[02:37] <darkxst> robert_ancell, I can drop the gnome-control-center.real wrapper from g-c-c? its not actually seeded on Ubuntu anyway
[02:44] <robert_ancell> darkxst, I think so?
[02:45] <robert_ancell> If it's not seeded it surely isn't in use anymore
[02:46] <darkxst> I suppose it mainly was part of the transition, and if there are still apps calling "gnome-control-center" from Unity they would already be failing
[03:00] <robert_ancell> exactly
[03:03] <robert_ancell> darkxst, how is 16.04 going for you guys?
[03:09] <darkxst> robert_ancell, Mostly good, its running really well, but beta1 was a nightmare, hopefully final beta is smoother!
[03:09] <robert_ancell> :/
[03:10] <robert_ancell> darkxst, is GNOME Software seem like an improvement?
[03:12] <darkxst> I always tended to avoid USC anyway, but Software certainly fits in with our UI better!
[03:13] <robert_ancell> nice
[03:13] <darkxst> its still only showing installed apps though?
[03:14] <robert_ancell> darkxst, that should be fixed
[03:14] <robert_ancell> Fixing lots of small issues at the moment
[03:14] <darkxst> and I do wonder about the whole "restart & install" thing, that will annoy people
[03:18] <robert_ancell> darkxst, I think we plan on disabling that
[03:19] <darkxst> and just use update-manager?
[03:20] <robert_ancell> darkxst, yeah. You can update individual apps from gnome-software but for full updates just use update manager
[03:22] <darkxst> that what I would have expected, though currently you will get notified by both for updates?
[03:38] <QuadraQ> Anyone around to help?
[06:25] <Mia> I just downloaded the lastest ubuntu-gnome and installed it
[06:25] <Mia> but the gnome version on it seems a bit out of date
[06:25] <Mia> how can I update it to the latest gnome?
[06:25] <Mia> (properly)
[07:05] <darkxst> Mia, what version of ubuntu-gnome?
[07:05] <darkxst> 16.04 daily has the latest (stable) GNOME
[07:08] <Mia> oh
[07:08] <Mia> how can I download 16.04 then?
[07:08] <Mia> I have ubuntu-gnome 15.10
[07:09] <Mia> cc darkxst
[07:10] <darkxst> cdimage.ubuntu.com
[07:10] <darkxst> its still in Beta atm, but pretty stable
[07:10] <Mia> okay that's good to hear
[07:10] <Mia> thank you!
[07:11] <darkxst> the other option is to install gnome3-staging ppa, but at this point that is likely buggier than 16.04 beta
[07:11] <Mia> I did install it but it messed up the whole os
[07:11] <Mia> a lot of missing UI parts
[07:11] <darkxst> well no it certainly shouldnt be that buggy!
[07:12] <Mia> hmm
[07:12] <Mia> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-gnome-15-10-to-launch-to-gnome-3-16-how-to-upgrade-to-gnome-3-18-494377.shtml
[07:12] <Mia> darkxst, this is what I did on a brand new installation to virtualbox
[07:12] <Mia> and it has a lot of missing parts
[07:13] <Mia> I also tried installing gnome myself on ubuntu server
[07:13] <Mia> but I also couldn't make it
[07:13] <Mia> it was just black screen when I turned on the machine
[07:14] <darkxst> virtualbox graphics drivers are crap
[07:14] <Mia> what should I use
[07:17] <darkxst> vmware player is the best if you want 3D accelleration
[07:18] <darkxst> otherwise qemu/kvm work quite well
[07:26] <jback> Although that might not be the easiest locally
[07:26] <jback> That said, what does gnome boxes use?
[08:00] <Mia> I2ve installed 16.04 now, and looks like none of the animations are there any more?
[08:00] <Mia> should I be configuring something specific to enable UI animations ?
[08:00] <Mia> everything's so instant, no fade in fade outs
[08:00] <Mia> nothing
[08:24] <jback> what virtualization are you using?
[08:31] <darkxst> jback, boxes uses qemu
[08:31] <darkxst> via libvirt
[08:31] <darkxst> which works quite slow, but can be slow since it uses software rendering for the graphics
[08:31] <darkxst> ^"which works quite well"
[08:32] <darkxst> Mia, probably its using software rendering, so animations have been disabled
[08:33] <Mia> darkxst, how can I enable hardware rendering
[08:33] <Mia> becuae it works in earlier ubuntu-gnomes
[08:33] <Mia> I just installed 16.04 and it's not there
[08:33] <darkxst> in virtualbox?
[08:33] <Mia> yes
[08:34] <darkxst> what is your host system?
[08:35] <darkxst> you may need to install vbox guest drivers that match your host vbox, rather than using the included one
[08:36] <darkxst> and you may also need to enable 3D in the host UI (not sure if its set by default, I gave up on virtualbox years ago)
[08:36] <Mia> darkxst, my host is a 256gb ram i7 system, quite a beast with 4 gpu's --
[08:36] <Mia> I enabled 3d accel in vbox settings and increased the mem to max
[08:37] <darkxst> Mia,  I meant OS/Version
[08:37] <Mia> I mean I was using the exact settings in 15.10 ubuntu-gnome and it2s working fine --- os is win 8.1
[08:38] <darkxst> try re-installing the virtualbox guest and see if that will override the included kernel driver
[08:38] <darkxst> or just try Vmware player
[08:39] <darkxst> it really is much better (And free for personal use)
[20:16] <Shawn> hello. anything exciting for Xenial?
[20:17] <Shawn> I'm going to live boot one in a few minutes, should I go for daily or beta 1?
[20:46] <johnjohn101> can i ask about 16.04 ubuntu-gnome here?
[21:20] <Shawn> johnjohn101: just ask
[22:35] <johnjohn101> what happened to the right mouse click on the desktop of 16.04 LTS?