[02:50] <pleia2> meeting in 10 minutes o/
[02:54] <ianorlin> o/
[02:55] <caballero> o/
[02:55] <caballero> good evening everyone...
[02:55] <pleia2> evening ianorlin and caballero
[03:00] <pleia2> ok, meeting time
[03:00] <pleia2> #startmeeting
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[03:00] <pleia2> #chair ianorlin nhaines
[03:00] <darthrobot> Current chairs: ianorlin nhaines pleia2
[03:00] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/16March06
[03:00] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/16March06 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:00] <pleia2> that's the agenda for this evening
[03:00] <pleia2> #topic Upcoming events
[03:01] <pleia2> it appears the only thing we have coming up is the Ubuntu Hour in SF that I announced on list today
[03:01] <pleia2> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/3328-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/
[03:01] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[03:01] <nhaines> _o/
[03:01] <ianorlin> well also keep in mind next month is April
[03:02] <pleia2> ianorlin: already? x_x
[03:02] <pleia2> so hopefully we will have release parties soon
[03:02] <pleia2> I will chat with nhandler this week to see if Yelp can host again
[03:03] <pleia2> for reference, release day is April 21st
[03:03] <pleia2> I will actually be in town (only barely)
[03:03] <caballero> I am planning with the help of Phil to plan an ubuntu hour in the San Diego area...planning on perhaps the best time would around the release of 16.10
[03:03] <caballero> we are very excited....:-D
[03:04] <pleia2> caballero: great :)
[03:04] <pleia2> sometimes there are doughnuts at those ubuntu hours, I am jealous
[03:04] <nhaines> Release day is my bithday this year.  :D
[03:04] <pleia2> nhaines: woo, nice birthday
[03:04] <pleia2> #topic Announcements
[03:05] <pleia2> beyond events, anyone have any announcements?
[03:06] <caballero> Sorry...just noticed a typo...should've been 16.04
[03:06] <nhaines> caballero: sounds even better.  :)
[03:06] <nhaines> I think the next Ubuntu phone OTA is end of March, and that should have some really nice convergence features.
[03:07] <nhaines> Which means the bq MX10 tablet shouldn't be terribly far behind.  Will be exciting times.
[03:07] <pleia2> yeah, as they have been calling it the first convergence device
[03:08] <caballero> FYI: ubuntu user magazine is due 3/25/2016 for the USA
[03:08] <pleia2> how often is that released these days? quarterly?
[03:09] <caballero> every 4 months
[03:09] <pleia2> aha
[03:09] <pleia2> alright, we can move on from announcements
[03:09] <pleia2> #topic Initial feedback/evaluation of Meetup.com group so far
[03:09] <pleia2> #subtopic How it worked for UbuCon Summit and related SCALE14x events
[03:10] <pleia2> so I think this was sub-optimal
[03:10] <pleia2> everyone had to join the loco in order to rsvp :(
[03:10] <pleia2> that was lots of people from all over the world
[03:10] <pleia2> and meetup doesn't seem to allow people to join an event and not the group (unless I'm missing a setting)
[03:10] <nhaines> It isn't very tidy, administratively.
[03:11] <nhaines> I believe that's true.  Meetup is designed for groups to be topics of interests, not actual groups.
[03:11] <nhaines> At least, that's the focus.
[03:11] <pleia2> I did hear some grumbling about having to join for it, and some people just didn't bother (came to the events anyway)
[03:13] <ianorlin> yeah I don't really like meetup that way
[03:13] <pleia2> any other feedback from how it worked for these events?
[03:13] <caballero> I was getting anywhere form 4 to 7 invitations on a daily basis while Scale 14x
[03:14] <pleia2> caballero: for ubuntu california things, or meetup being spammy in general?
[03:14] <ianorlin> I think the turning in the everpad notes at unconfrence events did not work the best
[03:14] <nhaines> I thought it was interesting to see what other groups people belonged to who joined the Ubuntu California group.
[03:14] <pleia2> ianorlin: talking about meetup :)
[03:15] <nhaines> And it did seem like it gave UbuCon Summit some exposure.
[03:15] <ianorlin> yeah and then I think they might still be getting notificatoins about like say the new ubuntu hour
[03:15] <nhaines> I think this will be beneficial for future events.
[03:15] <ianorlin> which kind of does not help when you are that far away
[03:15] <pleia2> yeah, meetup does help with exposure (I'll get to that in the next subtopic)
[03:16] <pleia2> which seems we're kind of in anyway
[03:16] <pleia2> #subtopic How it's working in general as a team resource
[03:16] <caballero> both: in general it was for everything going on in Scale 14x..and ubuntu too like the party Mark through for the ubuntu community
[03:17] <pleia2> I got a complaint from a member in Pasadena about how the SF Ubuntu Hour was too far away http://www.meetup.com/Ubuntu-California/events/228693398/
[03:17] <darthrobot> [403] Title: [Attention Required! | CloudFlare]
[03:17] <pleia2> heh, bot
[03:17] <pleia2> so meetup is also really not designed for states
[03:17] <ianorlin> pleia2: +1
[03:17] <pleia2> I am sure all you socal people are annoyed at my monthly SF events
[03:18] <nhaines> Doesn't bother me.  I'm quite adept at deleting Meetup emails now.  :)
[03:18] <pleia2> lol
[03:18] <pleia2> also, most of our members are from socal
[03:18] <pleia2> I think that's because the location is set as Los Angeles
[03:18] <nhaines> And one person did seem to be happy to know that there are Ubuntu Hours up there.  So that was kind of nice.
[03:18] <ianorlin> pleia2: less annoying than component mismatches from main that have reverse dependcies in main emails
[03:18] <pleia2> it's exciting when I see someone join the group who is bay area
[03:19] <pleia2> but we have seen a slight uptick in attendance of Ubuntu Hours here since posting on meetup too, so it is getting to *some* of the right people :)
[03:19] <nhaines> That's good news.  :)
[03:19] <nhaines> I wish we had more group events.  That would definitely make Meetup.com more useful.
[03:20] <pleia2> yeah
[03:20] <ianorlin> Yeah meetup tends to give sometimes events you can't go to
[03:20] <pleia2> need to make richard add pasadena events
[03:20] <ianorlin> or have someone that can add them once they are announced
[03:20] <pleia2> are they announced somewher?
[03:20] <ianorlin> I don't know
[03:20] <ianorlin> but yeah that would be helpful
[03:21] <caballero> meetup is very useful to spread the word....at least is the impression i get....
[03:21] <nhaines> pleia2: that's right, actually, I do need to do that.  Although I think they're announced on the SGVLUG Meetup group.
[03:21] <pleia2> nhaines: ah :)
[03:21] <pleia2> just have him Cc: our list!
[03:22] <pleia2> anyway
[03:22] <ianorlin> it spreads the word but sometimes to people that can't come because it is too long; can't commute
[03:22] <pleia2> I'm kind of meh on meetup, it has gotten 1-2 more people at our Ubuntu Hours, and it'll be interesting to see how/if it helps our release party
[03:22] <pleia2> but it's got a lot of annoying things
[03:23] <nhaines> That's about my feeling, too.  I do think that UbuCon Summit was a great way to jumpstart the group membership.
[03:23] <nhaines> So I think that will make the group much more useful than it otherwise would have been.
[03:23]  * pleia2 nods
[03:23] <ianorlin> +1
[03:24] <pleia2> ok, any other thoughts?
[03:24] <pleia2> I didn't really expect an action item out of this, I'll keep crossposting events to meetup and loco.u.c
[03:25] <nhaines> I think it was good to look back and see how it's beginning to shape up.  Good timing on this.
[03:26] <pleia2> #topic Any other business
[03:26] <pleia2> anything else?
[03:26] <pleia2> I'll be in the wrong part of the planet again for our next meeting
[03:27] <pleia2> should keep an eye on the loco mailing list for when they start talking about release parties though
[03:27] <ianorlin> pleia2: +1
[03:28] <pleia2> someone asked in the locoteams channel for them to add the release party event to loco.u.c, but it looks like that hasn't been done yet
[03:28] <nhaines> Sounds good to me.
[03:28] <caballero> pleia2: as we get closer to our announcement for the ubuntu hour in SD I will emailing you...so expect emails from luis.r.caballero@cox.net
[03:28] <pleia2> caballero: ok :)
[03:30] <pleia2> alright, looks like we can wrap this up
[03:30] <pleia2> thanks for coming, everyone
[03:30] <nhaines> \o/
[03:30] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[03:30] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Mar  7 03:30:32 2016 UTC.
[03:30] <darthrobot> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2016/ubuntu-us-ca.2016-03-07-03.00.moin.txt
[03:30] <caballero> good night...
[03:30] <ianorlin>  /me goes to get dinner
[03:30] <nhaines> pleia2: I emailed everyone the group photo for SCALE at least a week ago.  :)
[03:31] <pleia2> nhaines: hm, to where?
[03:31] <nhaines> pleia2: directly to their email addresses.
[03:31] <pleia2> including me?
[03:31] <pleia2> can not find
[03:31] <nhaines> So I believed.
[03:32] <nhaines> https://cloud.nhaines.com/index.php/s/fKvAdoLm5KZcMkO
[03:32] <darthrobot> Title: [ownCloud]
[03:32] <pleia2> yay
[03:32] <nhaines> It's a little large.
[03:32] <pleia2> maybe because you already shared your owncloud thing with me I didn't get an additional email
[03:33] <pleia2> if I tweeted this, would it break your owncloud?
[03:33] <pleia2> or can we upload to the ubuntu_us_ca flickr group (need license + author)
[03:34] <nhaines> I believe that I put the link in an email and you were on the CC: list.  So maybe you weren't!
[03:34] <pleia2> also, been a long time since we've used it :) https://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntu-us-ca
[03:34] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu California Team | Flickr - Photo Sharing!]
[03:34] <nhaines> Upload it to the Flickr group as copyrighted and the author is David Ellsworth.
[03:34] <nhaines> I'll talk to him later about a CC license, but he's being very particular about presentation.
[03:35] <pleia2> I need to license it when I upload, so I'll wait until I hear from you about that
[03:35] <nhaines> Right, but you can change the license later, unless they've changed that.
[03:36] <pleia2> yeah, just don't want to get it wrong and have people copy it around :\ or complain about the license if it's restrictive
[03:36] <pleia2> you know the internet
[03:36] <nhaines> Okay, I'll try to do a phone call tomorrow.
[03:36] <pleia2> thanks for working on this