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| mhall119 | hello docs team, it looks like both wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community/ are editable by members of ~ubuntu-etherpad now, is there anything else that needs to be fixed in the short-term that I can follow up with? | 19:26 |
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| pmatulis | mhall119: why is it confined to that group? i thought we wanted to make it public again? | 19:27 |
| knome | pmatulis, as long as LP allows spammers to join, there's no way we can have a public wiki with no spam | 19:28 |
| pmatulis | alright. why aren't we implementing a captcha? | 19:28 |
| knome | a captcha doesn't stop mechanical turk kind of spam | 19:29 |
| knome | eg. real people who spam | 19:29 |
| pmatulis | well how do we protect from real people? what is a wiki that does not allow real people? | 19:29 |
| knome | a moderated group. it's relatively easy to recognize most of the mechanical turk accounts | 19:30 |
| knome | eg. if your username is lajktgoaeifaskdjfaljkgr, you're likely not a real contributor | 19:30 |
| pmatulis | how does a good person know to join ~ubuntu-etherpad ? | 19:31 |
| knome | we tell them to join the team. | 19:31 |
| pmatulis | but they need to first complain about immutable pages. how do they know the way? | 19:32 |
| knome | we need to make sure the information is passed. | 19:32 |
| pmatulis | the only way i can think of is putting a header on every wiki page - "If you want to edit or create a new page then..." | 19:34 |
| knome | that can be done | 19:35 |
| pmatulis | ok, thanks for the explanation knome | 19:35 |
| knome | np | 19:35 |
| knome | we all acknowledge this isn't the ideal situation, but... | 19:36 |
| pleia2 | the footer of every page includes the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide link, it can be added there | 20:24 |
| pleia2 | oh, it already is :) | 20:24 |
| pleia2 | looks like wxl took care of it already | 20:24 |
| pleia2 | so it's not obvious, but that's the best we can do to inform people I think | 20:25 |
| pmatulis | pleia2: shouldn't it be the header? will people descend to that level to figure out what's going on? | 20:25 |
| pleia2 | it's in the header too | 20:25 |
| pleia2 | "Wiki Guide" | 20:26 |
| pmatulis | hm? | 20:26 |
| pleia2 | on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ there's a link to "Wiki Guide" | 20:26 |
| pleia2 | you do have to be logged in | 20:27 |
| pleia2 | but people would be logged in when they see Immutable too | 20:27 |
| pmatulis | pleia2: i see it, looking at that page | 20:27 |
| pleia2 | so it's linked twice on every single page | 20:27 |
| pleia2 | hopefully people find it | 20:28 |
| pmatulis | ok, i see the sentence | 20:28 |
| pmatulis | alright, maybe an embolded sentence at the top might be better but good enough | 20:28 |
| knome | we could probably even change the page you see when you click the immutable page link | 20:29 |
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