[13:34] <Laney> cjwatson: Hi, could you check if you are grabbing appstream from us correctly please?
[13:34] <Laney> I added a timestamp on my end to check on this and yours doesn't have it
[13:45] <cjwatson> Laney: nothing worrisome in logs.  how long ago did you add it and on what host?
[13:46] <cjwatson> Laney: I don't see anything obviously timestamp-like when I try "rsync -av appstream.ubuntu.com::appstream/"
[13:47] <Laney> cjwatson: "Time" in the header document
[13:47] <Laney> I think it should have started appearing yesterday
[13:47] <cjwatson> which header document is that?
[13:47] <Laney> at least xenial/main/amd64 has it
[13:48] <cjwatson> is this somewhere inside xenial/main/Components-amd64.yml.gz ?
[13:48] <Laney> ubuntu@temp-rsync-host:~/appstream/xenial/main$ zgrep "Time:" Components-amd64.yml.gz
[13:48] <Laney> /bin/bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_GB.UTF-8)
[13:48] <Laney> Time: '2016-03-08T13:05:43.158291+00:00'
[13:56] <cjwatson> Laney: for some reason the mtime of that file is older than the version we already have, so LP doesn't install it
[13:56] <cjwatson> cjwatson@pepo:/srv/launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive$ ls -l ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/dep11/Components-amd64.yml.gz
[13:56] <cjwatson> -rw-rw-r-- 1 lp_publish lp_publish 433553 Mar  8 13:44 ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/dep11/Components-amd64.yml.gz
[13:56] <cjwatson> cjwatson@pepo:/srv/launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive$ ls -l ubuntu-staging/xenial/main/dep11/Components-amd64.yml.gz
[13:56] <cjwatson> -rw-rw-r-- 1 lp_publish lp_publish 429569 Mar  8 13:07 ubuntu-staging/xenial/main/dep11/Components-amd64.yml.gz
[13:57] <cjwatson> hm, that's today though
[13:57] <Laney> Is it possible that something is making that always be the case?
[13:57] <cjwatson> I thought I was fairly careful there
[13:58] <Laney> I think that I made emacs24 appear some time last week
[13:58] <Laney> and it's not in the archive's version
[13:58] <cjwatson> that mtime is super weird though
[13:58] <Laney> The first thing that made me suspicious enough to add this timestamp was not seeing apt downloading it very often
[13:59] <cjwatson> it's in the middle of release file generation
[13:59] <cjwatson> which is a bit WTF
[13:59] <cjwatson> oh
[13:59] <cjwatson> _syncTimestamps
[14:00] <cjwatson> there's a thing that makes sure that all the mtimes of Release and anything it contains match up, to make it easier to insert caching headers on mirrors
[14:00] <cjwatson> that clashes rather badly with this
[14:00] <cjwatson> probably with Contents files too
[14:00] <cjwatson> hm hm hm
[14:01] <cjwatson> Laney: please file a bug, this is definitely screwed but I need to think about the best way to fix it
[14:01] <Laney> OK
[14:02] <cjwatson> we may need to use something other than mtime for the sync-from-staging
[14:02]  * Laney gets this filed quickly so that he can go away before hearing too much of the archers
[14:03] <cjwatson> paging @SoVeryBritish
[14:05] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1554535
[14:06]  * Laney goes to lunch
[14:06] <cjwatson> ta
[15:25] <dpm> hi cjwatson, last week you mentioned an LP change that needed to land to fix snap builder issues. Has that landed and if not, is there a bug I can track?
[15:39] <cjwatson> dpm: it was a launchpad-buildd change, and it's landed
[15:39] <cjwatson> well, except on arm64 for reasons, I should go and chase that up
[15:51] <dpm> cjwatson, great, thanks. I saw the build of my snap failing again this morning, so I wasn't sure if it was the same issue. But it might also be the latest changes to the branch, which don't seem to be supported by snapcraft. I'll check later
[15:55] <cjwatson> dpm: link?
[15:55] <cjwatson> dpm: snapcraft compatibility is fairly, yes, well
[15:56] <cjwatson> dpm: afaics you've performed no snap builds on LP since last week
[17:11] <xnox> do clone links look broken here https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/+source/openstack-on-lxd-bundle/+git/openstack-on-lxd-bundle
[17:17] <cjwatson> they're OK aside from the annoying wrapping
[19:02] <dpm> cjwatson, indeed, no snap builds. Sorry, misread the subject of the e-mail notification, as I'm building both snaps and .debs for the same upstream project
[19:07] <xnox> cjwatson, imho they shall never wrap, like they don't on https://git.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/+source/openstack-on-lxd-bundle
[19:07] <xnox> cjwatson, and e.g. i have enough screen space to have them non-wrapped.
[21:09] <cjwatson> xnox: (ITYM "should".)  I agree, file a bug?
[21:09] <ricotz> hello, how are spamming accounts suppose to be handled? https://answers.launchpad.net/synapse-project/+question/288140
[21:09] <cjwatson> wgrant: ^-
[21:09]  * wgrant applies fire.
[21:09] <ricotz> ;-)