[00:31] lucky, found 2 1tb drives, so i'm rebuilding array now. stupid machine only had 4 sata ports, so had to slap in a pci sata card [05:34] morning everyone === Scorpion is now known as Guest72875 [07:22] morning everyone [07:22] hi Wolfeyes [07:23] did you see the info chesedo left for you [07:25] No I didn't Kilos [07:25] sec [07:25] allocation sound like dchp mode was on... [07:25] [Saturday 05 March 2016] [20:01:43] so take it that your external is off [07:25] [Saturday 05 March 2016] [20:02:03] but clients can still reach the server [07:25] [Saturday 05 March 2016] [20:02:33] *? if true then that might help you [07:27] ty Kilos [07:29] yw [07:29] it wouldn't connect with static again, so changed it to dhcp, and it still wouldn't connect. somthing about the p3p1 wasn't configured again. [07:36] is all this hassle because of 2 network cards [07:38] it seems because the network cards don't stay connected - or configured [07:38] one is an onboard network card, and the other is a plugin [07:38] i wonder if you can do the same thing with only one card [07:42] how do you do that when the networks must be split ? [07:43] the guys will know [07:43] youll have to just wait and try get those two to stay connected then they will be happy too [07:44] there must be a way to make the server decide who can do what with only one card as well [07:59] Wolfeyes read what these say. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2274063 [07:59] maybe an idea there [08:14] i only see eth stuff none of the new name for it [08:17] hi iqbal [08:17] hi Kilos [08:17] how's it going [08:21] ok ty and you [08:28] good [08:28] thanks [08:37] ty will do, just going out [08:37] ok [10:30] Good evening [10:31] ohi superfly hows things there [10:32] Nice warm day. Chicken on the braai. [10:32] enjoy [10:32] Kilos: en met oom? [10:32] goed dankie [10:33] *yawn* [10:34] ai! [10:34] not even lunch time yet [10:34] Ons was vroeg vanoggend wakker. [10:34] ai! [10:35] jy moet zak leer om te braai dan kan jy bietjie slaap in kry [10:35] Kerk is 9-uur, ek moet daar wees op 8-uur, dis moet ons 7-uur opstaan [10:36] *dus [10:36] ja [10:36] en jy het seker na middernag eers gaan slaap [10:39] lol [10:39] hey superfly [10:45] Hi Wolfeyes [10:59] wb Rynomster [11:01] hey Kilos [11:01] thanks :) [11:01] having difficilty with my internet today :( [11:02] thats life when you have to rely on someone else to supply quality service [11:02] ha Xsm its working [11:02] ?? [11:03] yeah, now to try with the firewall again [11:04] so its the firewall not setup right then [11:04] Okay firewall is running, now to add things in it again. [11:09] wb [11:09] dont break it again [11:09] lol it's not about breaking it, I need to adjust things to get the computers to work on the internal [11:11] superfly: when working on a firewall must you allow the ip addresses on that computer the firewall is working from as well? [11:22] try it [11:23] just keep record of what you change [11:35] everytime I restart it stops seeing the p3p1 network card [11:35] or port because it is built into the mb [11:58] wb [11:59] and thats the one it should have less hassles seeing [11:59] ai! [12:05] Wolfeyes: are you using Arno's? [12:06] im sure he is [12:07] Xsm speak up [12:07] i need a nap [12:09] hi pavlushka welcome to ubuntu-za [12:10] go see our site https://ubuntu-za.org [12:11] i need an old man nap so make a noise quietly [12:14] Ok [12:14] Kilos: thanks [12:14] lol @ that [12:14] lol [12:14] hey pavlushka [12:14] this is my home [12:15] now why did it connect now [12:15] I was just looking at files, not even editing them [12:15] Xsm the fly asked you if you using arno [12:15] the other you [12:16] yes superfly I'm sorry I didn't even see it was connected again [12:16] Yes I am using arnos or trying to get it to a put of working. [12:16] point of working [12:16] ok i nap ow [12:16] now [12:17] okay [12:17] put your computer on silent so we don't distrurb you Kilos [12:17] Xsm: sometimes the firewall starts up before the networking. Arno's has a way to deal with this, I think you use a + in the place of the number that changes [12:17] :-P [12:17] Xsm: or, you can set the IP address to fixed [12:18] How do you mean superfly, the number? Do you mean like an ip number? [12:18] I want the ip address fixed. [12:19] Xsm: that's pretty easy actually, but because you installed KDE, I fear we'll have to deal with network manager, or at least work around it [12:19] Xsm: what is the range of IP addresses that the router hands out? [12:20] I have uninstalled network-manager [12:20] I am trying to do it with cli [12:21] 192.168.1.1 [12:24] the only reason I installed the kde desktop display over the server is so that I can talk to people on ubuntu-za through irc superfly, I don't know how or if that is even possible through the cli window alone. [12:24] Xsm: no, not the router's IP address, the RANGE of addresses it hands out via DHCP [12:25] how would I find that out? [12:25] Xsm: don't work on the server, work on your computer, SSH into the server [12:25] Xsm: by looking at the router config [12:26] well I am trying to get the network cards configured so I can ssh to it superfly [12:27] secondly I need the ssh to work to have internet to the 2nd computer or I have to disconnect to be able to talk to everyone [12:31] superfly: last night when I was kicked out by the router from both computers, I disabled the dhcp server on the router to be able to connect to the internet again. [12:31] The i could connect again, superfly. [12:31] then* [12:33] All the nights before that is was 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.254 superfly [12:36] current interfaces file http://bin.snyman.info/mmmy7ua6 [12:37] Xsm: then I recommend you log into the router and change it to 192.168.100 - 192.168.1.200. Or just disable it if you don't have anything else plugged into it. [12:37] Xsm: ah, that would be at least one of your problems. [12:38] Xsm: you can't have both your router <-> firewall and firewall <-> network set to 192.168.1.* [12:38] great so one less problem. it is disabled. [12:39] Xsm: make your internal network something like 10.0.0.* [12:39] superfly: I see, that makes sense. So the firewall and router were trying to create the same ip. [12:41] superfly: okay hold on please and excuse my ignorance, but where do I change that now? Interfaces (the outgoing network card) (the incoming network card) or , the firewall ? [12:42] I am thinking the outgoing network card to the internal computers, in interfaces - I'm I correct? [12:42] Xsm: you need to change the p5p1 address to something like 10.0.0.1, and then the DHCP server running on your firewall to hand out a range of 10.0.0.100 to 10.0.0.240 [12:42] In my case p5p1 [12:42] okay great [12:42] and make sure the DHCP server is serving from p5p1 as well [12:44] reads very carefully and goes to work [12:47] superfly: http://bin.snyman.info/mmm76rtn [12:48] reads again, you said change the ip of p5p1 to an ip, but then make sure it is running, mmmm [12:49] Xsm: I said change the IP of p5p1 [12:49] Xsm: I said make sure DHCP is listening on p5p1 [12:50] does the gw stay the same as p3p1? [12:51] IIRC the gateway should be p3p1's IP address [12:51] Xsm: this is what your network topology should look like: http://bin.snyman.info/mmmbuhvc [12:52] superfly: okay ty that makes a lot more sense. [12:56] superfly: http://bin.snyman.info/mmmc2kc8 [12:56] Xsm: actually, I don't think you need that gateway address [12:56] Must I remove it? [12:56] yes, Arno's will handle the forwarding for you [12:57] okay [12:57] dns as well? [12:58] superfly: restarting the network - [12:58] no, Arno's doesn't do dns [12:58] Ah okay [12:59] I read up it should get it form the first network device automatically, but not sure. [13:00] superfly: http://bin.snyman.info/mmm2wq8d [13:01] restarting network [13:03] http://bin.snyman.info/mmm5pzya [13:04] http://bin.snyman.info/mmm2j92s [13:04] rebooting [13:07] Yay it's still connected. [13:19] How do I make the dhcp to listen to p5p1 superfly? I been googling to get that and got this, http://bin.snyman.info/mmmnu2ey [13:20] Xsm: you need a DHCP server, not try to make p5p1 into a DHCP client [13:21] superfly: how do I do that? [13:21] sudo apt-get install dhcp-server [13:21] ty [13:23] it might be called dhcp3-server [13:23] Maaz: google how to set up a dhcp server on Ubuntu [13:23] superfly: "isc-dhcp-server - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu ..." https://help.ubuntu.com/community/isc-dhcp-server :: "dhcp3-server - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server :: "How do I install and configure a DHCP server? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/140126/how-do-i-install-and- [13:23] configure-a-dhcp-server :: "How To Install DHCP Server In CentOS And Ubuntu | Unixmen" http:… [13:24] so it is ty [13:25] Goes to read. [14:08] wow so much scrollback [14:08] ty for guiding superfly [14:09] Yeah you missed a lot :-) [14:10] see the fly is the when all else fails man [14:11] we are blessed to have him with us [14:15] Xsm: please respond, I have other works to do, I am still here only bcoz of you. [14:16] pavlushka carry on with other work [14:17] Kilos: no no, when I take on, I try to complete it. [14:17] he sometimes gets called away or gets busy and forgets there is a chat going [14:22] gotta go , see ya. [14:22] cheers [14:22] ty for helping [14:30] Yeah I got called by people here. [14:31] ty Kilos [14:54] any prefered backup software? today I am using rsync over ssh to make a snapshot of my tv/movies collection [14:55] sshd takes 95% of the cpu, doing it that way :( [15:15] what terrible cpu do you have? [15:15] lol [15:23] dunno, it is some amd dual core: AMD Athlon(tm) 5000 Dual-Core Processor [15:24] Hi [15:24] hi pavlushka_ [15:25] Using the phone being away from the pc. [15:25] oh my [15:25] when you get back see messages [15:25] Kilos: hi [15:27] superfly: http://bin.snyman.info/mmmwhgz8 [15:30] I am not sure if I have done that correctly, but I tried. [15:47] is there a reason it would choose a "isc-dhcp-server" over a "dhcp3-server"? [15:56] Maybe this is a better one, http://bin.snyman.info/mmm72cqp I had to redo the dhcpd.conf in the /etc/dhcp/ path and not the /etc/dhcp3/ it wouldn't install the dhcp3 and chose the dhcp-server on it's own. [15:56] you learning lots fast hey [15:57] to much [15:57] lol [15:57] onceit is working, thren in spare time review everything [15:57] been a little overwhelming - and even though at times I am getting frustrated, I am enjoying it. [15:58] When I done with this I will make another one from scratch for the home network. [15:59] Only troubles is time is against me now. [16:02] the dhcp server should only be for the external network card. So I am thinking everything should still be able to reconnect when I reboot, because the client will go crazy if they have to reboot and nothing connects. [16:04] wb [16:04] ty [16:04] I am making progress [16:04] yay [16:17] I changed that file again, http://bin.snyman.info/mmmm4g58 the "option netbios-name-servers" are what links to the internal computers, and that would be, I am guessing p5p1=10.0.0.1. [16:18] all windows computers [16:19] Thinking I need to change arnos firewall to the internal ip address as well. [16:32] hmm, when backing up, you realize that a 1Gb network connection is not fast enough [17:38] Xsm: are you running a netbios nameserver? [17:38] Xsm: are you running a DNS server on the firewall? [17:38] Xsm: are you running an NTP server on the firewall? [17:47] superfly: when I read the article, that is what they had in the article, and they stated for netbios server for windows computers connecting to the internal network, I do not know if these and the others are needed within that setup you showed me. [17:51] Some of the internal computers will need to connect to a mail server and 1 or 2 websites on the net, and the management computers will have full access to the net. (This is how they have requested it.) [17:52] sjoe major work, that kinda network setup [20:02] good evening [20:04] hey Kilos [20:05] hi magespawn [20:05] any news from Wolfeyes/ [20:06] ? [20:06] fly gave him some stuff to try out [20:06] other stuff to do like install a dhcp server on the server [20:07] you would need that, the server has to become a router [20:07] last ian posted was http://bin.snyman.info/mmmm4g58 [20:08] dont know anymore he has gone quiet [20:09] the broadcast address is usually 10.0.0.255 [20:10] Maaz tell wolfeyes broadcast address is usually 10.0.0.255 [20:10] Kilos: Got it, I'll tell Wolfeyes on freenode [20:10] i do not know what will happen if you set it as .254 [20:11] thre fly gave him some links to follow instructions [20:12] cool beans [20:13] do you have them, the links? [20:18] Maaz: google how to set up a dhcp server on Ubuntu [20:18] superfly: "isc-dhcp-server - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu ..." https://help.ubuntu.com/community/isc-dhcp-server :: "dhcp3-server - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server :: "How do I install and configure a DHCP server? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/140126/how-do-i-install-and- [20:18] configure-a-dhcp-server :: "How To Install DHCP Server In CentOS And Ubuntu | Unixmen" http:… [20:18] ta superfly [20:22] i forget about things sometimes [20:25] lol [20:25] i forget about things all the time [20:25] * tumbleweed waves to Kilos [20:26] hi there tumbleweed hows things there [20:26] where are you now [20:27] I'm in snowy Boston for the weekend [20:27] well, it's sunny, so all the snow is melting [20:27] but it was snowing lightly for the last few days [20:27] nice lazy sunday afternoon :) [20:28] enjoy [20:28] you have become a real globe trotter [20:29] yep, I quite enjoy this life [20:29] good, being happy in your job makes it all worth while [20:31] I make the job work for me :P (but my travel is mostly condoned by work, rather than required by it) [20:32] good if someone else pays the travel costs [20:32] flying is expensive [20:33] I wish :P but it works out reasonably. US salaries help a lot :P [20:33] oh yes [20:34] ahh well, it is rare that you get to have your cake and eat it [20:35] haha [20:37] quite [20:38] as long as you stay well and happy in your job tumbleweed [20:38] thats all that matters [20:39] and dont foresake us of course [20:39] I'll be back soon - debconf in Cape Town :) [20:40] yeah july [20:40] i wish it was over, kept fly too busy for too long [20:41] yeah, I need to be working on that stuff, too, now [20:41] the website needs work for registration... [20:41] you can ask here, i am sure there would be people who could pitch in [20:43] yep, I'm sure we'll be doing more of that... [20:59] bed time for me, good night all [21:34] night all. sleep tight