[00:00] bang! [02:11] clivejo: My initial impression is that Plasma 5.5.5 is working great! Plasma and kwin start and screen locking works. === dax is now known as daxcat [08:50] hiho === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [10:27] mamarley: How are you getting 5.5.5? I have the Xenial PPA-Landing, just checked for updates, and I am still on 5.5.4 [10:35] mparillo: it is in staging i think [10:35] mparillo: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.series_filter=xenial [10:35] and 5.5.5 needs to be tested, so if you can please do :) [10:36] ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma [10:39] clivejo: you could also ping testers [10:40] So on Landing, there is only one big PPA (either ppa-landing for development release, or backports-ppa for backports), but in Staging, there are three separate PPAs? Plasma, Frameworks, and KDE Applications? [10:41] yes [10:41] mparillo: here you have an overview https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa [10:42] Are there not all kinds of dependencies between Plasma, Frameworks, and Apps? [10:42] TY [10:42] well probably apps and plasma can have minimal version of Frameworks set [10:43] mamarley: does it contain your fix for the monitors? [10:46] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma 110 to be upgraded and 1 new package. [10:49] Done. Re-booting. [10:50] what new package it was ? [10:55] mine has 125 upgrades and one new install [10:55] libopus0:i386 [10:56] clivejo: The computers experiencing that problem are at my parents' house. I don't want to upgrade them remotely in case something goes wrong, but I will test it later this week. [10:56] no problem [10:59] kinfocenter reports plasma 5.5.5 ! I vote we copy from staging to landing and then call for testers. [11:03] there are a few lintian warnings/errors Id like yofel to have a look at [11:06] don't expect me to look at plasma before the weekend [11:07] yofel: is there anything I can help with? [11:08] well, if you really have nothing to do you could investigate if digikam can be saved [11:09] !info digikam xenial [11:09] digikam (source: digikam): digital photo management application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.12.0-0ubuntu6 (xenial), package size 4356 kB, installed size 16662 kB [11:09] try to install it [11:09] on my xenial? [11:09] yes [11:12] I think the systray icons are finally fixed in 5.5.5 :) [11:13] shadeslayer: when you have some time, please pull automation and run: ./ubuntu-archive-upload -v 15.12.1 -t /tmp/apps/ -r applications -a kubuntu-ppa/staging-misc [11:13] for the apps upload. Also, comment out line 182 in the script before you do so the timestamps don't change. I already released and tagged stuff [11:14] * yofel -> lunch [11:15] * clivejo wonders why his Telegram desktop icon in systray looks to have a horrible purple smudge [11:18] yofel: digikam is installing fine on my system [11:19] FW 5.18, Plasma 5.5.5, Apps 15.12.1 [11:19] * clivejo forgot how useful digikam is === lordieva1er is now known as lordievader === lordievader is now known as Guest45991 [11:21] only thing I cant find is the geo tab [11:21] there used to be a little map that plotted where the photo was taken if it was geo-tagged [11:22] Im guessing thats probably a marble plugin [11:22] weird, well ok then [11:22] it's libmarblewidget. You'll get it back with the qt5 digikam release [11:23] so far they're at 5.0 beta3 [11:23] 37 kipi plugins installed [11:23] kipi plugins 4.12.0 libkip 2.2.0 [11:24] * yofel -> really lunch [11:24] enjoy! [11:27] * claydoh wonders if it would be a good idea to bump digikam to the beta just so we can get the kipi plugins for gwenview, etc :) [11:29] what version does gwenview need? [11:30] whatever is qt5/plasma 5, which is from digikam 5 [11:34] is the libkipi not being split from digikam into apps? [11:34] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/libkipi.git/ [11:34] this guy seems to have digikam5 packaged for wily [11:34] https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/ubuntu/extra [11:38] is it kipi-plugins5 we need for gwenview? [11:38] * clivejo goes off to play [11:39] i did try beta 1 some time back but gwenview did not see the kipi plugins, I assume it needs compiling with support switched on? [11:40] Ill grab that packaging for wily and repackage for xenial, and try to build gwenview with kipi-plugins5 [11:40] see if that works [11:40] * claydoh goes to bed, 11 days in a row without rest is going to kill him before he gets to vacation in Australia [11:40] cool clivejo [11:40] kipi-plugin is bundle released with digikam [11:41] philip5 just builds from git, so it's seperate [11:42] sgclark: FYI: libkgapi and libkoabxml are in proposed. kolab I'll do once rohan gets to uploading apps. That's entangled with that === Guest45991 is now known as lordievader [11:44] yofel: could I use https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/ubuntu/extra/+files/digikam5_5.0.0~beta3-wily~ppa1.debian.tar.xz to package a xenial version? [11:45] maaaybe. If that uses the official digikam tarball [11:45] its packaging a KF5 version [11:45] yeah, digikam 5 is the qt5 release [11:45] into kipi-plugins5 [11:46] but what Im asking is the KF5 version the one gwenview is looking for? [11:46] it is, gwenview uses kf5 libkipi, and that can only use qt5 kipi plugins [11:47] ok, Ill go play with it [12:09] yofel sgclark: regarding libkipi and libkf5kipi, they cant co-exist on the same system? [12:09] https://paste.kde.org/pznfgojxa [12:14] right [12:21] Hey folks === mamarley_ is now known as mamarley [12:28] is there a reason they cant both exist? [12:35] haven't look at that [12:35] *looked === soee changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.5.4: X/archive, Apps 15.12.1: X/staging-misc, FW 5.18: X/archive | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | plasma 5.5 in kubuntu-ppa/ppa-landing for xenial, kubuntu-ppa/backports for wily [12:52] al fine with updated topic ? [12:55] ~right [12:55] clivejo: AFAIU they should be able to coexist. As the plugin search path is different for kde4 and KF5 the libkipi* can coexists. lib*kipi-data can both have partly the same data, but if the installation path is different, they can also coexists. [12:55] maybe add the 5.5.5 wip part === soee changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.5.5: X/WIP, Plasma 5.5.4: X/archive, Apps 15.12.1: X/staging-misc, FW 5.18: X/archive | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | plasma 5.5 in kubuntu-ppa/ppa-landing for xenial, kubuntu-ppa/backports for wily === soee changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.5.5: X/WIP, Plasma 5.5.4: X/archive, Apps 15.12.1: X/staging-misc, FW 5.18: X/archive | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | Plasma 5.5 for Wily in ppa: kubuntu-ppa/backports [13:01] clivejo: philips digikam 4 package had a quite different split as debian and ubuntu AFAIR. [13:03] clivejo: at least in digikam 4 times marble used parts from digikam. *IF* that is still the case also the case for qt5 (true?), we need to split philps packaging the lib*(-dev) that are needed by marble. [13:04] it's the other way around, and the marble integration in digikam is broken because of the qt4/5 mismatch [13:04] yofel: ah, right [13:05] but yeah, you are right on the different packaging scheme [13:06] so the digikam5* kipi* pkgs should no longer include .h and .a files etc [13:07] * allee is a fan of the simple layout of digikam5. In 4 it's turned out as overkill IMHO [13:13] * yofel goes looking at screenshots [13:13] so far I only ever looked at the version numbers in the announcements, nother else XD [13:14] looks not that different to me [13:15] I think the biggest improvement here is breeze. Oxygen just made the small UI elements in digikam look bad === jmux_ is now known as jmux [13:41] has debian packaged digikam5 yet? [13:47] you'll probably want to ask them [14:23] morning [14:23] morning sgclark [14:26] yofel: did apps get uploaded? [14:26] n o [14:27] clivejo: is plasma done? [14:27] ok [14:27] sgclark: few lintian warnings/errors Id like someone to look at [14:27] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.5.5_xenial.html [14:27] clivejo: listed in packaging notepad? [14:28] that works too [14:28] although Im using it and seems to be working OK [14:28] desktop-mime-but-no-exec-code needs to be files upstream [14:28] filed* as a bug [14:29] script-not-executable I recall there being a debhelper tool that can make these executable [14:31] kwin multi-arch -- I am still not fully clear on architecture stuff, yofel can probably help here when he has time. [14:38] clivejo: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/dh.1.html in particular you want to read override_dh_fixperms: [14:43] libkscreen looking at the symbols file libkf5screen-bin in there does look very out of place. [14:45] plasma-workspace needs versions added to those breaks [14:46] * sgclark thinks most of this is self explanatory [14:47] user-manager needs the copyright file updated, upstream-maintainer needs to be changed to upstream contact. [14:49] I do have a doctor appointment today, so I am afk most of this afternoon. [15:38] On Xenial, I think we still need ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma for Plasma 5.5.5, but in the topic, it looks as if Plasma 5.5 for Wily in already in ppa: kubuntu-ppa/backports === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.5.5: X/WIP, Plasma 5.5.4: X/archive, Apps 15.12.1: X/staging-misc, FW 5.18: X/archive | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | [15:39] "fixed" [15:42] I see kwayland-data on 2 upgrades in the last hr, are we moving closer to replacing "X" ? [15:44] On Xenial, on physical ardware, I added the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma repository and Plasma 5.5.5 seemed stable to me (but I did not face instability on 5.5.4). [15:44] 5.5 has a wayland session that's supposed to actually show you a desktop - not that usable though [15:46] yeah i saw JR's page showing wayland desktop ...looked ok [15:49] here: http://jriddell.org/2016/03/01/wayland-image-updated/ [16:05] Trying in a VM: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma It looks as if libkf5screen-bin will be added and 112 packages upgraded from ppa-landing. === daxcat is now known as ezri [16:11] yofel: running command [16:11] thanks :) [16:13] uhh [16:13] subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['git', 'commit', '-a', '-m', 'NOCI\nRelease to xenial.']' returned non-zero exit status 1 [16:13] I did comment out 182 [16:13] yofel: ^ [16:14] hm... comment that out too... [16:14] what line is that? [16:14] 200? [16:14] 200 [16:14] ack [16:14] ok it's doing it's thing [16:15] I'll upload it when I get back at around 7:15 [16:17] genii-testing: highlight test [16:20] KDE Plasma Version 5.5.5 in a Xenial VM. No immediate breakage. [16:23] This machine is booted to Xenial and fully updated. Feel free to ping if some testing is required. [16:30] Well my test case was pretty simple. Update to ppa-landing (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa-landing) Then upgrade to plasma-staging (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma). Make sure kinfocenter gives you Plasma 5.5.5 and watch out for any regressions. [16:31] marco-parillo: You want me to try that then? [16:35] I think it would be great, and soee asked me to, so I think it is also a good idea. The usual caveat against running it on an irreplacable partition / VM. [16:41] ppa-landing added, update/upgrade cycle went fine, no packages held back. staging-plasma added, updated OK, upgrade is pulling in ~65MB of stuff right now [16:48] gwenview held back, doing dist-upgrade [16:49] No errors. Rebooting. [16:53] marco-parillo: The process seems to have been a success [16:54] Then my vote (not that I get one) would be to push 5.5.5 to ppa-landing. [16:55] Then to call for testers. [17:04] Got a bunch of weird errors like "W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/webdin32.exe' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)" installing kubuntu-restricted-extras, but it seems to have completed successfully [17:05] apt now runs as "_apt", not "root" for the downloading part, so it complains if it has to fallback to root to download something [17:06] yofel: So should it be given a different directory to download to which is writable for that user? [17:07] yeah, question in this case is whether the extras or update-notifier would be responsible for that [17:23] sgclark: is this big report okay? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360319 [17:23] KDE bug 360319 in general "desktop-mime-but-no-exec-code lintian error when packaging." [Minor,Unconfirmed] [17:46] should I add a Lintian override to bluedevil while the bug report is looked at? [17:49] soee: you home? [17:50] clivejo: yes, but first something to eat, im starving [17:50] dont forget you're testing plasma tonight! [17:57] yofel sgclark: The bluedevil lintian bug has been fixed upstream, as per https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360292 [17:57] KDE bug 360292 in general "desktop-mime-but-no-exec-code" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [17:58] what do I do about it now, just ignore it? create a patch? or lintian override it? [18:02] o/ from Yakima, WA [18:03] over the mountains from home [18:03] o/ [18:03] ahoneybun: around? [18:03] havent seen him [18:03] our room is right next to the river which is nearly at flood stage [18:03] interesting to watch [18:06] !note ahoneybun look into #kde-www about changes in the community.k.o wiki [18:06] valorie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:06] pfff [18:16] ok im full now :) just hot tea left [18:27] soee test plasma! [18:27] almost done [18:28] clivejo: ok upgrade without any errors, now reboot [18:29] * genii-testing makes more coffee and waits for an assignment [18:30] clivejo: all good :D [18:30] sys tray looking ok? [18:31] yup [18:31] I never had any tray issues and still don't. [18:31] mamarley: mine was corrupted until this recent update [18:32] although the telegram desktop icon looks strange [18:32] yofel: uploading apps [18:32] shadeslayer: thanks so much for this :) [18:34] I dont wanna go to this meeting :( [18:34] whenever o open stream from KDE sprint @ CERN .. they eat :D [18:36] lol [18:37] Italians are famous for that! [18:37] :D [18:38] * valorie invites everyone along to taste Yakima Valley wines this afternoon [18:38] And Italo-Americans as well! [18:40] Is ddebs repository for Kubuntu different than ddebs.ubuntu.com ? [18:41] clivejo: yofel all uploaded [18:41] :O [18:41] everything rejected [18:41] apparently everything needs -Sa [18:42] what is -Sa ? [18:44] include source [18:44] man debuild :) [18:51] uploading again [18:51] cya later [18:52] shadeslayer: <3 [18:55] clivejo: ping [19:08] genii-testing: es [19:08] yes [19:08] shadeslayer: thanks! [19:09] yofel: Thanks :) [19:35] soee: pong [19:36] clivejo: now when shadeslayer uploaded apps, is it possible to stage https://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-15.12.2.php ? [19:48] soee: you know the drill by now!! yofel makes those decisions, not me! [19:49] go ahead, it's tagged and uploaded [19:49] I need some help with some minor packaging in plasma 5.5.5 [19:49] but Im just about to set off for a meeting [19:50] pay attention to your mails though, you might get build failure mails for 15.12.1 [19:50] should be back in couple of hours [19:51] regarding frameworks: don't stage 5.19 [19:51] we should just sync what debian has after 16.04 is out [19:59] let see if I can get calligra reviewed [20:02] hm, that needs a rebase [20:12] claydoh, still have that error from plasmashell? [20:13] ahoneybun: no, installed kscreen-something-bin, as mentioned later [20:13] someone mentioned later [20:13] oh I still have it as I did not do that [20:13] * claydoh looks up to find [20:14] libkf5screen-bin [20:15] * ahoneybun triers [20:15] rebooting [20:19] claydoh, success [20:20] sgclark, installing libkf5screen-bin fixed claydoh and I's issue [20:44] genii-testing: on second thought, I misread your question. For the primary archive, the debug repo is ddebs.ubuntu.com, that's for everything in the archive. ddebs.ubuntu.com does not contain PPA related symbols though [20:52] yofel: So are the -dbg packages for whats in Kubuntu PPAs in the same PPAs then? [20:53] genii-testing: right, they are built in the ppa's [21:09] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkolab/1.0.2-1ubuntu1 wtf? [21:09] this worked in the ppa [21:51] yofel: if I had to guess it looks like we will suffer the same build orders issues as ppa [21:51] I presume I have retry permissions? [21:53] clivejo: yofel I was planning on staging apps when they were ready. [21:54] apps start to show in updates === ezri is now known as daxcat [21:59] sgclark: you should have them [22:00] though if build succeeds I don't have a clue how to retrigger. ppa I bumped ppa number [22:04] you'll have to do a new archive upload [22:04] aren't apps supposed to have internal deps on >= 15.12.1 ? [22:05] hmm yup, it is building with 15.08.2 akonadi [22:05] or meh, we probably didn't add that thanks to the merges [22:05] maybe we should upload entire kdepim again with all versions bumped [22:05] no I recall adding a ton when I was rebuilding [22:05] oh ok [22:06] but obviously ssomething was missed. [22:07] I think only kolab affected *crosses fingers* [22:07] wtf libkf5akonadi-dev (>= 15.12.1~), [22:08] it should *not* have built with 15.08.2 [22:08] retrying. that makes no sense. What is the ~ at the end anyway? [22:08] yofel: ^ [22:12] uhh wait a minute. another one kmailtransport failed also built with akonadi 15.08.2 [22:15] sgclark: the epochs are missing [22:15] 4:15.08.2 > 15.12.1 [22:15] yofel: ah [22:16] * yofel totally missed that :/ [22:19] is there an easy way to find which packages have epochs? this is a mistake too easily made [22:19] grep with a fancy regexp? [22:19] hahahahaha [22:20] actually, we have logic for that in k-a [22:20] there is a packages-with-epoch list in one of the json files [22:32] yofel: upload didn't go well afaict [22:33] as in build failures? [22:33] the new FF is really getting on my nerves [22:34] libkolab is updated and needs a new upload [22:34] just go and upload [22:35] has not uploaded to archive in what seems like forever. how? lol [22:35] use 'ubuntu' as the dput target [22:36] armhf build of ktnef 4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1 failed [22:36] debuild -S ? [22:36] yes [22:36] ppc64el build of okteta 4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1 failed [22:36] clivejo: we already know what is going on. [22:36] stupid epochs [22:36] and make sure you strip any ppa suffix from the version [22:37] sgclark: yofel asked me to keep an eye on my emails [22:37] okies dokie. [22:43] You might say, "Epoch fail!" ;p [22:44] * clivejo cries [22:44] heh [22:44] haha [22:44] libkolab uploaded. moving on to kmailtransport [22:45] nothing will work for me [22:45] context? [22:46] FF keeps crashing, Netflix wont load, Im tired and grumpy [22:47] * yofel runs nf in chrome, ff never renders the videos fluently [22:47] Im using chrome [22:48] There was an unexpected error. Please reload the page and try again. [22:48] o.O [22:48] every video is the same [22:49] "Netflix Site Error", well, that's that [22:49] I wanted to watch some Big Bang to cheer me up [22:51] been hearing lots of complaints on FF last few days [22:51] thankfully I can say "we don't package that" [22:52] * yofel hasn't installed todays ff 45 update yet [22:56] kmailtransport fixed and uploaded [22:58] sgclark: are you staging 15.12.2? [22:58] that was my plan yes [22:58] but I need to fix archive first [22:58] ok [23:04] err I am very confused. seems libkf5akonadi-dev does not even exist [23:08] its being migrated out to libkf5akonadiserver-dev I think [23:09] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/akonadi.git/tree/debian/control [23:10] libkf5akonadiserver-dev replaces and breaks libakonadi-dev [23:12] somehow it exists in misc ppa. .. ugh [23:12] its in kdepimlibs [23:12] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kdepimlibs.git/tree/debian/control [23:13] with 15.12.2 I dont think the migration has happened [23:13] well it is not in archive, hense my confusion [23:16] oh. [23:16] it is still building. [23:25] ok found the epoch file. doesnt make this any easier :/ [23:29] * ahoneybun walks in