=== Kilos is now known as and === and is now known as Kilos [04:57] morning superfly inetpro Cryterion anton_may theblazehen and all other lurkers [05:20] morning all [05:21] morning chesedo [05:42] wazzup [05:42] another day [05:42] but the same ol crap [05:42] no sun yet [05:42] yip [05:43] At least had a R10 McDonalds special, yes not the best, but something to get me going [05:43] lekker [05:43] morning [05:44] i used to enjoy mcdonalds when they were 2 for R10 [05:44] hi thatgraemeguy [05:44] Yip, well it's an OJ & McEgg, Sasuage [05:44] lekker [05:45] easier than making your own [05:45] * Kilos thinking [05:45] whats an OJ [05:45] Orange Juice [05:45] oh [05:46] all these abreviations drive me crazy, ubuntu is full of them [05:46] when i watch the devs at work i get totally lost [05:47] oh hi again Kilos [05:47] LoL [05:53] whatsapp - bunch of retards [05:53] lol [05:54] blocked my testing number for yowsup because it's against there T&C's [05:54] Got Telegram working - smucks and it's much better interface [05:54] i love telegram [05:55] yip, the telegram-cli is so kewl, very easy to use and a very good help menu [05:55] and its the last thing to lose connection when signal is bad and faster than anything else [05:56] It's instant [05:56] yes [05:56] even to open the desktop version it connects in seconds [05:57] I've created a group and added myself to the group, now busy testing nagios notifications to the group [05:57] takes longer in pidgin , but with pidgin you can use secret chats that the desktop app cant do [05:57] the telegram-cli you can too [05:57] droid things do secret fine [05:59] wish they would on the audio side so i can dump skype [06:00] Probably over time, alot of security headers on those packets [06:00] ah [06:04] Kewl you can deamonize the program [06:16] nice to see you being active here anton_may took a while [06:29] well try to [06:34] hi Cryterion iqbal [06:34] mornings [06:37] Cryterion the name i was looking for is wormwood [06:38] ? [06:38] to do with planet x [06:38] hehe [06:38] you left my channel [06:38] ah, ok [06:49] hmmm [06:49] I'll join again just now, something must have gone wrong with autojoin [06:50] np [06:53] Morning [06:58] hi all [06:58] hi dlPhreak [07:04] hi iqbal dlPhreak [07:06] Kilos chesedo iqbal howzit [07:06] lekker and there [07:08] Pretty swell thanks Kilos [07:09] Kilos, o/ [07:09] everyone o/ [07:09] hi pavlushka [07:10] hi pavlushka [07:11] * anton_may note to self, if laptop says battery is flat plug in power and save the work [07:11] hahaha [07:11] my battery is totallt messed so only works off power [07:12] gives me 2 mins to shutdown on power cuts though [07:13] i usually run my laptop battery almost dead in the mornings and then plug it in, but was so busy. I saw the notification and thought, just 5 more min then plug in.....not to be [07:13] lol [07:13] get conky to show battery percentage. [07:13] really works for me. [07:14] ja will add to my other million conky notifications [07:15] Haha I'm trying to make the most useless and OP conkyrc. [07:15] dlPhreak, Hi [07:15] pavlushka how are you? [07:17] dlPhreak, I m fine, you? [07:18] I'm good thank pavlushka [07:19] You a new egg or old reg? [07:19] great thanks dlPhreak [07:20] * chesedo also waves to pavlushka [07:20] * pavlushka waving to chesedo [07:21] chesedo, lol. [07:22] * chesedo clearly missed something [07:26] chesedo, I found it amusing, the silent waving thing. [07:27] lol [07:29] chesedo, I guess i didn't miss anything this time. [07:29] chesedo, kidding [07:29] * chesedo read through it and almost waved at the screen... [07:30] well, kind of almost... [07:30] chesedo, which part? i missed? [07:31] pavlushka: while trying to figure out 'silent waving thing' [07:39] chesedo, dlPhreak, Kilos , bye [07:39] i have now had 5+ missed calls from a number, but trying to dial back results in `the number is incorrect`... how does one figure that? [07:44] Morning everyone. [07:45] hi Xsm [07:45] tackling the server today? [07:46] I managed to finish the forwarding dns server chesedo, last night. [07:47] wow, congrats [07:48] I can ssh to the server, but not get online from an internal computer. Just busy looking for the webiste that I installed the shh with, need to find the known_hosts file and the keygen. Can't get in with ssh without a password. [07:53] hi Xsm [07:54] Hey Dad. [07:54] ty chesedo but still a way to go yet. [07:55] massive job hey [07:55] next one will be easier though [07:56] Yes it will. I am sure of that. But that is why I want to make one for home, to refresh all I have done too. [07:57] Xsm: so the server can get online? [07:58] I am on it now, Xsm = server. [07:58] Wolfeyes = inetrnal computer. [07:59] oh ok, sounds like just iptables are left then... [08:00] and squid [08:00] and this connection error [08:00] hmm [08:00] chesedo: have you done two network cards before? [08:01] Let me rephrase that. [08:01] home server, yes [08:02] Okay let me explain what I have done here then, I have one network card, p3p1 = 192.168.1.1 and p5p1 =10.0.0.1. [08:05] Or this is how I am understanding it, the p5p1 links via the isc-dns-server which links to a forwarding dns server, which links p3p1 to the router. [08:07] the p5p1 = 10.0.0.1, does this have gateways in the /etc/network/interfaces and should the subnetmask be different from the p3p1? I have seen this is different. [08:07] p5p1 is the internal one? [08:08] yes [08:10] in the interfaces the subnet is the same, but when I ifconfig the subnet is = p3p1 = 255.255.255.0 and the p5p1 = 255.0.0.0 [08:11] ok, so the internal links (or will link) to the external. One/both of them will use your forwarding dns server (which seems to be isc-dns-server in your case) [08:11] the internal's gateway will be itself... what is it currently? [08:13] but you should not need to set it anyway... [08:15] subnet or netmask? [08:15] http://bin.snyman.info/mmmnkdcb [08:17] Which posses another question I have, what should the gateway be in the internal computer? Trying to ssh to the p5p1? [08:18] the subsets can be same since the ip ranges differ as far a i knw [08:18] let me get that internals computers details. [08:18] for the internals the gateway is the server [08:18] which card though? [08:19] there is two or shouldn't it matter, prefferably the internal card for security. [08:19] since p5p1 is internal 10.0.0.1 [08:20] * chesedo thinks the internal's interfaces will also need network and broadcast set, but will see (mine has for a dchp setup) [08:26] http://bin.snyman.info/mmmccsmy [08:26] internal computer [08:27] seems ok (will set the dns now now) [08:28] can it ping the server [08:30] yes [08:30] but no internet. [08:31] thats where the iptables will come in... [08:32] didn't you have a dchp-server also setup on the server? [08:32] http://bin.snyman.info/mmmndnug <------ server [08:32] yes [08:34] won't you rather use it to give the clients static addresses? which one do you have btw? [08:37] or maybe play with that later... to get the internal to reach the internet you will have to setup masquerading [08:38] * chesedo saw you mention someone masquerading the other day... [08:38] *someone's [08:48] Xsm: broke something? [08:50] lol [08:51] Telkom card disconnecting, something I had to learn int he process that it isn't always the network cards or firewall breaking the internet connection. [08:51] ouch, that can be a pain [08:54] Yeah tell me about it but now I know if I been connected for a while, and it just goes off, it's the telkom sim card. [10:37] Don't know if I should laugh or cry --> https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2016/03/07/announcing-sql-server-on-linux/ [10:54] anton_may: I thought the exact same thing when I saw this yesterday. [11:02] cry, at the thought of possibly having to support it [11:02] why oh why can't everyone just use postgresql [11:18] i wonder if any linux os can support all the updates that will be coming through every min? [11:29] sweet nagios reporting through telegram and working way better than whatsapp [11:31] Good morning Kilos [11:31] hello my fly [12:04] hmm... [12:04] boom boom connection gone [12:04] bonjourno kilosbento, come se va? [12:05] no spika that language senor === Kilosbento is now known as Kilos [12:06] ak ok spiacente [12:06] dis ekke man [12:07] op bento OS [12:07] lol ek weet [12:08] spiacente = sorry [12:08] snaaks my ander dongle ding willie knek nie [12:09] dan gooi hom in die swembad [12:09] woooo [12:10] this telkom tower is so afraid of lightning that even if a boom is heard far away connection goes [12:11] weather liar just said expect heavy rain all day [12:14] Google weather says PTA thunder storms [12:16] lets hope more storms and less thunder [12:17] good day everyone [12:17] hi qwebirc93708 [12:17] welcome to ubuntu-za [12:17] thank you very much [12:17] wazzup i have a question for you , i have a Vodafone Webbook and i want to reload the OS on it as its a bit faulty. Do you know how i can do this [12:19] just be patient, someone will have the answer for you [12:19] thank you [12:20] it has Ubuntu linux 2.6.35-13-charlotte (armv7) on ti [12:20] it [12:21] we can of course ask our bot to google it [12:21] but tell us first what the problem is [12:22] as in what is a bit faulty [12:22] maybe we can give you a command to sort it out [12:23] i can install software as there are two "charlotte" file corupt or missing [12:24] i can udate cause it keep giving that errror to repair these two files [12:24] does it have synaptic on it [12:24] yes [12:24] you cant use the terminal right? [12:25] oh good [12:25] yes [12:25] in synaptic [12:25] you tick on the second button from left [12:25] and it gives an option to repair broken packages [12:26] let me open synaptic here so i can see for sure [12:26] yes it does , tried in term and it does nothing [12:26] the files are as follows [12:27] charlote-config [12:27] charlotte-config-za [12:27] ok [12:27] lets try [12:28] sudo touch /forcefsck [12:28] then reboot [12:28] it will run a filesystem check [12:28] when i run " apt-get install - f" it gives an error and does not repair [12:29] try [12:29] sudo dpkg --configure -a [12:29] its rebooting [12:30] were you installing something when this started [12:31] anton_may speak up [12:31] ek dom man [12:31] nope, this was a computer for the kids, now they have laptops and i want to use when i go meetings [12:32] so what they did with i dont know [12:32] aha then we find a way to fix it [12:32] then you tied to us for life hey [12:33] yip [12:33] lol [12:33] cool [12:33] is it still fixing things [12:33] it just rebooted normally [12:34] what is that charlotte thing do [12:34] for i mean [12:34] i dont know [12:35] let me go to desktop. i lost connection there for a bit [12:36] do you see the package in synaptic [12:36] yes i do [12:37] what does it say at the bottom, what does it do [12:37] but it wont repair or reinstall [12:38] and no remove option [12:38] or remove completely [12:38] i tried that also [12:38] oh my [12:38] it says 2 pakakges to be upgraded [12:39] ok tick reload at the top [12:39] did that [12:39] then then mark all upgrades [12:39] then apply [12:40] mark all upgrades , it running now lets what happens [12:41] sorry for taking up your time with all this sillyness [12:42] no man, thats why we have this channel [12:42] you are welcome here anytime and all the time [12:42] most of us are here everyday [12:42] it seems like this is going to take some time (1196 to download) [12:43] cool [12:43] wow wy behind [12:43] way [12:43] yip [12:44] i think it has been in a box for alomost 2 years now [12:44] wow [12:44] haha [12:44] dicided to take it out and see what i can use it for [12:44] good now you found us [12:45] when its working you can install xchat and set it up to connect here [12:45] then you have a proper irc client working [12:50] just type this in the terminal qwebirc93708 [12:50] lsb_release -a [12:51] lets see what ubuntu release is on there [12:53] will do the xchat [12:53] upgrading done? [12:53] that was fast [12:54] 10.04 lucid [12:54] oh my [12:54] thats old [12:54] ubuntu 10.04 LTS [12:54] yes [12:54] im on 14.04 [12:54] and 16.04 will be out soon [12:55] * chesedo thinks EOL [12:55] ok , for arm processros ? [12:55] strange it still finds upgrades [12:56] lts releases are only supported for 5 years [12:56] oh crap [12:56] you just upgrade then [12:56] then how do i load a new version on ? [12:56] ok [12:57] its still downloading [12:57] ok lets see if this fixes it first [12:58] then we worry about upgrading [12:58] ok [13:00] chesedo you okes will have to take over then, i remember something that was different with arms processors [13:00] do you know what thos two "charlotte" file are for [13:01] but if we can upgrade lts to lts it should know where to go [13:01] let me google [13:03] Kilos-: have no experience with arms, but think it might be upgrading now already... [13:03] hopefully not 10.10 [13:04] 7 min left [13:04] normally you must do release upgrades to go later release [13:04] that is also EOL, so guess it is going to 12.04 [13:04] anyway if it works thats good then we can work it out [13:05] hopefully yes [13:05] then there is still time till eol of 12.04 [13:05] i have 12.04 running on desktop too [13:06] was a good release [13:06] only the nm was stupid [13:07] i dont really like the unity desktop, Gnome is good for me [13:07] on my other laptop I'm runnung linux lite [13:07] with Xfce4 [13:08] but its all debian based, so i'm happy [13:08] not a fan of rpm's [13:08] yeah i run kde in 14.04 [13:09] didnt enjoy the xfce [13:10] not many do [13:10] i liked KDE on on knoppix [13:10] but its lighter than kde and unity [13:10] yes it is , that iwhy i run xfce [13:10] you an old hand then [13:11] yip , started on caldera linux [13:11] there is a lighter private ubuntu called bento , it use openbox [13:11] nice and fast [13:11] thnx , will check it out :) [13:12] ok finished dowloading , starting the install. [13:12] lets see [13:13] im sure it will work now [13:13] synaptic is quite efficient [13:14] save this link somewhere [13:14] http://linuxvillage.org/en/blog/2013/11/15/bento-ubuntu-remix-rc/ [13:14] sorry need my help? [13:14] error : could not perform immediate configuration on ' python2.7-minimal' . please see man5 apt.conf under ::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) [13:15] yes anton_may ^^ [13:15] does it go on qwebirc93708 or stick there [13:16] wazzup [13:16] all help would be welcome , Kilos is a real wonderfull person for helping me [13:16] anton_may old 10.04 webbook thats been in the cupboard for 2 years [13:17] now giving errors [13:17] ok [13:18] some sick conf file or something [13:18] qwebirc93708 was that error in the beginning of the installing [13:18] or were some packages already installed [13:19] chesedo dont just sit there [13:19] help me man [13:21] yes there was an error [13:22] sorry Kilos- am busy, will give input if i spot something wrong [13:22] lol [13:22] someone will work it out [13:22] * chesedo knows very little of broken installs [13:22] ok qwebirc93708 close synaptic [13:22] lets try command line repairs [13:23] way not install fresh? [13:23] where you get iso for arm [13:24] if someone can tell me how to install fes on this hardware i would do it in flash [13:24] it comes preinstalled from vodacom [13:24] https://insights.ubuntu.com/2011/10/18/vodafone-webbook-with-ubuntu-software-launched-in-south-africa/ [13:24] and i cant find a way to get in the bios [13:25] The only thing I canis this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1977379 - Don't know what to tell you [13:25] im looking for a how to [13:27] that link just tells the story about its release here [13:27] grrr [13:28] superfly you have some time? [13:28] error : could not perform immediate configuration on ' python2.7-minimal' . please see man5 apt.conf under ::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) [13:28] there is not much on the we for this webbook [13:29] i thinks its the arm side [13:29] yip , got again after tried to do the upgrades [13:29] does if have a dvd [13:29] nope [13:29] usb ports? [13:29] 2 [13:30] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/990740 [13:30] ok so we need to get into bios to tell it to boot from usb [13:30] thats the question of the day [13:31] qwebirc93708 [13:31] yes [13:31] that last link has some info [13:31] close synaptic [13:31] try terminal [13:31] error : could not perform immediate configuration on ' python2.7-minimal' . please see man5 apt.conf under ::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) [13:31] nono [13:32] sudo apt-get install -o APT::Immediate-Configure=false -f apt python-minimal [13:32] give me 5 and i will give feedback [13:32] ok [13:38] ok , did that [13:38] aaannnnnddddd? [13:38] busy with the dist-upgrade [13:38] kewl [13:39] it asked me do i want to contineu ? Yes [13:39] and [13:39] yay [13:39] error : could not perform immediate configuration on ' python2.7-minimal' . please see man5 apt.conf under ::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) [13:39] \well spotted anton_may ty [13:39] nope [13:39] oh no [13:40] sudo apt-get -f install -o APT::Immediate-Configure=false [13:41] sudo apt-get install -o APT::Immediate-Configure=false -f apt python-minimal [13:41] Then running do-release-upgrad [13:42] ah tumbles was imvolved [13:42] ok , having a go at that now [13:43] wow lots of work there [13:44] with luck before we reach the bottom of the page well have it [13:44] lol uh hu [13:44] stephano normally gets things right [13:45] still getting error on the " charlotte-config / charlotte-config-za " files [13:45] apt-get install -o APT::Immediate-Configure=false -f dpkg apt python-minimal [13:45] hehe [13:45] cant find them anywhere [13:47] trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10? [13:47] just trying to get to work again [13:47] upgrade is a secondry option [13:50] Kilos , the last command did not work either . [13:50] keep working your way down the page i see stuff about upgrading update manager [13:51] i read too slow [13:51] Here is a bug report on the webbook --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/986296 [13:52]