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exedore6Trying something.00:00
Mathisenyottabyte, that should not hapend... try holding shift on boot00:00
Mathisenthat will force grub00:00
sam__-phonemake a live supergub cd00:02
sam__-phoneand use it to install grub00:02
yottabyteMathisen: before I press the power button?00:03
yottabytedo I have to do it everytime? I'll try it shortly but I'll have to disconnect from irc00:03
R13osexangua: I am not getting anywhere on how to do that.00:03
Mathisenyottabyte, power on then hold shift yes00:04
sam__-phoneyotta make a supergrub cd or use your linux live cd to reinstall grub00:04
monty_hallhere are core dumps are stored?00:04
monty_hallI'm used to them being in the pwd00:04
monty_hallI'm debugging a program00:04
xangua5:55 PM <reisio> xfce4-notifyd, notification-daemon R13ose00:04
yottabytesam__-phone: I'm making a boot-repair-disk usb00:05
yottabyteand damn I could've used my ubuntu live cd?00:05
Mathisenyottabyte, yep00:05
sam__-phoneone is a lot quicker than the other00:05
Mathisenyottabyte, but just try shift before you try to re-install grub00:05
Mathisenit may be there is no problem at all00:06
yottabyteif I can boot into ubuntu with shift is there a way to make the grub menu reappear ?00:06
Mathisenit will do that with shift00:06
yottabytek let me try the shift thing right now00:06
R13osereisio: thanks.  There is no notification-daemon and if I remove notify-osd that will remove ubuntu-desktop too which I don't wan to do.00:07
sam__-phonehow often does being lazy help you learn new ways to use stuff?00:08
ferris_h00:11
funkiestj#git00:26
SchrodingersScat#erdone00:27
Pinkamena_DDoes anyone know of any 3d printers which provide software for ubuntu/linux (native) ?00:29
Pinkamena_Dor rather - their creators provide?00:30
Ben64Pinkamena_D: not really on topic here, but many of them work in linux, could discuss more in #ubuntu-offtopic00:31
daxthe FSF has a list of ones it certifies. might be a good idea to start there (and then probably branch out to something cheaper from the same people...)00:32
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daxdon't do that ^01:15
mniiphint: in most clients /server will disconnect you from your current server and connect elsewhere01:16
daxayup01:16
reisioI like the way it's done in MMORPGs01:16
reisioyou walk up to someone and tell them to type some string of chars, that amounts to dropping the first item in your inventory on the ground :D01:16
sam__-phonelol01:30
reisiotake that .68!01:33
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ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.01:48
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RiFisquinty have u a probleme ?01:50
fenecoCan I upgrade gnome on Ubuntu gnome 14.04.4?01:50
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fenecoWithout breaking everything :(01:51
xanguafeneco: no01:51
tewardfeneco: can you? yes, but it's painful.  should you?  No, because you'll break everything.01:51
tewardthe overarching answer being "no" here.01:51
RiFidefec en este canale hay muxas personas de cada payes ?01:52
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RiFiya quelqu'un de la france aussi pour discuter ?01:53
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teward!fr | RiFi01:53
ubottuRiFi: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.01:53
squintyRiFi,  please stop right now01:53
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tewardRiFi: seriously, stop01:56
lankanmonhey guys, I am getting: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80] when trying to update01:56
tewardlankanmon: utopic is past end of life and no longer supported01:56
tewardlankanmon: it's not on the repositories anymore, so you can't get updates01:57
RiFiteward !01:57
teward!utopic | lankanmon01:57
ubottulankanmon: Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) was the 21st release of Ubuntu.  Support ended on July 23rd, 2015. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/utopic01:57
RiFiwhat this script hh01:57
RiFiteward stoping wha ?01:57
jimRiFi, less enter key, more content. you'll get better responses that way01:58
RiFijim wtf01:59
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squintythanks k1l02:00
jimhow would this snappy thing achieve better speed and the rollback thing?02:04
jim__Hello, I'm running 14.04 and I notice my system was running a little slow so I set off to do a little cleanup.  I found out that I had a  directory "/usr/src" with lots of "linux-headers-3.13.0-68-lowlatency" type of directories in it and found that these were apparently associated with old kernel builds.  I used "Synaptic Package Manager" to remove the old kernels and I still have 30 of these "*lowlatency" directories and it's version pair02:14
jim__ directory hanging around.  Each pair of directories seems to have about 34K files in it.  How to I safely remove these unwanted directories?02:14
bobby_hi does anybody have any idea on how to remove a large volume of encrypted data that somehow unknowingly spawned under /home/ecryptfs/mx2500/.Private possibly by a trojan or something like that02:14
Bashing-omjim__: snnaptic will do that " completely remove" . be aware of what kernel you are booting ( uname -r ) and keep one other known good kernel - the one under the 'uname -r' return .02:18
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jim__I kept the most current 3 and chose the option to "completely remove" all the rest but still the files remain02:20
jim__sorry, the directories remain02:21
Jordan_Ujim__: The headers are in a different package whose name ends in -headers.02:22
anthony_hi02:25
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jim__Jordan_U:  I take you clue and I do a search in "Synaptic Package Manager" for "linux-headers-3" and get a list of packages that looks promising.  I shall remove them and see what happens.  (Leaving the most current 3, of course)02:29
Jordan_Ujim__: Also, in the future, "dpkg -S /path/to/file" will tell you what package a file is from.02:30
jimjim__, if you want the headers for the kernel you're running, you would need to know what kernel version you're running... uname -r02:31
jim__jim, yes, I'm currently running "3.13.0-79-lowlatency".  I am leaving it plus the 2 most recent ones as well.02:33
jimjim__, is there a package linux-headers-3.13.0-79-lowlatency?02:34
bobby_can someone tell me how to access ./ files or hidden directories from command line?02:35
Ben64bobby_: same way as a normal file or directory02:35
bobby_like cd ./suchadirectory ?02:35
bobby_I can't see hidden directories with ls02:36
Bashing-ombobby_: ' ls -al <whatever> ' .02:36
Ben64./ = your current location..... ./suchadirectory is a directory called "suchadirectory" in your current folder02:36
jim__jim, yes, and 29 others as well.  each pair of header directories contain about 34K files, which does a number on the "du" utility when searching for uses space.02:37
bobby_or am I mistaking ~/ with ./ hidden directories?02:37
Ben64bobby_: ~/ is your home directory02:37
Ben64bobby_: i think you're confusing ".blah" with "./blah"02:37
jimbobby_, in linux, one way to hide files and dirs, is to name them with a . at the start of the name... the -a option to ls will list them (as well as the nonhidden files and dirs that it would have anyway)02:38
jimjim__, what's your goal?02:38
jim__disk cleanup, free some space, the "/" directory was getting to full02:39
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murfjrayy lmao02:39
Ben64bobby_: "./" is the current directory, so anything that starts with "./" is where you currently are, and is usually not needed. lets say you have two folders, one called "foo", and one called ".bar" you could cd to those by doing "cd ./foo" and "cd ./.bar" or "cd foo" and "cd .bar"02:39
jimjim__, headers in general help with building stuff in c and c++, if you don't need to do that, you don't need the headers02:40
Ben64jim: not necessarily true02:40
jimBen64, what's not?02:41
Ben64that you don't need the headers if you don't want to compile02:41
FirefisheHas anyone here ever had to do a low-level hard 'turn on' of a usb bluetooth dongle?02:41
jimok... what other purpose do they serve?02:41
Ben64theres other stuff that needs it, that you may not be aware of. for example, virtualbox and nvidia drivers02:42
jimBen64, does that involve compiling and/or building packages?02:42
Ben64yes, but the user probably isn't aware of that02:42
Ben64"well i don't do any c or c++, i'll uninstall all the headers" then nvidia breaks next update02:43
jimok. so I don't understand how the statement I made isn't true... but whichever...02:43
Ben64don't assume the user knows that something is happening in the background02:44
jimwouldn't the build-depend packages get installed?02:44
Bashing-omjim: Just that the headers are needed to build modules .02:44
jimthere's that keyword again... "build"02:45
Ben64which the end user may not know about02:45
jim__I am going through each header package and checking the dependencies to make sure that there isn't a package other than a kernal build that needs them.  will that cover my posterior ?02:45
jimprobably this argument, I'm just going to drop02:46
Ben64jim__: you can safely remove the older ones02:46
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jimBen64, using that logic, let's put build-essential in the base02:48
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bobby_what is the ./Private dir for under ~/ ?02:48
Ben64bobby_: why do you keep doing ./ at the beginning of everything02:48
bobby_sorry /.Private02:49
Ben64still no02:49
jimprobably you mean ~/.Private02:50
jim(aka "the hidden dir .private located in the current user'02:50
jims home dir02:50
jim)02:51
bobby_~/.Private02:53
TechspectreHey guys. I have an HDD that went belly up like a year ago. I held onto it just in case I'd ever be able to recover the files. Well, I plugged it in today just for the hell of it and it actually spun up. It's spinning now and Ubuntu sees it, though the filesystem says 'unknown'. What's the best course of action to possibly recover data here?02:54
bobby_one hour ago my root directory was 25% full then about 25 minutes ago I looked again and it was at 95% capacity and I found a lot of encrypted data under this directory and I was wondering where it came from I think it was a trojan or someting02:55
Ben64Techspectre: use dd or ddrescue to make an image of the drive somewhere safe, then mess with that02:55
MannyLNJStill needing assistance: I had Samba working, I can see the system when I click broswe to network but when I try to connect to it I get thge message failed to retreive share list. I really need help please02:56
Bashing-ombobby_: Did you check the size of the log files, and what wrote to them ( maybe ) that is spamming the logs ?02:56
jim__The removal of header files went well.  I hoping that the removal of those 900K plus files in those header directories will not only free up disk space but will help out with file-system meta data cashing and also speed things up a bit.02:57
bobby_bashing-on: good idea which logs should I check?02:58
Ben64jim: they're not very large02:59
Bashing-ombobby_: Look in the directory ' /var/log/ . in particular dmesg, kern.log and syslog .03:00
karrotI have a probelm with connecting to wife, when I bring up the little icon in the upper right corner, it brings up about 10 wifi connections, but it ignores the one I really need03:00
karrotI feel like there might be some maximum wifi spots it will show03:00
bobby_ok03:00
jim__Ben64, that is very true.  However, each file eats up an I-node and having more free I-nodes makes file creation and space allocation easier for the file-system to accomplish.03:01
jim__and hopefully quicker03:01
alphishey guys. i have a service i want to autostart and i can start it manually with systemctl start servicename.service. however when i run systemctl enable servicename.service it simply fails with no useful information03:02
TechspectreBen64, thank you I'm looking into ddrescue now03:04
MannyLNJStill needing assistance: I had Samba working, I can see the system when I click broswe to network but when I try to connect to it I get thge message failed to retreive share list. I really need help please03:05
paul_1515are you running sudo systemctl enable servicename ?03:07
sorunbuyukhelp03:10
sorunbuyukhelp03:10
reisiohelp granted03:11
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sorunbuyukhelp?03:13
sorunbuyuki have big problem03:14
sorunbuyukhttp://imgur.com/UdYv1rf03:14
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reisiosorunbuyuk: hey bro03:16
reisiosorunbuyuk: what's the problem?03:16
Bashing-om!details | sorunbuyuk03:16
ubottusorunbuyuk: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)03:16
TechspectreBen64, is having ddrescue write an image of the drive to a file on your good drive a bad idea?03:16
hrzhuhow long will a proposed package take to get into release?03:19
sadHi03:19
hrzhuvirtualbox-ext-pack 5.0.16 is released but virtualbox 5.0.16 has been proposed for 20 hours.03:19
sadI have a problem with synaptis crash dpkg03:19
sadI dont no what to do03:20
hrzhuThis cause all of my vm failling to launch03:20
sadI can"t open synaptic package03:21
johnnybravo_Hello, anyone here?03:22
reisiojohnnybravo_: eyup03:22
compdocjohnnybravo_, who wants to know?03:23
johnnybravo_I'm brand new to Ubuntu and Linux. Quick question; the launcher at the top of the screen went missing. I know there's a terminal command to reload it. Anyone know what it is?03:23
johnnybravo_I'm running Ubuntu Mate 15.10.03:23
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hiljohnnybravo_, alt-F2, type unity + ENTER03:25
johnnybravo_Awesome, thank you.03:26
johnnybravo_Will that work for Mate as well?03:27
johnnybravo_Technically I don't think I'm running unity.03:27
squintyyour not03:27
hil no03:27
reisiojohnnybravo_: no, it's probably mate-panel03:27
snowgoggleshrzhu: why don't you rollback your virtualbox package version to the version that was working...then force pin the version until the proposed package you require is released03:27
xanguajohnnybravo_: right clic in the panel, there should be an option to add items03:27
MannyLNJStill needing assistance: I had Samba working, I can see the system when I click broswe to network but when I try to connect to it I get thge message failed to retreive share list. I really need help please03:27
reisiosorunbuyuk: what rest?03:27
johnnybravo_Ah, that worked. Thank you!03:28
snowgogglesMannyLNJ: are the systems in question both linux based or are you browsing from linux client to non-linux system?03:29
reisiojohn-mcaleely: now if you log out & save your session, it will likely persist for future sessions03:29
MannyLNJsnowgoggles, for the moment the systems are ubuntu. I will be throwing a win 8.1 system into the mix later. The system I need to put the share on is a laptop with a broken display and no working vga port that has a printer and 2 external drives attached.03:30
bobby_one quick question what type of data is usually stored under /home/.ecryptfs/Superuser/.Private  ?03:30
jimBen64, you were speaking to jim__?03:30
jimI noticed a hilite03:31
reisiobobby_: as opposed to?03:31
bobby_what is that hidden directory .Private used for is what I am asking03:32
snowgoggleshave you changes any file permissions since the last successful samba connection?03:33
MannyLNJsnowgoggles, No I haven't03:33
snowgogglesMannyLNJ: have you changes any file permissions since the last successful samba connection?03:33
reisiobobby_: it's probably just a simple indicator that that directory is "private"03:34
snowgogglesMannyLNJ: kernel updates?03:34
MannyLNJsnowgoggles, No, no kerel updates that I am aware of. If you want to see my smb.conf file it's at   http://paste.ubuntu.com/15318750/03:35
bobby_reisio: oh so it's not generally used for anything defaulted in unbuntu?03:38
Ben64bobby_: open the folder and look inside03:38
snowgogglesMannyLNJ: what does smbstatus report?03:39
MannyLNJsnowgoggles,  That command shows some errors https://paste.ubuntu.com/15318777/03:41
Jordan_Ubobby_: You've now given two different paths for this directory now, how are you determining the path? What is the output of "ls -l /home/"?03:43
reisiobobby_: the .ecryptfs dir in general is probably your encrypted /home data03:45
bobby_total 1203:49
bobby_drwx------ 56 mx2500 mx2500 12288 Mar  6 20:49 mx250003:49
snowgogglesMannyLNJ: if smbd is running you could retry restarting manually...it's possible the service may have initial startup issue...aka running on a laptop and they're idiosyncrasies03:51
MannyLNJsnowgoggles, would that be '/etc/init.d/smbd restart'03:52
Ben64sudo service samba restart03:52
vuffiehello03:52
snowgogglesyou need to place sudo ahead on the commandline03:52
Ben64MannyLNJ: can you explain the actual problem03:52
vuffieguys I need some help with the HP Proliant ML110 G6 server03:53
vuffieI need to either reset it to factory.....settings if that kind of thing is possible or somehow install ubuntu on it,if also, that is possible.03:54
vuffiecan anyone help?03:54
Ben64vuffie: write ubuntu iso to a usb drive, boot it, install03:54
vuffieBen64 is it ok to install ubuntu on the server I mentioned?03:55
MannyLNJBen64 I'm trying to setup a SAMBA share on an Ubuntu system I only connect to via SSH. Media files will go here to be played from a Ubuntu laptop and a windows 8.1 system. The System with the share is "seen" by the Ubuntu laptop if I click browse network but if I then click on the system I get a message that says Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection refused03:55
vuffieI read it's manual pdf, it said cent os and some windows servers03:55
Ben64vuffie: sure03:55
Ben64MannyLNJ: does it work from windows03:56
MannyLNJBen64, No it doesn't03:56
vuffieBen64 Thanks03:56
xenon_Hello, anyone around to help out a Linux newbie with FDE? I have a few partition questions03:58
Ben64MannyLNJ: go to the ubuntu laptop, and try "smbclient -L <ip of server>"03:59
Ben64xenon_: and FDE is...?03:59
xenon_Full disk encryption03:59
RedlanceI'm looking for a recommendation.  I'm setting up a personal web server, which will host maybe 5 domains.  Is there an easier way to configure it, than editing all the .conf files by hand?03:59
xenon_I'm attempting to set up Ubuntu FDE and getting errors03:59
Ben64Redlance: once you have a good conf, just use it as a template04:00
MannyLNJBen64, it says Connection to 192.168.1.104 failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)04:01
xenon_I had configured the partitions via goarted: / -15GB, /boot -1GB, /home -85 GB. When selecting the "something else" during Ubuntu setup, the installer reports that it failed to create the encrypted volume for /04:01
xenon_*gparted04:01
Ben64MannyLNJ: now run that from the server04:01
xenon_Do / AND /home need to be encrypted separately, or can I just encrypt / and when /home is made it's inside / ?04:02
RedlanceBen64: Okay, thanks.  I was thinking about WebMin, but it seems overkill since I probably won't touch the config once it's up.04:02
Ben64Redlance: webmin isn't supported on ubuntu btw04:02
MannyLNJBen64, same message.. Yet if I use the loopback IP it displays the shares04:02
Ben64MannyLNJ: well there you go, you need to have it listen on the external ip04:03
Ben64xenon_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto04:03
MannyLNJBen64, in smb.conf I do hjave it set to listen on lo and eth004:04
MannyLNJBen64, could this be a firewall issue?04:04
Ben64MannyLNJ: if you set up a firewall, yes04:04
MannyLNJBen64, I'm using ufw but I thought I had to allow Samba04:05
RedlanceBen64: Oh, okay.  And which mail server is the easiest to setup?  I had Postfix running a few (10?) years ago04:06
Ben64Redlance: i haven't messed with my own email since google apps came out04:06
RedlanceBen64: Okay, thanks again!04:07
hrzhugoogle apps doesn't provide free plan anymore04:18
hrzhuthere was a way to register free google app via google app engine but i don't know it its still available04:19
Redlancehrzhu: Yeah, I was looking...it looks like it costs $5 per user per month...too high for this server...04:21
hrzhuRedlance: check this link http://lifehacker.com/5967336/use-google-app-engine-to-get-google-apps-for-your-domain-for-free I don't know if this still work. it worked when google first closed apps free plan.04:23
mbuffull disk encryption can be done after post-installation, or does it need to be done only during installation?04:42
xanguambuf: during it's recommended04:52
mbufxanadu_, thanks!04:54
jdoelgeri'm trying to use a remote console (SOL) to enter a password for a cryptsetup encrypted boot disk. i can see text output, but can't input text at the disk's password prompt04:56
jdoelgeram i wrong in thinking this is something i can do?04:57
Gallomimiano04:57
Gallomimiayour text does not appear when entering a crypto password04:57
Gallomimiayou must type it blind04:57
jdoelgerand i have, but when i press return it doesn't proceed04:57
Gallomimiadoesn't even say wrong passphrase?04:58
jdoelgernot even that04:58
Gallomimiayeah sounds like its not working. never tried with remote console04:58
jdoelgeronce the system is booted, i have a working console over ttyS1 that i can connect to using ipmitool04:58
jdoelgerand during boot, with the same connection, i have text output... but no input04:58
Gallomimianot that you need input during boot.04:59
Gallomimiabut this part... hm.04:59
CIclopsHi (14.04.4) Software Updater keeps saying "Failed to download repository information" and "Check your internet connection", which is working, it then says "Some software couldn't be checked for updates" and gives a list of updates, should I install them or change something?05:04
jdoelgerwell i have grub's output sent to ttyS1 and i can see that now, and i can see all the boot output, still no input at password prompt05:06
snowgogglesCIclops: run "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal and see what more specific errors it reports05:06
CIclopsthx snowgoggles .. it says Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)05:10
snowgogglesCIclops:  i386 is 32 bit specific package....you may need to updagrade to an amd64 package for Chrome as i googled this error and recently its reporting no more 32 bit versions are being distributed.... http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/fix-failed-to-fetch-google-chrome_3.html05:13
xanguaCIclops: are you using a 32 or 64 bit OS?05:15
CIclops64 bit 14.04.405:16
Bashing-omCIclops: snowgoggles Google droipped 32 bit suppirt . must now expecitly declare 64 bit . See : http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/fix-failed-to-fetch-google-chrome_3.html  for the resolution .05:16
snowgogglesCIclops: install the 64 bit chrome and you're golden05:18
CIclopssnowgoggles, should i remove the 32 bit chrome first, if so how?05:21
snowgogglesCIclops: go to the weblink i provided earlier...follow the removal intructions...it's copy paste commands in a terminal05:23
tabletdo nvdia cards work better than amd cards on ubuntu05:24
CIclopssnowgoggles, thx05:33
xanguasnowgoggles: there's no where in the blog post it says "remove the 32 bit package and install the 64 bit one"05:34
hiltablet, there is no universal answer to that05:34
xanguaCIclops: you don't have to remove anything, just follow the post instructions05:35
snowgogglesxangua: i referred him back to the website to follow the instructions05:38
jim__I have in my task manager display what appears to be a continuously running attempt to install a flash plugin.  It makes no sense.  Here is the command that is running.  " /usr/lib/firefox/plugin-container /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appdir /usr/lib/firefox/browser 2705 true plugin"05:40
jim__anybody have any explanation of what is going on with flash in that command?05:42
snowgogglesjim__: possible a dependancy is missing...what repository is your firefox browser coming from?05:45
jim__not sure, how do I tell?05:45
hiljim_ , flash plugin activated in firefox?05:45
jim__hil: it was, then I turned it off to see what would happen, nothing happened.05:46
snowgogglesjim__:  run this in terminal "apt-cache policy firefox"05:48
jim__snowgoggles: If I pull up the Ubuntu Software Center, I can see that it is shown as being installed05:48
snowgogglesjim__: need to verify its source location to eliminate other possible sources i.e. a ppa version05:50
jim__firefox:05:50
jim__  Installed: 44.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.105:50
jim__  Candidate: 44.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.105:50
jim__  Version table:05:50
jim__ *** 44.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 005:50
jim__        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main amd64 Packages05:50
hiljim__, if you don't want flash at all maybe just try: sudo apt-get remove --purge adobe-flashplugin flashplugin-installer05:53
hilor maybe  ubuntu-restricted-extras also05:54
snowgogglesjim__: ok good it's a legit source version....run "sudo apt-get update" does it return any errors?05:54
hilsnowgoggles, sry for interrupting05:55
snowgoggleshil: no probs05:55
jim__snowgoggles:  I ran the command and it returned a lot of info with lines beginning with "Get" or "Hit" but I don't believe I see the word "error" anywhere.05:56
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snowgogglesjim__:  errors usually are reported at the end....so that's good your firefox app should be alright......i don't use firefox but there should be a debug or repair option in settings...i don't recall..are you aware of a particular plugin causing the issue?05:58
jim__snowgoggles: firefox is not performing its normal speedy self.  So I went poking around.  The odd thing I found was that process that looks like it continuously trying to install the flash player06:00
Anthony-Lhello?06:01
totorystalweird06:01
Anthony-Li need some help06:01
reisio'lo06:01
totorystal233306:01
Anthony-Li'm trying to play a video game and getting the error. "Could not find OpenGL entry point 'GLGetError'! Either your video card is unsupported or it needs to be updated."06:01
supernoob_ahewhow are most people developing small scale php apps these days? Localhost or inside VM?06:02
reisiosupernoob_ahew: by using python instead06:03
reisioVM is overkill; some people certainly do it, though06:03
hillol, python06:04
totorystallol,cpp06:04
reisiohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE#Example_106:04
virtuosojanyone else here running 16.04 beta? I just installed06:04
somsip!16.04 | virtuosoj06:05
ubottuvirtuosoj: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1479 - Discussion in #ubuntu+106:05
totorystalreisio what?06:05
virtuosojI'm noticing that GNOME software doesn't have any version numbers06:05
reisiototorystal: ?06:05
reisiovirtuosoj: ?06:06
totorystalreisio this url is about what?06:06
Anthony-Li'm trying to play a video game and getting the error.06:06
Anthony-L                   "Could not find OpenGL entry point 'GLGetError'! Either your06:06
hillolcode rox06:06
virtuosojok some programs have version number... a lot just don't06:07
Anthony-Lwhoa, sry for that.06:07
reisiototorystal: stuff & things06:07
* totorystal 06:07
MannyLNJHaving a NEW problem connecting to a Samba share on one Ubuntu system from another. New error is failed to mount windows share cannot allocate memory06:07
hil.oO( harhar )06:07
snowgogglesjim__: try disabling some of your plugins and restart firefox...worst case.....clear broswing history/data/cache06:09
somsipMannyLNJ: would the last fix on this page help any (needs a proper read through) http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/108695/mount-cifs-mount-error12-cannot-allocate-memory06:10
snowgogglesMannyLNJ:  i think your samba issue is permissions related....were you able to restart the smbd service?06:11
OnceMeI have one dev mounted to /06:11
OnceMewhich is 100G06:11
OnceMeand other dev mounted to /home which is 100G06:11
OnceMedoes that mean I can use in total of 200G inside /home06:11
OnceMebecause one dev is on / which is 100G?06:12
MannyLNJsnowgoggles, Yes I was, The smbclient -L now works06:12
OnceMeor I can only use 100G for /home?06:12
hiljust 10006:13
Anthony-Lanyone have any input on video games and opengl error?06:13
PonyToastHey folks...I'm completely new to linux. I have had ubuntu for all of two hours and I've already broken my first thing. Anyone willing to help me with what is probably a super basic stupidity on my end?06:13
OnceMe??06:13
reisioPonyToast: this is the place06:13
hrzhuwhat's your graphic card and driver? I have problem with playing dota2 with nvidia-361 recnently. rollbacking to nvidia-352 solve the problem.06:14
PonyToastSo...I started following some super basic tutorials on things. Ran across this one because it seemed easy enough: http://www.unixmen.com/install-conky-lua-ubuntu-14-0413-1013-04-debian-fedora-linux-mint-opensuse/06:14
snowgogglesMannyLNJ: if i recall your smb.conf looked a little inconsistent at the end where you have your share permissions...have you changed any settings in that file lately?06:15
hilOnceMe, it is not 'inside'. it might even be its own device06:15
PonyToastfollowed it to the letter and it throws a "no such file or direcotry" error06:15
MannyLNJsnowgoggles, yes I got webmin installed on the headless system and used it06:15
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MannyLNJsnowgoggles, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15319413 is my current config06:17
reisioPonyToast: let us see what nonsense you have been reading...06:17
somsip!webmin | MannyLNJ (be warned)06:18
ubottuMannyLNJ (be warned): webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.06:18
reisioPonyToast: what throws 'no such file or directory'?06:18
hilOnceMe, if you want it to share all 200G , don't do an extra /home partition06:19
OnceMeits VPS06:19
OnceMethats why06:19
OnceMealso why my microphone not work on skype on ubuntu?06:20
MannyLNJThanks for the warning about webmin. I won't use it after I fix the File Sharing problem. I'm more successful than I was earler. At least the share itself shows mnow06:20
OnceMeI see pulse audio as output and input in skype06:20
OnceMebut not working06:20
snowgogglesMannyLNJ:  so this .conf file is exactly the same as when it was working before or changed?  You cannot view the share still?06:20
MannyLNJsnowgoggles, slightly changed, Now I see the share in the browser but cannot connect. Before I couldn't even see the system06:21
hilOnceMe, just in skype?06:22
OnceMeyes06:23
OnceMewell dunno06:23
OnceMehow to test if is just skype?06:23
OnceMeyeah its in skype only06:23
OnceMejust tested06:23
OnceMe:(06:23
reisioPonyToast: yeah, this is a weird tut, that makes you create directories via the GUI file manager... and then edit files via ... vi06:23
PonyToastapparently it's also not correct, I put the conkyrc file into the folder and it works06:24
reisioPonyToast: try conky -c ~/.conky/conkyrc06:24
PonyToastthat was two hours of searching wasted...i guess I'll have to get used to that with this OS :P06:24
reisioPonyToast: seems like they're trying to put conkyrc somewhere other than default for ... unspecified reasons06:24
reisioPonyToast: I think you'll have a better time if you assume things will just work, rather than seeking out and relying upon random bloggers06:25
reisiojust installing conky and running 'conky', it will work06:25
reisioit'll use the default rc file location06:25
reisiothere won't ever be a question as to whether it exists06:25
PonyToastit all works now.06:25
PonyToastThank you so much :)06:25
snowgogglesMannyLNJ: what operating system are you viewing the samba share from?06:26
MannyLNJsnowgoggles, trying to view it from another ubuntu system06:26
snowgogglesMannyLNJ: does it not prompt for authentication?06:27
OnceMehil: any help?06:27
MannyLNJsnowgoggles, yes it promoptyes and after entering the user it says failed to mount windows share cannot allocate memory06:31
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snowgogglesMannyLNJ: do you have a smbusers file under /etc/samba ?06:34
MannyLNJsnowgoggles, no. There is no smbusers under /etc/samba06:35
snowgogglesMannyLNJ: ok...things are starting to make a bit more sense now....so if you never had a smbusers file then it was never properly mapping a local linux account with a samba account06:36
hilOnceMe, maybe try to sudo apt-get remove --purge skype, remove the .config/Skype and .skype , then reinstall it06:36
MannyLNJsnowgoggles, would that me smbadduser?06:36
hilSince pulseaudio seems to work fine06:37
snowgogglesMannyLNJ:  that's a command to add users yes06:37
MannyLNJsnowgogsudo: smbadduser: command not found      did I mistype it?06:38
Anthony-Lanyoen here game on ubuntu?06:39
somsipAnthony-L: just ask your real question and someone will answer if they can06:39
Anthony-Ltrying to run a video game on steam and am getting 'could not find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError06:40
snowgogglesMannyLNJ:  follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20(Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal)%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way!06:40
somsipAnthony-L: what game, what version of ubuntu?06:40
Anthony-Lteam fortress 2, ubuntu 15.10, i believe06:41
linuxhey i cant set google as my search engine in linux mint(firefox)06:41
somsipAnthony-L: and what video card/drivers?06:41
Anthony-Lnvidia gtx 970, running proprietary drivers 361.2806:42
somsipAnthony-L: have a read through this - looks like some information might help you, especially last comment maybe? https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Counter-Strike-Global-Offensive/issues/61006:42
linuxpiz helpme06:42
linuxhelp me06:43
somsip!mint | linux06:43
ubottulinux: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org06:43
linuxthank you06:43
MannyLNJsnowgoggles, still no good but too tired to continue06:47
snowgogglesMannyLNJ: OK...but its a permission issue...when you're rested just follow the instructions06:48
hrzhuAnthony-L: rolling back to nvidia 352 will probably solve your prolem06:49
Anthony-Lactually, that last comment helped me. however, i put the '__GLVND_DISALLOW_PATCHING=1 steam'06:51
Anthony-Li have to do this every time. it doesn't save to the config.06:51
somsipAnthony-L: export it in ~/.profile or ~/.bash_aliases06:51
Anthony-Ltype that in the terminal?06:52
hrzhuAnthony-L: for steam games on linux, github issues is good place to get support this is relevent bug report for dota2 https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota-2/issues/75606:53
somsipAnthony-L: like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables06:53
hrzhuAnthony-L: actually i mean valvo games06:53
Anthony-Lyea, i'm a new ubuntu user today.06:54
somsipAnthony-L: ah ok - does that link help you or do you want more help?06:54
hateballAnthony-L: you can also change the launch command for affected games to be "__GLVND_DISALLOW_PATCHING=1 %command%"06:55
Anthony-Lyou guys are all speaking another language. haha06:55
Anthony-Lbare with me06:55
hateballAnthony-L: Rightclick a game, properties, click the button for launch command, paste in the string above06:56
Anthony-Ldo i have to do that for every game?06:56
hateballAnthony-L: Yes. Or do it globally as per the link somsip gave you, using .profile06:57
Anthony-Lyes, i have the link. it all looks like gibberish to me though.06:58
somsipAnthony-L: when you log in (and at other times) the commands in ~/.profile are executed. This sets a variable that is used in your whole working environment (hence, environmental variables) so it is available and applies to anything you do and any program you run06:58
somsipAnthony-L: if you want step-by-step help, just ask06:59
Anthony-Lokay, i'll type the ~/.profile in the terminal06:59
somsipAnthony-L: edit it, using something like nano or gedit06:59
Anthony-Lsomsip, can i screen share with you or something?07:00
somsipAnthony-L: no, can you open a terminal ok?07:00
Anthony-Lyes, it's open.07:00
hateballAnthony-L: Letting random people take control over your computer is probably not a great idea07:01
Anthony-Lhateball, i have nothing on this computer. i just installed ubuntu. i have nothing to lose. :)07:01
somsipAnthony-L: nano ~/.profile07:01
jonascjI see references to advanced ubuntu installation (i.e. install into existing btrfs subvolumes can apparently be done in advanced mode). Where is this advanced mode?07:01
Anthony-Lsomsip, ok07:02
somsipAnthony-L: Go down to the bottom line with arrows and add the line "__GLVND...etc...=1"07:02
Anthony-Lok07:03
somsipAnthony-L: CTRL O (will save) then CTRL X (will exit)07:03
Anthony-Lctrl x doesn't exit...07:04
EriC^^you have to press enter07:04
somsipEriC^^: thanks07:04
EriC^^np07:04
Anthony-Lthere we go07:04
somsipAnthony-L: in terminal, "cat ~/.profile" to make sure it's added ok07:04
Anthony-Lyea, thanks eric. haha, i litterally need step by step instructions.07:04
Anthony-Li'm super new07:04
jonascjIs it the alternate CDs which are used for advanced install?07:04
somsipAnthony-L: np - we've all been there07:05
Anthony-Lit's in there somsip07:05
Anthony-Lit's below the fi, last night basically.07:05
Anthony-Llet me test it07:05
somsipAnthony-L: my bad - I forgot to tell you to make it "export __GLVND..."07:05
Anthony-Lok, so? what now?07:06
somsipAnthony-L: it will work in that terminal, but you need to reedit it. I'm doing too many things at once :-/07:06
somsipAnthony-L: nano it again, add "export" to the line, CTRL O, CTRL X {enter}07:06
Anthony-Loh lord07:06
Anthony-Li can't scroll up on this irssi thing to see.07:07
somsipAnthony-L: nano ~/.profile07:07
somsipAnthony-L: {page up to scroll irssi}07:07
Anthony-Lok i typed in nano07:07
somsipAnthony-L: go down to the line you added, and put "export" at the front so it's "export __GLVDN..."07:08
Anthony-Lyou want a space in between the export and _07:09
Anthony-L?07:09
somsipAnthony-L: yes07:09
ghazihi07:09
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Anthony-Lok, ctrl o and ctrl x. correct?07:09
somsipAnthony-L: yep07:09
reisiohi Guest5697707:09
Anthony-Lok, how do i test again?07:10
Anthony-Lto see if it's there?07:10
somsipAnthony-L: type "source ~/.profile"07:10
Anthony-Ldoesn't work.07:10
somsipAnthony-L: sorry, to check it "cat ~/.profile"07:10
alpaca_sida_xDeyyy buenas a todos guapisimos aqui vegetta777 en un gameplay en directo de maincraft07:10
Anthony-Lokay, it's there.07:11
Anthony-Llet me test my game/steam now07:11
Jordan_UAnthony-L: irssi tip, "/lastlog Anthony-L" will re-print all lines to or from you, "/lastlog -clear" will clear the lines just printed by lastlog. Also, page up and pahe down work.07:11
somsipAnthony-L: so "source ~/.profile" loads the file and sets that variable. Run "steam" from that terminal to test it07:11
Anthony-Li can run steam from the GUI though. correct? i know that's not the cool computer whiz way. :P07:11
somsipAnthony-L: after you've logged out/in you will be able to07:12
Anthony-Lokay. :)07:12
somsipAnthony-L: for now, quick test from the terminal should show if it worked07:12
Anthony-Lsomsip, it worked from the terminal.07:13
somsipAnthony-L: k - so log out/in whenever is convenient, and run steam from the terminal in the meantime. That should sort you out. *However* if they fix this in the next nvidea drivers, you may want to remove that line. I have no idea what it actually does07:14
Anthony-Lit doesn't work from the GUI, which is fine. i don't mind. i need to get better at using the CLI anyway.07:14
Anthony-Lsomsip, thanks for your help.07:16
somsipAnthony-L: np07:16
Anthony-Lyou're the man.07:16
Anthony-Lsomsip, do i just leave the terminal open since steam is running?07:17
Anthony-Li noticed when i close the terminal, it closes steam also.07:17
somsipAnthony-L: for now, it's probably easier to do that. There are ways to avoid it, but depends how much more you want to learn today :)07:17
Anthony-Lhaha07:17
Anthony-Llinux is awesome. it's actually fun figure things out. however, i still don't understand all the gibberish commands.07:18
JamesT1995if you run a program in terminal, it means you are actually running if from terminal, so if you close therminal, you also clsoe the app the terminal is running07:18
Anthony-Lwhat's sudo again? super dude?07:18
somsipAnthony-L: Super User DO07:19
Anthony-Lo ok07:19
Anthony-Lthanks james07:19
Anthony-Land somsip07:19
somsipAnthony-L: taught my 8 yeard old sudo yesterday. Now I can say "sudo get in that shower". Geek kids eh :)07:19
Anthony-Lhaha07:19
daxi taught my cat sudo. he still doesn't listen to me though :(07:19
somsipdax: Can'07:19
somsipdax: catsd are super users. Anyway...07:20
JamesT1995somsip: i was only trying to explain my wife that everything she does in GUI is actually translated into commands and commands into numbers, she wasn’t getting it lol07:21
reisioshe probably has better things to store in her head07:22
JamesT1995reisio: well she was asking me what nonsense i was typing on the keyboard… haha07:22
Anthony-Lso, what's some fun things to do with ubuntu?07:23
somsipAnthony-L: earn money. Which reminds me, back to work...07:23
Anthony-Lwhere's the money tree on this?07:24
Anthony-Lwhat's the command for print money?07:24
Anthony-L:P07:24
jonascjNoone knows about advace ubuntu installer? (I don't, but I keep seeing references to it, so I'd like to find out how to use it)07:25
daxmaybe they mean the text (debian-installer) installer on the mini ISO?07:26
dax!mini07:26
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD07:26
daxor maybe they mean the option in the graphical installer to specify partitions oneself instead of using guided partitioning. i'm unsure about what that supports these days.07:27
MinatoNamikazeMy ubuntu hang on Started GNOME display manager after power gone07:28
MinatoNamikazeSorry for bad english07:29
jonascjdax: I don't think they mean the "Something else" in the graphical installer. So maybe it is the debian text installer07:30
Guest18670hello08:05
Guest18670i have installed ddns3-client where can i find configuration file for it on ubuntu?08:05
Guest18670i have installed ddns3-client where can i find configuration file for it on ubuntu?08:06
Anthony-Ldoes ubuntu use screensavers?08:06
daxGuest18670: looks like /etc/default/ddns3-client is one possible location08:07
Guest18670dax, i dont see ddns3-client there08:08
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Guest18670dax, how can i find it?08:10
daxGuest18670: which version of Ubuntu are you using, and did you get ddns3-client from Ubuntu's repositories (apt-get etc.) or somehow else?08:11
Guest18670dax, i am on ubuntu 14.04 LTS yes i got it with sudo apt-get install ddn3-client08:12
daxcurious. http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/ddns3-client/filelist says /etc/default/ddns3-client should be there.08:12
Guest18670i found that08:13
yellabs-r2hello there08:19
yellabs-r2what do you use for video conference on your ubuntu desktop ?08:19
yellabs-r2tips are welcome ..08:21
yellabs-r2:)08:21
hiltry firefox Hello08:21
hilhttps://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/hello/08:22
yellabs-r2hil does it work alright ?08:24
hilyellabs-r2, tested only once, worked fine08:25
yellabs-r2how did it work for you / how many did you connect to ?08:25
hilskype works also, but client is old and not developed further by microsoft it seems08:26
yellabs-r2yes i know08:26
yellabs-r2thats why we are looking for alternatives08:26
yellabs-r2i see that firefox hello is beta08:26
hilgoogle hangouts should work also08:26
hilSlack is planning video support later this year, but not yet. More team specific. https://slack.com/08:29
yellabs-r2yes i just tested slack with appear plugin08:30
JamesT1995Slack was almost bought by MS08:31
hilhttp://ekiga.org/ is another option08:32
daxjitsi's another option, though I haven't used it in a while08:32
daxGoogle Hangouts works too08:32
daxoh, hil said that one already :)08:32
hil ;)08:33
reisioyellabs-r2: hello uses webrtc, which requires nothing but a web browser08:34
reisioskype et al. are dead08:34
reisiohttp://talky.io/ (and a thousand others)08:34
hil...and more will come as webRTC is now really usable08:35
reisioshame, really, I think Microsoft used more GNU/Linux installations for Skype than for anything else they do08:36
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gialinhhi body08:57
ck_mfchi08:57
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UbuntuDudeanyone knows why cal -m isn't not working on ubuntu?09:12
popeyUbuntuDude: work here, asks for the month number09:13
popeyso "cal -m 3"09:13
somsipUbuntuDude: in what context?09:15
alexo1001Well hello there09:15
alexo1001Anyone here?09:15
alexo1001m8's??09:15
alexo1001m8ette's?09:15
parisaHi09:15
somsipalexo1001: it's a support channel. What's your question?09:15
alexo1001ah09:16
alexo1001ok09:16
alexo1001bye09:16
parisaI have this error massage09:16
parisaSub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:16
somsipparisa: you'll need to paste the whole thing09:16
somsip!paste | parisa09:16
ubottuparisa: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:16
xdau#joint velox09:18
parisasomsip, http://pastebin.com/AUDhDP8t09:18
parisasomsip, Here is the All thing i have run09:19
SinaDear friends anyone from canonical is here ?09:19
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somsipparisa: try the solution here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27113554/android-studio-installation09:20
UbuntuDudepopey, somsip it says -m Display Monday as the first day of the week.09:20
somsipparisa: then reinstall android-studio afterwards, if you still want it09:20
MchammerdadAnyone have any tips for successfully setting up 3 monitors over 2 graphics cards?09:20
popeyUbuntuDude: what version of ubuntu?09:21
somsipUbuntuDude: no - specified month with today highlighted when -m is used09:21
Guest6905Dear friends anyone from canonical is here ?09:21
popeyGuest6905: yes09:21
UbuntuDudesomsip: can you give example of that?09:21
somsipUbuntuDude: like popey  said, cal -m 309:21
UbuntuDudehow can I make monday the first day of the week?09:22
popeyyeah, cal -m 3, on my machine, shows march with 7th highlighted09:22
Guest6905hi popey i send you several emails but it seems that nothing happens . so can you give me the sales email address or person which can i directly email him09:22
popeyUbuntuDude: -M09:22
UbuntuDudeit's not working popey09:22
parisasomsip, I tried but the problem still remains09:23
UbuntuDudeI've tried it already09:23
popeyUbuntuDude: ncal -M works, oddly09:23
somsipparisa: how does 'apt-get purge android-studio' respond?09:23
Guest6905hi popey i send you several emails but it seems that nothing happens . so can you give me the sales email address or person which can i directly email him09:23
popeyGuest6905: lets take this to pm09:24
lvlephI am trying to make a keymap for my presenter, because unfortunately it has the same id as another device. Anyway, when I try xev and xinput test it doesn't even register the keypress. What do I do? It does show up in lsusb and dmesg doesn't show any problems.09:31
avcoehi10:09
avcoe_hi10:10
donughtugg im loving 16.04 but nothing is compiled for it XDD10:11
somsip!16.04 | donught10:12
ubottudonught: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1479 - Discussion in #ubuntu+110:12
TrioxinI see that apparmor comes preinstalled. Do I need to do any configuring for it or is it by default helping to isolate things like firefox?10:15
TrioxinI'm also using firejail10:16
lvlephI am trying to make a keymap for my presenter, because unfortunately it has the same id as another device. Anyway, when I try xev and xinput test it doesn't even register the keypress. What do I do? The presenter does show up in lsusb and dmesg doesn't show any problems.10:20
billynegwoo#pathwar-fr10:22
liugello10:30
MchammerdadI just dd'd a drive to my windows Server. When trying to mount it from my main machine I get an error.10:47
MchammerdadFailed to read last sector (955303934): Invalid argument10:47
MchammerdadHINTS: Either the volume is a RAID/LDM but it wasn't setup yet,10:47
Mchammerdad   or it was not setup correctly (e.g. by not using mdadm --build ...),10:47
Mchammerdad   or a wrong device is tried to be mounted,10:47
Mchammerdad   or the partition table is corrupt (partition is smaller than NTFS),10:47
pawieckiHello! How can I add dns server on ubuntu 14.04 server?10:48
Mchammerdadrun the tasksel command. from a terminal.10:49
ThisIsNoBodyusing network-manager ?10:50
micrsoftbotusing10:50
pawieckiMchammerdad: I mean to add ip of external dns server, using whatever is default in ubuntu 14.04 :)10:51
micrsoftbotMchammerdad:10:51
pawieckiThe documentation is not helpful on this issue, or I'm looking in the wrong place: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/tcpip.html10:52
micrsoftbotThe10:52
ThisIsNoBodyi did it but in desktop i dont know about server editon10:52
micrsoftboti10:52
ThisIsNoBodywhy does user ip show up?10:55
UbuntuMatewhy10:55
Mchammerdadpawiecki: Sorry I misunderstood, just add your dns server to /etc/resolv.conf.10:55
UbuntuMatepawiecki:10:55
Mchammerdadpawiecki: or you can use this method. http://askubuntu.com/questions/346838/how-do-i-configure-my-dns-settings-in-ubuntu-server10:56
pawieckiMchammerdad: but there's this line inside that file: #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN10:57
UbuntuMateMchammerdad:10:57
AaranHi my system keeps locking up for short periods of time usually 2-10 seconds, how can I best go about figuring out whats causing it?10:57
UbuntuMateHi10:57
Mchammerdadpawiecki: What, you listen to scary warnings by the filesystem? :)10:58
UbuntuMatepawiecki:10:58
MchammerdadReally though, the link I posted is the "recommended" method of setting a static DNS server.10:59
UbuntuMateReally10:59
MonkeyDustUbuntuMate  are you a bot?11:01
UbuntuMateUbuntuMate11:01
ThisIsNoBodyhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/58781/resolv-conf-keeps-getting-reset-by-something11:01
UbuntuMatehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/58781/resolv11:01
pawieckiMchammerdad: Thanks, the linked method is simple and works. It would be nice, if I could find this information inside documentation, but... oh well :)11:01
AaranAny advice?11:03
UbuntuMateAny11:03
ThisIsNoBodyabout what?11:03
UbuntuMateabout11:03
MonkeyDust!ops | UbuntuMate is a bot11:03
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Mchammerdadpawiecki: Run "man interfaces" for internal documentation.11:06
AaranMy system keeps locking up for short periods of time usually 2-10 seconds, how can I best go about figuring out whats causing it?11:08
MonkeyDustAaran  what ubuntu version? define 'locking up', does it require your password? when did it start?11:09
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Aaran4.2.0-29-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 8 16:57:47 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux, by locking up I mean a period of time where I can still move the mouse but clicking does nothing neither does typing11:11
Aaranhowever if I am in a document when it happens after it has finished the words I type appear11:11
MonkeyDustAaran  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue11:12
AaranUbuntu 15.10 \n \l11:12
MonkeyDustAaran  and what DE? Unity?11:12
kzUu9oUivSAaran11:12
AaranCinnamon11:12
kzUu9oUivSCinnamon11:12
MonkeyDustkzUu9oUivS  blah11:13
kzUu9oUivSkzUu9oUivS11:13
MonkeyDustthe channel is under attack11:13
kzUu9oUivSthe11:13
MonkeyDustAaran  CPU speed comes to mind ... install indicator-cpufreq, an interactive applet11:18
AaranOk 1 min11:19
Myrttihm11:19
d2aDH1JqA4zbUKlhm11:19
Aaranwill this log lockups? or do I need to keep an eye on it and see what its doing when the lockup happens11:19
d2aDH1JqA4zbUKlwill11:19
MonkeyDustAaran  it lets you change the cpu speed, hopefully preventing the lockups in doing so11:20
AaranOk I ran it from the terminal all I am seeing is an icon in the taskbar with the options of either powersave or performance11:22
AaranI changed it to preformance11:22
MonkeyDustAaran  odd, i have 4 options here, conservative and ondemand, too11:23
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: hi11:23
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje11:23
linux_hello everyone11:24
Aaranwill closing the terminal and closing the application cause it to default back to power save ?11:25
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MonkeyDustAaran  what happens when you try11:25
Guest46028hello11:25
Aaranwell the icon disappears so I am unsure if it drops out of performance or not11:26
MonkeyDustAaran  launch it again to find if it has changed ... but has your machine's performance improved?11:27
Guest46028i have configured ddns3-client file how can i run that now on ubuntu?11:27
Guest46028i have configured ddns3-client file how can i run that now on ubuntu?11:27
Aaranwell closing the terminal did not help, I opened the menu bar typed terminal clicked the terminal icon then the computer locked for 38 seconds11:29
eMlZusvklQ0OhSWwell11:29
Aaranits still in performance however11:29
Guest46028i have configured ddns3-client file how can i run that now on ubuntu?11:30
XIf6X9KRSJFHNQti11:30
mikul_I am trying to modify a bash script that translate selected text to english, so that it can take text from skype as well (ergo i want to delete all timestamps thats in brackets).. I've gotten it to work, but the output is on one line.. so now i am wondering if anyone can help me get all lines on new lines so its easier to read.  here is what i've got so far: http://pastebin.com/C2eNt6hP11:33
MonkeyDustmikul_  that's more for the #bash channel11:33
mikul_ok ty11:34
Aaranany other ideas on tracking down the problem?11:37
mikul_i've posted it in #bash as well but if anyone got a clue i'm open for help ;-)11:38
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lotuspsychjeAaran: best to re-ask your issue here once in a while so others can try to help11:42
Aaranok thanks11:43
humbotpossibly find more people with cinnamon experience on the mint server11:45
AnticomHi all. I want to install createrepo on my host to build some meta data for rpm repositories. However i saw in dependencies of createrepo package, that it depends on rpm and yum. Now i'm afraid of installing createrepo and replacing dpkg + apt.11:45
Anticomwhich i don't want obviously11:45
lotuspsychje!repo | Anticom can this help?11:46
ubottuAnticom can this help?: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.11:46
Jakey3how would i route my openvpn though a different port? the usual port is blocked11:47
AnticomI just wanted to know, whether installing rpm+yum replaces my dpkg+apt11:47
lotuspsychje!vpn | Jakey311:48
ubottuJakey3: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN11:48
Jakey3doesnt mention about changing the port?11:49
k1l_Anticom: that doesnt work on ubuntu.11:49
Anticomk1l_: what exactly doesn't work?11:49
k1l_ah, sorry missed the info form the question before11:50
Anticom^_^11:50
AnticomBasically i just need the createrepo utility. I've got a directory of rpm's and i want to populate the metadata for it11:50
k1l_Anticom: if you install a package and it will remove another one apt will ask you if you want to do that11:50
Anticomk1l_: I just don't want to mess up my machine and invest time to fix it again11:51
k1l_!info yum11:51
ubottuyum (source: yum): Advanced front-end for rpm. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.4.3-3 (wily), package size 474 kB, installed size 3188 kB11:51
voozeHi, after reinstaling windows on my secound drive, I had to use ubuntu live usb to do grub-install again, that worked well, but now my EFI partition (boot/efi) is broken. What tool do I need to recreate it?11:56
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: ^^ waky waky :p11:57
EriC^^lol11:57
EriC^^:D11:57
EriC^^vooze: chroot and mkdir -p /boot/efi , make sure it's mounted and everything and then grub-install11:57
EriC^^and update-grub11:57
voozeEriC^^, awesome, let me try :) 2 secs11:58
EriC^^vooze: did you ever switch the efi files so that it worked?11:59
afrokarlssonhi, do you know, that in land is church police one leg man and normal man, and in sea is 2 left hand womans and 3 normal womans11:59
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voozeEriC^^, not sure what you mean. I have Windows on a secound drive, so Ubuntu is on its own drive/SSD. I then used ubuntu live usb and mounted /dev/sda3 as /mnt and then sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /sda -- Then I noticed sda1 (boot/efi) was not mounting so I had to S(Skip) and then I tried fixing it with deleting the partition but was unable to recreate it. Now its just an "empty" FAT32 partition with boot flag.12:02
voozeEriC^^, any way to recreate it?12:02
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shafoxI just upgraded from 14.04 to 15.10 using sudo do-release-upgrade and now it has restarted but it's just stuck after started light display manager12:03
EriC^^vooze: yeah, follow the steps i mentioned, also make sure it's in /etc/fstab with the new UUID12:03
lotuspsychjeshafox: thats not recommended to do12:03
EriC^^( sudo blkid to get the UUID )12:03
lotuspsychjeshafox: clean install instead12:03
voozeEriC^^, I assume from live USB ?12:03
EriC^^vooze: yes12:03
voozeEriC^^, okay, will try12:03
shafoxlotuspsychje: you are saying shouldn't use upgrade at all ? Only clean install ?12:04
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lotuspsychjeshafox: your trying to upgrade from LTS to non LTS skipping ubuntu versions12:04
shafoxlotuspsychje: I followed it showed me. Is there anyway I can do a LTS release upgrade ?12:05
voozeEriC^^, should I mount sda1 as /mnt/boot/efi ?12:05
craptalkcan i change irssi background theme?12:05
Nicholas1that depends upon the irc client ur using craptalk12:06
craptalki cant seem to do it since i changed few times and only its font that changes12:06
lotuspsychjeshafox: from 14.04 it will goto 16.04 but its still in developing phase right now12:06
EriC^^vooze: yeah12:06
craptalkNicholas1: explain to me about which client12:06
Nicholas1lotuspsychje what is instat call back error 7112:06
shafoxlotuspsychje: ok12:07
Nicholas1i am getting these messages in my kernel12:07
toriHi All12:08
toriI am getting "Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message"12:08
voozeEriC^^, and then after I sudo chroot /mnt I should: sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/ sda?12:09
voozeEriC^^: or another boot-directory ?12:09
EriC^^vooze: no, just sudo grub-install12:10
toriI have put "ServerName localhost" in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and /etc/host is also fine12:10
torican anyone help me in resolving this error??12:10
Nicholas1what is instat callback error 71 lotuspsychje?12:10
Nicholas1i am getting these errors . please help12:11
Nicholas1though my 3g modem is working fine12:11
shafoxRight now I have a screen that says processes are being started and ng started and it is stuck. What's the next step.12:11
voozeEriC^^, It says I need to specify --target or --directory12:11
toriI even put "ServerName localhost" in  /etc/apache2/httpd.conf file12:12
lotuspsychjeshafox: clean install, your system might be borked upgrading like that12:12
EriC^^vooze: is /etc/fstab correct?12:12
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totorystalwhy can't say in channel ##linux12:14
voozeEriC^^, yes, I just put the new UUID in.12:15
shafoxlotuspsychje: no other way to fix it ?12:15
andrew_hi all .. any exp with bitnami lamp?12:15
voozeEriC^^, grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.12:15
andrew_i installed lamp on ubuntu alongside bitnami on 8080 and now bitnami not start12:15
bazhang!info bitnami12:16
ubottuPackage bitnami does not exist in wily12:16
andrew_ok12:16
EriC^^vooze: which grub packages do you have installed?12:16
lotuspsychjeshafox: the way you upgraded is not the recommended way mate, why not start over clean to avoid troubles?12:16
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EriC^^vooze: type dpkg -l | grep grub12:16
voozeEriC^^, it one fro 14.04.4 live12:16
EriC^^it's using the installed one now cause you're chroot'd12:17
voozeoh 2 secs12:18
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:18
toriHi All,,12:19
voozegoddamit, where is | on a US keyboard :D12:19
tori I am getting "Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message"12:20
andrew_lol12:20
andrew_vooze.. shift and slash?12:20
toriI have put "ServerName localhost" in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and /etc/host is also fine12:20
grapsBluesKaj: Good morning12:20
toriI even put "ServerName localhost" in  /etc/apache2/httpd.conf file12:20
toriCan anyone help me?12:20
BluesKajhi graps12:20
voozeandrew_, thanks:d12:21
andrew_np12:21
andrew_glad to help12:21
lotuspsychjetori: maybe the ##httpd guys can help?12:21
voozeEriC^^, 2.02-beta2-012:21
voozeEriC^^, 2.02-beta2-9 *12:22
EriC^^vooze: which package arch?12:22
EriC^^vooze: type dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 999912:22
torilotuspsychje_: what is the channel name for httpd?12:23
djashdjasdhaskjdd12:23
djashdjasdhaskjdhi12:23
djashdjasdhaskjdgo away12:23
djashdjasdhaskjdghost!12:23
voozeEriC^^, okay thats weird. I cant use internet from chroot :/12:25
EriC^^vooze: open another terminal and type sudo mount --bind /run /mnt/run12:25
lotuspsychjetori: #httpd12:25
torilotuspsychje: Thank u :)12:25
voozeEriC^^, there we go :D http://termbin.com/u4az12:26
EriC^^vooze: looks ok, try apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64{,-bin,-signed} grub{,2}-common12:28
shafoxlotuspsychje: I get what you are trying to say. So I will backup everything using a live USB and then do reinstall correct ?12:32
voozeEriC^^, some weird errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15320447/12:33
lotuspsychjeshafox: if you install 15.10 fresh, you can preserve your /home yes12:33
EriC^^vooze: type df -Th | nc termbin.com 999912:34
shafoxlotuspsychje: after that I can try to update to 16.04 when it is released ?12:34
EriC^^vooze: did you mount bind /dev /dev/pts /proc and /sys before chrooting?12:34
lotuspsychjeshafox: see #ubuntu+1 for 16.0412:35
voozeEriC^^, no, only what you told me.12:35
EriC^^vooze: i meant to make a chroot12:35
EriC^^anyways open another terminal and type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done12:36
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shafoxlotuspsychje: ok. Thanks for the info12:38
voozeEriC^^, bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'12:39
EriC^^vooze: for i in /dev ...12:39
voozeEriC^^, oh lol, now it says done :d12:40
tore_is it possible to use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to a release that's *not* the latest? e.g. trusty->vivid12:40
voozeEriC^^, oh, now grub-install seems to work. Rebooting to check12:41
EriC^^vooze: type dpkg-configure -a12:42
EriC^^and update-grub12:42
voozeEriC^^, dpkg-configure does not seem to exist12:43
EriC^^ah, dpkg --configure -a12:43
voozeEriC^^, okay, after that and update-grub can I reboot to test?12:44
EriC^^yeah12:44
EriC^^exit chroot first though12:45
voozeEriC^^, crap, too late. should I reboot back live usb?12:46
EriC^^no it's fine12:46
EriC^^it just hangs sometimes if you don't exit the chroot12:46
voozeoh okay :)12:46
voozeEriC^^, it works! You are the best.12:47
EriC^^vooze: great!12:47
voozeFor future use, what should i mount as well?12:47
EriC^^to chroot?12:47
voozeEriC^^, well yes, since it seems I needed to mount more than just / and efi-boot12:48
EriC^^vooze: yeah, you need to mount the root fs at /mnt , then type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done to mount bind the virtual filesystems from the live usb to the other install, and if you have other stuff like efi you need to mount those, or you could do sudo chroot /mnt , and then type mount -a to automatically mount them ( manual is preferable though )12:50
voozeEriC^^, Thank you. Gonna save that. One last thing. I get a crash rapport on boot now. "Sorry, a problem accured while installing software. Package: grub-efi-amd64 2.02.....12:51
EriC^^vooze: try sudo apt-get -f install12:52
stevenahoyhello12:52
EriC^^it should go away i guess, it's just saved from before12:52
grapsstevenahoy: Hi12:53
Deathangels.a12:53
stevenahoyi used ubuntu studio12:53
stevenahoycan i use GIU ubuntu -desktop12:53
stevenahoy?12:53
voozeEriC^^, does not seem to fix anything.12:53
grapsstevenahoy: What's GIU ?12:54
EriC^^vooze: try rebooting i think it shouldn't appear next time12:54
stevenahoyubuntu desktop12:55
stevenahoyubuntu 14.0412:55
stevenahoyorange color12:55
stevenahoybecause i love orange so i want it12:55
grapsstevenahoy: I suppose you can. I haven't used it yet12:55
EriC^^stevenahoy: you can install it but i dont know how much it'll blend together12:55
hilstevenahoy, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:55
Deathangelhttps://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/code-vs.aspx12:56
usuarioOOOO12:56
EriC^^stevenahoy: ubuntu with different de's becomes a headache usually12:56
usuario_hey bitches12:56
usuario__holiii12:56
totorystalsounds great12:56
linuxthefishhi, i've just live booted ubuntu and there isn't any text in the menu12:56
linuxthefishlike for the wifi menu and gparted menu12:56
usuario_oh poor you12:56
stevenahoyoke thanks all12:56
usuarioALAAA12:56
stevenahoyi will try12:56
MonkeyDustusuario  sure you want to be here?12:56
usuario__you here for gay porn?12:56
stevenahoy^_^ have a great day12:56
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lotuspsychje!ops | scaredbyboo12:57
ubottuscaredbyboo: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang12:57
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voozeEriC^^, you were correct. It seems to be gone :) Thank you so much for all your help and patience.12:57
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animeaddictedHEY12:57
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EriC^^vooze: no problem12:57
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pambisitaheeeey12:58
grapspambisita: Hi12:58
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grapsIt's kind of quiet now13:01
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lotuspsychjegraps: lets not feed here, just use the channel for ubuntu support please13:01
grapslotuspsychje: All right13:01
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flopadoMonkeyDust du?13:06
grapsflopado: Yes, ubottu suggested German speaking channels13:07
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yermhy13:25
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xdavidHi13:53
IxmcGOJHVHi13:53
NoCodeWhy does the minimal ISO pull in all xorg drivers from under sun? All I wanted to do is install Cinnamon from a minimal installation so I'd have the least amount of dependencies. That way I wouldn't have Gnome-3 or MATE installed. Is there an official Cinnamon release for Ub13:54
NoCodeUbuntu*13:54
xdavidjust download full iso13:54
pFLXLYOVwWelcome13:54
PiciNoCode: did you install with suggested and recommended enabled?13:56
xdavid:)13:56
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NoCodePici, I'm unsure what that means.13:57
ALmcpFNwNPici,13:57
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PiciNoCode: The default when installing using apt-get is with recommended packages included, often that pulls in a lot of extra stuff. I suggest using --no-install-recommends when you don't need that stuff.14:00
PiciNoCode: You can also set APT::Install-Recommends and APT::Install-Suggests to 0 in your apt.conf14:00
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NetworkingProHey everyone, quick (rhetorical I think) question:  If I have all my web files chowned to www-data:www-data and I want my default user to be able to edit the files without sudo, do I just need to add my user to the www-data group?14:03
PiciNetworkingPro: yep. But be aware that group changes require your user to relogin, which may involve more than just opening a new terminal if you're in a desktop session, you may need to fully log out and log back in.14:03
jushurNetworkingPro: if the files has g+rw14:04
Picithat too14:04
NoCodePici, For an example, if setting that, I want to install 'program', I install 'program' will that dependency bring in 'program-data'? Or does it just cut off all dependencies when installing a package?14:04
NetworkingProjushur: so I could do  chmod g+rw -R web/home  ?14:04
NetworkingProand be good from then on?14:05
NetworkingProThat should allow me to scp right to my web/home directories?14:05
PiciNoCode: recommends and suggests are more like "soft" dependencies. regular depends will still be pulled in.  the recommends and suggests packages sometimes offer additional features to the program you're installing or may involve a 'nice to have' sort of thing... like pulling in extra documentation.14:05
PiciNoCode: of course, when this happens recursively for all packages and package dependencies for something you're installing it can end up being a lot of (unneeded) stuff14:06
shreddingWhere can i learn about all the stuff displayed in ifconfig?14:07
jushurshredding: man ifconfig14:07
shreddinge.g. what are the different things displayed there, which ip is mapped to what etc.14:07
NoCodePici, Okay, makes sense for sure.14:07
shreddingjushur: not how to use it, but about the concepts used there.14:07
NoCodePici, Thanks man. Really appreciate it.14:07
PiciNoCode: np :)14:08
shreddinge.g. what is ethernet, what is "utun", what does "inet 10.10.7.22 --> 10.10.7.21 netmask 0xffffffff" mean.14:08
shreddinghow do i know what is used to access the internet.14:08
JyZyXELkernel: [2658090.846615] NFS: state manager: check lease failed on NFSv4 server ha with error 1314:08
shreddingstuff like that.14:08
JyZyXELmy dmesg is being spammed with this crap14:08
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JyZyXELhow do i stop it?14:08
shafoxI have booted into my system using a live usb, now I cant access to the system disk. How can I do that?14:09
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afrokarlssonmale seamease twin borns, when 2 male twins eats in mother stamic 5 females, and female seamese twin borns when 2 females eats 5 males14:10
shafoxWhen I try to do right click on the hard drive and click on mount it gives me not authorized to do peration.14:11
lotuspsychjeafrokarlsson: stop that please14:11
jushurshredding: a guick web search gave http://www.aboutlinux.info/2006/11/ifconfig-dissected-and-demystified.html14:12
shreddingjushur: thanks, will read into that, I hoped for an in-depth guide, but guess i will need to read around.14:13
a__as14:13
shafoxHow can I mount the disk drive while on live-usb?14:15
shafoxThis is the output for sudo fdisk -l https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c5850c7f565a2f908c2014:16
streulmaHow can I install icedtea-web or icedtea-8-plugin in 15.10 Wily? How about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icedtea-web/+bug/138584214:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1385842 in icedtea-web (Ubuntu) "icedtea-8-plugin not available for openjdk-8" [Medium,Triaged]14:19
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deeVer_how do you change directory in the terminal when a folder has multiple words?14:28
MonkeyDustdeeVer_  put a \ before the space14:28
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MonkeyDustdeeVer_  like   cd my\ documents14:29
deeVer_MonkeyDust: YES! thank you so much I couldn't find the answer on google.14:30
jushurdeeVer_: tab tab, is your friend to.14:32
peteHi, i dont know if this is the correct place to ask but if not, please just let me know. I need to change my phpmyadmin from localhost to a ddns, is that something you can help me with?14:37
Element9cross-posting from #ubuntu-mate: how do i troubleshoot not being able to make a wired network connection?14:38
ck_mfcpete: so you want to make your phpmyadmin accessible from outside your network?14:39
MonkeyDustElement9  start by saying what you tried so far and what goes wrong14:40
Element9/etc/network/interfaces has just:14:41
Element9auto lo14:41
Element9iface lo inet loopback14:41
Element9i tried changing [ifupdown]managed to true14:42
fooobarrrdid you plug in your network cable?14:42
Element9yes14:43
fooobarrrwell that's about all I've got14:43
fooobarrrrestart?14:43
deeVer_Element9: what OS are you running? Have you tried another computer?14:43
MonkeyDustElement9  what's the output of  cat /etc/issue14:44
Element9when i plug the cable in "Ethernet connection 1" appears but when i try to connect it just looks like it's trying to connect but thing happens14:44
Element9deeVer_: ubuntu mate 16.04 beta14:44
fooobarrroh14:44
MonkeyDustElement9  16.04 is not ready yet, support in #ubuntu+114:45
fooobarrr"I installed a beta OS and things are broken..."14:45
Element9deeVer_: other computer is working with the same network14:45
fooobarrrand same OS?14:45
Element9not same os14:45
fooobarrrwhy not just use 14.04 like normal people?14:46
fooobarrrunless you're a ubuntu developer14:46
Element9MonkeyDust: /etc/issue says: Ubuntu Xenial Xerus (develpment branch) \n \l14:47
Element9fooobarrr: i wasn't able to get 14.04 to work on this laptop in question14:47
jushuri bet firmware issue14:48
fooobarrr could be14:48
fooobarrrnetwork drivers can be a pita14:48
fooobarrrthinkpads will always work though14:48
Element9live boot worked fine, but after install it complaed that graphics in "low" mode (something like that) and didn't let me into X. dropping into console didn't work either because i got a loging loop14:48
Element9jushur: i have dual boot and network works from windows14:49
MonkeyDustElement9  type /j #ubuntu+1, ask there14:49
Element9MonkeyDust: will do. but in case this is not due to me using beta version, i'd still like to get any suggestion anyone has14:50
fooobarrrok graphics don't matter14:50
jushurElement9: windows in quick boot asks hardware firmware to do things. so turn off quick boot in windows.14:50
sancho_panzahi, does anybody know how to use an usb soundcard as the main one?14:50
fooobarrryou could run in terminal and network would be fin14:50
jushursancho_panza: /etc/asound.conf14:51
Element9fooobarrr: graphics thing was when i tried to install 14.04. i was explaining the reason why i wasn't using 14.0414:51
Element9jushur: let me see if i have that turned on14:51
jushurElement9: its on by default.14:52
Element9jushur: is a bios setting?14:52
Element9if not, how can it make difference in ubuntu?14:52
jushurElement9: no, i said windows. is on the power page in controlpanel.14:53
jushurElement9: because windows is asking firmware to not let go of hsrdware resources.14:54
Element9jushur: got it. on it :)14:54
Element9jushur: does that option exist in win 7?14:57
jushurwhat is that? some ancient thing? /no /s14:58
Element9what is what? :)14:58
jushurit does not.14:58
Element9th14:58
Element9thx14:58
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Element9i'm back at square one. any suggestions appreciated14:59
fooobarrrdid network work with 14.0414:59
jushurlspcie -vnn , and pastebin the lines with the networkcard14:59
jushur!pastebin | Element915:00
ubottuElement9: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:00
jushurlspci15:01
Nyteraxguys, whenever I reboot Ubuntu it gets stuck in purple screen after grub selection. If I wait for some hours and then turn on the computer, it boots just fine. What the hell?15:01
Element9fooobarrr: i didn't try network in 14.04. so much was wrong with it that i nuked it. i wouldn't even know how to try it from console15:01
Element9jushur: on it. let me reboot back from windows15:01
NyteraxI dual boot with Windows 10, btw15:01
fooobarrrgrub-rescue?15:02
lapyois your pc on a cold place or something like that?15:05
Nyteraxit does get pretty hot. could that be the reason?15:05
lapyopossibly yeah15:06
Nyteraxwindows boots fine tho15:06
Nyteraxand ubuntu's like hell naw, not getting in there?15:07
Element9jushur: http://pastebin.com/VBwyyPCF15:08
lapyoI dunno, I have had similar problems with crappy hardware and/or cold/heat15:08
fooobarrrseems fine Element915:08
fooobarrrcan you liveboot 14.04?15:08
hilNyterax, have you tried pressing ESC or Ctrl-Alt-F1 at the purple screen?15:09
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Element9fooobarrr: i'll try that15:11
princessliz94hey there all, trying to find some quick help, and having trouble logging in to the forum. i don't have much time and i think i have some information that will help someone to help me. any and all help is appreciated.15:12
Nyteraxesc did nothing IIRC15:12
Nyteraxand I could boot livecd from usb15:13
MonkeyDustprincessliz94  you lost a lot of time by typing all that, better ask your question15:13
hilNyterax, Ctrl-Alt_F1 should show you the boot log15:13
Element9fooobarrr: i mean, i live booted when i tried installing it. live booted 14.04 and it worked great. i didn't try the wired network from live boot though15:13
Element9i'll try it now15:13
Nyteraxok hil I'll do that next time15:14
fooobarrrif you can live boot and it works fine install it15:15
princessliz94i'm new to ubuntu and i'm having touble getting my netgear AC600 wifi adapter to work now with 14.04 32-bit. i've already tried following this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2240631 to no avail. anyone who can help me would be highly appreciated15:15
Element9fooobarrr: i tried. i got the graphics problem and console login loop problem15:17
MonkeyDust!wifi | princessliz94 start here15:18
ubottuprincessliz94 start here: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:18
princessliz94500 internal server error15:19
MonkeyDustprincessliz94  and repeat your question every 15 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help15:19
princessliz94thanks monkey dust15:19
rschwiebHas http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/ been permanently rewritten without its HTML tables? We used to automate that process to look up the newest AMI, but now the table doesn't appear anymore...15:20
princessliz94alrighty refreshing brought up the new page, thanks ubottu15:20
rexwin_where is the inittab file in ubuntu to chang the default run level to 3 and disabling gui?15:20
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Picirexwin_: Ubuntu uses upstart/systemd, so there is no inittab, also...15:21
Pici!runlevel | rexwin_15:21
ubotturexwin_: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.15:21
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Pici!es | guest-2t4oIp15:21
ubottuguest-2t4oIp: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:21
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rexwin_so how to change runlevel to 3?15:21
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skyhackedme gustab los trenes15:22
princessliz94Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05ca:1870 Ricoh Co., Ltd Webcam 1000 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0846:9052 NetGear, Inc.  Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c52f Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub is there anything here that doesn't look like it should for a wifi adapter?15:22
princessliz94fuck. that looks bad. gonna use google drive from now on15:23
MonkeyDustprincessliz94  use a pastebin and mind your language15:23
MonkeyDusthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15:23
princessliz94sorry15:23
princessliz94http://paste.ubuntu.com/15321329/15:24
BluesKajprincessliz94, check additional drivers for the recommended rtl8812AU driver15:25
rexwin_when running runlevel it says 2. so GUI displayed in runlevel 2 in ubuntu?15:25
rexwin_is it not run level 5 that has GUI by default?15:25
ikoniarun levels don't exist any more15:26
ikonia(not in the legacy way)15:26
princessliz94ok lets pretend i'm a pure idiot and need my hand held, how exactly would i do that?15:26
princessliz94i'm sorry for my inexperience15:26
snowgooglesrexwin_:  what is the reason you need to change your runlevel?15:27
rexwin_I donot want the gui since it is a cloud machine15:28
fooobarrrthen uninstall unity15:28
rexwin_I want just like runlevel 3 with out GUI but with networking15:28
rexwin_like the old days15:28
ikoniaso disable the X11 service15:29
fooobarrror install centos15:29
ikoniainstall centos ?? what has that got to do with being a solution ?15:29
fooobarrrso he can get "runlevel 3 like the old days"15:29
ikoniajust disable the X11 service (Desktop Login service)15:29
ikoniathe systemd unit file for the desktop window manager15:30
ikoniaeither stop it, or disable it15:30
rexwin_so runlevel 2,3,4,5 have GUI in ubuntu?15:30
ikoniaif it's a full time change remove the desktop components15:30
ikoniathere are no run levels like that any more15:30
ikoniathe legacy run level model is dead in systemd15:30
fooobarrrI feel like just disabling X11 will break things15:30
ikoniawhy do you feel that ?15:30
fooobarrrI do15:30
ikoniawhy ?15:30
ikoniawhat will break ?15:30
rexwin_how to disable X11?15:31
fooobarrrthey don't think it be like it is but it do15:31
craptalkrexwin_: did you google it?15:31
rexwin_nope15:31
ikoniastop the systemd unit for the X11 login manager,15:31
ikoniathat should be enough to stop it15:31
snowgooglesrexwin_:  why didn't you just install ubuntu-core (no desktop environment, no wasted disk space)15:31
ikonia(I don't know the name of the service off hand - but if you list it it should be obvious)15:31
ikoniabecause the desktop install installs a desktop15:32
craptalkrexwin_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65856/how-does-one-exit-the-x-server15:32
fooobarrrgdm is the destkop manger right?15:32
ikoniaI don't think ubuntu uses gdm with unity does it ?15:32
fooobarrrI forget15:32
ikonialist the systemd units15:32
geniilightdm should be the default now15:32
fooobarrrthe service stop lightdm15:32
ikonialightdm thats it15:32
ikoniathanks genii15:32
ikoniano15:32
ikoniathat is not how you use systemd15:32
ikonia(I did read right that this is a 15.X release - not 14.04 ?)15:33
fooobarrrdid rexwin_ say?15:33
ikoniaI thought I read a 15 branch15:33
fooobarrridk - systemd is used in >= 15.X ? I haven't used anything newer than 14.xx15:34
ikoniait is15:34
* fooobarrr should read about new things15:34
rexwin_fooobarrr, anything you want to say?15:36
* fooobarrr is reading15:36
princessliz94does anyone think this may help me? http://blog.danielscrivano.com/installing-rtl8812au-on-linux-for-wireless-dual-band-usb-adapters/15:37
princessliz94http://paste.ubuntu.com/15321435/15:39
rschwiebHas http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/ been permanently rewritten without its HTML tables? We used to automate that process to look up the newest AMI, but now the table doesn't appear anymore...15:40
popeyrschwieb: hehe, that's one way to do it :)15:40
snowgooglesprincessliz94: it looks to be the same chipset as yours...so yeah go for it15:41
princessliz94ugh it didn't work. i don't know what i'm doing wrong.15:41
rschwieb@popey I'm open to different ways to perform the lookup15:41
rschwiebpopey: open to other ways of performing the lookup  (sorry, I forget all my IRC stuff)15:42
popeyrschwieb: via https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ maybe?15:43
popeyrschwieb: can't guarantee that page won't change though. I don't know of a better way, unless Amazon themselves have an API for this (surely they do?)15:43
rschwiebpopey: how would you perform a lookup on a javascript generated list?15:43
snowgooglesprincessliz94: run lsmod | grep 8812au15:44
jcastrorschwieb: heya, you had a question about cloud-images?15:44
popeyjcastro: rschwieb is asking the best way to look up images15:44
rschwiebjcastro: hi15:44
rschwiebjcastro: yes, automating the lookup for the most recent image of our specified type15:45
jcastroyep, one sec15:45
rschwiebjcastro: it looks like the webpage we used was changed to break our old method15:45
princessliz94snowgoggles: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15321482/15:46
rschwiebjcastro: the published json list would also be great, but so far it looks like the release lists only list images older than a week.15:46
princessliz94snowgoogles: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15321482/15:46
jcastrorschwieb: you mean the simplestreams data? that's what I was looking up15:46
jcastrorschwieb: ok so you need like a daily?15:46
censorship101i accidentally deleted /bin on an important machine i don't want to re-install is there a tool i can use to try and recover what was rm'd?15:46
somsip!undelete | censorship10115:47
ubottucensorship101: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel15:47
rschwiebjcastro: I 'm not sure about simplestreams, but I was looking into this http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/streams/v1/com.ubuntu.cloud:released:aws.json15:47
ws2k3im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but at downloading installer component i just get a purple screen and then nothing happens what could this be15:47
rschwiebjcastro: yes, the goal is a daily image lookup that is automatable15:47
jcastrorschwieb: this should sort you: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/which-ami-in-aws-does-correspond-to-ubuntu-14-04-2/2195/2?u=jorge_castro15:48
geniicensorship101: Instead of bothering with undeleting things, you'd be better off to boot from an external linux like a livecd, chroot to that affected one, and do a reinstall of al the packages on that system15:48
princessliz94snowgoogles: i'm so sorry, i'm just really confused. this kind of thing is difficult for me. i'm not used to being the one who needs help15:49
censorship101genii, how do you reinstall all packages on the system?15:49
censorship101genii and i'll do that15:49
snowgooglesprincessliz94: that's ok...but reviewed your process...you missed a step15:50
jcastrorschwieb: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/daily/streams/v1/com.ubuntu.cloud:daily:aws.json15:50
jcastrois what I gathered after reading that15:50
princessliz94snowgoogles: see, i don't see that cause i'm not used to this. can you tell me what i missed?15:50
snowgooglesprincessliz94: try entering without quotes "git clone https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux.git"15:51
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princessliz94snowgoogles: it didn't do anything that i can tell?15:52
geniicensorship101: Basic method is shown here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101931/restoring-all-data-and-dependencies-from-dpkg-set-selections15:53
timmyBsdHeyho, could anybody tell my why there the ubuntu kernels doesn't receive any security update? related to the debian update ... https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-350315:53
princessliz94snowgoogles: should i open a new terminal session to help make this look like less of a mess?15:54
jcastrorschwieb: did that work for you?15:54
snowgooglesprincessliz94: let me check the git rep out myself15:56
Ogabekhi15:56
princessliz94snowgoogles: ok. thank you so much for the help.15:57
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snowgooglesprincessliz94: ok...open a new terminal does it display "~$" at the end of your prompt?15:58
PicitimmyBsd: If you look up the CVEs listed there in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/, it appears that most of them are still in the pending status, which means that they are undergoing testing... also, many of them don't apply to the architectures that we provide.15:58
princessliz94snowgoogles: now it does15:58
princessliz94snowgoogles: should i try now?15:59
ws2k3im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but at downloading installer component i just get a purple screen and then nothing happens what could this be15:59
snowgooglesprincessliz94: enter this line https://paste.ubuntu.com/15321570/15:59
EliProwhi hi16:00
EliProwi have a question!!16:01
princessliz94snowgoogles: it did this http://paste.ubuntu.com/15321579/16:01
ws2k3anyone?16:01
EliProwwhat if i fork bombed a ubuntu server16:01
EliProwwould it crash?16:01
rschwiebjcastro: Hi, sorry, was called away from workstation. That looks very promising. I'll look into it now16:01
EliProwor does it have protection?16:01
EliProwanyone?16:02
snowgooglesperfect...now paste this into the same terminal window next https://paste.ubuntu.com/15321582/16:02
EliProwhello?16:02
EliProwplz16:03
EliProwOK i will test16:03
EliProwwait16:03
ws2k3im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but at downloading installer component i just get a purple screen and then nothing happens what could this be16:04
snowgooglesprincessliz94: any luck?16:06
ws2k3i also tryed other mirrors but they have the same issues16:06
princessliz94snowgoogles: you there? everything froze, i think it was unrelated.16:06
snowgooglesprincessliz94: did you run this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/15321582/16:07
zykotick9ws2k3: why 12.04?  four year old software is what you're looking for?16:07
ws2k3zykotick9 yes16:07
princessliz94snowgoogles: not yet. should i try now?16:07
ws2k3zykotick9 but is that relevant? 12.04 is support for another year. and i realy need to finish this install16:08
zykotick9ws2k3: good luck...16:08
ws2k3zykotick9 i tryed 2 different ip ranges. and 3 different mirrors still its failing16:08
snowgooglesprincessliz94: make sure your at prompt ending with "~$" before you do16:08
ws2k3zykotick9 is it maby possible that there is something wrong with the ubuntu repo?16:08
zykotick9ws2k3: sorry, i don't have any suggestions at all...  thus the "good luck"16:09
princessliz94snowgoogles: ok. i am and i just did. it's doing things. should i pastebin the results when it's done?16:09
snowgooglesprincessliz94: the wifi should load up16:09
snowgooglesprincessliz94: your wifi adpater isn't in the mainstream thus why we have to compile a driver for it16:10
princessliz94snowgoogles: it did this https://paste.ubuntu.com/15321647/16:10
princessliz94snowgoogles: i think it finished now it looks like this https://paste.ubuntu.com/15321656/16:11
princessliz94snowgoogles: Oh my god i think it worked!!!!16:13
snowgooglesprincessliz94: is wifi detected now?16:13
princessliz94snowgoogles: yes! but how do i make sure i don't have to do this on startup every time?16:14
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snowgooglesprincessliz94: reboot and test16:14
MonkeyDustprincessliz94  great! now paste all the steps in one document and publish it online, for future reference16:14
princessliz94snowgoogles: alright. i'll be back to let you know how it went16:14
Mac__hi16:16
princessliz94_snowgoogles: i have restarted and am now using wifi!! :D thank you!! would you mind helping me list the steps we went through?16:18
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rschwiebjcastro: I was able to successfully automate recovery from that json... it's probably even faster than the old script! Thanks for getting me to the resource16:23
jcastrorschwieb: for sure you want to use the json files, those are officially supported and quite more robust than parsing tables. :D16:26
rschwiebjcastro: i wholeheartedly agree. Wish we had found the json a year ago when we first wrote it.16:27
dany_hi i have installed ubuntu 15.10 and i cant turn wireless16:29
dany_my wireless is off and i cant turn it on. can anyone help16:31
deeVer_dany_: are you able to connect to the wireless network with another device?16:34
dany_deeVer_ yes my phone16:34
vveinhi! a quick question about packages16:35
vveinI try to rebuild the firefox package with changed flags16:35
deeVer_dany_: ubuntu 15.10 is new. I'm looking at some forums right now.16:35
princessliz94snowgoogles: thanks for all the help, my computer froze again. i think it has something to do with the graphics card. sorry for dropping out so much.16:36
vveinI tried export CFLAGS, append CFLAGS ... in /etc/dpkg/buildconf, nothing seems to be changing the flags used during the compilation16:36
dany_deeVer_  i had same problem with 14.0416:36
deeVer_dany_: did you update your computer after downloading Ubuntu?16:36
vveinI'm using ubuntu 14.0416:37
deeVer_dany_: you want to make sure your computer is fully up-to-date.16:37
dany_no16:37
snowgooglesprincessliz94: how long has your computer been running ubuntu...just recently?16:37
MonkeyDustvvein  start from the beginning, what are you trying to do or achieve16:37
deeVer_dany_: in the terminal type in sudo apt-get update && upgrade16:38
dany_deeVer_  ok let me try16:38
deeVer_dany_: that will fully upgrade your computer. I'd say do that first.16:38
vvein MonkeyDust: I want to recompile firefox with -march=native16:38
vveinmaybe -O3, not sure if it's better than -Os. Disabling -g is another thing I'd like to do, but for adding flags is hard enough for now ;)16:39
MonkeyDustvvein  are you a developer? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-app-devel16:39
vveinMonkeyDust: I'm not an Ubuntu developer. I'd like to take a few steps in that direction though16:40
dany_deeVer_  nothing16:40
deeVer_dany_: sorry, the correct syntax is sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get update16:40
Norbinwhat google-drive solution are you guys using on ubuntu if any?16:40
vveinMonkeyDust: I'll try that channel16:41
zykotick9deeVer_: ahh, your commands are backwards.  update first then upgrade/dist-upgrade.16:41
Mikelevelvvein~ do you use apt-build ?16:41
deeVer_dany_: use this as a guide https: help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-troubleshooting.html16:41
deeVer_zykotick9: that's the correct syntax update then upgrade?16:42
zykotick9deeVer_: yes...  personally i'd switch to using apt instead of apt-get but that's up to you.  "sudo apt-get update" will refresh the repos, followed by "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" if you want to update everything.16:43
zykotick9deeVer_: with apt it would be "sudo apt update" then "sudo apt upgrade" (dist-upgrade isn't really required with apt)16:44
vveinMikelevel: I use dpkg-buildpackage -b -us -uc16:44
deeVer_zykotick9: Why do you like using only sudo apt update versus sudo apt-get update?16:44
zykotick9deeVer_: apt is the new (ie. still getting developed) tool... it's got a few advantages over the old apt-get (like fancy colours and progress bar for one)16:45
zykotick9deeVer_: on ubuntu it's particularly good, 'cause "apt upgrade" will also upgrade kernels, which a "apt-get upgrade" would not... you'd need to use dist-upgrade (which is a very misunderstood command)16:47
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vveinMikelevel: apt-build looks awesome16:50
TweedleDumHey16:53
TweedleDumi'm on xubuntu 15.04 , well I have that as a LiveOS on my other laptop and I want to set up a streaming webcam which the local police department can access via my IP and a port number with a password16:53
MonkeyDustTweedleDum  15.04 is dead .. or is that a typo?16:54
TweedleDumwhat kind of either all in one software would i have to use for that? or do i need to look into how to run streaming audio/video servers...https? ftp?16:54
TweedleDumno actually, and I thought 15.04 was just behind 15.1116:54
TweedleDumheck a lot are still using 14.0416:54
MonkeyDustTweedleDum  i use 14.0416:54
dany_i think my wifi is disabled by hardware switch16:54
TweedleDumOh, so why is 15.04 dead?16:54
b0s3dcan anyone tell me more on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/147418216:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1474182 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "Mystery keyring password prompts pop up for no reason" [High,Confirmed]16:54
TweedleDumcheck rfkill dany_16:54
k1l_TweedleDum: its year.month for ubuntu releases. but 14.,04 got 5 years support16:54
MonkeyDustTweedleDum  irt's called !eol16:54
k1l_!releases | TweedleDum16:54
ubottuTweedleDum: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months (non-LTS) or 5 years (LTS). More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases16:54
TweedleDumOh right so 14.04 is atually the stable release?16:55
TweedleDumi'm not good with OS release terminology16:55
MonkeyDustTweedleDum  it's the LTS16:55
TweedleDumWhat's that mean? long term support?16:55
k1l_TweedleDum: everything is stable. but 14.04 is the LTS, long term support. on the other you need to upgrade every 6months16:55
TweedleDumhmmm16:55
k1l_TweedleDum: look at the links the bot gave you16:55
dany_rfkill?16:56
TweedleDumso is 15.04 more or less just for those who want the newer kernel version?16:56
TweedleDumyeah in terminal do sudo rfkill -h16:56
k1l_TweedleDum: 15.04 is dead right now16:56
MonkeyDustTweedleDum  it's dead, as in: not breathing16:56
TweedleDumrfkill is the command used to toggle the hardware killing of all wireless16:56
TweedleDumok16:56
TweedleDumi'm schizophrenic so i take that literally16:56
TweedleDumtype rfkill list (using su or sudo)16:57
dany_nothing16:57
TweedleDumsee like for me the first one is 1: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no16:57
TweedleDumdid you use sudo or su?16:57
MonkeyDustTweedleDum  16.04 will be released next month16:57
bogart666!releases16:57
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months (non-LTS) or 5 years (LTS). More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases16:57
TweedleDumCool MD16:57
TweedleDumIs it some kind of placebo effect or do OS X and Windows (say since XP or Vista etc) look better just in general than almost any Linux distro?16:58
humbotmore shiny?16:58
TweedleDumI'm not trolling with that question. I'm wondering if somehow Windows has some advantages with AA on fonts or something, or just better fonts by default.16:58
humbotbigger drop shadows?16:58
dany_mine returns help16:58
baizonTweedleDum: well thats is you subjective opinion16:58
TweedleDumOh don't know drop shadows, ill look16:59
humbotthat's what i always notice about osx anyway16:59
TweedleDumah yeah like for the windows themselves. yeah that's def in os x as i recall16:59
dany_usage and commands nothing16:59
TweedleDumand yes it's my opinion but i prefer linux for everything except what it just can't do16:59
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TweedleDumadn that's audio/video (particularly music) recording, production, basically digital audio workstation stuff and things like guitar rig17:00
dany_im helpless17:00
vveinMikelevel: I cannot see any of the flags, that I set in the files or in apt-build configuration, during firefox compilation17:00
TweedleDumwith your wifi?17:00
MonkeyDustTweedleDum  we get it ... now confine yourself to ubuntu support questions17:00
vveinMikelevel: I use apt-build this time17:00
dany_yes17:00
naccTweedleDum: this is a support channel, please take opinions to #offtopic17:00
TweedleDumsorry, i have a bit of tangential thought :( ok17:00
TweedleDumSo, anyone know about me streaming a webcam with my external IP:portnumber being able to access it?17:01
rb_i17:01
TweedleDumKeep in mind the laptop in question only has like 800mb of free space (live OS with dead HDD)17:01
ioria!info motion17:01
ubottumotion (source: motion): V4L capture program supporting motion detection. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.12+git20140228-7 (wily), package size 234 kB, installed size 821 kB17:01
TweedleDumhm that's cool17:02
brunchhey17:02
dany_i think its the drivers im lacking17:02
TweedleDumso i could just like record each day's motion sensitive movements ont he street and then send them to the PD17:02
dany_wireless drivers17:02
TweedleDumbrb family is here17:02
rb_What are you talking about <TweedleDum>17:03
dany_im sorry i cant get wireless on my ubuntu 14.04 and also 15.10 what might be the problem?17:05
snowgooglesdany_: was it working before?17:08
Anthony-Lquestion, when using 'sudo apt install' how do i know which programs are in the que already?17:08
Anthony-Lwhat i mean is, does the CLI automatically search the internet to find what file i want to download?17:08
Anthony-Lhow does it work?17:08
zykotick9Anthony-L: que... what que...  fyi it's "sudo apt install PACKAGENAME"17:08
MonkeyDustAnthony-L  it looks in the repos17:09
jonascjHi all. I am playing around with btrfs and I am trying to find out if you can install ubuntu to a predefined btrfs (i.e. no formatting in "Something else" under partitioning) and use predefined subvolumes as specific mount points?17:09
vveincan someone help me with recompiling a package from source?17:09
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Anthony-Lyea, but is everything in the repos?17:09
vveinI have a problem with adding flags to the compilation17:09
dany_nop only on windows17:09
vveinI tried a few things and nothing seems to work17:09
MonkeyDust!repo | Anthony-L17:10
ubottuAnthony-L: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.17:10
dany_snowgoogles only on windows os17:10
jonascjOut of the box ubuntu's live disk installer install to a btrfs filesystem but seem to require that ubuntu formats it, and create to subvolumes (@ for / and @home for /home). This is what I would liketo define more specifically17:10
MonkeyDustAnthony-L  you can also install something from outside the repos, but that's at your own risk and not supported here17:10
snowgooglesdany_: is it builtin wireless or usb?17:11
vveinMonkeyDust: do you know who supports the build system?17:11
dany_snowgoogles built in17:11
b0s3ddoes anyone have more information on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/147418217:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1474182 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "Mystery keyring password prompts pop up for no reason" [High,Confirmed]17:12
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snowgooglesdany_: provide the output as a pastebin of the following command in a terminal window : lspci17:12
Picivvein: I'd look at the files in debian/rules... but I haven't rebuilt anything in a while17:12
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vveinPici: I tried changing debian/rules, no results ;/17:13
zykotick9vvein: just curious... but what "flag" is it that your trying to add to firefox?17:13
Anthony-Lhow do you guys know what's already available in the repositories? just word of mouth?17:13
vveinzykotick9: -march=native17:13
MonkeyDustAnthony-L  apt-cache search , or use the software center17:14
MonkeyDustAnthony-L  and sometimes we give tips to each other, or we learn it here, in the channel17:14
vveinzykotick9: I'd like to try a few optimization, but that one is the first on the list, I need a proof of concept :)17:14
MonkeyDustAnthony-L  or we find something useful by accident17:14
dany_snowgoogles http://pastebin.com/ed47KprG17:14
Anthony-Lwhen i 'apt-search' nothing comes up. does that mean it's not on the repository?17:15
zykotick9Anthony-L: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is another way to check17:16
markwillisAnthony-L: have you done something like apt-get update (do not remember exactly)17:16
MonkeyDustAnthony-L  try   apt-cache search gftp   <-- example17:16
Anthony-Li haven't done anything. i'm new and trying to learn CLI17:17
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markwillisAnthony-L: try apt-cache update17:18
MonkeyDustAnthony-L  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal17:18
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zykotick9markwillis: ? i get "invalid operation" when i try that...17:18
markwillisOK, so it is not this command or not necessary17:18
Anthony-Lmarkwillis, invalid17:18
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zykotick9Anthony-L: what is it that you are trying to search for exactly?17:19
markwilliswhat happened to ubuntu-offtopic?17:19
Anthony-Lnothing particular17:20
snowgooglesdany_: your wifi adapter is detected as Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)17:20
Anthony-Li'm just a new linux user. i just wanted to search in general.17:20
dany_snowgoogles ??17:20
MonkeyDustAnthony-L  i guess you're better off in #ubuntu-offtopic17:20
BluesKajmarkwillis, it's still available17:20
dany_snowgoogles yes17:20
markwillisBluesKaj: is it necessary to be registered to get there?17:20
Anthony-LmonkeyDust, you've helped me already with the websites.17:21
Anthony-Lthank you17:21
BluesKajmarkwillis, don't think so17:21
dany_snowgoogles solution??17:21
snowgooglesdany_: i would do a search for ubuntu and that adapter specifically and see what others are discovering to get it working17:21
markwillisBluesKaj: I try to get there and I'm being redirected to ubuntu-unreg17:21
markwillisubuntu-unregged17:21
Anthony-Lanother question, navigating my system with the GUI, where do i start?17:22
Anthony-Lwith windows i had the "My Computer" icon.17:22
BluesKajwell then , looks like you have to register, markwillis17:22
markwillisAnthony-L: what GUI do you use?17:22
Anthony-Li'm assuming the default, Unity?17:22
ioriadany_ what laptop is that ? Asus ?17:23
dany_hp17:23
dany_hp g617:23
jonascjAlright, something simpler, is Ubuntu 16 beta/daily available with the alternate installer?17:24
BluesKajjonascj, nope17:24
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Rommeis this the appropriate place to ask about iptables configuration?17:24
jeeves_mosshow do I specify what GPIO pin is used in LinuxPPS?17:25
jonascjBluesKaj: Just found this, maybe it is completely gone with 14.04: http://askubuntu.com/questions/457513/what-happened-to-with-the-alternate-installer-in-ubuntu-14-0417:25
jonascjIs that true, is the alternate installer done for?17:25
BluesKajjonascj, yes, there is a minimal tho17:25
BluesKajdunno about 16.04 having any minimal17:26
Rommei'm an absolute retard and can't figure out how to unblock bittorrent on my server17:26
Rommei've been given a server pre-configured with fail2ban so i need to open up ports every time i install something moderately complicated17:27
Rommeright now i have this in /etc/iptables.rules:17:27
dany_i dont have any options but to use wired connection17:27
Romme-A INPUT -p tcp -m multiport --dports 6881:6999 -j ACCEPT17:27
Rommeis this enough?17:27
ioriadany_  sudo lshw -C Network17:27
jonascjCan ubuntu be installed manually with chroot, copying, mkcpio etc.? If there is no installer with more options than the normal one there is no hope of more advanced btrfsf subvol options using the installers.17:27
galecle!list17:28
ubottugalecle: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».17:28
zykotick9jonascj: <sidenote> you should be asking beta questions in #ubuntu+1 channel17:28
jonascjwho was galecle list-ing?17:29
dany_http://pastebin.com/g8ERJ65A17:29
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jonascjzykotick9: good point, but the question is just as fine for 14.04 :)17:29
dany_ioria http://pastebin.com/g8ERJ65A17:29
ioriadany_  yeah, DISABLED17:29
zykotick9jonascj: well, mini is like debian's netinst... you _should_ be able to get any option from it...17:30
markwillishow do I register a nickserv? Tried to ask it on freenode, but nobody responds and "/msg nickserv" doesn't work17:30
lotuspsychje!register | markwillis17:30
ubottumarkwillis: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode17:30
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dany_ioria how do i enable17:31
markwillislotuspsychje: thank you17:31
jonascjmarkwillis: http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode17:31
MonkeyDustmarkwillis  Type « /msg nickserv register password_of_your_choice your@email.address ». You should pick a decent password, and use a real, valid email address that you have access to.17:31
dany_ioria_ i have tried pressing the wireless button but its not going on17:31
ioriadany_   found a fix for Asus, idk if working on your laptop...   ls  /etc/modprobe.d/    ?17:31
jonascjzykotick9: do you know how to launch that installer instead of the new gui one?17:31
markwillisbtw, do you know why issuing "/command" IRC commands doesn't work in quassel (by not working meaning that the results are either not returned or not seen, I don't know)17:32
zykotick9jonascj: i do not sorry.17:32
zykotick9jonascj: ahhh, mini is a separate iso...17:32
dany_ioria_  http://pastebin.com/pPh9rRh117:33
jonascjzykotick9: I saw some minimal images yes, but those are probably also minimal in other ways than the installer...17:34
zykotick9jonascj: it is.  it downloads the packages from internet.17:34
ioriadany_     cat  /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf       did you create this file or was already there ?17:34
jonascjzykotick9: yup, just read that. That is all fine, now I just need the minimal ubuntu 16 beta/daily image, which I fear do not exist. But I'll research that elsewhere17:35
dany_i think i created it when i was trying many solutions from the web17:35
ioriadany_     cat  /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf17:35
dany_yes i did17:36
ioriadany_     can you paste it  ?17:36
dany_options ath9k nohwcrypt=117:36
dany_only that line17:36
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clocloCiao17:37
cloclo!list17:37
ubottucloclo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».17:37
dany_ioria_17:40
ioriadany_   are you using  network-manager  ?17:41
dany_no17:43
ioriadany_  did you edit   /etc/network/interfaces  then ?17:44
dany_no17:44
ioriadany_  sudo service network-manager status17:44
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dany_http://pastebin.com/VydjYkVz17:46
ioriadany_  sudo service network-manager stop    and   sudo ifconfig wlan0 up   and   sudo dhclient17:47
dany_ioria?17:48
dany_i cant see the network now17:48
MengeleHmm17:48
dany_ioria_ it has dissapeared17:48
dany_icon17:49
Guest68656hi i have disk problem - http://wklejto.pl/24927517:49
ioriadany_     sudo ifconfig wlan0 down   and sudo service network-manager start17:49
Guest68656anyone know what i can do ?17:49
Guest68656http://wklejto.pl/24927317:49
dany_error17:50
MonkeyDustGuest68656  describe your issue, that's easier to read and repeat17:50
Guest68656disk cant by  mounted17:50
ioriadany_     where ? after the 1° or the 2° command ?17:50
Guest68656ext2fs_open2: Bad magic number in super-block17:51
Guest68656this is boot partition17:51
Guest68656ssd disk17:51
dany_http://pastebin.com/kYbdAeY417:51
dany_217:51
ioriadany_     ip a17:52
Guest68656MonkeyDust: You need more info ?17:52
dany_http://pastebin.com/Zu5Pdc8p17:53
ioriadany_     are you with the cable right now ?17:54
dany_yes17:54
ioriadany_     it's not wlan0 is wlo117:54
Guest68656how i can get size of superbloc ?17:54
dany_ok17:55
dany_then?17:55
dany_the network icon is still missing17:56
ioriadany_     you should try to up wlo1   without network-manager to check if the issue is NM, but you'll get disconnected ...  sudo service network-manager stop    and   sudo ifconfig wlo1 up   and   sudo dhclient17:57
cspackGuest68656: /dev/sda5 is a swap partition. what are you trying to do?17:58
ioriadany_     or try wicd17:58
ioria!info wicd17:58
ubottuwicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager - metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.2.4-4.1ubuntu1 (wily), package size 4 kB, installed size 46 kB17:58
Guest68656ok i sse  this no17:59
Guest68656w17:59
Guest68656ok thanks17:59
dany_hey ioria_ i cant see my wireless icon anymore17:59
dany_ioria_ before you leave please help me return it18:00
ioriadany_     you are on another pc or on the hp ?18:00
dany_on hte hp18:00
dany_ioria_ hp18:01
dany_ioria_ how do i return the icon18:01
dany_for wireless18:01
ioriadany_     sudo service network-manager restart or reboot18:01
dany_its back18:02
dany_now ethernet is lost18:03
ioriadany_     ok, maybe the issue is NM,  but to know that for sure you have to stop it and up the wifi interfaces manually18:03
dany_im using tethering18:03
NX9010hey all, is there an easy way to install mint on my laptop while im on xubuntu? :)18:04
NX9010or should I burn a new image? usb booting does not seem to work on my hp nx901018:04
baizonNX9010: #linuxmint18:04
dany_iora how do i return things back to they way they were previously18:04
ioriadany_    ifconfig18:05
dany_my cable is also not working18:05
NX9010okay, thanks baizon, will ask there.18:05
dany_http://pastebin.com/9stL35BA18:05
ioriadany_    ethernet is there18:06
ioriadany_    it's not tethering18:06
dany_iora your right18:08
ioriadany_     i repeat : maybe the issue is NM,  but to know that for sure you have to stop it and up the wifi interfaces manually18:11
dany_ioria_ how do i do that?18:11
ioriadany_    i told you before18:12
dany_ioria_ ok18:12
dany_ioria_ let me leave it alone18:13
dany_ioria_ i dont want to mess anyhting i dont understand18:13
ioriadany_    you don't mess anything .... a service can be stopped and restarted ... no files will be edited18:14
user12312321hey18:14
user12312321it's wrong if i install ubuntu on a virtual machine?18:15
dany_iora_ can you privately teach me linux18:15
user12312321it will run slow?18:15
dany_when you are not busy18:15
xanguauser12312321: if you mean Ubuntu with unity desktop, probably...Try Lubuntu or Xubuntu for your virtual machine18:16
user12312321but can i do dual boot?18:16
user12312321my pc don't want to boot from a USB18:16
user12312321and can't burn a dvd18:16
eurythmiaHey folks; I'm writing an upstart job for autossh ... my autossh command is executed via the "exec" keyword. Upstart correctly runs my pre-start script, and autossh will start and spawn the ssh process, but when I run "status autossh" I get: autossh stop/waiting  ... does anybody have any ideas what might be going on here?18:17
eurythmia... I am running ubuntu 13.10 on this server18:18
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snowgooglesdany_: did you find any ubuntu forums to help resolve your specific wifi device problem?18:20
SeburoHi.  Three day old Ubuntu convert would like a hand installing ClamAV with email protection for Thunderbird and the GUI.  Can anyone help?18:23
baizonSeburo: why? i dont have any av and im on linux for 4 years now18:25
Seburobaizon: Really?  I am being cautious or paranoid?  Should I not have something just in case?18:27
baizonSeburo: well if you dont open every zip then yes18:27
iceroot_Seburo: dont need an AV on GNU/Linux18:27
baizonSeburo: also you can send them in first18:27
SeburoWhat do you mean?18:27
Picieurythmia: You may want to ask in #upstart, also 13.10 reached end of life in 2014. you should really thing about upgrading to 14.04, which has support until 2019.18:29
Seburobaizon: What do you mean by "send them in first"?18:29
baizonSeburo: i mean something like this if youre unsure about your attachment https://www.virustotal.com/18:29
eurythmiaThanks Pici. I'll look into both of those solutions.18:29
xangua! Virus | Seburo18:29
ubottuSeburo: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to Windows computers (perhaps using Samba). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus18:29
Seburoxangua:  Thanks, but it is number seven on that list that concerns me - scanning email going to other people.18:31
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baizonSeburo: thats why i meant unsure18:32
baizonSeburo: else, 99.9% viruses are written for windows, so they cant harm you18:33
baizonSeburo: (of course if you open them with wine you also get in trouble)18:33
Seburobaizon: online scanners are fine, but not handy whan all you want to do is attach and send an email.18:33
baizonSeburo: i havent used that site once, to be honest, just pointing out when you really really want to check18:34
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ZankarrUlEs#ubuntu18:34
daftykinsit's malware today and has been for years, 'virus' is really a 90s concept18:34
eurythmiaPici: I figured out the error ... it's because autossh was being started with '-f' (spawn into the background) ... when it runs in the foreground upstart can properly manage the process.18:35
eurythmiaPici: ... I'm still going to ask about upgrading this machine ... 13.10 is wayyy too old ;-)18:35
Seburobaizon: I knew I was going to be at lower risk with gnu/linux, but using a computer without anti malware is a very weird feeling.18:36
lapyolol18:36
baizonSeburo: you will get used to it ;) i also wanted at the beginning to use an AV18:37
lapyowhat's anti malware18:37
squintySeburo,  might want to check out the official Thunderbird irc channel at  irc.mozilla.org #thunderbird18:37
Seburobaizon: have you had any malware issues?18:37
baizonSeburo: like i said, not once, and its 4 years, and 5 machines18:38
Seburosquinty: I will do, they are a great team.18:38
* squinty muses "bet there are a number of Apple users who thought that too."18:39
daftykinsevery OS is susceptible to browser based malware, so just for running Linux you can't get too cocky18:39
Seburosquinty: lol18:39
jeeves_mossdoes anyone have the settings for WVdial for Telus?18:39
Seburodaftykins: so what is the ubuntu solution?18:40
daftykinsfor what18:40
Seburodaftykins: to make sure you are protected?18:42
* Seburo blames Microsoft for the paranoia.18:43
daftykinsnothing.18:43
jeeves_mossis there a way to add WVdial to the interfaces file?18:43
daftykinsSeburo: that's a stupid statement18:43
Seburodaftykins:  apologies, I was a bit harsh.  But to be using an OS that does not need am software having come from something where it is jolly handy is very weird.18:44
daftykinsSeburo: strange, i just said that all OSs are susceptible to hassle in the browser and yet you say that18:45
daftykinsho-hum18:45
Seburodaftkins:  Oh, I see what you mean.  Ubuntu still susceptible in browswer, but outside of that it has a different risk profile?18:46
daftykinsthan Windows, yes.18:47
Seburodaftykins: Got it.  Still feels weird, but alongside the quality of this software, the lack of clutter and the really nice interface, it is another thing to smile about. :-)18:50
daftykinsif you say so, i don't use it18:51
Seburodaftkins: you do not use ubuntu?18:52
daftykinsnot desktop, no18:53
SeburoThank you for your help, bye.18:55
Anthony-Lhow do you exit the CLI?19:02
ioriaAnthony-L, you mean the console ?  sudo service lightdm restart19:03
daftykinsor a TTY? "exit"19:04
jeeves_mossis there a way to tail in php a /dev device?  I'd like to have the last 20 lines from /dev/ttyS4 being displayed on a web page19:06
Anthony-Lioria, no, like just the terminal.19:11
Anthony-Lhow do i just exit out?19:11
ioriaexit19:11
TweedleDumIt's possible to tune a piano in the key of C just intonation with minimal dissonance on the major 3rd and 5th19:11
TweedleDumoh .. wrong room19:11
SeveasTweedleDum: sudo dpkg-reconfigure piano :)19:11
TweedleDumlol19:12
Anthony-Lioria, okay, let me explain..19:12
Anthony-Li opened a terminal and typed in 'top' to see my computer resource usage. how would i exit out of that terminal now?19:12
TweedleDumthere are some synthesizers for linux which are cool actually...the only instruments which can play in all 12 of the keys (chromatic scale) in perfect intonation are 1) multiple human voices and 2) synthesizer19:12
ioriaAnthony-L,  q19:12
TweedleDumThere's an Analog Modeling Synth for linux...it's in the xbuntu repos19:13
Anthony-Lioria, okay, that stopped it. how to exit manually?19:13
Anthony-Loh! i typed exit,duh.19:13
Anthony-Lthat did it19:13
TweedleDumcontrol c will do it too19:13
ioriaAnthony-L,  ok19:13
Anthony-Lioria, thank you19:13
ioriaAnthony-L,  no p19:13
TweedleDumwithin the terminal window Ctrl + C closes basially whatever's running19:14
snowgooglesAnthony-L: if you are more GUI inclined install system monitor...but it uses up more resources than top19:15
Anthony-Li'm trying to get more familiar with the CLI19:15
Anthony-Li've been handicapped by Windows my whole life. :(19:15
TweedleDumhah19:15
snowgooglesAnthony-L: understand completely19:15
MonkeyDustAnthony-L  in a terminal, type bb, then hit enter19:15
TweedleDumEh they all serve their purpose, my humble opinion.19:16
Anthony-Li'm really enjoying ubuntu right now. i love the simplicity.19:16
snowgoogleslearn to sort your top fields then19:16
Anthony-Lsort my top fields?19:16
TweedleDumWhat would be cool to see would be more non-unix-based free and or open source OS's (kernels basically)19:16
TweedleDumYeah Anthony *buntu is a very clean friendly OS, whatever one you may have.19:16
TweedleDumIs this your first Linux distro?19:16
Anthony-Lyes19:17
TweedleDumCool. Welcome, then19:17
snowgooglesrun top again..then press f to filter sort based on the field ie. res memory usage highlight it press "s" to set then q to go back into top with a new sort order you set19:17
TweedleDumYou may like this page on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions19:17
TweedleDumNote if you sort the distributions by the number of precompiled binaries, Ubuntu basically almost takes the cake in sheer numbers.19:17
TweedleDumI recommend putting together a good repository list for software.19:18
snowgooglesAnthony-L: If you want coolness factor checkout conky and conky-manager...google some screenshots...19:19
TweedleDumWhat do you have Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc? And which version19:19
alkisgAnthony-L: did 16.04 work for you?19:19
MonkeyDustjeeves_moss  this looks promising to do what you want, takes a while to install, tho ... http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man1/a2x.1.html19:20
TweedleDumWell anthony-l in any case - https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ < it's not officially endorsed by Ubuntu but for me it has worked on whatever releases I've had of Ubuntu, and flavors etc. Go through and chek off everything19:20
Anthony-Li know i'm not suppose to be in here if i'm running 16.0419:21
Anthony-Lthat's what i have though19:21
daftykinsno, pick what you actually use ;) don't just get everything19:21
daftykinsAnthony-L: then off to #ubuntu+1 you go.19:21
TweedleDumWell 16.04 is on that generator :)19:21
Anthony-Ldaftykins, i'm asking general ubuntu questions though.19:21
alkisgAnthony-L: I'm only asking because I proposed it to you because of your graphics issues19:21
Anthony-Li'm not asking anything directed specifically toward 16.0419:21
alkisgAnd I didn't get to know if it works on your nvidia or not19:21
TweedleDumI check off myself Main, Restricted, Universe, Multiverse, actually all that19:22
Anthony-Lalkisg, it worked! i'm really happy with it.19:22
alkisgCool19:22
TweedleDumincluding 'source' of each one, but for third party just be selective based on what you want.19:22
TweedleDumhave you used apt-get at all yet?19:22
Anthony-Lyes19:22
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TweedleDumok cool so you're famiilar with some of the basics19:22
daftykinsAnthony-L: sometimes they're general, sometimes they're general that are getting hit by a specific bug... there's a fine line -19:22
Guest1926hello19:22
TweedleDumand you know how to compile from source?19:23
jeeves_mossMonkeyDust: thanks.  I'll have a look at that.  right now, I'm trying to get a circlur logging program installed.  I'm trying to dump the GPS data to an external log file so I can use logstash-forwarder19:23
TweedleDumif you had say a .tar.gz of a program which wasn't in the repos or you wishe to compile yourself19:23
Guest1926i have a fresh in stall of ubuntu 14.04 how cani create password for root ?19:23
Anthony-LtweedleDum, someone showed me how, but i haven't memorized anything just yet. :) it's very overwhelming.19:23
TweedleDumyeah guest192619:23
TweedleDumtype sudo passwd19:23
TweedleDumsudo passwd whateverpassyouwant19:23
alkisgGuest1926: usually it's not needed, are you sure you need one?19:23
TweedleDumthat'll set your root pass which you use for both sudo and su19:24
TweedleDumit's disouraged in the Ubuntu culture though19:24
TweedleDumThe convenience is you can have a su session in the terminal and not have to type your password every 2 minutes.19:24
alkisgsudo -i gives you a root session as well19:25
TweedleDumThe downsides are as su you've got full root privs and *can* screw things up, but if you anticipate things you should be safe. Just definitely imho avoid logging in as the root user.19:25
TweedleDumFor a full session.19:25
* alkisg has seen ubuntu installations getting hit by viruses because they set root password=1234 :)19:25
gderyhow do i delete software completely using the terminal in ubuntu?19:25
TweedleDumoh cool alkisg. is there any downside to making your own root password and not using it for su?19:25
TweedleDumapt-get purge19:26
Guest1926when i enter su in terminal it wants me password what should i enter?19:26
naccgdery: `apt-get purge pkgname`19:26
TweedleDumsudo apt-get purge <whateverprogram>19:26
MonkeyDustjeeves_moss  here's what you do: tail -n 2 [your file] > output_file; a2x -f chunked output_file19:26
daftykinsalkisg: well that's strange, because root doesn't have a password as default on ubuntu... so that'd have to be naive users making foolish changes.19:26
alkisgTweedleDum: if you set a root password, it (used to be) valid for any type of login, even ssh... I think they've changed that recently though19:26
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TweedleDumThere is no password by default at all?19:27
TweedleDumWonder how they did that19:27
alkisgdaftykins: it was a 70-year old debian sysadmin, installing ubuntu in schools the way he was used to from debian19:27
Guest1926when i enter su in terminal it wants me password what should i enter?19:27
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TweedleDumOh I see alkisg I was curious about that. I guess a good iptables setup along with something like pgl (peerguardian) would make that safer.19:27
daftykinsTweedleDum: because you sudo to root, so it either has a super long auto generated one that's not shared - or none in essence19:27
TweedleDumOh right, i was thinking maybe a very long autogen pass yea19:28
Guest1926daftykins, why it wants a password?19:28
daftykinsGuest1926: you don't use 'su' on Ubuntu.19:28
gderywhat's that shorter command to remove program beginning with ~19:28
TweedleDumSo by default in Ubuntu your sudo password is the one for your user account right?19:28
alkisgGuest1926: sudo `sudo -i` isntead19:28
gderyerase?19:28
jeeves_mossMonkeyDust: will that work in a headless system?  How would I set that up to it runs at boot?19:28
alkisg*use19:28
TweedleDumI use the stupidest root password... toor19:28
daftykinsTweedleDum: if that user is an admin yes19:28
TweedleDum(yes, i know)19:28
jeeves_mossMonkeyDust: this is what I'm fighting with right now.  http://www.circlemud.org/jelson/software/emlog/19:28
TweedleDumOh ok dafty. Ty19:29
BingoHello.  I understand to select "Install from the liveCD, not TRY Ubuntu, to put the Ubuntu onto a partition of it's own ?19:29
TweedleDumHere's a question I have actually: Is there actually anything that Kali *does* which U/K/Xbuntu can't do?19:29
Guest1926alkisg, sudo `sudo -i`19:30
Guest1926[sudo] password for mohammad:19:30
Guest1926root@mohammad-LIFEBOOK-AH532-G21:~#19:30
TweedleDumLike people seem to think for pentesting wifi you need Kali. Yet, Ubuntu runs mk3, aircrack-ng suite, kismet... all perfectly19:30
geniiHm, root19:30
TweedleDumThat shows you've logged in as root.19:30
alkisgGuest1926: the first "sudo" there was supposed to be "use", I typed wrong. So, to gain root, use: sudo -i19:30
alkisgGuest1926: now you are root, you can do what you would do with "su -"19:31
TweedleDumBy the way type <exit> to get out of the root session in the terminal without closing the terminal window.19:31
Bingobcbc around any ?19:31
TweedleDumHaven't seen them19:31
Guest1926alkisg,  su -19:32
Guest1926Password:19:32
Guest1926su: Authentication failure19:32
daftykinsi said don't use su.19:32
alkisgGuest1926: right, don't use su19:32
TweedleDumIs it stupi to tell Xubuntu to load both Gnome and KDE things on startup?19:32
TweedleDumAlso, what's the difference between an XFCE session and Xubuntu Session19:32
TweedleDumCan't figure that one out.19:32
daftykinskind of odd to run xubuntu and have anything gnome or KDE even installed.19:33
TweedleDumWhy?19:33
alkisgBingo: install from live cd means to only show the installer, not the unity menus etc.19:33
Guest1926sudo -i19:33
daftykinsextra cruft.19:33
Guest1926root@mohammad-LIFEBOOK-AH532-G21:~#19:33
TweedleDumgnome and KDE software both work with XFCE19:33
TweedleDumfor the most part.19:33
daftykinsGuest1926: yep. please don't paste so much though, we didn't need to know that19:33
Bingoalkisg - I am trying to avoid wubi19:33
Guest1926daftykins, okay excuse me19:33
TweedleDummaybe i'm wrong but it seems to me XFCE lacks its own specific software, but perhaps the stuff i use that's native to gnome like gparted is modified for xfce19:33
alkisgBingo: either create a partition for ubuntu, or use virtualbox19:33
jonascjDo the current live images include a text installer you could start by changing TTY on install (away from ctrl+alt+f7 or ctrl+alt+f1 to e.g. ctrl+alt+f3) and run "./tui-install" or similar?19:33
TweedleDumYes19:34
TweedleDumOr VMWare Workstation 1219:34
TweedleDumIf you install virtualbox don't forget to install the kernel headers19:34
alkisgjonascj: I don't think ubiquity has a text version, no. So I don't think the live images have what you say19:34
Bingoalkisg - a partition, and where does Ubuntu come from?19:35
TweedleDumWell, nevermind, the software center will take care of it.19:35
daftykinsjonascj: you tend to get different media if you want text install19:35
jonascjthere is this "ubuntu d-i" which is the "debian installer". But I can't figure out how to get hold of it19:35
alkisgBingo: I don't understand your question, maybe you need to reask it with more context19:35
daftykinsjonascj: why do you want text install?19:35
TweedleDumYou're trying to change package managers?19:35
TweedleDumoh.19:35
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Bingoalkisg - If I do not install from liveCD "Try" then what do I do?19:36
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linuxloveGallomimia,19:36
TweedleDumDoes anyone know a good easy to use (GUI) alt to the Windows data loss prevention program called19:37
TweedleDumUh, ok.. schizophrenia is making me blank19:37
alkisgBingo: there are two options there, "try it" or "install it". In "try it" you get a live session where you can try ubuntu or even install it. With "install it" you only get the installer. In both cases the installation is the same.19:37
TweedleDumDevicelock19:37
daftykins"data loss prevention" - what do you mean by this? i admin windows and have no idea what you're saying19:37
Bingoalkisg - I used liveCD, and it installed putting wubi on, and I cannot use it.19:38
OddDuckIs there a place I can look at and tweak the settings of a connection defined with nm-openvpn (network-manager-openvpn)19:38
TweedleDumWell daftykins DLP is a bit complicated to understand19:38
TweedleDumor explain but19:38
BingoI mean, the install worked, but the dual-boot is messed up19:38
alkisgBingo: wubi only appeared in previous versions and only if you ran it inside windows. So, boot from the live cd without running it from inside windows.19:38
TweedleDumWhat that software does is lock down things like physical ports and also various protocols19:38
daftykinsTweedleDum: ah yes, how will i with my feeble working in IT for 20 years mind possibly understand...19:38
daftykins;)19:38
daftykins!wubi19:39
ubottuWubi was a way to install Ubuntu from within Windows, but it is no longer supported in recent versions of Ubuntu and was never well maintained even for Ubuntu 12.04. Do not use Wubi. See !install for other options for installing Ubuntu.19:39
jonascjdaftykins: I've read that the ubuntu text based install should be similar (if not the same) as the debian text installer, and it might have more partitioning options than the current gui installer. Specifically I am choosing btrfs subvolume ids during partitioning / mount-pointi-ing. So I wanted to check out this "text installer" or "debian-install19:39
jonascjer"19:39
TweedleDumThe way it does it is by controlling that stuff via basially a different admin account from what I an tell19:39
TweedleDumWell I don't know daftykins if you are an IT pro and haven't heard of DLP I'm surprised, not to be rude19:39
TweedleDumBut it's on the A+19:39
BingoOIC.. alkisg - I boot the livecd from power-on, then?19:39
daftykinsTweedleDum: that course is a joke.19:39
alkisgBingo: bingo!19:39
TweedleDumNot really, no19:39
Bingoit wont use wubi ?19:39
alkisgNo, it won't19:39
TweedleDumhttp://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/data-loss-prevention-DLP19:39
daftykinsNOBODY should use WUBI.19:39
BingoKool beanies !!!!19:40
TweedleDumlol19:40
daftykinsjonascj: server media or mini.iso can do this, but you should be able to use any and all tools within desktop to get btrfs stuff going, then just pick the mount points to install to19:40
TweedleDumWell some of it's kind of tedious I guess but I went over the professor messer youtube vids for it daf... and do you IT pros actually memorize like every standard type of motherboard?19:40
daftykinsTweedleDum: i mean i know of Microsoft's Data Protection Manager... but...19:40
Bingodaftykins - um, yeah. if wubi gots update, or if g4dos would work.. then gpt/uefi systems would be ok19:41
daftykinsBingo: it's abandoned, if you try and use WUBI you will get no support here19:41
daftykinsit's an abomination :)19:41
TweedleDumWell there's DLP which is in some professional IT equipment, like standalone DLP machines19:41
Bingotechnical. it is there19:41
daftykinsTweedleDum: nope not the same thing - this is quite off topic now as well, so lets steer it back to ubuntu support only.19:42
Bingoit (wubi) put ubuntu on my windows19:42
TweedleDumhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_loss_prevention_software there that's a lot better if you're actually curious still19:42
daftykinsBingo: ok well you're here now and it's unsupported, so you'll need to reinstall properly to get some help19:42
alkisgBingo: btw, which ubuntu version did you install? I thought it wasn't there at all in recent versinos...19:42
Bingoeh.. well, I am about to rip out wubi, and install.. so wish me luck !19:43
daftykinsTweedleDum: right so it's a term and not actually a specific feature name - fair enough19:43
Bingowhich means.. loosing all i got here so far.19:43
jonascjdaftykins: Sure I can move things around after installation (rename subvols, create new, copy files, modify fstab etc.), but it just feels like you should be able to do it during install - maybe with this text installer19:43
TweedleDumYeah daftykins like I said I'm schizophrenic so a program like Devicelock Pro at least makes me not stay up all night packet sniffing in wireshark...and then wondering if I need to buy an osciloscope and undertand binary to be sure the CIA isnt spying on me....19:44
TweedleDumbut yes off topic.. unless anyone knows of a linux alt :) im gonna ask around online now.19:44
daftykinsTweedleDum: i take it you're in your teens from that utterly ridiculous spiel19:44
Bingotweedle a bit paranoid?19:45
TweedleDumI wish.. I'm 27.19:45
daftykinssorry but i'm going to have to ignore you now, that was ridiculous19:45
TweedleDumOn and off. Oh I don't are, there are plenty of judgemental women on irc.19:45
Bingoi'm scared to do this. gulp19:46
TweedleDumheh... I was actually being serious but just making light of what actually happens.19:47
* TweedleDum observes the crickets19:47
Bingothanks alkisg19:47
* TweedleDum chuckles19:51
TweedleDumWell, now I know where this train's emergency brake is19:51
MonkeyDustTweedleDum  drop the random remarks19:52
TweedleDumOk I will.19:52
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daxFor the avoidance of doubt: 1) This is an Ubuntu support channel, and only Ubuntu support is allowed here. 2) We have #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat, 3) Schizophrenia is not a "get out of channel guidelines" card, and if your mental state makes you unable to correctly use the channel, please do not use the channel.19:53
DrManslave[MD]I don't want to get out of the guidelines. I just like to explain to people why I'm a little "off" sometimes. I'm happy to follow your rules and will join the other channel too.19:54
markwillisWhen reading about upstart I also come across the phrase that "events are generated by the kernel". Wouldn't be it more appropriate to say that events are generated by the kernel in response to some real events?19:54
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linuxlovehello19:54
linuxlovehow can i open port 22 for just one user in ubuntu 14.04?19:55
DrManslave[MD]" Some confusion seems to arise since the messages Upstart uses to start and stop services are called "events", and udev receives a different type of "events" from the kernel. "19:55
DrManslave[MD]linuxlove: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/145929/how-to-ensure-ssh-port-is-only-open-to-a-specific-ip-address19:56
daxlinuxlove: see the "AllowUsers section in man sshd_config19:56
DrManslave[MD]sshd_config add AllowUsers root@[Your_Home_IP]19:57
DrManslave[MD]then the second line: PermitRootLogin without-password19:58
linuxlovei cant see /etc/sysconfig/iptables19:59
daftykinsDrManslave[MD]: no, we do not tell people to permit root login in here.. that's idiotic19:59
markwillis<DrManslave[MD]: yes, it's what I meant, I think19:59
markwillisdaftykins: it depends on him, I think20:00
drkjstrAnother option is to disallow password authentication in sshd_config, and have the user use an RSA Key.20:00
daftykinsi don't think you should permit any level of remote root login - it's trivial to connect in via a standard user then sudo up if you need to20:01
linuxlovei cant see /etc/sysconfig/iptables20:01
daftykinsthat's a statement, not a support question20:01
linuxlovedaftykins, i am not here to learn grammer20:02
cryptomonkHow can you have Ubuntu 14.04 reconfigure and get X to work again as it did on initial install?20:02
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cryptomonkI fucked up by trying to install CUDA and nvidia drivers which apparently my card doesnt support too old.20:03
cryptomonknow X is borked20:03
daftykinslinuxlove: that's not my point, we don't know what you're after - we can ASSUME - but it's better that you just ask properly the first time.20:03
Delviencryptomonk: have you tried using additional drivers app to install the ones that ubuntu auto-detected for you?20:03
alkisgcryptomonk: remove all nvidia packages and rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf...20:03
daftykins!language | cryptomonk20:03
ubottucryptomonk: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList20:03
cryptomonkI dont know how to get ubuntu to detect drivers20:03
cryptomonksorry20:04
daftykinssudo apt-get purge nvidia*20:04
cryptomonkok all nvidia stuff has been purged20:04
cryptomonkI even tried installing the nouveu firmware and nouveau xorg -trusty20:04
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Delviencryptomonk: run "software-properties-gtk" via alt-f2, or in a term however you normally run commands20:05
cryptomonkI dont have X so doing his from cli20:05
cryptomonkIm comfortable w/ the commandline20:05
DelvienI see.20:05
daftykinsjust reboot.20:05
cryptomonkk20:05
daftykinsthe nouveau stuff sounds like you find a funky guide online? :)20:06
cryptomonklightdm comes up but as soon as I login (at 640x480) it instantly crashes and goes back to login20:06
daftykinsthat's now, or before?20:06
cryptomonkno I just remember when I first went down this venture the CUDA installer said it was removing nouveau20:06
alkisgDid you remove xorg.conf?20:06
cryptomonkyes... rebooting20:06
cryptomonkok same thing20:07
cryptomonkloging crash20:07
cryptomonker login20:07
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markwillishttp://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/upstart_cookbook.pdf "For example, if the job is currently in state starting, and its goal is start, it will then move to the pre-start state" - how does the table which is shown above implies it, would you explain?20:08
Delviencryptomonk: did you make a backup of xorg.conf before you messed around?20:09
cryptomonkno20:09
Delvienif not the tool might of20:09
alkisgcryptomonk: and what does /var/log/Xorg*.log.old say about the crash?20:09
daftykinsmarkwillis: are you sure it's worth studying the old system?20:09
cryptomonkbut whatever xorg I had originally was autogenerated by Ubuntu on  install20:09
markwillisdaftykins: is upstart no longer used?20:09
alkisgThere's no xorg.conf by default20:09
daftykinsmarkwillis: nope, systemd now20:09
cryptomonksays something about nvidia card supports use 304 something,  then falling back to FBDEV20:10
markwillisdaftykins: oh, another novelty...20:10
daftykins(in 15.04, 15.10 and 16.04)20:10
markwillisdaftykins: but these are not LTS20:10
Delviencryptomonk:  "locate xorg.conf" and see if there is a "backup" somewhere20:10
alkisgcryptomonk: what's the output of: dpkg -l '*nvidia*' | grep ^ii20:10
cryptomonkfinal error is "(EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Invalid argument"20:10
Delviencryptomonk: anyway, good luck, gotta get back to work :)_20:10
daftykinsmarkwillis: then you're either EOL or looking at the wrong tech still20:10
markwillisdaftykins: why "at the wrong tech" ?20:11
cryptomonknothing20:11
daftykinsmarkwillis: what version systems are you dealing with?20:11
markwillisdaftykins: 14.0420:11
cryptomonk14.04 is EOL?20:12
alkisgcryptomonk: did you also install nvidia without using a package manager? e.g. by some-installer.bin?20:12
daftykinsthat *is* LTS and is the last release still on upstart20:12
cryptomonkalkisg yes tried using the .deb from the nvidia site20:12
cryptomonkthen apt-get install cuda20:12
daftykinsnever download from nvidia.20:12
cryptomonkthen that went south so I removed that, then downloaded the NVIDIA-352.bin and used that20:12
daftykinsalso a mistake20:13
daftykinsdeal with packages only :) from ubuntu's own repos20:13
cryptomonkhow I finally found out my version wasn't supported and had to use the 304 package, then that complained about having another system installed20:13
markwillisdaftykins: so upstart still lives20:13
alkisgcryptomonk: find uninstall instructions for that NVIDIA-352.bin20:13
cryptomonkdaftykins: but it doesnt support CUDA20:13
cryptomonkat this point dont care about cuda just want my system to work20:13
markwillisis there an error in the table or in the text or it is that I just don't understand something?20:13
daftykinsmarkwillis: yep but if you're taking the time to learn, just bear in mind it'll not be of any use once 14.04 is gone20:13
cryptomonkWhat is the LTS version now? thought it was 14.04 I might just wipe this machine20:14
markwillisdaftykins: OK, but it is of use right now20:14
compdoc14.04, yes. soon to be 16.0420:14
daftykins12.04 and 14.04 are LTS... 16.04 is out next month20:14
alkisgdaftykins: doesn't 16.04 also use upstart inside the user sessions?20:15
daftykinspass.20:15
* alkisg would love it if it didnt... :-/20:15
markwillisOK, could someone tell me if I don't understand that table correctly or if there is just a mistake?20:16
kkiHi,20:21
reisiohi20:23
Seveasdaftykins: it does :(20:23
skypcehello all20:24
skypcehttp://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/how-to-save-and-restore-unity-session.html20:24
reisiohi20:25
skypcei want add the "session save" command before close all applications20:25
skypcehow can i do it please?20:25
daftykinsSeveas: was that in response to the question i said 'pass' to? if so, perhaps the person asking it is the better recipient :)20:26
Seveasyes. And that person left :)20:26
skypcei am talking about keep all windows opened when you reboot or logout the machine20:27
skypceany idea is welcome20:28
skypce:)20:28
kkiCan anyone help me to find out why the network-manager not use the eth0? I used wifi before and it works well, but tomorrow my isp going to connect my home to the optical network, so i need to use my lan card. Now I connect the lan cable, and nothing happen, if i set interfaces to eth0 auto dhcp manualy netowk-manager says it not managed, but still no connection. So please...20:28
DrManslave[MD]check ifconfig?20:29
bekkskki: does you modem/route provide dhcp addresses to clients?20:29
DrManslave[MD]see if its listed there20:29
DrManslave[MD]if its not type iwconfig and see the interface name then iwconfig <interface> up20:29
BluesKajkki, blame systemd , run ip addr to see your ethernet name20:29
Seveaskki: remove it completely from /etc/network/interfaces20:29
NoCodeHi, where is apt.conf located?20:29
DrManslave[MD]<whereis>20:30
NoCodeI used locate, but it doesn't show.20:30
Seveaskki: and then follow the usual troubleshooting processes (do you ahve link, does dhcp work, can you ping your gateway, can you ping 8.8.8.8, does DNS work...)20:30
DrManslave[MD]try whereis?20:30
skypceNoCode,20:30
SeveasNoCode: it's in /etc/apt20:30
DrManslave[MD]:)20:30
NoCodeOkay thanks sir.20:31
NoCodeCheers.20:31
SeveasNoCode: and if it isn't you don't have it :)20:31
skypcetry to do a sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager;sudo apt-get install network-manager20:31
DrManslave[MD]yeah20:31
bekksskypce: This isnt windows. It will not help.20:31
DrManslave[MD]it actually can.20:31
Seveasbekks++20:31
bekksDrManslave[MD]: On Windows.20:31
DrManslave[MD]Only on windows does reinstalling something after completely removing all traces of it help?20:31
DrManslave[MD]No20:31
skypcetime ago i fix the network manager of this way20:32
skypcei was delete the package by error20:32
xanguaNot a good idea to remove network manager either... skypce20:32
NoCodeYeah. It's not there.20:32
kkiI'll be back :)20:32
skypcehey20:32
NoCodeIs there something I should install to get the apt.conf to show up?20:32
SeveasNoCode: then you don't have it :) You can create it if you want to add some manual configuration, or look in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ for config snippets added by Ubuntu20:33
skypcethe package is this20:33
skypcenetwork-manager-gnome20:33
NoCodeSeveas: I'm just trying to set recommends and suggests to 020:33
SeveasNoCode: but don't edit things in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/, if you want to add your own config, just create /etc/apt/apt.conf20:33
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skypcei remember that time ago i was made .conf modifications, but with network-manager-gnome configure all that you need20:34
skypcesudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager-gnome20:34
skypceit manage by default via dhcp20:35
NoCodeHow would the syntax be for the file? "APT::Install-Recommends 0" APT::Install-Suggests 0"20:35
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Seveassuggests is 0 by default, APT::Install-Recommends "false";20:35
skypceNoCode,  use synaptic20:35
Seveasskypce: can you please stop with the nonsense advice?20:35
NoCodeCurrent'y I'm in a tty.20:35
skypceok20:36
shlanthi all. noticed a bunch of zombie ssh processes on my servers. I usually use ~. to exit ssh sessions. Would that cause the zombies? if not what would? network connection loss? is there a way to prevent the zombie build up?20:36
Seveasshlant: yes, that would cause the zombies. Just log out.20:36
Seveastype exit, or hit <ctrl>d20:36
NoCodeSeveas: "APT::Install-Recommends "false";" with or without the semi-colon?20:37
skypceNoCode, did you try with aptitude?20:38
skypceaptitude works in console20:38
SeveasNoCode: with.20:38
NoCodeOkay, thanks sir.20:38
bekksskypce: As does apt-get, apt, and dpkg.20:38
shlantSeveas: dang! alright, good to know, thanks!20:39
anonymoushii20:41
anonymousxd20:41
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Guest22331holaa20:41
HanKtheRobot4Where is the Ubuntu Borg today?20:43
SeveasHanKtheRobot4: delta quadrant20:43
HanKtheRobot4320:43
MonkeyDustyou will be assimilated20:43
HanKtheRobot43 is the first prime number20:44
HanKtheRobot4and it also happens to singularity too.20:44
HanKtheRobot4Ai20:44
HanKtheRobot4ubuntubot:20:44
HanKtheRobot4ubuntudroid:20:45
HanKtheRobot4ubuntuandroid:20:45
Ben64HanKtheRobot4: stop.20:45
HanKtheRobot4ubuntuai:20:45
SeveasHanKtheRobot4: cut it out.20:45
HanKtheRobot4one of your devs has been harrassing people and sending PM's saying he is the Ubuntu Droid.20:45
HanKtheRobot4he works at IBM20:45
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HanKtheRobot4and he is also an Ubuntu dev20:46
HanKtheRobot4I think Canonical should look into this.20:46
bekksHanKtheRobot4: So contact Canonical then.20:46
bekksHanKtheRobot4: This is the volunteer support community, not the Canonical support.20:46
Seveasbekks: they still don't pay you? :)20:47
bekksSeveas: Nah :)20:47
HanKtheRobot4bekks: I already contacted Canonical but he not part of Canonical.20:48
HanKtheRobot4he is part of your volunteer team.20:48
Seveasneither me. Though I did get invited to some ubuntu conferences a decade ago :)20:48
HanKtheRobot4oh well, I guess he was just having fun and watching too much Star Trek this past weekend.20:48
HanKtheRobot4no harm done, I love Ubuntu!20:48
HanKtheRobot4thanks for your efforts ;-)20:49
richieaccGreetings. I have just installed Ubuntu Mate on my new RaspberryPi 3. It's amazing. I'm loving this combo. I'm trying to program my Arduino from it. In Arduino IDE I'm getting the error, "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified." I've figured that I need to add something to the sudoers config file. But I'm not sure what command needs to be added. I've put a tail on /var/log/auth.log, and that shows the authentication attempt20:49
HanKtheRobot4have a good day.20:49
Seveasrichieacc: how are you executing sudo?20:50
daftykins#ubuntu-arm might be of use since that's a Pi.20:50
Seveasrichieacc: it wants your password but has no way to ask you for one.20:50
richieaccSeveas: it is run internally by the Arduino IDE.20:50
genii!info ssh-askpass:arm20:50
ubottuPackage ssh-askpassarm does not exist in wily20:50
richieaccIf I run the IDE from the console, then the console asks me for a password at that point, then it works, so I am certain that adding the correct command to sudoers will do the trick.20:51
Seveasrichieacc: Add this near the top of sudoers: Path askpass /usr/bin/ssh-askpass20:51
Seveasrichieacc: or change your authorization line in sudoers not to require a password (not recommended)20:52
richieaccdaftykins, that is usefull, though this is not a pi specific question. Thanks.20:52
richieaccNooo, not recommended at all.20:52
richieaccPath with uppercase P?20:52
Seveasaccording to the mancage yes20:52
imrektpastebinit isn't working on Ubuntu Server 14.04?20:52
Seveashmm, mancage. Horrible typo :D20:52
richieaccok... lemme try that...20:52
bekksimrekt: Works fine for me.20:53
daftykinsrichieacc: it actually is based on package availability20:53
imrektI just installed it and tried it out it does nothing20:53
bekksimrekt: How did you try it?20:53
imrektI was trying to pastebin a problem first20:54
Seveaskoekblik:~$ echo 'Hi imrekt!' | pastebinit20:54
Seveashttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15323429/20:54
MonkeyDustimrekt  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323433/20:54
imrektI use && :P20:54
richieaccSeveas: it is not liking that line20:54
salamanderrakehow do I find out why packages are being held back during and upgrade?20:54
Seveasimrekt: that doesn't work of course...20:54
bekksimrekt: that will not work.20:55
imrekt| worked but it's saying I'm trying to send a empty document20:55
richieaccAh, package not installed...20:55
richieaccFixing...20:55
daftykinsyour command is bad, then20:55
imrektIt was python __main__.py | pastebinit20:56
imrektwas trying to pastebin a error20:56
Seveasrichieacc: the line actually goes into sudo.conf (which I've never used!)20:56
bekksimrekt: you need to redirect stderr to stdout first20:56
\9imrekt: use python __main__.py 2&>1 |pastebinit20:56
Seveasimrekt: then your __main__.py doesn't output anything.20:56
\9imrekt: so as to redirect stderr to stdout so that it can be pasted20:56
bekksSeveas: It does, but to stderr, not stdout.20:56
imrektSeveas: it does20:56
Seveas\9: &| is short for 2>&1 |20:57
imrektbekks: how would I do this20:57
\9Seveas: oh? cool20:57
\9imrekt: I just told you how20:57
imrektk20:57
imrekt-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'20:57
\9imrekt: python __main__.py 2>&1 | pastebinit20:58
\9sorry, had a typo in there20:58
imrektthat works, thank you20:58
richieaccSeveas: do you know where that file needs to be created? The man page is unclear.20:58
Seveasrichieacc: try /etc/sudo.conf20:59
Seveasman sudo says it goes there20:59
MonkeyDustsalamanderrake  for completeness, try:  apt-show-versions|grep -v uptodate21:00
ionte_hi. quick question: i'm a long term linux user who has been using mostly osx for the last years. back on ubuntu 14.04. i wan't to use two keyboard layouts (swedish and english). however, on multiple computers and multiple distro versions i have problem with getting this working consistently even on a new installation21:00
richieaccAh. I didn't think to check sudo man, I checked sudo.conf21:00
ionte_it typically works for a while after booting. but after a couple of minutes suddenly switching keyboard, even with the keyboard switcher applet, does not work anymore21:00
HanKtheRobot4Why does the official Nvidia drivers for Linux break updates?21:01
rinpoohi there does anyone know how to search in selected folders only?21:01
ionte_i have to switch back and forth a few times until it sticks. and then a little while later, after changinge windows etc, it's the same story again21:01
reisiorinpoo: search for what?21:02
HanKtheRobot4Is it still because of the STOLEN SGI CODE in the NVIDIA linux firmware?21:02
reisioHanKtheRobot4: I'd say in general it's because they're crap21:02
ionte_any ideas? this is obviously a bug, and a quite serious as it happens on each new installation, but i have not found much discussion on the internet...21:02
reisioionte_: what's your implementation?21:02
ionte_reisio, of what?21:03
ionte_currently i'm running Ubuntu 14.04. had this problem with Unity. Changed to Gnome Shell: same thing. Changed to Xubuntu: same thing21:03
salamanderrakeMonkeyDust: this is actually within steams runtime sdk chroot and I am trying to install mono > 2.* https://gist.github.com/salamanderrake/fbcba21098c5497b6c3321:03
reisioionte_: of your layout switching21:03
rinpoofiles21:04
rinpooI want to search for a filename in specific folders21:04
ionte_reisio: well, i have caps lock bound to change layout, but i had the same problem using ctrl+space and most seriously i have the same problem when using the default keyboard switching applet as well!21:04
salamanderrakeMonkeyDust: when I first run the upgrade command it started but perl complained about the locales being set to default and default was not found21:05
reisiorinpoo: find dir1/ dir2/ dir3/ -type f -iname '*foo*bar*'21:05
rinpooI kind of want to do that in the filemanager21:05
Bashing-omionte_: What options are set in the control file " /etc/default/keyboard " ? For instance : XKBLAYOUT="us,ua,ru"  .21:05
rinpooI have to move the files afterward21:06
rinpooand it way too much work to do that in the terminal21:06
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bekksrinpoo: finding files and moving them away is a oneliner in terminal.21:07
richieaccI found my solution. When I actually type the password on the command line, the command that is executed gets written to /var/log/auth.log. If it is not authenticated, then the command is not logged, which is perhaps not great, but possibly configurable. That gave me the commands that I needed to add to sudoers.21:07
ionte_Bashing-om: XKBMODEL="pc105", XKBLAYOUT="se", XKBVARIANT="", XKBOPTIONS="". i havn't touched it.21:07
rinpoonot if I need to sort the files21:07
rinpooI have to sort them in different folders21:07
rinpoono chance Im gonna do that in terminal21:08
ionte_Bashing-om: i guess that might explain why i got swedish keyboard, even after *removing* swedish keyboard layout in the keyboard settings!21:08
NoCodeShould I install xinit? What's the best updated option to install a login screen? The name escapes me right now.21:08
rinpooIm currently using nemo21:08
rinpoomaybe somebody knows a filemanger that can do that21:08
Bashing-omionte_: I would open file /etc/default/keyboard and add necessary options: here 'us' .21:08
ionte_Bashing-om: as in XKBOPTIONS="us"?21:09
ionte_and keep XKBLAYOUT="se"?21:09
NoCodeI guess an x display manager.21:10
Bashing-omionte_: XKBLAYOUT="us,se" ; is what I would do .. assuming that the us language pack is installed .21:10
ionte_Bashing-om: ok, i'll try21:12
rinpoowow even windows can do that kind of search....21:12
rinpoocan find anything in linux21:13
Bashing-omionte_: One can also set the keyboard layotr switching to a hot key combo if you desire not to use the task bar .21:14
RakuI'm having issues getting the background in lightdm to change, it seems to have to do with having my theme set to numix but I can't find what part of it is overriding the background to a static color21:14
ionte_Bashing-om: i do, see above21:14
ionte_Bashing-om: but neither works!!21:14
ner0xIs there a way to set your keyboard backlights to off on default instead of having to turn them down on every boot?21:15
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skypcehow can i execute a script before close all aplications before logout?21:16
skypcener0x, did you try in BIOS?21:16
ner0xskypce: I did not. I'll check that out. Thanks.21:17
skypceyou are welcome :)21:18
JmZany idea what'd cause `host` to resolve VPN hostnames but pinging them doesn't? (`Host xyz not found`)21:18
JmZ(and the IP `host` displays is reachable)21:19
Bashing-omionte_: See: http://madduck.net/docs/extending-xkb/ . Maybe ??21:19
ubuntu_kidnewbie21:22
rinpoofound recoll21:23
NoCodeWhat's a good terminal internet brower?21:23
NoCode(in a tty)21:23
k1l_NoCode: links, lynx, elinks,....21:24
geniisurfraw...21:24
k1l_noor w3m21:25
k1l_* NoCode21:25
Madhumper69my hd 2000 graphics drivers in ubuntu dont seem to work and i cant find any drivers anywhere? i cant get resolution 1920 . maybe this helps? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323486/21:25
geniiNoCode: I like links2, actually21:25
NoCodeInstalled links, maybe I'll try links2.21:26
Bashing-omionte_: ' setxkbmap -option grp:ctrl_shift_toggle "us,se" . Where the hot key is set to ctl+shift . If this works in trminal one can add the command to the startup file .21:26
Madhumper69my hd 2000 graphics drivers in ubuntu dont seem to work and i cant find any drivers anywhere? i cant get resolution 1920 . maybe this helps? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323486/           and          http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323576/  thanks21:26
NoCodeTrying to get my display manager to work, so I will Google. Unless someone wants to suggest something. :P21:26
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daftykinsMadhumper69: the intel drivers are in the kernel, so you shouldn't need any.21:31
daftykinsMadhumper69: VESA is being used in place of intel, i wonder if the cruft you've added to the kernel boot parameters - "drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug" are responsible21:32
ionte_Bashing-om: tried it. had english layout. pressed ctrl+shift, got swedish layout. pressed ctrl+shift again, still swedish layout. can't get back to english layout. tried caps lock (which i had configured before), same result. the keyboard applet show that english keyboard is selected though obviously swedish is active. selecting swedish in the keyboard applet changes nothing. neither does selecting english21:33
ionte_this is soooo broken...21:33
Bashing-omionte_: Ouch ! that is so unexpected .. sounds now like above my pay grade .21:34
Madhumper69im not sure21:35
Madhumper69how would i go about seeing if that is causing the issue, its a fresh install21:35
naccMadhumper69: a fresh install woulnd't have any extra parameters to the kernel in grub21:36
Madhumper69from those pastebins, doesnt seem like the gfx card is installed though eh?21:36
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Madhumper69does *-display UNCLAIMED  mean drivers not installed?21:37
Bashing-omMadhumper69: Intel module is loaded ' sudo lshw -C display '? What is listd in the configuration line ?21:37
ionte_Bashing-om: yes, and the worst thing is that it's the same on new installation on multiple computer of the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS!!21:38
kkihi again, the reinstall the network-manager not solved the issue, manually added fix ip still not working. No eth0 connection. I' m still open for ideas21:38
Madhumper69http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323631/21:39
Madhumper69what do you mean what is listed in the configuration line of xorg.conf?21:40
Bashing-omionte_: Hpw about : setxkbmap -layout "us,se" -option "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"21:42
RakuI'm having issues getting the background in lightdm to change, it seems to have to do with having my theme in lightdm set to numix but I can't find what part of the numix theme files are overriding the background to a static color instead of the background image I specify21:44
Bashing-omMadhumper69: Your surmise of no driver (module) loaded is confirmed that in the 'lshw' output no driver is listed .21:44
Madhumper69ok thanks, how do i force the driver?21:44
daftykinsi don't think you even have it installed21:45
geniiRaku: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Changing_the_Wallpaper21:45
daftykinsMadhumper69: again - you've added stuff to the kernel boot parameters, it doesn't look like a clean install to me21:46
Bashing-omMadhumper69: Need more info befor I can answer that one .. any hints in the log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log as to what is not taking place ?21:46
daftykinsMadhumper69: check xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed21:47
Madhumper69http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323486/ this is the xorg.o.log file21:47
Madhumper69thanks dafty will do21:47
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Bashing-omMadhumper69: reading .21:48
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naccMadhumper69: also, what does "doesn't seem to work" mean for you?21:48
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Madhumper69means that my display drivers are not installed and i get 1440x resolution and not 192021:49
Madhumper69?21:49
naccMadhumper69: did you try changing the resolution?21:49
daftykinsnacc: the log will show that such a suggestion is moot21:49
daftykinsVESA driver is in use.21:49
naccdaftykins: ah good point21:49
Madhumper69dafty i tried what u have suggested and i get an error about dependencies http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323696/21:50
Madhumper69i tried changing the resolutions but i never get it to work in the xorg.conf21:50
naccMadhumper69: what version of ubuntu is this? and did you run `apt-get update` first?21:51
Madhumper69yeah21:51
Madhumper6914.04lts21:51
Bashing-omMadhumper69: No attempt is even made to look for an intel driver. I am with daftykins .. what is the purpose of those boot line parameters ?21:52
ionte_i've had it. ubuntu finally lost me due to crazy keyboard troubles. i should be coding, not try to get keyboard layout switching to work ... :( debian, here i come...21:52
daftykinsMadhumper69: i don't think this was a normal desktop install - can you confirm?21:52
Madhumper69what bootline parameters... im little new to ubuntu.21:52
Madhumper69i installed from usb and then installed gnome21:53
daftykinsMadhumper69: i stated them earlier, from the xorg log - you are passing "drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug"21:53
Madhumper69i believe it was desktop cause i didnt download server ver.21:53
Bashing-omMadhumper69: " root=UUID=c8bc1cf2-af72-4db7-9615-acb1ee383933 ro drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug " for sure non-standard !21:53
daftykinsMadhumper69: try a "sudo apt update && sudo apt install xserver-xorg-core xorg-video-abi-15 xserver-xorg-video-intel"21:53
shafoxI am trying to install Lighthouse and the doc says to do this Typically you'll want to map a hotkey to run,  https://github.com/emgram769/lighthouse WHere can I learn more ?21:54
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Madhumper69dafty i get errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323725/21:55
Madhumper69how do i get rid of that bashing?21:55
daftykinsMadhumper69: stop asking two people in parallel.21:55
daftykinsok your install looks to be a total mess21:55
daftykinswhatever you did, you did it wrong21:56
naccMadhumper69: what did you mean, you 'installed gnome'?21:56
Madhumper69yeah, im nore sure what happened this happend recently with dependencies21:56
Madhumper69anyway to fix that without reinstalling?21:57
daftykinsno you just told us it's a normal fresh install21:57
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krobzaurHello all, I just tried to modify my xorg.conf file by adding another screen and now I can't log into my account. Is there any way I can roll back this config so I can log in again?21:57
Madhumper69i installed 4 days ago and had that problem from the biggining21:57
daftykinswell, someone is welcome to try and help you pick up the pieces... but i personally would just start again.21:57
Madhumper69i think i broke it by trying to fix it :S21:57
daftykinsyeah, sounds likely.21:57
daftykinsyou've hosed your package sources i suspect21:57
nicomachuskrobzaur: nothing in the xorg.conf that you can alter should make you unable to log in.21:57
Madhumper69anyway to purge and reinstall taht?21:58
krobzaurWell, unable to log into my desktop/graphical environment21:58
MonkeyDustkrobzaur  first, rename xorg.conf to xorg;conf.bak21:58
MonkeyDustkrobzaur  first, rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak21:58
krobzaurI can log into the text consoles on tty1 and whatnot21:58
daftykinsMadhumper69: start again.21:58
krobzaurI tried that, but I'll give it another go21:58
Madhumper69i put so much work into setting up everything else :S21:59
MonkeyDustkrobzaur  then restart to be sure21:59
Bashing-omkrobzaur: One can (m)ove the control file /etc/X11/xorg.conf from terminal, and IF required generate a fresh one .21:59
daftykinsMadhumper69: you shouldn't have gone any further on seeing package management was hosed.21:59
daftykinsMadhumper69: also, i would not install from the ISO you chose21:59
Madhumper69im new to ubuntu i learned alot in last few weeks21:59
Madhumper69i wonder what i did wrong so i dont do it agian22:00
krobzaurALright we'll see if this works!22:00
Bashing-om!md5sum | Madhumper69 1st step always !22:01
ubottuMadhumper69 1st step always !: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows22:01
Madhumper69i downloaded it from ubuntu website, has to be fine22:02
Madhumper69must be something that took over the kernel?22:02
nicomachusMadhumper69: not a safe assumption.22:02
daftykinsno, don't jump to conclusions22:02
nicomachushttps://thehackernews.com/2016/02/linux-mint-hack.html22:02
Madhumper69hmm22:02
Madhumper69you guys are above my pay grade lol :)22:03
nicomachusunfortunately no one here gets paid.22:03
Madhumper69being funny i know its all opensource lol22:03
Madhumper69well i appriciate all the help i really do, i guess im SOL eh22:04
nicomachusno, you can reinstall like daftykins said and start fresh.22:04
Madhumper69yeah22:04
Madhumper69im going to install 15.1022:04
nicomachusbetter to stick with 14.04 until the next LTS comes out.22:04
bpromptMadhumper69:    keep in mind that reinstalling takes just about 30mins or less on an SSD, on an ssd would be around 5mins22:05
Madhumper69yeah but i have alot of configuration stuff to do22:05
Madhumper69apache plex transmission server22:05
daftykinsi'd suggest 14.04.422:05
daftykinsall those are a one-liner22:05
Madhumper69not for a noob22:05
bpromptMadhumper69:      backup your $HOME, that's where all configs are22:05
Madhumper69lol22:05
nicomachusbprompt++22:05
MonkeyDustand in /etc/22:05
Madhumper69will that tint my new installation if its messed up to begin with?22:06
bpromptwell.. yes /etc is another spot, not so much as ~ though, but important, I back that up as well22:06
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bpromptMadhumper69:   will what again?22:07
Madhumper69well apperently i screwed up soemthing pretty bad22:07
bpromptand I gather you meant taint22:07
Madhumper69yeah im french my english is not the best :P22:07
new0how can i optimize my ubuntu 14.04 to work with 2ram and a swap file? any info u may need i can supply22:07
nicomachusnew0: 2ram? you mean 2 GB of RAM?22:07
new0nicomachus, yes22:08
nicomachusnew0: are you using Unity or what? for your desktop environment?22:08
new0it's old TOSHIBA SateliiteL455D22:08
snowgogglesMadhumper69: I would recommend using a system restore app like timeshift and create system snapshots before messing with configs if not familiar with what you're changing22:08
new0nicomachus, Unity22:08
Madhumper69is that like clonezilla or better?22:08
new0nicomachus, and i am not sure how to check how much ram it's taking and CPU time22:09
Madhumper69i was thinking of that too, as im at high risk to break things being a noob22:09
nicomachusnew0: you may fair better with something more lightweight like lxde or xfce22:09
nicomachusnew0: in the Dash you'll find "System Monitor"22:09
snowgogglestimeshift you can install on your running distro and backs up the system files but doesn't touch your user data by default22:09
new0nicomachus, sure. as i understand and remember i can use light DM22:10
Madhumper69good to know, thanks so much i have to run ...22:10
snowgogglesMadhumper69: but create a seperate small partition for the snapshots...ie. 30GB partition for timeshift snapshots22:10
krobzaursweet that worked thanks guys!22:10
nicomachusnew0: lightDM is what ubuntu uses as the login screen. lxde and xfce are alternatives to Unity, which is your desktop environment. Unity is a 3D environment, which can take more RAM and CPU power to render.22:11
new0nicomachus, good. System Monitor. good info22:11
krobzaurMonkeyDust: Bashing-om thanks!22:11
new0nicomachus, is Unity process called "compiz"?22:11
nicomachusnew0: lxde will basically turn your Ubuntu in Lubuntu, whereas xfce will turn it into Xubuntu. Both are more lightweight versions of Unity.22:12
nicomachusnew0: Unity uses compiz, yes.22:12
MonkeyDustnew0  unity is a compiz plugin for gnome322:12
new0MonkeyDust, nicomachus, tnx. so which process do i need to look into in order to see the ram Unity takes?22:13
new0nicomachus, MonkeyDust, at the moment the compiz take 97.9M22:14
mljmacnew0: sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback, then logout and at the login you can choose Gnome Compiz22:14
nicomachusmljmac: that's not what he is wanting to do.22:14
new0mljmac, mmm can u explain what r those?22:14
new0nicomachus, MonkeyDust, anyhow, how would to install lxde or ...?22:15
Bashing-omkrobzaur: :)22:15
bpromptnew0:     use LXDE, that should help, but I'd rather suggest you're better off getting at least an SSD22:15
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nicomachusbprompt: having an SSD vs. HDD isn't going to make much difference when it comes to 2gb of RAM and Unity...22:16
nicomachusnew0: see here: http://www.howtogeek.com/107368/how-to-install-the-lightweight-lxde-desktop-on-ubuntu/22:16
new0bprompt, sure. there is a lot of things to do on this laptop. so... i can just buy new one :) it's tmp for now until..22:16
daftykinsit'd make the inevitable swapping speedier :)22:16
new0nicomachus, i thought it's something with apt-get22:16
nicomachusnew0: yea, apt-get install lubuntu-desktop22:16
new0daftykins, ho yes. i did think of that actually22:16
nicomachusnew0: that article explains it, and then explains how to switch to it.22:17
daftykinsbut yeah unity on 2GB... noooo22:17
bpromptnicomachus:    cpu usage wise, it will not, I/O wise, it makes a huge difference, and ram swapping benefits from that greatly, as well as regular OS processes and apps22:17
new0nicomachus, hoo, so that cmd is what will be on the tutorial?22:17
nicomachusnew0: yes, it's all there.22:17
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new0daftykins, :D22:17
new0nicomachus, tnx :)22:18
nicomachusbprompt: that's true, but comparing the cost of getting an SSD for >$100 and then trying to get it into a laptop that may not have a slot, opposed to using a free desktop env that's more lightweight... I'll suggest lxde over an SSD every time.22:18
mljmacnew0: sudo apt-get install lxde22:18
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bpromptnicomachus:    hmm as matter of hardware upgrade, assuming this is an old Sata2 2gb ddr2 laptop, ssd is the way to go, >$100?   not quite, it has gone down in price, you can get say.... a 64gbs sataII SSD from samsung or others, for $50 or thereabouts, you can get some 128gbs ones for less than $100 these days22:20
new0nicomachus, mljmac, daftykins, btw i would think to buy new 4Gram on future time22:21
daftykinsnew0: depends on the specific machine, 8GB is a minimum today. (i'd even say 16GB really)22:21
daftykinsthat's for DDR3 and 4 though really22:22
new0daftykins, can't agree with u more. but for new PC i would 32G the max i can for it. but this old laptop i have 2 options:22:23
Bashing-omnew0: daftykins "  8GB is a minimum today. (i'd even say 16GB really) " While we are dreaming, 8 core AMD processor .22:23
new0daftykins, 1: get new SSD for my OLD (bug good) pc, and take the old SSD to swap on this laptop as i need to buy new one for it anyway. 2) get another 4G22:24
new0Bashing-om, why u queting?22:24
new0daftykins, and yes like nicomachus meantion with the link it give me "It’s even lighter than Xubuntu’s XFCE."22:25
daftykinswell, hardware talk isn't quite on topic here - but sure, whatever goes - though I can't confirm those ideas being good without knowing the systems22:25
Bashing-omnew0: Keeping in context, and where the quote came from .. my little addendum for my wish list .22:26
Rakugenii, I've edited that already and it's getting overwritten by something in the numix theme http://puu.sh/nyuSU/59e3a235be.png22:26
new0daftykins, of course! this is why i said at start of topic.. any Q about my HW can be supply by me22:26
daftykinsnew0: yeah but it's not for this channel22:27
fantasai_Hi! Anyone have an idea why git would fail to authenticate against GitHub on 16.04 even though it works just fine under 12.04?22:27
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new0daftykins, mm, i doubt that. because as i will list my HW here (if someone will ask or i needed to) then it might help with optimization22:28
new0daftykins, but for now i will stick with LXDE22:28
daftykinsnew0: no i'm telling you 100% that it's off topic for this channel :)22:28
daftykinsi'm leaving now, i won't see any further messages22:28
fantasai(I have both systems installed on separate partitions, sharing a /home partition. Booting into 14.04 works, booting into 16.04 doesn't.)22:28
fantasaiSorry, meant s/12.04/14.04/22:28
fantasaiI think.22:29
snowgogglesfantasai: if sharing a home partition perhaps there is a distro version specific config file causing the issue22:30
mljmacI got lxde now in 14.04 lts22:30
fantasaisnowgoggles: In the home directory?22:30
fantasaisnowgoggles: Seems pretty unlikely22:31
le_pigfantasai: Are you using an SSH key for GitHub auth?  If so, did you copy your key?22:31
fantasaile_pig: Yes, using SSH. Didn't copy the key: the entire /home partition is shared, so anything within it is identical.22:31
fantasaile_pig: Only system files aren't shared between the two environments -- stuff outside /home.22:32
new0i just did install lubuntu-desktop and it's saying after this operation, i will take 250M space. isn't that too much havy? or not realy?22:33
fantasainew0: lubuntu-desktop probably includes a lot of dependencies, since it's effectively a bundle of lots of software... 250M doesn't seem unreasonable to me.22:34
fantasainew0: Though I don't know what differs between your current environment and that22:34
mljmacnew0: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS took 6.3 GIG22:35
fantasaile_pig: The key is id_dsa22:35
new0fantasai, ok. yes it's because the customizer and dependencies. it's also have vanila LXDE with install lxde. should this be done?22:35
new0mljmac, perhaps22:35
fantasainew0: Not sure what you're asking... If you just want lxde, then probably just install lxde. IIRC desktop packages include lots of tools like settings manager, terminal, text editor, word processor, etc. At least, that's what I remember.22:36
HanKtheRobot4https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/79841422:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 798414 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "update-initramfs should produce a more helpful error when there isn't enough free space" [Medium,Confirmed]22:36
HanKtheRobot4this bug still exists in 15.1022:37
fantasaile_pig: I know stuff changed in openssl, did Ubuntu 16.04 drop support for id_dsa keys?22:37
HanKtheRobot4oh wait nvm...seems that it might have been picked up and squashed again. Thanks!22:37
new0fantasai, the lxde take half the packages to be installed and 46.4M only. is that mean i can just install the lxde and then if something else missing/needed than i will do install lubuntu-desktop too?22:39
fantasainew0: Yeah, sure, give it a shot. :)22:39
new0fantasai, :) ok22:39
fantasainew0: lxde package is a subset of lxde-desktop22:39
Rakugenii, Got any other ideas?22:39
le_pigfantasai: I'm not sure, but you're likely looking at two different versions of openssl libs between 12.04 and 14.04.  Either way, I assumed it was best practice to use RSA 2048 and up at this point.  Maybe it's time to go with something a bit stronger, no? :)22:39
new0fantasai, ok. i guess if i have tools installed in Unity, they will be on lxde too! right?22:40
new0fantasai, like gedit, sublime text, etc...22:40
fantasainew0: They will remain installed, yes, unless you uninstall Unity22:40
geniiRaku: I'm not familiar with numix, so nothing immediately comes to mind, sorry.22:41
fantasaile_pig: Yeah, probably. I'd have to get the sysadmins to change my keys then. :p Let me try that, hopefully it works......22:41
RakuIt's something in the actual theme, if I change it to  greybird for example http://puu.sh/nyvX1/b5c5b8488c.png the background displays fine22:42
le_pigfantasai: Looks like DSA will be deprecated with the 7.0 release of openssh: http://www.openssh.com/legacy.html22:43
MikeHi ist hier jemand der deutch spricht?22:43
nicomachus!de | Mike22:43
ubottuMike: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!22:43
MikeOk thanks:-)22:44
new0nicomachus, so..... i guess to have to do LogOutIn for LXDE22:46
fantasaile_pig: Thanks :)22:47
nicomachusnew0: yes, and while logged out you have to click on the little Ubuntu logo next to your username, and then select LXDE from the dropdown menu. Then log in. It should keep LXDE as default from then on.22:47
fantasaile_pig: Seems to be working now.22:47
new0btw, if i use different DM is it taking less memory for each app it's running?22:47
le_pigfantasai: Whatever you did, I'm glad it's working now. :)22:47
new0nicomachus, nice tnx22:47
new0brb22:48
dennirt!22:48
fantasaile_pig: Switched to rsa like you said :)22:48
fantasainow I just need to backup this key before I get myself into trouble...22:48
new0nicomachus, ?22:51
new0wow, it think that's really fast Environment :) :D22:52
new0finally22:52
nicomachusgood.22:52
new0anyway i do have more issues now hope u and u all will help :)22:52
new0why my VGA card is my primary screen and not my build-in laptop screen?22:53
new0?22:55
fantasainew0: No idea, but xrandr might be able to help you figure out what's going on.22:56
fantasainew0: It lists all the active windows and lets you configure them22:56
fantasainew0: I'm afraid I don't use lxde, so not sure how to do that graphically.22:57
new0fantasai, who is xrandr?22:57
fantasainew0: Its a console command. A bit hard to use, but can be useful for figuring out what's going on :)22:57
monkey_Hi all. Im using Ubuntu 5.10 with Cinnamon. And for some reason i have two file browsers. Both very similar. But one has a menu and more functionality. But the other one seems to be the default. Any ideas how i remove it?22:57
new0fantasai, do u know how to terminaly doing it?22:58
fantasainew0: Open a terminal and type 'xrandr'. It should print out the various monitors and their output modes22:58
fantasainew0: I'm sure there's a better way to do this... maybe try looking for the Display configuration screen in lxde's settings manager? :)22:59
deehuckHello! My system seems to be using a lot more swap space than it should. For example, at the moment I'm using ~500MB of RAM and ~600MB of swap. From what I understand swap is a lot slower than RAM so I would obviously prefer my system to use the RAM as much as possible. Ubuntu 15.1022:59
monkey_I essentially have 2 versions of nemo23:00
monkey_deehuck, Swap will only get used when your ram is full afaik23:00
new0fantasai, great. xrandr really display the info. how to change the settings?23:00
Rakugenii, I fixed it, the gtk-greeter-tehem.css was missing a line in it23:01
deehuckmonkey_, well I have 4GB of RAM installed so it is definitely not full :/23:01
monkey_deehuck, You should have the same size swap as you do ram23:01
fantasainew0: Um. Something like xrander --output VGA1 --mode 1400x900 ? There should be a manual somewhere...23:01
HanKtheRobot4Ubuntu Borg is a Star Trek nerd at IBM23:01
HanKtheRobot4hehe23:01
fantasainew0: But really there should be an easier way to do it :)23:01
HanKtheRobot4he went to sleep on Saturday23:01
HanKtheRobot4so he is not a real borg23:01
fantasainew0: I'm just on a weird setup and don't have one...23:01
deehuckmonkey_, do you think if I made the swap partition bigger than the RAM the kernel may try to prioritize the larger amount?23:01
new0fantasai, ok23:02
geniiRaku: Glad to know the solution for future sufferers of the same problem.23:02
fantasainew0: xrander --help will list all the possible commands23:02
daftykinsdeehuck: read up on vm.swapiness23:02
monkey_deehuck, No. It will always use the ram first23:02
monkey_deehuck, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq23:02
fantasainew0: You'll probably want xrander --output LVDSORWHATEVERTHESCREENISCALLED --somethingelse23:02
RavenholmDXHey, any wget experts around?23:03
Rakugenii, The general section from here https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/blob/master/gtk-3.0/apps/lightdm-gtk-greeter.css was the specific part missing23:03
fantasainew0: Sorry I don't know lxde :(23:03
new0fantasai, mmm isn't thta xrander is ubuntu command and not lxde?23:03
fantasainew0: But it might solve your immediate problem until you figure it out :)23:03
fantasaiIt's an X windows command.23:04
fantasaishould work on all desktop systems23:04
krobzaurHello all! Question about multi monitor setups. How would I "decouple" my monitors, so I could move between desktops on each monitor independently23:04
rolicHi23:05
RakuI'm also having a problem with a kernel module I compiled, I have it in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/extra but it does not get loaded, the original one takes priority23:05
krobzaurI've looked around on the internet but I'm a little wary about messing with my configs because I just tried a second ago and messed up my ability to log in to my graphical desktop environment23:06
new0fantasai, ok. tnx23:06
deehuckmonkey_, after reading that it seems I made my swap space too large causing it to act erratically. thanks for the pointers :D23:07
new0anyone here know to do change monitor primary screen with xrandr or any other cmd?23:07
new0this LXDE is really fast than Unity i usage so it would be very much helpfull23:08
monkey_new0, Most DE's are faster than Unity23:08
ProfIncCan anyone help me?  I am trying to install an apk app on a amazon fire stick and I have reached the point where I have connected the fire stick to the computer.  But when I list the devices, it says there is more than one connected and when I try to install the apk, it says this...23:09
ProfIncerror: more than one device and emulator23:09
ProfInc- waiting for device -23:09
new0fantasai, mmmm i think that was the customizer all about isn't it? it's just tools of setting instead of vanilla LXDE without customization. and all those tools 250M total, i don't think it's been loading into the memory when boot/loggedIn! right?23:09
new0monkey_, mmm, and i really need that speed23:09
ProfIncHow do I go about disabling the other device that shows up?23:10
new0monkey_, it's 2G :)23:10
ProfIncif anyone can help me please PM me23:10
new0monkey_, would u know how to configure primary screen? with xrandr or any terminal cmd?23:11
monkey_new0, check out cinnamon. Its just as fast as LXDE from my experience.23:11
monkey_new0, No, not used it23:11
new0monkey_, ok. tnx23:11
ProfInccan someone help me with installing an app on to a amazon firestick?23:14
yonatanwhat's the best way to implement a service where people email stuff and i reply with some text (say generated by a python script run on their email)? any pointers?23:15
fantasainew0: I have no idea what lxde uses as a display settings editor.23:16
fantasainew0: If you can find out, you can probably fix it23:16
bluefiveDoes TOR use AES?23:17
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daftykinsbluefive: not really relevant here, find their channel perhaps23:17
taffydisrespectful23:17
taffyyoure not relevent here with that stink bret23:17
daftykins!ops | taffy PM abuse23:18
ubottutaffy PM abuse: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang23:18
bluefiveI found the TOR network: irc.oftc.net.23:18
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giminystupid question: is there an official list of all ubuntu package signing keys someplace?23:22
Bray90820http://pastebin.com/raw/gquhw5Vq23:23
Bray90820Is aaron the owner and mythtv the group or the other way around?23:23
daxBray90820: aaron's the owner, mythtv's the group23:24
Bray90820what's the difference between an owner and a group?23:24
new0monkey_, great idea. now i using gnome (now sure how it was installed) but this is fast23:25
drkfdrdoh... those times you forget to ask NTP access on a firewalled site...23:25
new0also pretty nice too23:26
monkey_bah, gnome is awful23:26
new0monkey_, what do u use/23:26
new0?23:26
monkey_Cinnamon23:26
* drkfdr installed ntp server and syncs via openvpn instead ;P23:26
new0monkey_, is it good for old laptop with 2G too?23:26
monkey_Like i said earlier, I find it runs just as quick as LXDE and Gnome, faster if anything23:27
monkey_And much nicer than both23:27
new0monkey_, mm. good to know.23:27
new0monkey_, because i think i should probably first use a DE/DM before running into terminal23:28
new0now, what it would be best for FTP client?23:28
nicolasbhello :) i am super sorry in advance, i know that much has been written online about this topic but i was unable to find an appropriate answer... i tried many things that i can list, but to no avail. my problem is : grub rescue. the infamous. if anyone ever did the mistake of formatting a linux partition, i would be more than happy to hear about their recovering experience. i spotted a few threads on askubuntu wih the same pro23:29
nicolasbblem but none of the proposed solutions works/are doable for me...23:29
monkey_new0, Filezilla23:29
new0monkey_, tnx23:30
cadenyou might be able to hold ESC on bootup and it might work23:30
cadenor try to get into ur pc's bios23:30
nicolasbescape doesnt work :( i went into bios and did all the possible configurations ( up to some point ) and none worked23:31
nicolasbbut thanks though :)23:31
cadenis ur computer a laptop or desktop23:31
new0monkey_, nice. i see Nautilus too. but i will try FileZilla latter.23:31
new0monkey_, mmm sudo apt-get install filezilla?23:31
nicolasblaptop23:31
cadentake out your battery, and hold the power button for 20 seconds with the battery out. Put the battery back in and try again23:32
cadenfixed mine23:32
monkey_new0, Check the UBuntu software centre23:32
new0monkey_, tnx23:33
new0monkey_, hhmm, i see i already have it installed :)23:33
new0i guess i forgot about it.23:33
new0tnx all23:33
nicolasbstill grub rescue. i mean, i formatted the linux partition, so my only hope was to boot from live usb key, but it is unable to do so...23:34
nicolasbapparently that my second hope is to boot into windows, but i am also unable to do so.23:34
cadenWait, did you actually do what I just said? Just so I know if it worked.23:34
snowgogglesnew0:  and i was just starting to appreciate your terminal usage with apt-get23:34
nicolasbyes i di23:34
nicolasbd23:34
cadenwell, i'm stumped. sorry23:35
cadenmaybe try to make an ubuntu install disc, booting from it and completely erasing the linux partition23:35
nicolasbahah it's ok - i've been trying all the combinations of "ls (hdx,y)" in grub rescue but it is stuck at insmod normal23:36
new0snowgoggles, "and i was just....." meaning sarcasm?23:37
nicolasbyour solution ( to make an ubuntu install disc) is what i originally had in mind, but the pc doesn't boot from the key when plugged in23:37
cadenwell, my problems never went that far, the battery trick worked for me23:37
snowgogglesnew0:  not all ....you'll learn linux faster doing things like installing software through the terminal and familiar with apt tools23:38
giminyanybody running 12.04 that can tell me what signing keys are used for signing packages in that distro?23:38
snowgogglesnew0:  for instance search your repo cache for packages...checking install state....package repo source...so on23:40
new0snowgoggles, sure. can't agree more. one day i might not use any GUI and really become master of it and save more CPU/ram compsamtion23:40
new0snowgoggles, yep23:41
new0snowgoggles, on the end i might write some code my self to some DM23:41
snowgogglesnew0:  start updating your repo cache through terminal instead of depending on a gui like soft center23:41
new0snowgoggles, actually i barely even touch soft center23:42
snowgogglesjust enter sudo apt-get update to refresh your repo package sources...and if there's issues it will tell you...software center doess'nt always explain the issue in enough detail23:42
new0snowgoggles, mm. yes. i do use update and autoclean once23:43
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Guest6535hi23:44
new0snowgoggles, btw. it's already the 5th/6th time that i came back and forward to linux/ubuntu and all the time something like not knowing the system too good like Win7 got me to stop23:44
new0snowgoggles, this time i feel more knowing it and start to get it/learn it very fast23:45
Guest6535are there any linux mp3 players that can handle 100,000+ songs?23:45
daftykinswhat do you mean by Linux player?23:45
Guest6535software23:46
daftykinsah ok, my head was stuck in portable devices23:46
geniiSo not RokBox then23:46
Guest6535music player23:46
snowgogglesnew0: you need an incentive to stay with linux / ubuntu23:46
daftykinsgmusicbrowser, banshee, err... plenty more23:46
Guest6535banshee can handle it?23:46
snowgogglesnew0:  how about free with no ads?23:47
daftykinsmaybe, no idea.23:47
Guest6535i tried clementine but didn't like it23:47
new0snowgoggles, why? where the ads on Win?23:48
naccGuest6535: it sounds like you had an answer already, you just didn't like the answer23:48
Danielh90Should I use tmux or screen's to handle my minecraft server's?23:48
daftykinsDanielh90: it doesn't matter, use what you want.23:48
new0snowgoggles, btw Win is for Graphic things Photoshop/games23:48
Guest6535k thx23:48
Danielh90daftykins, witch one works better?23:48
new0snowgoggles, anyway, nice talk :) got to go23:49
daftykinsDanielh90: you tell me23:49
Danielh90daftykins, tmux I think23:50
daftykinsi don't think you're aware of the difference :) go try them23:50
jvturnerI'm trying to install php7 on a Ubuntu 12.04 box but getting Error: 'main' invalid23:51
daftykinsjvturner: are you married to 12.04? because that sentence is kind of ridiculous23:51
jvturnerdaftykins: no I just downloaded a vm that has 12.04 and Drupal 8 working as I needed it to and working with vagrant, so it saves me time, but I wanted to upgrade for PHP723:52
jvturnerif you think I can solve the issue by upgrading to Ubuntu 14.x, I will try it23:53
daftykinsah ok so a case of "user makes task more complicated for self"23:53
daftykinsno that won't help either23:53
daftykinsnot even sure 16.04 is going to 7...23:53
daftykinsapparently it might be!23:54
diddledanphp7 is available in xenial under the package name php7.023:55
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