewhere, replied a personal mail of me. [21:04] i guess we need to find out what his intentions are [21:04] wxl that is what we must work out [21:04] it could be that he does intend to control the membership and make it closed [21:04] that would be a case where we need to make a change [21:04] but for the loco to continue it needs some sort of leadership [21:05] it could also be the case that he's busy [21:05] or has moved on to other projects [21:05] maybe yes [21:05] in which case, too, we still need someone to take the role of leader [21:06] pavlushka wants to try to reboot it. Maybe him? [21:06] belkinsa, means? [21:06] once we know where or why russel has stopped things going then we can sort something out [21:06] You want to get your LoCo active again, right? [21:07] Kilos, +1 [21:07] Sure, that will be a joy. [21:08] exactly Kilos [21:09] pavlushka: question is do you want to be the person responsible for maintaining and organizing and administering the team? [21:10] wxl: By the way, I am so tensed, being you here, i didn't said Hi to you. [21:11] wxl: I am just an Ubuntu user, knows only the basic hacks to maintain my pc, You tell me,if I am eligible. [21:12] wxl: And then I \ll try my best to make upto [21:14] wxl: Like to add that I am not an expert in technical side, So what do you think, can I? [21:15] we can help. we just need to hear what the issue is on russels side [21:15] maybe he isnt even in the country anymore [21:16] Kilos: I'll forward an email of his to me, to you. [21:16] i think he will have to grant admin rights to whoever takes over anyway [21:17] send it to the lococouncil mail so all can see pavlushka [21:17] wxl: one thing is clear, I am not even the Member of the LoCo. [21:18] wxl: I am just subscribed to the mailing list. that's all. [21:21] Maybe you should simply introduce yourself to the list in proper terms and see if that can help. [21:22] belkinsa, Then I need to talk to you about that. [21:22] this is from their lp page [21:22] Policy: You must be a team member to subscribe to the team mailing list. [21:22] pavlushka, alright. [21:23] Kilos, then now they restricted even that. [21:25] Kilos, I am subscribed in 2011. [21:25] oops sorry client died and i had some visitors show up [21:25] oh i see now 183 active members, i misread and said over 300 sorry [21:25] np wxl things happen [21:25] i'm probably going to have to take off on a bit [21:25] pavlushka: hello by the way :) [21:26] pavlushka: and no worries. we are ALL just ubuntu users [21:26] pavlushka: many of us (ok, not me, but you get the idea) are non-technical [21:26] pavlushka: if you are capable of leading a team of people, organizing events, encouraging participation, then you can be a LoCo leader [21:26] pavlushka: the best person to talk to about that is probably Kilos as he has done a lot of hard work to bring the africa locos up to speed [21:27] wxl, that needs to be practiced. [21:27] its simple [21:27] wxl, Have a nice day [21:27] treat everyone as you would like to be treated [21:27] pretty much, yep [21:28] Kilos, I believe in that motto. [21:28] its the only way [21:28] after all ubuntu people are nice people [21:29] Kilos, \o/ [21:29] everyone should be friends [21:29] +1 to the millionth [21:29] wxl if you have to run ill join you and we continue this matter tomorrow maybe if all agree [21:30] 30 mins to midnight here [21:30] sounds good Kilos [21:30] please everyone forward all information about this, including relavant conversations with russell, to the loco council [21:30] thank you all for your time [21:30] we need to stay informed of what's going on [21:31] wxl, alright and thank you for your time [21:31] will do ty [21:31] but ultimately you guys want what we want [21:31] we want loco teams to thrive and be successful [21:31] +1 [21:32] ty belkinsa we will see this through to a successful conclusion [21:32] Alright. [21:32] ty everyone for all your help [21:33] Not a problem. [21:33] TY [21:33] night all, have a good day you daytime peeps [21:33] :) [21:33] night [21:33] Its 3.35 Am here. [21:33] ouch [21:34] Nighht [21:34] belkinsa, we have an appointment, right. [21:34] With who? Russel or the LC? [21:35] with each other. [21:35] about [21:36] About what? [21:36] Oh, sorry.