=== daxcat is now known as dax === tsimonq2alt is now known as tsimonq2- === tsimonq2- is now known as tsimonq2 [04:10] hi [04:17] hi n-iCe anyway I can help? [04:26] nop [04:26] I just installed lubuntu love it [04:26] can't configurate the weather tough [04:26] I think that is a known bug though [04:27] oh [04:27] no location right [04:27] yes [04:27] It works for me but people outside united states don't get it [04:28] yeah, I'm from México [08:12] Hello there... have a lubuntu on ancient hardware... is there any light IM application you could suggest... i use on Pidjin on my other computer, but was wondering if there was a lighter one you could suggest. === Ascavasaion is now known as Guest14328 [10:32] I have been editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf for ages, and nothing i do makes any difference. It is as if the xorg.conf file is not even being used. Some advice? === phil42 is now known as phil43 === phil43 is now known as phil42 === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Pici- is now known as Pici [18:15] hi guys. Lubuntu sometimes freezes. And it seems that PCMan causes the problem. Is there a reliable way to check if it's the reason and are there any common problems with PCMan? [18:16] Endie13: why do you say pcman seems to be the problem? [18:18] I notice that the PCMan running is the only constant [18:18] Endie13: how much of your resources is it consuming? what are your load averages like? can you still mvoe the mouse? [18:19] Endie13: also what version do you have (of lubuntu and pcmanfm), and how much ram/cpu you got? is swap setup? is ANBYTHING else running at the time of freeze? [18:24] I can't move the mouse. The system doesn't response at all. Sometimes I even have to power off the machine. Chromium is usually running all the time. The system unfreezes quite soon if it's not loaded with other processes. But sometimes I start a virtual machine and the PCMan seems to be the last straw. However problem appears when the vm is off as well. I have lubuntu 15.10 with PCManFM 1.2.3. [18:24] 2 GB ram. 2 GB swap [18:25] Endie13: my first suspicion would be chromium. [18:25] 1.66 Ghz, 2 cores, 4 threads [18:26] do you suggest I switch to firefox for sometime? [18:34] Endie13: no. it's more that browsers tend to consume a lot of resources, especially memory [18:34] I opened two tabs, went through some directories and checked top, pcman takes up to 30% cpu and 31000 RES [18:34] Endie13: if you're using plugins (flash, java, even html5), it'll hog up your cpu, too [18:35] Endie13: does it remain at 30%? [18:35] no, it immediately drops down when I stop clicking [18:36] so it jumps up every time you click on a directory? [18:36] !info pcmanfm wily [18:36] pcmanfm (source: pcmanfm): extremely fast and lightweight file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.3-1.1 (wily), package size 255 kB, installed size 1818 kB [18:36] ^ do you have 1.2.3 or 1.2.3-1.1? if the former, you should upgrade [18:36] also what sort of file system you using? [18:40] Endie13: this is the only bug i can find that mentions freeze or froze https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/914725 [18:40] Launchpad bug 914725 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "pcmanfm crashed with SIGSEGV in _g_utf8_normalize_wc()" [Medium,Confirmed] [18:41] all bugs are here btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm [18:41] is ext4 [18:41] and 1.2.3 [18:42] so upgrade [18:47] ok. I'll do that [18:48] terminal says I have the newest version [18:51] post the *exact* results of `apt-cache policy pcmanfm | grep -ei '(Installed|Candidate)'` [18:52] no such file or directory [18:52] then you typed something wrong. don't include the `` [18:53] I didn't [18:53] I must say I'm quite new to linux so I might even used a wrong command in order to update [18:54] I used `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pcmanfm` [18:54] i don't know why grep -e is failing but it is [18:54] try this: [18:54] post the *exact* results of `apt-cache policy pcmanfm | egrep -i '(Installed|Candidate)'` [18:55] empty line :) [18:55] uhhhhhh [18:55] that makes no sense [18:55] i just ran it here and get two lines back [18:55] and even if you have something uninstalled it will still return something [18:56] wait a sec [18:56] unless you typed pcmanfm wrong [18:57] if the package doesn't exist at all (e.g. foobar), it will return empty [19:16] what's wrestool? [19:16] is it archive manager? [19:16] the system froze again when I open an archive [19:17] RES 712 000 [19:18] !info wrestool [19:18] Package wrestool does not exist in wily [19:21] Endie13: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=wrestool&mode=exactfilename&suite=wily&arch=any [19:26] well that wrestool thingy is definitely a (or even the) trouble maker