| squish102 | lucky, found 2 1tb drives, so i'm rebuilding array now. stupid machine only had 4 sata ports, so had to slap in a pci sata card | 00:31 |
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| Kilos | morning everyone | 05:34 |
| === Scorpion is now known as Guest72875 | ||
| Wolfeyes | morning everyone | 07:22 |
| Kilos | hi Wolfeyes | 07:22 |
| Kilos | did you see the info chesedo left for you | 07:23 |
| Wolfeyes | No I didn't Kilos | 07:25 |
| Kilos | sec | 07:25 |
| Kilos | <chesedo> allocation sound like dchp mode was on... | 07:25 |
| Kilos | [Saturday 05 March 2016] [20:01:43] <chesedo> so take it that your external is off | 07:25 |
| Kilos | [Saturday 05 March 2016] [20:02:03] <chesedo> but clients can still reach the server | 07:25 |
| Kilos | [Saturday 05 March 2016] [20:02:33] <chesedo> *? if true then that might help you | 07:25 |
| Wolfeyes | ty Kilos | 07:27 |
| Kilos | yw | 07:29 |
| Wolfeyes | it wouldn't connect with static again, so changed it to dhcp, and it still wouldn't connect. somthing about the p3p1 wasn't configured again. | 07:29 |
| Kilos | is all this hassle because of 2 network cards | 07:36 |
| Wolfeyes | it seems because the network cards don't stay connected - or configured | 07:38 |
| Wolfeyes | one is an onboard network card, and the other is a plugin | 07:38 |
| Kilos | i wonder if you can do the same thing with only one card | 07:38 |
| Wolfeyes | how do you do that when the networks must be split ? | 07:42 |
| Kilos | the guys will know | 07:43 |
| Kilos | youll have to just wait and try get those two to stay connected then they will be happy too | 07:43 |
| Kilos | there must be a way to make the server decide who can do what with only one card as well | 07:44 |
| Kilos | Wolfeyes read what these say. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2274063 | 07:59 |
| Kilos | maybe an idea there | 07:59 |
| Kilos | i only see eth stuff none of the new name for it | 08:14 |
| Kilos | hi iqbal | 08:17 |
| iqbal | hi Kilos | 08:17 |
| iqbal | how's it going | 08:17 |
| Kilos | ok ty and you | 08:21 |
| iqbal | good | 08:28 |
| iqbal | thanks | 08:28 |
| Wolfeyes | ty will do, just going out | 08:37 |
| Kilos | ok | 08:37 |
| superfly | Good evening | 10:30 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly hows things there | 10:31 |
| superfly | Nice warm day. Chicken on the braai. | 10:32 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 10:32 |
| superfly | Kilos: en met oom? | 10:32 |
| Kilos | goed dankie | 10:32 |
| superfly | *yawn* | 10:33 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:34 |
| Kilos | not even lunch time yet | 10:34 |
| superfly | Ons was vroeg vanoggend wakker. | 10:34 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:34 |
| Kilos | jy moet zak leer om te braai dan kan jy bietjie slaap in kry | 10:35 |
| superfly | Kerk is 9-uur, ek moet daar wees op 8-uur, dis moet ons 7-uur opstaan | 10:35 |
| superfly | *dus | 10:36 |
| Kilos | ja | 10:36 |
| Kilos | en jy het seker na middernag eers gaan slaap | 10:36 |
| Wolfeyes | lol | 10:39 |
| Wolfeyes | hey superfly | 10:39 |
| superfly | Hi Wolfeyes | 10:45 |
| Kilos | wb Rynomster | 10:59 |
| Rynomster | hey Kilos | 11:01 |
| Rynomster | thanks :) | 11:01 |
| Rynomster | having difficilty with my internet today :( | 11:01 |
| Kilos | thats life when you have to rely on someone else to supply quality service | 11:02 |
| Kilos | ha Xsm its working | 11:02 |
| Kilos | ?? | 11:02 |
| Xsm | yeah, now to try with the firewall again | 11:03 |
| Kilos | so its the firewall not setup right then | 11:04 |
| Xsm | Okay firewall is running, now to add things in it again. | 11:04 |
| Kilos | wb | 11:09 |
| Kilos | dont break it again | 11:09 |
| Xsm | lol it's not about breaking it, I need to adjust things to get the computers to work on the internal | 11:09 |
| Xsm | superfly: when working on a firewall must you allow the ip addresses on that computer the firewall is working from as well? | 11:11 |
| Kilos | try it | 11:22 |
| Kilos | just keep record of what you change | 11:23 |
| Wolfeyes | everytime I restart it stops seeing the p3p1 network card | 11:35 |
| Wolfeyes | or port because it is built into the mb | 11:35 |
| Kilos | wb | 11:58 |
| Kilos | and thats the one it should have less hassles seeing | 11:59 |
| Kilos | ai! | 11:59 |
| superfly | Wolfeyes: are you using Arno's? | 12:05 |
| Kilos | im sure he is | 12:06 |
| Kilos | Xsm speak up | 12:07 |
| Kilos | i need a nap | 12:07 |
| Kilos | hi pavlushka welcome to ubuntu-za | 12:09 |
| Kilos | go see our site https://ubuntu-za.org | 12:10 |
| Kilos | i need an old man nap so make a noise quietly | 12:11 |
| pavlushka | Ok | 12:14 |
| pavlushka | Kilos: thanks | 12:14 |
| Xsm | lol @ that | 12:14 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:14 |
| Xsm | hey pavlushka | 12:14 |
| Kilos | this is my home | 12:14 |
| Xsm | now why did it connect now | 12:15 |
| Xsm | I was just looking at files, not even editing them | 12:15 |
| Kilos | Xsm the fly asked you if you using arno | 12:15 |
| Kilos | the other you | 12:15 |
| Xsm | yes superfly I'm sorry I didn't even see it was connected again | 12:16 |
| Xsm | Yes I am using arnos or trying to get it to a put of working. | 12:16 |
| Xsm | point of working | 12:16 |
| Kilos | ok i nap ow | 12:16 |
| Kilos | now | 12:16 |
| Xsm | okay | 12:17 |
| Xsm | put your computer on silent so we don't distrurb you Kilos | 12:17 |
| superfly | Xsm: sometimes the firewall starts up before the networking. Arno's has a way to deal with this, I think you use a + in the place of the number that changes | 12:17 |
| Xsm | :-P | 12:17 |
| superfly | Xsm: or, you can set the IP address to fixed | 12:17 |
| Xsm | How do you mean superfly, the number? Do you mean like an ip number? | 12:18 |
| Xsm | I want the ip address fixed. | 12:18 |
| superfly | Xsm: that's pretty easy actually, but because you installed KDE, I fear we'll have to deal with network manager, or at least work around it | 12:19 |
| superfly | Xsm: what is the range of IP addresses that the router hands out? | 12:19 |
| Xsm | I have uninstalled network-manager | 12:20 |
| Xsm | I am trying to do it with cli | 12:20 |
| Xsm | 192.168.1.1 | 12:21 |
| Xsm | the only reason I installed the kde desktop display over the server is so that I can talk to people on ubuntu-za through irc superfly, I don't know how or if that is even possible through the cli window alone. | 12:24 |
| superfly | Xsm: no, not the router's IP address, the RANGE of addresses it hands out via DHCP | 12:24 |
| Xsm | how would I find that out? | 12:25 |
| superfly | Xsm: don't work on the server, work on your computer, SSH into the server | 12:25 |
| superfly | Xsm: by looking at the router config | 12:25 |
| Xsm | well I am trying to get the network cards configured so I can ssh to it superfly | 12:26 |
| Xsm | secondly I need the ssh to work to have internet to the 2nd computer or I have to disconnect to be able to talk to everyone | 12:27 |
| Xsm | superfly: last night when I was kicked out by the router from both computers, I disabled the dhcp server on the router to be able to connect to the internet again. | 12:31 |
| Xsm | The i could connect again, superfly. | 12:31 |
| Xsm | then* | 12:31 |
| Xsm | All the nights before that is was 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.254 superfly | 12:33 |
| Xsm | current interfaces file http://bin.snyman.info/mmmy7ua6 | 12:36 |
| superfly | Xsm: then I recommend you log into the router and change it to 192.168.100 - 192.168.1.200. Or just disable it if you don't have anything else plugged into it. | 12:37 |
| superfly | Xsm: ah, that would be at least one of your problems. | 12:37 |
| superfly | Xsm: you can't have both your router <-> firewall and firewall <-> network set to 192.168.1.* | 12:38 |
| Xsm | great so one less problem. it is disabled. | 12:38 |
| superfly | Xsm: make your internal network something like 10.0.0.* | 12:39 |
| Xsm | superfly: I see, that makes sense. So the firewall and router were trying to create the same ip. | 12:39 |
| Xsm | superfly: okay hold on please and excuse my ignorance, but where do I change that now? Interfaces (the outgoing network card) (the incoming network card) or , the firewall ? | 12:41 |
| Xsm | I am thinking the outgoing network card to the internal computers, in interfaces - I'm I correct? | 12:42 |
| superfly | Xsm: you need to change the p5p1 address to something like 10.0.0.1, and then the DHCP server running on your firewall to hand out a range of 10.0.0.100 to 10.0.0.240 | 12:42 |
| Xsm | In my case p5p1 | 12:42 |
| Xsm | okay great | 12:42 |
| superfly | and make sure the DHCP server is serving from p5p1 as well | 12:42 |
| Xsm | reads very carefully and goes to work | 12:44 |
| Xsm | superfly: http://bin.snyman.info/mmm76rtn | 12:47 |
| Xsm | reads again, you said change the ip of p5p1 to an ip, but then make sure it is running, mmmm | 12:48 |
| superfly | Xsm: I said change the IP of p5p1 | 12:49 |
| superfly | Xsm: I said make sure DHCP is listening on p5p1 | 12:49 |
| Xsm | does the gw stay the same as p3p1? | 12:50 |
| superfly | IIRC the gateway should be p3p1's IP address | 12:51 |
| superfly | Xsm: this is what your network topology should look like: http://bin.snyman.info/mmmbuhvc | 12:51 |
| Xsm | superfly: okay ty that makes a lot more sense. | 12:52 |
| Xsm | superfly: http://bin.snyman.info/mmmc2kc8 | 12:56 |
| superfly | Xsm: actually, I don't think you need that gateway address | 12:56 |
| Xsm | Must I remove it? | 12:56 |
| superfly | yes, Arno's will handle the forwarding for you | 12:56 |
| Xsm | okay | 12:57 |
| Xsm | dns as well? | 12:57 |
| Xsm | superfly: restarting the network - | 12:58 |
| superfly | no, Arno's doesn't do dns | 12:58 |
| Xsm | Ah okay | 12:58 |
| Xsm | I read up it should get it form the first network device automatically, but not sure. | 12:59 |
| Xsm | superfly: http://bin.snyman.info/mmm2wq8d | 13:00 |
| Xsm | restarting network | 13:01 |
| Xsm | http://bin.snyman.info/mmm5pzya | 13:03 |
| Xsm | http://bin.snyman.info/mmm2j92s | 13:04 |
| Xsm | rebooting | 13:04 |
| Xsm | Yay it's still connected. | 13:07 |
| Xsm | How do I make the dhcp to listen to p5p1 superfly? I been googling to get that and got this, http://bin.snyman.info/mmmnu2ey | 13:19 |
| superfly | Xsm: you need a DHCP server, not try to make p5p1 into a DHCP client | 13:20 |
| Xsm | superfly: how do I do that? | 13:21 |
| superfly | sudo apt-get install dhcp-server | 13:21 |
| Xsm | ty | 13:21 |
| superfly | it might be called dhcp3-server | 13:23 |
| superfly | Maaz: google how to set up a dhcp server on Ubuntu | 13:23 |
| Maaz | superfly: "isc-dhcp-server - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu ..." https://help.ubuntu.com/community/isc-dhcp-server :: "dhcp3-server - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server :: "How do I install and configure a DHCP server? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/140126/how-do-i-install-and- | 13:23 |
| Maaz | configure-a-dhcp-server :: "How To Install DHCP Server In CentOS And Ubuntu | Unixmen" http:… | 13:23 |
| Xsm | so it is ty | 13:24 |
| Xsm | Goes to read. | 13:25 |
| Kilos | wow so much scrollback | 14:08 |
| Kilos | ty for guiding superfly | 14:08 |
| Xsm | Yeah you missed a lot :-) | 14:09 |
| Kilos | see the fly is the when all else fails man | 14:10 |
| Kilos | we are blessed to have him with us | 14:11 |
| pavlushka | Xsm: please respond, I have other works to do, I am still here only bcoz of you. | 14:15 |
| Kilos | pavlushka carry on with other work | 14:16 |
| pavlushka | Kilos: no no, when I take on, I try to complete it. | 14:17 |
| Kilos | he sometimes gets called away or gets busy and forgets there is a chat going | 14:17 |
| pavlushka | gotta go , see ya. | 14:22 |
| Kilos | cheers | 14:22 |
| Kilos | ty for helping | 14:22 |
| Xsm | Yeah I got called by people here. | 14:30 |
| Xsm | ty Kilos | 14:31 |
| squish102 | any prefered backup software? today I am using rsync over ssh to make a snapshot of my tv/movies collection | 14:54 |
| squish102 | sshd takes 95% of the cpu, doing it that way :( | 14:55 |
| MaNI | what terrible cpu do you have? | 15:15 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:15 |
| squish102 | dunno, it is some amd dual core: AMD Athlon(tm) 5000 Dual-Core Processor | 15:23 |
| pavlushka_ | Hi | 15:24 |
| Kilos | hi pavlushka_ | 15:24 |
| pavlushka_ | Using the phone being away from the pc. | 15:25 |
| Kilos | oh my | 15:25 |
| Kilos | when you get back see messages | 15:25 |
| pavlushka_ | Kilos: hi | 15:25 |
| Xsm | superfly: http://bin.snyman.info/mmmwhgz8 | 15:27 |
| Xsm | I am not sure if I have done that correctly, but I tried. | 15:30 |
| Xsm | is there a reason it would choose a "isc-dhcp-server" over a "dhcp3-server"? | 15:47 |
| Xsm | Maybe this is a better one, http://bin.snyman.info/mmm72cqp I had to redo the dhcpd.conf in the /etc/dhcp/ path and not the /etc/dhcp3/ it wouldn't install the dhcp3 and chose the dhcp-server on it's own. | 15:56 |
| Kilos | you learning lots fast hey | 15:56 |
| Xsm | to much | 15:57 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:57 |
| Kilos | onceit is working, thren in spare time review everything | 15:57 |
| Xsm | been a little overwhelming - and even though at times I am getting frustrated, I am enjoying it. | 15:57 |
| Xsm | When I done with this I will make another one from scratch for the home network. | 15:58 |
| Xsm | Only troubles is time is against me now. | 15:59 |
| Xsm | the dhcp server should only be for the external network card. So I am thinking everything should still be able to reconnect when I reboot, because the client will go crazy if they have to reboot and nothing connects. | 16:02 |
| Kilos | wb | 16:04 |
| Xsm | ty | 16:04 |
| Xsm | I am making progress | 16:04 |
| Kilos | yay | 16:04 |
| Xsm | I changed that file again, http://bin.snyman.info/mmmm4g58 the "option netbios-name-servers" are what links to the internal computers, and that would be, I am guessing p5p1=10.0.0.1. | 16:17 |
| Xsm | all windows computers | 16:18 |
| Xsm | Thinking I need to change arnos firewall to the internal ip address as well. | 16:19 |
| squish102 | hmm, when backing up, you realize that a 1Gb network connection is not fast enough | 16:32 |
| superfly | Xsm: are you running a netbios nameserver? | 17:38 |
| superfly | Xsm: are you running a DNS server on the firewall? | 17:38 |
| superfly | Xsm: are you running an NTP server on the firewall? | 17:38 |
| Xsm | superfly: when I read the article, that is what they had in the article, and they stated for netbios server for windows computers connecting to the internal network, I do not know if these and the others are needed within that setup you showed me. | 17:47 |
| Xsm | Some of the internal computers will need to connect to a mail server and 1 or 2 websites on the net, and the management computers will have full access to the net. (This is how they have requested it.) | 17:51 |
| Kilos | sjoe major work, that kinda network setup | 17:52 |
| magespawn | good evening | 20:02 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 20:04 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 20:05 |
| magespawn | any news from Wolfeyes/ | 20:05 |
| magespawn | ? | 20:06 |
| Kilos | fly gave him some stuff to try out | 20:06 |
| Kilos | other stuff to do like install a dhcp server on the server | 20:06 |
| magespawn | you would need that, the server has to become a router | 20:07 |
| Kilos | last ian posted was http://bin.snyman.info/mmmm4g58 | 20:07 |
| Kilos | dont know anymore he has gone quiet | 20:08 |
| magespawn | the broadcast address is usually 10.0.0.255 | 20:09 |
| Kilos | Maaz tell wolfeyes broadcast address is usually 10.0.0.255 | 20:10 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Got it, I'll tell Wolfeyes on freenode | 20:10 |
| magespawn | i do not know what will happen if you set it as .254 | 20:10 |
| Kilos | thre fly gave him some links to follow instructions | 20:11 |
| magespawn | cool beans | 20:12 |
| magespawn | do you have them, the links? | 20:13 |
| superfly | <superfly> Maaz: google how to set up a dhcp server on Ubuntu | 20:18 |
| superfly | <Maaz> superfly: "isc-dhcp-server - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu ..." https://help.ubuntu.com/community/isc-dhcp-server :: "dhcp3-server - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server :: "How do I install and configure a DHCP server? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/140126/how-do-i-install-and- | 20:18 |
| superfly | <Maaz> configure-a-dhcp-server :: "How To Install DHCP Server In CentOS And Ubuntu | Unixmen" http:… | 20:18 |
| magespawn | ta superfly | 20:18 |
| magespawn | i forget about things sometimes | 20:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:25 |
| Kilos | i forget about things all the time | 20:25 |
| * tumbleweed waves to Kilos | 20:25 | |
| Kilos | hi there tumbleweed hows things there | 20:26 |
| Kilos | where are you now | 20:26 |
| tumbleweed | I'm in snowy Boston for the weekend | 20:27 |
| tumbleweed | well, it's sunny, so all the snow is melting | 20:27 |
| tumbleweed | but it was snowing lightly for the last few days | 20:27 |
| tumbleweed | nice lazy sunday afternoon :) | 20:27 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 20:28 |
| Kilos | you have become a real globe trotter | 20:28 |
| tumbleweed | yep, I quite enjoy this life | 20:29 |
| Kilos | good, being happy in your job makes it all worth while | 20:29 |
| tumbleweed | I make the job work for me :P (but my travel is mostly condoned by work, rather than required by it) | 20:31 |
| Kilos | good if someone else pays the travel costs | 20:32 |
| Kilos | flying is expensive | 20:32 |
| tumbleweed | I wish :P but it works out reasonably. US salaries help a lot :P | 20:33 |
| Kilos | oh yes | 20:33 |
| magespawn | ahh well, it is rare that you get to have your cake and eat it | 20:34 |
| Kilos | haha | 20:35 |
| tumbleweed | quite | 20:37 |
| Kilos | as long as you stay well and happy in your job tumbleweed | 20:38 |
| Kilos | thats all that matters | 20:38 |
| Kilos | and dont foresake us of course | 20:39 |
| tumbleweed | I'll be back soon - debconf in Cape Town :) | 20:39 |
| Kilos | yeah july | 20:40 |
| Kilos | i wish it was over, kept fly too busy for too long | 20:40 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, I need to be working on that stuff, too, now | 20:41 |
| tumbleweed | the website needs work for registration... | 20:41 |
| magespawn | you can ask here, i am sure there would be people who could pitch in | 20:41 |
| tumbleweed | yep, I'm sure we'll be doing more of that... | 20:43 |
| magespawn | bed time for me, good night all | 20:59 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 21:34 |
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