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clivejobang!00:00
mamarleyclivejo: My initial impression is that Plasma 5.5.5 is working great!  Plasma and kwin start and screen locking works.02:11
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mparillomamarley: How are you getting 5.5.5? I have the Xenial PPA-Landing, just checked for updates, and I am still on 5.5.410:27
soeemparillo: it is in staging i think10:35
soeemparillo: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.series_filter=xenial10:35
soeeand 5.5.5 needs to be tested, so if you can please do :)10:35
soeeppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma10:36
soeeclivejo: you could also ping testers10:39
mparilloSo on Landing, there is only one big PPA (either ppa-landing for development release, or backports-ppa for backports), but in Staging, there are three separate PPAs? Plasma, Frameworks, and KDE Applications?10:40
soeeyes10:41
soeemparillo: here you have an overview https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa10:41
mparilloAre there not all kinds of dependencies between Plasma, Frameworks, and Apps?10:42
mparilloTY10:42
soeewell probably apps and plasma can have minimal version of Frameworks set10:42
clivejomamarley: does it contain your fix for the monitors?10:43
mparillosudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma 110 to be upgraded and 1 new package.10:46
mparilloDone. Re-booting.10:49
soeewhat new package it was ?10:50
clivejomine has 125 upgrades and one new install10:55
clivejolibopus0:i38610:55
mamarleyclivejo: The computers experiencing that problem are at my parents' house.  I don't want to upgrade them remotely in case something goes wrong, but I will test it later this week.10:56
clivejono problem10:56
mparillokinfocenter reports plasma 5.5.5 ! I vote we copy from staging to landing and then call for testers.10:59
clivejothere are a few lintian warnings/errors Id like yofel to have a look at11:03
yofeldon't expect me to look at plasma before the weekend11:06
clivejoyofel: is there anything I can help with?11:07
yofelwell, if you really have nothing to do you could investigate if digikam can be saved11:08
clivejo!info digikam xenial11:09
ubottudigikam (source: digikam): digital photo management application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.12.0-0ubuntu6 (xenial), package size 4356 kB, installed size 16662 kB11:09
yofeltry to install it11:09
clivejoon my xenial?11:09
yofelyes11:09
clivejoI think the systray icons are finally fixed in 5.5.5 :)11:12
yofelshadeslayer: when you have some time, please pull automation and run: ./ubuntu-archive-upload -v 15.12.1 -t /tmp/apps/ -r applications -a kubuntu-ppa/staging-misc11:13
yofelfor the apps upload. Also, comment out line 182 in the script before you do so the timestamps don't change. I already released and tagged stuff11:13
* yofel -> lunch11:14
* clivejo wonders why his Telegram desktop icon in systray looks to have a horrible purple smudge11:15
clivejoyofel: digikam is installing fine on my system11:18
clivejoFW 5.18, Plasma 5.5.5, Apps 15.12.111:19
* clivejo forgot how useful digikam is11:19
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clivejoonly thing I cant find is the geo  tab11:21
clivejothere used to be a little map that plotted where the photo was taken if it was geo-tagged11:21
clivejoIm guessing thats probably a marble plugin11:22
yofelweird, well ok then11:22
yofelit's libmarblewidget. You'll get it back with the qt5 digikam release11:22
yofelso far they're at 5.0 beta311:23
clivejo37 kipi plugins installed11:23
clivejokipi plugins 4.12.0 libkip 2.2.011:23
* yofel -> really lunch11:24
clivejoenjoy!11:24
* claydoh wonders if it would be a good idea to bump digikam to the beta just so we can get the kipi plugins for gwenview, etc :)11:27
clivejowhat version does gwenview need?11:29
claydohwhatever is qt5/plasma 5, which is  from digikam 5 11:30
clivejois the libkipi not being split from digikam into apps?11:34
clivejohttp://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/libkipi.git/11:34
clivejothis guy seems to have digikam5 packaged for wily11:34
clivejohttps://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/ubuntu/extra11:34
clivejois it kipi-plugins5 we need for gwenview?11:38
* clivejo goes off to play11:38
claydohi did try beta 1 some time back but gwenview did not see the kipi plugins, I assume it needs compiling with support switched on?11:39
clivejoIll grab that packaging for wily and repackage for xenial, and try to build gwenview with kipi-plugins511:40
clivejosee if that works11:40
* claydoh goes to bed, 11 days in a row without rest is going to kill him before he gets to vacation in Australia11:40
claydohcool clivejo11:40
yofelkipi-plugin is bundle released with digikam11:40
yofelphilip5 just builds from git, so it's seperate11:41
yofelsgclark: FYI: libkgapi and libkoabxml are in proposed. kolab I'll do once rohan gets to uploading apps. That's entangled with that11:42
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clivejoyofel: could I use https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/ubuntu/extra/+files/digikam5_5.0.0~beta3-wily~ppa1.debian.tar.xz to package a xenial version?11:44
yofelmaaaybe. If that uses the official digikam tarball11:45
clivejoits packaging a KF5 version11:45
yofelyeah, digikam 5 is the qt5 release11:45
clivejointo kipi-plugins511:45
clivejobut what Im asking is the KF5 version the one gwenview is looking for?11:46
yofelit is, gwenview uses kf5 libkipi, and that can only use qt5 kipi plugins11:46
clivejook, Ill go play with it11:47
clivejoyofel sgclark: regarding libkipi and libkf5kipi, they cant co-exist on the same system?12:09
clivejohttps://paste.kde.org/pznfgojxa12:09
yofelright12:14
BluesKajHey folks12:21
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clivejois there a reason they cant both exist?12:28
yofelhaven't look at that12:35
yofel*looked12:35
=== soee changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.5.4: X/archive, Apps 15.12.1: X/staging-misc, FW 5.18: X/archive | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | plasma 5.5 in kubuntu-ppa/ppa-landing for xenial, kubuntu-ppa/backports for wily
soeeal fine with updated topic ?12:52
yofel~right12:55
alleeclivejo: AFAIU they should be able to coexist.  As the plugin search path is different for kde4 and KF5  the libkipi* can coexists.  lib*kipi-data can both have partly the same data, but if the installation path is different, they can also coexists.12:55
yofelmaybe add the 5.5.5 wip part12:55
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=== soee changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.5.5: X/WIP, Plasma 5.5.4: X/archive, Apps 15.12.1: X/staging-misc, FW 5.18: X/archive | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | Plasma 5.5 for Wily in ppa: kubuntu-ppa/backports
alleeclivejo: philips digikam 4 package had a quite different split as debian and ubuntu AFAIR. 13:01
alleeclivejo: at least in digikam 4 times marble used parts from digikam.  *IF* that is still the case also the case for qt5 (true?),  we need to split philps packaging the lib*(-dev) that are needed by marble.  13:03
yofelit's the other way around, and the marble integration in digikam is broken because of the qt4/5 mismatch13:04
alleeyofel: ah, right13:04
yofelbut yeah, you are right on the different packaging scheme13:05
alleeso the digikam5* kipi* pkgs should no longer include  .h and .a files etc13:06
* allee is a fan of the simple layout of digikam5. In 4 it's turned out as overkill IMHO13:07
* yofel goes looking at screenshots13:13
yofelso far I only ever looked at the version numbers in the announcements, nother else XD13:13
yofellooks not that different to me13:14
yofelI think the biggest improvement here is breeze. Oxygen just made the small UI elements in digikam look bad13:15
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clivejohas debian packaged digikam5 yet?13:41
yofelyou'll probably want to ask them13:47
sgclarkmorning14:23
clivejomorning sgclark14:23
sgclarkyofel: did apps get uploaded?14:26
yofeln o14:26
sgclarkclivejo: is plasma done?14:27
sgclarkok14:27
clivejosgclark: few lintian warnings/errors Id like someone to look at14:27
clivejohttp://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.5.5_xenial.html14:27
sgclarkclivejo: listed in packaging notepad?14:27
sgclarkthat works too14:28
clivejoalthough Im using it and seems to be working OK14:28
sgclarkdesktop-mime-but-no-exec-code needs to be files upstream14:28
sgclarkfiled* as a bug14:28
sgclarkscript-not-executable I recall there being a debhelper tool that can make these executable14:29
sgclarkkwin multi-arch -- I am still not fully clear on architecture stuff, yofel can probably help here when he has time.14:31
sgclarkclivejo: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/dh.1.html in particular you want to read override_dh_fixperms:14:38
sgclarklibkscreen looking at the symbols file libkf5screen-bin in there does look very out of place.14:43
sgclarkplasma-workspace needs versions added to those breaks14:45
* sgclark thinks most of this is self explanatory14:46
sgclarkuser-manager needs the copyright file updated, upstream-maintainer needs to be changed to upstream contact.14:47
sgclarkI do have a doctor appointment today, so I am afk most of this afternoon.14:49
marco-parilloOn Xenial, I think we still need ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma for Plasma 5.5.5, but in the topic, it looks as if Plasma 5.5 for Wily in already in ppa: kubuntu-ppa/backports15:38
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yofel"fixed"15:39
BluesKajI see kwayland-data on 2 upgrades in the last hr, are we moving closer to replacing "X" ?15:42
marco-parilloOn Xenial, on physical ardware, I added the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma repository and Plasma 5.5.5 seemed stable to me (but I did not face instability on 5.5.4).15:44
yofel5.5 has a wayland session that's supposed to actually show you a desktop - not that usable though15:44
BluesKajyeah i saw JR's page showing wayland desktop ...looked ok 15:46
BluesKaj  here: http://jriddell.org/2016/03/01/wayland-image-updated/15:49
marco-parilloTrying in a VM: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma It looks as if libkf5screen-bin   will be added and 112 packages upgraded from ppa-landing.16:05
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shadeslayeryofel: running command16:11
yofelthanks :)16:11
shadeslayeruhh16:13
shadeslayersubprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['git', 'commit', '-a', '-m', 'NOCI\nRelease to xenial.']' returned non-zero exit status 116:13
shadeslayerI did comment out 18216:13
shadeslayeryofel: ^16:13
yofelhm... comment that out too...16:14
shadeslayerwhat line is that?16:14
shadeslayer200?16:14
yofel20016:14
shadeslayerack16:14
shadeslayerok it's doing it's thing16:14
shadeslayerI'll upload it when I get back at around 7:1516:15
geniigenii-testing: highlight test16:17
marco-parilloKDE Plasma Version 5.5.5 in a Xenial VM. No immediate breakage.16:20
genii-testingThis machine is booted to Xenial and fully updated. Feel free to ping if some testing is required.16:23
marco-parilloWell my test case was pretty simple. Update to ppa-landing (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa-landing) Then upgrade to plasma-staging (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma). Make sure kinfocenter gives you Plasma 5.5.5 and watch out for any regressions.16:30
geniimarco-parillo: You want me to try that then?16:31
marco-parilloI think it would be great, and soee asked me to, so I think it is also a good idea. The usual caveat against running it on an irreplacable partition / VM.16:35
genii-testingppa-landing added, update/upgrade cycle went fine, no packages held back. staging-plasma added, updated OK, upgrade is pulling in ~65MB of stuff right now16:41
genii-testinggwenview held back, doing dist-upgrade16:48
genii-testingNo errors. Rebooting.16:49
genii-testingmarco-parillo: The process seems to have been a success16:53
marco-parilloThen my vote (not that I get one) would be to push 5.5.5 to ppa-landing.16:54
marco-parilloThen to call for testers.16:55
genii-testingGot a bunch of weird errors like "W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/webdin32.exe' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)" installing kubuntu-restricted-extras, but it seems to have completed successfully17:04
yofelapt now runs as "_apt", not "root" for the downloading part, so it complains if it has to fallback to root to download something17:05
genii-testingyofel: So should it be given a different directory to download to which is writable for that user?17:06
yofelyeah, question in this case is whether the extras or update-notifier would be responsible for that17:07
clivejosgclark: is this big report okay?  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36031917:23
ubottuKDE bug 360319 in general "desktop-mime-but-no-exec-code lintian error when packaging." [Minor,Unconfirmed]17:23
clivejoshould I add a Lintian override to bluedevil while the bug report is looked at?17:46
clivejosoee: you home?17:49
soeeclivejo: yes, but first something to eat, im starving17:50
clivejodont forget you're testing plasma tonight!17:50
clivejoyofel sgclark: The bluedevil lintian bug has been fixed upstream, as per https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36029217:57
ubottuKDE bug 360292 in general "desktop-mime-but-no-exec-code" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]17:57
clivejowhat do I do about it now, just ignore it?  create a patch? or lintian override it?17:58
valorieo/ from Yakima, WA18:02
valorieover the mountains from home18:03
clivejoo/18:03
valorieahoneybun: around?18:03
clivejohavent seen him18:03
valorieour room is right next to the river which is nearly at flood stage18:03
valorieinteresting to watch18:03
valorie!note ahoneybun look into #kde-www about changes in the community.k.o wiki18:06
ubottuvalorie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:06
valoriepfff18:06
soeeok im full now :) just hot tea left18:16
clivejosoee test plasma!18:27
soeealmost done18:27
soeeclivejo: ok upgrade without any errors, now reboot18:28
* genii-testing makes more coffee and waits for an assignment18:29
soeeclivejo: all good :D18:30
clivejosys tray looking ok?18:30
soeeyup18:31
mamarleyI never had any tray issues and still don't.18:31
clivejomamarley: mine was corrupted until this recent update18:31
clivejoalthough the telegram desktop icon looks strange18:32
shadeslayeryofel: uploading apps18:32
clivejoshadeslayer: thanks so much for this :)18:32
clivejoI dont wanna go to this meeting :(18:34
soeewhenever o open stream from KDE sprint @ CERN .. they eat :D18:34
valorielol18:36
valorieItalians are famous for that!18:37
soee:D18:37
* valorie invites everyone along to taste Yakima Valley wines this afternoon18:38
marco-parilloAnd Italo-Americans as well!18:38
genii-testingIs ddebs repository for Kubuntu different than ddebs.ubuntu.com ?18:40
shadeslayerclivejo: yofel all uploaded18:41
shadeslayer:O18:41
shadeslayereverything rejected18:41
shadeslayerapparently everything needs -Sa18:41
soeewhat is -Sa ?18:42
shadeslayerinclude source18:44
shadeslayerman debuild :)18:44
shadeslayeruploading again18:51
shadeslayercya later18:51
valorieshadeslayer: <318:52
soeeclivejo: ping18:55
yofelgenii-testing: es19:08
yofelyes19:08
yofelshadeslayer: thanks!19:08
genii-testingyofel: Thanks :)19:09
clivejosoee: pong19:35
soeeclivejo: now when shadeslayer uploaded apps, is it possible to stage https://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-15.12.2.php ?19:36
clivejosoee: you know the drill by now!!  yofel makes those decisions, not me!19:48
yofelgo ahead, it's tagged and uploaded19:49
clivejoI need some help with some minor packaging in plasma 5.5.519:49
clivejobut Im just about to set off for a meeting19:49
yofelpay attention to your mails though, you might get build failure mails for 15.12.119:50
clivejoshould be back in couple of hours19:50
yofelregarding frameworks: don't stage 5.1919:51
yofelwe should just sync what debian has after 16.04 is out19:51
yofellet see if I can get calligra reviewed19:59
yofelhm, that needs a rebase20:02
ahoneybunclaydoh, still have that error from plasmashell?20:12
claydohahoneybun: no, installed kscreen-something-bin, as mentioned later20:13
claydohsomeone mentioned later20:13
ahoneybunoh I still have it as I did not do that 20:13
* claydoh looks up to find20:13
claydohlibkf5screen-bin20:14
* ahoneybun triers20:15
ahoneybunrebooting20:15
ahoneybunclaydoh, success20:19
ahoneybunsgclark, installing libkf5screen-bin fixed claydoh and I's issue20:20
yofelgenii-testing: on second thought, I misread your question. For the primary archive, the debug repo is ddebs.ubuntu.com, that's for everything in the archive. ddebs.ubuntu.com does not contain PPA related symbols though20:44
genii-testingyofel: So are the -dbg packages for whats in Kubuntu PPAs in the same PPAs then?20:52
yofelgenii-testing: right, they are built in the ppa's20:53
yofelhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkolab/1.0.2-1ubuntu1 wtf?21:09
yofelthis worked in the ppa21:09
sgclarkyofel: if I had to guess it looks like we will suffer the same build orders issues as ppa21:51
sgclarkI presume I have retry permissions?21:51
sgclarkclivejo: yofel I was planning on staging apps when they were ready.21:53
soeeapps start to show in updates21:54
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yofelsgclark: you should have them21:59
sgclarkthough if build succeeds I don't have a clue how to retrigger. ppa I bumped ppa number22:00
yofelyou'll have to do a new archive upload22:04
yofelaren't apps supposed to have internal deps on >= 15.12.1 ?22:04
sgclarkhmm yup, it is building with 15.08.2 akonadi22:05
yofelor meh, we probably didn't add that thanks to the merges22:05
yofelmaybe we should upload entire kdepim again with all versions bumped22:05
sgclarkno I recall adding a ton when I was rebuilding22:05
yofeloh ok22:05
sgclarkbut obviously ssomething was missed.22:06
sgclarkI think only kolab affected *crosses fingers*22:07
sgclarkwtf libkf5akonadi-dev (>= 15.12.1~),22:07
sgclarkit should *not* have built with 15.08.222:08
sgclarkretrying. that makes no sense. What is the ~ at the end anyway?22:08
sgclarkyofel: ^22:08
sgclarkuhh wait a minute. another one kmailtransport failed also built with akonadi 15.08.222:12
yofelsgclark: the epochs are missing22:15
yofel4:15.08.2 > 15.12.122:15
sgclarkyofel: ah22:15
* yofel totally missed that :/22:16
sgclarkis there an easy way to find which packages have epochs? this is a mistake too easily made22:19
yofelgrep with a fancy regexp?22:19
sgclarkhahahahaha22:19
yofelactually, we have logic for that in k-a22:20
yofelthere is a packages-with-epoch list in one of the json files22:20
shadeslayeryofel: upload didn't go well afaict22:32
yofelas in build failures?22:33
clivejothe new FF is really getting on my nerves22:33
sgclarklibkolab is updated and needs a new upload22:34
yofeljust go and upload22:34
sgclarkhas not uploaded to archive in what seems like forever. how? lol22:35
yofeluse 'ubuntu' as the dput target22:35
clivejoarmhf build of ktnef 4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1 failed22:36
sgclarkdebuild -S ?22:36
yofelyes22:36
clivejoppc64el build of okteta 4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1 failed22:36
sgclarkclivejo: we already know what is going on.22:36
sgclarkstupid epochs22:36
yofeland make sure you strip any ppa suffix from the version22:36
clivejosgclark: yofel asked me to keep an eye on my emails22:37
sgclarkokies dokie.22:37
mamarleyYou might say, "Epoch fail!" ;p22:43
* clivejo cries22:44
yofelheh22:44
sgclarkhaha22:44
sgclarklibkolab uploaded. moving on to kmailtransport22:44
clivejonothing will work for me22:45
sgclarkcontext?22:45
clivejoFF keeps crashing, Netflix wont load, Im tired and grumpy22:46
* yofel runs nf in chrome, ff never renders the videos fluently22:47
clivejoIm using chrome22:47
clivejoThere was an unexpected error. Please reload the page and try again.22:48
yofelo.O22:48
clivejoevery video is the same22:48
yofel"Netflix Site Error", well, that's that22:49
clivejoI wanted to watch some Big Bang to cheer me up22:49
sgclarkbeen hearing lots of complaints on FF last few days22:51
sgclarkthankfully I can say "we don't package that"22:51
* yofel hasn't installed todays ff 45 update yet22:52
sgclarkkmailtransport fixed and uploaded22:56
clivejosgclark: are you staging 15.12.2?22:58
sgclarkthat was my plan yes22:58
sgclarkbut I need to fix archive first22:58
clivejook22:58
sgclarkerr I am very confused. seems libkf5akonadi-dev does not even exist23:04
clivejoits being migrated out to libkf5akonadiserver-dev I think23:08
clivejohttp://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/akonadi.git/tree/debian/control23:09
clivejolibkf5akonadiserver-dev replaces and breaks libakonadi-dev23:10
sgclarksomehow it exists in misc ppa. .. ugh23:12
clivejoits in kdepimlibs23:12
clivejohttp://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kdepimlibs.git/tree/debian/control23:12
clivejowith 15.12.2 I dont think the migration has happened23:13
sgclarkwell it is not in archive, hense my confusion23:13
sgclarkoh.23:16
sgclarkit is still building.23:16
sgclarkok found the epoch file. doesnt make this any easier :/23:25
* ahoneybun walks in23:29

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