[03:01] <mapps> gah i hate these stone floors
[03:01] <mapps> cant seem to keep them clean ;/
[03:01] <daftykins> cover 'em in newspaper :D
[03:04] <mapps> every single day just dust and dirt, i wear fliflops around as the floor gets cold
[03:04] <mapps> maybe i should get slippers
[03:08] <mappps> daftykins,  reckon uk leaves eu
[03:08] <mappps> ?
[03:08] <mappps> talk about if the uk does..spain might a) close the border or b) take control of gib
[03:09] <mappps> if border was closed..well loads of people couldnt get to work..and well couldnt get anything in here, would ruin gib
[03:09] <daftykins> couldn't care less, i'm in neither :)
[03:09] <mappps> most restaurants/bars have spanish workers
[03:09] <mappps> o
[03:10] <mappps> i thought it said it could affect you too though due to special concessions places get due to uk being in eu
[03:10] <mappps> would go
[03:12] <daftykins> *shrug*
[03:13] <daftykins> no, we're outside of the EU so anyone here trading with EU countries has to go to extra lengths to do so i think
[03:14] <mappps> ah
[04:00] <mappps> hm
[04:00] <mappps> ive got a headache;/
[05:21] <mappps> hm bit tired, slee time for me
[05:21] <mappps> ;D
[07:42] <knightwise> good morning peeps
[08:48] <\sve> Mornin
[09:04] <knightwise> so .. SQL is on linux now
[09:05] <davmor2> knightwise: MSSQL we've had SQL on Linux for an age :P
[09:05] <davmor2> morning all
[09:06] <knightwise> indeed
[09:06] <knightwise> good morning davmor2
[10:00] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:26] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Tuesday, and happy International Women's Day! 😃
[10:26] <davmor2> JamesTait: not goth day then
[10:26] <davmor2> JamesTait: and welcome back slacker
[10:26] <JamesTait> Hey, I travelled half way around the world to do your job for you. 😝
[10:27] <davmor2> JamesTait: no you didn't, You really, really didn't :P
[10:29] <JamesTait> I make it, you break it, right? 😃
[10:34] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqrk3DXV9go
[10:39] <JamesTait> That'll do. ☺
[11:30] <n1md4> morning!
[11:31] <n1md4> I've recently installed Ubuntu with encryption using the installer, to a 480G SSD.  I have just noticed not all the disk was used.  443.2G / and 4G swap.  Any idea what's going on here?  Looks too large to be a round issue.
[11:33] <brobostigon> what does fdisk/gparted say about it?
[11:35] <n1md4> fdisk gave me those numbers
[11:35] <davmor2> n1md4: encrypted home or encrypted lvm?
[11:36] <n1md4> home
[11:36] <n1md4> ah, parted reports 476GB
[11:36] <n1md4> still think that's quite a large rounding difference, but suppose I could do the maths.
[11:37] <brobostigon> how can you just have encrypted /home when /home on / and not seperate, mustnt that mean then the whole of / is encrypted?
[11:38] <davmor2> brobostigon: it uses ecryptfs for home folder
[11:39] <brobostigon> ah.
[11:39] <davmor2> brobostigon: it is done so you can have separate keys per user
[11:39] <brobostigon> i see, :)
[11:40] <davmor2> brobostigon: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/ecryptfs.html
[11:40] <brobostigon> thank you.
[12:05] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[12:06] <brobostigon> hi knightwise
[15:15] <diddledan> microsoft is getting silly - they've joined the eclipse foundation (people holding the Eclipse IDE) https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2016/03/08/microsoft-joins-the-eclipse-foundation/
[15:16] <davmor2> diddledan: they are trying to be Linux and get everywhere :)
[15:26] <agoodm> hello all, how can I permanently disable mouse acceleration for a usb mouse but not my trackpad device (laptop computer with 15.10) ive managed this previously on 14.04lts but cant recall how I did it?
[15:27] <agoodm> I can do it temporarilly by running xset m 00 in a terminal but it gets tiring
[15:32] <n1md4> agoodm: open mouse and touchpad setting.  On my install there are separate mouse and touchpad speeds.  You have those?
[15:33] <n1md4> my install is wily
[15:34] <agoodm> n1md4, I have mouse and touchpad speed, but I seem to be getting acceleration no matter where I set the pointer speed sliders
[15:49] <n1md4> Oh, can't help you there then.
[15:49] <n1md4> Sorry.
[15:51] <MagicSponge> http://ubuntuonair.com/ IN ten minutes.
[17:52] <Laney> anyone know about PCI DSS or similar?
[17:53] <Laney> Company wants me to write my credit card number on a pdf form and then email it to them
[17:53] <Laney> don't really want to do that...
[18:04] <davmor2> Laney: then send a cheque
[18:05] <Laney> yes thanks I can think of workarounds
[18:05] <Laney> I want to make an argument that they should stop asking for this
[18:55] <awilkins> Well i) Plain email is a transparent protocol. You'll be giving your CC no. to every server that email crosses
[18:56] <popey> (I think he knows this)
[18:57] <StevenR_> Laney: you might violate your CC Ts&Cs by doing that (the CC co expect you to take reasonable care of your CC details)
[18:58] <StevenR_> Laney: so by sending the CC number in plain... you're failing to take due care of your card details.
[18:59] <Laney> nice
[18:59] <Laney> I think I can say that it violates PCI DSS requirements to transmit details in plain text
[18:59] <Laney> not quite clear to me yet if those are mandatory though
[19:00] <Laney> think it's part of the contract with the card service provider
[19:00] <StevenR_> Laney: I suspect that it doesn't violate PCI DSS because the risk is on you, not the merchant in this case.
[19:01] <StevenR_> Laney: so the merchant is not implicated in this case, because they're not doing the transmitting.
[19:01] <diddledan> Laney, AFAIK PCI DSS is a requirement for _any_ company that handles credit card details themselves - using paypal means you don't need to comply becasue paypal collect the details directly in that case (e.g.)
[19:01] <Laney> StevenR_: They are receiving my details unencrypted
[19:02] <diddledan> StevenR_, a company is required to ensure that transmission and storage of credit card details they collect be secure, I believe
[19:02] <Laney> diddledan: ok, then in that case they do need to comply
[19:03] <diddledan> I believe PCI DSS mandates HTTPS for webforms for example
[19:03] <Laney> I reckon they've sent me me a PDF of the same form that customers that visit them in the outlet have to fill in with pen & paper
[19:03] <Laney> I wonder if *that* is also a violation
[19:04] <Laney> or if they put (for example) it in a locked cabinet it would be okay
[19:04] <diddledan> I bet they're printing it out :-p
[19:05] <Laney> probably a stack of them goes to the back office for the administrator to type into some other form to charge people
[19:05] <Laney> (and then when they go rogue to snaffle the details from)
[19:06]  * StevenR_ hates over-the-phone CC transactions.
[19:06] <diddledan> new version of chrome https://youtu.be/GNP-_ncY3ZA?list=PLNYkxOF6rcIDfz8XEA3loxY32tYh7CI3m
[19:06] <diddledan> StevenR_, me too
[19:06] <diddledan> I much prefer to use the internet if I can help it
[19:07] <diddledan> I trust the SSL mechanism much more than reading a number loud enough for my neighbour to hear
[19:07] <Laney> always fun when they read it aloud back to you
[19:07] <Laney> "umm, could you just type it in silently please?"
[19:14] <zmoylan-pi> just don't do over the phone cc on hands free on public transport and you'll be grand... :-)
[20:11] <MagicSponge> Sup. Any Thome York fans out there .. ?
[20:46] <daftykins> Radiohead guy? never really looked
[21:25] <diddledan> watching the first ep of quantico - completely blew my expectations straight away
[21:27] <MagicSponge> diddledan: That thing on Sky ? I think I missed it last time I looked.
[21:27] <diddledan> no idea where it's being broadcast :-p
[21:27] <daftykins> :D
[21:27] <daftykins> lawl broadcast
[21:28] <diddledan> nzbdrone ftw
[21:28] <daftykins> paying the wrong people, eww
[22:16] <lanamana> well hello
[22:17] <daftykins> hi
[22:20] <zmoylan-pi> flippin drive hi's...
[22:21] <daftykins> ikr
[22:34]  * diddledan drives past and fires a barrage of drive-by "hi" bullets
[22:35] <diddledan> don't you love that we have a common phrase that is derived directly from murderous gangs?
[22:36] <daftykins> 'tis a fine sign!
[23:39] <diddledan> mouldy bread :-(
[23:39] <diddledan> it's green
[23:39] <diddledan> bread isn't supposed to be green IIRC
[23:45] <diddledan> on the plus side, free penicilin
[23:51] <n1md4> evening.  is it possible to 'encrypt' an image?
[23:51] <diddledan> yes.
[23:52] <n1md4> what's the tool?  I've searched a bit, but can't find.
[23:52] <diddledan> many.
[23:52] <diddledan> you could use GPG
[23:53] <n1md4> hmm, yes.  I was playing around with GPG on text files, and decided without checking that it couldn't do images .... doh!  Thanks :)
[23:53] <diddledan> gpg can encrypt anything