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timeaxHello is there somebody awake?00:40
lpottersometimes00:45
timeaxHi :)00:46
timeaxI tryed the guide linked in the topic for the ubuntu touh porting on a new device00:47
timeaxBut when i the packages listed i'm having a problem00:48
timeaxIt says impossible to find mingw32 package00:48
timeaxYou know how can i solve that?00:48
timeaxOk no prob, its late, good night ppls ;)00:51
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keesjHi, do specific ports have a special irc channel?10:25
davmor2keesj: no10:25
keesjI would like to keep up (and help) on the FP2 port hence my question10:29
keesj(I am working at Fairphone)10:30
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MCMicWill the hardware of the fairphone allow to use the convergence?10:46
davmor2keesj: this will be your best channel then I think10:54
tvosskeesj, you want to reach out to mariogrip11:00
tvosskeesj, oh, and welcome :)11:01
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keesjMCMic: I am quite new to the Ubuntu-phone part (but long time ubuntu/linux user and of course embedded/android developer)11:06
keesjI don't know what specs are required for convergence11:07
Stskeepskeesj: mhl/slimport on fp2 ooi?11:07
keesjWhile the soc can support HDMI out (using an adapter) this won't work on FP211:09
Stskeepsnod11:09
keesjwe do have the standar otg port (and an additional usb port on the back) so perhaps something over usb can work11:10
MCMickeesj: And is that on a part that might be changed later on a fairphone? I know some ports are easily replaced.11:11
keesjfor example there is an existing Linux video(webcam) gadget that we can try to hook up11:11
keesjMCMic: No, HDMI requires +5v out and we initially used that port to power the extension port11:13
keesjso .. enablind HDMI would require at least a new PCB respin (not something we are looking forward to doing any time soon)11:14
MCMic:-/11:14
dpmhi keesj11:40
dpmI think mariogrip had some issues which might be related to the kernel and wanted to reach out to you11:42
dpmI'm not sure he's had the time to yet, but I'm sure he'll reply when he's online11:42
mariogripYeah After blank() / setPower() (hwc) the display don’t want to wake up again.11:42
dpmthere you go :)11:42
victor_bqHi all!12:02
victor_bqI need some help12:03
victor_bqI've got a customer interested in UP, and he wants some hints about what is possible with it12:03
victor_bqhe wants to know if is possible to create a script to manage hot-spot connection or create/config a phisical netwaork via USB-RJ45 adapter12:05
victor_bq=)12:05
davmor2victor_bq: hotspot only deals with naming and turning on and off, not much you can script there :)  As for usb-rj45 connector in theory it should just work but in all honesty I don't think anyone has tried it12:07
mcphailvictor_bq: a script triggered by what? I don't think there is a mechanism for NFC/RFID or GPS triggers, for example12:07
victor_bqhis first question was if it's possible to set up a 3G connection or a Wi-Fi AP with a script to use krillin as a wireless router12:12
ogra_sure, we ship nmcli12:12
ogra_weather there is a module for his USB ethernet adaptaer is another thing :)12:13
victor_bqhe is a sys admin from a spanish company that wants to use some UP for IT solutions and is just asking some things :)12:13
victor_bqthanks @ogra12:14
ogra_well, worst case he acn always make the system writable or use an lxc container to get full ubuntu features12:14
ogra_*can12:14
dpmkeesj, not sure if you saw mariogrip's reply? ^^12:14
mariogripdpm: he haven't answer me on pm, so I guess he's offline12:15
keesjyea , I am not that great at IRC on such channels :P12:17
keesjmariogrip: do you mind if we use #fairphone-ubuntu or #fairphone-ubuntu-touch? (as to keep traffic low)12:20
mariogripkeesj: yeah, sure12:20
keesjwhat works for you12:25
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lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-is-being-ported-to-sony-xperia-t2-ultra-android-phones-501471.shtml13:03
popeyoh jeez13:03
popeyadfad666: ^ I shared your screenshot, now you're in the news, sorry :)13:04
lotuspsychjelets hope more device will get the ubuntu bite :p13:12
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mariogripa new device just got delivered, a n5 :) dobey13:21
popeyoooh13:23
adfad666Oops13:38
popeyadfad666: no pressure ㋛13:56
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dobeymariogrip: nice :)14:15
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ogra_sil2100, i see a livecd-rootfs 2.382 package in the archive, but no release in the LP branch15:39
ogra_did you forget to debcommit/push ?15:39
sil2100Crap, didn't I bzr push it?15:40
ogra_deosnt look like ... can you ?15:40
sil2100Eh, sure, I had it in /tmp though so I'll just recreate the release commit15:40
sil2100Sorry about that, I was 100% sure I did a push15:41
ogra_yeah, happens :)15:41
ogra_(to me too ... :)15:41
ogra_thanks !15:42
sil2100yw! Will make sure that never happens again ;)15:46
ogra_lol15:47
ogra_dont make such promises ... it happens to me too every 10th time :)15:47
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mptjgdx, pmcgowan: fingerprint design done. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings?action=diff&rev2=74&rev1=7316:19
mptI got sucked down rabbit holes of “we should always make you set a passcode” and “we should allow passcodes of more digits”, but this is the minimum change just for fingerprints16:20
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mpt(and both of those, combined, lead to “passwords are just another kind of passcode” and “having a passcode without using it for unlocking is the same as having ‘Lock after auto-sleeping’ set to ‘Never’”, etc)16:23
mptSo there’s lots of other changes pending once fingerprint is done (which will, for example, solve the awkwardness of fingerprint ID assuming that you want a passcode and not a password)16:25
pmcgowanmpt, ok sounds good thanks, tvoss|lunch ^^16:27
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Maxr1998timeax: I successfully built UTouch for mako without that package..17:07
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FacuHi all!18:18
FacuI'm trying to flash a device, but ubuntu-device-flash just hangs :/18:18
Facuthis is the third time I run it, now I left it a couple of hours18:18
Facusee http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15329318/18:18
Facuis there any way to make it show progress or something?18:18
mterryMirv, re: bug 1552860, even in your new update, the qservicemanager_ipc is still marked as "failing in Ubuntu" -- do we know why?  Is it something we can fix?18:19
ubot5bug 1552860 in qtsystems-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qtsystems-opensource-src" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155286018:19
bubbleshi, trying to flash meizu mx4 in fastboot but keep getting <waiting for device> message in terminal?! think I am missing something crucial :p18:36
bubblesand "fastboot devices" gives me: no permissionsfastboot18:41
geniiUse sudo18:42
bubbles>.<18:43
bubblesgenii: thank you18:43
bubbleswouldn't believe I have been using ubuntu on and off since 6.0618:44
* genii makes more coffee18:45
dobeyyou shouldn't need to use sudo to flash a device18:48
geniidobey: the fastboot command needs sudo18:51
ogra_genii, not if there is a proper entry in the udev file the fastboot package ships18:52
dobeyyeah i've never used "sudo fastboot"18:52
ogra_but you also only use nexus devices :)18:53
ogra_http://paste.ubuntu.com/15329642/18:53
dobeyi don't think i used sudo fastboot with the krillin either :)18:53
ogra_(from wily)18:53
ogra_the distro package has surely never been updated to have krillin in /lib/udev/rules.d/70-android-tools-fastboot.rules18:54
geniiI haven't used it on wily, but in Trusty  and Vivid, fastboot complained unless sudo18:54
dobeyanyway, chromium is really bad at history18:54
ogra_i think there was a ppa package that was kept up to date when the phonedations team still existed18:55
ogra_but i doubt anyone cared to land the changes in the archive after the team was gone18:55
bubblescould an issue with the udev file also cause issues when trying to sideload onto an MX4 with an "error: insufficient permissions for device" error?19:02
ogra_bubbles, is there already ubuntu on it ?19:05
ogra_(or was there ever)19:05
bubblesyes, trying to remove ubuntu actually :/19:05
ogra_ah19:05
ogra_no idea if that works, you most likely need a flash tool from meizu ... ubuntu uses different partitioning from android19:06
ogra_(so you need some factory tool the re-partitions the flash)19:06
ogra_s/the/that/19:07
bubblesI have already got the recovery working and as per a mail on the mailing list you can sideload flymeos ... but I keep getting the insufficient permissions error19:08
dobeybubbles: what are you trying to do? flash ubuntu? or flyme?19:09
bubblesflyme19:11
bubblesdobey: ^19:11
dobeyi think maybe you need to contact meizu support then :)19:11
bubblesk, thanks19:12
Maxr1998is there already an ubuntu port with 64bit?19:47
Maxr1998and why is the android base for ubuntu touch still 4.4.2?19:47
popeynot sure if the bq M10 is 64-bit or not19:48
Maxr1998yep, it is! you'Re right19:49
Maxr1998*re19:49
dobeythe m10 is 64-bit19:50
dobeywe use the 64-bit android container, but the ubuntu userland is still 32-bit on it19:51
Maxr1998ok19:51
Maxr1998thanks19:51
Maxr1998where do I find the sources for the 64bit container, or how do I set up a build environment for it?19:51
dobeyand 5.x changed a lot of things. there's some work to move to 5.x, but it's not entirely complete yet19:52
Maxr1998thought that19:52
dobeyi think the tablet is 5.x based though19:52
Maxr1998the renders show lollipop, yep19:52
dobeyeh?19:53
Maxr1998the renders on the bq website19:54
dobeyyou mean the android version of the tablet?19:54
dobeyi was talking about ubuntu19:54
Maxr1998yes19:55
Maxr1998What I wanted to say, the bq m10 started with android 5.X. So I guess Ubuntu Touch uses a 5.X container, because porting it to 4.4 would be.. erhm yeah19:56
krijn_hey guys (m/f ;) ) is there any way to get legacy apps running on a Nexus 4 now, the only thing which keeps on popping up are sites using the video on omgubuntu: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/02/ubuntu-convergence-x11-apps-video-demo20:06
krijn_but no where what omgubuntu calls "prepare some manual config files and use a series of arcane terminal commands"20:06
popeyheh20:07
popeyI don't think it's all documented well yet20:07
krijn_i was afraid so20:07
krijn_i was actually quite impressed with the performance on a 1080x1920 screen with a phone originating from 201220:08
krijn_wanted to push the boundaries a bit ;)20:08
dobeykrijn_: no, nothing has changed since yesterday20:09
krijn_ha, i didn't think so, but I didn't really push with my questions ;)20:11
Maxr1998is there already documentation or sources for the M10 up?20:12
Maxr1998from what I found, there isn't anything20:12
dobeyand nexus 4 isn't 1080p either20:12
Maxr1998but on code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com there aren't even sources for the bq EX.X devices20:13
popeydobey: it is on external display20:13
dobeysure20:13
popeywhich is what he was talking about - convergent x apps etc20:13
dobeybut i guess i could plug it into my 4k monitor too20:13
krijn_well, the odd thing is that it wouldn't according to the internal info, but the displays (tried two) both said they were running in native 1080-mode20:14
krijn_a 4k monitor said 1080 too20:14
krijn_but i must say that without a bt mouse i haven't really dug deeper (athough I could've used ssh i guess). It was quickly done at work20:15
krijn_trying different monitors20:15
bubbleswith enough googlefu I was able to get flyme installed, thanks for the assistance and have a great day all20:23
taiebotHi everyone has anyone got the stats on the lock screen working ? Never been bothered to report it but it has not been working for  months.20:58
dobeyworks here21:00
pmcgowantaiebot, do you see nothing on the greeter or you see the circle without stats?21:06
taiebotpmcgowan: i see the circle but nothing no decorations and the the string for the numbers are alway set to 021:07
pmcgowanhmm21:08
taiebotpmcgowan i have a crash for usermetrics service in /var/crash21:08
pmcgowantaiebot, I wonder if it always crashes, is the service running?21:09
taiebotpmcgowan it has not worked for like almost 4 months and  i am running rc-proposed on nexus 421:09
pmcgowantaiebot, I just found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libusermetrics/+bug/137250221:12
ubot5Launchpad bug 1372502 in libusermetrics (Ubuntu) "usermetrics stopped working some time ago due to wrong group for files" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:12
taiebotpmcgowan: might do the workaround and report if it starts working21:14
pmcgowanyep21:14
pmcgowanwe don't know why those ownerships can change21:14
taiebotpmcgowan: would it be because of forced restart of phone during the apparmor rebuild?21:16
pmcgowantaiebot, no idea really but the apparmor profiles seem quite separate21:16
taiebotpmcgowan: yeah it worked got one notification working21:19
pmcgowantaiebot, ok, well someday maybe we will figure out how that happens21:19
pmcgowanits rare enough but has hit multiple people21:19
taiebotpmcgowan following https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/1332538/comments/5 .  this is my /var/log permissions http://pastebin.com/Le0Un4y021:27
ubot5Launchpad bug 1332538 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "No UID checks on rootfs updates" [Critical,Fix released]21:27
pmcgowanyeesh21:28
pmcgowantaiebot, so something in an update back in sept screwed up the ownerships21:30
pmcgowants like the mapping of the users changed21:30
pmcgowanOh i see, so it did get fixed right after that21:31
taiebotpmcgowan: is there "the way" it should be somewhere ?21:31
pmcgowantaiebot, this is my mx4 http://paste.ubuntu.com/15330496/21:33
taiebotpmcgowan: could i also asked you for the /var/lib permissions ?21:38
pmcgowanone sec21:38
pmcgowanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15330527/21:39
taiebotpmcgowan it is also different :-(21:40
taiebothttp://pastebin.com/PxXeE9EL21:41
pmcgowanyeesh again21:42
pmcgowanhopefully only a few phones using proposed got hit with that21:42
taiebotpmcgowan lightdm has very weird permission drwxr-x---  6 systemd-timesync lxc-dnsmasq  4096 Jun 10  2014 lightdm21:42
pmcgowanindeed seems random21:42
mariogripdobey: I fixed the n5 issue22:26
dobeymariogrip: sweet22:53
dobeymariogrip: what was it?22:53
mariogripheader missmatch22:53
dobeyah22:54
mariogripbuilding images now, should be up in about 10 mins22:54
dobeyawesome22:54
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mariogripdobey: Is there something else i should take a look at while im on the device? (bt is known)23:04
dobeymariogrip: gps doesn't work either; but bt is the big one i think23:09
mariogripok, I will take a look at them23:09

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