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chesedomorning all04:35
Kilosguten morgen05:17
magespawngood morning05:36
Kiloshi magespawn inetpro theblazehen 05:36
theblazehenMorning Kilos05:36
magespawnsuperfly: i will post the full error message when i can, it is on a friends pc, it is somewhere else at the moment05:42
* magespawn has been readin chat from yesterday05:43
Kiloslol05:43
inetprogood mornings05:51
inetprooh and hi oom Kilos05:51
Kiloshehe05:52
Kiloshi Wolfeyes Xsm 05:53
CryterionMornings05:53
Kiloshi Cryterion 05:53
Wolfeyesmorning Kilos, Cryterion05:56
Kilosdont forget inetpro he sulks05:56
inetprono, no oom Kilos, that is uncalled for05:57
Wolfeyesmorning inetpro05:57
Wolfeyeslol05:57
inetprogood mornings Wolfeyes05:57
Kiloshee hee05:57
Kilossometimes i remember things05:58
Kilos* inetpro enjoys poking fun at oom Kilos05:58
inetproai!05:58
* inetpro had coffee already05:59
Kilosoh06:00
Kilosdoes that make you sensitive06:00
* Kilos stops teasing now06:01
inetproexactly06:02
Kilossorry my pro06:02
Kilosseems my telkom connection is fixed06:09
Kilosquite funny how the help desk is programmed to always try and find and error on your side first06:10
Kilosteiing them you have 2 pcs, a tablet and a few cells all using diferent sims but having the same problem seems to bypass that part of every discussion06:11
SquirmMorning06:16
Wolfeyes heya Squirm06:18
Wolfeyeslol 2 telkom06:18
Wolfeyes@*06:19
Kiloshi Squirm 06:20
dlPhreakMorning06:28
Kiloshi dlPhreak 06:29
dlPhreakKilos hello06:29
Wolfeyesheya dlPhreak06:30
dlPhreakHi Wolfeyes. How are you all doing today?06:30
WolfeyesAs Kilos would say, "as I please".  :-P06:31
Kilosas i please06:31
Kilosai!06:31
Wolfeyesha ha ha06:31
dlPhreakThat's a good motto. Do as thou wilt.06:31
Kilosi was trying to rmembe how to spell please06:31
WolfeyesDon't worry inetpro we get to tease him now a bit. lol06:31
WolfeyesLovely weather we got today too.06:33
WolfeyesPerfect for seeing clients and I don't need to see clients.06:34
Kilosfinish the server06:34
dlPhreakWhat sort of weather is that, Wolfeyes ?06:35
Kiloshey Wolfeyes when are you going to join us?06:35
Kiloswork weather06:35
WolfeyesOvercast and cool.06:35
dlPhreakWe have the nicest drizzle right now.06:35
WolfeyesJoin you?What  you mean?06:35
WolfeyesWe need the rain badly dlPhreak, haven't had this side yet.06:36
Kiloshttps://ubuntu-za.org and see the get involved link06:36
Kilosyou can join ubuntu-za on launchpad06:36
Kiloswe even have a wiki link i can never find06:38
Kiloshey dlPhreak have you joined yet?06:38
dlPhreakI'm on the mailling list?06:40
Wolfeyeslol @ never find.06:41
Kilosoh yay06:41
dlPhreakI'd like to do more but I hardly get the time to do anything anymore.06:41
Kilosno excuse man you have been joining for years06:41
Kilosthere is no work to do06:42
Kilosjust to be counted is what counts06:42
dlPhreakI can chat but to involve myself in a large project if I don't know I can complete it is not something I'd like to do.06:42
Kilosno need06:42
Kiloslarge projects are on backburners atm06:43
Kiloseveryone is busy06:43
Kilosexcept me06:43
KilosMaaz google buntu-za wiki06:44
MaazKilos: "Bunt (baseball) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunt_(baseball) :: "Bunt (community) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunt_(community) :: "Bunty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunty :: "ZATeam - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ :: "LoCoCouncil -06:44
MaazUbuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil :: "edX Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit Installatio…06:44
Kilosai!06:44
KilosMaaz google ubuntu-za wiki06:44
MaazKilos: "ZATeam - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ :: "Kilos - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos :: "Ubuntu-ZA: Welcome to the local Ubuntu community" https://ubuntu-za.org/ :: "Maties Ubuntu" http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/ :: "Ubuntu Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Party :: "Ubuntu - Wikipedia, the free06:44
Maazencyclopedia" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu :: "Ubuntu (philosophy) - Wikipedia, t…06:44
Kilosthere it is , top one06:45
Kilosyou gotta know how to edit that to add yourself so more learning06:46
Kiloshehe06:46
Kilosi find it easy, i ask inetpro to do it for me06:46
Kilosthen he puts up an hours arguments before doing it06:48
mazalMornings06:48
Kiloshi mazal 06:48
mazalGaanit oom06:48
Kilosredelik goed dankie en jy seun06:48
mazalGaan maar aan dankie06:48
* mazal still without connectivity at home :(06:49
Kiloscomplain06:50
mazalDoesn't help06:50
mazalTried already06:50
Kilosnever stop complaining till its fixed06:50
Kilosnee man06:50
Kiloslisten06:50
Kilosleer nou iets06:50
mazalThere is no technitian available , is all they tell me06:51
Kilosthe have a man on twitter06:51
Kilosthey06:51
Kilosyou tweet him and he gets to nag them06:51
KilosMaaz google telkom on twitter06:52
MaazKilos: "Telkom (@TelkomZA) | Twitter" https://twitter.com/telkomza?lang=en :: "Telkom Care (@TelkomCare) | Twitter" https://twitter.com/telkomcare :: "Telkom Indonesia (@TelkomIndonesia) | Twitter" https://twitter.com/telkomindonesia :: "HelloTelkom (@HelloTelkom) | Twitter" https://twitter.com/hellotelkom :: "Telkom South Africa (@TelkomRSA) | Twitter"06:52
Maazhttps://twitter.com/telkomrsa :: "Telkom Group (@Telkom) | Twitter" https://twitter.com/telkom :: "T…06:52
mazalAfter Telkom retrencements the whole of Cullinan and rayton have only 1 technitian now. And he can't help me. I must wait for cable guys from PTA06:52
Kilosnever accept what you hear from help desks unless they fix it06:52
Kilosoh my06:53
mazalIt took 5 days for that 1 guy to come look , only to tell me the cable is broken will have to wait for PTA guys. No cable guys here06:53
mazalIt's been another 5 days now waiting for that , still no word06:54
mazalIt takes them 3 days just to forward the call to someone06:54
Kilosthen find out how to contact the pta heads and ask06:54
Kilosnever give up man06:54
Kiloshi thatgraemeguy 06:55
mazalI already spoke to the technitian yesterday , from Thursday last week until yesterday he haven't even recieved the call yet06:55
mazalBeen a long time since I saw something as pathetic as this06:55
Kiloswho has to call him06:56
Kilosnag that person untill he does it just to get you off his back06:56
Kilosfind solutions not problems06:57
mazalI don't know who to talk to anymore06:58
Kilostweet them and that guy takes over the following up06:58
Kilosoh06:58
Kilosthere is another way06:59
Kilosemail the ceo 06:59
mazalI've been wanting to put something on HelloPeter , but they don't care about that06:59
Kilosgetting waves from the top down seems to work well06:59
mazalLemme go put on HP , let's see what they respond07:00
KilosMaaz google telkomza ceo email address07:00
MaazKilos: "Telkom SA (Ltd) | South African Government" http://www.gov.za/about-government/contact-directory/organisation/672/26 :: "Management Team - Telkom" https://www.telkom.co.za/sites/aboutus/companyinfo/companymanagement/managementteam/ :: "TELKOM SA SOC LTD | Who's Who SA" http://whoswho.co.za/TELKOM-SA-SOC-LTD :: "Telkom (South Africa) - Wikipedia, the free07:00
Maazencyclopedia" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telkom_(South_Africa) :: "Masicorp - our team" …07:00
anton_mayEllo all07:05
Kiloshi anton_may 07:05
anton_mayquick question anybody had success with Yowsup?07:06
Kilosyoull need to wait to see if anyone has07:06
Kilosthey are all busy07:06
anton_mayYea no probs07:07
Kiloswhat is it supposed to do that it isnt doing07:07
anton_mayPython app that connects to whatsapp07:07
anton_mayvia cli07:07
anton_mayWant to integrate with Nagios07:08
anton_mayhttp://www.unixmen.com/send-nagios-alert-notification-using-whatsapp/07:08
Kilossjoe07:09
Kilosi tried whatsapp in pidgin, what a schlep07:10
Kilosnow use telegram07:10
anton_mayLoL, yea I saw you can do that, just better to use the web interface\07:10
thatgraemeguytelegram is all good and well but I'm not going to even try to convince hundreds of people to switch it just isn't doable07:11
Kilosthats the prob07:11
anton_mayYea, so far it's only me and the missus on telegram07:11
thatgraemeguyI have friend groups, family groups, work colleagues groups, kids' school groups, neighbourhood watch groups....... literally hundreds of people. it just isn't happening07:13
Kiloseish07:13
Squirmsuperfly: Hello to an almost neighbour :D07:17
mazaloom Kilos07:58
Kilosja mazal 08:02
mazalThis is response on my HelloPeter complaint:08:02
mazalGood Morning08:02
mazal 08:02
mazalThe fault is currently awaiting the dispatch of the next available technician.08:02
mazalA escalation has been sent with a copy of your complaint to our assigners for urgent assistance , escalation ref :  REF NO : 860008:02
Kilossigh08:02
mazalBasically the same as I told me over the phone , only difference is now I have an escelation ref , for whatever that is worth08:02
Kilosall about priorities08:02
Kilosthe more complaints the more it lifts the priority08:03
mazalThis is a direct result of bad management retrencing technitians causing lack of technitians to support the network. All so that managers can get higher salaries08:03
Kilosyes that was a crazy move on their part08:04
Kiloshow long now youve had no connection?08:04
mazalCorrupt management , makes me sick08:04
mazal10 days08:04
mazalMorning thatgraemeguy , anton_may , Squirm , and every one else I missed08:05
thatgraemeguy'lo08:06
SquirmHey mazal08:19
Squirmand thatgraemeguy08:19
thatgraemeguyg'day08:19
Wolfeyeshey mazal thatgraemeguy08:45
mazalHi Wolfeyes08:45
Kilosaw09:04
Kilosoh so quick in and out09:04
Kiloshmm...09:04
anton_mayAWESOME!!!! Can send whatsapp via cli09:06
anton_mayI see you can also use telegram09:06
Kilosall cli?09:08
Kiloseish09:08
anton_mayyip09:08
Kilosi like to see things09:08
Kilospidgin and telegram-desktop lekker for me09:09
anton_maynow just copy the yowsup to nagios, add it to the commands.cfg, add the contact and et voila09:09
Kiloswell done09:09
anton_mayonly problem is when whatsapp updates will ned to clone yowsup09:10
Kilosi have many workspaces so i got place to run giu things09:10
Kilosoh my09:10
anton_maybut will see how it goes09:10
mazalHaven't used whatsapp in a long time. Removed it from my phone09:11
Kilosdo a write up on how to do it so you can share with new peeps trying09:11
dlPhreakKilos: how do I reply to the newsletter?09:14
Kiloscarefully and gracefully09:15
Kiloshehe09:15
Kilosnews letter from where?09:15
dlPhreakMailling list09:15
Kilosoh09:15
Kilosclick the reply button09:15
dlPhreakI'm not sure on how to reply to a specific message.09:15
Kilosis it online or in your mail client09:16
dlPhreakIt's in gmail.09:16
Kilosi use thunderbird client here on pop so have all reply and forward button at hand09:17
Kilosi dont like using gmail online09:17
dlPhreakI just want to respond to "[ubuntu-za] Advice please - Dell laptop"09:17
Kilosmust be someone else that knows gmail online better09:18
Kilosoh09:18
dlPhreakIs there a protocol to follow when responding ?09:18
Kilosto jan09:18
Kilosno just give him the info09:18
Kilosor tell him to come here09:18
Kilosthe right way is to bottom ost but many peeps top post and others inline09:19
dlPhreakOh well it's fine.09:19
Kilosimportant thing is to give him the info09:19
dlPhreakI just wanted to tell him that dell xps shipss with ubuntu. That's what I have.09:19
dlPhreakPretty neat little machine.09:20
dlPhreak13" so very portable.09:20
Kilosanton already did09:20
Kilosthere is a list of dell ubuntu lappys the mail says09:21
dlPhreakYeah I thought someone might have that why I usually don't.09:21
Kiloshe is langjan that comes here now and again09:21
anton_mayYip send him the link for Dell with Ubuntu pre installed09:21
Kilosso a friend09:21
Kilosty anton_may 09:21
anton_maymp09:21
anton_maynp09:21
dlPhreakI absolutely love mine.09:22
dlPhreakAlthough I don't use ubuntu lol09:22
dlPhreakarch all the way!09:22
Kilosoh well09:23
anton_maybeen running mint 17 and running fine on my Dell i3. Needed to ump the mem to 8Gig though09:23
Kilosxome people like almonds09:23
anton_maylol09:23
Kilossome even drink whisky09:24
Kiloseeeew09:24
anton_maywhats wrong with Whiskey? Mothers milk09:24
dlPhreakHave you every tried Elementary, Kilos ?09:24
Kilosimportant thing is if you use any linux distro you not all bad09:24
Kilosyes09:24
Kiloselementary was cool09:24
anton_mayHave they sorted their eufi out?09:24
dlPhreakPoor man's OSX they say. Load of rubbish.09:25
dlPhreakNothing poor about Elementary.09:25
anton_mayNope very nice OS, eye candy delux09:26
Kilosgonna take something really great to lure me from kde09:27
dlPhreakAwesomeWM, Kilos 09:27
Kilosbento  is also nice, and much faster than unity and kde09:28
Kilosopenbox on ubuntu so same repos09:28
Kiloshave that running in 14.04 on a 32 bit pc09:28
Kilosopenbox is light09:29
dlPhreakLook at reddit.com/r/unixporn A lot of very nice screenshots.09:30
iqbalhi09:49
Kiloshi iqbal 09:49
iqbalhow's it going?09:49
dlPhreakhello iqbal 09:49
iqbalhi09:50
iqbaldownloading Libre Office 5.109:51
Wolfeyestoday is going to be one of those days09:58
dlPhreakWolfeyes: owhat does that mean?09:59
Kiloswhat did i miss09:59
WolfeyesWanted to work on the server and just not touching sides with other work.10:00
mazalmaaz what's for lunch ?10:07
Maazmazal: A bowl of miso soup and noodles10:07
mazaluhmm.......o10:07
mazalnope10:07
Kilosai!10:10
KilosMaaz whats for lunch10:10
MaazFish and chips always goes down well Kilos10:10
Kilosj10:10
Kilosja10:10
KilosMaaz botsnack10:11
MaazYAY someone cares about me too!10:11
Kilosi wonder who added miso soup10:12
KilosMaaz wat eet ons10:12
MaazRys vleis en aartapels10:12
Kilosnou praat ons10:12
* chesedo het nie geweet rys het vleis nie :P10:22
Kiloshuh10:23
chesedorys vleis10:23
Kiloswatse boerseun is jy10:23
chesedodaar staan nie `rys, vleis` (kort koma)10:24
Kilosoh should be rys, vleis10:24
Kilosai!10:24
mazalAg no man , no maak julle my honger ! :P10:24
mazalmaaz is all your fault10:25
chesedomaar ek is n staakse boer seun in elk geval10:25
KilosMaaz wat eet ons10:25
MaazKilos: wat eet ons is Rys, vleis, aartapel en ander groente ook10:25
Kilosai!10:25
chesedolol10:26
KilosMaaz wat eet ons10:26
MaazRys, vleis, aartapel en ander groente ook10:26
mazalGreat , except the groente deel10:26
Kilosnou ja10:26
Kilosveggies are actually more important than the meat10:27
mazalnever !!!10:27
mazalOnly veggies I eat is mielies10:28
Kiloswell we see who lives the longest10:28
Kilosspinach bredie10:28
Kilospumpkin10:28
Kilosbutternut10:28
anton_maymmmmm........food!!!10:28
Kiloscoleslaw10:28
anton_mayTyd vir Rocomama's10:29
superflySquirm: hey! where are you now?10:56
Kilosai!11:30
Squirm'lo11:30
Kilostelkom still battling11:30
Kilosohi superfly 11:30
superflyhi Kilos11:31
Kiloswhen it works its faster but keeps disconnecting11:31
Kiloshttp://www.speedtest.net/my-result/514976272811:31
thatgraemeguyhttp://www.speedtest.net/my-result/514994804811:56
thatgraemeguy:D11:56
Kilosholy smokes11:56
Kilosfibre?11:56
Kilosyou guys are spoiled11:57
magespawnsome are maybe11:59
* anton_may sighs12:13
Kiloswhat12:13
anton_mayThat speed, we only have a 10 meg and then I have to setup simple ques to even less, 4 megs :(12:15
Kilossjoe12:15
anton_maywell at least it's a 10 meg fibre12:16
anton_mayso its 4 up and down12:16
Kilosthats good man12:16
Kilosat times i battle to get 2mb/s download12:16
WolfeyesThat's crazy thatgraemeguy, at least you not battling.12:17
anton_mayyip, at least on fridays i open the line for mysql for the rugby muwahahahaha12:17
Kiloslol12:17
Wolfeyeslol12:17
thatgraemeguyfibre at the office yes12:17
thatgraemeguyvery depressing to have to download something at home :D12:17
Kiloshaha12:18
thatgraemeguyalthough I seldom need to download anything significant so it's not a constant hassle at least12:18
Kilos ballie nap time12:20
* Squirm lewks around12:48
Squirmthatgraemeguy, Kilos: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/515005950012:49
SquirmAlso at the office though12:49
thatgraemeguyyeah I don't live in a larney fibre area yet :'(12:50
Squirmthatgraemeguy: yeah :/ Trying to get lightspeed FTTH. There' Fibre in the next road12:50
SquirmBut they need R20k uptake in business to get it in my road12:50
thatgraemeguytime to move :D12:51
MaNImake friends with someone in the other road, install a high speed wireless link between your premises, sell to rest of your street for profit :p12:53
SquirmMaNI: I know12:53
SquirmI'm keen :D12:53
thatgraemeguyand then use high-speed internet to bitch and moan on social media about the state of crime in SA, without a hint of irony.... :-o12:54
SquirmThe problem is, lightspeed is the only affordable Fibre12:54
SquirmSo it's either them, or a 4mbit adsl line :/12:54
thatgraemeguyno vdsl?12:55
thatgraemeguyI can get vdsl but meh...12:55
SquirmIt's not affordable :/12:56
thatgraemeguyyeah same reason i'm sitting on 2M12:56
thatgraemeguyi can't justify spending more in internet access than i already am12:56
SquirmI think Fibre is cheaper, because you can drop the R180 voice fee from Telkom12:57
anton_mayBOOOOMMMM Nagios sending notifications via whatsapp12:57
SquirmHaha12:58
SquirmYeah, I saw an article on how to do that12:58
anton_mayneed some tweaks12:58
thatgraemeguynext step: get it to process acknowledgements/delay notification/schedule downtime when you reply12:59
anton_mayoooohhhh might try that12:59
magespawnchat later, home time, bye14:26
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* Kilos wavesto the crowd16:04
Kilossupper time17:00
Wolfeyes wb Cryterion17:13
Cryteriontks17:18
Wolfeyesyw17:18
Kiloshmm...17:38
Cryterionlooks quiet here tonight, rain must be getting to everyone17:47
Kilosaw17:47
Kilosnothing here yet but we are hoping17:48
Cryterionhaven't have much, been drizzle most of the day, nothing heavy17:48
Cryterionbut that water will just got out to sea soon anyway, beach is about 2km from me17:49
Kilosai!17:49
Kilossend some here17:49
CryterionI'll tell it, hope it listens17:50
Kiloslol ty17:50
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Wolfeyeshey pavlushka18:31
Wolfeyeshey Na3iL18:31
pavlushkaWolfeyes, Hi18:31
Na3iLHey Wolfeyes 18:32
WolfeyesI see everyone else ran away.18:33
KilosWolfeyes Na3iL is in tunisia18:33
Wolfeyesoh wow18:33
KilosNa3iL Wolfeyes is my son18:33
Wolfeyes:-P18:33
Na3iLah nice to meet you Wolfeyes :D18:33
Wolfeyespleasure to meet you too Na3iL.18:34
Na3iL:D thanks 18:34
WolfeyesWhat work you do Na3iL?18:35
Na3iLI currently study but I work as a freelancer 18:35
WolfeyesDoing what exactly? and studying for what if I may ask?18:36
KilosWolfeyes he has done lots of work on the africa wiki page for me18:36
WolfeyesThat's pretty generous. 18:37
WolfeyesYou building up favours Kilos lol.18:37
Kilosubuntu peeps all help each other18:37
Kiloslol most watch me battling then take over so there is less to fix later18:38
Na3iLWolfeyes, I study in IT fields and more especially in networking and security18:39
Xsmha ha ha ha18:39
Na3iLI work as a SysAdmin freelancer 18:39
XsmThat's awesome Na3iL, would love to take a course or two myself in networking, just to have the papers behind me.18:40
Na3iLYep you can Xsm :D You have the internet 18:41
XsmJust out of curiousity, has anyone ever made a business plan here?18:43
Kilosbed time for me19:14
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:14
Xsmsuperfly: http://bin.snyman.info/mmmgk36s like this?21:14
superflyit's been a long time since I've looked at BIND's config, but that looks right21:15
Xsmawesome, I tested it too and got no conflicts21:16
XsmNext step to do, superfly please...21:17
superflywell, all the computers in your network should be able to browse the Internet. then you know it's working21:17
superflyXsm: probably squid, for caching and restricted internet access21:17
Xsmsuperfly: which would come first the firewall or squid, they both installed but not configured?21:18
superflyfirst qhere?21:18
superfly*where21:18
XsmServer for configuring.21:18
superflyoh, configured. probably squid21:18
XsmI am thinking firewall for ssh21:18
Xsmoh21:18
superflythen you need to set up your routing21:18
Xsmlet me have a look and see if the internal computers can connect, then I'll move onto squid.21:20

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