[00:40] <timeax> Hello is there somebody awake?
[00:45] <lpotter> sometimes
[00:46] <timeax> Hi :)
[00:47] <timeax> I tryed the guide linked in the topic for the ubuntu touh porting on a new device
[00:48] <timeax> But when i the packages listed i'm having a problem
[00:48] <timeax> It says impossible to find mingw32 package
[00:48] <timeax> You know how can i solve that?
[00:51] <timeax> Ok no prob, its late, good night ppls ;)
[08:09] <[tj]> moin
[10:25] <keesj> Hi, do specific ports have a special irc channel?
[10:25] <davmor2> keesj: no
[10:29] <keesj> I would like to keep up (and help) on the FP2 port hence my question
[10:30] <keesj> (I am working at Fairphone)
[10:46] <MCMic> Will the hardware of the fairphone allow to use the convergence?
[10:54] <davmor2> keesj: this will be your best channel then I think
[11:00] <tvoss> keesj, you want to reach out to mariogrip
[11:01] <tvoss> keesj, oh, and welcome :)
[11:06] <keesj> MCMic: I am quite new to the Ubuntu-phone part (but long time ubuntu/linux user and of course embedded/android developer)
[11:07] <keesj> I don't know what specs are required for convergence
[11:07] <Stskeeps> keesj: mhl/slimport on fp2 ooi?
[11:09] <keesj> While the soc can support HDMI out (using an adapter) this won't work on FP2
[11:09] <Stskeeps> nod
[11:10] <keesj> we do have the standar otg port (and an additional usb port on the back) so perhaps something over usb can work
[11:11] <MCMic> keesj: And is that on a part that might be changed later on a fairphone? I know some ports are easily replaced.
[11:11] <keesj> for example there is an existing Linux video(webcam) gadget that we can try to hook up
[11:13] <keesj> MCMic: No, HDMI requires +5v out and we initially used that port to power the extension port
[11:14] <keesj> so .. enablind HDMI would require at least a new PCB respin (not something we are looking forward to doing any time soon)
[11:14] <MCMic> :-/
[11:40] <dpm> hi keesj
[11:42] <dpm> I think mariogrip had some issues which might be related to the kernel and wanted to reach out to you
[11:42] <dpm> I'm not sure he's had the time to yet, but I'm sure he'll reply when he's online
[11:42] <mariogrip> Yeah After blank() / setPower() (hwc) the display don’t want to wake up again.
[11:42] <dpm> there you go :)
[12:02] <victor_bq> Hi all!
[12:03] <victor_bq> I need some help
[12:03] <victor_bq> I've got a customer interested in UP, and he wants some hints about what is possible with it
[12:05] <victor_bq> he wants to know if is possible to create a script to manage hot-spot connection or create/config a phisical netwaork via USB-RJ45 adapter
[12:05] <victor_bq> =)
[12:07] <davmor2> victor_bq: hotspot only deals with naming and turning on and off, not much you can script there :)  As for usb-rj45 connector in theory it should just work but in all honesty I don't think anyone has tried it
[12:07] <mcphail> victor_bq: a script triggered by what? I don't think there is a mechanism for NFC/RFID or GPS triggers, for example
[12:12] <victor_bq> his first question was if it's possible to set up a 3G connection or a Wi-Fi AP with a script to use krillin as a wireless router
[12:12] <ogra_> sure, we ship nmcli
[12:13] <ogra_> weather there is a module for his USB ethernet adaptaer is another thing :)
[12:13] <victor_bq> he is a sys admin from a spanish company that wants to use some UP for IT solutions and is just asking some things :)
[12:14] <victor_bq> thanks @ogra
[12:14] <ogra_> well, worst case he acn always make the system writable or use an lxc container to get full ubuntu features
[12:14] <ogra_> *can
[12:14] <dpm> keesj, not sure if you saw mariogrip's reply? ^^
[12:15] <mariogrip> dpm: he haven't answer me on pm, so I guess he's offline
[12:17] <keesj> yea , I am not that great at IRC on such channels :P
[12:20] <keesj> mariogrip: do you mind if we use #fairphone-ubuntu or #fairphone-ubuntu-touch? (as to keep traffic low)
[12:20] <mariogrip> keesj: yeah, sure
[12:25] <keesj> what works for you
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-is-being-ported-to-sony-xperia-t2-ultra-android-phones-501471.shtml
[13:03] <popey> oh jeez
[13:04] <popey> adfad666: ^ I shared your screenshot, now you're in the news, sorry :)
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> lets hope more device will get the ubuntu bite :p
[13:21] <mariogrip> a new device just got delivered, a n5 :) dobey
[13:23] <popey> oooh
[13:38] <adfad666> Oops
[13:56] <popey> adfad666: no pressure ㋛
[14:15] <dobey> mariogrip: nice :)
[15:39] <ogra_> sil2100, i see a livecd-rootfs 2.382 package in the archive, but no release in the LP branch
[15:39] <ogra_> did you forget to debcommit/push ?
[15:40] <sil2100> Crap, didn't I bzr push it?
[15:40] <ogra_> deosnt look like ... can you ?
[15:40] <sil2100> Eh, sure, I had it in /tmp though so I'll just recreate the release commit
[15:41] <sil2100> Sorry about that, I was 100% sure I did a push
[15:41] <ogra_> yeah, happens :)
[15:41] <ogra_> (to me too ... :)
[15:42] <ogra_> thanks !
[15:46] <sil2100> yw! Will make sure that never happens again ;)
[15:47] <ogra_> lol
[15:47] <ogra_> dont make such promises ... it happens to me too every 10th time :)
[16:19] <mpt> jgdx, pmcgowan: fingerprint design done. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings?action=diff&rev2=74&rev1=73
[16:20] <mpt> I got sucked down rabbit holes of “we should always make you set a passcode” and “we should allow passcodes of more digits”, but this is the minimum change just for fingerprints
[16:23] <mpt> (and both of those, combined, lead to “passwords are just another kind of passcode” and “having a passcode without using it for unlocking is the same as having ‘Lock after auto-sleeping’ set to ‘Never’”, etc)
[16:25] <mpt> So there’s lots of other changes pending once fingerprint is done (which will, for example, solve the awkwardness of fingerprint ID assuming that you want a passcode and not a password)
[16:27] <pmcgowan> mpt, ok sounds good thanks, tvoss|lunch ^^
[17:07] <Maxr1998> timeax: I successfully built UTouch for mako without that package..
[18:18] <Facu> Hi all!
[18:18] <Facu> I'm trying to flash a device, but ubuntu-device-flash just hangs :/
[18:18] <Facu> this is the third time I run it, now I left it a couple of hours
[18:18] <Facu> see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15329318/
[18:18] <Facu> is there any way to make it show progress or something?
[18:19] <mterry> Mirv, re: bug 1552860, even in your new update, the qservicemanager_ipc is still marked as "failing in Ubuntu" -- do we know why?  Is it something we can fix?
[18:36] <bubbles> hi, trying to flash meizu mx4 in fastboot but keep getting <waiting for device> message in terminal?! think I am missing something crucial :p
[18:41] <bubbles> and "fastboot devices" gives me: no permissions	fastboot
[18:42] <genii> Use sudo
[18:43] <bubbles> >.<
[18:43] <bubbles> genii: thank you
[18:44] <bubbles> wouldn't believe I have been using ubuntu on and off since 6.06
[18:45]  * genii makes more coffee
[18:48] <dobey> you shouldn't need to use sudo to flash a device
[18:51] <genii> dobey: the fastboot command needs sudo
[18:52] <ogra_> genii, not if there is a proper entry in the udev file the fastboot package ships
[18:52] <dobey> yeah i've never used "sudo fastboot"
[18:53] <ogra_> but you also only use nexus devices :)
[18:53] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15329642/
[18:53] <dobey> i don't think i used sudo fastboot with the krillin either :)
[18:53] <ogra_> (from wily)
[18:54] <ogra_> the distro package has surely never been updated to have krillin in /lib/udev/rules.d/70-android-tools-fastboot.rules
[18:54] <genii> I haven't used it on wily, but in Trusty  and Vivid, fastboot complained unless sudo
[18:54] <dobey> anyway, chromium is really bad at history
[18:55] <ogra_> i think there was a ppa package that was kept up to date when the phonedations team still existed
[18:55] <ogra_> but i doubt anyone cared to land the changes in the archive after the team was gone
[19:02] <bubbles> could an issue with the udev file also cause issues when trying to sideload onto an MX4 with an "error: insufficient permissions for device" error?
[19:05] <ogra_> bubbles, is there already ubuntu on it ?
[19:05] <ogra_> (or was there ever)
[19:05] <bubbles> yes, trying to remove ubuntu actually :/
[19:05] <ogra_> ah
[19:06] <ogra_> no idea if that works, you most likely need a flash tool from meizu ... ubuntu uses different partitioning from android
[19:06] <ogra_> (so you need some factory tool the re-partitions the flash)
[19:07] <ogra_> s/the/that/
[19:08] <bubbles> I have already got the recovery working and as per a mail on the mailing list you can sideload flymeos ... but I keep getting the insufficient permissions error
[19:09] <dobey> bubbles: what are you trying to do? flash ubuntu? or flyme?
[19:11] <bubbles> flyme
[19:11] <bubbles> dobey: ^
[19:11] <dobey> i think maybe you need to contact meizu support then :)
[19:12] <bubbles> k, thanks
[19:47] <Maxr1998> is there already an ubuntu port with 64bit?
[19:47] <Maxr1998> and why is the android base for ubuntu touch still 4.4.2?
[19:48] <popey> not sure if the bq M10 is 64-bit or not
[19:49] <Maxr1998> yep, it is! you'Re right
[19:49] <Maxr1998> *re
[19:50] <dobey> the m10 is 64-bit
[19:51] <dobey> we use the 64-bit android container, but the ubuntu userland is still 32-bit on it
[19:51] <Maxr1998> ok
[19:51] <Maxr1998> thanks
[19:51] <Maxr1998> where do I find the sources for the 64bit container, or how do I set up a build environment for it?
[19:52] <dobey> and 5.x changed a lot of things. there's some work to move to 5.x, but it's not entirely complete yet
[19:52] <Maxr1998> thought that
[19:52] <dobey> i think the tablet is 5.x based though
[19:52] <Maxr1998> the renders show lollipop, yep
[19:53] <dobey> eh?
[19:54] <Maxr1998> the renders on the bq website
[19:54] <dobey> you mean the android version of the tablet?
[19:54] <dobey> i was talking about ubuntu
[19:55] <Maxr1998> yes
[19:56] <Maxr1998> What I wanted to say, the bq m10 started with android 5.X. So I guess Ubuntu Touch uses a 5.X container, because porting it to 4.4 would be.. erhm yeah
[20:06] <krijn_> hey guys (m/f ;) ) is there any way to get legacy apps running on a Nexus 4 now, the only thing which keeps on popping up are sites using the video on omgubuntu: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/02/ubuntu-convergence-x11-apps-video-demo
[20:06] <krijn_> but no where what omgubuntu calls "prepare some manual config files and use a series of arcane terminal commands"
[20:07] <popey> heh
[20:07] <popey> I don't think it's all documented well yet
[20:07] <krijn_> i was afraid so
[20:08] <krijn_> i was actually quite impressed with the performance on a 1080x1920 screen with a phone originating from 2012
[20:08] <krijn_> wanted to push the boundaries a bit ;)
[20:09] <dobey> krijn_: no, nothing has changed since yesterday
[20:11] <krijn_> ha, i didn't think so, but I didn't really push with my questions ;)
[20:12] <Maxr1998> is there already documentation or sources for the M10 up?
[20:12] <Maxr1998> from what I found, there isn't anything
[20:12] <dobey> and nexus 4 isn't 1080p either
[20:13] <Maxr1998> but on code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com there aren't even sources for the bq EX.X devices
[20:13] <popey> dobey: it is on external display
[20:13] <dobey> sure
[20:13] <popey> which is what he was talking about - convergent x apps etc
[20:13] <dobey> but i guess i could plug it into my 4k monitor too
[20:14] <krijn_> well, the odd thing is that it wouldn't according to the internal info, but the displays (tried two) both said they were running in native 1080-mode
[20:14] <krijn_> a 4k monitor said 1080 too
[20:15] <krijn_> but i must say that without a bt mouse i haven't really dug deeper (athough I could've used ssh i guess). It was quickly done at work
[20:15] <krijn_> trying different monitors
[20:23] <bubbles> with enough googlefu I was able to get flyme installed, thanks for the assistance and have a great day all
[20:58] <taiebot> Hi everyone has anyone got the stats on the lock screen working ? Never been bothered to report it but it has not been working for  months.
[21:00] <dobey> works here
[21:06] <pmcgowan> taiebot, do you see nothing on the greeter or you see the circle without stats?
[21:07] <taiebot> pmcgowan: i see the circle but nothing no decorations and the the string for the numbers are alway set to 0
[21:08] <pmcgowan> hmm
[21:08] <taiebot> pmcgowan i have a crash for usermetrics service in /var/crash
[21:09] <pmcgowan> taiebot, I wonder if it always crashes, is the service running?
[21:09] <taiebot> pmcgowan it has not worked for like almost 4 months and  i am running rc-proposed on nexus 4
[21:12] <pmcgowan> taiebot, I just found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libusermetrics/+bug/1372502
[21:14] <taiebot> pmcgowan: might do the workaround and report if it starts working
[21:14] <pmcgowan> yep
[21:14] <pmcgowan> we don't know why those ownerships can change
[21:16] <taiebot> pmcgowan: would it be because of forced restart of phone during the apparmor rebuild?
[21:16] <pmcgowan> taiebot, no idea really but the apparmor profiles seem quite separate
[21:19] <taiebot> pmcgowan: yeah it worked got one notification working
[21:19] <pmcgowan> taiebot, ok, well someday maybe we will figure out how that happens
[21:19] <pmcgowan> its rare enough but has hit multiple people
[21:27] <taiebot> pmcgowan following https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/1332538/comments/5 .  this is my /var/log permissions http://pastebin.com/Le0Un4y0
[21:28] <pmcgowan> yeesh
[21:30] <pmcgowan> taiebot, so something in an update back in sept screwed up the ownerships
[21:30] <pmcgowan> ts like the mapping of the users changed
[21:31] <pmcgowan> Oh i see, so it did get fixed right after that
[21:31] <taiebot> pmcgowan: is there "the way" it should be somewhere ?
[21:33] <pmcgowan> taiebot, this is my mx4 http://paste.ubuntu.com/15330496/
[21:38] <taiebot> pmcgowan: could i also asked you for the /var/lib permissions ?
[21:38] <pmcgowan> one sec
[21:39] <pmcgowan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15330527/
[21:40] <taiebot> pmcgowan it is also different :-(
[21:41] <taiebot> http://pastebin.com/PxXeE9EL
[21:42] <pmcgowan> yeesh again
[21:42] <pmcgowan> hopefully only a few phones using proposed got hit with that
[21:42] <taiebot> pmcgowan lightdm has very weird permission drwxr-x---  6 systemd-timesync lxc-dnsmasq  4096 Jun 10  2014 lightdm
[21:42] <pmcgowan> indeed seems random
[22:26] <mariogrip> dobey: I fixed the n5 issue
[22:53] <dobey> mariogrip: sweet
[22:53] <dobey> mariogrip: what was it?
[22:53] <mariogrip> header missmatch
[22:54] <dobey> ah
[22:54] <mariogrip> building images now, should be up in about 10 mins
[22:54] <dobey> awesome
[23:04] <mariogrip> dobey: Is there something else i should take a look at while im on the device? (bt is known)
[23:09] <dobey> mariogrip: gps doesn't work either; but bt is the big one i think
[23:09] <mariogrip> ok, I will take a look at them