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shadeslayeryofel: yw00:26
ahoneybunsgclark, still kicking?00:40
sgclarkI am still alive yes00:40
ahoneybunI meant online but that part is better :)00:41
sgclarklol00:41
ahoneybunI'm going to update my 16.04 and try to use PIM00:41
ahoneybunthough I don't use kolab00:41
sgclarkok00:41
ahoneybunam I still of use?00:42
sgclarkit is definately better. I did have a random crash while I slept and others have reported same, not sure problem ours or upstream. running gdb has not given me any clues.00:42
ahoneybunthat's better then a week ago lol00:43
sgclarkahoneybun: I am not sure if apps got uplaoded yet. but testing is always good, we can always report upstream or fix things if it is us.00:43
sgclarkyeah it was non functional a week ago, so certainly improvement00:44
ahoneybunthank you again for the work00:44
sgclarkI am quite sure mine is network related. no network seems to bugger up akonadi00:44
sgclarknp, was a team effort and some bits of miracle that we got most of this done.00:45
* ahoneybun updates while trying out some cheap bluetooth earphones00:45
ahoneybunlol00:45
ahoneybunnot bad for 13 bucks lol00:45
ahoneybunI have no ppas on right now sgclark 00:46
sgclarkahoneybun: everything going to archive is in kubuntu-ppa/staging-misc 00:47
ahoneybunthat is somewhat tested or 50/50 it will work deal?00:47
sgclarkeveryone except valorie had a positive experience. But she has some crazy coredumps going on with apt, not the packages. -.-00:48
valorieyeah, I still am waiting to upgrade this machine to xenial00:50
valoriebut my experience seems to be the outlier, and it never got to install the packages00:50
ahoneybunoh ok00:57
ahoneybunsgclark, do I need the core kubuntu-ppa? or will just using that one work?00:59
sgclarkahoneybun: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-misc will be enough01:00
ahoneybunok cool01:00
ahoneybuncomcast will love me lol01:01
sgclarkhah. well they hate me01:01
ahoneybunthey love me as I have to pay more based on my usage lol01:01
ahoneybun2 or 3 upcharges01:01
ahoneybunyay 300gb cap01:01
sgclarkI am postivie I am getting throttled01:01
ahoneybunmost likely lol01:02
sgclarkoh good greif , I would be paying thousands in internet fees.01:02
ahoneybunsgclark, is there a paypal or something we can send some extra money someone has around?01:02
ahoneybunI can't really do a monthly thing01:02
sgclarkahoneybun: yes link to my paypal on website footer01:02
sgclarkmy website that is01:02
ahoneybunbut if I have some extra money I'll throw it to your screen01:03
sgclarkif that is what you mean01:03
ahoneybungot it01:03
ahoneybunnext paycheck I'll try to throw some your way01:03
sgclarkaww thankies. can use all I can get. stupid bills.01:04
ahoneybunany laptop lol01:04
ahoneybunyou must have the best if possible01:05
ahoneybunI have that linode server that you used for the mumble01:05
sgclarkrumor has it someone might help me out there. *crosses fingers*01:05
ahoneybun1TB up and 1TB down if that is useful01:05
sgclarkwow nice01:05
* ahoneybun updates PayPal01:06
ahoneybunI use it for a bouncer mostly01:06
ahoneybunproxy while at work01:06
ahoneybunit only has like a 24gb ssd though01:06
ahoneybunand like 1gb ram or something01:06
ahoneybunstill updating01:07
ahoneybunjust let me know if it can be useful for anything01:07
* ahoneybun crosses fingers as well01:08
ahoneybunsgclark, moment of truth rebooting01:16
ahoneybunit booted01:24
ahoneybunthats a start lol01:24
ahoneybunno panels though lol01:26
ahoneybunmm01:27
ahoneybunit did not finish with the updates...01:27
ahoneybunmm I keep getting a black desktop01:48
ahoneybunkrunner works and so does kwn01:48
ahoneybun*kwin01:48
ahoneybunI can't right click on the desktop to make panels01:48
* claydoh has the same symptoms as ahoneybun03:42
sgclarkahoneybun: claydoh: be sure your install was complete. aka sudo apt-get -f install03:54
ahoneybunmm03:55
sgclarkalso if you had any other staging repos it will cause problems, be sure staging-misc is the only ppa you have enabled...03:56
ahoneybun1 thing was not updated but it wont say updated03:56
sgclarkplease remove any other ppas03:56
sgclarkand update again03:56
claydohno other ppas here, for sure.03:57
claydohjake@jake-Latitude-E6420:~$ plasmashell03:57
claydohkscreen: Failed to request backend: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" : "The name org.kde.KScreen was not provided by any .service files"03:57
claydohError found while setting up ShellCorona's KScreen:  "Failed to prepare backend"03:57
ahoneybunmy one ppa was disabled with the full upgrade03:57
sgclarkShellCorona's KScreen? wait what?!?! ok woah. I am afraid I am past the hour of being helpful. I am so sorry. 03:59
sgclarkPlease create bugs and what not. I don't think I will be any help on kscreen error though haha.04:00
ahoneybunmm04:00
ahoneybunputting sudo plasmashell gave me that too04:00
sgclarkwhy on earth would you sudo palsmashell?04:01
sgclarkplasmashell*04:01
ahoneybun?04:01
ahoneybuncuz that did nothing04:01
sgclarklost me.04:01
ahoneybunand now I have more updates?04:01
ahoneybunthe heck04:01
bshahNEVER EVER DO SUDO <<ANY GUI APPLICATION>>!!111!!!one!04:01
ahoneybunand a new kernel?04:02
ahoneybunsudo gparted?04:02
sgclarkikr bshah. <-- please head this warning04:02
sgclarkahoneybun: no need kdesu will trigger04:02
ahoneybunmm04:02
sgclarkthere is absolutely no need to sudo any gui app. ever.04:02
sgclarka terribly bad idea04:03
ahoneybunso much passion about that04:04
sgclarkyes, it is a cause of so many invalid bugs.04:04
claydohvery much passionate, it is the number one casue for Bad Things, imo04:04
sgclarkanyway claydohI think you are lucky winner of bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343844 :( it was fixed, maybe we can get it in in time.04:05
ubottuKDE bug 343844 in core "Kwin makes unconditional access to randr extension in (at least) XRandRScreens::update()" [Crash,Resolved: fixed]04:05
sgclarkclaydoh: ^04:05
ahoneybunI had more updates, applied and rebooting04:06
sgclarkanyway, time for me to go. See you all tomorrow.04:06
ahoneybunnight sgclark 04:06
ahoneybunI can't get any error from plasmashell claydoh 04:07
claydohgnie sgclark04:07
claydohgnite04:07
ahoneybun-f install says nothing04:08
ahoneybunmm04:08
ahoneybunanother day then04:08
claydohill play with lxqt for now lol04:10
soeegood morning :007:51
soee:)07:51
lordievaderGood morning.08:40
MacLeodgood morning09:10
MacLeodwe would like to place the reference to our community kubuntu.ru, have discussed it with valorie, but dunno what kind of description needs09:11
soeehi MacLeod, placed where ?09:15
MacLeodon https://kubuntu.org/community/ i think09:19
soeelordievader: ^09:38
soeeoh sorry, ovidiu-florin ^09:38
valorieMacLeod: welcome to #kubuntu-devel -- I hope you will hang out here when you can09:57
valoriebut now I need to sleep, and won't be in much tomorrow until night10:10
valorieprobably10:10
clivejoI also regard to say that Ive no kscreen, panels or desktop11:08
clivejoregret11:08
clivejowas working fine last night, but not when I booted this morning11:09
mamarleyI am about to try one of my systems. :/11:09
clivejoI have since done a dist-upgrade and only thing was FW 5.18 came from the archive11:10
clivejoIve also rebooted about three times11:10
yofellook into .xsession-errors, that might tell something11:11
* yofel goes fetching lunch, back in 20min11:11
mamarleyYep, no Plasma here either. :(  Checking .xsession-errors...11:12
clivejolots of Connected to "Akonadi" , using protocol version 5211:13
clivejoServer says: "Not Really IMAP server"11:13
clivejolots of "QXcbConnection: XCB error: 9 "11:14
mamarleyyofel: Here is my .xsession-errors: https://paste.kde.org/p1p2ozzvk11:14
clivejomamarley: what GPU?11:15
mamarleyNVIDIA GTX 970 with the blob11:15
clivejoIm Nvidia too11:15
clivejowhere do you get the driver from?11:16
mamarleyCurrently installed is 361.28-0ubuntu1 from the Xenial archive, but that is identical to what is in the GPU Drivers PPA.11:17
clivejomamarley: Im getting simular log entries to you11:18
mamarleyI honestly don't think the GPU has anything to do with it.11:18
clivejokdeinit5 and iBus are standing out#11:19
* mamarley doesn't reboot any of his other systems and hopes Plasma doesn't crash on them.11:19
mamarleyI also get the "kscreen: Failed to request backend: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" : "The name org.kde.KScreen was not provided by any .service files"" and "Error found while setting up ShellCorona's KScreen:  "Failed to prepare backend"".11:21
mamarleyI shall sacrifice my other laptop for testing and see if I can figure out what the offending package is.11:23
clivejoThe only thing I seen updating recent was QT11:26
mamarleyI just rebooted the test laptop with the staging-misc PPA but without any of the KDE updates from the archive and Plasma still works.11:28
clivejomamarley: what does qmake --version say?11:28
clivejoon your test laptop11:28
mamarleyclivejo: The one with broken plasma or the one that I am testing upgrades on now?11:29
yofelshadeslayer: did you ever re-upload libkscreen?11:29
shadeslayeryofel: I did not, do you want me to?11:29
shadeslayerwith the same version?11:29
clivejotesting one11:30
yofelyeah, the version is fine, you'll just need to upload WITH the source11:30
clivejoyofel: is that the problem?11:30
mamarleyclivejo: "qmake: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qmake': No such file or directory".  It isn't installed, haha.11:30
yofelclivejo: should not be if you were using staging-misc11:31
clivejoI was11:31
yofelmamarley: qmake -qt5 --version11:32
clivejobut archive version takes priority11:32
mamarleyclivejo: yofel: "QMake version 3.0"11:32
clivejoMy broken system is "Using Qt version 5.5.1 in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu"11:32
yofelwith our patch set that doesn't tell much anyway11:33
clivejoI dunno, just thought I seen new qt files being installed11:34
clivejowas working great last night :(11:34
mamarleyYeah, there was a Qt update (two days ago, I think), but I rebooted since then and it didn't cause any problems.11:35
mamarleyIt is definitely something from the KF5 stuff from the archive.11:35
clivejoI11:36
clivejo+111:36
mamarleyI also noticed that the i386 nightly git build of Quassel in https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/quassel-git/+packages is FTBFS due to a dependency issue.11:38
mamarley(With KF5 packages)11:38
shadeslayeryofel: reuploaded11:42
yofelthx11:43
clivejoyofel: when you upload to the archive does it rebuild?11:43
yofelthe rdeps? no11:43
clivejoso its the same binary that was in misc copied over?11:44
yofeloh no. The package itself is rebuilt11:44
* yofel assumed that was obvious, sorry ^^11:44
clivejowhere are those build logs?11:44
yofelhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkscreen/4:5.5.4-2~ubuntu111:45
mamarleyThat package does seem to be the culprit.  Installing it breaks plasma on my laptop.  Let me revert and see if that fixes it.11:46
mamarleyyofel: Yep, reverting to libkf5screen6 from the PPA fixes the problem.11:50
yofelhuh, and what did you get from the archive?11:51
mamarleyUm, wait, it wasn't actually from the archive, it was just a different PPA version.11:51
yofelso what do you have installed *right now* ?11:52
mamarleyyofel: The broken version is "4:5.5.4-2~ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa50".11:53
yofelo.O11:53
yofelWHY CAN'T THIS JUST WORK11:54
* yofel makes himself a coffee11:54
yofelmamarley: did libkf5screen-bin get installed?11:59
mamarleyyofel: I can confirm that with all updates except for libkf5screen6 installed (and libkf5screen6 at 4:5.5.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1) that Plasma works.12:00
mamarleyyofel: One sec...12:00
mamarleyyofel: It did not.  Aha!12:00
yofelwhat?!?12:00
yofelthat shouldn't even be possible12:01
* mamarley installs it and reboots.12:01
yofelI don't want to do this anymore /o\12:01
mamarleyNooooooooooo!12:01
mamarleyI love you guys even if my system breaks now and then.  Please don't stop!12:02
yofel Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libqt5core5a (>= 5.5.0), libqt5dbus5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5gui5 (>= 5.0.2) | libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.0.2), libqt5x11extras5 (>= 5.1.0), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libxcb-randr0 (>= 1.3), libxcb1 (>= 1.6)12:02
yofelI don't get this...12:02
yofelshadeslayer: so the thing has libKF5Screen.so.6 libkf5screen6 #MINVER#, libkf5screen-bin12:03
yofelshouldn't that generate an auto-dep for the -bin package in the lib?12:03
shadeslayerit should12:04
shadeslayerdid you upload without symbols12:04
shadeslayerbecause I didn't have it as well12:04
shadeslayerand I realized it's because I do builds sans symbols12:04
shadeslayerI'll brb12:04
mamarleyyofel: Installing the -bin package fixes it.12:04
yofelthat's from the symbols file...12:04
clivejosudo apt-get install libkf5screen-bin fixes it for me12:04
yofelshadeslayer: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/246830027/libkscreen_4%3A5.5.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_4%3A5.5.4-2~ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa50.diff.gz12:05
shadeslayeror well, I'll be back later12:05
yofelk12:05
yofellets see how the archive package turns out12:05
shadeslayeryofel: idk then tbh12:05
clivejonice to have my panels back!12:05
shadeslayerhere's a cute polar bear to help you pass the time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG1NHYFHDk4&feature=youtu.be12:06
yofeldang, 12:06
yofellibkf5screen6_5.5.4-2~ubuntu1_amd64.deb is busted too12:06
yofelXD12:06
shadeslayerfuns12:06
yofelshadeslayer: funs indeed:12:07
yofeloverride_dh_shlibdeps:12:07
yofel        $(overridden_command) $(foreach p,$(shell dh_listpackages -a | egrep ^lib.*[0-9]+$$),-p$p) -- -xlibkf5screen-bin12:07
yofel        $(overridden_command) --remaining-packages12:07
yofelWHAT?!?12:07
bshaho_o12:08
yofelhow, why, wh... I quit12:08
mamarleyPlease don't quit!12:11
yofeldon't worry, I'll fix that in the evening12:12
soeehttp://www.opengeek.net/images/ogeek/omg/omg-animal-face-celebrities-celebrity.jpg12:24
yofel... rofl12:25
mamarleyyofel: Could you guys use an extra person to help with packaging and git merging and stuff?  I have some experience with packaging (though I am definitely not an expert) and I have done more git merges than I can count.  I do have a 0900-1700 job though.12:46
yofelwe sure can. Currently we're... 3? people and I think everyone of us has something else to do during the day12:55
yofeland today's another 90min lunch break on the timesheet *sigh*12:56
sitteryofel, sgclark: shouldn't the kubuntu_unstable branch in plasma/muon be dropped?12:58
sitterI distinctly recall me releasing it outside plasma xD12:58
yofelit has a release?12:59
sitterhm13:13
sitteryofel: yofel: https://apachelog.wordpress.com/2015/11/22/muon-5-5-and-carrots/ look I even did13:13
sitterdid it in munich it appears13:13
soeesitter: does it work with Plasma 5.5 and current Frameworks ?13:16
sitterit builds13:17
sitterit is unsupported, unmaintained and partially broken13:17
soeei think discover is more borken than that :D13:18
sitterperhaps. it is supported and maintained however13:18
BluesKajHi all13:18
soeehiho BluesKaj13:18
BluesKajhis13:18
BluesKajhi soee :-)13:19
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mamarleyyofel: So what can I do to help?13:54
sgclarkmorning13:54
mamarleyHi sgclark!  I would like to join the team and help you people out, if I can.13:55
sgclarkmamarley: we would love help! however right at this moment we are getting stuff in archive so ata holding point with packaging.13:55
mamarleyOK13:55
yofelsgclark: FW and plasma are up, so that's clear to work on13:56
sgclarkcome to the packaging party Friday13:56
yofelwell, plasma needs versioned deps fixed on libkscreen though13:56
sgclarkversioned deps?13:56
sgclarkoh13:56
sgclarkok13:56
sgclarkI can do that13:56
yofellibkscreen now uses shlibs magick, so all rdeps must use the newest version13:56
* sgclark just woke up and needs coffee13:56
sgclarkyeah I get it now :)13:57
mamarleySo I would imagine it would be better to get Frameworks 5.19 packaged before doing Plasma 5.5.5?13:58
sgclarkwouldnt frameworks be feature? not sure we can13:58
mamarleyWouldn't it at least go in the PPA?13:59
yofelyeah it would be13:59
yofelhm, true, that shouldn't be in _xenial_archive13:59
sgclarkat this point stuff that can go in archive > ppa work13:59
mamarleyOK, so Plasma 5.5.5 goes first.14:00
sgclarkgood point yofel14:00
sgclarkyeah and apps after they upload14:00
mamarleyApps 15.12.2 I guess?14:01
yofelok, one last try to generate apps. Should work fine now14:01
sgclarkclivejo has been itching to do plasma so he can run that. We can all fix stuff. Then I will run apps when ready. We can all also fix stuff there.14:01
clivejosgclark: Im not :P14:01
sgclarkyour not?14:02
clivejoI think you'll find its soee has the itch!14:02
clivejosgclark: Im concerned we are falling behind14:02
mamarleyWell, whatever I can do to help just let me know.14:02
sgclarklol we are indeed very very behind. 14:02
clivejobut understand that xenial release is top priotity here14:02
sgclarkThe current process is too much for the amount of manpower we have.14:03
mamarleyBut Plasma 5.5.5 can go in the Xenial release since it is a bugfix, right?14:03
sgclarkcorrect14:03
clivejounfornuiatly most of this stuff is over my head, but Im willing and  trying my best to keep up and understand it14:03
yofelsgclark: does apps have any other pre-depends for the upload other than kolab?14:03
sgclarksame with apps 15.12.214:04
sgclarkyofel: um I want to say yes. one sec14:04
sgclarkyofel: libkgapi14:04
sgclarkI think that is it.14:04
sgclarkclivejo: you are doing super awesome. could not have got this far without you. There is sooo much to know, and I am not even close either.14:06
* clivejo feels a bit stupid over the whole libkolab versions issue14:06
yofelack14:07
yofeldon't - it's just confusing14:07
clivejobut hefee took the time to explain it14:07
sgclarkclivejo: don't worry about it. I have done my fair share of mistakes.14:07
clivejoso, plasma 5.5.5 still hold off or try and stage it?14:08
yofelhold off for now14:08
sgclarkI believe we have green light to stage that14:08
yofelyou could look whether the libkscreen rdeps are correct14:09
sgclarklet me fix libkcreen14:09
yofelotherwise the archive will blow up the same as your system in the morning14:09
clivejoIm not even sure what the problem with kscreen is14:09
clivejoI been reading the conversation14:09
clivejooverride_dh_shlibdeps:14:10
clivejo        $(overridden_command) $(foreach p,$(shell dh_listpackages -a | egrep ^lib.*[0-9]+$$),-p$p) -- -xlibkf5screen-bin14:10
clivejowhere did that come from?14:10
yofellibkscreen rules14:10
yofelbut that's fine14:10
yofelI was misunderstanding something (see #debian-qt-kde for the talk about that)14:11
sgclarkoh. wait. all of plasma needs libkscreen build dep bumped?14:11
yofelyep14:11
sgclarknot actually libkscreen14:11
sgclarkok14:11
sgclarkuh is there an easy way to find what uses it?14:12
clivejohttp://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkscreen/14:13
clivejodownstream?14:13
sgclarkyeah thanks.14:13
yofelsgclark: hm, we might actually be fine14:13
yofelkscreen/git/debian/control:               libkf5screen-dev (>= 4:5.5.1~),14:13
yofelplasma-workspace/git/debian/control:               libkf5screen-dev (>= 4:5.5.1~),14:13
yofelpowerdevil/git/debian/control:               libkf5screen-dev (>= 4:5.5.1~),14:13
* sgclark needs more coffee14:13
yofelso this probably just blew up in the ppa14:13
* clivejo wonders how yofel generated that?14:13
yofellet me check if archive stuff is depwait, then we're fine14:13
yofelclivejo: I still had my cachedir with generated plasma packages, there I did: grep libkf5screen-dev -R * | grep control14:14
clivejoah14:14
sgclarkblew up in the ppa? What happened between a day ago when all was well and now everything blowing up?14:14
yofelsgclark: I uploaded the merge that was never uploaded14:14
sgclarkah ha14:14
sgclarkrght14:14
sgclarkI do remember that now.14:15
yofelafter the upload safety check told me that the ppa package and git don't match14:15
clivejothe merge?14:15
sgclarkyeah it got missed clivejo. you worked on it with yofel14:15
clivejosorry, just trying to follow along14:15
clivejoI did a debian merge on it to try and fix it14:16
yofelamd64 build of kscreen 4:5.5.4-0ubuntu1 in ubuntu xenial PROPOSED14:16
yofelMissing build dependencies: libkf5screen-dev (>= 4:5.5.1~)14:16
yofel*phew*14:16
sgclarkso it got uploaded probably after plasma so then things explode because plasma was built with older libkscreen14:16
yofelso we're good in the archive14:16
sgclarkok14:16
yofelright, that's exactly what happened14:17
clivejoand yofel is still RM?14:20
yofelhuh?14:20
clivejoyou said you quit :P14:20
clivejoso everything is right with the world again!14:21
=== yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.5.4: X/proposed, Apps 15.12.1: X/staging-misc, FW 5.18: X/proposed | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | plasma 5.5 in kubuntu-ppa/ppa-landing for xenial, kubuntu-ppa/backports for wily
yofeloh yeah, that. Don't worry, I constantly feel like quitting and never actually do that14:22
clivejogood!14:22
clivejogood that you never actually do, not that you constantly feel like quitting, that bits makes me sad!14:22
mamarleyAnd it is why I want to help, because more people are needed, not fewer!14:23
clivejomamarley: you coming along to the packaging party on Friday?14:24
mamarleyclivejo: What party is that?14:24
clivejomamarley: http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-packaging-party/14:25
mamarleyclivejo: I will be sort-of around in IRC, but I won't be able to join the hangout because of $WORK.14:26
clivejono problem, its very informal and mostly just fun I think14:28
clivejopackaging and party never share the same sentence in my experience!14:29
clivejosgclark: so the current unstable branch in KCI is plasma 5.5.5?14:31
BluesKajwhat skills are required for packaging? I'm still not clear about that :-)14:32
sgclarkclivejo: no it needs to staging script run14:32
clivejobut what branch is the KCI pulling from when it builds unstable?14:33
sgclarkthen through merges it should become 5.5.514:33
sgclarkkubuntu_xenila_archive -> kubuntu_stable -> kubuntu_unstable14:33
yofelwe are talking about _unstable, right? Then that's 5.6.9014:33
sgclarkshit what?!?!?! we are screwed.14:34
sgclarkthen it all went boom14:34
BluesKajI guess if I have to ask then I don't have them 14:34
yofelunstable tracks upstream master14:34
clivejofor example KCI is building akonadi and failing, is it tracking apps 16.04?14:34
yofelit's always done that, unless I'm misunderstanding something here14:34
sgclarkBluesKaj: that is not true. we are in a discussion. I am not even sure of skills.14:34
yofelclivejo: yes14:35
clivejoBluesKaj: the topic is packaging, from the beginning14:35
clivejoif you are interested, come along and ask questions14:35
sgclarkBluesKaj: come to the packaging party :)14:35
yofelBluesKaj: for the start: being able to edit config files, use the shell and some basic understanding how a linux system works14:36
yofelthe rest isn't knowledge you would aquire otherwise - except maybe C++ programming knowledge and scripting14:36
sgclarkok. so my main concern was actual changelog version. it is still on version we uploaded. We are good. 14:37
BluesKajsgclark, I won't miss it , I'm usually here14:39
sgclarkclivejo: when you run staging for 5.5.5 unstable will naturally get version bump. However, yes it does build upstream master. So the version matchup there is rather uncorrect. But we will bump to 5.6 after 5.5.514:39
sgclarkI would like to get 5.5.5 done rather quickly so that I can run update-projects.rb and be in sync with tooling14:40
clivejoyofel: so because I stupidly told KCI to build libkolab2.0.0, it still has those packages in the kubuntu-ci/unstable PPA14:40
clivejoso I need to delete them manually?14:40
sgclarkoh. just delete those in ppa14:41
sgclarkclivejo: yes14:41
clivejoas the proper version should be 1.0.214:41
sgclarkjust delete them14:41
clivejook, deleting14:41
sgclarkprobably stable too?14:41
BluesKajyofel, sgclark thanks for the info ..looks like I'll be testing for a while :-)14:41
clivejoIve got failed copying here14:41
clivejo21 failed copying14:42
sgclarkfailed copying what?14:42
clivejoin the KCI stable ppa14:42
clivejosgclark:  https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable/+packages14:43
sgclarklol yup.14:44
clivejowhats that mean?14:44
* sgclark wonders why ci bot is copying packages14:44
sgclarkclivejo: a question for sitter14:44
clivejodoesnt it copy successfully ones?14:44
clivejoto the daily ppa14:45
* sgclark shrugs14:45
sgclarkthis is not the daily ppa14:45
clivejoI know14:46
sgclarkit is trying to copy packages that exist already. hense the fail14:46
clivejobut I think it copies successful builds to ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable-daily14:46
clivejoand ppa:kubuntu-ci/stable-daily14:46
sgclarkthat is fine. but the failures are in stable. Not sure what that has to do with this.14:46
sgclarkunstable packages should not be copied into stable repo. period. that would make stable very unstable..14:48
clivejodunno, but Ive deleted libkolab2.0.0 from both unstable and stable14:49
clivejolots of copy failure here https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable-daily/+packages14:51
clivejoit looks like when KCI is working properly that it should provide a fully working system14:52
clivejoand even an ISO14:52
clivejositter: can you shed some light on that?14:53
sgclarkyeah the unstable -> stable is quite scary looking. Something seems amiss14:55
sgclarkok I really have to tend to my neglected kde hat for a bit. clivejo you wnt to run 5.5.5 staging? pretty please? :)14:57
clivejosgclark: but yofel asked me to keep holding14:58
sgclarkoh14:58
sgclarkoops sorry missed that14:58
sgclarkthen run it after he green lights it :)14:58
sgclarkstill here but distracted.14:58
clivejo<clivejo> so, plasma 5.5.5 still hold off or try and stage it?14:59
clivejo<yofel> hold off for now14:59
clivejo<sgclark> I believe we have green light to stage that14:59
sgclarkok. my bad. listen to him, not me.14:59
clivejohe must have concern about something14:59
sgclarkyup14:59
clivejoand hes usually right :P14:59
sgclarkyup lol15:00
clivejoI hate to say it!15:00
sitterclivejo: if you put the question in a sentence I probably can15:08
clivejowhat is the unstable and stable daily PPA's for15:08
yofelclivejo, sgclark: yes, libkscreen - which we cleared up seconds after that ^^15:10
yofeltheoretically something can still go wrong in the 5.5.4 builds, but we can work that out when it happens15:10
sitterclivejo: when *all* packages in the respective subset are not red *and* all created packages (excluding -dbg) upgrade (from previous daily) and install and purge *then* all packages are promoted from the landing PPA (e.g. unstable) to the dail PPA (unstable-daily)15:10
sgclarkok so he is good to stage 5.5.5?15:10
yofelyes15:11
sitterhttps://github.com/blue-systems/pangea-tooling/blob/master/ci-tooling/kci/install_check.rb#L22015:11
clivejoso they have undergone some additional checks as well?15:11
sitterthey are assumed not entirely fucked, yes15:12
clivejoand does KCI also build ISOs?15:12
sitternot automatically15:12
sitterthough it could be made automatic obviously15:13
clivejooh, so its not because the list it needs is not green?15:13
sitterthe original process was daily promotion would run automatically when everything is not red. once a week I'd go and manually test daily and cause a promotion to weekly. then we'd roll an ISO from that15:13
sitterclivejo: ISO doesn't care15:13
sitterpromotion cares15:13
yofelSkipped packages: kde-baseapps, kdepim, kdepim-runtime, kdepimlibs15:13
yofelour tooling sucks15:13
yofelI qut15:13
yofelquit15:14
sitterISO would simply build with ancient packages if the promotion did not succeed15:14
clivejositter: just curious as http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_daily_promotion_xenial_unstable/ seems to be green now15:14
sitterhttp://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_daily_promotion_xenial_unstable/673/console15:15
clivejowondered if that would trigger an ISO build15:15
sitterincorrectly so it would appear15:15
clivejoso what would trigger a new ISO to appear here - http://kci.pangea.pub/images/15:16
sittersomeone running the ISO job15:17
clivejoall green in the promotion job?15:17
clivejowell a working ISO!15:17
sitter[16:13] <sitter> clivejo: ISO doesn't care15:17
sitterif you run it you run it15:17
sitterif it succeeds it succeeds15:18
sitterif it doesn't it doesn't15:18
clivejoI see15:18
sitterin short: ISO doesn't care15:18
clivejothere are no checks to verify the pacakges install ?15:18
sitterpromotion does that15:19
clivejoso one would check with promotion, when happy with the a green page would run an ISO build15:20
sitteryup15:20
clivejomagic!15:20
clivejoso that basically what NCI is doing, but for FW and Plasma on Wily?15:21
sitterneon has no daily promotion15:21
sitterbut yes. in princple15:21
clivejositter: also, can KCI be configured to not build everything, every night?15:22
clivejoonly stuff that has changed?15:23
sitterit only builds stuff that has changed15:23
clivejoa SCM or Packaging ?15:23
sitterwell, either15:24
clivejoit seems to be building a LOT of pacakages daily15:24
clivejolast night it was 600+15:24
sitterwhen upstream branches things it usually ends up rebuilding everything15:24
sitteralso upstream version bumps obviously are a culprit of that15:25
clivejoseems an aweful lot15:25
clivejoI didnt think stable would have very much SCM15:26
sitterstable doesn't have 600 jobs15:27
sitterupstream stable branches get merged into upstream unstable branches though15:27
sitterso if there are say 100 apps you can get 200 builds from those15:27
clivejoI guess, and then we have a separate build for wily as well15:29
clivejoyofel: you fixed a merge failure with kwin on KCI15:30
clivejohttp://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/kwin.git/log/?h=kubuntu_unstable15:30
clivejowhich as commented out sections of control file15:30
yofelwhat commit (hash) are you referring to?15:31
clivejowhich is generating a missing file warning in unstable15:31
clivejoI dont know where its coming from :/15:31
clivejooh15:32
clivejoit was a while ago15:32
clivejohttp://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/kwin.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=5b00c531604258e34222cf6a8c3918a04a2be7df15:32
clivejonope thats not it either!15:32
geniiHave my Xenial testing install updated and booted. If anyone needs something tested, give me a ping15:33
clivejosomeone commented out part of control and left a comment # requires libhybris but the not the ubuntu version of it15:34
sgclarkgenii: kdevelop in staging-misc needs tested15:34
yofelclivejo: that was me15:34
geniisgclark: So add staging-misc ppa and install kdevelop?15:34
yofelfeel free to completely remove that if you want to15:35
sgclarkyes please15:35
clivejowhen did you do that?15:35
yofelin the commit you referenced?15:35
clivejodo you know why it wont work with ubuntu version of it?15:35
clivejoI noticed it looking for it in the buildlog and added it to the build deps http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/kwin.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=3bcc6dd49c7ed3644bbfb82940024202e415037215:36
clivejoso it is building the file, just has nowhere to put it15:37
yofelbecause the ubuntu version is a fork that doesn't work with kwin15:37
yofelsure, you can build it, but it's completely useless15:37
yofelso it was removed on upstream request15:37
yofelAFAIK our QA tools even whitelist the hybris dep as not required15:38
clivejois there anywhere we keep notes on things like this?15:38
yofelI added a comment in the package, didn't I?15:38
yofelthat was exactly for this reason15:38
clivejoso if I revert my changeset http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/kwin.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=3bcc6dd49c7ed3644bbfb82940024202e415037215:39
clivejoshould be good15:39
yofelI even added an even longer comment in the changelog15:40
geniisgclark: Will I need to install any supplementary PPAs? Right now this install is stock and just has only a sources.list15:40
sgclarkgenii: yes ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-misc15:40
yofelgenii: you shouldn't need to15:40
sgclarkyofel: genii is testing kdevelop for me15:40
yofelyes, and he said that he was installing staging-misc, but he shouldn't need anything *else*15:41
kfunkugh, I just restarted. bad idea.15:41
sgclarkoh. don't list to me then. carry on.15:41
kfunklibkscreen6 seems broken, are you aware?15:41
kfunkerr, libkf5screen615:41
yofelkfunk, genii: in the ppa libkf5screen6 is broken, yes. Please install libkf5screen-bin15:41
kfunklibkf5screen6 doesn't ship the backendlauncher anymore15:41
kfunkah, ok15:42
* sgclark goes back to kde hat15:42
kfunkyay15:42
geniiyofel: So the libkf5screen-bin required is where?15:43
yofelgenii: in the ppa, just not auto-installed15:43
geniiAh, got it15:43
genii-xenialsgclark: Should I also install all the pending upgrades or test as is? https://paste.kde.org/p8naa8eh515:54
sgclarkgenii-xenial: probably best to install pending as that is what will be in archive15:55
genii-xenialOk16:00
clivejoyofel sgclark: when staging discover, its cloning from git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/pkg-kde/plasma/discover  but that should be plasma-discover16:07
yofeloh yeah, needs the same code block that I added to ubuntu-archive-upload16:08
yofelfeel free to fix ti16:08
clivejowhat upstream is it talking about16:10
clivejobecause its is still called discover on kde download16:10
clivejobut plasma-discover on debian16:10
clivejoin upstream-names.json it is "plasma-discover": "discover",16:11
clivejoso I need to remove it from package-name-list?16:12
geniisgclark: After upgrade there were a bunch held back, doing a dist-upgrade now and reboot, will be a while yet16:12
clivejoeak16:14
genii-xenialback in a bit16:26
clivejoyofel: Ive also had to downgrade frameworks-xenial to 5.1816:32
clivejothey were 5.1916:33
clivejoand bumped plasma to 5.5.5~16:33
genii-xenialsgclark: Anything specific with kdevelop you want tested?16:34
yofelclivejo: discover doesn't work with the common rules, you need to add another exception code block to fix the repo lookup16:34
yofelI think16:34
sgclarkgenii-xenial: make sure it runs, open files etc. No need to build an application :)16:36
clivejoI think its ok now16:36
clivejoI re-cloned KA16:37
clivejomy local package list was messed up16:37
geniisgclark: The "quick open" opens a pop-down from the bar which seems no way to get rid of16:38
clivejobut as we wont have FW 5.19, Ive downgraded these to 5.1816:39
clivejohttps://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/dev-package-name-lists/frameworks-xenial.json16:39
clivejothey were bumped to stage 5.19, but never got to finish that16:39
geniisgclark: Opened a text file, altered it, saved it.16:42
sgclarkgenii: ok. will try to reproduce. ty16:42
geniisgclark: Need a screen shot or anything?16:47
sgclarkgenii: nah its ok. 16:51
geniiOK16:51
geniiBasically the collapse arrow is greyed out16:51
sgclarkgenii: nm screenshot please.16:53
sgclarknever used quick open. not sure I see a "collapse" arrow anywhere16:53
sgclarkclicking anywhere in the other window closes it though16:54
geniiAh, on hover it says "Go back in context history", so maybe not what I originally thought16:57
geniisgclark: Yes, clicking another area closes it. Oddly though it remains open if you continue to try and select other things off the bar 16:58
sgclarkok. don't think that is a packaging issue. So I think we are ok to upload.17:01
sgclarkit is a bugfix release, so no major differences17:02
mamarleyclivejo: I don't mean to be annoying, but would it be possible to cherry-pick http://commits.kde.org/plasma-workspace/5a1a411b41f950e97d80ff7c898052fb6d02fb1a into 5.5.5?  It fixes a fairly annoying Plasma crash that occurs whenever a monitor is turned on or attached.  It is already in 5.6, but it would be nice to have that fixed in Xenial.17:31
clivejomamarley: it might be if I ever get them staged17:31
clivejokeeps failing17:31
mamarleyclivejo: I'm not trying to rush you, sorry.17:32
clivejoyofel: on kwin Im getting this17:33
clivejosubprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['/home/clivejo/kubuntu-automation/bump-build-dep-versions', '--dist', 'xenial', '--version', '5.5.5', '--releasetype', 'plasma']' returned non-zero exit status 117:33
clivejoits grabbing the SC and the packaging git, but failing on bump-build-dep-versions17:34
sgclarkI would start by looking at kwin control file to see if anything stands out in regards to build dep versions17:36
clivejolooking at it now17:36
clivejonothing is jumping out at me17:36
sgclarkok.17:37
clivejohttp://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/kwin.git/tree/debian/control?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive17:37
clivejosgclark: can you see anything obvious?17:37
clivejoplasma-framework-dev (>= 5.12.0~) ?17:38
clivejothat sounds wrong17:38
sgclarkwell it is a framework. so that should be ok17:39
sgclarknothing jumping out at me either.17:39
sgclarkclivejo: copy the entire konsole error and ping yofel17:39
sgclarkinto pastebin17:40
clivejoshould that not be bumped to 5.18?17:40
sgclarkOh possibly our scripts cannot handle multiple versions like that17:40
sgclarkdebian does not bump versions every release, so from merge.17:41
sgclarkwhich is a problem to ponder17:41
clivejohttps://paste.kde.org/p4jkjdpic17:42
clivejowould the libudev-dev [linux-any], be tripping it up?17:43
sgclarkclivejo: that error is it is looking for Package variable that does not exist. need to wait for yofel17:45
clivejoIll go have some tea then!17:47
yofelcould be crashing on the comments17:47
yofelI never used deb822 myself17:48
yofelwhere's santa when you need him17:48
yofelKeyError: 'Package'17:48
yofelhuh17:48
yofelthis is a perfectly valid control file17:49
yofelnow I remember why I hate deb82217:51
yofelit removes comments17:51
yofelfor some reason that command doesn't crash for me though17:52
yofelclivejo: what exactly did you change in KA? I see no commits on master17:52
sgclarkumm hmm. did an upgrade and kwallet seems broken18:18
sgclarknm18:18
soeeclivejo: ping18:47
soeeyofel: what was the package name to get plasma back? something liek libkfkscrenn-bin ?18:49
mamarleysoee: libkf5screen-bin18:49
soeemamarley: thanks18:49
soeehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/ex-kubuntu-leader-accuses-canonical-again-of-distributing-linux-illegally-501461.shtml :)19:04
geniiI thought this issue was long dead already19:07
sgclarkoh good grief19:10
sgclarkI am so tired of the constant fighting and head bashing. Not just that, everywhere. 19:14
* sgclark wanders off19:14
mamarleyMe too.  Can't we just concentrate on making good software?19:15
yofelmamarley: not as long as someone in the world keeps using GPLv219:22
* soee thinks it is a good time for hot tea :)19:59
clivejoyofel: I didnt commit the changes20:15
clivejoI bumped plasma build deps to 5.5.5 and downgraded fw to 5.1820:15
yofelcan you please commit that. I cannot reproduce your problem20:17
clivejois that the right thing to do?20:17
clivejoI bumped fw  to 5.19 as we were going to stage fw5.1920:18
yofelit's right, yes20:18
clivejobut these plasma packages need to be built on 5.1820:18
clivejoas thats what is in the archive20:18
yofelright20:18
clivejooh why is -    "plasma-workspace-dev": "4:5.5.1.1~",20:20
clivejothats wrong?20:20
sgclarkwe can't stage 5.19 it is features20:20
sgclarkone too many ones there20:20
clivejoyofel: you pushed to KA?20:21
yofelI fixed various things, yes20:22
soeeso we have whole misc in archive already ?20:23
yofelapps not20:23
yofelI think I got the stupid thing to build right, but i'm too tired to properly validate that20:24
soeesome problems ?20:24
yofelthe package generation script messed up repeatedly20:24
BluesKajtime to close up shop...later 20:25
clivejowhy did it do that!!20:25
clivejoyofel: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/20:27
clivejoI commited the FW downgrade and the plasma bump20:27
clivejobut why did it do a merge?20:27
clivejoI didnt tell it to do that!20:27
yofelwell, you and me both made changes, which caused the branches to diverge. By default git will do a merge to resolve that20:29
yofelotherwise you would've had to run: git pull --rebase if you wanted the history to be kept linear20:30
clivejois that right?20:31
yofelFWIW, the script doesn't error out for me, but it does the wrong thing http://paste.ubuntu.com/15330210/20:31
yofelclivejo: it's fine20:32
clivejodoes the script work from git?20:32
yofelwe don't have a policy on how you're supposed to do it20:32
clivejowould it be because I didnt commit it?20:32
yofelwhat do you mean?20:32
yofelI don't think so..20:33
clivejoyou know the way some of the scripts fail if we done commit first20:33
yofelthat's gbp behavior mostly, and that's unrelated here20:35
yofelI wonder if it's because it's wrapped in the other script20:35
clivejowrapped?20:36
yofelthe subprocess thing20:36
clivejoI guess I have to rm plasma folder and start again!20:36
yofelprobably20:37
clivejo:(20:37
clivejohave you them staged locally?20:37
clivejoevening time is not a good time for me to do downloads/uploads20:38
yofelI'm running on a crappy 3G dongle right now, so I'm doing everything on a server over ssh20:38
yofelneed one?20:39
clivejowant to go ahead and stage from there?20:40
yofelwell, yeah. I wanted to try this anyway20:40
yofellets see if that works20:40
yofelthe kwin changes are giving me a headache though20:40
yofelImportError: No module named future20:41
yofelwell, I didn't get very far :D20:41
clivejofuture?20:41
sgclarklol20:42
yofel!info python-future20:42
ubottupython-future (source: python-future): single-source support for Python 3 and 2 - Python 2.x. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.14.3-1 (wily), package size 324 kB, installed size 1711 kB20:42
clivejoah20:42
clivejoI had that first tim20:42
yofelguess I never ran that script on that machine so far ^^20:42
sgclarkoh yofel kdevelop is ready. we have to skip python3 for now I guess, it wants a version that does not exist in xenial at this time20:43
kfunksgclark: tell me if there are any problems, fwiw20:43
yofelsgclark: which one?20:43
sgclarkkfunk: working great for me20:43
* kfunk would have loved to have it ready 16.04, but oh well...20:43
* sgclark looks again20:43
sgclarkpackaged, waiting for python3 build to not be FTBFS. one sec20:44
sgclarkugh laptop is being cranky.20:44
sgclark Python >= 3.4.3 and < 3.5 with --enable-shared is required to build this20:45
sgclarkyofel: ^20:45
yofelah yeah okay. So he didn't make a 3.5 release after all20:46
yofelmeh, failed on discover20:52
clivejoyofel: is this your own server?20:53
yofelyes20:53
clivejoso you can put your key on it?20:54
yofelyes20:54
clivejo:)20:54
yofel*sigh*20:55
yofelwhy does staging-upload have a different package matching codepath than ubuntu-archive-upload20:55
clivejoyofel sgclark can debian merges on trello be marked as done?20:56
yofelprobably20:56
sgclarkyeah20:59
clivejoyofel: any luck?21:16
yofelhad to do some patchery, and it still messes up kwin, but it at least doesn't fail21:18
clivejowhats the problem?21:18
yofelit deletes the comment block from the control file21:19
yofelI wonder what else it removed in other packages21:19
yofelskipping non-regular file "plasma-workspace-5.5.5.tar.xz"21:21
yofelhuh21:21
yofelplasma-workspace-5.5.5.2.tar.xz21:23
clivejoit was patched21:23
yofelso our rsync command doesn't resolve symlinks *-.-21:23
yofel-L should do that21:24
yofelnext try21:25
clivejoyofel: any luck?21:36
yofelfunny timing, finished 10s ago21:36
clivejomany in manual?21:37
yofelfinished mostly fine21:37
yofel=== The following packages couldn't be processed and have been moved to manual/21:37
yofelkdecoration: git unclean or out of sync21:37
yofelksshaskpass: git unclean or out of sync21:37
yofelkwayland-integration: git unclean or out of sync21:37
yofelkwrited: git unclean or out of sync21:37
yofelplasma-workspace-wallpapers: git unclean or out of sync21:37
yofelsddm-kcm: git unclean or out of sync21:37
yofelEND21:37
yofellet me upload stuff21:38
clivejopushed the update for the status page?21:45
yofelno, feel free to21:45
clivejodone21:47
clivejomamarley: I think that patch you want cherry picked is actually in plasma-workspace-5.5.5.2.tar.xz21:51
yofel/var/lib/jenkins/.rvm/gems/ruby-2.2.1/gems/git-1.3.0/lib/git/lib.rb:937:in `command': git '--git-dir=/var/lib/jenkins/jobs/merger_libkscreen/workspace/.git' '--work-tree=/var/lib/jenkins/jobs/merger_libkscreen/workspace' merge '-m' 'Merging kubuntu_stable into kubuntu_unstable.' 'kubuntu_stable'  2>&1:Auto-merging debian/changelog (Git::GitExecuteError)21:53
yofelCONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in debian/changelog21:53
yofel[ /tmp/plasma555/libkscreen/git 1 files 16Kb 22:52 kubuntu_unstable ]21:53
yofelyofel@yofel-thinkpad $ git merge origin/kubuntu_stable 21:53
yofelAlready up-to-date.21:53
valorieoff to yakima; I'll catch up here later21:53
yofelhuh?!?21:53
yofeloh wait21:55
clivejoI dont like kscreen any more21:55
clivejoyofel: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.5.5_xenial.html21:56
yofelnah, I got the order wrong21:57
clivejoW: libkf5screen6: symbols-declares-dependency-on-other-package libkf5screen-bin21:57
clivejostill complaining about bloody symbols!21:57
yofelanyway, stuff up22:00
* yofel goes doing something else22:00
clivejoyofel: even the manual ones?22:00
yofelno22:01
yofelI put the list on the pad22:01
clivejocan I do them manually?22:02
yofelwell, you have to22:02
clivejoweird22:07
clivejowould kdecoration (4:5.4.2-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium in the changelog prevent uscan using the correct source tarbal?22:09
clivejoits downloading 5.5.5 but wont build using it22:09
clivejoit keeps looking for kdecoration_5.5.4.orig.tar.gz22:10
mamarleyclivejo: Thanks!22:10
yofeluh22:13
yofelthe script never added the changelog there22:13
clivejoI did it manually22:13
clivejobut its looking for the wrong version :/22:14
yofelwell, the changelog you added should say 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu122:14
genii-xenialIf there's anything else you guys need testing with, my regulasr work is over and I'll be here another 45minutes or so22:14
clivejostupid git!!22:14
yofelbut git has nothing to do with this :D22:15
clivejopush you stupid thing!22:15
clivejoPUSH!!22:15
yofelit doesn't push for you?22:15
clivejoseem to be having connection issues22:15
yofel:(22:15
clivejojust did it now22:15
clivejothats better22:16
clivejoyofel: isnt FW 5.18 in te archive now? 22:17
yofelits, but parts might be in NEW22:17
clivejoor they in propsed?22:17
clivejothe PPA doesnt seem to be seeing them :/22:18
yofelthe ppas have proposed enabled, but the packages aren't there yeet22:18
yofelsome stuff is stuck in source NEW some in binary NEW22:18
clivejooh dear22:19
clivejoalt soluation?22:20
yofeluh, fetch the stuff that's unapproved and upload it to the ppa?22:20
yofeleither that or wait22:20
clivejohow long will the wait be?22:20
yofeluntil an archive admin has time to review stuff22:21
clivejoso how long is a lenght of string22:21
yofela cotton, nylon or spider one?22:21
clivejomight be easier to copy in the required files?22:21
yofelprobably22:22
clivejowill that cause problems?22:22
yofelunlikely...22:22
clivejoseems to be mostly libkf5declarative-dev 22:22
clivejohumm, thats not even FW is it?22:25
clivejoyofel: so LP deletes a package in a PPA when it gets uploaded into the archive?22:28
yofelno22:28
clivejoI am looking in staging frameworks22:28
yofelIIRC scarlett said something about cleaning up the ppas22:28
yofeland I wiped staging-plasma earlier22:29
clivejosays its been deleted or superseded22:29
yofelthat's leftovers22:29
clivejook, found it in misc22:30
clivejocan I copy that to apps staging?22:30
yofelwhy apps staging?22:30
clivejosorry plasma22:30
yofelwell, do it if you want22:31
clivejowill it cause problems?22:31
clivejothis is version kdeclarative - 5.18.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa50 22:31
yofelif it does, fix it22:32
clivejoare you being evil?!?22:33
clivejook, copying22:33
yofelno, just tired and I'm really doing something else and you're asking me about almost every single thing you're doing...22:33
yofelyou've exhausted my answer quota for today22:33
clivejosorry :(22:34
yofelnp22:34
* clivejo goes into quiet mode22:34
* genii goes into coffee mode22:34

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