[04:24] morning za peeps [04:34] Hello [04:35] early bird hey anton_may [04:35] yip usually in at the office around 6'ish [04:35] wow [04:37] took me 3 hours to get home last night [04:37] traffic? [04:37] yip and the rain didn't help either [04:38] what time is hometime [04:39] 4 [04:39] ouch long days [04:40] well probably would in later if i lived closer, but hey, these days work is work [04:40] yip [04:40] McD's food might not be the healthiest, but their coffe is top notch [04:41] lol [04:42] wake up superfly or youll miss your stop === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [04:53] for once the weather liar got it right, 47mm so far since last night [04:53] inetpro ^^ [05:00] yip still raining here by me as well [05:57] mornings [05:58] hi thatgraemeguy [05:58] oh ye with wonderful net speed [05:59] :D [06:09] morning... what clients do you guys use for irc? [06:09] you seen this privmsg bug? [06:09] depends on your system [06:09] xchat and hexchat [06:10] i use Konversation on kubuntu [06:10] well your client anyway... apparently hexchat isnt affected [06:10] nope seen no bug here [06:11] xchat however... time to change... [06:12] been wanting to mention this for ages... [06:12] git clone -depth 1 [06:12] leant about that a week or 2 ago [06:12] learnt [06:12] learned? [06:12] what does it do [06:16] Mornings [06:17] hi Cryterion [06:22] Good mawning [06:22] hi dlPhreak [06:23] Kilos, Create a shallow clone with a history truncated to the specified number of revisions. [06:23] makes it a lot easier to clone projects that have a lot of history [06:24] ok [06:24] like trying to clone 6 Gb of Zimbra source code [06:24] most of it is actually git history ... [06:25] thats for you clever guys [06:25] i am an irc greeter bot [06:25] Kilos, unlaudable Cryterion [06:29] heheh [07:08] Anybody use telegram? [07:11] good morning [07:19] Morning magespawn [07:24] i do [07:24] morning megaspawn [07:25] how is everyone? we had some awesome rain here last night [07:25] I just got it yesterday. Don't know why I haven't heard of it earlier. [07:25] Pretty good thanks, magespawn, yourself? [07:25] Yea, awesome rain last night, well the whole night through [07:26] I've been looking for something to replace skype with because of the damn awful linux client. [07:26] what, you only heard of telegram yesterday? [07:26] good, thanks, nice cool day [07:26] got Nagios to send to notifications via telegram [07:26] Kilos: 70mm by me [07:26] good evening everyone [07:26] Yeah and apparently it's quite big. [07:27] ****Thats what she said**** [07:27] lmao [07:28] anton_may: so your nagios install logs into telegram then send you a message? [07:28] anton_may: hah [07:28] yip [07:29] does the nagios have its own account or does it use a real persons? [07:29] From telegram desktop - PROBLEM Host : archive-pr - Service : Total Processes is WARNING @ Thu Mar 10 08:49:30 SAST 2016 [07:29] @dl_phreak if anyone wants to add :) [07:29] you can use an exsisting acc or get a new sim card and register it [07:30] nice, you could then have it update a group too [07:30] anton_may: i assume the sim card is for registration only [07:30] yeah [07:31] there is a mikrotik router 411u that takes a sim card i think, so you could have the nagios server connect via that to send the message incase of fixed lines being down [07:31] now raining lekker again [07:32] must be near 50 now [07:32] anton_may: i like that idea a lot, automatic reporting through a message service [07:32] no, you connect to a key server the sim is just for registration purpose only [07:32] dlPhreak telegram rocks [07:33] anton_may: i was just saying as a back up connection [07:33] oh ja [07:33] my backup is our plain sms [07:33] Kilos: just wish I could completely replace skype and whatsapp with it. [07:33] notifications [07:33] dlPhreak: added [07:34] yes i wish they would work on the audio video side [07:34] i just use skype audio anyway [07:34] even that eats data [07:35] hows things my magespawn [07:36] Thanks magespawn \m/ [08:14] hmm... heavy rain, kills connection [08:16] Yip just pictures from home and the lapa floor is probably foot under water [08:16] ai! [08:22] Almost can jump straight from my bed into the pool :D [08:22] oh my [08:34] restarting konversation so i can see emoticons [08:36] http://dilbert.com/strip/1999-03-29 [09:14] :D [09:14] yay i can see them [09:14] not just text === aalston_ is now known as Symmetria [09:55] good day everyone [09:55] hi Xsm [09:57] this is real rain [09:58] so it's raining by you, good. [09:58] just 3 to 4 months late [10:00] You guys know the rsync on steroids command? [10:00] nope [10:01] what do steroids help? rsync works well [10:02] copied 34 gigs at ave rate of 63MB/s [10:02] usb3 [10:02] thats good [10:03] rsync -aHAXxv --numeric-ids --delete --progress -e "ssh -T -c arcfour -o Compression=no -x" SOURCE DESTINATION [10:05] heya chesedo [10:05] hey anton_may [10:05] 'Lo Xsm [10:06] hi Xsm [10:07] anton_may: why do those flags put it in steroids? [10:13] I haven't really went into depth in all the options, I just found it on the net and been using for when need to copy big files over servers [10:14] https://gist.github.com/KartikTalwar/4393116 [10:21] seems to be the ssh options that does it [10:51] http://xkcd.com/1652/ === MaNL is now known as MaNI [11:51] back [12:06] wb magespawn [12:07] Xsm how is the server going? [12:11] Just sat down now again with it, trying to either sort the internet to the internal computers or squid, not sure wich one to do first? [12:16] Any suggestions magespawn? [13:07] anton_may, have you seen the rsync zfs stuff? [13:09] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/12/rsync-net-zfs-replication-to-the-cloud-is-finally-here-and-its-fast/ [13:28] Xsm sorry had to run out for a second there [13:28] maybe the internet to the internal computers [13:38] That is what I was thinking magespawn, good idea lol [13:48] magespawn: the internal computers will be windows pc's. And if my current setup is like this http://bin.snyman.info/mmm8dxbf then what would I use as a gateway? 192.168.1.1? [13:48] The internal computers will be on 10.0.0.0/30 range. [13:55] i think they would need to use the ip of p5p1 so 10.0.0.1, computers cannot communicate outside their address range without a router telling them where to go [13:56] Ip yes but gateway? [13:56] 10.0.0.1 wil then pass the traffic to 192.168.1.2 and then onto 192.168.1.1 [13:56] i think if the gateway is the internet gateway that will bypass squid [13:57] okay that is what I thought, so the next question is what is stopping it? Firewall, squid, or network or dns-servers. [14:02] http://bin.snyman.info/mmmz38u3 current interfaces file. [14:04] you can get to the net from the server? [14:05] I am on it currently. [14:05] Yes [14:05] but not from the windows computer? [14:05] yes [14:06] do they have a valid ip address from the server? [14:07] http://bin.snyman.info/mmm8dxbf <--- server with two network cards, 192.168.1.2 to router and internet and then 10.0.01 to internal computers. [14:08] the computers on the inside of the server network, the windows computers, do they have a valid ip address from the serrver? [14:08] I can ping 10.0.0.1 from the windows pc (10.0.0.4) [14:08] all static [14:09] dedicated ip's [14:09] is the gateway set on the windows pc as 10.0.0.1 [14:09] ? [14:12] yes [14:12] I have just done that. [14:13] What would the dns be made too, also 10.0.0.1 or something else? [14:14] not 8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4 [14:15] * Kilos guseeing [14:15] guessing [14:19] if the dns is set to the server that has to be able to pass that to internal network, you need a dns server running on the server machine [14:20] ai! [14:20] too much head work these things [14:20] Xsm if the dns is set to the server that has to be able to pass that to internal network, you need a dns server running on the server machine [14:20] unlaudable: thanks for sharing the above zfs awesomeness [14:21] you tried it inetpro [14:21] i couldnt figure out how to make that work here [14:21] Kilos: no, I'm not on ZFS yet [14:21] oh [14:21] can't wait though [14:22] wait i missed something [14:22] oh ok [14:22] i dont even look at cloud stuff [14:22] wish I could lookup when I first started using rsync... think I was right there in the early days [14:23] ai! [14:23] so the rsync we use for backups wont change for the better [14:24] i cant add some awesome magic in it to make it faster [14:24] oom Kilos, rsync is history when you have ZFS in place of EXT [14:24] oh my [14:25] spose i better read some [14:25] how many months have i got [14:25] as much as you want [14:25] or as little as you want [14:25] and rsync wont disappear [14:26] its one of the things i remember without having to hunt for a how to [14:27] there's a new kid on the block, and he's only been around for a few years [14:27] oh my [14:27] in place of ext4 you mean [14:28] z filing system [14:28] ai! [14:29] inetpro: this is the first i hear of ZFS [14:29] * magespawn goes to do some reading [14:29] magespawn: you will hear much more about ZFS soon [14:30] s/hear/see/ [14:30] ai! [14:30] 16.04 LTS apparently is introducing ZFS on Ubuntu [14:30] so inetpro what are its advantages [14:31] ok then i have time till i install 16.04 [14:32] http://dtrace.org/blogs/ahl/2016/03/07/big-news-for-zfs-on-linux/ [14:33] I'm not get all that excited about it just yet, rather wait and see [14:34] ja [14:34] when Solaris was still built by Sun Microsystems I was already excited about it but... [14:35] we arent all that old [14:35] unfortunately we may still see a few issues play out in a licensing war [14:35] ai! [14:37] daai nuwe ou het nie weer kom se of daai webbook werk nie [14:38] home time for me, chat later all [14:38] cheers magespawn [14:39] what broke [14:40] had a huge storm, power broke lol [14:40] lol [14:40] I am sure magespawn is driving home now. [14:40] inetpro we totalled 65mm and you were past that at 7am [14:41] yes he just left boy [14:41] okay, no problem I will get him when he comes back [14:44] he will be back just now [14:45] so if i understand the setup there the win pcs must use the server as a dns and then the server must forward them to the internet [14:45] how much hair have you got left [14:47] yes correct [14:47] I shaved it before I started lol [14:49] lol [14:49] ok so from win pc do [14:49] ping 8.8.8.8 [14:49] there lotsa commands [14:50] i forgot them [14:50] traceroute and tracepath [14:56] ohi superfly [14:57] Xsm you here?? [14:58] Okay, I can ping the 10.0.0.1 of the p5p1 internal network card and the 192.168.1.2 external network card (from the 10.0.0.4 internal windows pc) but cannot ping 192.168.1.1 and cannot ping 8.8.8.8 [14:58] so its between ext card and internet [14:58] or router [14:59] try traceroute [14:59] you will need to read man traceroute to understand what it says [14:59] no [14:59] oh yes sorry [14:59] well, external card, router, internet! [14:59] and tracepath [14:59] okay [15:00] going to google [15:00] there are man pages [15:01] can you ping the router [15:01] i dunno if that works [15:02] you are going through the router to get here [15:02] so imo could be some settings for external card needed [15:03] no [15:03] 192.168.1.1 is the router [15:04] ai! [15:04] yes on and with the server. [15:05] tracepath i think tells you which jump doesnt work [15:06] Kilos: when you have time, look at http://www.ipfire.org/ [15:07] Xsm: have you setup iptables masquerading yet? [15:07] you will need that for the internals to reac the net [15:07] *reach [15:07] looking inetpro [15:07] not sure whether it is any good but looks interesting [15:08] perhaps something for that boy of yours [15:09] he is using arno [15:09] arno-iptables-firewall i think its called [15:10] if i tell him to change then superfly will get [15:10] um [15:10] hogwashed with me [15:10] hehe [15:11] * Kilos hides [15:11] no I haven't chesedo [15:11] ah okay [15:11] it does look interesting thank you inetpro [15:11] Will look closer, later. [15:11] do the masg stuff [15:12] arno? have never heard of it... goes to look [15:12] i had to do it back then [15:12] dns masg [15:12] masq [15:12] the CD image is a mere 159 MB [15:13] the ipfire iso* [15:13] thats just for a firewall?? [15:13] whats wrong with gufw [15:13] ai! [15:14] wat ai! jy nou weer [15:14] Kilos: gaan lees oom [15:14] ok [15:15] de with you now, someone at the door [15:15] be [15:15] ok [15:16] that arno thing seems to be a firewall only [15:17] although there is a custom rules file... [15:17] * chesedo hopes someone here knows it [15:17] fly [15:18] inetpro too much to read man [15:18] is it an OS [15:18] or what [15:20] Xsm: here is a reference of my setup http://bin.snyman.info/mmm7jwbg [15:32] ty chesedo [15:40] ai! [16:01] stupid modem [16:01] lol [16:06] chesedo: you still here [16:36] wb [16:36] ty [16:50] hey pavlushka [16:51] Xsm, Hi [16:51] Xsm, Testing Xubuntu while i was away. [16:52] Xsm, A lot of bug gonna be reported, I guess. [16:52] Xsm, A lot of bugs gonna be reported, I guess. [16:53] Kilos, o/ [16:53] pavlushka: I normally work with kubuntu or kde for short. [16:54] hi pavlushka [16:54] Xsm, ya, I've tested that too for own curiosity [16:55] i go eat [16:55] but this time its a project. [16:56] Kilos, eat for me too. [16:56] for yourself or with others? [16:56] lol ok [16:56] #xubuntu-devel? [17:12] Xsm: sort of... how you going along? [17:29] hi Cryterion [17:29] superfly no comments even? [17:30] how do i tease you if you dont even see what i say hey [17:30] hi [17:45] what is this netflix all about [17:53] wb unlaudable [17:54] hey Kilos [17:54] have you joined us yet [17:54] hi Sxuza and you [17:54] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za [17:56] ive lost track of who i have already got to join us [17:56] i havent [17:56] please do [17:57] i hope it doesnt matter , the fact that i still havnt learnt how to use Ubuntu [17:57] but will soon [17:57] nope [17:57] im doing my registration [17:57] you are here [17:57] registration for? [17:57] on the website [17:57] launchpad [17:58] i thought u were asking me to register [17:58] at launchpad [17:58] that is where all locos keep their records of membership to the loco [17:59] on the site you can join our mailing list [18:00] o ok , well ive just validated and am all good with the account [18:00] well done [18:01] did you ggo to launchpad from the site? [18:01] from the link u posted earlier [18:02] yes [18:02] there is a join this team button [18:02] ok lemme check it out [18:05] nope i dont c tht [18:05] lemme check [18:05] you see 82 active members [18:06] nearn there should be a join this team goodie [18:06] near [18:06] i saw that ealier [18:07] but now im only on the login front page [18:07] and there's nothing to lead me to any other page [18:07] except for ...... [18:07] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za [18:07] are you on this link [18:07] now i see it [18:12] Kilos : do u know anywhere i can find good forums for Lawyers or candidate attorneys , somewhere they discuss LAW [18:12] or like IRC [18:12] someone here just asked me that qtn [18:13] they are doing they atticles and would like a place like "ubuntu" but one that has people discussing LAW issues [18:13] ill try find out [18:13] kewl [18:13] hello, good evening [18:14] hey MemoServ [18:14] magespawn [18:14] hi magespawn [18:14] damnit [18:14] lol [18:14] why wud i wanna say hi to it [18:14] tab complete [18:14] :P [18:14] magespawn you missed his question [18:15] Sxuza: think stackexchange might have one, but it will be more for questions [18:15] okay, repeat/ [18:15] do u know anywhere i can find good forums for Lawyers or candidate attorneys , somewhere they discuss LAW [18:15] ? [18:16] Stackexchange ? [18:16] http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ [18:16] there are two blogs/sites that i follow, but it mostly has to do with copyright law in america and europe [18:16] http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/lawofcyberspace/irc2.html [18:16] Techdirt and a person called Glyn Moody on twitter [18:20] http://law.stackexchange.com/ [18:20] it is in beta currently [18:21] https://www.techdirt.com/ [18:22] chesedo: sometimes things stay in beta for a long time [18:23] magespawn: jip, am (suppose) to help on joomla's which is in its 600th something day [18:24] lol [18:24] anyway, night all [18:24] chesedo: good night [18:24] boo [18:24] night chesedo [18:24] sleep tight [18:29] Xsm how is the server? [18:30] he is battling to get internal pcs to connect to the net [18:30] doing that [18:30] um [18:30] masq stuff i think [18:31] there has to be a link between the two network connectors [18:36]