[04:24] <Kilos> morning za peeps
[04:34] <anton_may> Hello
[04:35] <Kilos> early bird hey anton_may 
[04:35] <anton_may> yip usually in at the office around 6'ish
[04:35] <Kilos> wow
[04:37] <anton_may> took me 3 hours to get home last night
[04:37] <Kilos> traffic?
[04:37] <anton_may> yip and the rain didn't help either
[04:38] <Kilos> what time is hometime
[04:39] <anton_may> 4
[04:39] <Kilos> ouch long days
[04:40] <anton_may> well probably would in later if i lived closer, but hey, these days work is work
[04:40] <Kilos> yip
[04:40] <anton_may> McD's food might not be the healthiest, but their coffe is top notch
[04:41] <Kilos> lol
[04:42] <Kilos> wake up superfly or youll miss your stop
[04:53] <Kilos> for once the weather liar got it right, 47mm so far since last night
[04:53] <Kilos> inetpro ^^
[05:00] <anton_may> yip still raining here by me as well
[05:57] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[05:58] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy 
[05:58] <Kilos> oh ye with wonderful net speed
[05:59] <thatgraemeguy> :D
[06:09] <unlaudable> morning... what clients do you guys use for irc?
[06:09] <unlaudable> you seen this privmsg bug?
[06:09] <Kilos> depends on your system
[06:09] <Kilos> xchat and hexchat
[06:10] <Kilos> i use Konversation on kubuntu
[06:10] <unlaudable> well your client anyway...  apparently hexchat isnt affected
[06:10] <Kilos> nope seen no bug here
[06:11] <unlaudable> xchat however... time to change...
[06:12] <unlaudable> been wanting to mention this for ages...
[06:12] <unlaudable> git clone -depth 1
[06:12] <unlaudable> leant about that a week or 2 ago
[06:12] <unlaudable> learnt
[06:12] <unlaudable> learned?
[06:12] <Kilos> what does it do
[06:16] <Cryterion> Mornings
[06:17] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[06:22] <dlPhreak> Good mawning
[06:22] <Kilos> hi dlPhreak 
[06:23] <unlaudable> Kilos, Create a shallow clone with a history truncated to the specified number of revisions.
[06:23] <unlaudable> makes it a lot easier to clone projects that have a lot of history
[06:24] <Kilos> ok
[06:24] <unlaudable> like trying to clone  6 Gb of Zimbra source code
[06:24] <unlaudable> most of it is actually git history ...
[06:25] <Kilos> thats for you clever guys
[06:25] <Kilos> i am an irc greeter bot
[06:25] <dlPhreak> Kilos, unlaudable Cryterion 
[06:29] <unlaudable> heheh
[07:08] <dlPhreak> Anybody use telegram?
[07:11] <magespawn> good morning
[07:19] <dlPhreak> Morning magespawn 
[07:24] <anton_may> i do
[07:24] <anton_may> morning megaspawn
[07:25] <magespawn> how is everyone? we had some awesome rain here last night
[07:25] <dlPhreak> I just got it yesterday. Don't know why I haven't heard of it earlier.
[07:25] <dlPhreak> Pretty good thanks, magespawn, yourself?
[07:25] <anton_may> Yea, awesome rain last night, well the whole night through
[07:26] <dlPhreak> I've been looking for something to replace skype with because of the damn awful linux client.
[07:26] <anton_may> what, you only heard of telegram yesterday?
[07:26] <magespawn> good, thanks, nice cool day 
[07:26] <anton_may> got Nagios to send to notifications via telegram
[07:26] <inetpro> Kilos: 70mm by me
[07:26] <inetpro> good evening everyone
[07:26] <dlPhreak> Yeah and apparently it's quite big.
[07:27] <anton_may> ****Thats what she said****
[07:27] <dlPhreak> lmao
[07:28] <magespawn> anton_may: so your nagios install logs into telegram then send you a message?
[07:28] <magespawn> anton_may: hah
[07:28] <anton_may> yip
[07:29] <magespawn> does the nagios have its own account or does it use a real persons?
[07:29] <anton_may> From telegram desktop - PROBLEM Host : archive-pr - Service : Total Processes is WARNING @ Thu Mar 10 08:49:30 SAST 2016
[07:29] <dlPhreak> @dl_phreak if anyone wants to add :)
[07:29] <anton_may> you can use an exsisting acc or get a new sim card and register it
[07:30] <magespawn> nice, you could then have it update a group too
[07:30] <magespawn> anton_may: i assume the sim card is for registration only
[07:30] <anton_may> yeah
[07:31] <magespawn> there is a mikrotik router 411u that takes a sim card i think, so you could have the nagios server connect via that to send the message incase of fixed lines being down
[07:31] <Kilos> now raining lekker again
[07:32] <Kilos> must be near 50 now
[07:32] <magespawn> anton_may: i like that idea a lot, automatic reporting through a message service
[07:32] <anton_may> no, you connect to a key server the sim is just for registration purpose only
[07:32] <Kilos> dlPhreak telegram rocks
[07:33] <magespawn> anton_may: i was just saying as a back up connection 
[07:33] <anton_may> oh ja
[07:33] <anton_may> my backup is our plain sms
[07:33] <dlPhreak> Kilos: just wish I could completely replace skype and whatsapp with it.
[07:33] <anton_may> notifications
[07:33] <magespawn> dlPhreak: added
[07:34] <Kilos> yes i wish they would work on the audio video side
[07:34] <Kilos> i just use skype audio anyway
[07:34] <Kilos> even that eats data 
[07:35] <Kilos> hows things my magespawn 
[07:36] <dlPhreak> Thanks magespawn \m/
[08:14] <Kilos> hmm... heavy rain, kills connection
[08:16] <anton_may> Yip just pictures from home and the lapa floor is probably foot under water
[08:16] <Kilos> ai!
[08:22] <anton_may> Almost can jump straight from my bed into the pool :D
[08:22] <Kilos> oh my
[08:34] <Kilos> restarting konversation so i can see emoticons
[08:36] <dlPhreak> http://dilbert.com/strip/1999-03-29
[09:14] <Kilos> :D
[09:14] <Kilos> yay i can see them 
[09:14] <Kilos> not just text
[09:55] <Xsm> good day everyone
[09:55] <Kilos> hi Xsm 
[09:57] <Kilos> this is real rain
[09:58] <Xsm> so it's raining by you, good.
[09:58] <Kilos> just 3 to 4 months late
[10:00] <anton_may> You guys know the rsync on steroids command?
[10:00] <Kilos> nope
[10:01] <Kilos> what do steroids help? rsync works well
[10:02] <anton_may> copied 34 gigs at ave rate of 63MB/s
[10:02] <anton_may> usb3
[10:02] <Kilos> thats good
[10:03] <anton_may> rsync -aHAXxv --numeric-ids --delete --progress -e "ssh -T -c arcfour -o Compression=no -x" SOURCE DESTINATION
[10:05] <Xsm> heya chesedo
[10:05] <Xsm> hey anton_may
[10:05] <anton_may> 'Lo Xsm
[10:06] <chesedo> hi Xsm
[10:07] <chesedo> anton_may: why do those flags put it in steroids?
[10:13] <anton_may> I haven't really went into depth in all the options, I just found it on the net and been using for when need to copy big files over servers
[10:14] <anton_may> https://gist.github.com/KartikTalwar/4393116
[10:21] <chesedo> seems to be the ssh options that does it
[10:51] <anton_may> http://xkcd.com/1652/
[11:51] <magespawn> back
[12:06] <Xsm> wb magespawn
[12:07] <magespawn> Xsm how is the server going?
[12:11] <Xsm> Just sat down now again with it, trying to either sort the internet to the internal computers or squid, not sure wich one to do first?
[12:16] <Xsm> Any suggestions magespawn?
[13:07] <unlaudable> anton_may, have you seen the rsync zfs stuff?
[13:09] <unlaudable> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/12/rsync-net-zfs-replication-to-the-cloud-is-finally-here-and-its-fast/
[13:28] <magespawn> Xsm sorry had to run out for a second there
[13:28] <magespawn> maybe the internet to the internal computers 
[13:38] <Xsm> That is what I was thinking magespawn, good idea lol
[13:48] <Xsm> magespawn: the internal computers will be windows pc's. And if my current setup is like this http://bin.snyman.info/mmm8dxbf  then what would I use as a gateway? 192.168.1.1?
[13:48] <Xsm> The internal computers will be on 10.0.0.0/30 range.
[13:55] <magespawn> i think they would need to use the ip of p5p1 so 10.0.0.1, computers cannot communicate outside their address range without a router telling them where to go
[13:56] <Xsm> Ip yes but gateway?
[13:56] <magespawn> 10.0.0.1 wil then pass the traffic to 192.168.1.2 and then onto 192.168.1.1
[13:56] <magespawn> i think if the gateway is the internet gateway that will bypass squid
[13:57] <Xsm> okay that is what I thought, so the next question is what is stopping it? Firewall, squid, or network or dns-servers.
[14:02] <Xsm> http://bin.snyman.info/mmmz38u3  current interfaces file.
[14:04] <magespawn> you can get to the net from the server?
[14:05] <Xsm> I am on it currently.
[14:05] <Xsm> Yes
[14:05] <magespawn> but not from the windows computer?
[14:05] <Xsm> yes
[14:06] <magespawn> do they have a valid ip address from the server?
[14:07] <Xsm> http://bin.snyman.info/mmm8dxbf <--- server with two network cards, 192.168.1.2 to router and internet and then 10.0.01 to internal computers.
[14:08] <magespawn> the computers on the inside of the server network, the windows computers, do they have a valid ip address from the serrver?
[14:08] <Xsm> I can ping 10.0.0.1 from the windows pc (10.0.0.4)
[14:08] <Xsm> all static
[14:09] <Xsm> dedicated ip's
[14:09] <magespawn> is the gateway set on the windows pc as 10.0.0.1
[14:09] <magespawn> ?
[14:12] <Xsm> yes
[14:12] <Xsm> I have just done that.
[14:13] <Xsm> What would the dns be made too, also 10.0.0.1 or something else?
[14:14] <Kilos> not 8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4
[14:15]  * Kilos guseeing
[14:15] <Kilos> guessing
[14:19] <magespawn> if the dns is set to the server that has to be able to pass that to internal network, you need a dns server running on the server machine
[14:20] <Kilos> ai!
[14:20] <Kilos> too much head work these things
[14:20] <Kilos> Xsm <magespawn> if the dns is set to the server that has to be able to pass that to internal network, you need a dns server running on the server machine
[14:20] <inetpro> unlaudable: thanks for sharing the above zfs awesomeness
[14:21] <Kilos> you tried it inetpro 
[14:21] <Kilos> i couldnt figure out how to make that work here
[14:21] <inetpro> Kilos: no, I'm not on ZFS yet
[14:21] <Kilos> oh
[14:21] <inetpro> can't wait though
[14:22] <Kilos> wait i missed something
[14:22] <Kilos> oh ok
[14:22] <Kilos> i dont even look at cloud stuff
[14:22] <inetpro> wish I could lookup when I first started using rsync... think I was right there in the early days
[14:23] <inetpro> ai!
[14:23] <Kilos> so the rsync we use for backups wont change for the better
[14:24] <Kilos> i cant add some awesome magic in it to make it faster
[14:24] <inetpro> oom Kilos, rsync is history when you have ZFS in place of EXT
[14:24] <Kilos> oh my
[14:25] <Kilos> spose i better read some
[14:25] <Kilos> how many months have i got
[14:25] <inetpro> as much as you want
[14:25] <inetpro> or as little as you want
[14:25] <Kilos> and rsync wont disappear
[14:26] <Kilos> its one of the things i remember without having to hunt for a how to
[14:27] <inetpro> there's a new kid on the block, and he's only been around for a few years
[14:27] <Kilos> oh my
[14:27] <Kilos> in place of ext4 you mean
[14:28] <Kilos> z filing system
[14:28] <Kilos> ai!
[14:29] <magespawn> inetpro: this is the first i hear of ZFS
[14:29]  * magespawn goes to do some reading
[14:29] <inetpro> magespawn: you will hear much more about ZFS soon
[14:30] <inetpro> s/hear/see/
[14:30] <Kilos> ai!
[14:30] <inetpro> 16.04 LTS apparently is introducing ZFS on Ubuntu
[14:30] <Kilos> so inetpro what are its advantages
[14:31] <Kilos> ok then i have time till i install 16.04
[14:32] <inetpro> http://dtrace.org/blogs/ahl/2016/03/07/big-news-for-zfs-on-linux/
[14:33] <inetpro> I'm not get all that excited about it just yet, rather wait and see
[14:34] <Kilos> ja
[14:34] <inetpro> when Solaris was still built by Sun Microsystems I was already excited about it but...
[14:35] <Kilos> we arent all that old
[14:35] <inetpro> unfortunately we may still see a few issues play out in a licensing war
[14:35] <Kilos> ai!
[14:37] <Kilos> daai nuwe ou het nie weer kom se of daai webbook werk nie
[14:38] <magespawn> home time for me, chat later all
[14:38] <Kilos> cheers magespawn 
[14:39] <Kilos> what broke
[14:40] <Xsm> had a huge storm, power broke lol
[14:40] <Kilos> lol
[14:40] <Xsm> I am sure magespawn is driving home now.
[14:40] <Kilos> inetpro we totalled 65mm and you were past that at 7am
[14:41] <Kilos> yes he just left boy
[14:41] <Xsm> okay, no problem I will get him when he comes back
[14:44] <Kilos> he will be back just now
[14:45] <Kilos> so if i understand the setup there the win pcs must use the server as a dns and then the server must forward them to the internet
[14:45] <Kilos> how much hair have you got left
[14:47] <Xsm> yes correct
[14:47] <Xsm> I shaved it before I started lol
[14:49] <Kilos> lol
[14:49] <Kilos> ok so from win pc do
[14:49] <Kilos> ping 8.8.8.8
[14:49] <Kilos> there lotsa commands
[14:50] <Kilos> i forgot them
[14:50] <Kilos> traceroute and tracepath
[14:56] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[14:57] <Kilos> Xsm you here??
[14:58] <Xsm> Okay, I can ping the 10.0.0.1 of the p5p1 internal network card and the 192.168.1.2 external network card (from the 10.0.0.4 internal windows pc) but cannot ping 192.168.1.1 and cannot ping 8.8.8.8
[14:58] <Kilos> so its between ext card and internet
[14:58] <Kilos> or router
[14:59] <Kilos> try traceroute
[14:59] <Kilos> you will need to read man traceroute to understand what it says
[14:59] <Xsm> no
[14:59] <Xsm> oh yes sorry
[14:59] <Xsm> well, external card, router, internet!
[14:59] <Kilos> and tracepath
[14:59] <Xsm> okay
[15:00] <Xsm> going to google
[15:00] <Kilos> there are man pages
[15:01] <Kilos> can you ping the router
[15:01] <Kilos> i dunno if that works
[15:02] <Kilos> you are going through the router to get here 
[15:02] <Kilos> so imo could be some settings for external card needed
[15:03] <Xsm> no
[15:03] <Xsm> 192.168.1.1 is the router
[15:04] <Kilos> ai!
[15:04] <Xsm> yes on and with  the server.
[15:05] <Kilos> tracepath i think tells you which jump doesnt work
[15:06] <inetpro> Kilos: when you have time, look at http://www.ipfire.org/
[15:07] <chesedo> Xsm: have you setup iptables masquerading yet?
[15:07] <chesedo> you will need that for the internals to reac the net
[15:07] <chesedo> *reach
[15:07] <Kilos> looking inetpro 
[15:07] <inetpro> not sure whether it is any good but looks interesting
[15:08] <inetpro> perhaps something for that boy of yours
[15:09] <Kilos> he is using arno
[15:09] <Kilos> arno-iptables-firewall i think its called
[15:10] <Kilos> if i tell him to change then superfly will get 
[15:10] <Kilos> um
[15:10] <Kilos> hogwashed with me
[15:10] <Kilos> hehe
[15:11]  * Kilos hides
[15:11] <Xsm> no I haven't chesedo
[15:11] <Xsm> ah okay
[15:11] <Xsm> it does look interesting thank you inetpro
[15:11] <Xsm> Will look closer, later.
[15:11] <Kilos> do the masg stuff
[15:12] <chesedo> arno? have never heard of it... goes to look
[15:12] <Kilos> i had to do it back then
[15:12] <Kilos> dns masg
[15:12] <Kilos> masq
[15:12] <inetpro> the CD image is a mere 159 MB
[15:13] <inetpro> the ipfire iso*
[15:13] <Kilos> thats just for a firewall??
[15:13] <Kilos> whats wrong with gufw
[15:13] <inetpro> ai!
[15:14] <Kilos> wat ai! jy nou weer
[15:14] <inetpro> Kilos: gaan lees oom
[15:14] <Kilos> ok
[15:15] <Xsm> de with you now, someone at the door
[15:15] <Xsm> be
[15:15] <Kilos> ok
[15:16] <chesedo> that arno thing seems to be a firewall only
[15:17] <chesedo> although there is a custom rules file...
[15:17]  * chesedo hopes someone here knows it
[15:17] <Kilos> fly
[15:18] <Kilos> inetpro too much to read man
[15:18] <Kilos> is it an OS
[15:18] <Kilos> or what
[15:20] <chesedo> Xsm: here is a reference of my setup http://bin.snyman.info/mmm7jwbg
[15:32] <Xsm> ty chesedo
[15:40] <Kilos> ai!
[16:01] <Xsm> stupid modem
[16:01] <chesedo> lol
[16:06] <Xsm> chesedo: you still here
[16:36] <Kilos> wb
[16:36] <Xsm> ty
[16:50] <Xsm> hey pavlushka
[16:51] <pavlushka> Xsm, Hi
[16:51] <pavlushka> Xsm, Testing Xubuntu while i was away.
[16:52] <pavlushka> Xsm, A lot of bug gonna be reported, I guess.
[16:52] <pavlushka> Xsm, A lot of bugs gonna be reported, I guess.
[16:53] <pavlushka> Kilos, o/
[16:53] <Xsm> pavlushka: I normally work with kubuntu or kde for short.
[16:54] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[16:54] <pavlushka> Xsm, ya, I've tested that too for own curiosity 
[16:55] <Kilos> i go eat
[16:55] <pavlushka> but this time its a project.
[16:56] <pavlushka> Kilos, eat for me too.
[16:56] <Xsm> for yourself or with others?
[16:56] <Kilos> lol ok
[16:56] <pavlushka> #xubuntu-devel?
[17:12] <chesedo> Xsm: sort of... how you going along?
[17:29] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[17:29] <Kilos> superfly no comments even?
[17:30] <Kilos> how do i tease you if you dont even see what i say hey
[17:30] <Cryterion> hi
[17:45] <Kilos> what is this netflix all about
[17:53] <Kilos> wb unlaudable 
[17:54] <Sxuza> hey Kilos 
[17:54] <Kilos> have you joined us yet
[17:54] <Kilos> hi Sxuza and you
[17:54] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za
[17:56] <Kilos> ive lost track of who i have already got to join us
[17:56] <Sxuza> i havent 
[17:56] <Kilos> please do
[17:57] <Sxuza> i hope it doesnt matter , the fact that i still havnt learnt how to use Ubuntu 
[17:57] <Sxuza> but will soon 
[17:57] <Kilos> nope
[17:57] <Sxuza> im doing my registration 
[17:57] <Kilos> you are here
[17:57] <Kilos> registration for?
[17:57] <Sxuza> on the website 
[17:57] <Sxuza> launchpad 
[17:58] <Sxuza> i thought u were asking me to register 
[17:58] <Kilos> at launchpad
[17:58] <Kilos> that is where all locos keep their records of membership to the loco
[17:59] <Kilos> on the site you can join our mailing list
[18:00] <Sxuza> o ok , well ive just validated and am all good with the account 
[18:00] <Kilos> well done
[18:01] <Kilos> did you ggo to launchpad from the site?
[18:01] <Sxuza> from the link  u posted earlier 
[18:02] <Kilos> yes
[18:02] <Kilos> there is a join this team button
[18:02] <Sxuza> ok lemme check it out 
[18:05] <Sxuza> nope i dont c tht 
[18:05] <Kilos> lemme check
[18:05] <Kilos> you see 82 active members
[18:06] <Kilos> nearn there should be a join this team goodie
[18:06] <Kilos> near
[18:06] <Sxuza> i saw that ealier 
[18:07] <Sxuza> but now im only on the login front page 
[18:07] <Sxuza> and there's nothing to lead me to any other page 
[18:07] <Sxuza> except for ......
[18:07] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za
[18:07] <Kilos> are you on this link
[18:07] <Sxuza> now i see it 
[18:12] <Sxuza> Kilos : do u know anywhere i can find good forums for Lawyers or candidate attorneys , somewhere they discuss LAW 
[18:12] <Sxuza> or like IRC 
[18:12] <Sxuza> someone here just asked me that qtn 
[18:13] <Sxuza> they are doing they atticles and would like a place like "ubuntu" but one that has people discussing LAW issues 
[18:13] <Kilos> ill try find out
[18:13] <Sxuza> kewl 
[18:13] <magespawn> hello, good evening
[18:14] <Sxuza> hey MemoServ 
[18:14] <Sxuza> magespawn 
[18:14] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:14] <Sxuza> damnit 
[18:14] <Kilos> lol
[18:14] <Sxuza> why wud i wanna say hi to it 
[18:14] <magespawn> tab complete
[18:14] <Sxuza> :P
[18:14] <Kilos> magespawn you missed his question
[18:15] <chesedo> Sxuza: think stackexchange might have one, but it will be more for questions
[18:15] <magespawn> okay, repeat/
[18:15] <Kilos> do u know anywhere i can find good forums for Lawyers or candidate attorneys , somewhere they discuss LAW
[18:15] <magespawn> ?
[18:16] <Sxuza> Stackexchange ?
[18:16] <Kilos> http://techrights.org/irc-channel/
[18:16] <magespawn> there are two blogs/sites that i follow, but it mostly has to do with copyright law in america and europe
[18:16] <Kilos> http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/lawofcyberspace/irc2.html
[18:16] <magespawn> Techdirt and a person called Glyn Moody on twitter
[18:20] <chesedo> http://law.stackexchange.com/
[18:20] <chesedo> it is in beta currently
[18:21] <magespawn> https://www.techdirt.com/
[18:22] <magespawn> chesedo: sometimes things stay in beta for a long time
[18:23] <chesedo> magespawn: jip, am (suppose) to help on joomla's which is in its 600th something day
[18:24] <Kilos> lol
[18:24] <chesedo> anyway, night all
[18:24] <magespawn> chesedo: good night
[18:24] <magespawn> boo
[18:24] <Kilos> night chesedo 
[18:24] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:29] <magespawn> Xsm how is the server?
[18:30] <Kilos> he is battling to get internal pcs to connect to the net
[18:30] <Kilos> doing that
[18:30] <Kilos> um
[18:30] <Kilos> masq stuff i think
[18:31] <magespawn> there has to be a link between the two network connectors
[18:36] <magespawn> i am not sure how to do that, a network bridge, the inside network has to route the traffic that is allowed to pass through to the outside network
[18:36] <superfly> Kilos: sorry, I've been busy today.
[18:37] <Kilos> np superfly was just teasing you anyway
[18:37] <Kilos> all good there?
[18:37] <magespawn> then the setting of the firewall comes into play
[18:38] <Kilos> all too involved for me
[18:40] <magespawn> it is something i would like to put in place for most of the lodge staff computers
[18:41] <Kilos> yes but is it only manageable with 2 network cards
[18:41] <Kilos> thats where all the hard work comes in
[18:41] <magespawn> the way i understand you can have the proxy server with one card
[18:42] <magespawn> but the you have to put the proxy server into each computer
[18:42] <Kilos> but he is going to do his home one as well and will have it all worked out so then you dont have to battle
[18:42] <Kilos> thats even more work with 20 pcs
[18:45] <magespawn> if you set the proxy on the client computers then they have to check with the proxy server before they go online, you can then control on the proxy what the people can and cannot do
[18:45] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:45] <magespawn> you lock the client computer by making the people have an ordinary account instead of an adnministrator account
[18:46] <Kilos> well
[18:46] <Kilos> if this thing with 2 dards works and ian has it all recorded then should be easier
[18:47] <Kilos> and net cards arent expensive
[18:47] <magespawn> i think the two seperate networks might give you finer control and maybe more security, but i stand to be corrected on that
[18:48] <superfly> Kilos: ja, good. just had my hands full with DebConf and work
[18:48] <magespawn> superfly: that must be keeping you really busy
[18:49] <superfly> somewhat. I've been fighting django a bit
[18:50] <magespawn> django? what is it not doing?
[18:50] <magespawn> hi Xsm
[18:50] <Xsm> hey magespawn
[18:51] <magespawn> progress?
[18:51] <Xsm> been away for a while
[18:51] <Xsm> looking at it again now
[18:55] <Xsm> magespawn: have you used arno's firewall?
[18:57] <Kilos> is it arnos blocking Xsm 
[18:57] <Kilos> and is the routers firewall still working as well
[18:57] <Xsm> I don't know but I must start somewhere. Don't think it is, because if I disable it, then it should work.
[18:58] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:58] <Xsm> Yeah I was thinking if the router firewall wasn't clashing.
[18:58] <Kilos> have you done the masquerading thing
[18:59] <Xsm> Busy with that but that is in the firewall.
[19:00] <Kilos> i remember i had to run a command to get that working every reboot
[19:00] <Kilos> was a pain
[19:00] <Kilos> useless on a big server
[19:01] <Kilos> neology giving erros and saix is super slow
[19:10] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:23] <inetpro> wb Symmetria
[19:23] <inetpro> good mornings
[19:23] <inetpro> good mornings everyone as well
[19:24] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[19:24] <Kilos> total 65
[19:24] <Xsm> heya inetpro
[19:24] <Kilos> you had more before breakfast
[19:24] <inetpro> more?
[19:25] <Kilos> you ha 77 before breakfast
[19:25] <inetpro> oh no hang on
[19:25] <Kilos> wake up man
[19:25] <inetpro> sorry oom
[19:25] <Kilos> hhaha
[19:25] <inetpro> had 18 yesterday evening
[19:25] <inetpro> 77 this morning
[19:25] <Kilos> oh
[19:25] <inetpro> and 24 during the day
[19:25] <Kilos> some places in and around ptown had over 100mm
[19:25] <inetpro> so what's that, 112?
[19:26] <Kilos> harties moes hulle sluice oop maak
[19:26] <Kilos> wow
[19:26] <Kilos> we had 65mm total
[19:26]  * inetpro does the rain dance 
[19:26] <Kilos> nothing yesterday
[19:26] <Kilos> but everything lekker wet
[19:27] <Xsm> lol
[19:27] <Kilos> bit late for summer crops
[19:27] <Kilos> only cabbage i think still and wheat
[19:28] <inetpro> and I think more rain is coming
[19:28] <magespawn> Xsm: no never
[19:28] <Xsm> very
[19:28] <Xsm> A lot haven't even planted.
[19:28] <Xsm> sunflower and soya too - but soya is on irrigation.
[19:28] <Kilos> soya is summer
[19:28] <Kilos> too late now
[19:29] <Kilos> sunflower as well
[19:29] <Xsm> Only late for the summer crops magespawn, but very much needed.
[19:29] <Xsm> Kruger is flooding again.
[19:29] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:30] <Kilos> ok i sleep now
[19:30] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:30] <magespawn> sorry, i was talking about the firewall, came in a bit late on that conversation
[19:30] <magespawn> good night Kilos 
[19:30] <Kilos> actually Xsm disable all firewalls fo now
[19:31] <Kilos> once you can connect then sort them
[19:31] <Kilos> night
[19:31] <Xsm> ha ha ha magespawn
[19:31] <Xsm> I tried in the router, can't find any trace of that.
[19:34] <magespawn> most routers have firewall, but they usually work on a deny all principle
[19:34] <magespawn> what router do you have?
[19:35] <Xsm> d-link
[19:36] <Xsm> dsl-2750u
[19:37] <magespawn> they run on a version of linux i think, i forget the version of server, one specailly for small embedded systems
[19:38] <unlaudable> joined
[19:41] <magespawn> Xsm: there are other opensource and 3rd party firmware, openwrt and dd-wrt, that can run on routers
[19:41] <magespawn> they give you more options and control
[19:42] <Xsm> I am thinking of uninstalling squid3 for now, and trying to eliminate one for one, what is stopping the internal internet connections.
[19:43] <Xsm> Interesting. I would change my router but not the clients router.
[19:43] <magespawn> this is the software they run http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man8/micro-httpd.8.html
[19:44] <magespawn> why not change the clients if it possible?
[19:47] <magespawn> i have linksys router that are running dd-wrt, i like them quite a bit
[19:48] <magespawn> s/router/routers
[19:49] <magespawn> any way, keep us up to date, and if there are any questions etc i will try to help
[19:49] <magespawn> bed time for me now, good night all
[21:37] <unlaudable> and today I learned about http://httpbin.org/