[00:00] <exedore6> Trying something.
[00:00] <Mathisen> yottabyte, that should not hapend... try holding shift on boot
[00:00] <Mathisen> that will force grub
[00:02] <sam__-phone> make a live supergub cd
[00:02] <sam__-phone> and use it to install grub
[00:03] <yottabyte> Mathisen: before I press the power button?
[00:03] <yottabyte> do I have to do it everytime? I'll try it shortly but I'll have to disconnect from irc
[00:03] <R13ose> xangua: I am not getting anywhere on how to do that.
[00:04] <Mathisen> yottabyte, power on then hold shift yes
[00:04] <sam__-phone> yotta make a supergrub cd or use your linux live cd to reinstall grub
[00:04] <monty_hall> here are core dumps are stored?
[00:04] <monty_hall> I'm used to them being in the pwd
[00:04] <monty_hall> I'm debugging a program
[00:04] <xangua> 5:55 PM <reisio> xfce4-notifyd, notification-daemon R13ose
[00:05] <yottabyte> sam__-phone: I'm making a boot-repair-disk usb
[00:05] <yottabyte> and damn I could've used my ubuntu live cd?
[00:05] <Mathisen> yottabyte, yep
[00:05] <sam__-phone> one is a lot quicker than the other
[00:05] <Mathisen> yottabyte, but just try shift before you try to re-install grub
[00:06] <Mathisen> it may be there is no problem at all
[00:06] <yottabyte> if I can boot into ubuntu with shift is there a way to make the grub menu reappear ?
[00:06] <Mathisen> it will do that with shift
[00:06] <yottabyte> k let me try the shift thing right now
[00:07] <R13ose> reisio: thanks.  There is no notification-daemon and if I remove notify-osd that will remove ubuntu-desktop too which I don't wan to do.
[00:08] <sam__-phone> how often does being lazy help you learn new ways to use stuff?
[00:11] <ferris_> h
[00:26] <funkiestj> #git
[00:27] <SchrodingersScat> #erdone
[00:29] <Pinkamena_D> Does anyone know of any 3d printers which provide software for ubuntu/linux (native) ?
[00:30] <Pinkamena_D> or rather - their creators provide?
[00:31] <Ben64> Pinkamena_D: not really on topic here, but many of them work in linux, could discuss more in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:32] <dax> the FSF has a list of ones it certifies. might be a good idea to start there (and then probably branch out to something cheaper from the same people...)
[01:15] <dax> don't do that ^
[01:16] <mniip> hint: in most clients /server will disconnect you from your current server and connect elsewhere
[01:16] <dax> ayup
[01:16] <reisio> I like the way it's done in MMORPGs
[01:16] <reisio> you walk up to someone and tell them to type some string of chars, that amounts to dropping the first item in your inventory on the ground :D
[01:30] <sam__-phone> lol
[01:33] <reisio> take that .68!
[01:44]  * RiFi Hola , Bonsoir , Hello , Salam Alaikum
[01:44] <reisio> RiFi: bonjour
[01:45] <RiFi> reisio bonjour mnt ? hh
[01:45] <RiFi> reisio salut alors
[01:45] <RiFi> psk chez nous c encore bientot
[01:45] <reisio> :D
[01:46] <RiFi> :D
[01:46]  * RiFi Dont Whois Me
[01:46] <RiFi> XD
[01:47] <RiFi> algune de españa
[01:47] <RiFi> de Morreucos
[01:47] <defec> me pueden ver?
[01:47] <defec> alguien me ve??
[01:47] <RiFi> hola Defec
[01:47] <defec> ohhh me ves?
[01:47] <defec> genial
[01:47] <RiFi> hhh si
[01:48] <RiFi> aver
[01:48] <defec> pense que no lo habia hecho bien
[01:48] <RiFi> si
[01:48] <squinty> !pb
[01:48] <RiFi> yo soy de Morruecos
[01:48] <RiFi> normalmente
[01:48] <defec> me puedes ayudar??...
[01:48] <RiFi> yo hablo arabe
[01:48] <RiFi> pero
[01:48] <defec> como me uno a un servidor?
[01:48] <squinty> !pt
[01:48] <RiFi> yo hablo frances
[01:48] <defec> ???? arabe??
[01:48] <RiFi> y au poco español
[01:48] <RiFi> si arabe
[01:48] <RiFi> no conoces arabe ?
[01:49] <defec> es raro...
[01:49] <RiFi> si
[01:49] <defec> pero bueno... genial por ti
[01:49] <RiFi> en morrueccos hablamos arabie y amazigh
[01:49] <RiFi> si defec
[01:49] <squinty> take it elsewhere please
[01:49] <RiFi> gracias hermano
[01:49] <defec> en donde yo vivo... chile, hablamos español y pulento
[01:49] <RiFi> squinty hello
[01:49] <defec> jajjaja
[01:50] <RiFi> defec encatado yo soy de Morruecos
[01:50] <RiFi> mete lo en google maps
[01:50] <RiFi> y meralo
[01:50] <squinty> !pt
[01:50] <RiFi> squinty sorry !
[01:50] <RiFi> squinty have u a probleme ?
[01:50] <feneco> Can I upgrade gnome on Ubuntu gnome 14.04.4?
[01:51] <feneco> Without breaking everything :(
[01:51] <xangua> feneco: no
[01:51] <teward> feneco: can you? yes, but it's painful.  should you?  No, because you'll break everything.
[01:51] <teward> the overarching answer being "no" here.
[01:52] <RiFi> defec en este canale hay muxas personas de cada payes ?
[01:52] <RiFi> moi c la premiere fois que je rentre ici
[01:53] <RiFi> ya quelqu'un de la france aussi pour discuter ?
[01:53] <RiFi> hh
[01:53] <teward> !fr | RiFi
[01:53] <squinty> RiFi,  please stop right now
[01:53] <RiFi> ok
[01:53] <RiFi> im sorry
[01:53] <RiFi> :)
[01:54] <RiFi> but
[01:54] <RiFi> i cant speak deutsh ?
[01:54] <bobby_> join #ipv6
[01:54] <RiFi> spreshen dutsh squinty ?
[01:54] <RiFi> hahaha
[01:55] <RiFi> don't shun me !!
[01:55] <RiFi> hhh
[01:56] <teward> RiFi: seriously, stop
[01:56] <lankanmon> hey guys, I am getting: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80] when trying to update
[01:56] <teward> lankanmon: utopic is past end of life and no longer supported
[01:57] <teward> lankanmon: it's not on the repositories anymore, so you can't get updates
[01:57] <RiFi> teward !
[01:57] <teward> !utopic | lankanmon
[01:57] <RiFi> what this script hh
[01:57] <RiFi> teward stoping wha ?
[01:58] <jim> RiFi, less enter key, more content. you'll get better responses that way
[01:59] <RiFi> jim wtf
[01:59] <RiFi> jim go fuck ur mather
[02:00] <squinty> !ops
[02:00] <squinty> thanks k1l
[02:04] <jim> how would this snappy thing achieve better speed and the rollback thing?
[02:14] <jim__> Hello, I'm running 14.04 and I notice my system was running a little slow so I set off to do a little cleanup.  I found out that I had a  directory "/usr/src" with lots of "linux-headers-3.13.0-68-lowlatency" type of directories in it and found that these were apparently associated with old kernel builds.  I used "Synaptic Package Manager" to remove the old kernels and I still have 30 of these "*lowlatency" directories and it's version pair
[02:14] <jim__>  directory hanging around.  Each pair of directories seems to have about 34K files in it.  How to I safely remove these unwanted directories?
[02:14] <bobby_> hi does anybody have any idea on how to remove a large volume of encrypted data that somehow unknowingly spawned under /home/ecryptfs/mx2500/.Private possibly by a trojan or something like that
[02:18] <Bashing-om> jim__: snnaptic will do that " completely remove" . be aware of what kernel you are booting ( uname -r ) and keep one other known good kernel - the one under the 'uname -r' return .
[02:18] <Bashing-om> synaptic*
[02:20] <jim__> I kept the most current 3 and chose the option to "completely remove" all the rest but still the files remain
[02:21] <jim__> sorry, the directories remain
[02:22] <Jordan_U> jim__: The headers are in a different package whose name ends in -headers.
[02:25] <anthony_> hi
[02:25] <anthony_> ?
[02:29] <jim__> Jordan_U:  I take you clue and I do a search in "Synaptic Package Manager" for "linux-headers-3" and get a list of packages that looks promising.  I shall remove them and see what happens.  (Leaving the most current 3, of course)
[02:30] <Jordan_U> jim__: Also, in the future, "dpkg -S /path/to/file" will tell you what package a file is from.
[02:31] <jim> jim__, if you want the headers for the kernel you're running, you would need to know what kernel version you're running... uname -r
[02:33] <jim__> jim, yes, I'm currently running "3.13.0-79-lowlatency".  I am leaving it plus the 2 most recent ones as well.
[02:34] <jim> jim__, is there a package linux-headers-3.13.0-79-lowlatency?
[02:35] <bobby_> can someone tell me how to access ./ files or hidden directories from command line?
[02:35] <Ben64> bobby_: same way as a normal file or directory
[02:35] <bobby_> like cd ./suchadirectory ?
[02:36] <bobby_> I can't see hidden directories with ls
[02:36] <Bashing-om> bobby_: ' ls -al <whatever> ' .
[02:36] <Ben64> ./ = your current location..... ./suchadirectory is a directory called "suchadirectory" in your current folder
[02:37] <jim__> jim, yes, and 29 others as well.  each pair of header directories contain about 34K files, which does a number on the "du" utility when searching for uses space.
[02:37] <bobby_> or am I mistaking ~/ with ./ hidden directories?
[02:37] <Ben64> bobby_: ~/ is your home directory
[02:37] <Ben64> bobby_: i think you're confusing ".blah" with "./blah"
[02:38] <jim> bobby_, in linux, one way to hide files and dirs, is to name them with a . at the start of the name... the -a option to ls will list them (as well as the nonhidden files and dirs that it would have anyway)
[02:38] <jim> jim__, what's your goal?
[02:39] <jim__> disk cleanup, free some space, the "/" directory was getting to full
[02:39] <Stef__> sh3ll
[02:39] <Stef__> ayy
[02:39] <Stef__> lmao
[02:39] <Stef__> whatup
[02:39] <murfjr> ayy lmao
[02:39] <Ben64> bobby_: "./" is the current directory, so anything that starts with "./" is where you currently are, and is usually not needed. lets say you have two folders, one called "foo", and one called ".bar" you could cd to those by doing "cd ./foo" and "cd ./.bar" or "cd foo" and "cd .bar"
[02:40] <jim> jim__, headers in general help with building stuff in c and c++, if you don't need to do that, you don't need the headers
[02:40] <Ben64> jim: not necessarily true
[02:41] <jim> Ben64, what's not?
[02:41] <Ben64> that you don't need the headers if you don't want to compile
[02:41] <Firefishe> Has anyone here ever had to do a low-level hard 'turn on' of a usb bluetooth dongle?
[02:41] <jim> ok... what other purpose do they serve?
[02:42] <Ben64> theres other stuff that needs it, that you may not be aware of. for example, virtualbox and nvidia drivers
[02:42] <jim> Ben64, does that involve compiling and/or building packages?
[02:42] <Ben64> yes, but the user probably isn't aware of that
[02:43] <Ben64> "well i don't do any c or c++, i'll uninstall all the headers" then nvidia breaks next update
[02:43] <jim> ok. so I don't understand how the statement I made isn't true... but whichever...
[02:44] <Ben64> don't assume the user knows that something is happening in the background
[02:44] <jim> wouldn't the build-depend packages get installed?
[02:44] <Bashing-om> jim: Just that the headers are needed to build modules .
[02:45] <jim> there's that keyword again... "build"
[02:45] <Ben64> which the end user may not know about
[02:45] <jim__> I am going through each header package and checking the dependencies to make sure that there isn't a package other than a kernal build that needs them.  will that cover my posterior ?
[02:46] <jim> probably this argument, I'm just going to drop
[02:46] <Ben64> jim__: you can safely remove the older ones
[02:48] <jim> Ben64, using that logic, let's put build-essential in the base
[02:48] <bobby_> what is the ./Private dir for under ~/ ?
[02:48] <Ben64> bobby_: why do you keep doing ./ at the beginning of everything
[02:49] <bobby_> sorry /.Private
[02:49] <Ben64> still no
[02:50] <jim> probably you mean ~/.Private
[02:50] <jim> (aka "the hidden dir .private located in the current user'
[02:50] <jim> s home dir
[02:51] <jim> )
[02:53] <bobby_> ~/.Private
[02:54] <Techspectre> Hey guys. I have an HDD that went belly up like a year ago. I held onto it just in case I'd ever be able to recover the files. Well, I plugged it in today just for the hell of it and it actually spun up. It's spinning now and Ubuntu sees it, though the filesystem says 'unknown'. What's the best course of action to possibly recover data here?
[02:55] <bobby_> one hour ago my root directory was 25% full then about 25 minutes ago I looked again and it was at 95% capacity and I found a lot of encrypted data under this directory and I was wondering where it came from I think it was a trojan or someting
[02:55] <Ben64> Techspectre: use dd or ddrescue to make an image of the drive somewhere safe, then mess with that
[02:56] <MannyLNJ> Still needing assistance: I had Samba working, I can see the system when I click broswe to network but when I try to connect to it I get thge message failed to retreive share list. I really need help please
[02:56] <Bashing-om> bobby_: Did you check the size of the log files, and what wrote to them ( maybe ) that is spamming the logs ?
[02:57] <jim__> The removal of header files went well.  I hoping that the removal of those 900K plus files in those header directories will not only free up disk space but will help out with file-system meta data cashing and also speed things up a bit.
[02:58] <bobby_> bashing-on: good idea which logs should I check?
[02:59] <Ben64> jim: they're not very large
[03:00] <Bashing-om> bobby_: Look in the directory ' /var/log/ . in particular dmesg, kern.log and syslog .
[03:00] <karrot> I have a probelm with connecting to wife, when I bring up the little icon in the upper right corner, it brings up about 10 wifi connections, but it ignores the one I really need
[03:00] <karrot> I feel like there might be some maximum wifi spots it will show
[03:00] <bobby_> ok
[03:01] <jim__> Ben64, that is very true.  However, each file eats up an I-node and having more free I-nodes makes file creation and space allocation easier for the file-system to accomplish.
[03:01] <jim__> and hopefully quicker
[03:02] <alphis> hey guys. i have a service i want to autostart and i can start it manually with systemctl start servicename.service. however when i run systemctl enable servicename.service it simply fails with no useful information
[03:04] <Techspectre> Ben64, thank you I'm looking into ddrescue now
[03:05] <MannyLNJ> Still needing assistance: I had Samba working, I can see the system when I click broswe to network but when I try to connect to it I get thge message failed to retreive share list. I really need help please
[03:07] <paul_1515> are you running sudo systemctl enable servicename ?
[03:10] <sorunbuyuk> help
[03:10] <sorunbuyuk> help
[03:11] <reisio> help granted
[03:13] <sorunbuyuk> help?
[03:14] <sorunbuyuk> i have big problem
[03:14] <sorunbuyuk> http://imgur.com/UdYv1rf
[03:16] <reisio> sorunbuyuk: hey bro
[03:16] <reisio> sorunbuyuk: what's the problem?
[03:16] <Bashing-om> !details | sorunbuyuk
[03:16] <Techspectre> Ben64, is having ddrescue write an image of the drive to a file on your good drive a bad idea?
[03:19] <hrzhu> how long will a proposed package take to get into release?
[03:19] <sad> Hi
[03:19] <hrzhu> virtualbox-ext-pack 5.0.16 is released but virtualbox 5.0.16 has been proposed for 20 hours.
[03:19] <sad> I have a problem with synaptis crash dpkg
[03:20] <sad> I dont no what to do
[03:20] <hrzhu> This cause all of my vm failling to launch
[03:21] <sad> I can"t open synaptic package
[03:22] <johnnybravo_> Hello, anyone here?
[03:22] <reisio> johnnybravo_: eyup
[03:23] <compdoc> johnnybravo_, who wants to know?
[03:23] <johnnybravo_> I'm brand new to Ubuntu and Linux. Quick question; the launcher at the top of the screen went missing. I know there's a terminal command to reload it. Anyone know what it is?
[03:23] <johnnybravo_> I'm running Ubuntu Mate 15.10.
[03:25] <hil> johnnybravo_, alt-F2, type unity + ENTER
[03:26] <johnnybravo_> Awesome, thank you.
[03:27] <johnnybravo_> Will that work for Mate as well?
[03:27] <johnnybravo_> Technically I don't think I'm running unity.
[03:27] <squinty> your not
[03:27] <hil>  no
[03:27] <reisio> johnnybravo_: no, it's probably mate-panel
[03:27] <snowgoggles> hrzhu: why don't you rollback your virtualbox package version to the version that was working...then force pin the version until the proposed package you require is released
[03:27] <xangua> johnnybravo_: right clic in the panel, there should be an option to add items
[03:27] <MannyLNJ> Still needing assistance: I had Samba working, I can see the system when I click broswe to network but when I try to connect to it I get thge message failed to retreive share list. I really need help please
[03:27] <reisio> sorunbuyuk: what rest?
[03:28] <johnnybravo_> Ah, that worked. Thank you!
[03:29] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ: are the systems in question both linux based or are you browsing from linux client to non-linux system?
[03:29] <reisio> john-mcaleely: now if you log out & save your session, it will likely persist for future sessions
[03:30] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, for the moment the systems are ubuntu. I will be throwing a win 8.1 system into the mix later. The system I need to put the share on is a laptop with a broken display and no working vga port that has a printer and 2 external drives attached.
[03:30] <bobby_> one quick question what type of data is usually stored under /home/.ecryptfs/Superuser/.Private  ?
[03:30] <jim> Ben64, you were speaking to jim__?
[03:31] <jim> I noticed a hilite
[03:31] <reisio> bobby_: as opposed to?
[03:32] <bobby_> what is that hidden directory .Private used for is what I am asking
[03:33] <snowgoggles> have you changes any file permissions since the last successful samba connection?
[03:33] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, No I haven't
[03:33] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ: have you changes any file permissions since the last successful samba connection?
[03:34] <reisio> bobby_: it's probably just a simple indicator that that directory is "private"
[03:34] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ: kernel updates?
[03:35] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, No, no kerel updates that I am aware of. If you want to see my smb.conf file it's at   http://paste.ubuntu.com/15318750/
[03:38] <bobby_> reisio: oh so it's not generally used for anything defaulted in unbuntu?
[03:38] <Ben64> bobby_: open the folder and look inside
[03:39] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ: what does smbstatus report?
[03:41] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles,  That command shows some errors https://paste.ubuntu.com/15318777/
[03:43] <Jordan_U> bobby_: You've now given two different paths for this directory now, how are you determining the path? What is the output of "ls -l /home/"?
[03:45] <reisio> bobby_: the .ecryptfs dir in general is probably your encrypted /home data
[03:49] <bobby_> total 12
[03:49] <bobby_> drwx------ 56 mx2500 mx2500 12288 Mar  6 20:49 mx2500
[03:51] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ: if smbd is running you could retry restarting manually...it's possible the service may have initial startup issue...aka running on a laptop and they're idiosyncrasies
[03:52] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, would that be '/etc/init.d/smbd restart'
[03:52] <Ben64> sudo service samba restart
[03:52] <vuffie> hello
[03:52] <snowgoggles> you need to place sudo ahead on the commandline
[03:52] <Ben64> MannyLNJ: can you explain the actual problem
[03:53] <vuffie> guys I need some help with the HP Proliant ML110 G6 server
[03:54] <vuffie> I need to either reset it to factory.....settings if that kind of thing is possible or somehow install ubuntu on it,if also, that is possible.
[03:54] <vuffie> can anyone help?
[03:54] <Ben64> vuffie: write ubuntu iso to a usb drive, boot it, install
[03:55] <vuffie> Ben64 is it ok to install ubuntu on the server I mentioned?
[03:55] <MannyLNJ> Ben64 I'm trying to setup a SAMBA share on an Ubuntu system I only connect to via SSH. Media files will go here to be played from a Ubuntu laptop and a windows 8.1 system. The System with the share is "seen" by the Ubuntu laptop if I click browse network but if I then click on the system I get a message that says Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection refused
[03:55] <vuffie> I read it's manual pdf, it said cent os and some windows servers
[03:55] <Ben64> vuffie: sure
[03:56] <Ben64> MannyLNJ: does it work from windows
[03:56] <MannyLNJ> Ben64, No it doesn't
[03:56] <vuffie> Ben64 Thanks
[03:58] <xenon_> Hello, anyone around to help out a Linux newbie with FDE? I have a few partition questions
[03:59] <Ben64> MannyLNJ: go to the ubuntu laptop, and try "smbclient -L <ip of server>"
[03:59] <Ben64> xenon_: and FDE is...?
[03:59] <xenon_> Full disk encryption
[03:59] <Redlance> I'm looking for a recommendation.  I'm setting up a personal web server, which will host maybe 5 domains.  Is there an easier way to configure it, than editing all the .conf files by hand?
[03:59] <xenon_> I'm attempting to set up Ubuntu FDE and getting errors
[04:00] <Ben64> Redlance: once you have a good conf, just use it as a template
[04:01] <MannyLNJ> Ben64, it says Connection to 192.168.1.104 failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)
[04:01] <xenon_> I had configured the partitions via goarted: / -15GB, /boot -1GB, /home -85 GB. When selecting the "something else" during Ubuntu setup, the installer reports that it failed to create the encrypted volume for /
[04:01] <xenon_> *gparted
[04:01] <Ben64> MannyLNJ: now run that from the server
[04:02] <xenon_> Do / AND /home need to be encrypted separately, or can I just encrypt / and when /home is made it's inside / ?
[04:02] <Redlance> Ben64: Okay, thanks.  I was thinking about WebMin, but it seems overkill since I probably won't touch the config once it's up.
[04:02] <Ben64> Redlance: webmin isn't supported on ubuntu btw
[04:02] <MannyLNJ> Ben64, same message.. Yet if I use the loopback IP it displays the shares
[04:03] <Ben64> MannyLNJ: well there you go, you need to have it listen on the external ip
[04:03] <Ben64> xenon_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto
[04:04] <MannyLNJ> Ben64, in smb.conf I do hjave it set to listen on lo and eth0
[04:04] <MannyLNJ> Ben64, could this be a firewall issue?
[04:04] <Ben64> MannyLNJ: if you set up a firewall, yes
[04:05] <MannyLNJ> Ben64, I'm using ufw but I thought I had to allow Samba
[04:06] <Redlance> Ben64: Oh, okay.  And which mail server is the easiest to setup?  I had Postfix running a few (10?) years ago
[04:06] <Ben64> Redlance: i haven't messed with my own email since google apps came out
[04:07] <Redlance> Ben64: Okay, thanks again!
[04:18] <hrzhu> google apps doesn't provide free plan anymore
[04:19] <hrzhu> there was a way to register free google app via google app engine but i don't know it its still available
[04:21] <Redlance> hrzhu: Yeah, I was looking...it looks like it costs $5 per user per month...too high for this server...
[04:23] <hrzhu> Redlance: check this link http://lifehacker.com/5967336/use-google-app-engine-to-get-google-apps-for-your-domain-for-free I don't know if this still work. it worked when google first closed apps free plan.
[04:42] <mbuf> full disk encryption can be done after post-installation, or does it need to be done only during installation?
[04:52] <xangua> mbuf: during it's recommended
[04:54] <mbuf> xanadu_, thanks!
[04:56] <jdoelger> i'm trying to use a remote console (SOL) to enter a password for a cryptsetup encrypted boot disk. i can see text output, but can't input text at the disk's password prompt
[04:57] <jdoelger> am i wrong in thinking this is something i can do?
[04:57] <Gallomimia> no
[04:57] <Gallomimia> your text does not appear when entering a crypto password
[04:57] <Gallomimia> you must type it blind
[04:57] <jdoelger> and i have, but when i press return it doesn't proceed
[04:58] <Gallomimia> doesn't even say wrong passphrase?
[04:58] <jdoelger> not even that
[04:58] <Gallomimia> yeah sounds like its not working. never tried with remote console
[04:58] <jdoelger> once the system is booted, i have a working console over ttyS1 that i can connect to using ipmitool
[04:58] <jdoelger> and during boot, with the same connection, i have text output... but no input
[04:59] <Gallomimia> not that you need input during boot.
[04:59] <Gallomimia> but this part... hm.
[05:04] <CIclops> Hi (14.04.4) Software Updater keeps saying "Failed to download repository information" and "Check your internet connection", which is working, it then says "Some software couldn't be checked for updates" and gives a list of updates, should I install them or change something?
[05:06] <jdoelger> well i have grub's output sent to ttyS1 and i can see that now, and i can see all the boot output, still no input at password prompt
[05:06] <snowgoggles> CIclops: run "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal and see what more specific errors it reports
[05:10] <CIclops> thx snowgoggles .. it says Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[05:13] <snowgoggles> CIclops:  i386 is 32 bit specific package....you may need to updagrade to an amd64 package for Chrome as i googled this error and recently its reporting no more 32 bit versions are being distributed.... http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/fix-failed-to-fetch-google-chrome_3.html
[05:15] <xangua> CIclops: are you using a 32 or 64 bit OS?
[05:16] <CIclops> 64 bit 14.04.4
[05:16] <Bashing-om> CIclops: snowgoggles Google droipped 32 bit suppirt . must now expecitly declare 64 bit . See : http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/fix-failed-to-fetch-google-chrome_3.html  for the resolution .
[05:18] <snowgoggles> CIclops: install the 64 bit chrome and you're golden
[05:21] <CIclops> snowgoggles, should i remove the 32 bit chrome first, if so how?
[05:23] <snowgoggles> CIclops: go to the weblink i provided earlier...follow the removal intructions...it's copy paste commands in a terminal
[05:24] <tablet> do nvdia cards work better than amd cards on ubuntu
[05:33] <CIclops> snowgoggles, thx
[05:34] <xangua> snowgoggles: there's no where in the blog post it says "remove the 32 bit package and install the 64 bit one"
[05:34] <hil> tablet, there is no universal answer to that
[05:35] <xangua> CIclops: you don't have to remove anything, just follow the post instructions
[05:38] <snowgoggles> xangua: i referred him back to the website to follow the instructions
[05:40] <jim__> I have in my task manager display what appears to be a continuously running attempt to install a flash plugin.  It makes no sense.  Here is the command that is running.  " /usr/lib/firefox/plugin-container /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appdir /usr/lib/firefox/browser 2705 true plugin"
[05:42] <jim__> anybody have any explanation of what is going on with flash in that command?
[05:45] <snowgoggles> jim__: possible a dependancy is missing...what repository is your firefox browser coming from?
[05:45] <jim__> not sure, how do I tell?
[05:45] <hil> jim_ , flash plugin activated in firefox?
[05:46] <jim__> hil: it was, then I turned it off to see what would happen, nothing happened.
[05:48] <snowgoggles> jim__:  run this in terminal "apt-cache policy firefox"
[05:48] <jim__> snowgoggles: If I pull up the Ubuntu Software Center, I can see that it is shown as being installed
[05:50] <snowgoggles> jim__: need to verify its source location to eliminate other possible sources i.e. a ppa version
[05:50] <jim__> firefox:
[05:50] <jim__>   Installed: 44.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1
[05:50] <jim__>   Candidate: 44.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1
[05:50] <jim__>   Version table:
[05:50] <jim__>  *** 44.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 0
[05:50] <jim__>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main amd64 Packages
[05:53] <hil> jim__, if you don't want flash at all maybe just try: sudo apt-get remove --purge adobe-flashplugin flashplugin-installer
[05:54] <hil> or maybe  ubuntu-restricted-extras also
[05:54] <snowgoggles> jim__: ok good it's a legit source version....run "sudo apt-get update" does it return any errors?
[05:55] <hil> snowgoggles, sry for interrupting
[05:55] <snowgoggles> hil: no probs
[05:56] <jim__> snowgoggles:  I ran the command and it returned a lot of info with lines beginning with "Get" or "Hit" but I don't believe I see the word "error" anywhere.
[05:58] <snowgoggles> jim__:  errors usually are reported at the end....so that's good your firefox app should be alright......i don't use firefox but there should be a debug or repair option in settings...i don't recall..are you aware of a particular plugin causing the issue?
[06:00] <jim__> snowgoggles: firefox is not performing its normal speedy self.  So I went poking around.  The odd thing I found was that process that looks like it continuously trying to install the flash player
[06:01] <Anthony-L> hello?
[06:01] <totorystal> weird
[06:01] <Anthony-L> i need some help
[06:01] <reisio> 'lo
[06:01] <totorystal> 2333
[06:01] <Anthony-L> i'm trying to play a video game and getting the error. "Could not find OpenGL entry point 'GLGetError'! Either your video card is unsupported or it needs to be updated."
[06:02] <supernoob_ahew> how are most people developing small scale php apps these days? Localhost or inside VM?
[06:03] <reisio> supernoob_ahew: by using python instead
[06:03] <reisio> VM is overkill; some people certainly do it, though
[06:04] <hil> lol, python
[06:04] <totorystal> lol,cpp
[06:04] <reisio> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE#Example_1
[06:04] <virtuosoj> anyone else here running 16.04 beta? I just installed
[06:05] <somsip> !16.04 | virtuosoj
[06:05] <totorystal> reisio what?
[06:05] <virtuosoj> I'm noticing that GNOME software doesn't have any version numbers
[06:05] <reisio> totorystal: ?
[06:06] <reisio> virtuosoj: ?
[06:06] <totorystal> reisio this url is about what?
[06:06] <Anthony-L> i'm trying to play a video game and getting the error.
[06:06] <Anthony-L>                    "Could not find OpenGL entry point 'GLGetError'! Either your
[06:06] <hil> lolcode rox
[06:07] <virtuosoj> ok some programs have version number... a lot just don't
[06:07] <Anthony-L> whoa, sry for that.
[06:07] <reisio> totorystal: stuff & things
[06:07]  * totorystal 
[06:07] <MannyLNJ> Having a NEW problem connecting to a Samba share on one Ubuntu system from another. New error is failed to mount windows share cannot allocate memory
[06:07] <hil> .oO( harhar )
[06:09] <snowgoggles> jim__: try disabling some of your plugins and restart firefox...worst case.....clear broswing history/data/cache
[06:10] <somsip> MannyLNJ: would the last fix on this page help any (needs a proper read through) http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/108695/mount-cifs-mount-error12-cannot-allocate-memory
[06:11] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ:  i think your samba issue is permissions related....were you able to restart the smbd service?
[06:11] <OnceMe> I have one dev mounted to /
[06:11] <OnceMe> which is 100G
[06:11] <OnceMe> and other dev mounted to /home which is 100G
[06:11] <OnceMe> does that mean I can use in total of 200G inside /home
[06:12] <OnceMe> because one dev is on / which is 100G?
[06:12] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, Yes I was, The smbclient -L now works
[06:12] <OnceMe> or I can only use 100G for /home?
[06:13] <hil> just 100
[06:13] <Anthony-L> anyone have any input on video games and opengl error?
[06:13] <PonyToast> Hey folks...I'm completely new to linux. I have had ubuntu for all of two hours and I've already broken my first thing. Anyone willing to help me with what is probably a super basic stupidity on my end?
[06:13] <OnceMe> ??
[06:13] <reisio> PonyToast: this is the place
[06:14] <hrzhu> what's your graphic card and driver? I have problem with playing dota2 with nvidia-361 recnently. rollbacking to nvidia-352 solve the problem.
[06:14] <PonyToast> So...I started following some super basic tutorials on things. Ran across this one because it seemed easy enough: http://www.unixmen.com/install-conky-lua-ubuntu-14-0413-1013-04-debian-fedora-linux-mint-opensuse/
[06:15] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ: if i recall your smb.conf looked a little inconsistent at the end where you have your share permissions...have you changed any settings in that file lately?
[06:15] <hil> OnceMe, it is not 'inside'. it might even be its own device
[06:15] <PonyToast> followed it to the letter and it throws a "no such file or direcotry" error
[06:15] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, yes I got webmin installed on the headless system and used it
[06:17] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15319413 is my current config
[06:17] <reisio> PonyToast: let us see what nonsense you have been reading...
[06:18] <somsip> !webmin | MannyLNJ (be warned)
[06:18] <reisio> PonyToast: what throws 'no such file or directory'?
[06:19] <hil> OnceMe, if you want it to share all 200G , don't do an extra /home partition
[06:19] <OnceMe> its VPS
[06:19] <OnceMe> thats why
[06:20] <OnceMe> also why my microphone not work on skype on ubuntu?
[06:20] <MannyLNJ> Thanks for the warning about webmin. I won't use it after I fix the File Sharing problem. I'm more successful than I was earler. At least the share itself shows mnow
[06:20] <OnceMe> I see pulse audio as output and input in skype
[06:20] <OnceMe> but not working
[06:20] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ:  so this .conf file is exactly the same as when it was working before or changed?  You cannot view the share still?
[06:21] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, slightly changed, Now I see the share in the browser but cannot connect. Before I couldn't even see the system
[06:22] <hil> OnceMe, just in skype?
[06:23] <OnceMe> yes
[06:23] <OnceMe> well dunno
[06:23] <OnceMe> how to test if is just skype?
[06:23] <OnceMe> yeah its in skype only
[06:23] <OnceMe> just tested
[06:23] <OnceMe> :(
[06:23] <reisio> PonyToast: yeah, this is a weird tut, that makes you create directories via the GUI file manager... and then edit files via ... vi
[06:24] <PonyToast> apparently it's also not correct, I put the conkyrc file into the folder and it works
[06:24] <reisio> PonyToast: try conky -c ~/.conky/conkyrc
[06:24] <PonyToast> that was two hours of searching wasted...i guess I'll have to get used to that with this OS :P
[06:24] <reisio> PonyToast: seems like they're trying to put conkyrc somewhere other than default for ... unspecified reasons
[06:25] <reisio> PonyToast: I think you'll have a better time if you assume things will just work, rather than seeking out and relying upon random bloggers
[06:25] <reisio> just installing conky and running 'conky', it will work
[06:25] <reisio> it'll use the default rc file location
[06:25] <reisio> there won't ever be a question as to whether it exists
[06:25] <PonyToast> it all works now.
[06:25] <PonyToast> Thank you so much :)
[06:26] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ: what operating system are you viewing the samba share from?
[06:26] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, trying to view it from another ubuntu system
[06:27] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ: does it not prompt for authentication?
[06:27] <OnceMe> hil: any help?
[06:31] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, yes it promoptyes and after entering the user it says failed to mount windows share cannot allocate memory
[06:34] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ: do you have a smbusers file under /etc/samba ?
[06:35] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, no. There is no smbusers under /etc/samba
[06:36] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ: ok...things are starting to make a bit more sense now....so if you never had a smbusers file then it was never properly mapping a local linux account with a samba account
[06:36] <hil> OnceMe, maybe try to sudo apt-get remove --purge skype, remove the .config/Skype and .skype , then reinstall it
[06:36] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, would that me smbadduser?
[06:37] <hil> Since pulseaudio seems to work fine
[06:37] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ:  that's a command to add users yes
[06:38] <MannyLNJ> snowgogsudo: smbadduser: command not found      did I mistype it?
[06:39] <Anthony-L> anyoen here game on ubuntu?
[06:39] <somsip> Anthony-L: just ask your real question and someone will answer if they can
[06:40] <Anthony-L> trying to run a video game on steam and am getting 'could not find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError
[06:40] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ:  follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20(Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal)%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way!
[06:40] <somsip> Anthony-L: what game, what version of ubuntu?
[06:41] <Anthony-L> team fortress 2, ubuntu 15.10, i believe
[06:41] <linux> hey i cant set google as my search engine in linux mint(firefox)
[06:41] <somsip> Anthony-L: and what video card/drivers?
[06:42] <Anthony-L> nvidia gtx 970, running proprietary drivers 361.28
[06:42] <somsip> Anthony-L: have a read through this - looks like some information might help you, especially last comment maybe? https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Counter-Strike-Global-Offensive/issues/610
[06:42] <linux> piz helpme
[06:43] <linux> help me
[06:43] <somsip> !mint | linux
[06:43] <linux> thank you
[06:47] <MannyLNJ> snowgoggles, still no good but too tired to continue
[06:48] <snowgoggles> MannyLNJ: OK...but its a permission issue...when you're rested just follow the instructions
[06:49] <hrzhu> Anthony-L: rolling back to nvidia 352 will probably solve your prolem
[06:51] <Anthony-L> actually, that last comment helped me. however, i put the '__GLVND_DISALLOW_PATCHING=1 steam'
[06:51] <Anthony-L> i have to do this every time. it doesn't save to the config.
[06:51] <somsip> Anthony-L: export it in ~/.profile or ~/.bash_aliases
[06:52] <Anthony-L> type that in the terminal?
[06:53] <hrzhu> Anthony-L: for steam games on linux, github issues is good place to get support this is relevent bug report for dota2 https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota-2/issues/756
[06:53] <somsip> Anthony-L: like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[06:53] <hrzhu> Anthony-L: actually i mean valvo games
[06:54] <Anthony-L> yea, i'm a new ubuntu user today.
[06:54] <somsip> Anthony-L: ah ok - does that link help you or do you want more help?
[06:55] <hateball> Anthony-L: you can also change the launch command for affected games to be "__GLVND_DISALLOW_PATCHING=1 %command%"
[06:55] <Anthony-L> you guys are all speaking another language. haha
[06:55] <Anthony-L> bare with me
[06:56] <hateball> Anthony-L: Rightclick a game, properties, click the button for launch command, paste in the string above
[06:56] <Anthony-L> do i have to do that for every game?
[06:57] <hateball> Anthony-L: Yes. Or do it globally as per the link somsip gave you, using .profile
[06:58] <Anthony-L> yes, i have the link. it all looks like gibberish to me though.
[06:58] <somsip> Anthony-L: when you log in (and at other times) the commands in ~/.profile are executed. This sets a variable that is used in your whole working environment (hence, environmental variables) so it is available and applies to anything you do and any program you run
[06:59] <somsip> Anthony-L: if you want step-by-step help, just ask
[06:59] <Anthony-L> okay, i'll type the ~/.profile in the terminal
[06:59] <somsip> Anthony-L: edit it, using something like nano or gedit
[07:00] <Anthony-L> somsip, can i screen share with you or something?
[07:00] <somsip> Anthony-L: no, can you open a terminal ok?
[07:00] <Anthony-L> yes, it's open.
[07:01] <hateball> Anthony-L: Letting random people take control over your computer is probably not a great idea
[07:01] <Anthony-L> hateball, i have nothing on this computer. i just installed ubuntu. i have nothing to lose. :)
[07:01] <somsip> Anthony-L: nano ~/.profile
[07:01] <jonascj> I see references to advanced ubuntu installation (i.e. install into existing btrfs subvolumes can apparently be done in advanced mode). Where is this advanced mode?
[07:02] <Anthony-L> somsip, ok
[07:02] <somsip> Anthony-L: Go down to the bottom line with arrows and add the line "__GLVND...etc...=1"
[07:03] <Anthony-L> ok
[07:03] <somsip> Anthony-L: CTRL O (will save) then CTRL X (will exit)
[07:04] <Anthony-L> ctrl x doesn't exit...
[07:04] <EriC^^> you have to press enter
[07:04] <somsip> EriC^^: thanks
[07:04] <EriC^^> np
[07:04] <Anthony-L> there we go
[07:04] <somsip> Anthony-L: in terminal, "cat ~/.profile" to make sure it's added ok
[07:04] <Anthony-L> yea, thanks eric. haha, i litterally need step by step instructions.
[07:04] <Anthony-L> i'm super new
[07:04] <jonascj> Is it the alternate CDs which are used for advanced install?
[07:05] <somsip> Anthony-L: np - we've all been there
[07:05] <Anthony-L> it's in there somsip
[07:05] <Anthony-L> it's below the fi, last night basically.
[07:05] <Anthony-L> let me test it
[07:05] <somsip> Anthony-L: my bad - I forgot to tell you to make it "export __GLVND..."
[07:06] <Anthony-L> ok, so? what now?
[07:06] <somsip> Anthony-L: it will work in that terminal, but you need to reedit it. I'm doing too many things at once :-/
[07:06] <somsip> Anthony-L: nano it again, add "export" to the line, CTRL O, CTRL X {enter}
[07:06] <Anthony-L> oh lord
[07:07] <Anthony-L> i can't scroll up on this irssi thing to see.
[07:07] <somsip> Anthony-L: nano ~/.profile
[07:07] <somsip> Anthony-L: {page up to scroll irssi}
[07:07] <Anthony-L> ok i typed in nano
[07:08] <somsip> Anthony-L: go down to the line you added, and put "export" at the front so it's "export __GLVDN..."
[07:09] <Anthony-L> you want a space in between the export and _
[07:09] <Anthony-L> ?
[07:09] <somsip> Anthony-L: yes
[07:09] <ghazi> hi
[07:09] <Anthony-L> ok, ctrl o and ctrl x. correct?
[07:09] <somsip> Anthony-L: yep
[07:09] <reisio> hi Guest56977
[07:10] <Anthony-L> ok, how do i test again?
[07:10] <Anthony-L> to see if it's there?
[07:10] <somsip> Anthony-L: type "source ~/.profile"
[07:10] <Anthony-L> doesn't work.
[07:10] <somsip> Anthony-L: sorry, to check it "cat ~/.profile"
[07:10] <alpaca_sida_xD> eyyy buenas a todos guapisimos aqui vegetta777 en un gameplay en directo de maincraft
[07:11] <Anthony-L> okay, it's there.
[07:11] <Anthony-L> let me test my game/steam now
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Anthony-L: irssi tip, "/lastlog Anthony-L" will re-print all lines to or from you, "/lastlog -clear" will clear the lines just printed by lastlog. Also, page up and pahe down work.
[07:11] <somsip> Anthony-L: so "source ~/.profile" loads the file and sets that variable. Run "steam" from that terminal to test it
[07:11] <Anthony-L> i can run steam from the GUI though. correct? i know that's not the cool computer whiz way. :P
[07:12] <somsip> Anthony-L: after you've logged out/in you will be able to
[07:12] <Anthony-L> okay. :)
[07:12] <somsip> Anthony-L: for now, quick test from the terminal should show if it worked
[07:13] <Anthony-L> somsip, it worked from the terminal.
[07:14] <somsip> Anthony-L: k - so log out/in whenever is convenient, and run steam from the terminal in the meantime. That should sort you out. *However* if they fix this in the next nvidea drivers, you may want to remove that line. I have no idea what it actually does
[07:14] <Anthony-L> it doesn't work from the GUI, which is fine. i don't mind. i need to get better at using the CLI anyway.
[07:16] <Anthony-L> somsip, thanks for your help.
[07:16] <somsip> Anthony-L: np
[07:16] <Anthony-L> you're the man.
[07:17] <Anthony-L> somsip, do i just leave the terminal open since steam is running?
[07:17] <Anthony-L> i noticed when i close the terminal, it closes steam also.
[07:17] <somsip> Anthony-L: for now, it's probably easier to do that. There are ways to avoid it, but depends how much more you want to learn today :)
[07:17] <Anthony-L> haha
[07:18] <Anthony-L> linux is awesome. it's actually fun figure things out. however, i still don't understand all the gibberish commands.
[07:18] <JamesT1995> if you run a program in terminal, it means you are actually running if from terminal, so if you close therminal, you also clsoe the app the terminal is running
[07:18] <Anthony-L> what's sudo again? super dude?
[07:19] <somsip> Anthony-L: Super User DO
[07:19] <Anthony-L> o ok
[07:19] <Anthony-L> thanks james
[07:19] <Anthony-L> and somsip
[07:19] <somsip> Anthony-L: taught my 8 yeard old sudo yesterday. Now I can say "sudo get in that shower". Geek kids eh :)
[07:19] <Anthony-L> haha
[07:19] <dax> i taught my cat sudo. he still doesn't listen to me though :(
[07:19] <somsip> dax: Can'
[07:20] <somsip> dax: catsd are super users. Anyway...
[07:21] <JamesT1995> somsip: i was only trying to explain my wife that everything she does in GUI is actually translated into commands and commands into numbers, she wasn’t getting it lol
[07:22] <reisio> she probably has better things to store in her head
[07:22] <JamesT1995> reisio: well she was asking me what nonsense i was typing on the keyboard… haha
[07:23] <Anthony-L> so, what's some fun things to do with ubuntu?
[07:23] <somsip> Anthony-L: earn money. Which reminds me, back to work...
[07:24] <Anthony-L> where's the money tree on this?
[07:24] <Anthony-L> what's the command for print money?
[07:24] <Anthony-L> :P
[07:25] <jonascj> Noone knows about advace ubuntu installer? (I don't, but I keep seeing references to it, so I'd like to find out how to use it)
[07:26] <dax> maybe they mean the text (debian-installer) installer on the mini ISO?
[07:26] <dax> !mini
[07:27] <dax> or maybe they mean the option in the graphical installer to specify partitions oneself instead of using guided partitioning. i'm unsure about what that supports these days.
[07:28] <MinatoNamikaze> My ubuntu hang on Started GNOME display manager after power gone
[07:29] <MinatoNamikaze> Sorry for bad english
[07:30] <jonascj> dax: I don't think they mean the "Something else" in the graphical installer. So maybe it is the debian text installer
[08:05] <Guest18670> hello
[08:05] <Guest18670> i have installed ddns3-client where can i find configuration file for it on ubuntu?
[08:06] <Guest18670> i have installed ddns3-client where can i find configuration file for it on ubuntu?
[08:06] <Anthony-L> does ubuntu use screensavers?
[08:07] <dax> Guest18670: looks like /etc/default/ddns3-client is one possible location
[08:08] <Guest18670> dax, i dont see ddns3-client there
[08:10] <Guest18670> dax, how can i find it?
[08:11] <dax> Guest18670: which version of Ubuntu are you using, and did you get ddns3-client from Ubuntu's repositories (apt-get etc.) or somehow else?
[08:12] <Guest18670> dax, i am on ubuntu 14.04 LTS yes i got it with sudo apt-get install ddn3-client
[08:12] <dax> curious. http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/ddns3-client/filelist says /etc/default/ddns3-client should be there.
[08:13] <Guest18670> i found that
[08:19] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[08:19] <yellabs-r2> what do you use for video conference on your ubuntu desktop ?
[08:21] <yellabs-r2> tips are welcome ..
[08:21] <yellabs-r2> :)
[08:21] <hil> try firefox Hello
[08:22] <hil> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/hello/
[08:24] <yellabs-r2> hil does it work alright ?
[08:25] <hil> yellabs-r2, tested only once, worked fine
[08:25] <yellabs-r2> how did it work for you / how many did you connect to ?
[08:26] <hil> skype works also, but client is old and not developed further by microsoft it seems
[08:26] <yellabs-r2> yes i know
[08:26] <yellabs-r2> thats why we are looking for alternatives
[08:26] <yellabs-r2> i see that firefox hello is beta
[08:26] <hil> google hangouts should work also
[08:29] <hil> Slack is planning video support later this year, but not yet. More team specific. https://slack.com/
[08:30] <yellabs-r2> yes i just tested slack with appear plugin
[08:31] <JamesT1995> Slack was almost bought by MS
[08:32] <hil> http://ekiga.org/ is another option
[08:32] <dax> jitsi's another option, though I haven't used it in a while
[08:32] <dax> Google Hangouts works too
[08:32] <dax> oh, hil said that one already :)
[08:33] <hil>  ;)
[08:34] <reisio> yellabs-r2: hello uses webrtc, which requires nothing but a web browser
[08:34] <reisio> skype et al. are dead
[08:34] <reisio> http://talky.io/ (and a thousand others)
[08:35] <hil> ...and more will come as webRTC is now really usable
[08:36] <reisio> shame, really, I think Microsoft used more GNU/Linux installations for Skype than for anything else they do
[08:57] <gialinh> hi body
[08:57] <ck_mfc> hi
[09:12] <UbuntuDude> anyone knows why cal -m isn't not working on ubuntu?
[09:13] <popey> UbuntuDude: work here, asks for the month number
[09:13] <popey> so "cal -m 3"
[09:15] <somsip> UbuntuDude: in what context?
[09:15] <alexo1001> Well hello there
[09:15] <alexo1001> Anyone here?
[09:15] <alexo1001> m8's??
[09:15] <alexo1001> m8ette's?
[09:15] <parisa> Hi
[09:15] <somsip> alexo1001: it's a support channel. What's your question?
[09:16] <alexo1001> ah
[09:16] <alexo1001> ok
[09:16] <alexo1001> bye
[09:16] <parisa> I have this error massage
[09:16] <parisa> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:16] <somsip> parisa: you'll need to paste the whole thing
[09:16] <somsip> !paste | parisa
[09:18] <xdau> #joint velox
[09:18] <parisa> somsip, http://pastebin.com/AUDhDP8t
[09:19] <parisa> somsip, Here is the All thing i have run
[09:19] <Sina> Dear friends anyone from canonical is here ?
[09:20] <somsip> parisa: try the solution here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27113554/android-studio-installation
[09:20] <UbuntuDude> popey, somsip it says -m Display Monday as the first day of the week.
[09:20] <somsip> parisa: then reinstall android-studio afterwards, if you still want it
[09:20] <Mchammerdad> Anyone have any tips for successfully setting up 3 monitors over 2 graphics cards?
[09:21] <popey> UbuntuDude: what version of ubuntu?
[09:21] <somsip> UbuntuDude: no - specified month with today highlighted when -m is used
[09:21] <Guest6905> Dear friends anyone from canonical is here ?
[09:21] <popey> Guest6905: yes
[09:21] <UbuntuDude> somsip: can you give example of that?
[09:21] <somsip> UbuntuDude: like popey  said, cal -m 3
[09:22] <UbuntuDude> how can I make monday the first day of the week?
[09:22] <popey> yeah, cal -m 3, on my machine, shows march with 7th highlighted
[09:22] <Guest6905> hi popey i send you several emails but it seems that nothing happens . so can you give me the sales email address or person which can i directly email him
[09:22] <popey> UbuntuDude: -M
[09:22] <UbuntuDude> it's not working popey
[09:23] <parisa> somsip, I tried but the problem still remains
[09:23] <UbuntuDude> I've tried it already
[09:23] <popey> UbuntuDude: ncal -M works, oddly
[09:23] <somsip> parisa: how does 'apt-get purge android-studio' respond?
[09:23] <Guest6905> hi popey i send you several emails but it seems that nothing happens . so can you give me the sales email address or person which can i directly email him
[09:24] <popey> Guest6905: lets take this to pm
[09:31] <lvleph> I am trying to make a keymap for my presenter, because unfortunately it has the same id as another device. Anyway, when I try xev and xinput test it doesn't even register the keypress. What do I do? It does show up in lsusb and dmesg doesn't show any problems.
[10:09] <avcoe> hi
[10:10] <avcoe_> hi
[10:11] <donught> ugg im loving 16.04 but nothing is compiled for it XDD
[10:12] <somsip> !16.04 | donught
[10:15] <Trioxin> I see that apparmor comes preinstalled. Do I need to do any configuring for it or is it by default helping to isolate things like firefox?
[10:16] <Trioxin> I'm also using firejail
[10:20] <lvleph> I am trying to make a keymap for my presenter, because unfortunately it has the same id as another device. Anyway, when I try xev and xinput test it doesn't even register the keypress. What do I do? The presenter does show up in lsusb and dmesg doesn't show any problems.
[10:22] <billynegwoo> #pathwar-fr
[10:30] <liu> gello
[10:47] <Mchammerdad> I just dd'd a drive to my windows Server. When trying to mount it from my main machine I get an error.
[10:47] <Mchammerdad> Failed to read last sector (955303934): Invalid argument
[10:47] <Mchammerdad> HINTS: Either the volume is a RAID/LDM but it wasn't setup yet,
[10:47] <Mchammerdad>    or it was not setup correctly (e.g. by not using mdadm --build ...),
[10:47] <Mchammerdad>    or a wrong device is tried to be mounted,
[10:47] <Mchammerdad>    or the partition table is corrupt (partition is smaller than NTFS),
[10:48] <pawiecki> Hello! How can I add dns server on ubuntu 14.04 server?
[10:49] <Mchammerdad> run the tasksel command. from a terminal.
[10:50] <ThisIsNoBody> using network-manager ?
[10:50] <micrsoftbot> using
[10:51] <pawiecki> Mchammerdad: I mean to add ip of external dns server, using whatever is default in ubuntu 14.04 :)
[10:51] <micrsoftbot> Mchammerdad:
[10:52] <pawiecki> The documentation is not helpful on this issue, or I'm looking in the wrong place: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/tcpip.html
[10:52] <micrsoftbot> The
[10:52] <ThisIsNoBody> i did it but in desktop i dont know about server editon
[10:52] <micrsoftbot> i
[10:55] <ThisIsNoBody> why does user ip show up?
[10:55] <UbuntuMate> why
[10:55] <Mchammerdad> pawiecki: Sorry I misunderstood, just add your dns server to /etc/resolv.conf.
[10:55] <UbuntuMate> pawiecki:
[10:56] <Mchammerdad> pawiecki: or you can use this method. http://askubuntu.com/questions/346838/how-do-i-configure-my-dns-settings-in-ubuntu-server
[10:57] <pawiecki> Mchammerdad: but there's this line inside that file: #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[10:57] <UbuntuMate> Mchammerdad:
[10:57] <Aaran> Hi my system keeps locking up for short periods of time usually 2-10 seconds, how can I best go about figuring out whats causing it?
[10:57] <UbuntuMate> Hi
[10:58] <Mchammerdad> pawiecki: What, you listen to scary warnings by the filesystem? :)
[10:58] <UbuntuMate> pawiecki:
[10:59] <Mchammerdad> Really though, the link I posted is the "recommended" method of setting a static DNS server.
[10:59] <UbuntuMate> Really
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> UbuntuMate  are you a bot?
[11:01] <UbuntuMate> UbuntuMate
[11:01] <ThisIsNoBody> http://askubuntu.com/questions/58781/resolv-conf-keeps-getting-reset-by-something
[11:01] <UbuntuMate> http://askubuntu.com/questions/58781/resolv
[11:01] <pawiecki> Mchammerdad: Thanks, the linked method is simple and works. It would be nice, if I could find this information inside documentation, but... oh well :)
[11:03] <Aaran> Any advice?
[11:03] <UbuntuMate> Any
[11:03] <ThisIsNoBody> about what?
[11:03] <UbuntuMate> about
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> !ops | UbuntuMate is a bot
[11:03] <UbuntuMate> !ops
[11:03] <UbuntuMate> UbuntuMate
[11:05] <pawiecki> why is he repeating stuff?
[11:05] <UbuntuMate> why
[11:05] <chika> hello
[11:05] <UbuntuMate> hello
[11:05] <pawiecki> aah, now i understand
[11:05] <UbuntuMate> aah,
[11:05] <pawiecki> so we have somebody to talk to :)
[11:05] <UbuntuMate> so
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> echolalia
[11:06] <pawiecki> they killed our friend :(
[11:06] <Mchammerdad> pawiecki: Run "man interfaces" for internal documentation.
[11:08] <Aaran> My system keeps locking up for short periods of time usually 2-10 seconds, how can I best go about figuring out whats causing it?
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> Aaran  what ubuntu version? define 'locking up', does it require your password? when did it start?
[11:11] <Aaran> 4.2.0-29-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 8 16:57:47 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux, by locking up I mean a period of time where I can still move the mouse but clicking does nothing neither does typing
[11:11] <Aaran> however if I am in a document when it happens after it has finished the words I type appear
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> Aaran  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[11:12] <Aaran> Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> Aaran  and what DE? Unity?
[11:12] <kzUu9oUivS> Aaran
[11:12] <Aaran> Cinnamon
[11:12] <kzUu9oUivS> Cinnamon
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> kzUu9oUivS  blah
[11:13] <kzUu9oUivS> kzUu9oUivS
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> the channel is under attack
[11:13] <kzUu9oUivS> the
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> Aaran  CPU speed comes to mind ... install indicator-cpufreq, an interactive applet
[11:19] <Aaran> Ok 1 min
[11:19] <Myrtti> hm
[11:19] <d2aDH1JqA4zbUKl> hm
[11:19] <Aaran> will this log lockups? or do I need to keep an eye on it and see what its doing when the lockup happens
[11:19] <d2aDH1JqA4zbUKl> will
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> Aaran  it lets you change the cpu speed, hopefully preventing the lockups in doing so
[11:22] <Aaran> Ok I ran it from the terminal all I am seeing is an icon in the taskbar with the options of either powersave or performance
[11:22] <Aaran> I changed it to preformance
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> Aaran  odd, i have 4 options here, conservative and ondemand, too
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: hi
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[11:24] <linux_> hello everyone
[11:25] <Aaran> will closing the terminal and closing the application cause it to default back to power save ?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> Aaran  what happens when you try
[11:25] <Guest46028> hello
[11:26] <Aaran> well the icon disappears so I am unsure if it drops out of performance or not
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> Aaran  launch it again to find if it has changed ... but has your machine's performance improved?
[11:27] <Guest46028> i have configured ddns3-client file how can i run that now on ubuntu?
[11:27] <Guest46028> i have configured ddns3-client file how can i run that now on ubuntu?
[11:29] <Aaran> well closing the terminal did not help, I opened the menu bar typed terminal clicked the terminal icon then the computer locked for 38 seconds
[11:29] <eMlZusvklQ0OhSW> well
[11:29] <Aaran> its still in performance however
[11:30] <Guest46028> i have configured ddns3-client file how can i run that now on ubuntu?
[11:30] <XIf6X9KRSJFHNQt> i
[11:33] <mikul_> I am trying to modify a bash script that translate selected text to english, so that it can take text from skype as well (ergo i want to delete all timestamps thats in brackets).. I've gotten it to work, but the output is on one line.. so now i am wondering if anyone can help me get all lines on new lines so its easier to read.  here is what i've got so far: http://pastebin.com/C2eNt6hP
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> mikul_  that's more for the #bash channel
[11:34] <mikul_> ok ty
[11:37] <Aaran> any other ideas on tracking down the problem?
[11:38] <mikul_> i've posted it in #bash as well but if anyone got a clue i'm open for help ;-)
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> Aaran: best to re-ask your issue here once in a while so others can try to help
[11:43] <Aaran> ok thanks
[11:45] <humbot> possibly find more people with cinnamon experience on the mint server
[11:45] <Anticom> Hi all. I want to install createrepo on my host to build some meta data for rpm repositories. However i saw in dependencies of createrepo package, that it depends on rpm and yum. Now i'm afraid of installing createrepo and replacing dpkg + apt.
[11:45] <Anticom> which i don't want obviously
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> !repo | Anticom can this help?
[11:47] <Jakey3> how would i route my openvpn though a different port? the usual port is blocked
[11:47] <Anticom> I just wanted to know, whether installing rpm+yum replaces my dpkg+apt
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | Jakey3
[11:49] <Jakey3> doesnt mention about changing the port?
[11:49] <k1l_> Anticom: that doesnt work on ubuntu.
[11:49] <Anticom> k1l_: what exactly doesn't work?
[11:50] <k1l_> ah, sorry missed the info form the question before
[11:50] <Anticom> ^_^
[11:50] <Anticom> Basically i just need the createrepo utility. I've got a directory of rpm's and i want to populate the metadata for it
[11:50] <k1l_> Anticom: if you install a package and it will remove another one apt will ask you if you want to do that
[11:51] <Anticom> k1l_: I just don't want to mess up my machine and invest time to fix it again
[11:51] <k1l_> !info yum
[11:56] <vooze> Hi, after reinstaling windows on my secound drive, I had to use ubuntu live usb to do grub-install again, that worked well, but now my EFI partition (boot/efi) is broken. What tool do I need to recreate it?
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: ^^ waky waky :p
[11:57] <EriC^^> lol
[11:57] <EriC^^> :D
[11:57] <EriC^^> vooze: chroot and mkdir -p /boot/efi , make sure it's mounted and everything and then grub-install
[11:57] <EriC^^> and update-grub
[11:58] <vooze> EriC^^, awesome, let me try :) 2 secs
[11:59] <EriC^^> vooze: did you ever switch the efi files so that it worked?
[11:59] <afrokarlsson> hi, do you know, that in land is church police one leg man and normal man, and in sea is 2 left hand womans and 3 normal womans
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> !ot | afrokarlsson
[12:01] <Bitrix> ubottu: afrokarlsson: #ubuntu-offtopic, keep that in mind karlsson
[12:02] <vooze> EriC^^, not sure what you mean. I have Windows on a secound drive, so Ubuntu is on its own drive/SSD. I then used ubuntu live usb and mounted /dev/sda3 as /mnt and then sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /sda -- Then I noticed sda1 (boot/efi) was not mounting so I had to S(Skip) and then I tried fixing it with deleting the partition but was unable to recreate it. Now its just an "empty" FAT32 partition with boot flag.
[12:02] <vooze> EriC^^, any way to recreate it?
[12:03] <shafox> I just upgraded from 14.04 to 15.10 using sudo do-release-upgrade and now it has restarted but it's just stuck after started light display manager
[12:03] <EriC^^> vooze: yeah, follow the steps i mentioned, also make sure it's in /etc/fstab with the new UUID
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> shafox: thats not recommended to do
[12:03] <EriC^^> ( sudo blkid to get the UUID )
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> shafox: clean install instead
[12:03] <vooze> EriC^^, I assume from live USB ?
[12:03] <EriC^^> vooze: yes
[12:03] <vooze> EriC^^, okay, will try
[12:04] <shafox> lotuspsychje: you are saying shouldn't use upgrade at all ? Only clean install ?
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> shafox: your trying to upgrade from LTS to non LTS skipping ubuntu versions
[12:05] <shafox> lotuspsychje: I followed it showed me. Is there anyway I can do a LTS release upgrade ?
[12:05] <vooze> EriC^^, should I mount sda1 as /mnt/boot/efi ?
[12:05] <craptalk> can i change irssi background theme?
[12:06] <Nicholas1> that depends upon the irc client ur using craptalk
[12:06] <craptalk> i cant seem to do it since i changed few times and only its font that changes
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> shafox: from 14.04 it will goto 16.04 but its still in developing phase right now
[12:06] <EriC^^> vooze: yeah
[12:06] <craptalk> Nicholas1: explain to me about which client
[12:06] <Nicholas1> lotuspsychje what is instat call back error 71
[12:07] <shafox> lotuspsychje: ok
[12:07] <Nicholas1> i am getting these messages in my kernel
[12:08] <tori> Hi All
[12:08] <tori> I am getting "Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message"
[12:09] <vooze> EriC^^, and then after I sudo chroot /mnt I should: sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/ sda?
[12:09] <vooze> EriC^^: or another boot-directory ?
[12:10] <EriC^^> vooze: no, just sudo grub-install
[12:10] <tori> I have put "ServerName localhost" in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and /etc/host is also fine
[12:10] <tori> can anyone help me in resolving this error??
[12:10] <Nicholas1> what is instat callback error 71 lotuspsychje?
[12:11] <Nicholas1> i am getting these errors . please help
[12:11] <Nicholas1> though my 3g modem is working fine
[12:11] <shafox> Right now I have a screen that says processes are being started and ng started and it is stuck. What's the next step.
[12:11] <vooze> EriC^^, It says I need to specify --target or --directory
[12:12] <tori> I even put "ServerName localhost" in  /etc/apache2/httpd.conf file
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> shafox: clean install, your system might be borked upgrading like that
[12:12] <EriC^^> vooze: is /etc/fstab correct?
[12:14] <totorystal> why can't say in channel ##linux
[12:15] <vooze> EriC^^, yes, I just put the new UUID in.
[12:15] <shafox> lotuspsychje: no other way to fix it ?
[12:15] <andrew_> hi all .. any exp with bitnami lamp?
[12:15] <vooze> EriC^^, grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.
[12:15] <andrew_> i installed lamp on ubuntu alongside bitnami on 8080 and now bitnami not start
[12:16] <bazhang> !info bitnami
[12:16] <andrew_> ok
[12:16] <EriC^^> vooze: which grub packages do you have installed?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> shafox: the way you upgraded is not the recommended way mate, why not start over clean to avoid troubles?
[12:16] <EriC^^> vooze: type dpkg -l | grep grub
[12:16] <vooze> EriC^^, it one fro 14.04.4 live
[12:17] <EriC^^> it's using the installed one now cause you're chroot'd
[12:18] <vooze> oh 2 secs
[12:18] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:19] <tori> Hi All,,
[12:19] <vooze> goddamit, where is | on a US keyboard :D
[12:20] <tori>  I am getting "Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message"
[12:20] <andrew_> lol
[12:20] <andrew_> vooze.. shift and slash?
[12:20] <tori> I have put "ServerName localhost" in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and /etc/host is also fine
[12:20] <graps> BluesKaj: Good morning
[12:20] <tori> I even put "ServerName localhost" in  /etc/apache2/httpd.conf file
[12:20] <tori> Can anyone help me?
[12:20] <BluesKaj> hi graps
[12:21] <vooze> andrew_, thanks:d
[12:21] <andrew_> np
[12:21] <andrew_> glad to help
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> tori: maybe the ##httpd guys can help?
[12:21] <vooze> EriC^^, 2.02-beta2-0
[12:22] <vooze> EriC^^, 2.02-beta2-9 *
[12:22] <EriC^^> vooze: which package arch?
[12:22] <EriC^^> vooze: type dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:23] <tori> lotuspsychje_: what is the channel name for httpd?
[12:23] <djashdjasdhaskjd> d
[12:23] <djashdjasdhaskjd> hi
[12:23] <djashdjasdhaskjd> go away
[12:23] <djashdjasdhaskjd> ghost!
[12:25] <vooze> EriC^^, okay thats weird. I cant use internet from chroot :/
[12:25] <EriC^^> vooze: open another terminal and type sudo mount --bind /run /mnt/run
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> tori: #httpd
[12:25] <tori> lotuspsychje: Thank u :)
[12:26] <vooze> EriC^^, there we go :D http://termbin.com/u4az
[12:28] <EriC^^> vooze: looks ok, try apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64{,-bin,-signed} grub{,2}-common
[12:32] <shafox> lotuspsychje: I get what you are trying to say. So I will backup everything using a live USB and then do reinstall correct ?
[12:33] <vooze> EriC^^, some weird errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15320447/
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> shafox: if you install 15.10 fresh, you can preserve your /home yes
[12:34] <EriC^^> vooze: type df -Th | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:34] <shafox> lotuspsychje: after that I can try to update to 16.04 when it is released ?
[12:34] <EriC^^> vooze: did you mount bind /dev /dev/pts /proc and /sys before chrooting?
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> shafox: see #ubuntu+1 for 16.04
[12:35] <vooze> EriC^^, no, only what you told me.
[12:35] <EriC^^> vooze: i meant to make a chroot
[12:36] <EriC^^> anyways open another terminal and type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[12:37] <graps> brb
[12:38] <shafox> lotuspsychje: ok. Thanks for the info
[12:39] <vooze> EriC^^, bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[12:39] <EriC^^> vooze: for i in /dev ...
[12:40] <vooze> EriC^^, oh lol, now it says done :d
[12:40] <tore_> is it possible to use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to a release that's *not* the latest? e.g. trusty->vivid
[12:41] <vooze> EriC^^, oh, now grub-install seems to work. Rebooting to check
[12:42] <EriC^^> vooze: type dpkg-configure -a
[12:42] <EriC^^> and update-grub
[12:43] <vooze> EriC^^, dpkg-configure does not seem to exist
[12:43] <EriC^^> ah, dpkg --configure -a
[12:44] <vooze> EriC^^, okay, after that and update-grub can I reboot to test?
[12:44] <EriC^^> yeah
[12:45] <EriC^^> exit chroot first though
[12:46] <vooze> EriC^^, crap, too late. should I reboot back live usb?
[12:46] <EriC^^> no it's fine
[12:46] <EriC^^> it just hangs sometimes if you don't exit the chroot
[12:46] <vooze> oh okay :)
[12:47] <vooze> EriC^^, it works! You are the best.
[12:47] <EriC^^> vooze: great!
[12:47] <vooze> For future use, what should i mount as well?
[12:47] <EriC^^> to chroot?
[12:48] <vooze> EriC^^, well yes, since it seems I needed to mount more than just / and efi-boot
[12:50] <EriC^^> vooze: yeah, you need to mount the root fs at /mnt , then type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done to mount bind the virtual filesystems from the live usb to the other install, and if you have other stuff like efi you need to mount those, or you could do sudo chroot /mnt , and then type mount -a to automatically mount them ( manual is preferable though )
[12:51] <vooze> EriC^^, Thank you. Gonna save that. One last thing. I get a crash rapport on boot now. "Sorry, a problem accured while installing software. Package: grub-efi-amd64 2.02.....
[12:52] <EriC^^> vooze: try sudo apt-get -f install
[12:52] <stevenahoy> hello
[12:52] <EriC^^> it should go away i guess, it's just saved from before
[12:53] <graps> stevenahoy: Hi
[12:53] <Deathangel> s.a
[12:53] <stevenahoy> i used ubuntu studio
[12:53] <stevenahoy> can i use GIU ubuntu -desktop
[12:53] <stevenahoy> ?
[12:53] <vooze> EriC^^, does not seem to fix anything.
[12:54] <graps> stevenahoy: What's GIU ?
[12:54] <EriC^^> vooze: try rebooting i think it shouldn't appear next time
[12:55] <stevenahoy> ubuntu desktop
[12:55] <stevenahoy> ubuntu 14.04
[12:55] <stevenahoy> orange color
[12:55] <stevenahoy> because i love orange so i want it
[12:55] <graps> stevenahoy: I suppose you can. I haven't used it yet
[12:55] <EriC^^> stevenahoy: you can install it but i dont know how much it'll blend together
[12:55] <hil> stevenahoy, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:56] <Deathangel> https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/code-vs.aspx
[12:56] <usuario> OOOO
[12:56] <EriC^^> stevenahoy: ubuntu with different de's becomes a headache usually
[12:56] <usuario_> hey bitches
[12:56] <usuario__> holiii
[12:56] <totorystal> sounds great
[12:56] <linuxthefish> hi, i've just live booted ubuntu and there isn't any text in the menu
[12:56] <linuxthefish> like for the wifi menu and gparted menu
[12:56] <usuario_> oh poor you
[12:56] <stevenahoy> oke thanks all
[12:56] <usuario> ALAAA
[12:56] <stevenahoy> i will try
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> usuario  sure you want to be here?
[12:56] <usuario__> you here for gay porn?
[12:56] <stevenahoy> ^_^ have a great day
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> !ops | scaredbyboo
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> usuario  behave or go away
[12:57] <scaredbyboo> noooo
[12:57] <scaredbyboo> nooo
[12:57] <vooze> EriC^^, you were correct. It seems to be gone :) Thank you so much for all your help and patience.
[12:57] <animeaddicted> HEY
[12:57] <animeaddicted> sesi
[12:57] <EriC^^> vooze: no problem
[12:58] <pambisita> heeeey
[12:58] <graps> pambisita: Hi
[13:01] <graps> It's kind of quiet now
[13:01] <graps> brb
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> graps: lets not feed here, just use the channel for ubuntu support please
[13:01] <graps> lotuspsychje: All right
[13:01] <graps> brb
[13:03] <graps> back
[13:04] <flopado> Hey Guys
[13:05] <flopado> Hi
[13:05] <graps> flopado: Hi
[13:06] <flopado> Does somebody speak German?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> !de
[13:06] <flopado> MonkeyDust du?
[13:07] <graps> flopado: Yes, ubottu suggested German speaking channels
[13:07] <flopado> ok
[13:25] <yerm> hy
[13:29] <yerm> halo semua
[13:43] <graps> See you all later !
[13:43] <slenderman> ArcaFacts log
[13:53] <xdavid> Hi
[13:53] <IxmcGOJHV> Hi
[13:54] <NoCode> Why does the minimal ISO pull in all xorg drivers from under sun? All I wanted to do is install Cinnamon from a minimal installation so I'd have the least amount of dependencies. That way I wouldn't have Gnome-3 or MATE installed. Is there an official Cinnamon release for Ub
[13:54] <NoCode> Ubuntu*
[13:54] <xdavid> just download full iso
[13:54] <pFLXLYOVw> Welcome
[13:56] <Pici> NoCode: did you install with suggested and recommended enabled?
[13:56] <xdavid> :)
[13:56] <ALmcpFNwN> )
[13:57] <NoCode> Pici, I'm unsure what that means.
[13:57] <ALmcpFNwN> Pici,
[14:00] <Pici> NoCode: The default when installing using apt-get is with recommended packages included, often that pulls in a lot of extra stuff. I suggest using --no-install-recommends when you don't need that stuff.
[14:00] <Pici> NoCode: You can also set APT::Install-Recommends and APT::Install-Suggests to 0 in your apt.conf
[14:03] <NetworkingPro> Hey everyone, quick (rhetorical I think) question:  If I have all my web files chowned to www-data:www-data and I want my default user to be able to edit the files without sudo, do I just need to add my user to the www-data group?
[14:03] <Pici> NetworkingPro: yep. But be aware that group changes require your user to relogin, which may involve more than just opening a new terminal if you're in a desktop session, you may need to fully log out and log back in.
[14:04] <jushur> NetworkingPro: if the files has g+rw
[14:04] <Pici> that too
[14:04] <NoCode> Pici, For an example, if setting that, I want to install 'program', I install 'program' will that dependency bring in 'program-data'? Or does it just cut off all dependencies when installing a package?
[14:04] <NetworkingPro> jushur: so I could do  chmod g+rw -R web/home  ?
[14:05] <NetworkingPro> and be good from then on?
[14:05] <NetworkingPro> That should allow me to scp right to my web/home directories?
[14:05] <Pici> NoCode: recommends and suggests are more like "soft" dependencies. regular depends will still be pulled in.  the recommends and suggests packages sometimes offer additional features to the program you're installing or may involve a 'nice to have' sort of thing... like pulling in extra documentation.
[14:06] <Pici> NoCode: of course, when this happens recursively for all packages and package dependencies for something you're installing it can end up being a lot of (unneeded) stuff
[14:07] <shredding> Where can i learn about all the stuff displayed in ifconfig?
[14:07] <jushur> shredding: man ifconfig
[14:07] <shredding> e.g. what are the different things displayed there, which ip is mapped to what etc.
[14:07] <NoCode> Pici, Okay, makes sense for sure.
[14:07] <shredding> jushur: not how to use it, but about the concepts used there.
[14:07] <NoCode> Pici, Thanks man. Really appreciate it.
[14:08] <Pici> NoCode: np :)
[14:08] <shredding> e.g. what is ethernet, what is "utun", what does "inet 10.10.7.22 --> 10.10.7.21 netmask 0xffffffff" mean.
[14:08] <shredding> how do i know what is used to access the internet.
[14:08] <JyZyXEL> kernel: [2658090.846615] NFS: state manager: check lease failed on NFSv4 server ha with error 13
[14:08] <shredding> stuff like that.
[14:08] <JyZyXEL> my dmesg is being spammed with this crap
[14:08] <JyZyXEL> how do i stop it?
[14:09] <shafox> I have booted into my system using a live usb, now I cant access to the system disk. How can I do that?
[14:10] <afrokarlsson> male seamease twin borns, when 2 male twins eats in mother stamic 5 females, and female seamese twin borns when 2 females eats 5 males
[14:11] <shafox> When I try to do right click on the hard drive and click on mount it gives me not authorized to do peration.
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> afrokarlsson: stop that please
[14:12] <jushur> shredding: a guick web search gave http://www.aboutlinux.info/2006/11/ifconfig-dissected-and-demystified.html
[14:13] <shredding> jushur: thanks, will read into that, I hoped for an in-depth guide, but guess i will need to read around.
[14:13] <a__a> s
[14:15] <shafox> How can I mount the disk drive while on live-usb?
[14:16] <shafox> This is the output for sudo fdisk -l https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c5850c7f565a2f908c20
[14:19] <streulma> How can I install icedtea-web or icedtea-8-plugin in 15.10 Wily? How about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icedtea-web/+bug/1385842
[14:28] <deeVer_> how do you change directory in the terminal when a folder has multiple words?
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> deeVer_  put a \ before the space
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> deeVer_  like   cd my\ documents
[14:30] <deeVer_> MonkeyDust: YES! thank you so much I couldn't find the answer on google.
[14:32] <jushur> deeVer_: tab tab, is your friend to.
[14:37] <pete> Hi, i dont know if this is the correct place to ask but if not, please just let me know. I need to change my phpmyadmin from localhost to a ddns, is that something you can help me with?
[14:38] <Element9> cross-posting from #ubuntu-mate: how do i troubleshoot not being able to make a wired network connection?
[14:39] <ck_mfc> pete: so you want to make your phpmyadmin accessible from outside your network?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> Element9  start by saying what you tried so far and what goes wrong
[14:41] <Element9> /etc/network/interfaces has just:
[14:41] <Element9> auto lo
[14:41] <Element9> iface lo inet loopback
[14:42] <Element9> i tried changing [ifupdown]managed to true
[14:42] <fooobarrr> did you plug in your network cable?
[14:43] <Element9> yes
[14:43] <fooobarrr> well that's about all I've got
[14:43] <fooobarrr> restart?
[14:43] <deeVer_> Element9: what OS are you running? Have you tried another computer?
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> Element9  what's the output of  cat /etc/issue
[14:44] <Element9> when i plug the cable in "Ethernet connection 1" appears but when i try to connect it just looks like it's trying to connect but thing happens
[14:44] <Element9> deeVer_: ubuntu mate 16.04 beta
[14:44] <fooobarrr> oh
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> Element9  16.04 is not ready yet, support in #ubuntu+1
[14:45] <fooobarrr> "I installed a beta OS and things are broken..."
[14:45] <Element9> deeVer_: other computer is working with the same network
[14:45] <fooobarrr> and same OS?
[14:45] <Element9> not same os
[14:46] <fooobarrr> why not just use 14.04 like normal people?
[14:46] <fooobarrr> unless you're a ubuntu developer
[14:47] <Element9> MonkeyDust: /etc/issue says: Ubuntu Xenial Xerus (develpment branch) \n \l
[14:47] <Element9> fooobarrr: i wasn't able to get 14.04 to work on this laptop in question
[14:48] <jushur> i bet firmware issue
[14:48] <fooobarrr>  could be
[14:48] <fooobarrr> network drivers can be a pita
[14:48] <fooobarrr> thinkpads will always work though
[14:48] <Element9> live boot worked fine, but after install it complaed that graphics in "low" mode (something like that) and didn't let me into X. dropping into console didn't work either because i got a loging loop
[14:49] <Element9> jushur: i have dual boot and network works from windows
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> Element9  type /j #ubuntu+1, ask there
[14:50] <Element9> MonkeyDust: will do. but in case this is not due to me using beta version, i'd still like to get any suggestion anyone has
[14:50] <fooobarrr> ok graphics don't matter
[14:50] <jushur> Element9: windows in quick boot asks hardware firmware to do things. so turn off quick boot in windows.
[14:50] <sancho_panza> hi, does anybody know how to use an usb soundcard as the main one?
[14:50] <fooobarrr> you could run in terminal and network would be fin
[14:51] <jushur> sancho_panza: /etc/asound.conf
[14:51] <Element9> fooobarrr: graphics thing was when i tried to install 14.04. i was explaining the reason why i wasn't using 14.04
[14:51] <Element9> jushur: let me see if i have that turned on
[14:52] <jushur> Element9: its on by default.
[14:52] <Element9> jushur: is a bios setting?
[14:52] <Element9> if not, how can it make difference in ubuntu?
[14:53] <jushur> Element9: no, i said windows. is on the power page in controlpanel.
[14:54] <jushur> Element9: because windows is asking firmware to not let go of hsrdware resources.
[14:54] <Element9> jushur: got it. on it :)
[14:57] <Element9> jushur: does that option exist in win 7?
[14:58] <jushur> what is that? some ancient thing? /no /s
[14:58] <Element9> what is what? :)
[14:58] <jushur> it does not.
[14:58] <Element9> th
[14:58] <Element9> thx
[14:59] <Element9> i'm back at square one. any suggestions appreciated
[14:59] <fooobarrr> did network work with 14.04
[14:59] <jushur> lspcie -vnn , and pastebin the lines with the networkcard
[15:00] <jushur> !pastebin | Element9
[15:01] <jushur> lspci
[15:01] <Nyterax> guys, whenever I reboot Ubuntu it gets stuck in purple screen after grub selection. If I wait for some hours and then turn on the computer, it boots just fine. What the hell?
[15:01] <Element9> fooobarrr: i didn't try network in 14.04. so much was wrong with it that i nuked it. i wouldn't even know how to try it from console
[15:01] <Element9> jushur: on it. let me reboot back from windows
[15:01] <Nyterax> I dual boot with Windows 10, btw
[15:02] <fooobarrr> grub-rescue?
[15:05] <lapyo> is your pc on a cold place or something like that?
[15:05] <Nyterax> it does get pretty hot. could that be the reason?
[15:06] <lapyo> possibly yeah
[15:06] <Nyterax> windows boots fine tho
[15:07] <Nyterax> and ubuntu's like hell naw, not getting in there?
[15:08] <Element9> jushur: http://pastebin.com/VBwyyPCF
[15:08] <lapyo> I dunno, I have had similar problems with crappy hardware and/or cold/heat
[15:08] <fooobarrr> seems fine Element9
[15:08] <fooobarrr> can you liveboot 14.04?
[15:09] <hil> Nyterax, have you tried pressing ESC or Ctrl-Alt-F1 at the purple screen?
[15:11] <Element9> fooobarrr: i'll try that
[15:12] <princessliz94> hey there all, trying to find some quick help, and having trouble logging in to the forum. i don't have much time and i think i have some information that will help someone to help me. any and all help is appreciated.
[15:12] <Nyterax> esc did nothing IIRC
[15:13] <Nyterax> and I could boot livecd from usb
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> princessliz94  you lost a lot of time by typing all that, better ask your question
[15:13] <hil> Nyterax, Ctrl-Alt_F1 should show you the boot log
[15:13] <Element9> fooobarrr: i mean, i live booted when i tried installing it. live booted 14.04 and it worked great. i didn't try the wired network from live boot though
[15:13] <Element9> i'll try it now
[15:14] <Nyterax> ok hil I'll do that next time
[15:15] <fooobarrr> if you can live boot and it works fine install it
[15:15] <princessliz94> i'm new to ubuntu and i'm having touble getting my netgear AC600 wifi adapter to work now with 14.04 32-bit. i've already tried following this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2240631 to no avail. anyone who can help me would be highly appreciated
[15:17] <Element9> fooobarrr: i tried. i got the graphics problem and console login loop problem
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | princessliz94 start here
[15:19] <princessliz94> 500 internal server error
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> princessliz94  and repeat your question every 15 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help
[15:19] <princessliz94> thanks monkey dust
[15:20] <rschwieb> Has http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/ been permanently rewritten without its HTML tables? We used to automate that process to look up the newest AMI, but now the table doesn't appear anymore...
[15:20] <princessliz94> alrighty refreshing brought up the new page, thanks ubottu
[15:20] <rexwin_> where is the inittab file in ubuntu to chang the default run level to 3 and disabling gui?
[15:21] <guest-2t4oIp> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:21] <guest-2t4oIp> holaaaa
[15:21] <Pici> rexwin_: Ubuntu uses upstart/systemd, so there is no inittab, also...
[15:21] <Pici> !runlevel | rexwin_
[15:21] <guest-2t4oIp> sjdnlgbwheutgpq
[15:21] <Pici> !es | guest-2t4oIp
[15:21] <skyhacked> hola
[15:21] <guest-2t4oIp> hola
[15:21] <rexwin_> so how to change runlevel to 3?
[15:21] <guest-2t4oIp> puta
[15:21] <skyhacked> guapa
[15:22] <guest-2t4oIp> i am
[15:22] <guest-2t4oIp> beach
[15:22] <guest-2t4oIp> playa
[15:22] <skyhacked> me gustab los trenes
[15:22] <princessliz94> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05ca:1870 Ricoh Co., Ltd Webcam 1000 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0846:9052 NetGear, Inc.  Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c52f Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub is there anything here that doesn't look like it should for a wifi adapter?
[15:23] <princessliz94> fuck. that looks bad. gonna use google drive from now on
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> princessliz94  use a pastebin and mind your language
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:23] <princessliz94> sorry
[15:24] <princessliz94> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15321329/
[15:25] <BluesKaj> princessliz94, check additional drivers for the recommended rtl8812AU driver
[15:25] <rexwin_> when running runlevel it says 2. so GUI displayed in runlevel 2 in ubuntu?
[15:25] <rexwin_> is it not run level 5 that has GUI by default?
[15:26] <ikonia> run levels don't exist any more
[15:26] <ikonia> (not in the legacy way)
[15:26] <princessliz94> ok lets pretend i'm a pure idiot and need my hand held, how exactly would i do that?
[15:26] <princessliz94> i'm sorry for my inexperience
[15:27] <snowgoogles> rexwin_:  what is the reason you need to change your runlevel?
[15:28] <rexwin_> I donot want the gui since it is a cloud machine
[15:28] <fooobarrr> then uninstall unity
[15:28] <rexwin_> I want just like runlevel 3 with out GUI but with networking
[15:28] <rexwin_> like the old days
[15:29] <ikonia> so disable the X11 service
[15:29] <fooobarrr> or install centos
[15:29] <ikonia> install centos ?? what has that got to do with being a solution ?
[15:29] <fooobarrr> so he can get "runlevel 3 like the old days"
[15:29] <ikonia> just disable the X11 service (Desktop Login service)
[15:30] <ikonia> the systemd unit file for the desktop window manager
[15:30] <ikonia> either stop it, or disable it
[15:30] <rexwin_> so runlevel 2,3,4,5 have GUI in ubuntu?
[15:30] <ikonia> if it's a full time change remove the desktop components
[15:30] <ikonia> there are no run levels like that any more
[15:30] <ikonia> the legacy run level model is dead in systemd
[15:30] <fooobarrr> I feel like just disabling X11 will break things
[15:30] <ikonia> why do you feel that ?
[15:30] <fooobarrr> I do
[15:30] <ikonia> why ?
[15:30] <ikonia> what will break ?
[15:31] <rexwin_> how to disable X11?
[15:31] <fooobarrr> they don't think it be like it is but it do
[15:31] <craptalk> rexwin_: did you google it?
[15:31] <rexwin_> nope
[15:31] <ikonia> stop the systemd unit for the X11 login manager,
[15:31] <ikonia> that should be enough to stop it
[15:31] <snowgoogles> rexwin_:  why didn't you just install ubuntu-core (no desktop environment, no wasted disk space)
[15:31] <ikonia> (I don't know the name of the service off hand - but if you list it it should be obvious)
[15:32] <ikonia> because the desktop install installs a desktop
[15:32] <craptalk> rexwin_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65856/how-does-one-exit-the-x-server
[15:32] <fooobarrr> gdm is the destkop manger right?
[15:32] <ikonia> I don't think ubuntu uses gdm with unity does it ?
[15:32] <fooobarrr> I forget
[15:32] <ikonia> list the systemd units
[15:32] <genii> lightdm should be the default now
[15:32] <fooobarrr> the service stop lightdm
[15:32] <ikonia> lightdm thats it
[15:32] <ikonia> thanks genii
[15:32] <ikonia> no
[15:32] <ikonia> that is not how you use systemd
[15:33] <ikonia> (I did read right that this is a 15.X release - not 14.04 ?)
[15:33] <fooobarrr> did rexwin_ say?
[15:33] <ikonia> I thought I read a 15 branch
[15:34] <fooobarrr> idk - systemd is used in >= 15.X ? I haven't used anything newer than 14.xx
[15:34] <ikonia> it is
[15:34]  * fooobarrr should read about new things
[15:36] <rexwin_> fooobarrr, anything you want to say?
[15:36]  * fooobarrr is reading
[15:37] <princessliz94> does anyone think this may help me? http://blog.danielscrivano.com/installing-rtl8812au-on-linux-for-wireless-dual-band-usb-adapters/
[15:39] <princessliz94> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15321435/
[15:40] <rschwieb> Has http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/ been permanently rewritten without its HTML tables? We used to automate that process to look up the newest AMI, but now the table doesn't appear anymore...
[15:40] <popey> rschwieb: hehe, that's one way to do it :)
[15:41] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: it looks to be the same chipset as yours...so yeah go for it
[15:41] <princessliz94> ugh it didn't work. i don't know what i'm doing wrong.
[15:41] <rschwieb> @popey I'm open to different ways to perform the lookup
[15:42] <rschwieb> popey: open to other ways of performing the lookup  (sorry, I forget all my IRC stuff)
[15:43] <popey> rschwieb: via https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ maybe?
[15:43] <popey> rschwieb: can't guarantee that page won't change though. I don't know of a better way, unless Amazon themselves have an API for this (surely they do?)
[15:43] <rschwieb> popey: how would you perform a lookup on a javascript generated list?
[15:44] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: run lsmod | grep 8812au
[15:44] <jcastro> rschwieb: heya, you had a question about cloud-images?
[15:44] <popey> jcastro: rschwieb is asking the best way to look up images
[15:44] <rschwieb> jcastro: hi
[15:45] <rschwieb> jcastro: yes, automating the lookup for the most recent image of our specified type
[15:45] <jcastro> yep, one sec
[15:45] <rschwieb> jcastro: it looks like the webpage we used was changed to break our old method
[15:46] <princessliz94> snowgoggles: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15321482/
[15:46] <rschwieb> jcastro: the published json list would also be great, but so far it looks like the release lists only list images older than a week.
[15:46] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15321482/
[15:46] <jcastro> rschwieb: you mean the simplestreams data? that's what I was looking up
[15:46] <jcastro> rschwieb: ok so you need like a daily?
[15:46] <censorship101> i accidentally deleted /bin on an important machine i don't want to re-install is there a tool i can use to try and recover what was rm'd?
[15:47] <somsip> !undelete | censorship101
[15:47] <rschwieb> jcastro: I 'm not sure about simplestreams, but I was looking into this http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/streams/v1/com.ubuntu.cloud:released:aws.json
[15:47] <ws2k3> im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but at downloading installer component i just get a purple screen and then nothing happens what could this be
[15:47] <rschwieb> jcastro: yes, the goal is a daily image lookup that is automatable
[15:48] <jcastro> rschwieb: this should sort you: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/which-ami-in-aws-does-correspond-to-ubuntu-14-04-2/2195/2?u=jorge_castro
[15:48] <genii> censorship101: Instead of bothering with undeleting things, you'd be better off to boot from an external linux like a livecd, chroot to that affected one, and do a reinstall of al the packages on that system
[15:49] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: i'm so sorry, i'm just really confused. this kind of thing is difficult for me. i'm not used to being the one who needs help
[15:49] <censorship101> genii, how do you reinstall all packages on the system?
[15:49] <censorship101> genii and i'll do that
[15:50] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: that's ok...but reviewed your process...you missed a step
[15:50] <jcastro> rschwieb: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/daily/streams/v1/com.ubuntu.cloud:daily:aws.json
[15:50] <jcastro> is what I gathered after reading that
[15:50] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: see, i don't see that cause i'm not used to this. can you tell me what i missed?
[15:51] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: try entering without quotes "git clone https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux.git"
[15:52] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: it didn't do anything that i can tell?
[15:53] <genii> censorship101: Basic method is shown here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101931/restoring-all-data-and-dependencies-from-dpkg-set-selections
[15:53] <timmyBsd> Heyho, could anybody tell my why there the ubuntu kernels doesn't receive any security update? related to the debian update ... https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3503
[15:54] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: should i open a new terminal session to help make this look like less of a mess?
[15:54] <jcastro> rschwieb: did that work for you?
[15:56] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: let me check the git rep out myself
[15:56] <Ogabek> hi
[15:57] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: ok. thank you so much for the help.
[15:58] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: ok...open a new terminal does it display "~$" at the end of your prompt?
[15:58] <Pici> timmyBsd: If you look up the CVEs listed there in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/, it appears that most of them are still in the pending status, which means that they are undergoing testing... also, many of them don't apply to the architectures that we provide.
[15:58] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: now it does
[15:59] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: should i try now?
[15:59] <ws2k3> im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but at downloading installer component i just get a purple screen and then nothing happens what could this be
[15:59] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: enter this line https://paste.ubuntu.com/15321570/
[16:00] <EliProw> hi hi
[16:01] <EliProw> i have a question!!
[16:01] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: it did this http://paste.ubuntu.com/15321579/
[16:01] <ws2k3> anyone?
[16:01] <EliProw> what if i fork bombed a ubuntu server
[16:01] <EliProw> would it crash?
[16:01] <rschwieb> jcastro: Hi, sorry, was called away from workstation. That looks very promising. I'll look into it now
[16:01] <EliProw> or does it have protection?
[16:02] <EliProw> anyone?
[16:02] <snowgoogles> perfect...now paste this into the same terminal window next https://paste.ubuntu.com/15321582/
[16:02] <EliProw> hello?
[16:03] <EliProw> plz
[16:03] <EliProw> OK i will test
[16:03] <EliProw> wait
[16:04] <ws2k3> im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but at downloading installer component i just get a purple screen and then nothing happens what could this be
[16:06] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: any luck?
[16:06] <ws2k3> i also tryed other mirrors but they have the same issues
[16:06] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: you there? everything froze, i think it was unrelated.
[16:07] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: did you run this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/15321582/
[16:07] <zykotick9> ws2k3: why 12.04?  four year old software is what you're looking for?
[16:07] <ws2k3> zykotick9 yes
[16:07] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: not yet. should i try now?
[16:08] <ws2k3> zykotick9 but is that relevant? 12.04 is support for another year. and i realy need to finish this install
[16:08] <zykotick9> ws2k3: good luck...
[16:08] <ws2k3> zykotick9 i tryed 2 different ip ranges. and 3 different mirrors still its failing
[16:08] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: make sure your at prompt ending with "~$" before you do
[16:08] <ws2k3> zykotick9 is it maby possible that there is something wrong with the ubuntu repo?
[16:09] <zykotick9> ws2k3: sorry, i don't have any suggestions at all...  thus the "good luck"
[16:09] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: ok. i am and i just did. it's doing things. should i pastebin the results when it's done?
[16:09] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: the wifi should load up
[16:10] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: your wifi adpater isn't in the mainstream thus why we have to compile a driver for it
[16:10] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: it did this https://paste.ubuntu.com/15321647/
[16:11] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: i think it finished now it looks like this https://paste.ubuntu.com/15321656/
[16:13] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: Oh my god i think it worked!!!!
[16:13] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: is wifi detected now?
[16:14] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: yes! but how do i make sure i don't have to do this on startup every time?
[16:14] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: reboot and test
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> princessliz94  great! now paste all the steps in one document and publish it online, for future reference
[16:14] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: alright. i'll be back to let you know how it went
[16:16] <Mac__> hi
[16:18] <princessliz94_> snowgoogles: i have restarted and am now using wifi!! :D thank you!! would you mind helping me list the steps we went through?
[16:23] <rschwieb> jcastro: I was able to successfully automate recovery from that json... it's probably even faster than the old script! Thanks for getting me to the resource
[16:26] <jcastro> rschwieb: for sure you want to use the json files, those are officially supported and quite more robust than parsing tables. :D
[16:27] <rschwieb> jcastro: i wholeheartedly agree. Wish we had found the json a year ago when we first wrote it.
[16:29] <dany_> hi i have installed ubuntu 15.10 and i cant turn wireless
[16:31] <dany_> my wireless is off and i cant turn it on. can anyone help
[16:34] <deeVer_> dany_: are you able to connect to the wireless network with another device?
[16:34] <dany_> deeVer_ yes my phone
[16:35] <vvein> hi! a quick question about packages
[16:35] <vvein> I try to rebuild the firefox package with changed flags
[16:35] <deeVer_> dany_: ubuntu 15.10 is new. I'm looking at some forums right now.
[16:36] <princessliz94> snowgoogles: thanks for all the help, my computer froze again. i think it has something to do with the graphics card. sorry for dropping out so much.
[16:36] <vvein> I tried export CFLAGS, append CFLAGS ... in /etc/dpkg/buildconf, nothing seems to be changing the flags used during the compilation
[16:36] <dany_> deeVer_  i had same problem with 14.04
[16:36] <deeVer_> dany_: did you update your computer after downloading Ubuntu?
[16:37] <vvein> I'm using ubuntu 14.04
[16:37] <deeVer_> dany_: you want to make sure your computer is fully up-to-date.
[16:37] <dany_> no
[16:37] <snowgoogles> princessliz94: how long has your computer been running ubuntu...just recently?
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> vvein  start from the beginning, what are you trying to do or achieve
[16:38] <deeVer_> dany_: in the terminal type in sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[16:38] <dany_> deeVer_  ok let me try
[16:38] <deeVer_> dany_: that will fully upgrade your computer. I'd say do that first.
[16:38] <vvein>  MonkeyDust: I want to recompile firefox with -march=native
[16:39] <vvein> maybe -O3, not sure if it's better than -Os. Disabling -g is another thing I'd like to do, but for adding flags is hard enough for now ;)
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> vvein  are you a developer? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[16:40] <vvein> MonkeyDust: I'm not an Ubuntu developer. I'd like to take a few steps in that direction though
[16:40] <dany_> deeVer_  nothing
[16:40] <deeVer_> dany_: sorry, the correct syntax is sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get update
[16:40] <Norbin> what google-drive solution are you guys using on ubuntu if any?
[16:41] <vvein> MonkeyDust: I'll try that channel
[16:41] <zykotick9> deeVer_: ahh, your commands are backwards.  update first then upgrade/dist-upgrade.
[16:41] <Mikelevel> vvein~ do you use apt-build ?
[16:41] <deeVer_> dany_: use this as a guide https: help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-troubleshooting.html
[16:42] <deeVer_> zykotick9: that's the correct syntax update then upgrade?
[16:43] <zykotick9> deeVer_: yes...  personally i'd switch to using apt instead of apt-get but that's up to you.  "sudo apt-get update" will refresh the repos, followed by "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" if you want to update everything.
[16:44] <zykotick9> deeVer_: with apt it would be "sudo apt update" then "sudo apt upgrade" (dist-upgrade isn't really required with apt)
[16:44] <vvein> Mikelevel: I use dpkg-buildpackage -b -us -uc
[16:44] <deeVer_> zykotick9: Why do you like using only sudo apt update versus sudo apt-get update?
[16:45] <zykotick9> deeVer_: apt is the new (ie. still getting developed) tool... it's got a few advantages over the old apt-get (like fancy colours and progress bar for one)
[16:47] <zykotick9> deeVer_: on ubuntu it's particularly good, 'cause "apt upgrade" will also upgrade kernels, which a "apt-get upgrade" would not... you'd need to use dist-upgrade (which is a very misunderstood command)
[16:50] <vvein> Mikelevel: apt-build looks awesome
[16:53] <TweedleDum> Hey
[16:53] <TweedleDum> i'm on xubuntu 15.04 , well I have that as a LiveOS on my other laptop and I want to set up a streaming webcam which the local police department can access via my IP and a port number with a password
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> TweedleDum  15.04 is dead .. or is that a typo?
[16:54] <TweedleDum> what kind of either all in one software would i have to use for that? or do i need to look into how to run streaming audio/video servers...https? ftp?
[16:54] <TweedleDum> no actually, and I thought 15.04 was just behind 15.11
[16:54] <TweedleDum> heck a lot are still using 14.04
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> TweedleDum  i use 14.04
[16:54] <dany_> i think my wifi is disabled by hardware switch
[16:54] <TweedleDum> Oh, so why is 15.04 dead?
[16:54] <b0s3d> can anyone tell me more on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1474182
[16:54] <TweedleDum> check rfkill dany_
[16:54] <k1l_> TweedleDum: its year.month for ubuntu releases. but 14.,04 got 5 years support
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> TweedleDum  irt's called !eol
[16:54] <k1l_> !releases | TweedleDum
[16:55] <TweedleDum> Oh right so 14.04 is atually the stable release?
[16:55] <TweedleDum> i'm not good with OS release terminology
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> TweedleDum  it's the LTS
[16:55] <TweedleDum> What's that mean? long term support?
[16:55] <k1l_> TweedleDum: everything is stable. but 14.04 is the LTS, long term support. on the other you need to upgrade every 6months
[16:55] <TweedleDum> hmmm
[16:55] <k1l_> TweedleDum: look at the links the bot gave you
[16:56] <dany_> rfkill?
[16:56] <TweedleDum> so is 15.04 more or less just for those who want the newer kernel version?
[16:56] <TweedleDum> yeah in terminal do sudo rfkill -h
[16:56] <k1l_> TweedleDum: 15.04 is dead right now
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> TweedleDum  it's dead, as in: not breathing
[16:56] <TweedleDum> rfkill is the command used to toggle the hardware killing of all wireless
[16:56] <TweedleDum> ok
[16:56] <TweedleDum> i'm schizophrenic so i take that literally
[16:57] <TweedleDum> type rfkill list (using su or sudo)
[16:57] <dany_> nothing
[16:57] <TweedleDum> see like for me the first one is 1: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no
[16:57] <TweedleDum> did you use sudo or su?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> TweedleDum  16.04 will be released next month
[16:57] <bogart666> !releases
[16:57] <TweedleDum> Cool MD
[16:58] <TweedleDum> Is it some kind of placebo effect or do OS X and Windows (say since XP or Vista etc) look better just in general than almost any Linux distro?
[16:58] <humbot> more shiny?
[16:58] <TweedleDum> I'm not trolling with that question. I'm wondering if somehow Windows has some advantages with AA on fonts or something, or just better fonts by default.
[16:58] <humbot> bigger drop shadows?
[16:58] <dany_> mine returns help
[16:58] <baizon> TweedleDum: well thats is you subjective opinion
[16:59] <TweedleDum> Oh don't know drop shadows, ill look
[16:59] <humbot> that's what i always notice about osx anyway
[16:59] <TweedleDum> ah yeah like for the windows themselves. yeah that's def in os x as i recall
[16:59] <dany_> usage and commands nothing
[16:59] <TweedleDum> and yes it's my opinion but i prefer linux for everything except what it just can't do
[17:00] <TweedleDum> adn that's audio/video (particularly music) recording, production, basically digital audio workstation stuff and things like guitar rig
[17:00] <dany_> im helpless
[17:00] <vvein> Mikelevel: I cannot see any of the flags, that I set in the files or in apt-build configuration, during firefox compilation
[17:00] <TweedleDum> with your wifi?
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> TweedleDum  we get it ... now confine yourself to ubuntu support questions
[17:00] <vvein> Mikelevel: I use apt-build this time
[17:00] <dany_> yes
[17:00] <nacc> TweedleDum: this is a support channel, please take opinions to #offtopic
[17:00] <TweedleDum> sorry, i have a bit of tangential thought :( ok
[17:01] <TweedleDum> So, anyone know about me streaming a webcam with my external IP:portnumber being able to access it?
[17:01] <rb_> i
[17:01] <TweedleDum> Keep in mind the laptop in question only has like 800mb of free space (live OS with dead HDD)
[17:01] <ioria> !info motion
[17:02] <TweedleDum> hm that's cool
[17:02] <brunch> hey
[17:02] <dany_> i think its the drivers im lacking
[17:02] <TweedleDum> so i could just like record each day's motion sensitive movements ont he street and then send them to the PD
[17:02] <dany_> wireless drivers
[17:02] <TweedleDum> brb family is here
[17:03] <rb_> What are you talking about <TweedleDum>
[17:05] <dany_> im sorry i cant get wireless on my ubuntu 14.04 and also 15.10 what might be the problem?
[17:08] <snowgoogles> dany_: was it working before?
[17:08] <Anthony-L> question, when using 'sudo apt install' how do i know which programs are in the que already?
[17:08] <Anthony-L> what i mean is, does the CLI automatically search the internet to find what file i want to download?
[17:08] <Anthony-L> how does it work?
[17:08] <zykotick9> Anthony-L: que... what que...  fyi it's "sudo apt install PACKAGENAME"
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  it looks in the repos
[17:09] <jonascj> Hi all. I am playing around with btrfs and I am trying to find out if you can install ubuntu to a predefined btrfs (i.e. no formatting in "Something else" under partitioning) and use predefined subvolumes as specific mount points?
[17:09] <vvein> can someone help me with recompiling a package from source?
[17:09] <Anthony-L> yea, but is everything in the repos?
[17:09] <vvein> I have a problem with adding flags to the compilation
[17:09] <dany_> nop only on windows
[17:09] <vvein> I tried a few things and nothing seems to work
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> !repo | Anthony-L
[17:10] <dany_> snowgoogles only on windows os
[17:10] <jonascj> Out of the box ubuntu's live disk installer install to a btrfs filesystem but seem to require that ubuntu formats it, and create to subvolumes (@ for / and @home for /home). This is what I would liketo define more specifically
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  you can also install something from outside the repos, but that's at your own risk and not supported here
[17:11] <snowgoogles> dany_: is it builtin wireless or usb?
[17:11] <vvein> MonkeyDust: do you know who supports the build system?
[17:11] <dany_> snowgoogles built in
[17:12] <b0s3d> does anyone have more information on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1474182
[17:12] <snowgoogles> dany_: provide the output as a pastebin of the following command in a terminal window : lspci
[17:12] <Pici> vvein: I'd look at the files in debian/rules... but I haven't rebuilt anything in a while
[17:13] <vvein> Pici: I tried changing debian/rules, no results ;/
[17:13] <zykotick9> vvein: just curious... but what "flag" is it that your trying to add to firefox?
[17:13] <Anthony-L> how do you guys know what's already available in the repositories? just word of mouth?
[17:13] <vvein> zykotick9: -march=native
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  apt-cache search , or use the software center
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  and sometimes we give tips to each other, or we learn it here, in the channel
[17:14] <vvein> zykotick9: I'd like to try a few optimization, but that one is the first on the list, I need a proof of concept :)
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  or we find something useful by accident
[17:14] <dany_> snowgoogles http://pastebin.com/ed47KprG
[17:15] <Anthony-L> when i 'apt-search' nothing comes up. does that mean it's not on the repository?
[17:16] <zykotick9> Anthony-L: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is another way to check
[17:16] <markwillis> Anthony-L: have you done something like apt-get update (do not remember exactly)
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  try   apt-cache search gftp   <-- example
[17:17] <Anthony-L> i haven't done anything. i'm new and trying to learn CLI
[17:18] <markwillis> Anthony-L: try apt-cache update
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[17:18] <zykotick9> markwillis: ? i get "invalid operation" when i try that...
[17:18] <markwillis> OK, so it is not this command or not necessary
[17:18] <Anthony-L> markwillis, invalid
[17:19] <zykotick9> Anthony-L: what is it that you are trying to search for exactly?
[17:19] <markwillis> what happened to ubuntu-offtopic?
[17:20] <Anthony-L> nothing particular
[17:20] <snowgoogles> dany_: your wifi adapter is detected as Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[17:20] <Anthony-L> i'm just a new linux user. i just wanted to search in general.
[17:20] <dany_> snowgoogles ??
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  i guess you're better off in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:20] <BluesKaj> markwillis, it's still available
[17:20] <dany_> snowgoogles yes
[17:20] <markwillis> BluesKaj: is it necessary to be registered to get there?
[17:21] <Anthony-L> monkeyDust, you've helped me already with the websites.
[17:21] <Anthony-L> thank you
[17:21] <BluesKaj> markwillis, don't think so
[17:21] <dany_> snowgoogles solution??
[17:21] <snowgoogles> dany_: i would do a search for ubuntu and that adapter specifically and see what others are discovering to get it working
[17:21] <markwillis> BluesKaj: I try to get there and I'm being redirected to ubuntu-unreg
[17:21] <markwillis> ubuntu-unregged
[17:22] <Anthony-L> another question, navigating my system with the GUI, where do i start?
[17:22] <Anthony-L> with windows i had the "My Computer" icon.
[17:22] <BluesKaj> well then , looks like you have to register, markwillis
[17:22] <markwillis> Anthony-L: what GUI do you use?
[17:22] <Anthony-L> i'm assuming the default, Unity?
[17:23] <ioria> dany_ what laptop is that ? Asus ?
[17:23] <dany_> hp
[17:23] <dany_> hp g6
[17:24] <jonascj> Alright, something simpler, is Ubuntu 16 beta/daily available with the alternate installer?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> jonascj, nope
[17:24] <Romme> is this the appropriate place to ask about iptables configuration?
[17:25] <jeeves_moss> how do I specify what GPIO pin is used in LinuxPPS?
[17:25] <jonascj> BluesKaj: Just found this, maybe it is completely gone with 14.04: http://askubuntu.com/questions/457513/what-happened-to-with-the-alternate-installer-in-ubuntu-14-04
[17:25] <jonascj> Is that true, is the alternate installer done for?
[17:25] <BluesKaj> jonascj, yes, there is a minimal tho
[17:26] <BluesKaj> dunno about 16.04 having any minimal
[17:26] <Romme> i'm an absolute retard and can't figure out how to unblock bittorrent on my server
[17:27] <Romme> i've been given a server pre-configured with fail2ban so i need to open up ports every time i install something moderately complicated
[17:27] <Romme> right now i have this in /etc/iptables.rules:
[17:27] <dany_> i dont have any options but to use wired connection
[17:27] <Romme> -A INPUT -p tcp -m multiport --dports 6881:6999 -j ACCEPT
[17:27] <Romme> is this enough?
[17:27] <ioria> dany_  sudo lshw -C Network
[17:27] <jonascj> Can ubuntu be installed manually with chroot, copying, mkcpio etc.? If there is no installer with more options than the normal one there is no hope of more advanced btrfsf subvol options using the installers.
[17:28] <galecle> !list
[17:28] <zykotick9> jonascj: <sidenote> you should be asking beta questions in #ubuntu+1 channel
[17:29] <jonascj> who was galecle list-ing?
[17:29] <dany_> http://pastebin.com/g8ERJ65A
[17:29] <jonascj> zykotick9: good point, but the question is just as fine for 14.04 :)
[17:29] <dany_> ioria http://pastebin.com/g8ERJ65A
[17:29] <ioria> dany_  yeah, DISABLED
[17:30] <zykotick9> jonascj: well, mini is like debian's netinst... you _should_ be able to get any option from it...
[17:30] <markwillis> how do I register a nickserv? Tried to ask it on freenode, but nobody responds and "/msg nickserv" doesn't work
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> !register | markwillis
[17:31] <dany_> ioria how do i enable
[17:31] <markwillis> lotuspsychje: thank you
[17:31] <jonascj> markwillis: http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> markwillis  Type « /msg nickserv register password_of_your_choice your@email.address ». You should pick a decent password, and use a real, valid email address that you have access to.
[17:31] <dany_> ioria_ i have tried pressing the wireless button but its not going on
[17:31] <ioria> dany_   found a fix for Asus, idk if working on your laptop...   ls  /etc/modprobe.d/    ?
[17:31] <jonascj> zykotick9: do you know how to launch that installer instead of the new gui one?
[17:32] <markwillis> btw, do you know why issuing "/command" IRC commands doesn't work in quassel (by not working meaning that the results are either not returned or not seen, I don't know)
[17:32] <zykotick9> jonascj: i do not sorry.
[17:32] <zykotick9> jonascj: ahhh, mini is a separate iso...
[17:33] <dany_> ioria_  http://pastebin.com/pPh9rRh1
[17:34] <jonascj> zykotick9: I saw some minimal images yes, but those are probably also minimal in other ways than the installer...
[17:34] <zykotick9> jonascj: it is.  it downloads the packages from internet.
[17:34] <ioria> dany_     cat  /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf       did you create this file or was already there ?
[17:35] <jonascj> zykotick9: yup, just read that. That is all fine, now I just need the minimal ubuntu 16 beta/daily image, which I fear do not exist. But I'll research that elsewhere
[17:35] <dany_> i think i created it when i was trying many solutions from the web
[17:35] <ioria> dany_     cat  /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf
[17:36] <dany_> yes i did
[17:36] <ioria> dany_     can you paste it  ?
[17:36] <dany_> options ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[17:36] <dany_> only that line
[17:37] <cloclo> Ciao
[17:37] <cloclo> !list
[17:40] <dany_> ioria_
[17:41] <ioria> dany_   are you using  network-manager  ?
[17:43] <dany_> no
[17:44] <ioria> dany_  did you edit   /etc/network/interfaces  then ?
[17:44] <dany_> no
[17:44] <ioria> dany_  sudo service network-manager status
[17:46] <dany_> http://pastebin.com/VydjYkVz
[17:47] <ioria> dany_  sudo service network-manager stop    and   sudo ifconfig wlan0 up   and   sudo dhclient
[17:48] <dany_> ioria?
[17:48] <dany_> i cant see the network now
[17:48] <Mengele> Hmm
[17:48] <dany_> ioria_ it has dissapeared
[17:49] <dany_> icon
[17:49] <Guest68656> hi i have disk problem - http://wklejto.pl/249275
[17:49] <ioria> dany_     sudo ifconfig wlan0 down   and sudo service network-manager start
[17:49] <Guest68656> anyone know what i can do ?
[17:49] <Guest68656> http://wklejto.pl/249273
[17:50] <dany_> error
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> Guest68656  describe your issue, that's easier to read and repeat
[17:50] <Guest68656> disk cant by  mounted
[17:50] <ioria> dany_     where ? after the 1° or the 2° command ?
[17:51] <Guest68656> ext2fs_open2: Bad magic number in super-block
[17:51] <Guest68656> this is boot partition
[17:51] <Guest68656> ssd disk
[17:51] <dany_> http://pastebin.com/kYbdAeY4
[17:51] <dany_> 2
[17:52] <ioria> dany_     ip a
[17:52] <Guest68656> MonkeyDust: You need more info ?
[17:53] <dany_> http://pastebin.com/Zu5Pdc8p
[17:54] <ioria> dany_     are you with the cable right now ?
[17:54] <dany_> yes
[17:54] <ioria> dany_     it's not wlan0 is wlo1
[17:54] <Guest68656> how i can get size of superbloc ?
[17:55] <dany_> ok
[17:55] <dany_> then?
[17:56] <dany_> the network icon is still missing
[17:57] <ioria> dany_     you should try to up wlo1   without network-manager to check if the issue is NM, but you'll get disconnected ...  sudo service network-manager stop    and   sudo ifconfig wlo1 up   and   sudo dhclient
[17:58] <cspack> Guest68656: /dev/sda5 is a swap partition. what are you trying to do?
[17:58] <ioria> dany_     or try wicd
[17:58] <ioria> !info wicd
[17:59] <Guest68656> ok i sse  this no
[17:59] <Guest68656> w
[17:59] <Guest68656> ok thanks
[17:59] <dany_> hey ioria_ i cant see my wireless icon anymore
[18:00] <dany_> ioria_ before you leave please help me return it
[18:00] <ioria> dany_     you are on another pc or on the hp ?
[18:00] <dany_> on hte hp
[18:01] <dany_> ioria_ hp
[18:01] <dany_> ioria_ how do i return the icon
[18:01] <dany_> for wireless
[18:01] <ioria> dany_     sudo service network-manager restart or reboot
[18:02] <dany_> its back
[18:03] <dany_> now ethernet is lost
[18:03] <ioria> dany_     ok, maybe the issue is NM,  but to know that for sure you have to stop it and up the wifi interfaces manually
[18:03] <dany_> im using tethering
[18:04] <NX9010> hey all, is there an easy way to install mint on my laptop while im on xubuntu? :)
[18:04] <NX9010> or should I burn a new image? usb booting does not seem to work on my hp nx9010
[18:04] <baizon> NX9010: #linuxmint
[18:04] <dany_> iora how do i return things back to they way they were previously
[18:05] <ioria> dany_    ifconfig
[18:05] <dany_> my cable is also not working
[18:05] <NX9010> okay, thanks baizon, will ask there.
[18:05] <dany_> http://pastebin.com/9stL35BA
[18:06] <ioria> dany_    ethernet is there
[18:06] <ioria> dany_    it's not tethering
[18:08] <dany_> iora your right
[18:11] <ioria> dany_     i repeat : maybe the issue is NM,  but to know that for sure you have to stop it and up the wifi interfaces manually
[18:11] <dany_> ioria_ how do i do that?
[18:12] <ioria> dany_    i told you before
[18:12] <dany_> ioria_ ok
[18:13] <dany_> ioria_ let me leave it alone
[18:13] <dany_> ioria_ i dont want to mess anyhting i dont understand
[18:14] <ioria> dany_    you don't mess anything .... a service can be stopped and restarted ... no files will be edited
[18:14] <user12312321> hey
[18:15] <user12312321> it's wrong if i install ubuntu on a virtual machine?
[18:15] <dany_> iora_ can you privately teach me linux
[18:15] <user12312321> it will run slow?
[18:15] <dany_> when you are not busy
[18:16] <xangua> user12312321: if you mean Ubuntu with unity desktop, probably...Try Lubuntu or Xubuntu for your virtual machine
[18:16] <user12312321> but can i do dual boot?
[18:16] <user12312321> my pc don't want to boot from a USB
[18:16] <user12312321> and can't burn a dvd
[18:17] <eurythmia> Hey folks; I'm writing an upstart job for autossh ... my autossh command is executed via the "exec" keyword. Upstart correctly runs my pre-start script, and autossh will start and spawn the ssh process, but when I run "status autossh" I get: autossh stop/waiting  ... does anybody have any ideas what might be going on here?
[18:18] <eurythmia> ... I am running ubuntu 13.10 on this server
[18:20] <snowgoogles> dany_: did you find any ubuntu forums to help resolve your specific wifi device problem?
[18:23] <Seburo> Hi.  Three day old Ubuntu convert would like a hand installing ClamAV with email protection for Thunderbird and the GUI.  Can anyone help?
[18:25] <baizon> Seburo: why? i dont have any av and im on linux for 4 years now
[18:27] <Seburo> baizon: Really?  I am being cautious or paranoid?  Should I not have something just in case?
[18:27] <baizon> Seburo: well if you dont open every zip then yes
[18:27] <iceroot_> Seburo: dont need an AV on GNU/Linux
[18:27] <baizon> Seburo: also you can send them in first
[18:27] <Seburo> What do you mean?
[18:29] <Pici> eurythmia: You may want to ask in #upstart, also 13.10 reached end of life in 2014. you should really thing about upgrading to 14.04, which has support until 2019.
[18:29] <Seburo> baizon: What do you mean by "send them in first"?
[18:29] <baizon> Seburo: i mean something like this if youre unsure about your attachment https://www.virustotal.com/
[18:29] <eurythmia> Thanks Pici. I'll look into both of those solutions.
[18:29] <xangua> ! Virus | Seburo
[18:31] <Seburo> xangua:  Thanks, but it is number seven on that list that concerns me - scanning email going to other people.
[18:32] <baizon> Seburo: thats why i meant unsure
[18:33] <baizon> Seburo: else, 99.9% viruses are written for windows, so they cant harm you
[18:33] <baizon> Seburo: (of course if you open them with wine you also get in trouble)
[18:33] <Seburo> baizon: online scanners are fine, but not handy whan all you want to do is attach and send an email.
[18:34] <baizon> Seburo: i havent used that site once, to be honest, just pointing out when you really really want to check
[18:34] <ZankarrUlEs> #ubuntu
[18:34] <daftykins> it's malware today and has been for years, 'virus' is really a 90s concept
[18:35] <eurythmia> Pici: I figured out the error ... it's because autossh was being started with '-f' (spawn into the background) ... when it runs in the foreground upstart can properly manage the process.
[18:35] <eurythmia> Pici: ... I'm still going to ask about upgrading this machine ... 13.10 is wayyy too old ;-)
[18:36] <Seburo> baizon: I knew I was going to be at lower risk with gnu/linux, but using a computer without anti malware is a very weird feeling.
[18:36] <lapyo> lol
[18:37] <baizon> Seburo: you will get used to it ;) i also wanted at the beginning to use an AV
[18:37] <lapyo> what's anti malware
[18:37] <squinty> Seburo,  might want to check out the official Thunderbird irc channel at  irc.mozilla.org #thunderbird
[18:37] <Seburo> baizon: have you had any malware issues?
[18:38] <baizon> Seburo: like i said, not once, and its 4 years, and 5 machines
[18:38] <Seburo> squinty: I will do, they are a great team.
[18:39]  * squinty muses "bet there are a number of Apple users who thought that too."
[18:39] <daftykins> every OS is susceptible to browser based malware, so just for running Linux you can't get too cocky
[18:39] <Seburo> squinty: lol
[18:39] <jeeves_moss> does anyone have the settings for WVdial for Telus?
[18:40] <Seburo> daftykins: so what is the ubuntu solution?
[18:40] <daftykins> for what
[18:42] <Seburo> daftykins: to make sure you are protected?
[18:43]  * Seburo blames Microsoft for the paranoia.
[18:43] <daftykins> nothing.
[18:43] <jeeves_moss> is there a way to add WVdial to the interfaces file?
[18:43] <daftykins> Seburo: that's a stupid statement
[18:44] <Seburo> daftykins:  apologies, I was a bit harsh.  But to be using an OS that does not need am software having come from something where it is jolly handy is very weird.
[18:45] <daftykins> Seburo: strange, i just said that all OSs are susceptible to hassle in the browser and yet you say that
[18:45] <daftykins> ho-hum
[18:46] <Seburo> daftkins:  Oh, I see what you mean.  Ubuntu still susceptible in browswer, but outside of that it has a different risk profile?
[18:47] <daftykins> than Windows, yes.
[18:50] <Seburo> daftykins: Got it.  Still feels weird, but alongside the quality of this software, the lack of clutter and the really nice interface, it is another thing to smile about. :-)
[18:51] <daftykins> if you say so, i don't use it
[18:52] <Seburo> daftkins: you do not use ubuntu?
[18:53] <daftykins> not desktop, no
[18:55] <Seburo> Thank you for your help, bye.
[19:02] <Anthony-L> how do you exit the CLI?
[19:03] <ioria> Anthony-L, you mean the console ?  sudo service lightdm restart
[19:04] <daftykins> or a TTY? "exit"
[19:06] <jeeves_moss> is there a way to tail in php a /dev device?  I'd like to have the last 20 lines from /dev/ttyS4 being displayed on a web page
[19:11] <Anthony-L> ioria, no, like just the terminal.
[19:11] <Anthony-L> how do i just exit out?
[19:11] <ioria> exit
[19:11] <TweedleDum> It's possible to tune a piano in the key of C just intonation with minimal dissonance on the major 3rd and 5th
[19:11] <TweedleDum> oh .. wrong room
[19:11] <Seveas> TweedleDum: sudo dpkg-reconfigure piano :)
[19:12] <TweedleDum> lol
[19:12] <Anthony-L> ioria, okay, let me explain..
[19:12] <Anthony-L> i opened a terminal and typed in 'top' to see my computer resource usage. how would i exit out of that terminal now?
[19:12] <TweedleDum> there are some synthesizers for linux which are cool actually...the only instruments which can play in all 12 of the keys (chromatic scale) in perfect intonation are 1) multiple human voices and 2) synthesizer
[19:12] <ioria> Anthony-L,  q
[19:13] <TweedleDum> There's an Analog Modeling Synth for linux...it's in the xbuntu repos
[19:13] <Anthony-L> ioria, okay, that stopped it. how to exit manually?
[19:13] <Anthony-L> oh! i typed exit,duh.
[19:13] <Anthony-L> that did it
[19:13] <TweedleDum> control c will do it too
[19:13] <ioria> Anthony-L,  ok
[19:13] <Anthony-L> ioria, thank you
[19:13] <ioria> Anthony-L,  no p
[19:14] <TweedleDum> within the terminal window Ctrl + C closes basially whatever's running
[19:15] <snowgoogles> Anthony-L: if you are more GUI inclined install system monitor...but it uses up more resources than top
[19:15] <Anthony-L> i'm trying to get more familiar with the CLI
[19:15] <Anthony-L> i've been handicapped by Windows my whole life. :(
[19:15] <TweedleDum> hah
[19:15] <snowgoogles> Anthony-L: understand completely
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> Anthony-L  in a terminal, type bb, then hit enter
[19:16] <TweedleDum> Eh they all serve their purpose, my humble opinion.
[19:16] <Anthony-L> i'm really enjoying ubuntu right now. i love the simplicity.
[19:16] <snowgoogles> learn to sort your top fields then
[19:16] <Anthony-L> sort my top fields?
[19:16] <TweedleDum> What would be cool to see would be more non-unix-based free and or open source OS's (kernels basically)
[19:16] <TweedleDum> Yeah Anthony *buntu is a very clean friendly OS, whatever one you may have.
[19:16] <TweedleDum> Is this your first Linux distro?
[19:17] <Anthony-L> yes
[19:17] <TweedleDum> Cool. Welcome, then
[19:17] <snowgoogles> run top again..then press f to filter sort based on the field ie. res memory usage highlight it press "s" to set then q to go back into top with a new sort order you set
[19:17] <TweedleDum> You may like this page on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions
[19:17] <TweedleDum> Note if you sort the distributions by the number of precompiled binaries, Ubuntu basically almost takes the cake in sheer numbers.
[19:18] <TweedleDum> I recommend putting together a good repository list for software.
[19:19] <snowgoogles> Anthony-L: If you want coolness factor checkout conky and conky-manager...google some screenshots...
[19:19] <TweedleDum> What do you have Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc? And which version
[19:19] <alkisg> Anthony-L: did 16.04 work for you?
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> jeeves_moss  this looks promising to do what you want, takes a while to install, tho ... http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man1/a2x.1.html
[19:20] <TweedleDum> Well anthony-l in any case - https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ < it's not officially endorsed by Ubuntu but for me it has worked on whatever releases I've had of Ubuntu, and flavors etc. Go through and chek off everything
[19:21] <Anthony-L> i know i'm not suppose to be in here if i'm running 16.04
[19:21] <Anthony-L> that's what i have though
[19:21] <daftykins> no, pick what you actually use ;) don't just get everything
[19:21] <daftykins> Anthony-L: then off to #ubuntu+1 you go.
[19:21] <TweedleDum> Well 16.04 is on that generator :)
[19:21] <Anthony-L> daftykins, i'm asking general ubuntu questions though.
[19:21] <alkisg> Anthony-L: I'm only asking because I proposed it to you because of your graphics issues
[19:21] <Anthony-L> i'm not asking anything directed specifically toward 16.04
[19:21] <alkisg> And I didn't get to know if it works on your nvidia or not
[19:22] <TweedleDum> I check off myself Main, Restricted, Universe, Multiverse, actually all that
[19:22] <Anthony-L> alkisg, it worked! i'm really happy with it.
[19:22] <alkisg> Cool
[19:22] <TweedleDum> including 'source' of each one, but for third party just be selective based on what you want.
[19:22] <TweedleDum> have you used apt-get at all yet?
[19:22] <Anthony-L> yes
[19:22] <TweedleDum> ok cool so you're famiilar with some of the basics
[19:22] <daftykins> Anthony-L: sometimes they're general, sometimes they're general that are getting hit by a specific bug... there's a fine line -
[19:22] <Guest1926> hello
[19:23] <TweedleDum> and you know how to compile from source?
[19:23] <jeeves_moss> MonkeyDust: thanks.  I'll have a look at that.  right now, I'm trying to get a circlur logging program installed.  I'm trying to dump the GPS data to an external log file so I can use logstash-forwarder
[19:23] <TweedleDum> if you had say a .tar.gz of a program which wasn't in the repos or you wishe to compile yourself
[19:23] <Guest1926> i have a fresh in stall of ubuntu 14.04 how cani create password for root ?
[19:23] <Anthony-L> tweedleDum, someone showed me how, but i haven't memorized anything just yet. :) it's very overwhelming.
[19:23] <TweedleDum> yeah guest1926
[19:23] <TweedleDum> type sudo passwd
[19:23] <TweedleDum> sudo passwd whateverpassyouwant
[19:23] <alkisg> Guest1926: usually it's not needed, are you sure you need one?
[19:24] <TweedleDum> that'll set your root pass which you use for both sudo and su
[19:24] <TweedleDum> it's disouraged in the Ubuntu culture though
[19:24] <TweedleDum> The convenience is you can have a su session in the terminal and not have to type your password every 2 minutes.
[19:25] <alkisg> sudo -i gives you a root session as well
[19:25] <TweedleDum> The downsides are as su you've got full root privs and *can* screw things up, but if you anticipate things you should be safe. Just definitely imho avoid logging in as the root user.
[19:25] <TweedleDum> For a full session.
[19:25]  * alkisg has seen ubuntu installations getting hit by viruses because they set root password=1234 :)
[19:25] <gdery> how do i delete software completely using the terminal in ubuntu?
[19:25] <TweedleDum> oh cool alkisg. is there any downside to making your own root password and not using it for su?
[19:26] <TweedleDum> apt-get purge
[19:26] <Guest1926> when i enter su in terminal it wants me password what should i enter?
[19:26] <nacc> gdery: `apt-get purge pkgname`
[19:26] <TweedleDum> sudo apt-get purge <whateverprogram>
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> jeeves_moss  here's what you do: tail -n 2 [your file] > output_file; a2x -f chunked output_file
[19:26] <daftykins> alkisg: well that's strange, because root doesn't have a password as default on ubuntu... so that'd have to be naive users making foolish changes.
[19:26] <alkisg> TweedleDum: if you set a root password, it (used to be) valid for any type of login, even ssh... I think they've changed that recently though
[19:27] <TweedleDum> There is no password by default at all?
[19:27] <TweedleDum> Wonder how they did that
[19:27] <alkisg> daftykins: it was a 70-year old debian sysadmin, installing ubuntu in schools the way he was used to from debian
[19:27] <Guest1926> when i enter su in terminal it wants me password what should i enter?
[19:27] <TweedleDum> Oh I see alkisg I was curious about that. I guess a good iptables setup along with something like pgl (peerguardian) would make that safer.
[19:27] <daftykins> TweedleDum: because you sudo to root, so it either has a super long auto generated one that's not shared - or none in essence
[19:28] <TweedleDum> Oh right, i was thinking maybe a very long autogen pass yea
[19:28] <Guest1926> daftykins, why it wants a password?
[19:28] <daftykins> Guest1926: you don't use 'su' on Ubuntu.
[19:28] <gdery> what's that shorter command to remove program beginning with ~
[19:28] <TweedleDum> So by default in Ubuntu your sudo password is the one for your user account right?
[19:28] <alkisg> Guest1926: sudo `sudo -i` isntead
[19:28] <gdery> erase?
[19:28] <jeeves_moss> MonkeyDust: will that work in a headless system?  How would I set that up to it runs at boot?
[19:28] <alkisg> *use
[19:28] <TweedleDum> I use the stupidest root password... toor
[19:28] <daftykins> TweedleDum: if that user is an admin yes
[19:28] <TweedleDum> (yes, i know)
[19:28] <jeeves_moss> MonkeyDust: this is what I'm fighting with right now.  http://www.circlemud.org/jelson/software/emlog/
[19:29] <TweedleDum> Oh ok dafty. Ty
[19:29] <Bingo> Hello.  I understand to select "Install from the liveCD, not TRY Ubuntu, to put the Ubuntu onto a partition of it's own ?
[19:29] <TweedleDum> Here's a question I have actually: Is there actually anything that Kali *does* which U/K/Xbuntu can't do?
[19:30] <Guest1926> alkisg, sudo `sudo -i`
[19:30] <Guest1926> [sudo] password for mohammad:
[19:30] <Guest1926> root@mohammad-LIFEBOOK-AH532-G21:~#
[19:30] <TweedleDum> Like people seem to think for pentesting wifi you need Kali. Yet, Ubuntu runs mk3, aircrack-ng suite, kismet... all perfectly
[19:30] <genii> Hm, root
[19:30] <TweedleDum> That shows you've logged in as root.
[19:30] <alkisg> Guest1926: the first "sudo" there was supposed to be "use", I typed wrong. So, to gain root, use: sudo -i
[19:31] <alkisg> Guest1926: now you are root, you can do what you would do with "su -"
[19:31] <TweedleDum> By the way type <exit> to get out of the root session in the terminal without closing the terminal window.
[19:31] <Bingo> bcbc around any ?
[19:31] <TweedleDum> Haven't seen them
[19:32] <Guest1926> alkisg,  su -
[19:32] <Guest1926> Password:
[19:32] <Guest1926> su: Authentication failure
[19:32] <daftykins> i said don't use su.
[19:32] <alkisg> Guest1926: right, don't use su
[19:32] <TweedleDum> Is it stupi to tell Xubuntu to load both Gnome and KDE things on startup?
[19:32] <TweedleDum> Also, what's the difference between an XFCE session and Xubuntu Session
[19:32] <TweedleDum> Can't figure that one out.
[19:33] <daftykins> kind of odd to run xubuntu and have anything gnome or KDE even installed.
[19:33] <TweedleDum> Why?
[19:33] <alkisg> Bingo: install from live cd means to only show the installer, not the unity menus etc.
[19:33] <Guest1926> sudo -i
[19:33] <daftykins> extra cruft.
[19:33] <Guest1926> root@mohammad-LIFEBOOK-AH532-G21:~#
[19:33] <TweedleDum> gnome and KDE software both work with XFCE
[19:33] <TweedleDum> for the most part.
[19:33] <daftykins> Guest1926: yep. please don't paste so much though, we didn't need to know that
[19:33] <Bingo> alkisg - I am trying to avoid wubi
[19:33] <Guest1926> daftykins, okay excuse me
[19:33] <TweedleDum> maybe i'm wrong but it seems to me XFCE lacks its own specific software, but perhaps the stuff i use that's native to gnome like gparted is modified for xfce
[19:33] <alkisg> Bingo: either create a partition for ubuntu, or use virtualbox
[19:33] <jonascj> Do the current live images include a text installer you could start by changing TTY on install (away from ctrl+alt+f7 or ctrl+alt+f1 to e.g. ctrl+alt+f3) and run "./tui-install" or similar?
[19:34] <TweedleDum> Yes
[19:34] <TweedleDum> Or VMWare Workstation 12
[19:34] <TweedleDum> If you install virtualbox don't forget to install the kernel headers
[19:34] <alkisg> jonascj: I don't think ubiquity has a text version, no. So I don't think the live images have what you say
[19:35] <Bingo> alkisg - a partition, and where does Ubuntu come from?
[19:35] <TweedleDum> Well, nevermind, the software center will take care of it.
[19:35] <daftykins> jonascj: you tend to get different media if you want text install
[19:35] <jonascj> there is this "ubuntu d-i" which is the "debian installer". But I can't figure out how to get hold of it
[19:35] <alkisg> Bingo: I don't understand your question, maybe you need to reask it with more context
[19:35] <daftykins> jonascj: why do you want text install?
[19:35] <TweedleDum> You're trying to change package managers?
[19:35] <TweedleDum> oh.
[19:36] <Bingo> alkisg - If I do not install from liveCD "Try" then what do I do?
[19:36] <linuxlove> Gallomimia,
[19:37] <TweedleDum> Does anyone know a good easy to use (GUI) alt to the Windows data loss prevention program called
[19:37] <TweedleDum> Uh, ok.. schizophrenia is making me blank
[19:37] <alkisg> Bingo: there are two options there, "try it" or "install it". In "try it" you get a live session where you can try ubuntu or even install it. With "install it" you only get the installer. In both cases the installation is the same.
[19:37] <TweedleDum> Devicelock
[19:37] <daftykins> "data loss prevention" - what do you mean by this? i admin windows and have no idea what you're saying
[19:38] <Bingo> alkisg - I used liveCD, and it installed putting wubi on, and I cannot use it.
[19:38] <OddDuck> Is there a place I can look at and tweak the settings of a connection defined with nm-openvpn (network-manager-openvpn)
[19:38] <TweedleDum> Well daftykins DLP is a bit complicated to understand
[19:38] <TweedleDum> or explain but
[19:38] <Bingo> I mean, the install worked, but the dual-boot is messed up
[19:38] <alkisg> Bingo: wubi only appeared in previous versions and only if you ran it inside windows. So, boot from the live cd without running it from inside windows.
[19:38] <TweedleDum> What that software does is lock down things like physical ports and also various protocols
[19:38] <daftykins> TweedleDum: ah yes, how will i with my feeble working in IT for 20 years mind possibly understand...
[19:38] <daftykins> ;)
[19:39] <daftykins> !wubi
[19:39] <jonascj> daftykins: I've read that the ubuntu text based install should be similar (if not the same) as the debian text installer, and it might have more partitioning options than the current gui installer. Specifically I am choosing btrfs subvolume ids during partitioning / mount-pointi-ing. So I wanted to check out this "text installer" or "debian-install
[19:39] <jonascj> er"
[19:39] <TweedleDum> The way it does it is by controlling that stuff via basially a different admin account from what I an tell
[19:39] <TweedleDum> Well I don't know daftykins if you are an IT pro and haven't heard of DLP I'm surprised, not to be rude
[19:39] <TweedleDum> But it's on the A+
[19:39] <Bingo> OIC.. alkisg - I boot the livecd from power-on, then?
[19:39] <daftykins> TweedleDum: that course is a joke.
[19:39] <alkisg> Bingo: bingo!
[19:39] <TweedleDum> Not really, no
[19:39] <Bingo> it wont use wubi ?
[19:39] <alkisg> No, it won't
[19:39] <TweedleDum> http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/data-loss-prevention-DLP
[19:39] <daftykins> NOBODY should use WUBI.
[19:40] <Bingo> Kool beanies !!!!
[19:40] <TweedleDum> lol
[19:40] <daftykins> jonascj: server media or mini.iso can do this, but you should be able to use any and all tools within desktop to get btrfs stuff going, then just pick the mount points to install to
[19:40] <TweedleDum> Well some of it's kind of tedious I guess but I went over the professor messer youtube vids for it daf... and do you IT pros actually memorize like every standard type of motherboard?
[19:40] <daftykins> TweedleDum: i mean i know of Microsoft's Data Protection Manager... but...
[19:41] <Bingo> daftykins - um, yeah. if wubi gots update, or if g4dos would work.. then gpt/uefi systems would be ok
[19:41] <daftykins> Bingo: it's abandoned, if you try and use WUBI you will get no support here
[19:41] <daftykins> it's an abomination :)
[19:41] <TweedleDum> Well there's DLP which is in some professional IT equipment, like standalone DLP machines
[19:41] <Bingo> technical. it is there
[19:42] <daftykins> TweedleDum: nope not the same thing - this is quite off topic now as well, so lets steer it back to ubuntu support only.
[19:42] <Bingo> it (wubi) put ubuntu on my windows
[19:42] <TweedleDum> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_loss_prevention_software there that's a lot better if you're actually curious still
[19:42] <daftykins> Bingo: ok well you're here now and it's unsupported, so you'll need to reinstall properly to get some help
[19:42] <alkisg> Bingo: btw, which ubuntu version did you install? I thought it wasn't there at all in recent versinos...
[19:43] <Bingo> eh.. well, I am about to rip out wubi, and install.. so wish me luck !
[19:43] <daftykins> TweedleDum: right so it's a term and not actually a specific feature name - fair enough
[19:43] <Bingo> which means.. loosing all i got here so far.
[19:43] <jonascj> daftykins: Sure I can move things around after installation (rename subvols, create new, copy files, modify fstab etc.), but it just feels like you should be able to do it during install - maybe with this text installer
[19:44] <TweedleDum> Yeah daftykins like I said I'm schizophrenic so a program like Devicelock Pro at least makes me not stay up all night packet sniffing in wireshark...and then wondering if I need to buy an osciloscope and undertand binary to be sure the CIA isnt spying on me....
[19:44] <TweedleDum> but yes off topic.. unless anyone knows of a linux alt :) im gonna ask around online now.
[19:44] <daftykins> TweedleDum: i take it you're in your teens from that utterly ridiculous spiel
[19:45] <Bingo> tweedle a bit paranoid?
[19:45] <TweedleDum> I wish.. I'm 27.
[19:45] <daftykins> sorry but i'm going to have to ignore you now, that was ridiculous
[19:45] <TweedleDum> On and off. Oh I don't are, there are plenty of judgemental women on irc.
[19:46] <Bingo> i'm scared to do this. gulp
[19:47] <TweedleDum> heh... I was actually being serious but just making light of what actually happens.
[19:47]  * TweedleDum observes the crickets
[19:47] <Bingo> thanks alkisg
[19:51]  * TweedleDum chuckles
[19:51] <TweedleDum> Well, now I know where this train's emergency brake is
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> TweedleDum  drop the random remarks
[19:52] <TweedleDum> Ok I will.
[19:53] <dax> For the avoidance of doubt: 1) This is an Ubuntu support channel, and only Ubuntu support is allowed here. 2) We have #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat, 3) Schizophrenia is not a "get out of channel guidelines" card, and if your mental state makes you unable to correctly use the channel, please do not use the channel.
[19:54] <DrManslave[MD]> I don't want to get out of the guidelines. I just like to explain to people why I'm a little "off" sometimes. I'm happy to follow your rules and will join the other channel too.
[19:54] <markwillis> When reading about upstart I also come across the phrase that "events are generated by the kernel". Wouldn't be it more appropriate to say that events are generated by the kernel in response to some real events?
[19:54] <linuxlove> hello
[19:55] <linuxlove> how can i open port 22 for just one user in ubuntu 14.04?
[19:55] <DrManslave[MD]> " Some confusion seems to arise since the messages Upstart uses to start and stop services are called "events", and udev receives a different type of "events" from the kernel. "
[19:56] <DrManslave[MD]> linuxlove: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/145929/how-to-ensure-ssh-port-is-only-open-to-a-specific-ip-address
[19:56] <dax> linuxlove: see the "AllowUsers section in man sshd_config
[19:57] <DrManslave[MD]> sshd_config add AllowUsers root@[Your_Home_IP]
[19:58] <DrManslave[MD]> then the second line: PermitRootLogin without-password
[19:59] <linuxlove> i cant see /etc/sysconfig/iptables
[19:59] <daftykins> DrManslave[MD]: no, we do not tell people to permit root login in here.. that's idiotic
[19:59] <markwillis> <DrManslave[MD]: yes, it's what I meant, I think
[20:00] <markwillis> daftykins: it depends on him, I think
[20:00] <drkjstr> Another option is to disallow password authentication in sshd_config, and have the user use an RSA Key.
[20:01] <daftykins> i don't think you should permit any level of remote root login - it's trivial to connect in via a standard user then sudo up if you need to
[20:01] <linuxlove> i cant see /etc/sysconfig/iptables
[20:01] <daftykins> that's a statement, not a support question
[20:02] <linuxlove> daftykins, i am not here to learn grammer
[20:02] <cryptomonk> How can you have Ubuntu 14.04 reconfigure and get X to work again as it did on initial install?
[20:03] <cryptomonk> I fucked up by trying to install CUDA and nvidia drivers which apparently my card doesnt support too old.
[20:03] <cryptomonk> now X is borked
[20:03] <daftykins> linuxlove: that's not my point, we don't know what you're after - we can ASSUME - but it's better that you just ask properly the first time.
[20:03] <Delvien> cryptomonk: have you tried using additional drivers app to install the ones that ubuntu auto-detected for you?
[20:03] <alkisg> cryptomonk: remove all nvidia packages and rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf...
[20:03] <daftykins> !language | cryptomonk
[20:03] <cryptomonk> I dont know how to get ubuntu to detect drivers
[20:04] <cryptomonk> sorry
[20:04] <daftykins> sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[20:04] <cryptomonk> ok all nvidia stuff has been purged
[20:04] <cryptomonk> I even tried installing the nouveu firmware and nouveau xorg -trusty
[20:05] <Delvien> cryptomonk: run "software-properties-gtk" via alt-f2, or in a term however you normally run commands
[20:05] <cryptomonk> I dont have X so doing his from cli
[20:05] <cryptomonk> Im comfortable w/ the commandline
[20:05] <Delvien> I see.
[20:05] <daftykins> just reboot.
[20:05] <cryptomonk> k
[20:06] <daftykins> the nouveau stuff sounds like you find a funky guide online? :)
[20:06] <cryptomonk> lightdm comes up but as soon as I login (at 640x480) it instantly crashes and goes back to login
[20:06] <daftykins> that's now, or before?
[20:06] <cryptomonk> no I just remember when I first went down this venture the CUDA installer said it was removing nouveau
[20:06] <alkisg> Did you remove xorg.conf?
[20:06] <cryptomonk> yes... rebooting
[20:07] <cryptomonk> ok same thing
[20:07] <cryptomonk> loging crash
[20:07] <cryptomonk> er login
[20:08] <markwillis> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/upstart_cookbook.pdf "For example, if the job is currently in state starting, and its goal is start, it will then move to the pre-start state" - how does the table which is shown above implies it, would you explain?
[20:09] <Delvien> cryptomonk: did you make a backup of xorg.conf before you messed around?
[20:09] <cryptomonk> no
[20:09] <Delvien> if not the tool might of
[20:09] <alkisg> cryptomonk: and what does /var/log/Xorg*.log.old say about the crash?
[20:09] <daftykins> markwillis: are you sure it's worth studying the old system?
[20:09] <cryptomonk> but whatever xorg I had originally was autogenerated by Ubuntu on  install
[20:09] <markwillis> daftykins: is upstart no longer used?
[20:09] <alkisg> There's no xorg.conf by default
[20:09] <daftykins> markwillis: nope, systemd now
[20:10] <cryptomonk> says something about nvidia card supports use 304 something,  then falling back to FBDEV
[20:10] <markwillis> daftykins: oh, another novelty...
[20:10] <daftykins> (in 15.04, 15.10 and 16.04)
[20:10] <markwillis> daftykins: but these are not LTS
[20:10] <Delvien> cryptomonk:  "locate xorg.conf" and see if there is a "backup" somewhere
[20:10] <alkisg> cryptomonk: what's the output of: dpkg -l '*nvidia*' | grep ^ii
[20:10] <cryptomonk> final error is "(EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Invalid argument"
[20:10] <Delvien> cryptomonk: anyway, good luck, gotta get back to work :)_
[20:10] <daftykins> markwillis: then you're either EOL or looking at the wrong tech still
[20:11] <markwillis> daftykins: why "at the wrong tech" ?
[20:11] <cryptomonk> nothing
[20:11] <daftykins> markwillis: what version systems are you dealing with?
[20:11] <markwillis> daftykins: 14.04
[20:12] <cryptomonk> 14.04 is EOL?
[20:12] <alkisg> cryptomonk: did you also install nvidia without using a package manager? e.g. by some-installer.bin?
[20:12] <daftykins> that *is* LTS and is the last release still on upstart
[20:12] <cryptomonk> alkisg yes tried using the .deb from the nvidia site
[20:12] <cryptomonk> then apt-get install cuda
[20:12] <daftykins> never download from nvidia.
[20:12] <cryptomonk> then that went south so I removed that, then downloaded the NVIDIA-352.bin and used that
[20:13] <daftykins> also a mistake
[20:13] <daftykins> deal with packages only :) from ubuntu's own repos
[20:13] <cryptomonk> how I finally found out my version wasn't supported and had to use the 304 package, then that complained about having another system installed
[20:13] <markwillis> daftykins: so upstart still lives
[20:13] <alkisg> cryptomonk: find uninstall instructions for that NVIDIA-352.bin
[20:13] <cryptomonk> daftykins: but it doesnt support CUDA
[20:13] <cryptomonk> at this point dont care about cuda just want my system to work
[20:13] <markwillis> is there an error in the table or in the text or it is that I just don't understand something?
[20:13] <daftykins> markwillis: yep but if you're taking the time to learn, just bear in mind it'll not be of any use once 14.04 is gone
[20:14] <cryptomonk> What is the LTS version now? thought it was 14.04 I might just wipe this machine
[20:14] <markwillis> daftykins: OK, but it is of use right now
[20:14] <compdoc> 14.04, yes. soon to be 16.04
[20:14] <daftykins> 12.04 and 14.04 are LTS... 16.04 is out next month
[20:15] <alkisg> daftykins: doesn't 16.04 also use upstart inside the user sessions?
[20:15] <daftykins> pass.
[20:15]  * alkisg would love it if it didnt... :-/
[20:16] <markwillis> OK, could someone tell me if I don't understand that table correctly or if there is just a mistake?
[20:21] <kki> Hi,
[20:23] <reisio> hi
[20:23] <Seveas> daftykins: it does :(
[20:24] <skypce> hello all
[20:24] <skypce> http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/how-to-save-and-restore-unity-session.html
[20:25] <reisio> hi
[20:25] <skypce> i want add the "session save" command before close all applications
[20:25] <skypce> how can i do it please?
[20:26] <daftykins> Seveas: was that in response to the question i said 'pass' to? if so, perhaps the person asking it is the better recipient :)
[20:26] <Seveas> yes. And that person left :)
[20:27] <skypce> i am talking about keep all windows opened when you reboot or logout the machine
[20:28] <skypce> any idea is welcome
[20:28] <skypce> :)
[20:28] <kki> Can anyone help me to find out why the network-manager not use the eth0? I used wifi before and it works well, but tomorrow my isp going to connect my home to the optical network, so i need to use my lan card. Now I connect the lan cable, and nothing happen, if i set interfaces to eth0 auto dhcp manualy netowk-manager says it not managed, but still no connection. So please...
[20:29] <DrManslave[MD]> check ifconfig?
[20:29] <bekks> kki: does you modem/route provide dhcp addresses to clients?
[20:29] <DrManslave[MD]> see if its listed there
[20:29] <DrManslave[MD]> if its not type iwconfig and see the interface name then iwconfig <interface> up
[20:29] <BluesKaj> kki, blame systemd , run ip addr to see your ethernet name
[20:29] <Seveas> kki: remove it completely from /etc/network/interfaces
[20:29] <NoCode> Hi, where is apt.conf located?
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[20:30] <NoCode> I used locate, but it doesn't show.
[20:30] <Seveas> kki: and then follow the usual troubleshooting processes (do you ahve link, does dhcp work, can you ping your gateway, can you ping 8.8.8.8, does DNS work...)
[20:30] <DrManslave[MD]> try whereis?
[20:30] <skypce> NoCode,
[20:30] <Seveas> NoCode: it's in /etc/apt
[20:30] <DrManslave[MD]> :)
[20:31] <NoCode> Okay thanks sir.
[20:31] <NoCode> Cheers.
[20:31] <Seveas> NoCode: and if it isn't you don't have it :)
[20:31] <skypce> try to do a sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager;sudo apt-get install network-manager
[20:31] <DrManslave[MD]> yeah
[20:31] <bekks> skypce: This isnt windows. It will not help.
[20:31] <DrManslave[MD]> it actually can.
[20:31] <Seveas> bekks++
[20:31] <bekks> DrManslave[MD]: On Windows.
[20:31] <DrManslave[MD]> Only on windows does reinstalling something after completely removing all traces of it help?
[20:31] <DrManslave[MD]> No
[20:32] <skypce> time ago i fix the network manager of this way
[20:32] <skypce> i was delete the package by error
[20:32] <xangua> Not a good idea to remove network manager either... skypce
[20:32] <NoCode> Yeah. It's not there.
[20:32] <kki> I'll be back :)
[20:32] <skypce> hey
[20:32] <NoCode> Is there something I should install to get the apt.conf to show up?
[20:33] <Seveas> NoCode: then you don't have it :) You can create it if you want to add some manual configuration, or look in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ for config snippets added by Ubuntu
[20:33] <skypce> the package is this
[20:33] <skypce> network-manager-gnome
[20:33] <NoCode> Seveas: I'm just trying to set recommends and suggests to 0
[20:33] <Seveas> NoCode: but don't edit things in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/, if you want to add your own config, just create /etc/apt/apt.conf
[20:34] <skypce> i remember that time ago i was made .conf modifications, but with network-manager-gnome configure all that you need
[20:34] <skypce> sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager-gnome
[20:35] <skypce> it manage by default via dhcp
[20:35] <NoCode> How would the syntax be for the file? "APT::Install-Recommends 0" APT::Install-Suggests 0"
[20:35] <Seveas> suggests is 0 by default, APT::Install-Recommends "false";
[20:35] <skypce> NoCode,  use synaptic
[20:35] <Seveas> skypce: can you please stop with the nonsense advice?
[20:35] <NoCode> Current'y I'm in a tty.
[20:36] <skypce> ok
[20:36] <shlant> hi all. noticed a bunch of zombie ssh processes on my servers. I usually use ~. to exit ssh sessions. Would that cause the zombies? if not what would? network connection loss? is there a way to prevent the zombie build up?
[20:36] <Seveas> shlant: yes, that would cause the zombies. Just log out.
[20:36] <Seveas> type exit, or hit <ctrl>d
[20:37] <NoCode> Seveas: "APT::Install-Recommends "false";" with or without the semi-colon?
[20:38] <skypce> NoCode, did you try with aptitude?
[20:38] <skypce> aptitude works in console
[20:38] <Seveas> NoCode: with.
[20:38] <NoCode> Okay, thanks sir.
[20:38] <bekks> skypce: As does apt-get, apt, and dpkg.
[20:39] <shlant> Seveas: dang! alright, good to know, thanks!
[20:41] <anonymous> hii
[20:41] <anonymous> xd
[20:41] <Guest22331> holaa
[20:43] <HanKtheRobot4> Where is the Ubuntu Borg today?
[20:43] <Seveas> HanKtheRobot4: delta quadrant
[20:43] <HanKtheRobot4> 3
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> you will be assimilated
[20:44] <HanKtheRobot4> 3 is the first prime number
[20:44] <HanKtheRobot4> and it also happens to singularity too.
[20:44] <HanKtheRobot4> Ai
[20:44] <HanKtheRobot4> ubuntubot:
[20:45] <HanKtheRobot4> ubuntudroid:
[20:45] <HanKtheRobot4> ubuntuandroid:
[20:45] <Ben64> HanKtheRobot4: stop.
[20:45] <HanKtheRobot4> ubuntuai:
[20:45] <Seveas> HanKtheRobot4: cut it out.
[20:45] <HanKtheRobot4> one of your devs has been harrassing people and sending PM's saying he is the Ubuntu Droid.
[20:45] <HanKtheRobot4> he works at IBM
[20:46] <HanKtheRobot4> and he is also an Ubuntu dev
[20:46] <HanKtheRobot4> I think Canonical should look into this.
[20:46] <bekks> HanKtheRobot4: So contact Canonical then.
[20:46] <bekks> HanKtheRobot4: This is the volunteer support community, not the Canonical support.
[20:47] <Seveas> bekks: they still don't pay you? :)
[20:47] <bekks> Seveas: Nah :)
[20:48] <HanKtheRobot4> bekks: I already contacted Canonical but he not part of Canonical.
[20:48] <HanKtheRobot4> he is part of your volunteer team.
[20:48] <Seveas> neither me. Though I did get invited to some ubuntu conferences a decade ago :)
[20:48] <HanKtheRobot4> oh well, I guess he was just having fun and watching too much Star Trek this past weekend.
[20:48] <HanKtheRobot4> no harm done, I love Ubuntu!
[20:49] <HanKtheRobot4> thanks for your efforts ;-)
[20:49] <richieacc> Greetings. I have just installed Ubuntu Mate on my new RaspberryPi 3. It's amazing. I'm loving this combo. I'm trying to program my Arduino from it. In Arduino IDE I'm getting the error, "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified." I've figured that I need to add something to the sudoers config file. But I'm not sure what command needs to be added. I've put a tail on /var/log/auth.log, and that shows the authentication attempt
[20:49] <HanKtheRobot4> have a good day.
[20:50] <Seveas> richieacc: how are you executing sudo?
[20:50] <daftykins> #ubuntu-arm might be of use since that's a Pi.
[20:50] <Seveas> richieacc: it wants your password but has no way to ask you for one.
[20:50] <richieacc> Seveas: it is run internally by the Arduino IDE.
[20:50] <genii> !info ssh-askpass:arm
[20:51] <richieacc> If I run the IDE from the console, then the console asks me for a password at that point, then it works, so I am certain that adding the correct command to sudoers will do the trick.
[20:51] <Seveas> richieacc: Add this near the top of sudoers: Path askpass /usr/bin/ssh-askpass
[20:52] <Seveas> richieacc: or change your authorization line in sudoers not to require a password (not recommended)
[20:52] <richieacc> daftykins, that is usefull, though this is not a pi specific question. Thanks.
[20:52] <richieacc> Nooo, not recommended at all.
[20:52] <richieacc> Path with uppercase P?
[20:52] <Seveas> according to the mancage yes
[20:52] <imrekt> pastebinit isn't working on Ubuntu Server 14.04?
[20:52] <Seveas> hmm, mancage. Horrible typo :D
[20:52] <richieacc> ok... lemme try that...
[20:53] <bekks> imrekt: Works fine for me.
[20:53] <daftykins> richieacc: it actually is based on package availability
[20:53] <imrekt> I just installed it and tried it out it does nothing
[20:53] <bekks> imrekt: How did you try it?
[20:54] <imrekt> I was trying to pastebin a problem first
[20:54] <Seveas> koekblik:~$ echo 'Hi imrekt!' | pastebinit
[20:54] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323429/
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> imrekt  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323433/
[20:54] <imrekt> I use && :P
[20:54] <richieacc> Seveas: it is not liking that line
[20:54] <salamanderrake> how do I find out why packages are being held back during and upgrade?
[20:54] <Seveas> imrekt: that doesn't work of course...
[20:55] <bekks> imrekt: that will not work.
[20:55] <imrekt> | worked but it's saying I'm trying to send a empty document
[20:55] <richieacc> Ah, package not installed...
[20:55] <richieacc> Fixing...
[20:55] <daftykins> your command is bad, then
[20:56] <imrekt> It was python __main__.py | pastebinit
[20:56] <imrekt> was trying to pastebin a error
[20:56] <Seveas> richieacc: the line actually goes into sudo.conf (which I've never used!)
[20:56] <bekks> imrekt: you need to redirect stderr to stdout first
[20:56] <\9> imrekt: use python __main__.py 2&>1 |pastebinit
[20:56] <Seveas> imrekt: then your __main__.py doesn't output anything.
[20:56] <\9> imrekt: so as to redirect stderr to stdout so that it can be pasted
[20:56] <bekks> Seveas: It does, but to stderr, not stdout.
[20:56] <imrekt> Seveas: it does
[20:57] <Seveas> \9: &| is short for 2>&1 |
[20:57] <imrekt> bekks: how would I do this
[20:57] <\9> Seveas: oh? cool
[20:57] <\9> imrekt: I just told you how
[20:57] <imrekt> k
[20:57] <imrekt> -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'
[20:58] <\9> imrekt: python __main__.py 2>&1 | pastebinit
[20:58] <\9> sorry, had a typo in there
[20:58] <imrekt> that works, thank you
[20:58] <richieacc> Seveas: do you know where that file needs to be created? The man page is unclear.
[20:59] <Seveas> richieacc: try /etc/sudo.conf
[20:59] <Seveas> man sudo says it goes there
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> salamanderrake  for completeness, try:  apt-show-versions|grep -v uptodate
[21:00] <ionte_> hi. quick question: i'm a long term linux user who has been using mostly osx for the last years. back on ubuntu 14.04. i wan't to use two keyboard layouts (swedish and english). however, on multiple computers and multiple distro versions i have problem with getting this working consistently even on a new installation
[21:00] <richieacc> Ah. I didn't think to check sudo man, I checked sudo.conf
[21:00] <ionte_> it typically works for a while after booting. but after a couple of minutes suddenly switching keyboard, even with the keyboard switcher applet, does not work anymore
[21:01] <HanKtheRobot4> Why does the official Nvidia drivers for Linux break updates?
[21:01] <rinpoo> hi there does anyone know how to search in selected folders only?
[21:01] <ionte_> i have to switch back and forth a few times until it sticks. and then a little while later, after changinge windows etc, it's the same story again
[21:02] <reisio> rinpoo: search for what?
[21:02] <HanKtheRobot4> Is it still because of the STOLEN SGI CODE in the NVIDIA linux firmware?
[21:02] <reisio> HanKtheRobot4: I'd say in general it's because they're crap
[21:02] <ionte_> any ideas? this is obviously a bug, and a quite serious as it happens on each new installation, but i have not found much discussion on the internet...
[21:02] <reisio> ionte_: what's your implementation?
[21:03] <ionte_> reisio, of what?
[21:03] <ionte_> currently i'm running Ubuntu 14.04. had this problem with Unity. Changed to Gnome Shell: same thing. Changed to Xubuntu: same thing
[21:03] <salamanderrake> MonkeyDust: this is actually within steams runtime sdk chroot and I am trying to install mono > 2.* https://gist.github.com/salamanderrake/fbcba21098c5497b6c33
[21:03] <reisio> ionte_: of your layout switching
[21:04] <rinpoo> files
[21:04] <rinpoo> I want to search for a filename in specific folders
[21:04] <ionte_> reisio: well, i have caps lock bound to change layout, but i had the same problem using ctrl+space and most seriously i have the same problem when using the default keyboard switching applet as well!
[21:05] <salamanderrake> MonkeyDust: when I first run the upgrade command it started but perl complained about the locales being set to default and default was not found
[21:05] <reisio> rinpoo: find dir1/ dir2/ dir3/ -type f -iname '*foo*bar*'
[21:05] <rinpoo> I kind of want to do that in the filemanager
[21:05] <Bashing-om> ionte_: What options are set in the control file " /etc/default/keyboard " ? For instance : XKBLAYOUT="us,ua,ru"  .
[21:06] <rinpoo> I have to move the files afterward
[21:06] <rinpoo> and it way too much work to do that in the terminal
[21:07] <bekks> rinpoo: finding files and moving them away is a oneliner in terminal.
[21:07] <richieacc> I found my solution. When I actually type the password on the command line, the command that is executed gets written to /var/log/auth.log. If it is not authenticated, then the command is not logged, which is perhaps not great, but possibly configurable. That gave me the commands that I needed to add to sudoers.
[21:07] <ionte_> Bashing-om: XKBMODEL="pc105", XKBLAYOUT="se", XKBVARIANT="", XKBOPTIONS="". i havn't touched it.
[21:07] <rinpoo> not if I need to sort the files
[21:07] <rinpoo> I have to sort them in different folders
[21:08] <rinpoo> no chance Im gonna do that in terminal
[21:08] <ionte_> Bashing-om: i guess that might explain why i got swedish keyboard, even after *removing* swedish keyboard layout in the keyboard settings!
[21:08] <NoCode> Should I install xinit? What's the best updated option to install a login screen? The name escapes me right now.
[21:08] <rinpoo> Im currently using nemo
[21:08] <rinpoo> maybe somebody knows a filemanger that can do that
[21:08] <Bashing-om> ionte_: I would open file /etc/default/keyboard and add necessary options: here 'us' .
[21:09] <ionte_> Bashing-om: as in XKBOPTIONS="us"?
[21:09] <ionte_> and keep XKBLAYOUT="se"?
[21:10] <NoCode> I guess an x display manager.
[21:10] <Bashing-om> ionte_: XKBLAYOUT="us,se" ; is what I would do .. assuming that the us language pack is installed .
[21:12] <ionte_> Bashing-om: ok, i'll try
[21:12] <rinpoo> wow even windows can do that kind of search....
[21:13] <rinpoo> can find anything in linux
[21:14] <Bashing-om> ionte_: One can also set the keyboard layotr switching to a hot key combo if you desire not to use the task bar .
[21:14] <Raku> I'm having issues getting the background in lightdm to change, it seems to have to do with having my theme set to numix but I can't find what part of it is overriding the background to a static color
[21:14] <ionte_> Bashing-om: i do, see above
[21:14] <ionte_> Bashing-om: but neither works!!
[21:15] <ner0x> Is there a way to set your keyboard backlights to off on default instead of having to turn them down on every boot?
[21:16] <skypce> how can i execute a script before close all aplications before logout?
[21:16] <skypce> ner0x, did you try in BIOS?
[21:17] <ner0x> skypce: I did not. I'll check that out. Thanks.
[21:18] <skypce> you are welcome :)
[21:18] <JmZ> any idea what'd cause `host` to resolve VPN hostnames but pinging them doesn't? (`Host xyz not found`)
[21:19] <JmZ> (and the IP `host` displays is reachable)
[21:19] <Bashing-om> ionte_: See: http://madduck.net/docs/extending-xkb/ . Maybe ??
[21:22] <ubuntu_kid> newbie
[21:23] <rinpoo> found recoll
[21:23] <NoCode> What's a good terminal internet brower?
[21:23] <NoCode> (in a tty)
[21:24] <k1l_> NoCode: links, lynx, elinks,....
[21:24] <genii> surfraw...
[21:25] <k1l_> noor w3m
[21:25] <k1l_> * NoCode
[21:25] <Madhumper69> my hd 2000 graphics drivers in ubuntu dont seem to work and i cant find any drivers anywhere? i cant get resolution 1920 . maybe this helps? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323486/
[21:25] <genii> NoCode: I like links2, actually
[21:26] <NoCode> Installed links, maybe I'll try links2.
[21:26] <Bashing-om> ionte_: ' setxkbmap -option grp:ctrl_shift_toggle "us,se" . Where the hot key is set to ctl+shift . If this works in trminal one can add the command to the startup file .
[21:26] <Madhumper69> my hd 2000 graphics drivers in ubuntu dont seem to work and i cant find any drivers anywhere? i cant get resolution 1920 . maybe this helps? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323486/           and          http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323576/  thanks
[21:26] <NoCode> Trying to get my display manager to work, so I will Google. Unless someone wants to suggest something. :P
[21:31] <daftykins> Madhumper69: the intel drivers are in the kernel, so you shouldn't need any.
[21:32] <daftykins> Madhumper69: VESA is being used in place of intel, i wonder if the cruft you've added to the kernel boot parameters - "drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug" are responsible
[21:33] <ionte_> Bashing-om: tried it. had english layout. pressed ctrl+shift, got swedish layout. pressed ctrl+shift again, still swedish layout. can't get back to english layout. tried caps lock (which i had configured before), same result. the keyboard applet show that english keyboard is selected though obviously swedish is active. selecting swedish in the keyboard applet changes nothing. neither does selecting english
[21:33] <ionte_> this is soooo broken...
[21:34] <Bashing-om> ionte_: Ouch ! that is so unexpected .. sounds now like above my pay grade .
[21:35] <Madhumper69> im not sure
[21:35] <Madhumper69> how would i go about seeing if that is causing the issue, its a fresh install
[21:36] <nacc> Madhumper69: a fresh install woulnd't have any extra parameters to the kernel in grub
[21:36] <Madhumper69> from those pastebins, doesnt seem like the gfx card is installed though eh?
[21:37] <Madhumper69> does *-display UNCLAIMED  mean drivers not installed?
[21:37] <Bashing-om> Madhumper69: Intel module is loaded ' sudo lshw -C display '? What is listd in the configuration line ?
[21:38] <ionte_> Bashing-om: yes, and the worst thing is that it's the same on new installation on multiple computer of the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS!!
[21:38] <kki> hi again, the reinstall the network-manager not solved the issue, manually added fix ip still not working. No eth0 connection. I' m still open for ideas
[21:39] <Madhumper69> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323631/
[21:40] <Madhumper69> what do you mean what is listed in the configuration line of xorg.conf?
[21:42] <Bashing-om> ionte_: Hpw about : setxkbmap -layout "us,se" -option "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"
[21:44] <Raku> I'm having issues getting the background in lightdm to change, it seems to have to do with having my theme in lightdm set to numix but I can't find what part of the numix theme files are overriding the background to a static color instead of the background image I specify
[21:44] <Bashing-om> Madhumper69: Your surmise of no driver (module) loaded is confirmed that in the 'lshw' output no driver is listed .
[21:44] <Madhumper69> ok thanks, how do i force the driver?
[21:45] <daftykins> i don't think you even have it installed
[21:45] <genii> Raku: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Changing_the_Wallpaper
[21:46] <daftykins> Madhumper69: again - you've added stuff to the kernel boot parameters, it doesn't look like a clean install to me
[21:46] <Bashing-om> Madhumper69: Need more info befor I can answer that one .. any hints in the log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log as to what is not taking place ?
[21:47] <daftykins> Madhumper69: check xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed
[21:47] <Madhumper69> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323486/ this is the xorg.o.log file
[21:47] <Madhumper69> thanks dafty will do
[21:48] <Bashing-om> Madhumper69: reading .
[21:48] <nacc> Madhumper69: also, what does "doesn't seem to work" mean for you?
[21:49] <Madhumper69> means that my display drivers are not installed and i get 1440x resolution and not 1920
[21:49] <Madhumper69> ?
[21:49] <nacc> Madhumper69: did you try changing the resolution?
[21:49] <daftykins> nacc: the log will show that such a suggestion is moot
[21:49] <daftykins> VESA driver is in use.
[21:49] <nacc> daftykins: ah good point
[21:50] <Madhumper69> dafty i tried what u have suggested and i get an error about dependencies http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323696/
[21:50] <Madhumper69> i tried changing the resolutions but i never get it to work in the xorg.conf
[21:51] <nacc> Madhumper69: what version of ubuntu is this? and did you run `apt-get update` first?
[21:51] <Madhumper69> yeah
[21:51] <Madhumper69> 14.04lts
[21:52] <Bashing-om> Madhumper69: No attempt is even made to look for an intel driver. I am with daftykins .. what is the purpose of those boot line parameters ?
[21:52] <ionte_> i've had it. ubuntu finally lost me due to crazy keyboard troubles. i should be coding, not try to get keyboard layout switching to work ... :( debian, here i come...
[21:52] <daftykins> Madhumper69: i don't think this was a normal desktop install - can you confirm?
[21:52] <Madhumper69> what bootline parameters... im little new to ubuntu.
[21:53] <Madhumper69> i installed from usb and then installed gnome
[21:53] <daftykins> Madhumper69: i stated them earlier, from the xorg log - you are passing "drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug"
[21:53] <Madhumper69> i believe it was desktop cause i didnt download server ver.
[21:53] <Bashing-om> Madhumper69: " root=UUID=c8bc1cf2-af72-4db7-9615-acb1ee383933 ro drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug " for sure non-standard !
[21:53] <daftykins> Madhumper69: try a "sudo apt update && sudo apt install xserver-xorg-core xorg-video-abi-15 xserver-xorg-video-intel"
[21:54] <shafox> I am trying to install Lighthouse and the doc says to do this Typically you'll want to map a hotkey to run,  https://github.com/emgram769/lighthouse WHere can I learn more ?
[21:55] <Madhumper69> dafty i get errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/15323725/
[21:55] <Madhumper69> how do i get rid of that bashing?
[21:55] <daftykins> Madhumper69: stop asking two people in parallel.
[21:55] <daftykins> ok your install looks to be a total mess
[21:56] <daftykins> whatever you did, you did it wrong
[21:56] <nacc> Madhumper69: what did you mean, you 'installed gnome'?
[21:56] <Madhumper69> yeah, im nore sure what happened this happend recently with dependencies
[21:57] <Madhumper69> anyway to fix that without reinstalling?
[21:57] <daftykins> no you just told us it's a normal fresh install
[21:57] <krobzaur> Hello all, I just tried to modify my xorg.conf file by adding another screen and now I can't log into my account. Is there any way I can roll back this config so I can log in again?
[21:57] <Madhumper69> i installed 4 days ago and had that problem from the biggining
[21:57] <daftykins> well, someone is welcome to try and help you pick up the pieces... but i personally would just start again.
[21:57] <Madhumper69> i think i broke it by trying to fix it :S
[21:57] <daftykins> yeah, sounds likely.
[21:57] <daftykins> you've hosed your package sources i suspect
[21:57] <nicomachus> krobzaur: nothing in the xorg.conf that you can alter should make you unable to log in.
[21:58] <Madhumper69> anyway to purge and reinstall taht?
[21:58] <krobzaur> Well, unable to log into my desktop/graphical environment
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> krobzaur  first, rename xorg.conf to xorg;conf.bak
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> krobzaur  first, rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak
[21:58] <krobzaur> I can log into the text consoles on tty1 and whatnot
[21:58] <daftykins> Madhumper69: start again.
[21:58] <krobzaur> I tried that, but I'll give it another go
[21:59] <Madhumper69> i put so much work into setting up everything else :S
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> krobzaur  then restart to be sure
[21:59] <Bashing-om> krobzaur: One can (m)ove the control file /etc/X11/xorg.conf from terminal, and IF required generate a fresh one .
[21:59] <daftykins> Madhumper69: you shouldn't have gone any further on seeing package management was hosed.
[21:59] <daftykins> Madhumper69: also, i would not install from the ISO you chose
[21:59] <Madhumper69> im new to ubuntu i learned alot in last few weeks
[22:00] <Madhumper69> i wonder what i did wrong so i dont do it agian
[22:00] <krobzaur> ALright we'll see if this works!
[22:01] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | Madhumper69 1st step always !
[22:02] <Madhumper69> i downloaded it from ubuntu website, has to be fine
[22:02] <Madhumper69> must be something that took over the kernel?
[22:02] <nicomachus> Madhumper69: not a safe assumption.
[22:02] <daftykins> no, don't jump to conclusions
[22:02] <nicomachus> https://thehackernews.com/2016/02/linux-mint-hack.html
[22:02] <Madhumper69> hmm
[22:03] <Madhumper69> you guys are above my pay grade lol :)
[22:03] <nicomachus> unfortunately no one here gets paid.
[22:03] <Madhumper69> being funny i know its all opensource lol
[22:04] <Madhumper69> well i appriciate all the help i really do, i guess im SOL eh
[22:04] <nicomachus> no, you can reinstall like daftykins said and start fresh.
[22:04] <Madhumper69> yeah
[22:04] <Madhumper69> im going to install 15.10
[22:04] <nicomachus> better to stick with 14.04 until the next LTS comes out.
[22:05] <bprompt> Madhumper69:    keep in mind that reinstalling takes just about 30mins or less on an SSD, on an ssd would be around 5mins
[22:05] <Madhumper69> yeah but i have alot of configuration stuff to do
[22:05] <Madhumper69> apache plex transmission server
[22:05] <daftykins> i'd suggest 14.04.4
[22:05] <daftykins> all those are a one-liner
[22:05] <Madhumper69> not for a noob
[22:05] <bprompt> Madhumper69:      backup your $HOME, that's where all configs are
[22:05] <Madhumper69> lol
[22:05] <nicomachus> bprompt++
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> and in /etc/
[22:06] <Madhumper69> will that tint my new installation if its messed up to begin with?
[22:06] <bprompt> well.. yes /etc is another spot, not so much as ~ though, but important, I back that up as well
[22:07] <bprompt> Madhumper69:   will what again?
[22:07] <Madhumper69> well apperently i screwed up soemthing pretty bad
[22:07] <bprompt> and I gather you meant taint
[22:07] <Madhumper69> yeah im french my english is not the best :P
[22:07] <new0> how can i optimize my ubuntu 14.04 to work with 2ram and a swap file? any info u may need i can supply
[22:07] <nicomachus> new0: 2ram? you mean 2 GB of RAM?
[22:08] <new0> nicomachus, yes
[22:08] <nicomachus> new0: are you using Unity or what? for your desktop environment?
[22:08] <new0> it's old TOSHIBA SateliiteL455D
[22:08] <snowgoggles> Madhumper69: I would recommend using a system restore app like timeshift and create system snapshots before messing with configs if not familiar with what you're changing
[22:08] <new0> nicomachus, Unity
[22:08] <Madhumper69> is that like clonezilla or better?
[22:09] <new0> nicomachus, and i am not sure how to check how much ram it's taking and CPU time
[22:09] <Madhumper69> i was thinking of that too, as im at high risk to break things being a noob
[22:09] <nicomachus> new0: you may fair better with something more lightweight like lxde or xfce
[22:09] <nicomachus> new0: in the Dash you'll find "System Monitor"
[22:09] <snowgoggles> timeshift you can install on your running distro and backs up the system files but doesn't touch your user data by default
[22:10] <new0> nicomachus, sure. as i understand and remember i can use light DM
[22:10] <Madhumper69> good to know, thanks so much i have to run ...
[22:10] <snowgoggles> Madhumper69: but create a seperate small partition for the snapshots...ie. 30GB partition for timeshift snapshots
[22:10] <krobzaur> sweet that worked thanks guys!
[22:11] <nicomachus> new0: lightDM is what ubuntu uses as the login screen. lxde and xfce are alternatives to Unity, which is your desktop environment. Unity is a 3D environment, which can take more RAM and CPU power to render.
[22:11] <new0> nicomachus, good. System Monitor. good info
[22:11] <krobzaur> MonkeyDust: Bashing-om thanks!
[22:11] <new0> nicomachus, is Unity process called "compiz"?
[22:12] <nicomachus> new0: lxde will basically turn your Ubuntu in Lubuntu, whereas xfce will turn it into Xubuntu. Both are more lightweight versions of Unity.
[22:12] <nicomachus> new0: Unity uses compiz, yes.
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> new0  unity is a compiz plugin for gnome3
[22:13] <new0> MonkeyDust, nicomachus, tnx. so which process do i need to look into in order to see the ram Unity takes?
[22:14] <new0> nicomachus, MonkeyDust, at the moment the compiz take 97.9M
[22:14] <mljmac> new0: sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback, then logout and at the login you can choose Gnome Compiz
[22:14] <nicomachus> mljmac: that's not what he is wanting to do.
[22:14] <new0> mljmac, mmm can u explain what r those?
[22:15] <new0> nicomachus, MonkeyDust, anyhow, how would to install lxde or ...?
[22:15] <Bashing-om> krobzaur: :)
[22:15] <bprompt> new0:     use LXDE, that should help, but I'd rather suggest you're better off getting at least an SSD
[22:16] <nicomachus> bprompt: having an SSD vs. HDD isn't going to make much difference when it comes to 2gb of RAM and Unity...
[22:16] <nicomachus> new0: see here: http://www.howtogeek.com/107368/how-to-install-the-lightweight-lxde-desktop-on-ubuntu/
[22:16] <new0> bprompt, sure. there is a lot of things to do on this laptop. so... i can just buy new one :) it's tmp for now until..
[22:16] <daftykins> it'd make the inevitable swapping speedier :)
[22:16] <new0> nicomachus, i thought it's something with apt-get
[22:16] <nicomachus> new0: yea, apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[22:16] <new0> daftykins, ho yes. i did think of that actually
[22:17] <nicomachus> new0: that article explains it, and then explains how to switch to it.
[22:17] <daftykins> but yeah unity on 2GB... noooo
[22:17] <bprompt> nicomachus:    cpu usage wise, it will not, I/O wise, it makes a huge difference, and ram swapping benefits from that greatly, as well as regular OS processes and apps
[22:17] <new0> nicomachus, hoo, so that cmd is what will be on the tutorial?
[22:17] <nicomachus> new0: yes, it's all there.
[22:17] <new0> daftykins, :D
[22:18] <new0> nicomachus, tnx :)
[22:18] <nicomachus> bprompt: that's true, but comparing the cost of getting an SSD for >$100 and then trying to get it into a laptop that may not have a slot, opposed to using a free desktop env that's more lightweight... I'll suggest lxde over an SSD every time.
[22:18] <mljmac> new0: sudo apt-get install lxde
[22:20] <bprompt> nicomachus:    hmm as matter of hardware upgrade, assuming this is an old Sata2 2gb ddr2 laptop, ssd is the way to go, >$100?   not quite, it has gone down in price, you can get say.... a 64gbs sataII SSD from samsung or others, for $50 or thereabouts, you can get some 128gbs ones for less than $100 these days
[22:21] <new0> nicomachus, mljmac, daftykins, btw i would think to buy new 4Gram on future time
[22:21] <daftykins> new0: depends on the specific machine, 8GB is a minimum today. (i'd even say 16GB really)
[22:22] <daftykins> that's for DDR3 and 4 though really
[22:23] <new0> daftykins, can't agree with u more. but for new PC i would 32G the max i can for it. but this old laptop i have 2 options:
[22:23] <Bashing-om> new0: daftykins "  8GB is a minimum today. (i'd even say 16GB really) " While we are dreaming, 8 core AMD processor .
[22:24] <new0> daftykins, 1: get new SSD for my OLD (bug good) pc, and take the old SSD to swap on this laptop as i need to buy new one for it anyway. 2) get another 4G
[22:24] <new0> Bashing-om, why u queting?
[22:25] <new0> daftykins, and yes like nicomachus meantion with the link it give me "It’s even lighter than Xubuntu’s XFCE."
[22:25] <daftykins> well, hardware talk isn't quite on topic here - but sure, whatever goes - though I can't confirm those ideas being good without knowing the systems
[22:26] <Bashing-om> new0: Keeping in context, and where the quote came from .. my little addendum for my wish list .
[22:26] <Raku> genii, I've edited that already and it's getting overwritten by something in the numix theme http://puu.sh/nyuSU/59e3a235be.png
[22:26] <new0> daftykins, of course! this is why i said at start of topic.. any Q about my HW can be supply by me
[22:27] <daftykins> new0: yeah but it's not for this channel
[22:27] <fantasai_> Hi! Anyone have an idea why git would fail to authenticate against GitHub on 16.04 even though it works just fine under 12.04?
[22:28] <new0> daftykins, mm, i doubt that. because as i will list my HW here (if someone will ask or i needed to) then it might help with optimization
[22:28] <new0> daftykins, but for now i will stick with LXDE
[22:28] <daftykins> new0: no i'm telling you 100% that it's off topic for this channel :)
[22:28] <daftykins> i'm leaving now, i won't see any further messages
[22:28] <fantasai> (I have both systems installed on separate partitions, sharing a /home partition. Booting into 14.04 works, booting into 16.04 doesn't.)
[22:28] <fantasai> Sorry, meant s/12.04/14.04/
[22:29] <fantasai> I think.
[22:30] <snowgoggles> fantasai: if sharing a home partition perhaps there is a distro version specific config file causing the issue
[22:30] <mljmac> I got lxde now in 14.04 lts
[22:30] <fantasai> snowgoggles: In the home directory?
[22:31] <fantasai> snowgoggles: Seems pretty unlikely
[22:31] <le_pig> fantasai: Are you using an SSH key for GitHub auth?  If so, did you copy your key?
[22:31] <fantasai> le_pig: Yes, using SSH. Didn't copy the key: the entire /home partition is shared, so anything within it is identical.
[22:32] <fantasai> le_pig: Only system files aren't shared between the two environments -- stuff outside /home.
[22:33] <new0> i just did install lubuntu-desktop and it's saying after this operation, i will take 250M space. isn't that too much havy? or not realy?
[22:34] <fantasai> new0: lubuntu-desktop probably includes a lot of dependencies, since it's effectively a bundle of lots of software... 250M doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
[22:34] <fantasai> new0: Though I don't know what differs between your current environment and that
[22:35] <mljmac> new0: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS took 6.3 GIG
[22:35] <fantasai> le_pig: The key is id_dsa
[22:35] <new0> fantasai, ok. yes it's because the customizer and dependencies. it's also have vanila LXDE with install lxde. should this be done?
[22:35] <new0> mljmac, perhaps
[22:36] <fantasai> new0: Not sure what you're asking... If you just want lxde, then probably just install lxde. IIRC desktop packages include lots of tools like settings manager, terminal, text editor, word processor, etc. At least, that's what I remember.
[22:36] <HanKtheRobot4> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/798414
[22:37] <HanKtheRobot4> this bug still exists in 15.10
[22:37] <fantasai> le_pig: I know stuff changed in openssl, did Ubuntu 16.04 drop support for id_dsa keys?
[22:37] <HanKtheRobot4> oh wait nvm...seems that it might have been picked up and squashed again. Thanks!
[22:39] <new0> fantasai, the lxde take half the packages to be installed and 46.4M only. is that mean i can just install the lxde and then if something else missing/needed than i will do install lubuntu-desktop too?
[22:39] <fantasai> new0: Yeah, sure, give it a shot. :)
[22:39] <new0> fantasai, :) ok
[22:39] <fantasai> new0: lxde package is a subset of lxde-desktop
[22:39] <Raku> genii, Got any other ideas?
[22:39] <le_pig> fantasai: I'm not sure, but you're likely looking at two different versions of openssl libs between 12.04 and 14.04.  Either way, I assumed it was best practice to use RSA 2048 and up at this point.  Maybe it's time to go with something a bit stronger, no? :)
[22:40] <new0> fantasai, ok. i guess if i have tools installed in Unity, they will be on lxde too! right?
[22:40] <new0> fantasai, like gedit, sublime text, etc...
[22:40] <fantasai> new0: They will remain installed, yes, unless you uninstall Unity
[22:41] <genii> Raku: I'm not familiar with numix, so nothing immediately comes to mind, sorry.
[22:41] <fantasai> le_pig: Yeah, probably. I'd have to get the sysadmins to change my keys then. :p Let me try that, hopefully it works......
[22:42] <Raku> It's something in the actual theme, if I change it to  greybird for example http://puu.sh/nyvX1/b5c5b8488c.png the background displays fine
[22:43] <le_pig> fantasai: Looks like DSA will be deprecated with the 7.0 release of openssh: http://www.openssh.com/legacy.html
[22:43] <Mike> Hi ist hier jemand der deutch spricht?
[22:43] <nicomachus> !de | Mike
[22:44] <Mike> Ok thanks:-)
[22:46] <new0> nicomachus, so..... i guess to have to do LogOutIn for LXDE
[22:47] <fantasai> le_pig: Thanks :)
[22:47] <nicomachus> new0: yes, and while logged out you have to click on the little Ubuntu logo next to your username, and then select LXDE from the dropdown menu. Then log in. It should keep LXDE as default from then on.
[22:47] <fantasai> le_pig: Seems to be working now.
[22:47] <new0> btw, if i use different DM is it taking less memory for each app it's running?
[22:47] <le_pig> fantasai: Whatever you did, I'm glad it's working now. :)
[22:47] <new0> nicomachus, nice tnx
[22:48] <new0> brb
[22:48] <denni> rt!
[22:48] <fantasai> le_pig: Switched to rsa like you said :)
[22:48] <fantasai> now I just need to backup this key before I get myself into trouble...
[22:51] <new0> nicomachus, ?
[22:52] <new0> wow, it think that's really fast Environment :) :D
[22:52] <new0> finally
[22:52] <nicomachus> good.
[22:52] <new0> anyway i do have more issues now hope u and u all will help :)
[22:53] <new0> why my VGA card is my primary screen and not my build-in laptop screen?
[22:55] <new0> ?
[22:56] <fantasai> new0: No idea, but xrandr might be able to help you figure out what's going on.
[22:56] <fantasai> new0: It lists all the active windows and lets you configure them
[22:57] <fantasai> new0: I'm afraid I don't use lxde, so not sure how to do that graphically.
[22:57] <new0> fantasai, who is xrandr?
[22:57] <fantasai> new0: Its a console command. A bit hard to use, but can be useful for figuring out what's going on :)
[22:57] <monkey_> Hi all. Im using Ubuntu 5.10 with Cinnamon. And for some reason i have two file browsers. Both very similar. But one has a menu and more functionality. But the other one seems to be the default. Any ideas how i remove it?
[22:58] <new0> fantasai, do u know how to terminaly doing it?
[22:58] <fantasai> new0: Open a terminal and type 'xrandr'. It should print out the various monitors and their output modes
[22:59] <fantasai> new0: I'm sure there's a better way to do this... maybe try looking for the Display configuration screen in lxde's settings manager? :)
[22:59] <deehuck> Hello! My system seems to be using a lot more swap space than it should. For example, at the moment I'm using ~500MB of RAM and ~600MB of swap. From what I understand swap is a lot slower than RAM so I would obviously prefer my system to use the RAM as much as possible. Ubuntu 15.10
[23:00] <monkey_> I essentially have 2 versions of nemo
[23:00] <monkey_> deehuck, Swap will only get used when your ram is full afaik
[23:00] <new0> fantasai, great. xrandr really display the info. how to change the settings?
[23:01] <Raku> genii, I fixed it, the gtk-greeter-tehem.css was missing a line in it
[23:01] <deehuck> monkey_, well I have 4GB of RAM installed so it is definitely not full :/
[23:01] <monkey_> deehuck, You should have the same size swap as you do ram
[23:01] <fantasai> new0: Um. Something like xrander --output VGA1 --mode 1400x900 ? There should be a manual somewhere...
[23:01] <HanKtheRobot4> Ubuntu Borg is a Star Trek nerd at IBM
[23:01] <HanKtheRobot4> hehe
[23:01] <fantasai> new0: But really there should be an easier way to do it :)
[23:01] <HanKtheRobot4> he went to sleep on Saturday
[23:01] <HanKtheRobot4> so he is not a real borg
[23:01] <fantasai> new0: I'm just on a weird setup and don't have one...
[23:01] <deehuck> monkey_, do you think if I made the swap partition bigger than the RAM the kernel may try to prioritize the larger amount?
[23:02] <new0> fantasai, ok
[23:02] <genii> Raku: Glad to know the solution for future sufferers of the same problem.
[23:02] <fantasai> new0: xrander --help will list all the possible commands
[23:02] <daftykins> deehuck: read up on vm.swapiness
[23:02] <monkey_> deehuck, No. It will always use the ram first
[23:02] <monkey_> deehuck, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[23:02] <fantasai> new0: You'll probably want xrander --output LVDSORWHATEVERTHESCREENISCALLED --somethingelse
[23:03] <RavenholmDX> Hey, any wget experts around?
[23:03] <Raku> genii, The general section from here https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/blob/master/gtk-3.0/apps/lightdm-gtk-greeter.css was the specific part missing
[23:03] <fantasai> new0: Sorry I don't know lxde :(
[23:03] <new0> fantasai, mmm isn't thta xrander is ubuntu command and not lxde?
[23:03] <fantasai> new0: But it might solve your immediate problem until you figure it out :)
[23:04] <fantasai> It's an X windows command.
[23:04] <fantasai> should work on all desktop systems
[23:04] <krobzaur> Hello all! Question about multi monitor setups. How would I "decouple" my monitors, so I could move between desktops on each monitor independently
[23:05] <rolic> Hi
[23:05] <Raku> I'm also having a problem with a kernel module I compiled, I have it in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/extra but it does not get loaded, the original one takes priority
[23:06] <krobzaur> I've looked around on the internet but I'm a little wary about messing with my configs because I just tried a second ago and messed up my ability to log in to my graphical desktop environment
[23:06] <new0> fantasai, ok. tnx
[23:07] <deehuck> monkey_, after reading that it seems I made my swap space too large causing it to act erratically. thanks for the pointers :D
[23:07] <new0> anyone here know to do change monitor primary screen with xrandr or any other cmd?
[23:08] <new0> this LXDE is really fast than Unity i usage so it would be very much helpfull
[23:08] <monkey_> new0, Most DE's are faster than Unity
[23:09] <ProfInc> Can anyone help me?  I am trying to install an apk app on a amazon fire stick and I have reached the point where I have connected the fire stick to the computer.  But when I list the devices, it says there is more than one connected and when I try to install the apk, it says this...
[23:09] <ProfInc> error: more than one device and emulator
[23:09] <ProfInc> - waiting for device -
[23:09] <new0> fantasai, mmmm i think that was the customizer all about isn't it? it's just tools of setting instead of vanilla LXDE without customization. and all those tools 250M total, i don't think it's been loading into the memory when boot/loggedIn! right?
[23:09] <new0> monkey_, mmm, and i really need that speed
[23:10] <ProfInc> How do I go about disabling the other device that shows up?
[23:10] <new0> monkey_, it's 2G :)
[23:10] <ProfInc> if anyone can help me please PM me
[23:11] <new0> monkey_, would u know how to configure primary screen? with xrandr or any terminal cmd?
[23:11] <monkey_> new0, check out cinnamon. Its just as fast as LXDE from my experience.
[23:11] <monkey_> new0, No, not used it
[23:11] <new0> monkey_, ok. tnx
[23:14] <ProfInc> can someone help me with installing an app on to a amazon firestick?
[23:15] <yonatan> what's the best way to implement a service where people email stuff and i reply with some text (say generated by a python script run on their email)? any pointers?
[23:16] <fantasai> new0: I have no idea what lxde uses as a display settings editor.
[23:16] <fantasai> new0: If you can find out, you can probably fix it
[23:17] <bluefive> Does TOR use AES?
[23:17] <daftykins> bluefive: not really relevant here, find their channel perhaps
[23:17] <taffy> disrespectful
[23:17] <taffy> youre not relevent here with that stink bret
[23:18] <daftykins> !ops | taffy PM abuse
[23:18] <bluefive> I found the TOR network: irc.oftc.net.
[23:22] <giminy> stupid question: is there an official list of all ubuntu package signing keys someplace?
[23:23] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/gquhw5Vq
[23:23] <Bray90820> Is aaron the owner and mythtv the group or the other way around?
[23:24] <dax> Bray90820: aaron's the owner, mythtv's the group
[23:24] <Bray90820> what's the difference between an owner and a group?
[23:25] <new0> monkey_, great idea. now i using gnome (now sure how it was installed) but this is fast
[23:25] <drkfdr> doh... those times you forget to ask NTP access on a firewalled site...
[23:26] <new0> also pretty nice too
[23:26] <monkey_> bah, gnome is awful
[23:26] <new0> monkey_, what do u use/
[23:26] <new0> ?
[23:26] <monkey_> Cinnamon
[23:26]  * drkfdr installed ntp server and syncs via openvpn instead ;P
[23:26] <new0> monkey_, is it good for old laptop with 2G too?
[23:27] <monkey_> Like i said earlier, I find it runs just as quick as LXDE and Gnome, faster if anything
[23:27] <monkey_> And much nicer than both
[23:27] <new0> monkey_, mm. good to know.
[23:28] <new0> monkey_, because i think i should probably first use a DE/DM before running into terminal
[23:28] <new0> now, what it would be best for FTP client?
[23:29] <nicolasb> hello :) i am super sorry in advance, i know that much has been written online about this topic but i was unable to find an appropriate answer... i tried many things that i can list, but to no avail. my problem is : grub rescue. the infamous. if anyone ever did the mistake of formatting a linux partition, i would be more than happy to hear about their recovering experience. i spotted a few threads on askubuntu wih the same pro
[23:29] <nicolasb> blem but none of the proposed solutions works/are doable for me...
[23:29] <monkey_> new0, Filezilla
[23:30] <new0> monkey_, tnx
[23:30] <caden> you might be able to hold ESC on bootup and it might work
[23:30] <caden> or try to get into ur pc's bios
[23:31] <nicolasb> escape doesnt work :( i went into bios and did all the possible configurations ( up to some point ) and none worked
[23:31] <nicolasb> but thanks though :)
[23:31] <caden> is ur computer a laptop or desktop
[23:31] <new0> monkey_, nice. i see Nautilus too. but i will try FileZilla latter.
[23:31] <new0> monkey_, mmm sudo apt-get install filezilla?
[23:31] <nicolasb> laptop
[23:32] <caden> take out your battery, and hold the power button for 20 seconds with the battery out. Put the battery back in and try again
[23:32] <caden> fixed mine
[23:32] <monkey_> new0, Check the UBuntu software centre
[23:33] <new0> monkey_, tnx
[23:33] <new0> monkey_, hhmm, i see i already have it installed :)
[23:33] <new0> i guess i forgot about it.
[23:33] <new0> tnx all
[23:34] <nicolasb> still grub rescue. i mean, i formatted the linux partition, so my only hope was to boot from live usb key, but it is unable to do so...
[23:34] <nicolasb> apparently that my second hope is to boot into windows, but i am also unable to do so.
[23:34] <caden> Wait, did you actually do what I just said? Just so I know if it worked.
[23:34] <snowgoggles> new0:  and i was just starting to appreciate your terminal usage with apt-get
[23:34] <nicolasb> yes i di
[23:34] <nicolasb> d
[23:35] <caden> well, i'm stumped. sorry
[23:35] <caden> maybe try to make an ubuntu install disc, booting from it and completely erasing the linux partition
[23:36] <nicolasb> ahah it's ok - i've been trying all the combinations of "ls (hdx,y)" in grub rescue but it is stuck at insmod normal
[23:37] <new0> snowgoggles, "and i was just....." meaning sarcasm?
[23:37] <nicolasb> your solution ( to make an ubuntu install disc) is what i originally had in mind, but the pc doesn't boot from the key when plugged in
[23:37] <caden> well, my problems never went that far, the battery trick worked for me
[23:38] <snowgoggles> new0:  not all ....you'll learn linux faster doing things like installing software through the terminal and familiar with apt tools
[23:38] <giminy> anybody running 12.04 that can tell me what signing keys are used for signing packages in that distro?
[23:40] <snowgoggles> new0:  for instance search your repo cache for packages...checking install state....package repo source...so on
[23:40] <new0> snowgoggles, sure. can't agree more. one day i might not use any GUI and really become master of it and save more CPU/ram compsamtion
[23:41] <new0> snowgoggles, yep
[23:41] <new0> snowgoggles, on the end i might write some code my self to some DM
[23:41] <snowgoggles> new0:  start updating your repo cache through terminal instead of depending on a gui like soft center
[23:42] <new0> snowgoggles, actually i barely even touch soft center
[23:42] <snowgoggles> just enter sudo apt-get update to refresh your repo package sources...and if there's issues it will tell you...software center doess'nt always explain the issue in enough detail
[23:43] <new0> snowgoggles, mm. yes. i do use update and autoclean once
[23:44] <ubuntu> hi
[23:44] <Guest6535> hi
[23:44] <new0> snowgoggles, btw. it's already the 5th/6th time that i came back and forward to linux/ubuntu and all the time something like not knowing the system too good like Win7 got me to stop
[23:45] <new0> snowgoggles, this time i feel more knowing it and start to get it/learn it very fast
[23:45] <Guest6535> are there any linux mp3 players that can handle 100,000+ songs?
[23:45] <daftykins> what do you mean by Linux player?
[23:46] <Guest6535> software
[23:46] <daftykins> ah ok, my head was stuck in portable devices
[23:46] <genii> So not RokBox then
[23:46] <Guest6535> music player
[23:46] <snowgoggles> new0: you need an incentive to stay with linux / ubuntu
[23:46] <daftykins> gmusicbrowser, banshee, err... plenty more
[23:46] <Guest6535> banshee can handle it?
[23:47] <snowgoggles> new0:  how about free with no ads?
[23:47] <daftykins> maybe, no idea.
[23:47] <Guest6535> i tried clementine but didn't like it
[23:48] <new0> snowgoggles, why? where the ads on Win?
[23:48] <nacc> Guest6535: it sounds like you had an answer already, you just didn't like the answer
[23:48] <Danielh90> Should I use tmux or screen's to handle my minecraft server's?
[23:48] <daftykins> Danielh90: it doesn't matter, use what you want.
[23:48] <new0> snowgoggles, btw Win is for Graphic things Photoshop/games
[23:48] <Guest6535> k thx
[23:48] <Danielh90> daftykins, witch one works better?
[23:49] <new0> snowgoggles, anyway, nice talk :) got to go
[23:49] <daftykins> Danielh90: you tell me
[23:50] <Danielh90> daftykins, tmux I think
[23:50] <daftykins> i don't think you're aware of the difference :) go try them
[23:51] <jvturner> I'm trying to install php7 on a Ubuntu 12.04 box but getting Error: 'main' invalid
[23:51] <daftykins> jvturner: are you married to 12.04? because that sentence is kind of ridiculous
[23:52] <jvturner> daftykins: no I just downloaded a vm that has 12.04 and Drupal 8 working as I needed it to and working with vagrant, so it saves me time, but I wanted to upgrade for PHP7
[23:53] <jvturner> if you think I can solve the issue by upgrading to Ubuntu 14.x, I will try it
[23:53] <daftykins> ah ok so a case of "user makes task more complicated for self"
[23:53] <daftykins> no that won't help either
[23:53] <daftykins> not even sure 16.04 is going to 7...
[23:54] <daftykins> apparently it might be!
[23:55] <diddledan> php7 is available in xenial under the package name php7.0