[04:10] <n-iCe> hi
[04:17] <ianorlin> hi n-iCe anyway I can help?
[04:26] <n-iCe> nop
[04:26] <n-iCe> I just installed lubuntu love it
[04:26] <n-iCe> can't configurate the weather tough
[04:26] <ianorlin> I think that is a known bug though
[04:27] <n-iCe> oh
[04:27] <n-iCe> no location right
[04:27] <ianorlin> yes
[04:27] <ianorlin> It works for me but people outside united states don't get it
[04:28] <n-iCe> yeah, I'm from México
[08:12] <Ascavasaion> Hello there... have a lubuntu on ancient hardware... is there any light IM application you could suggest... i use on Pidjin  on my other computer, but was wondering if there was a lighter one you could suggest.
[10:32] <Ascavasaion> I have been editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf for ages, and nothing i do makes any difference.    It is as if the xorg.conf file is not even being used.   Some advice?
[18:15] <Endie13> hi guys. Lubuntu sometimes freezes. And it seems that PCMan causes the problem. Is there a reliable way to check if it's the reason and are there any common problems with PCMan?
[18:16] <wxl> Endie13: why do you say pcman seems to be the problem?
[18:18] <Endie13> I notice that the PCMan running is the only constant
[18:18] <wxl> Endie13: how much of your resources is it consuming? what are your load averages like? can you still mvoe the mouse?
[18:19] <wxl> Endie13: also what version do you have (of lubuntu and pcmanfm), and how much ram/cpu you got? is swap setup? is ANBYTHING else running at the time of freeze?
[18:24] <Endie13> I can't move the mouse. The system doesn't response at all. Sometimes I even have to power off the machine.  Chromium is usually running all the time. The system unfreezes quite soon if it's not loaded with other processes. But sometimes I start a virtual machine and the PCMan seems to be the last straw. However problem appears when the vm is off as well. I have lubuntu 15.10 with PCManFM 1.2.3.
[18:24] <Endie13> 2 GB ram. 2 GB swap
[18:25] <wxl> Endie13: my first suspicion would be chromium.
[18:25] <Endie13> 1.66 Ghz, 2 cores, 4 threads
[18:26] <Endie13> do you suggest I switch to firefox for sometime?
[18:34] <wxl> Endie13: no. it's more that browsers tend to consume a lot of resources, especially memory
[18:34] <Endie13> I opened two tabs, went through some directories and checked top, pcman takes up to 30% cpu and 31000 RES
[18:34] <wxl> Endie13: if you're using plugins (flash, java, even html5), it'll hog up your cpu, too
[18:35] <wxl> Endie13: does it remain at 30%?
[18:35] <Endie13> no, it immediately drops down when I stop clicking
[18:36] <wxl> so it jumps up every time you click on a directory?
[18:36] <wxl> !info pcmanfm wily
[18:36] <wxl> ^ do you have 1.2.3 or 1.2.3-1.1? if the former, you should upgrade
[18:36] <wxl> also what sort of file system you using?
[18:40] <wxl> Endie13: this is the only bug i can find that mentions freeze or froze https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/914725
[18:41] <wxl> all bugs are here btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm
[18:41] <Endie13> is ext4
[18:41] <Endie13> and 1.2.3
[18:42] <wxl> so upgrade
[18:47] <Endie13> ok. I'll do that
[18:48] <Endie13> terminal says I have the newest version
[18:51] <wxl> post the *exact* results of `apt-cache policy pcmanfm | grep -ei '(Installed|Candidate)'`
[18:52] <Endie13> no such file or directory
[18:52] <wxl> then you typed something wrong. don't include the ``
[18:53] <Endie13> I didn't
[18:53] <Endie13> I must say I'm quite new to linux so I might even used a wrong command in order to update
[18:54] <Endie13> I used `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pcmanfm`
[18:54] <wxl> i don't know why grep -e is failing but it is
[18:54] <wxl> try this:
[18:54] <wxl> post the *exact* results of `apt-cache policy pcmanfm | egrep -i '(Installed|Candidate)'`
[18:55] <Endie13> empty line :)
[18:55] <wxl> uhhhhhh
[18:55] <wxl> that makes no sense
[18:55] <wxl> i just ran it here and get two lines back
[18:55] <wxl> and even if you have something uninstalled it will still return something
[18:56] <Endie13> wait a sec
[18:56] <wxl> unless you typed pcmanfm wrong
[18:57] <wxl> if the package doesn't exist at all (e.g. foobar), it will return empty
[19:16] <Endie13> what's wrestool?
[19:16] <Endie13> is it archive manager?
[19:16] <Endie13> the system froze again when I open an archive
[19:17] <Endie13> RES 712 000
[19:18] <Endie13> !info wrestool
[19:21] <genii> Endie13: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=wrestool&mode=exactfilename&suite=wily&arch=any
[19:26] <Endie13> well that wrestool thingy is definitely a (or even the) trouble maker