[00:00] <devslash> I guess not
[00:00] <bodom> so why add an extra layer of complications? :)
[00:00] <devslash> thats why I chose a regular non lvm partitioning scheme
[00:00] <karl_> can you run android on linux as android is linux
[00:01] <karl_> like apps
[00:01] <nicomachus> karl_: no. you can run an Android VM with linux as the host OS though.
[00:01] <bodom> karl_: there is an emulator that is part of the android sdk
[00:02] <tgm4883> bodom: I don't use LVM, but to be fair, there is an argument for adding a little more complexity now in order to save a lot of headache later (not speaking specifically about LVM)
[00:02] <karl_> how bout mac os x apps and windows apps i know wine runs windows apps is there anything else apart from wine
[00:03] <bodom> tgm4883: it's a bet :)
[00:03] <weirddude> alright im trying with usb
[00:04] <weirddude> Lol
[00:04] <weirddude> i think its that tpm thing
[00:04] <weirddude> i really do
[00:04] <bodom> karl_: Mac OSX apps are illegal to run anywhere expect on OSX. About windows, you can emulate it too.
[00:04] <bodom> *except
[00:04] <weirddude> because once i disabled bitlocker now its crashing faster than it was before
[00:05] <karl_> hoq so u emulate windows apps
[00:05] <nicomachus> karl_: Play On Linux, but all it does is set up programs to run through Wine.
[00:05] <karl_> how do you emulate windows apps as i got alot i want to put on linux#
[00:05] <nicomachus> karl_: best to just find alternatives.
[00:06] <karl_> ok
[00:06] <nicomachus> but we're veering off-topic, especially if you aren't running Ubuntu
[00:06] <bodom> karl_: but if you want to run android apps, macosx apps, and windows apps, probably linux isn't your best choice. :)
[00:06] <karl_> ok
[00:06] <bodom> karl_: linux is best at running linux apps :P
[00:06] <karl_> im new to linux
[00:07] <karl_> so im need to get used top it]#
[00:07] <weirddude> snowgoggles: If i cant find anything about the tpm module in bios where else could it be?
[00:10] <snowgoggles> weirddude:  it's crashing faster cause it's not a dvd
[00:10] <weirddude> snowgoggles oh ok
[00:10] <daftykins> snowgoggles + weirddude what's the actual issue here? i see TPM talk and highly doubt it
[00:11] <snowgoggles> weirddude: check the docs on hp site for your system...TPM stands for trusted platform module it should be located in the security section in your bios.  try to find official docs for your machine
[00:11] <bilb_ono> does anyone know a command line tool where I can output colors? color-preview #23be4d
[00:12] <bilb_ono> and then it outputs a little square in the terminal with that color
[00:12] <bilb_ono> or a loop where it does that?
[00:13] <daftykins> maybe ask #freenode how to annoy others ;)
[00:15] <mekhami> i could really use some help with these fonts
[00:15] <mekhami> i have apparently like  9 different font-awesome installed (at least that's what i see in gnome-font-viewer)
[00:16] <mekhami> and it hink that's leading to this problem
[00:24] <guillermo_> qué es esto?
[00:24] <daftykins> english
[00:25] <mekhami> what in the hell is wrong with this thing
[00:25] <mekhami> i just removed all the fonts from .fonts
[00:25] <mekhami> installed fonts-font-awesome via apt-get
[00:25] <mekhami> still nothing
[00:27] <mekhami> except now even the chrome icon doesn't work
[00:28] <devslash> I just installed Ubuntu Server and want to connect to a windows share. Is this the correct command to run ? sudo smbclient -L //MYCOMPUTERHOSTNAME -U myusername
[00:29] <mekhami> this is really annoying
[00:29] <daftykins> one might ponder if said fonts app is not what it says on the tin
[00:30] <daftykins> devslash: you'll have some fun and games dealing with smbclient to actually transfer files, what's the goal here?
[00:30] <devslash> transfering files from windows host to my ubuntu VM
[00:30] <daftykins> get WinSCP for your Windows machine and transfer like that, far easier
[00:30] <weirddude> snowgoggles i literally cant find anything on turning off TPM. all the options on every tutorial i checked dont work
[00:30] <devslash> what is that
[00:31] <devslash> is that for ftp based transfers ?
[00:31] <daftykins> not quite, SFTP
[00:31] <daftykins> !sftp
[00:31] <daftykins> er
[00:31] <daftykins> !scp
[00:31] <devslash> i aklready have an ftp/sftp client on my windows machine
[00:31] <daftykins> that's not the same thing
[00:31] <daftykins> SFTP and FTPS are entirely different animals
[00:32] <devslash> sudo but you said that its for sftp
[00:32] <daftykins> devslash: for samba land, ideally you want to run "sudo mkdir /media/server" to create a mount point then run "sudo mount -t cifs //IP/share /media/server -o username=blah,password=blah,iocharset=utf8"
[00:32] <daftykins> why did you just say sudo? i don't know what you're asking
[00:33] <devslash> typo
[00:33] <daftykins> install openssh-server in the VM and then install WinSCP
[00:33] <devslash> ignore
[00:33] <daftykins> get it done.
[00:33] <tgm4883> devslash: what is the hypervisor?
[00:33] <devslash> hyper-V
[00:33] <daftykins> disgusting :P
[00:34] <tgm4883> double yuck, I'm not sure if there are linux tools for hyper-v or not
[00:34] <devslash> well thats like your opinion man
[00:34] <daftykins> waste of time, just do it properly as described two separate ways
[00:34] <tgm4883> if you are just transferring some files, then samba is probably the easiest way to go.
[00:35] <daftykins> lol no
[00:35] <tgm4883> daftykins: no?
[00:35] <daftykins> look at my example command above vs. installing WinSCP
[00:35] <devslash> thanks ive got it working
[00:35] <devslash> using ssh
[00:36] <daftykins> mmhmm
[00:36] <tgm4883> daftykins: yes I see that
[00:36] <mekhami> so the package fonts-font-awesome in the universe thing is outdated
[00:37] <mekhami> how does one get an updated version, or convince the maintainers to update it
[00:37] <mekhami> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/fonts-font-awesome
[00:37] <daftykins> suggest renaming to fonts-font-diabolical
[00:37] <daftykins> buy them beers
[00:37] <weirddude> snowgoggles i have a tpm driver
[00:37] <tgm4883> mekhami: first you'd need to file a bug against the package
[00:38] <tgm4883> actually
[00:38] <nacc> mekhami: to update the version in trusty, you'd need to be fixing a bug at this point (it's an LTS and already released)
[00:39] <tgm4883> mekhami: actually, you'll need to either find a PPA, or package it yourself/compile
[00:39] <nacc> mekhami: if you want the latest version in ubuntu, you'd need the latest ubuntu (e.g., xenial has 4.5.0~dfsg-1)
[00:39] <mekhami> how about 'your source is over a year old'
[00:39] <mekhami> nacc: i have ubuntu 15.10 is that what you're talking about?
[00:39] <tgm4883> mekhami: 16.04 has 4.5.0
[00:39] <nacc> mekhami: 15.10 has 4.3.0~dfsg-2 ... is there a bug you're hitting?
[00:39] <nacc> mekhami: 16.04 has 4.5.0 as mentioned
[00:39] <mekhami> i need 4.4+
[00:40] <nacc> mekhami: then you'll need to wait for 16.04
[00:40] <mekhami> 4.3 is over a year old
[00:40] <mekhami> that seems really stupid
[00:40] <mekhami> why can't they update it
[00:40] <mekhami> given it's been over a year since 4.3 was released
[00:40] <mekhami> and several months since 4.5 came out
[00:40] <tgm4883> mekhami: it's not a critical package
[00:40] <nacc> right, which is why it's updated in xenail, to 4.5.0
[00:40] <mekhami> so basically
[00:40] <mekhami> unless you update your distro version
[00:40] <mekhami> you can never get up to date packages
[00:41] <tgm4883> mekhami: that isn't true at all
[00:41] <mekhami> unless some magical man behind the curtain has a whim to update something
[00:41] <tgm4883> mekhami: it's an unsupported package
[00:41] <nacc> mekhami: that's true, in that, packages don't just get updated automatically
[00:41] <tgm4883> mekhami: it's maintained by the community, not canonical
[00:41] <n-iCe> Hi guys
[00:41] <n-iCe> why would you guys prefer ubuntu over lubuntu ?
[00:41] <nacc> mekhami: it also depends on debian in this case, i believe when wily release, debian had 4.3.0 and no one asked for 4.4.0
[00:42] <mekhami> nacc: tgm4883 so my question again, is who do ineed to talk to for what seems like a super trivial update
[00:42] <weirddude> snowgoggles ok found it
[00:42] <nacc> mekhami: starting with xenial, fwiw, that package is in main, so it will get security support
[00:42] <nacc> mekhami: you can do it yourself, if you want to learn, or file a bug
[00:42] <mekhami> nacc: i'd love to learn
[00:42] <mekhami> nacc: where do i start
[00:42] <k1l_> n-iCe: for the looks its your choice. if its a slow and/or old hardware better go with lubuntu
[00:42] <tgm4883> mekhami: you need to talk to yourself, because it's not getting updated in trusty official repos
[00:42] <nacc> tgm4883: i think they said they were on 15.10
[00:43] <n-iCe> k1l_: but seems to be working even better with newer hardware, don't you think'
[00:43] <nacc> mekhami: what bugfix does 4.4.0 provide that 4.3.0 doesn't, that you're hitting?
[00:43] <n-iCe> k1l_: what's your DE? unity?
[00:43] <mekhami> nacc: it's not bugs, 4.4 and 4.5 provide a whole host of new icons
[00:43] <tgm4883> mekhami: probably the best place to start would be http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/
[00:43] <daftykins> n-iCe: i find lubuntu ugly as all hell
[00:43] <mekhami> (and possibly other things but that's what i'm concerned about)
[00:43] <k1l_> n-iCe: no
[00:43] <n-iCe> daftykins: really? 15.10?
[00:44] <devslash> does ubuntu server have a built in firewall
[00:44] <nacc> mekhami: then probably you won't see any updated to that package unless you do the steps needed yourself (or someone else in teh community cares to). the link tgm4883 sent is a good start
[00:44] <mekhami> nacc: i'll look into it
[00:44] <tgm4883> devslash: yes, as does other flavors of ubuntu
[00:44] <tgm4883> !ufw | devslash
[00:44] <devslash> iptables or ufs
[00:44] <devslash> ufw
[00:44] <n-iCe> then why Ubuntu k1l_ what do you use?
[00:45] <tgm4883> n-iCe: this is really off topic
[00:45] <daftykins> n-iCe: all the cool kids stick to LTS only
[00:45] <k1l_> n-iCe: why not? its your choice what you like best.
[00:45] <daftykins> n-iCe: yeah take the "what do you run?" pointless stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[00:46] <n-iCe> besides the DE, are there differences between both?
[00:46] <k1l_> yes. lubuntu uses zram
[00:46] <daftykins> default tools all differ
[00:47] <daftykins> why don't you read... their website
[00:47] <weirddude> daftykins you said earlier that you highly doubted my issue was TPM?
[00:47] <n-iCe> googlinh zram
[00:47] <daftykins> weirddude: well you both ignored my query as to WHAT was going on, so i figured it wasn't worth trying to help
[00:47] <weirddude> daftykins well i apologize ill explain
[00:47] <daftykins> if it's long use a pastebin, keep it on one line too
[00:49] <weirddude> I tried literally everyting (turning off secure boot, enabling legacy boot, acpi = off, nomodset, booting from EFI file, radeon.0
[00:50] <daftykins> heh, that was ace timing
[00:52] <weirddude> I tried everything to boot Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my HP Envy m4 1015-dx to no avail. I tried turning off Secure boot, enabling legacy boot, booting from efi, making sure my iso was verified, using nomodeset, acpi=off, radeon.0(something like this) = off.
[00:53] <weirddude> now im trying to disable TPM and bitlocker (windows 10 is installed) but i apparantly dont have a compatible tpm. i stopped the bitlocker service however.
[00:54] <daftykins> weirddude: how did you prepare the USB flash drive? does it work in another system, either legacy or EFI boot?
[00:55] <weirddude> daftykins rufus, works on other systems, ive tried both uefi and efi.
[00:55] <daftykins> weirddude: ok is it 14.04.4?
[00:56] <daftykins> weirddude: we've seen some systems require that a supervisor password be created to unlock further options
[00:56] <weirddude> daftykins Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[00:56] <daftykins> no i asked SPECIFICALLY which point release the ISO was
[00:56] <weirddude> give me a moment ill check
[00:59] <weirddude> yes 14.04.4 daftykins
[01:05] <weirddude> daftykins: so where do i type in the supervisor password?
[01:06] <weirddude> heh
[01:06] <daftykins> into the EFI...
[01:06] <daftykins> you know how to enter it right?
[01:07] <weirddude> yes lol
[01:08] <seeit_> hi, once i've created a zfs file system how do I access it using a normal user?
[01:09] <paracusia> hello, which opensource ssd-caching solution would you prefer?
[01:10] <daftykins> seeit_: mount it and assign permissions
[01:11] <daftykins> paracusia: none, full SSD for the OS is ideal
[01:11] <paracusia> i need it for storage
[01:11] <daftykins> why
[01:11] <seeit_> do I mount /pool/projects or /dev/sdb1or9?
[01:12] <weirddude> http://i.imgur.com/WHgNRoi.jpg daftykins ???
[01:12] <paracusia> because it needs to be faster daftykins, its NAS for virtual servers
[01:12] <seeit_> because /pool/projects I've assigned permissions to my user but I'm unable to cd into it
[01:13] <daftykins> paracusia: you'rein the wrong channel
[01:14] <daftykins> seeit_: show the permissions on the path with "ls -al /mount/point/" in a http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:15] <paracusia> which channel would be right, daftykins
[01:16] <seeit_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15338599/
[01:16] <daftykins> -server most likely
[01:16] <mekhami> nacc: mind if i query you about our conversation earlier?
[01:17] <nacc> mekhami: sure
[01:17] <nacc> mekhami: although topically we might want to move to #ubuntu-devel :)
[01:18] <daftykins> seeit_: perhaps you mounted the device as root?
[01:18] <seeit_> I haven't actually mounted anything
[01:18] <seeit_> that's the file system created by 'zfs create'
[01:19] <akik> seeit_: directories need to have x bit for someone to access them rw-rw- is probably your problem
[01:19] <daftykins> you have to create a file system on a block device then mount it i thought
[01:20] <PartTimeRogue> So I've reached the "I install Ubuntu and read a few tutorials...now what" stage of my Linux journey. Anyone have suggestions for any good beginners tutorials for fun things to do in Ubunutu? Or any good command line tutorials?
[01:20] <SpaceAce> weird... when I do apt-get update i get "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[01:20] <SpaceAce> anyone ever seen this?
[01:23] <k1l_> PartTimeRogue: start using it. and if you are curious about things or come to an issue, read about it
[01:24] <k1l_> PartTimeRogue: look at those pages: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/
[01:24] <Anthony-L> am i suppose to remember every command line of every application that i want to load?
[01:24] <Tex_Nick> PartTimeRogue: for command line fun you might have a look at ... The Bash Hackers Wiki ... http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/start ... just a thought ;-)
[01:25] <SpaceAce> Anthony-L, not at all. Learn the basic commands to navigate Linux, and consult the man pages for any applications you want to use
[01:26] <Anthony-L> SpaceAce, i guess i have lots of reading to do.
[01:26] <SpaceAce> don't think of it as memorizing a string of commands
[01:26] <Anthony-L> it's weird how some applications have a launch icon on the GUI but some don't.
[01:26] <SpaceAce> understand what each part of the command does to better understand what you're doing
[01:27] <daftykins> and write notes on processes
[01:27] <Anthony-L> they should make this stuff idiot proof. :) If they could understand like, "hey computer! go to this folder now!" ahaha
[01:28] <daftykins> no, they really shouldn't
[01:31] <Anthony-L> just saying, computer syntax isn't obvious.
[01:31] <daftykins> it doesn't need to be, because docs exist
[01:31] <daftykins> most of us started with something CLI as a child
[01:32] <Anthony-L> yea, i did too, but the more innovative things became really handicapped me. hahah
[01:33] <Anthony-L> sry, i just need to read. i'm overwhelmed.
[01:33] <daftykins> you mean the more it got handed to you, you gave up?
[01:33] <Anthony-L> exactly
[01:33] <weirddude> daftykins call me stupid, but i cant find anything regarding a supervisor password in bios, i found power on password and administrator password which are both clear  http://i.imgur.com/UBnJFoj.jpg
[01:33] <daftykins> this is why i don't like seeing things get made too easy, people always want things one step easier ;)
[01:33] <daftykins> i have clients on Windows that want icons on the taskbar to run programs, it's madness
[01:34] <daftykins> anyway - offtopic.
[01:34] <daftykins> weirddude: yeah it'd be admin, it doesn't need to be literal - all BIOSs are different
[01:34] <daftykins> i don't think that approach will apply to your machine but you can but try
[01:35] <weirddude> alright
[01:36] <Tex_Nick> of course the converse of that is dealing with the machine in macjine code (o's & 1's) Ha
[01:37] <daftykins> binary isn't machine code
[01:38] <EriC^^> yeah i thought hex was?
[01:38] <weirddude> daftykins should i leave secure boot disabled and legacy support enabled?
[01:39] <daftykins> depends what mode you're trying to boot and install in :)
[01:39] <knob> Hello everyone.  I am trying to mount a remote directory (from a server) on my local machine.  I am using SSHFS.  The command is: sshfs -p 1234 myREMOTEuser@server.ip.addy:/home/myREMOTEuser ~/localMount       Yet the server asks for the password, then I get a "remote host has disconnected"
[01:39] <knob> Any idea what I could be doing wrong?
[01:39] <knob> I already tried to connect to that server via SSH, and it worked perfectly.
[01:40] <Tex_Nick> Not my definition ... but ... Machine code, also known as machine language, is the elemental language of computers, comprising a long sequence of binary digital zeros and ones (bits)
[01:40] <knob> Tex_Nick, have you read/seen the book: Code: The Hidden Language of Computer Hardware and Software  ??  By Charles Petzold.  I loved that book.  Great read.
[01:41] <Tex_Nick> and it's what we called it at Caltech
[01:41] <weirddude> daftykins im trying to install via efi and i just tried, no avail
[01:41] <daftykins> so then by all means try both modes
[01:41] <daftykins> weirddude: are you actually getting as far as the boot menu?
[01:42] <daftykins> (the ubuntu one)
[01:42] <Tex_Nick> knob:  I have a copy & have read it a few times
[01:42] <weirddude> i tried uefi also same problem.
[01:42] <daftykins> same problem as what... i'm asking how far you got
[01:42] <daftykins> i think you have a paying attention issue :P
[01:43] <weirddude> I get past grub menu, i hit continue "install ubuntu" it shows me that ubuntu is loading up and then it reboots
[01:43] <daftykins> you should be going with 'try' imo
[01:43] <daftykins> do you at least see the different style menu from trying legacy boot? they're totally different
[01:44] <weirddude> daftykins yes i see the difference
[01:44] <daftykins> a pic of every page in the setup would be good
[01:45] <weirddude> daftykins howabout a video?
[01:45] <daftykins> nah
[01:46] <tedris> will it work if i use only one RSA.key for more Remote.users (SSH protocol 2 / AuthorizedKeysFile /var/KEY/%u/rsa_authorized_keys) i like to copy the rsa_authorized_keys for each user and set the spezific rights .... i can only connect with one user every time (i user ~/.ssh/config). pls help
[01:46] <weirddude> im going to take a small break ive been at this for literally hours
[01:47] <daftykins> rightyo, i'll be gone when you get back
[01:47] <weirddude> nvm then lol
[01:47] <daftykins> well i'm going to sleep now as it goes
[01:47] <daftykins> i'm sure someone else can assist later
[01:47] <weirddude> ok
[01:47] <weirddude> gn then
[01:48] <tedris> gn8 :)
[01:49] <weirddude> daftykins do you need pics of bios?
[01:49] <weirddude> what else do you need me to take a picture of?
[01:50] <EriC^^> do you have hot neighbors?
[01:50] <weirddude> heh
[01:52] <floppy> http://www.amway.ca/GinoGuimont
[01:53] <daftykins> i'm gonna guess don't click that
[01:53] <weirddude> lol
[01:53] <xangua> It's a trap
[01:53] <rote> what is this
[01:54] <daftykins> something you wait less than a minute for answers from, apparently
[01:54] <weirddude> http://i.imgur.com/JerwEh1.jpg
[01:55] <weirddude> http://i.imgur.com/pb9whbR.jpg
[01:55] <daftykins> you should've put them in a single album
[01:56] <weirddude> ok hold on a sec
[01:59] <weirddude> https://m.imgur.com/a/PVYZY daftykins
[02:00] <daftykins> no pic of beneath 'Boot Options' ?
[02:01] <weirddude> its the first one daftykins?
[02:01] <daftykins> oh it must've taken a sec to get there o0
[02:01] <daftykins> or i'm blind as a bat
[02:01] <Pinkamena_D> whenever I resume from standby with different monitors attached, they are not detected correctly. (Either black, or wrong resolution) However as soon as I click the 'system settings' gui tool, everything fixes itself. (I don't have to do anything in the tool, I simply launch it) This behavior has been consistent for the last few months. Can I somehow run whatever this tool is running automatically on resume from standby, so that I
[02:01] <Pinkamena_D> can skip this step?
[02:03] <daftykins> weirddude: mmm, i think my only idea left is to actually try some old media then
[02:03] <weirddude> 12.04 ?
[02:04] <daftykins> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.0/
[02:04] <daftykins> nope, vanilla 14.04 - this'll use an earlier kernel
[02:04] <EriC^^> maybe try the mini iso?
[02:04] <daftykins> yeah that could be good too ^
[02:04] <daftykins> i'll allow EriC^^ to enjoy that fun with you in my absence :D
[02:04] <daftykins> g'night! for real this time :)
[02:04] <weirddude> alright see ya
[02:05] <EriC^^> :D
[02:05] <EriC^^> nighty daftykins
[02:05] <Xxx_PIKACHU_xxX> Wha
[02:05] <daftykins> Xxx_PIKACHU_xxX: gotta catch 'em all
[02:06] <EriC^^> :D
[02:06] <weirddude> imagine if richard stallman used javascript
[02:06] <Xxx_PIKACHU_xxX> :)
[02:06] <weirddude> the stallster
[02:07] <nicomachus> definitely not on-topic...
[02:07] <weirddude> well you gotta admit it would be interesting. but youre right off topic
[02:24] <weirddude> eric^^ 14.04.0 is giving me the same issue
[02:24] <weirddude> EriC^^
[02:25] <weirddude>  oops
[02:29] <EriC^^> !mini | weirddude try this
[02:30] <weirddude> ill try it
[02:30] <weirddude> ...
[02:30] <weirddude> tomorrow have a nice night
[02:30] <volkher> Hey
[02:30] <volkher> are any of you familiar with linux mint
[02:30] <volkher> are any of you familiar with linux mint?
[02:31] <k1l_> volkher: the guys over at the mint channels are
[02:31] <k1l_> !mint | volkher
[02:31] <volkher> thanks
[02:33] <tedris> hi volkher i had use mint 1 year
[02:33] <tedris> xD
[02:34] <tedris> will it work if i use only one RSA.key for more Remote.users (SSH protocol 2 / AuthorizedKeysFile /var/KEY/%u/rsa_authorized_keys) i like to copy the rsa_authorized_keys for each user and set the spezific rights .... i can only connect with one user every time (i user ~/.ssh/config). pls help
[02:34] <Techspectre> So I just discovered AMD active core control and I can now switch between 1 / 2 cores per module, depending on whether I need better multi-threading or higher IPC. Seems to work fine, but will changing the amount of cores on the fly piss off Ubuntu in some way?
[02:35] <tedris> i brain say me ones.. kernel.. but i dont know
[02:36] <tedris> @ tech
[02:38] <tedris> by createing your own kernel  you can set the IPC..
[02:40] <Techspectre> tedris, really?
[02:43] <metroins> Hi, I just wanted t say I am really liking Ubuntu for my regular day-to-day use.
[02:43] <metroins> I have tried Linux in the past multiple times over the past 18 years and this is the first time I've been able to make it a daily driver.
[02:44] <tedris> techspectre i dont know its your way that work.. but you can see it easy by follow a tutorial like "build your own kernel"... by configure you can read your chooses.. take a loock
[02:44] <meskes> This is the first time I haven't used linux as a daily driver, in the past 18 years.
[02:44] <metroins> lol.  Must feel like you have less "control"
[02:45] <tedris> Techspectre, i dont know its your way that work.. but you can see it easy by follow a tutorial like "build your own kernel"... by configure you can read your chooses.. take a loock
[02:45] <tedris> xD now i know like linking xD sorry for dopple
[02:48] <Techspectre> tedris, but the CPU is only physically capable of a certain limit in 1 or 2 module per core mode. It's a BIOS setting, I'm not sure if a kernel could just magically boost IPC
[02:48] <Amethyst_Crystal> (0.244918) pnp:0.05  can't evaluate_CRS: 12298  <-- this pops up shortly before my usb stick 'try/install' iso of ubuntu 14.04.4 finishes booting to the welcome screen. i've looked it up online, and so far most people seem to get other errors on top of that, and the only result ive seen so far with one similar to this implies its a 'null' (irrelevant?) error. I came here to see what you guys thi
[02:48] <Amethyst_Crystal> nk of this. Is it safe to continue installation?
[02:52] <tedris> Techspectre, i dont know.. with a turorial you can search in the kernel settings main in ~5 -15min ... you dont install the kernel if you dont like. maybe you finde here a way
[02:52] <kunok> yo
[02:52] <kunok> guys
[02:52] <kunok> any web devs here?
[02:52] <Techspectre> kunok, #css will be your best bet for that
[02:52] <tedris> kunok, maybe
[02:53] <kunok> i am looking for contacts
[02:53] <kunok> i know alot of frontend
[02:53] <kunok> but i also know some of backend (ruby, php)
[02:53] <Techspectre> kunok, if that's the case send me a message lol
[02:53] <kunok> tech spec  do you have skype?
[02:54] <tedris> techi dont have a kernel for testing
[02:54] <Techspectre> tedris, thanks for the info but I'd rather not mess with the kernel
[02:54] <Techspectre> kunok, sent you a PM
[02:55] <tedris> Techspectre, you are welc.. good luck and have fund xD
[03:00] <Amethyst_Crystal> (0.244918) pnp:0.05  can't evaluate_CRS: 12298  <-- this pops up shortly before my usb stick 'try/install' iso of ubuntu 14.04.4 finishes booting to the welcome screen. I've looked it up and everyone gets other errors on top of that, so it isn't clear.
[03:08]  * jaink 
[03:08] <jaink> exit
[03:17] <MannyLNJ> Stil having touble accesing a samba shared folder on Ubuntu from my Windows 8.1 sytem
[03:18] <Amethyst_Crystal> (0.244918) pnp:00.05  can't evaluate_CRS: 12298   This pops up shortly before my usb stick 'try/install' iso of ubuntu 14.04.4 finishes booting to the welcome screen. Everything looks okay, but I haven't tried installing yet. I've looked up the error, and it seems like its fine if its the *only* error I see (which it is). Should I continue install?
[03:23] <tedris> will it work if i use only one RSA.key for more Remote.users (SSH protocol 2 / AuthorizedKeysFile /var/KEY/%u/rsa_authorized_keys) i like to copy the rsa_authorized_keys for each user and set the spezific rights .... i can only connect with one user every time (i user ~/.ssh/config). pls help
[03:26] <MannyLNJ> Stil having touble accesing a samba shared folder on Ubuntu from my Windows 8.1 sytem
[03:28] <tedris> MannyLNJ, you can access samba from other linux client or windowsx?
[03:30] <MannyLNJ> tedris trying to acess theshave from a wndows system. samba.conf at 2:24:48] SpaceAce [~SpaceAce@106-69-118-178.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit IRC: Quit: Leaving [22:24:50] notslz [~vulpicast@mary-kay-commandos.mit.edu] is now known astedris tryin to access a share that is on my ubuntu system.http://paste.ubuntu.com/15339129/ for the samba config
[03:36] <tedris> MannyLNJ, witch windows version you have tried
[03:36] <MannyLNJ> I don't have another client at th moment.  I'm trying with .1
[03:37] <reisio> ooo-oooh, witch-y win-dows
[03:38] <tedris> maybe use a live disk to check access from samba.
[03:38] <bluefive> Do most applications rely on single thread performance?
[03:38] <bluefive> For instance, when I am upgrading my OS, is it the single thread performane that is the bottleneck?
[03:38] <tedris> so you know samba works corecty
[03:38] <MannyLNJ> tedris It Windows 8.1 that I am connecting from
[03:39] <tedris> and it dont work xD but why, maybe samba server dont run fine
[03:41] <mabus> what's the supported way to install chrome on ubuntu now? i need to use netflix
[03:41] <tedris> MannyLNJ,  \\IP-DES-REMOTE-SERVERS\public
[03:42] <mabus> i am using 64 bit 14.04 fwiw
[03:42] <virtuosoj> @mabus: google's official website
[03:42] <virtuosoj> just google install chrome linux
[03:42] <mabus> the solution appears to have changed to be different things recently, im told to use repositories that dont exist
[03:43] <tedris> -chrome
[03:43] <mabus> is there no ppa? i have to bother to manually dpkg a deb every so often?
[03:43] <virtuosoj> nah just download the .deb from google :P
[03:43] <virtuosoj> you just click it and open it in software center
[03:43] <mabus> but it wont get updates in that case will it
[03:44] <tedris> will it work if i use only one RSA.key for more Remote.users (SSH protocol 2 / AuthorizedKeysFile /var/KEY/%u/rsa_authorized_keys) i like to copy the rsa_authorized_keys for each user and set the spezific rights .... i can only connect with one user every time (i user ~/.ssh/config). pls help
[03:44] <MannyLNJ> tedris no go. I i tried  smbclient -L SetTopBox and got back  session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[03:44] <virtuosoj> I think it adds the repository automatically
[03:44] <virtuosoj> try the install then check your software sources to see if it added a repo
[03:44] <mabus> from a deb file?? how does that work?
[03:45] <virtuosoj> idk. the .rpm worked that way in fedora
[03:45] <tedris> dpkg -i paket.deb
[03:45] <virtuosoj> anyway I would trust google's download over an unofficial ppa
[03:46] <Madhumper69> i have my openvpn.conf to load when i boot the server however is there a way to make sure it stays connected if not to reconnect?
[03:47] <SchrodingersScat> virtuosoj: last I checked google-chrome does indeed add a repo.
[03:47] <tedris> MannyLNJ, you had add a samba user or use the right logindata?
[03:47] <mabus> sure, but i dont trust myself or wife to make sure its updated every week
[03:47] <MannyLNJ> tedris Yes to both so so I think
[03:47] <caliculk> Hey, I just want to verify, I think my python2.7 build is messed up in some way. If I download the pkg file from apt-get (apt-get download python2.7), purge python 2.7 and then install the dpkg, will that be enough to reinstate python correctly on the system? I know apt-get has some tendencies to use python to work properly.
[03:48] <mabus> i just assumed there was some way to have a browser with automatic security updates that uses netflix on ubuntu 14.04, first time im running into the problem
[03:52] <tedris> MannyLNJ,   and your windows settings lookslike so: \\IP-DES-REMOTE-SERVERS\DIR
[03:52] <tedris> i dont know win8
[03:54] <MannyLNJ> tedris I don't qite understand what ou just asked
[03:55] <tedris> caliculk, i say yes it wil ;)
[03:56] <tedris> MannyLNJ, the adreess you type in windows  is like \\IP-REMOTE-SERVER\DIR
[03:57] <MannyLNJ> tedris: Yes I am oing \\192.16.1.104\Music
[03:58] <tedris> with samba user : / try to access from live linux cd via samba to check thats the win8 is the bug
[03:59] <tedris> will it work if i use only one RSA.key for more Remote.users (SSH protocol 2 / AuthorizedKeysFile /var/KEY/%u/rsa_authorized_keys) i like to copy the rsa_authorized_keys for each user and set the spezific rights .... i can only connect with one user every time (i user ~/.ssh/config). pls help
[04:03] <Rave1> mabus   32 bit chrome is no longer supported but if you use 64 bit it will be OK and will update along with ubuntus auto updates
[04:03] <Rave1> mabus  well if you have the updates set that way
[04:05] <MannyLNJ> tedris I fixed it thanks to something i ound on google. It ws a lack of netbos nme
[04:05] <caliculk> tedris, knowing full well that if I purge python it will also remove half of my packages?
[04:06] <caliculk> So I need some helpful advice, not just yeah go ahead and do it watch your system break. I don't know of any other way to reinstall python with apt.
[04:06] <tedris> caliculk, i dont know but thats i like try, make backup and test
[04:07] <tedris> MannerMan, nice :9 enjoy it
[04:08] <tedris> MannerMan, sorry for poge you be the wrong man ;)
[04:09] <mabus> Rave1: but i can't install chrome with default repos, just chromium which does not support netflix unlike chrome
[04:09] <mabus> there was a ppa on google.com but it appears to 404 now
[04:10] <Rave1> mabus deb file from google site
[04:10] <Rave1> forget PPAs
[04:12] <shailendra> i want add to crome in my system
[04:12] <shailendra> but i cant
[04:13] <Rave1> shailendra,  32 bit system?
[04:13] <shailendra> ya
[04:13] <shailendra> ubuntu mate 32 bit
[04:14] <Rave1> use chromium closest you will get
[04:15] <shailendra> ok
[04:15] <shailendra> this is web site ?
[04:15] <squinty> mabus, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/fix-failed-to-fetch-google-chrome-apt-error-ubuntu
[04:17] <squinty> mabus,  errors with chrome's ppa is they dropped 32 bit support.  you can the ppa but change the sources list to what omgubuntu blog says
[04:17] <mabus> if i install deb files manually i dont get automatic updates though. that seems pretty important for your web browser
[04:17] <mabus> cool thanks
[04:17] <Rave1> mabus who told you that
[04:18] <Rave1> manual install also sts up the google repo for updates
[04:21] <shailendra> manual install ?
[04:21] <shailendra> i dont know what i do
[04:29] <normygt> hi
[04:29] <reisio> hi
[04:29] <normygt> is anyone else on a raspberry pi 2 ???
[04:31] <tedris> normygt, bananapi here but ofline
[04:31] <reisio> normygt: what if someone else is?
[04:54] <zephyr> hi
[04:59] <zephyr> I've used many linux distros. But coming from years of Windows to Ubuntu, I have just one quick question:  how on Earth do I see a list of the applications I have installed?
[04:59] <zephyr> I've never used Unity and I can't for the life of me, make any sense of it whatsoever.
[04:59] <reisio> zephyr: like a GUI list?
[04:59] <zephyr> reisio, yes.
[05:00] <reisio> zephyr: http://askubuntu.com/questions/159664/how-to-list-user-installed-applications-not-packages
[05:00] <zephyr> I'm not looking for a complete "Start Menu" replacement, as I'm excited to learn something new.  But this whole thing with Unity is making me crazy
[05:01] <happyfrench> where can I select keyboard models on ubuntu 15.10? i want to change keyboard layout 104key to hhkb layout.
[05:01] <zephyr> reisio, okay, that does show me what is installed, but doesn't work as a very helpful "launcher"
[05:02] <reisio> zephyr: windows' list of installed apps is a launcher?
[05:02] <reisio> zephyr: oh you want a start menu
[05:02] <Bashing-om> zephyr: ' dpkg --get-selections ' will dump a list of all packages you have installed.
[05:03] <zephyr> reisio, I'm not looking for a Start menu, per se.
[05:03] <reisio> zephyr: http://askubuntu.com/questions/305291/add-application-menu-to-dock ?
[05:03] <reisio> zephyr: k, not sure what you're looking for, then :)
[05:04] <zephyr> reisio, but the whole Unity menu seems so utterly bloated and pointless to me.  And it does make it difficult to determine if Ubuntu has already come with an app I am looking for.
[05:04] <reisio> zephyr: you might take a look at KDE
[05:04] <reisio> zephyr: it's more "windows"
[05:04] <zephyr> reisio, lame example:  I want to create a text document.  I have no idea if I need to install Office Libre or if it's already installed.
[05:04] <zephyr> I can't find a way to tell in Unity,.
[05:05] <reisio> sounds like you don't want Unity, then :D
[05:05] <reisio> zephyr: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[05:05] <zephyr> I don't KNOW if I want Unity or not...that's the point.  I just want to understand it.
[05:05] <zephyr> I have 15.10
[05:05] <beardedeagle> turn off all the suggestions and crap
[05:06] <beardedeagle> that will clear out some of the cruft
[05:06] <bluefive> Why does Amazon sometimes charge so much more than the third-party sellers?/
[05:06] <zephyr> beardedeagle, I've done that.  It's helped weed out some of the junk.  But I'm still unclear how to find what I already have installed and what I don't.
[05:06] <zephyr> bluefive, because they can.
[05:07] <beardedeagle> should be an option to just look at applications in the unity hud
[05:07] <bluefive> zephyr: But who's going to pay more just to buy directly from Amazon??
[05:07] <zephyr> beardedeagle, I agree; there SHOULD be.
[05:07] <beardedeagle> you can open the settings in the hud and just select applications and local files
[05:07] <beardedeagle> that is what I did when unity rolled out
[05:07] <zephyr> bluefive, the people that do.  Clearly.
[05:07] <bluefive> zephyr: I doubt it.
[05:07] <beardedeagle> been a few releases since I used ubuntu though
[05:08] <beardedeagle> ubuntu mini + xmonad = heaven
[05:08] <bluefive> zephyr: But Amazon has been most kind when I've wanted to return a product for a full refund. I imagine the third-party sellers aren't so good.
[05:08] <jayjo> I use ubuntu on my servers and decided to take the plunge on the desktop, trying to mimic my mac honestly that I work on a lot. Are there resources to enable some features like hot corners?
[05:08] <beardedeagle> Maybe check out elementary
[05:09] <beardedeagle> that pantheon DE is really nice looking, very mac'ish
[05:09] <goddard> how do i kill screenkey
[05:09] <reisio> killall screenkey
[05:09] <goddard> reisio: thanks
[05:11] <reisio> goddard: presumably there is a less daft way, but screenkey's docs sure aren't making it obvious :p
[05:12] <goddard> reisio: yeah i looked at them and the website and their video
[05:12] <goddard> hahaha
[05:13] <jayjo> does anyone have chrome installed on ubuntu 14.04? ubuntu software center says there is nothing in progress, but I've tried to install it a few times
[05:13] <jayjo> not under installed either
[05:14] <SigmundF> hi
[05:14] <jayjo> ah it's run from terminal
[05:14] <reisio> goddard: plenty of info... none you want :p
[05:15] <reisio> goddard: apparently it's meant to have a tray icon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/screenkey/+bug/1021647
[05:15] <reisio> sounds like the dev is in the tall grass
[05:16] <reisio> 's'okay, gratis software :)
[05:16] <Rave1> jayjo,  chrome is no more for 32 bit systems and if you want a more  "mac-ish" desktop look at enlightinment
[05:18] <jayjo> Does anyone have experience with enlightement? What am I giving up by trying this distro?
[05:18] <Rave1> jayjo,  it is not a distro it is a window manager
[05:18] <reisio> chromium works on x86, though
[05:19] <reisio> and it wouldn't surprise me if chrome's binary plugins do, too
[05:20] <Rave1> someone told me 64 bit chrome would install and function on 32 bit dont know never tried
[05:25] <happyfrench> could you tell me how to change 101/104 keyboard layout to 65keys layout on ubuntu 15.10?
[05:36] <Madhumper69> .join #ubuntu+1
[05:36] <Madhumper69> woops ;)
[05:38] <happyfrench> exit
[05:38] <happyfrench> woops ;)
[05:46] <mines999> u have eror when i install google chrome...
[05:46] <mines999> and it ffect to other app install
[05:46] <mines999> anyone ?
[05:48] <somsip> mines999: this error? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/fix-failed-to-fetch-google-chrome-apt-error-ubuntu
[06:01] <Ascavasaion> when I run synaptic I get the following errors. - E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.getdeb.net_ubuntu_dists_trusty-getdeb_games_i18n_Translation-en E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[06:02] <Ascavasaion> !ping
[06:02] <Ascavasaion> hehe
[06:02] <hateball> Ascavasaion: looks like you've added a third party repo
[06:02] <hateball> which fails, for some reason
[06:02] <Ascavasaion> hateball: It suddenly just started yesterday.
[06:02] <Ascavasaion> hateball: I should delete it in sources?
[06:03] <hateball> Ascavasaion: You can at least comment it out
[06:03] <hateball> Ascavasaion: and look at said site if there has been any changes, if you need to edit your source lists
[06:04] <Ascavasaion> hateball: Also gettign an error re google... but i saw "http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/fix-failed-to-fetch-google-chrome-apt-error-ubuntu"... which is an error I started gettign at the same time.
[06:04] <Bashing-om> Ascavasaion: Corrupted control files ? try ' sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists ; sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .
[06:04] <hateball> !fixapt
[06:05] <hateball> hmmm
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> hateball: wanna join #ubuntu+1 got some interesting you might wanna know
[06:32] <Ascavasaion> Bashing-om: Thank you so much... "sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists ; sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade" worked perfectly.
[06:33] <Bashing-om> Ascavasaion: :) .. Something did not match in the control files. the 'update' rebuilds .
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | Bashing-om
[06:34] <blatche> Hello I need help in installing Pepper Flash, when I use the pepperflashplugin-nonfree it doesn't download anything like it should
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> blatche: wgats the error you getting mate
[06:35] <safe_> hello
[06:35] <blatche> lotuspsychje: It's not downloading the Chrome installer so it just installs and does nothing. No error of any sorts
[06:35] <Bashing-om> chocolate chip no less .. my favorite !
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> blatche: install chromium-browser?
[06:36] <blatche> I already have lotuspsychje
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> blatche: and you installed pepperflash too?
[06:37] <blatche> Yes I did
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> blatche: ok and whats not working exactly?
[06:38] <hateball> blatche: did you try an apt-get install --reinstall pepperflashplugin-nonfree ?
[06:38] <blatche> I did hateball and it does the same thing
[06:38] <hateball> that is strange
[06:39] <blatche> Sets it up, then just finishes without doing the whole "download Chrome then extract the libpepflash.so" bit
[06:41] <Bashing-om> blatche: 32 bit OS by  any chance ?
[06:41] <blatche> Yes why?
[06:42] <Bashing-om> blatche: Not sure, but google has pulled all 32 bit software .
[06:43] <hateball> blatche: what happens if you run "sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install" ?
[06:43] <blatche> Bashing-om: I see. I do recall seeing something of the sorts.
[06:43] <hateball> or sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --status
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> blatche, Bashing-om https://www.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/48oje6/linux_how_to_fix_failed_to_fetch/
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> maybe this?
[06:44] <Bashing-om> blatche: So if peper-flash for google-chrome,. not going to have support .
[06:46] <blatche> No output on either command
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> blatche: If you are on Linux x32 you will need to uninstall chrome due to no more security updates will be offered. Your distribution may offer chromium-browser. Chromium will be updated by your linux distribution not by Google.
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> blatche: from the url above
[06:47] <blatche> Yeah I did see that. Currently reading on more news about it
[06:48] <blatche> I hope someone could get pepperflash back using the ones from Adobe?
[06:48] <hateball> Sounds like a good time to backup data and reinstall 64-bit
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> hateball: join #ubuntu+1 plz? got a link for ya
[06:49] <hateball> lotuspsychje: you could pm if you like, I dont currently run +1 so not much point being there :)
[06:49] <blatche> Having under 4GB of RAM? I don't think that's kinda good of a move...
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:50] <hateball> blatche: Sure there's a bit of overhead, but the alternative is not having the software you want...
[06:50] <blatche> I guess I'll have to make do with the NPAPI Flash available in the repos
[06:50] <blatche> Thanks for the help mates!
[06:53] <DaveWM> I can't seem to get internet shared to a client interface.  I have it networked to the host and they are able to ping eachother... the internet interface is up and internet works on the host.. I did iptables and set forwarding to 1 with sysctl but still no internet access on the client
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> DaveWM: maybe the ##networking guys or #netfilter can give you a hand on this?
[06:55] <DaveWM> lotuspsychje: I'll try them. thanks
[06:59] <kr4n30> supp mates
[07:00] <avis> i love ubuntu.  i'm entitled to it.  calibre though overheats on my laptop hard drive.  on fedora -- it doesn't.  its the biggest goof of all times.  anyone know how to fix ?  i bought my books and paid many times their worth to have so many, as a brag, in case there's someone special
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> avis: maybe try htop to see how many cpu calibre takes?
[07:02] <avis> does ubuntu kernel do that ?
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | avis might also help speed up things
[07:03] <avis> tnx
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> avis: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> oO
[07:06] <rocco> servus
[07:16] <Mia> any virtualbox alternative I should be using?
[07:16] <DaveWM> nope
[07:16] <Mia> I'm on windows and would like to test out different distros
[07:16] <cfhowlett> what's wrong with vbox?
[07:16] <cfhowlett> vbox works on window too, you know ...
[07:16] <Mia> some say it's graphicws drivers are crap so yeah
[07:16] <Mia> I mean just wanted to ask overall
[07:16] <Mia> if there is a better thing I should be using, I was going to switch
[07:17] <Mia> that's why I asked
[07:17] <DaveWM> Mia: what are you trying to do graphically?  I mean I think one is as good as the other
[07:17] <Mia> but if it's already THE solution then ok :) probobly I shoudl stay
[07:17] <cfhowlett> all virtual machines are going to lack in the graphics ...
[07:17] <DaveWM> you won't get native graphics in a VM unless you are using something capable of forwarding your entire GPU to a virtual machine
[07:17] <hateball> I'm not sure what "being on windows and testing different distros" has to do with Ubuntu...
[07:18] <Mia> it does not have much to do wih ubuntu really, I wanted to ask here because a lot of people are online and it's sort of related
[07:18] <DaveWM> different distros = ubuntu + mint + other_ubuntu_derivatives... lol
[07:18] <Mia> is it strictly forbidden here to ask general linux-related questions?
[07:18] <Mia> DaveWM, correct
[07:18] <Mia> ubuntu-gnome and such :)
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> Mia: there is ##windows for windows questions
[07:18] <DaveWM> Mia these guys are tough in here.. lol.. I have to watch myself cause I get offtopic too much
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> Mia: general linux stuff belongs in ##linux
[07:19] <Mia> lotuspsychje, it's not entirely a windows uestion and frankly that channel never answers properly
[07:19] <cfhowlett> Mia, so fix it: install ubuntu add vbox install windows.  life is is sweet
[07:19] <Mia> DaveWM, :)
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> Mia: we can only support ubuntu issues here, and yes we have a very active channel
[07:20] <Raz0r-X> How do i change this line " FIRST=$(sed -n "/$myDate.*BEGIN/p" LogDay.$myDate | head -1 " to look for " BEGIN JOB /srv/unireg/us/data/PROD/PNRUN/PN1215D " instead of only " BEGIN " ?
[07:20] <Mia> cfhowlett, hah brilliant :D
[07:20] <Mia> lotuspsychje, I realized X_X
[07:23] <avis> is channel topic still true.  ubuntu "12.04 LTS" still -=-> LTS ?
[07:24] <cfhowlett> avis, LTS stay LTS.  that status doesn't change
[07:25] <avis> is it still supported legally in the country of the U. S. A. ?
[07:25] <dax> avis: 12.04 is supported until April 2017
[07:25] <hateball> avis: 12.04 is supported until 17.04
[07:25] <jback> At some point support expires
[07:25] <dax> I am unsure what "legally" means.
[07:25] <avis> thanks
[07:25] <avis> thanks all
[07:25] <avis> see ya'll
[07:37] <spreadsheet> hi
[07:37] <spreadsheet> so I found out I have a windows 10 system that's actually using legacy boot, even though UEFI is available
[07:37] <spreadsheet> so, it seems that you can't easily go from legacy to UEFI
[07:38] <cfhowlett> spreadsheet, take it up with #windows
[07:38] <spreadsheet> so, when I boot from USB
[07:38] <spreadsheet> ubuntu
[07:38] <spreadsheet> it gives me an error, saying there are other OS's using BIOS, and it would be difficult to boot those other systems if ubuntu were installed
[07:39] <spreadsheet> I saw this
[07:39] <spreadsheet> http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2015/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-alongside_8.html
[07:39] <cfhowlett> spreadsheet, presumably you are trying to dual boot.  fix windows boot first.  (obviously not supported here).  THEN install ubuntu.
[07:40] <cfhowlett> and windows 10 should be in uefi ...
[07:40] <spreadsheet> it's upgraded from older systems
[07:40] <spreadsheet> I see
[07:42] <jushur> spreadsheet: is it a desktop machine?
[07:42] <spreadsheet> yes
[07:43] <spreadsheet> optiplex 990
[07:43] <nezZario> Hey guys, how can I tell which kernel the machine is going to boot from next time I reboot ?
[07:43] <cfhowlett> spreadsheet, it will default to the newest one
[07:44] <spreadsheet> it says "legacy" in system information
[07:45] <cfhowlett> nezZario, sorry.  in response to your query, your machine will boot the newest kernel
[07:45] <cfhowlett> by default
[07:47]  * pi_____ 
[07:47]  * trr 
[07:52] <nezZario> Ok, what happened was /boot got full and apt went totally haywire trying to update the kernels
[07:53] <cfhowlett> !details | nezZario, your dropping crumbs.  FULL details might lead to answers
[07:53] <jushur> nezZario: should have a habit of cleaning out old packages especially when updating kernel.
[07:54] <nezZario> I'm just really concerned that it's going to try to boot a kernel that doesn't exist.  For some insane reason I'm also missing /vmlinuz and the other one (init.rd)
[07:54] <nezZario> Sorry I'm just typing slow, was trying to find the name of the other link
[07:54] <jushur> i do however belive the default partition size for /boot is a bit small on the 16.04 beta. as its fast pacing and one may want to have a few revisions of kernels installed for testing purposes.
[07:55] <jushur> nezZario: what release you run?
[07:56] <nezZario> apt-get upgrade just got into a cycle where it wouldn't update the kernel because /boot was full, it wouldn't let me autoremove because apt hadn't finished it's last operation (of updating the kernel), so I made a backup of /boot by cp -pR /boot /boot.copy and then manually removed the oldest kernel files I seen in there until it would finish the process.
[07:56] <Lita> HEllo!
[07:56] <testing223> Hi, how to detect is program has ability of dpkg-reconfigure, or not?
[07:56] <nezZario> then it freaked out further because then those files were missing.. I had to 'touch' them to get them back .. now I have 2 kernels installed and I am just really concerned it's not going to boot back up
[07:56] <cfhowlett> nezZario, sounds like a full boot alright.  boot into the command line and clean it out
[07:56] <testing223> *halp*
[07:56] <cfhowlett> !help | testing223
[07:57] <nezZario> I'm running 14.04 LTS
[07:57] <nezZario> This is a remote server .. if it goes down and can't boot .. I'll have to e-mail this companies IT dept. and tell them I broke the server
[07:58] <cfhowlett> nezZario, right.  remote in, clean kernels
[07:58] <jushur> redo last kernel install just.
[08:01] <testing223> How to detect is program has ability of dpkg-reconfigure, or not? Nobody knows? rly?
[08:01] <Lita> I have VirtualBox and shared folder between Windows - general and Ubuntu - guest. But i can't change text file in this folder from the Ubuntu.
[08:02] <nezZario> cfhowlett: jushur: what I did was apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic-lts-utopic
[08:02] <cfhowlett> errrrrrrrrrr why?  utopic is dead
[08:02] <cfhowlett> and using the utopic kernel sounds ... risky
[08:03] <nezZario> I'm pretty sure I have everything tidy and proper except that I'm still missing those two symlinks, /vimlinuz and /initrd.img (and their .old)
[08:03] <nezZario> Which one should i be using for 14.04 ?
[08:03] <nezZario> That's what was installed by 'default' (untouched), I don't really know .
[08:03] <dvapelnik> hi!
[08:04] <dvapelnik> is the xfreerdp works with multiple monitors fine?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> nezZario, I'm on 14.04.3  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340204/
[08:04] <Lita> I have VirtualBox and shared folder between Windows - general and Ubuntu - guest. But i can't save changes of the text file in this folder from the Ubuntu.
[08:05] <dvapelnik> Lita, check directory and sharing permissions
[08:05] <dvapelnik> try to share directory with write permissions
[08:07] <Lita> dvapelnik, how?
[08:07] <dvapelnik> as I know shared directory to guest FS is owned by root
[08:07] <Lita> and?
[08:08] <Lita> I need work from the user
[08:08] <dvapelnik> make new directory under shared on ubuntu with `sudo` and change permissions for writing regular user
[08:08] <testing223> How to detect is program has ability of dpkg-reconfigure, or not? Nobody knows?
[08:08] <Lita> And what mount?
[08:09] <dvapelnik> do you have root access on ubuntu under VM?
[08:09] <dvapelnik> no, make new directory on shared directory
[08:09] <Lita> sudo mkdir /media/share     sudo chmod 777 /media/share
[08:10] <Lita> yes
[08:10] <Lita> why?
[08:10] <dvapelnik> imagine you have shared drectory `/media/share`
[08:11] <dvapelnik> sudo mkdir -p /media/share/foo
[08:11] <dvapelnik> sudo chown -R youruser:youruser /media/share/foo
[08:13] <Lita> ok
[08:13] <Lita> and?
[08:13] <Lita> no
[08:14] <Lita> NO WORK
[08:14] <Lita> Cant save
[08:14] <dvapelnik> show me `ls -la /media/share`
[08:14] <nezZario> cfhowlett: well, I am using the server version so maybe thats why it's insisting on the older utopic kernels
[08:16] <Lita> no, i created folder in sf_*
[08:16] <Lita> that in media
[08:17] <dvapelnik> ok, which forlder is mounted?
[08:17] <Lita> sf_*
[08:17] <dvapelnik> ah.. yea
[08:17] <dvapelnik> wait, I'm looking for my scripts
[08:17] <Lita> I created share in sf_*
[08:17] <Lita> But not help
[08:18] <Lita> and why user = group?
[08:18] <alkisg> Hi guys, I'm developing some open source software called epoptes.org, and I'd like to ask the output of the following command from (1) someone that has nvidia binary drivers, and (2) someone that has a hybrid-vga (multiple, optimus etc) system:
[08:18] <alkisg> cat $(find /sys/devices -name boot_vga -printf %h)/uevent
[08:18] <alkisg> If someone can spare a minute, please run that command and PM the result to me. Thank you. :)
[08:19] <dvapelnik> Lita, try to switch off SELinux
[08:19] <Lita> HOW?
[08:20] <Lita> Its not very good ides
[08:20] <Lita> idea
[08:21] <dvapelnik> yes, this is workaround but you linux under VM and security isn't important
[08:21] <dvapelnik> your linux*
[08:22] <Lita> nono its bad way
[08:22] <Lita> should work with selinux
[08:23] <dvapelnik> try w/0 SELinux
[08:23] <Lita> sudo mount -t vboxsf VirtualBoxShare /media/share
[08:25] <Lita> Any can help please?
[08:25] <Lita> Without crashing OS please
[08:26] <dvapelnik> try w/o selinux for localize problem
[08:26] <dvapelnik> shared folde shares by vbox with `vbox` context
[08:27] <Lita> Why just not work?
[08:30] <jushur> advising ppl to turn of selinux is not a proper solution, do not do it.
[08:31] <dvapelnik> I don't know. I cant view on your machine and I can't spend time on my job place for installing new VM on my PC for check out your situation in live
[08:31] <jushur> dont advice if you dont know then
[08:31] <dvapelnik> yes, this is not solution but this is workaround for localizing the problem
[08:32] <jushur> no its not, its a way to make your system vulnerable.
[08:34] <dvapelnik> switch off selinux, try, switch on it back. what is problem?
[08:35] <jushur> its on the level of "idiotic behavior" is not like you go disable the breakes on your car before you go out driving right?
[08:35] <dvapelnik> right
[08:37] <dvapelnik> but selinux on vm machine under vbox is not a brackets on your car
[08:37] <dvapelnik> look at "under vbox"
[08:38] <jushur> idd, and bad habits tends to be bad habits. if you teach ppl to do things in the wrong way they continue to do so. even on live systems.
[08:39] <ghostknife> Is there any noticable performance decrease in having a whole home directory encrypted, with all config/cache files contained therein? As opposed to just having a specific directory encrypted?
[08:56] <surajit> how to change the position of the top bar of unity ubuntu?
[08:56] <EriC^^> surajit: you cant
[08:57] <Trinity> can someone help me get cgroups working under ubuntu 14.04LTS?
[08:57] <surajit> how to install kali penetration tools in ubuntu16.04
[08:57] <Trinity> i've tried cgcreate but /etc/cgconfig.conf isn't showing entries
[08:57] <EriC^^> !ubuntu+1 | surajit
[08:57] <Trinity> am i missing something?
[08:58] <friend> quit
[08:58] <Trinity> that being said, cgroup's documentation is barely understandable for me. Can someone point me towards a good documentation or similar?
[09:01] <tiblock> Hi. Is there ubuntu with KDE 5? Like Kubuntu/Lubuntu but with KDE 5?
[09:03] <Mathisen> tiblock, what ubuntu version are you on now ?
[09:04] <tiblock> Mathisen, i don't have ubuntu, i want to downaload ubuntu with KDE 5 to install it on PC.
[09:05] <Mathisen> i dont know what kubuntu has as default but with 15.10 you can install plasma 5.5 using backports
[09:08] <tiblock> Mathisen, oh, looks like kubuntu 15.10 is using KDE 5, awesome. Problem solved. Thank you
[09:08] <hateball> tiblock: Kubuntu 15.10 uses KDE SC 5.4, 16.04 will be out soon and have updated packages
[09:08] <hateball> !kubuntu | tiblock
[09:18] <grumpygills> does anybody know what the "System Setup" option does in GRUB 2 (Ubuntu 15.10 server edition)?
[09:19] <EriC^^> grumpygills: uefi menu probably
[09:19] <EriC^^> oh, server edition
[09:19] <EriC^^> no idea, /join #ubuntu-server
[09:20] <grumpygills> EriC^^: just tried it, and you're right, it's the UEFI setup for my mobo - that's awesome! :D
[09:20] <grumpygills> EriC^^: thanks :)
[09:20] <grumpygills> had no idea it could do that
[09:21] <akik> grumpygills: can you share a screenshot of it?
[09:21] <grumpygills> akik: it's not on this machine, so...no
[09:22] <grumpygills> akik: it's the last option in the GRUB menu, and it literally just says "System Setup", and all it does is reboot the comp into the UEFI menu
[09:22] <akik> grumpygills: ok thanks
[09:24] <surajit> Which is better Kali linux or Ubuntu for some one who new in ubuntu?
[09:25] <Myrtti> surajit: this is Ubuntu support channel, so of course the answer will be Ubuntu
[09:25] <MegaManSec> windows
[09:27] <surajit> Can I install metasploit framework in ubuntu 14.04?
[09:30] <surajit>  Can I install metasploit framework in ubuntu 14.04?
[09:30] <surajit>  Can I install metasploit framework in ubuntu 14.04?
[09:30] <surajit>  Can I install metasploit framework in ubuntu 14.04?
[09:30] <jushur> surajit: no
[09:31] <Mathisen> surajit, stop spam
[09:31] <surajit>  Can I install metasploit framework in ubuntu 14.04?
[09:31] <surajit>  Can I install metasploit framework in ubuntu 14.04?
[09:31] <MegaManSec> w/hois surajit
[09:31] <MegaManSec> ..
[09:32] <MegaManSec> is it racist that i guessed he was from india, and it was right?
[09:32] <rory> no, his name is "suraj" and he works in IT
[09:32] <MegaManSec> i've never met anybody with the name suraj
[09:36] <Guest43328> Hello and good morning
[09:36] <surajit> its not morning
[09:37] <Guest43328> ok
[09:37] <Guest43328> where you come from
[09:37] <surajit> heaven
[09:38] <Guest43328> iḿ in germany Town Essen
[09:39] <surajit> I am in INDIA , DELHI
[09:39] <Guest43328> oh so fare away
[09:42] <Guest43328> Here is it 10:41 a clock
[09:42] <surajit> yeah .
[09:43] <jushur> !offtopic Guest43328 surajit
[09:43] <jushur> !offtopic | Guest43328 surajit
[09:44] <surajit> ok.ok.
[09:46] <surajit> what is the best browser for ubuntu?
[09:46] <Guest43328> Firefox
[09:47] <surajit> why not opera?
[09:48] <Guest43328> Here in Germany send another Browser as Firefox to much Dates back to the Provider
[09:48] <surajit> oh
[09:49] <jushur> so you want to get a +q permanently in here?
[09:49] <surajit> no.sorry
[09:49] <Guest43328> It is better the Browser send nothing back - Datenschutz -
[09:51] <Guest43328> Nobudy shout recive any dates like Microsoft or google
[09:51] <varspoolmail> #
[09:52] <varspoolmail> #asterisk-dev
[09:57] <EX-Ploit> how old?
[10:01] <Guest43328> very old
[10:01] <EX-Ploit> ha ha ha ha ..............
[10:02] <Guest43328> and you
[10:02] <EX-Ploit> 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
[10:03] <Guest43328> Where you come from EX-Ploit?
[10:05] <hateball> !ot| Guest14328, EX-Ploit
[10:06] <EX-Ploit> sure
[10:06] <crazyhorse18> i am unable to connect to a share i have just created in ubuntu 15.04
[10:07] <Dron> Hi All
[10:08] <crazyhorse18> the share is in /mnt/lrghdd/remote-backups with permissions 700 to the user i'm trying to access the share with..  i created the share by right clicking and typing create share
[10:08] <Guest43328> crazyhorse next mound give it a new one Ubuntu 16.04
[10:08] <Guest43328> Hi Dron
[10:08] <crazyhorse18> Guest43328, why's that they've fixed up some smb stuff?
[10:09] <vuurdraak> i have never shared stuff, but what about trying to give even more permissions like 770 or what ever
[10:09] <EX-Ploit> how to copy files to android avd and android emulator ?
[10:09] <crazyhorse18> i just can't authenticate against the share
[10:09] <Guest43328> I dont now
[10:10] <gregf_> hello, my machine has/is run/running out of space
[10:10] <vuurdraak> this is a share on a local network not ?
[10:10] <Dron> Can anyone familiar with systemd clear some moment for me? Can I tune logging to hold logs not for amount of data, but hold records for last N days? Not found anything about this moment. Thanks.
[10:10] <vuurdraak> @gregf time to buy a new disk :) ?
[10:10] <crazyhorse18> vuurdraak, local network.. full connectivity, i can ssh / rsync
[10:11] <Guest43328> I dont have any problems with smb
[10:11] <vuurdraak> @ crazyhorse18 , yeh like i said i never shared stuff like that in ubuntu, but the only thing i can come up with is setting all permissions on the share wide open, see if it helps, for user & group
[10:12] <vuurdraak> as u now only gave permissions to the user i think
[10:12] <crazyhorse18> it's not accepting the username/password
[10:12] <crazyhorse18> but i am able to ssh on
[10:12] <vuurdraak> ah o.O
[10:17] <crazyhorse18> this is going to be one of those
[10:17] <crazyhorse18> have to format my computer to fix issues
[10:17] <highwayman> formatting solves most problems yes
[10:17] <crazyhorse18> problem is, it takes me about 4 days to get my computer to work again
[10:19] <Guest43328> In Germany gives the sides "Ubuntuusers" there you can find an answer to the most issues.
[10:22] <crazyhorse18> is there another photo importing program other than shotwell that comes with ubuntu?
[10:22] <rory> When I'm adding certs to a "full chain" SSL certificate for use in nginx, does my SSL cert go at the start or the end of the chain?
[10:24] <EX-Ploit> may be Rapid Photo Downloadder -<crazyhorse18>
[10:24] <Guest43328> i have Ubuntustudio there same photoprogramms more
[10:27] <Ascavasaion> I have been editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf for ages, and nothing i do makes any difference.    It is as if the xorg.conf file is not even being used.
[10:27] <Ascavasaion> Any advice please... this 640x480 resolution is killing me.
[10:27] <gregf_> hello, sorry got caught in a call :|
[10:28] <gregf_> ok, i've got this folder : ~/.Private/ <== which is taking 34 gigs of space
[10:28] <gregf_> i'm not sure if i;ve even created it, but is this specific to ubuntu please?
[10:28] <nullius> i think thats a the folder for encrypted stuff
[10:29] <gregf_> nullius: yes.
[10:29] <gregf_> its got files of the type : ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWYhddW9eP1.g-TTjO5QCKwgR9x5BHuamSwoSr4kk6n2v9LqoxH5pHeA0k--
[10:30] <gregf_> i've managed to delete some of those 'many' files
[10:30] <cfhowlett> bad idea ...
[10:30] <gregf_> nullius: please would you know how that folder gets created?
[10:30] <gregf_> cfhowlett: is is?
[10:30] <gregf_> s/is$/it/
[10:30] <cfhowlett> greg__, man ecryptfs for the details
[10:31] <nullius> if ubuntu automagically set up that, deleting your encrypted files means you might not get them back, shouldve decrypted first
[10:31] <gregf_> ok, but i dont want my disk to be encrypted
[10:31] <cfhowlett> and yet it is ...
[10:31] <gregf_> oh , let me read the man page for it
[10:32] <gregf_> cfhowlett: when installing ubuntu, i think it asked me about encryption *faintly remembers*
[10:32] <gregf_> /home/gregf/.Private           98256516  93081308    160988 100% /home/gregf
[10:32] <gregf_> thats what it says
[10:33] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasaion: what graphics hardware are you dealing with?
[10:33] <gregf_> i've removed some huge file and yet there is no space: *thats the output for df -k*
[10:33] <cfhowlett> you can remove encryption.  the stuff inside the encrypted folder may/may not be recoverable as you have delted some
[10:33] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, A very old NVidia Riva TNT2
[10:33] <sudeep> #kannel
[10:33] <gregf_> cfhowlett: i've deleted 3 files i think
[10:34] <cfhowlett> my advice: back up essential data, remove the encryption, go forth and sin no more.
[10:35] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasion: that's approximately the oldest card supported by nouveau it seems: https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames/ I guess you are running nouveau?
[10:36] <crazyhorse18> cfhowlett, i've been wondering about that.. if you get partial corruption on data.. can you still decrypt the volume?
[10:36] <crazyhorse18> and get anything that wasn't directly corrupted
[10:36] <cfhowlett> crazyhorse18, so far as I know, removing those files frags the rest of recovery
[10:37] <cfhowlett> crazyhorse18, i.e. it's all or nothing
[10:37] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, I think so... i did a sudo apt-get install nouveau-firmware
[10:37] <crazyhorse18> cfhowlett, hang on. so if it gets a little bit corrupted.. your entire volume has gone?
[10:37] <crazyhorse18> :-/
[10:37] <gregf_> cfhowlett: thanks. let me try that
[10:38] <jushur> well its doable, actually. but requires expert knowledge of the encryption used. and that the parts containing the initial encryption keys are still there.
[10:38] <cfhowlett> crazyhorse18, again, so for as *I* know --- limited on my best dayu
[10:38] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasaion: I wonder if you didn't end up running VESA or something.. you have the nouveau module in lsmod? What does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[10:39] <jushur> Ascavasaion: pastebin output off "lspci -vnn" and the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:40] <jushur> !pastebin | Ascavasaion
[10:40] <Guest43328> by by
[10:43] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasaion: perhaps KMS is not enabled.. you don't happen to have nomodeset in your cmdline or some fancy framebuffer driver?
[10:44] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasaion: what does cat /proc/fb say?
[10:45] <Ascavasaion> /var/log/Xorg.0.log  = http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340600/
[10:46] <Ascavasaion> lspci -vnn = http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340602/
[10:47] <Ascavasaion> joel@garage:~$ cat /proc/fb
[10:47] <Ascavasaion> 0 VESA VGA
[10:51] <jushur> Ascavasaion: looks like you have disabled KMS somehow. check your grub boot cmds so it does not have "nomodeset"
[10:51] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ and jushur , I pasted above.
[10:53] <jushur> Ascavasaion: have you been trying to get nvidia driver to work with your setup?
[10:53] <ABC-XYZ> yeah, kms seems disabled.. what does your /proc/cmdline say?
[10:53] <ABC-XYZ> changed anything there?
[10:54] <jushur> Ascavasaion: in a terminal do cat "/proc/cmdline"
[10:54] <jushur> without the "" :)
[10:54] <Ascavasaion> jushur, In grub.cfg I found "linux	/boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-30-generic root=UUID=1f325f14-88bb-4ab0-a27f-46511438da62 ro recovery nomodeset"
[10:54] <jushur> Ascavasaion: you need to remove the nomodeset part
[10:55] <jushur> Ascavasaion: you are running in rescue mode now or?
[10:55] <Ascavasaion> jushur, Not as far as I know
[10:55] <ABC-XYZ> you should try and remove nomodeset from /etc/default/grub in the line that reads GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and then run update-grub i think
[10:56] <jushur> Ascavasaion: you need to know what the current boot is, do the "cat /proc/cmdline" in a terminal.
[10:56] <Ascavasaion> jushur, joel@garage:~$ cat /proc/cmdline
[10:56] <Ascavasaion> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-30-generic root=UUID=1f325f14-88bb-4ab0-a27f-46511438da62 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[10:57] <metazploit> hi :)
[10:57] <ahmet> hi
[10:57] <ahmet> dfdf
[10:59] <ahmet> \quit
[10:59] <ahmet> rer
[10:59] <Ascavasaion> ahmet, try /quit
[10:59] <jushur> Ascavasaion: you have any files in /etc/modprobe.d/ that is disabling modeseting?
[10:59] <ahmet> thanks
[11:00] <Ascavasaion> jushur, No idea
[11:00] <jushur> Ascavasaion: i asked before if you tried to use the "nvidia" driver, as i know it tries to disable the KMS parts in kernel modules.
[11:01] <ABC-XYZ> you don't happen to have /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf?
[11:01] <Ascavasaion> jushur, I did try the nvidia driver fromnvidia website, but it never installed
[11:01] <ABC-XYZ> If you have that file, that's probably blacklisting the nouveau module
[11:01] <ABC-XYZ> lsmod|grep nouveau
[11:02] <ABC-XYZ> returns nothing?
[11:02] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, No file like that... or with "nvidia" in its name
[11:02] <jushur> Ascavasaion: rmmod nouveau
[11:02] <jushur> Ascavasaion: modprobe nouveau modeset=1
[11:02] <jushur> Ascavasaion: and then restart X
[11:02] <Ascavasaion> joel@garage:~$ lsmod|grep nouveau gives nothing but  a cursor prompt
[11:03] <Ascavasaion> joel@garage:~$ rmmod nouveau
[11:03] <Ascavasaion> rmmod: ERROR: Module nouveau is not currently loaded
[11:03] <jushur> you have a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ blacklist-nouveau.conf or so?
[11:04] <jushur> Ascavasaion: if you do the modprobe nouveau modeset=1 , it works?
[11:05] <Ascavasaion> joel@garage:~$ sudo modprobe nouveau modeset=1
[11:05] <Ascavasaion> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nouveau': No such device
[11:06] <Ascavasaion> jushur, no file with nouveau in modprobe.d
[11:06] <jushur> Ascavasaion: show us the output from "ls /etc/modprobe.d/" , pastebin it.
[11:07] <ravja> Hi all - can I ask a Mint question here as Mint is based on Ubuntu?
[11:07] <cfhowlett> !mint | ravja
[11:08] <ravja> ubottu, ok thanks - sorry to have bothered you
[11:08] <hacked311> hello guys
[11:08] <ABC-XYZ> grep 'nouveau\|nvidia' /etc/modprobe.d/* anything?
[11:09] <Ascavasaion> jushur, You menioned KMD... what is DKMS?  that is there
[11:09] <Ascavasaion> jushur, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340687/
[11:10] <ABC-XYZ> DKMS dynamically recompiles out of tree kernel modules when installing a new kernel.. (such as the proprietary nvidia module)
[11:10] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, So not the same thing I presume hehe
[11:14] <jushur> Ascavasaion: maybe a reinstallation of the kernel will fix it. thinking what ever you did removed the proper support for the KMS (modesetting) and nouveau modules.
[11:14] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasaion : if you try that grep command, you can ensure the nvidia installer has not put a blacklist on nouveau in any file. You don't happen to have any nvidia module loaded? lsmod|grep nvidia ?
[11:15] <Ascavasaion> joel@garage:~$ lsmod|grep nvidia gives nothing..just back tothe prompt
[11:16] <ABC-XYZ> grep 'nouveau\|nvidia' /etc/modprobe.d/* ?
[11:16] <Ascavasaion> jushur, How do I reinstall the kernel?
[11:17] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, I think that found what you were looking for...
[11:17] <Ascavasaion> joel@garage:~$ grep 'nouveau\|nvidia' /etc/modprobe.d/*
[11:17] <Ascavasaion> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf:blacklist nvidiafb
[11:17] <ABC-XYZ> Hmm, that is actually not the one; nvidiafb actually conflicts with nouveau, so it should be blacklisted
[11:18] <Ascavasaion> :(
[11:18] <jushur> Ascavasaion: all ppl have that by default. its correct.
[11:18] <Triffid_Hunter> nvidiafb conflicts with everything, I use vesa + v86d for fb on nvidia
[11:19] <Ascavasaion> What is fb?
[11:19] <ABC-XYZ> the framebuffer, which enables fancy console graphics
[11:19] <jushur> Ascavasaion: look so you have /lib/modules/YOURKERNEL/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko , use the kernel you have loaded in the YOURKERNEL part.
[11:19] <Triffid_Hunter> Ascavasaion: it lets you have high res text consoles with graphics, before X starts up and does proper graphical stuff
[11:21] <Ascavasaion> jushur, Yes, that nouveau.ko file is at that location.
[11:22] <jushur> Ascavasaion: what exactly do you have in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ dir? and xorg.conf
[11:23] <jushur> Ascavasaion: you said you edit the xorg.conf. where did you do this?
[11:24] <Ascavasaion> jushur, There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory
[11:25] <jushur> Ascavasaion: well yes, its not by default. this is why i asked where you edit your xorg.conf
[11:26] <Ascavasaion> xorg.conf is at /etc/X11/
[11:26] <Ascavasaion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340740/
[11:26] <ABC-XYZ> According to his xorg.log the X nouveau driver did try to load but failed to find KMS; so perhaps the problem lies with the nouveau kernel module failing to load? Perhaps dmesg|grep 'nouveau\|nvidia' would be interesting
[11:27] <Ascavasaion> dmesg|grep 'nouveau\|nvidia' goes straight back to prompt
[11:29] <jushur> Ascavasaion: just rename that file to something like xorg.conf_disabled , and then relaunch X
[11:30] <Ascavasaion> dmesg|grep 'vesa' gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340755/
[11:30] <jushur> Ascavasaion: dmesg | grep modeset
[11:31] <Ascavasaion> dmesg | grep modeset goes straight to prompt.
[11:32] <jushur> Ascavasaion: it should say 2 lines, loaded, and enabled. basicly
[11:32] <jushur> loaded/initializing
[11:32] <Ascavasaion> jushur, What should have those two lines loaded and enabled?
[11:34] <jushur> the dmesg|grep modeset , should produce 2 lines.
[11:34] <Ascavasaion> It gives nothing.
[11:35] <Ascavasaion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340755/
[11:35] <jushur> Ascavasaion: pastebin the dkms.conf file.
[11:36] <Ascavasaion> jushur, where is that file?
[11:37] <jushur> Ascavasaion: in your /etc/modeprobe.d/ dir
[11:37] <jushur> Ascavasaion: also want to se how your /etc/default/grub looks
[11:38] <Ascavasaion> jushur, Empty file... just had three lines hashed out.
[11:39] <Ascavasaion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340790/
[11:39] <GeekNerd> is http://www.hecklerspray.com/vanessa-hudgens-bikini-pictures  considered on- or off-topic here?
[11:40] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasion: lspci -k|grep -n5 VGA
[11:40] <GeekNerd> if I get unbanned from the offtopic channel I will /part this one
[11:40] <ABC-XYZ> anything interesting ?
[11:40] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[11:40] <Myrtti> GeekNerd: you know full well it's offtopic.
[11:41] <ABC-XYZ> Some googling reveals the nouveau kernel module might perhaps just not work anymore with the NV05/NV04 cards. the older nv driver should work, but isn't supported anymore by newer kernels afaik ..
[11:42] <jushur> Ascavasaion: if you do lsb_release -a and uname -a
[11:42] <Ascavasaion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340799/
[11:43] <Ascavasaion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340802/
[11:44] <GeekNerd> Myrtti: is your face off topic too?
[11:44] <ABC-XYZ> hmm, could you paste the full lspci -k ?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> !ops | GeekNerd trolling
[11:44] <GeekNerd> okay seriously
[11:45] <Ascavasaion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340808/
[11:46] <jushur> that gives no usable info?
[11:46] <USERX> Just a quick factcheck: is 15.10 on the direct upgrade path to 16.04 LTS?
[11:46] <jushur> USERX: its been said you will be able to upgrade yes.
[11:46] <cfhowlett>  USERX yes
[11:47] <jushur> Ascavasaion: pastebin the output of "sudo lspci -vnn" need the full vga section atleast
[11:48] <Ascavasaion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340819/
[11:50] <Welastevil> hiu guys!
[11:50] <Welastevil> how to reset ubunto, like, reboot deleting everything except the os?
[11:51] <USERX> OK, jushur, thanks!!
[11:51] <Welastevil> UBUNTU
[11:51] <Ex_Ploit> good question. I also want to kanow.
[11:51] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasion: you don't happen to have anything like rivafb loaded or such.. perhaps paste lsmod ?
[11:51] <Welastevil> in a mac you have RESET option...
[11:52] <Ascavasaion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340835/
[11:54] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, The motherboard has a built in graphics card... an SiS.  i nsee near the bottom of the lsmd it sows the sisagp. idisabled it in CMOS
[11:58] <jushur> Ascavasaion: when you look at the sections, notice most of them specify what driver/moduel is in use. but agp is actually needed for your agp nvidia card.
[11:59] <ABC-XYZ> that is .. interesting.. but I wouldn't know whether that would interfere with the nouveau driver being able to load. modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nouveau': No such device << being the main problem I think
[11:59] <jushur> Ascavasaion: and its not loaded. maybe you need to have the integrated card enabled anyhow?
[11:59] <Ascavasaion> jushur, Okay, let me try with onboard aGP
[11:59] <jushur> ABC-XYZ: i think its because the agp port has no driver?
[11:59] <Ascavasaion> Be right back.
[12:01] <metazploit> Kevin?
[12:07] <Welastevil> how to clean ubuntu deleting every files?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> Welastevil, what exactly do you want to do??
[12:08] <Welastevil> I want to reestart the system from the begining
[12:08] <Welastevil> delet everything, except the OS
[12:08] <cfhowlett> not supported.
[12:09] <Welastevil> like format it...
[12:09] <Welastevil> and auto-reinstall
[12:09] <jushur> Welastevil: unless you installed to a fs that has snapshot feature (zfs/btrfs) and actually made a snapshot after install your not going to be able to do so.
[12:09] <cfhowlett> Welastevil, auto reinstall?   nope.  make an ubuntu USB, reboot to the USB and install
[12:10] <Welastevil> how to do it?
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !usb | Welastevil
[12:10] <Welastevil> ok
[12:10] <Welastevil> and how to fomrtat it at first?
[12:11] <sir123> hi, can someone please explain how to set up a local repository of packages that I have built? without going online?
[12:11] <cfhowlett> Welastevil, you can choose to format in the partitioning part of installation
[12:12] <Welastevil> shich off and press f12?
[12:15] <matthewkim> hi
[12:19] <GnomeKris> so I have a Radeon R9 380 graphics card that over heats and completely powers off my computer when I play Rust. But any other game I have doesn't effect the performance. Is there something I'm doing wrong here?
[12:20] <GnomeKris> running ubuntu 14.04 btw. Playing games only through steam
[12:21] <matthewkim> did you install graphic ca
[12:21] <matthewkim> rd driver
[12:21] <rexwin_> I am getting this when trying to use ssmtp to send emails to gmail using gmail..............  534 5.7.14  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 h85sm5308902pfj.52 - gsmtp ssmtp: Authorization failed (534 5.7.14  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754
[12:22] <rexwin_> I have turned off access for less secure apps
[12:22] <GnomeKris> matthewkim, I used the "additional drivers" installation
[12:23] <GnomeKris> I have the disk to install drivers, but it's set up to install in windows...
[12:25] <GnomeKris> Also, I'm using the proprietary updated drivers, not the open source. Steam won't load any games at all using the open source driver
[12:25] <matthewkim> GnomeKris: then, blow up dust on your graphic card. it will work
[12:25] <GnomeKris> It's a brand new build.
[12:25] <GnomeKris>  there better not be any dust
[12:25] <matthewkim> GnomeKris: okay, sorry
[12:25] <GnomeKris> no biggie
[12:26] <GnomeKris> I've googled all I care to at this point and I don't know why that particular game is causing it to over heat and shut down my entire pc...
[12:26] <GnomeKris> I can't even turn it back on without disconnecting the power first
[12:27] <GnomeKris> maybe amd has a channel
[12:27] <ABC-XYZ> GnomeKris: fglrx drivers have always been pretty buggy. The open source drivers (amdgpu/radeonsi) seem to be making a lot of progress lately.
[12:28] <hateball> GnomeKris: There is also the matter of Rust support on Linux in general...
[12:29] <ABC-XYZ> many cards even have the open source driver outperforming the fglrx driver, but apparently the R9 380 isn't well supported yet
[12:29] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ and jushur I am back... made absolutely no difference.
[12:29] <jushur> GnomeKris: there is a bug with the amd cards and their drivers, affecting both windows and linux. basicly the manufacturer set the speeds of fans defaults to low. and you need to manualy turn hte speed up. atleast 50%+
[12:29] <GnomeKris> ABC-XYZ: I read up on that yesterday, and I agree that the open source seem to be making a lot of progress, but the open source drivers won't even let steam load any games at all
[12:29] <ABC-XYZ> but tbh fglrx seems to be going EOL, and i'd expect alot of progress in amdgpu
[12:29] <GnomeKris> I've also read where people have the same problem with this card in windows...
[12:29] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasion: i wonder if you wouldn't happen to have any blacklist in your initramfs
[12:30] <GnomeKris> must be something specific to the game.
[12:31] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, Where is that?
[12:31] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasaion: lsinitramfs /boot/initrd*|grep 'nvidia\|nouveau'
[12:32] <jushur> GnomeKris: what card you have? lspci -vnn , and pastebin the output. of the section with the card.
[12:33] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15340961/
[12:34] <GnomeKris> jushur: http://pastebin.com/kDcd8vWP
[12:34] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasaion: nope, doesn't seem like it. did you ever get any higher resolution booting from live media?
[12:37] <rigel_> how do i get apt-get to stop complaining about linux-headers-4.2.0-23 linux-headers-4.2.0-23-generic linux-headers-4.2.0-25  linux-headers-4.2.0-25-generic linux-image-4.2.0-23-generic  linux-image-4.2.0-25-generic linux-image-extra-4.2.0-23-generic linux-image-extra-4.2.0-25-generic that ubuntu installs to keep older kernels as backup? using apt-get autoremove only makes ubuntu install it...
[12:37] <rigel_> ...once again under the guise of software update.
[12:37] <cfhowlett> rigel, manually delete them
[12:38] <rigel_> what if i want to keep them though?
[12:38] <ABC-XYZ> apt-mark manual foo
[12:38] <ABC-XYZ> perhaps?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> rigel, live with it
[12:39] <cfhowlett> (though why you would want to keep obsolete kernels is beyond me ...)
[12:39] <rigel_> but apt-get complains everytime i install a new packagee
[12:39] <boxmein> help my font renderer is exploding
[12:39] <boxmein> this is A-Za-z0-9 in Hexchat: http://imgur.com/grKhtQM
[12:39] <boxmein> chrome renders fine
[12:39] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, Yes, got 1024x768 with Puppy Live Boot and Bodhi Linux
[12:39] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasaion: did you get anything like that with an ubuntu live medium?
[12:40] <rigel_> cfhowlett: once had a kernel panic. paranoia
[12:40] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, Haver not tried.
[12:40] <logan__> hi !
[12:40] <cfhowlett> rigel, best practice: keep the most recent kernel plus the next older for backup
[12:40] <Mr_Cyclops> thats just right cfhowlett
[12:40] <rigel_> okay, how do i do that?
[12:40] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasaion: trying that would pretty much rule out interference of any manually installed nvidia driver i think
[12:41] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasion: but perhaps you might have some luck at #nouveau (might take some time though) (the nouveau driver is the only one that's going to support your card with recent kernels, i think)
[12:41] <logan__> exit
[12:41] <cfhowlett> rigel, delete all except the most recent two
[12:41] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasion the official nvidia driver doesn't support your card since version 74.xx
[12:41] <rigel_> okay
[12:41] <rigel_> thanks for your help
[12:42] <cfhowlett> happy2help! rigel
[12:43] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, I did a sudo apt-get purge nvidia-* earlier and the resolution  was perfect at 1024x768 but the moment I rebooted it went back to the 640x468.  So the computer can definitely work at that rewsolution with this installation.  Something is hindering it... beginnning to think it is me.
[12:43] <Ascavasaion> 640x480
[12:47] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, I am giving up... Linux has failed me again, and i have failed it again.
[12:47] <Ascavasaion> ABC-XYZ, Thank you for trying
[12:47] <Ascavasaion> jushur, Thank you too for your help.
[12:48] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasion: just 1 thought, perhaps something is in your /etc/default/grub ?
[12:48] <phil42> Ascavasaion,  you know what this means.  you have to commit irc hari kari.   change your nick
[12:49] <ABC-XYZ> Ascavasion: np anyway, too bad it failed
[12:52] <kronos> hey guys
[12:53] <Guest99008> any tool for ubuntu where i can read a DS_Store file?
[12:53] <rexwin_> I did this and it resol ved Some apps and devices use less secure sign-in technology, which makes your account more vulnerable. You can turn off access for these apps, which we recommend, or turn on access if you want to use them despite the risks.
[12:57] <Kr0n0s> any tool for ubuntu where i can read a DS_Store file?
[13:01] <R13ose> How do I put the battery status back in the top right area?
[13:02] <EriC^^> R13ose: restart indicator-power
[13:02] <R13ose> EriC^^: thanks
[13:02] <EriC^^> np
[13:03] <R13ose> How come xfce4 notifications don't do anything when I click show?
[13:22] <six86> Hello. I'm trying to start x11vnc with a systemd service. But right after starting it receives "signal 15" end stops. When starting the line manually it keeps running. Where does the signal come from? Systemd itself?
[13:28] <Dron> Can anyone familiar with systemd clear some moment for me? Can I tune logging to hold logs not for amount of data, but hold records for last N days? Not found anything about this moment. Thanks.
[13:28] <pesho> irc.omega.bg
[13:31] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[13:35] <jp99> How do I get a list of other machines IPs on the local ethernet network.
[13:35] <BluesKaj> ohwdy folks
[13:35] <jp99> I can get my own just fine.
[13:35] <jushur> !xubuntu | R13ose
[13:36] <BluesKaj> howdy, even :-)
[13:36] <sruli> i need to execute a script on start, i added it to startup application but i want to see it running in terminal, what command can i use to do that?
[13:36] <R13ose> jushur: thanks
[13:36] <ouroumov_> jp99, I'd go with nmap, but it's probably not the most efficient option.
[13:37] <R13ose> BluesKaj: Hi
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Hi R13ose
[13:38] <R13ose> BluesKaj: what is going on?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> not much, R13ose, just my morning coffee, how about you?
[13:39] <jp99> ouroumov_ Yeah I have just downloaded Nmap. how do I check it is it nmap 192.168.1.1/24 does this look correct
[13:39] <R13ose> BluesKaj: trying to figure out an issue, and move forward
[13:40] <BluesKaj> R13ose, and what issue is that?
[13:40] <ouroumov_> jp99, yes. For a quick discovery of your Linux hosts try sudo nmap -sP -T5 192.168.1.0/24 (note that won't scan your 192.168.2.0 network)
[13:40] <R13ose> BluesKaj: How come xfce4 notifications don't do anything when I click show?
[13:41] <ouroumov_> jp99, the "T5" flag is "insane speed setting", which is acceptable since it's your own net.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> R13ose, sorry never used xfce, dunno much about it.
[13:42] <R13ose> BluesKaj: thanks.  I am asking in the #xubuntu room
[13:42] <ouroumov_> jp99, if you have non-linux hosts use -sS instead
[13:42] <jp99> ouroumov_ Yeah I will just try this now... I have nmap installed. I am workin on lab class for college. But class is over so Im logged in from home. I do know there are 30mahcine connected through ethernet, So I'm goign to try get the IP and scan their IP for port. all the machiens are ubuntu 14.04
[13:47] <six86> Seems to be a problem with Policykit...
[13:49] <jp99> ouroumov_ Thanks for this help
[13:50] <jp99> ouroumov_ Worked out for me :)
[13:51] <smoker05> can I upgrade to 15.10 to 14.04 without formatting ?
[13:54] <smoker05> and I am using SSD, still most of the application loads pretty slow. Like they used to loads way faster in Windows.
[13:55] <k1l> smoker05: you can use the online upgrades without formating. but for 14.04 to 15.10 you need to go to 14.10 first, then to 15.04 and then to 15.10 (and till july you need to upgrade to 16.04).
[13:55] <smoker05> oh
[13:55] <k1l> smoker05: so i recommend staying on 14.04 and to the LTS to LTS upgrade around july to 16.04.1
[13:55] <smoker05> okay.
[13:55] <smoker05> But any idea, why programs launch slow ?
[13:56] <k1l> what is slow? what machine is it? how much ram? what desktop? what program?
[13:56] <smoker05> like when I try to launch Rythmbox from top Sound icon, it keeeeps loadding for 20 -25 seconds,
[13:56] <k1l> smoker05: rhythmbox is scanning for music you already added on start.
[13:57] <smoker05> 8GB Ram, OS is on Samsung 850 Pro 500GB SSD, processor - i5370k 3.4Ghz to 3.8Ghz Turbo.
[13:57] <smoker05> I haven't added my library yet. It just the music which I played last time.
[13:57] <k1l> what gives you "uname -a" in terminal?
[13:57] <smoker05> I haven't added my library.
[13:58] <smoker05> Linux harsh-desktop 4.2.0-30-generic #36~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 26 18:49:23 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:58] <m00n_urn> How do you chroot and lock users of the same network into a custom root directory?
[13:59] <mmkumr> Hii. I have problem that I am trying to format my memory card using gparted and when I am formatting my pen drive message is showing that operation successfull but after some time contents in the memory which are there before formatting memory card again comes back.
[14:00] <mmkumr> s/ pen drive /memory card
[14:00] <smoker05> k1l, what media player you recommend, which simple and good.
[14:01] <smoker05> I have Rythembox and Clementine.
[14:01] <kanutux_> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17001/how-to-format-a-usb-drive-in-ubuntu-using-gparted/
[14:02] <m00n_urn> kanutux_:
[14:03] <k1l> smoker05: i dont use my system to play music. i just use radiotray here :)
[14:03] <m00n_urn> k1l: How do you chroot and lock users of the same network into a custom root directory?
[14:04] <smoker05> oh nice.
[14:05] <mmkumr> kanutux_: I had gone through that step only which is menstioned in your given url.
[14:06] <smoker05> k1l, and is it normal to have little FPS drops and sluggish in Games ?
[14:07] <k1l> smoker05: what gpu?
[14:07] <smoker05> I find a lot of fps drop, games not as smooth as it was in windows.
[14:07] <lazybones_> lo all..
[14:07] <smoker05> ATI Sapphire HD 7950 Vapor-X 3GB DDR5
[14:08] <k1l> smoker05: on systemsettings, software and updates: last tab. there you can make sure to instal all the needed drivers for your system
[14:10] <smoker05> k1l, it come up with this : http://i.imgur.com/eTItHeP.png
[14:11] <k1l> smoker05: ok
[14:12] <smoker05> do I need those?
[14:12] <smoker05> because I already have catalyst installed.
[14:13] <k1l> smoker05: you loaded something from the amd website?
[14:15] <smoker05> you mean the driver?
[14:15] <smoker05> I downloaded driver from AMD website and installed it.
[14:15] <k1l> yes. you said you installed catalyst already
[14:15] <smoker05> Yeah.
[14:15] <k1l> oh, mixing the drivers frm amd website and the ubuntu repo could be an issue
[14:16] <k1l> but i am not an amd guy, so maybe others can take a look. i would start with "dpkg -l |grep fglrx"
[14:16] <smoker05> Before downloading that, I trid that Ubuntu Repo, every time I rebook, I got the System graphics error.
[14:16] <smoker05> *reboot
[14:17] <smoker05> I would never install that, repo drivers, I tried those, gave me nightmare, as I am new to linux.
[14:18] <Fyr> hey guys, is there a channel for avconv?
[14:18] <smoker05> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[14:19] <k1l> !alis | Fyr
[14:19] <Fyr> No help available for avconv.
[14:19] <Fyr> ='(
[14:22] <chotaz`w> Anyone using the guake terminal? I'm having some issues, not being able to change my preferences. I think it might because because of wrong permissions on the configuration file, but I can't find said file for my life <.<
[14:22] <wsdjeg> by default it is gnome-terminal
[14:23] <popey> it's in .gconf/apps/guake
[14:23] <wsdjeg> I just use guake for three days
[14:23] <fumblehool> Hello everyone! I am trying to install openssh-server on my ubuntu 14.04LTS machine but i am getting this error message- http://paste.ubuntu.com/15341370/
[14:24] <fumblehool> Can someone suggest a fix?
[14:25] <k1l> fumblehool: what gives you a "lsb_release -d"?
[14:25] <chotaz`w> popey, thanks a bunch, never thought of looking under .gconf. What type of applications end up writing configs here?
[14:26] <R13ose> fumblehool: read this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[14:26] <fumblehool> @k1l it shows Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[14:29] <k1l> fumblehool: run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt install openssh-server"
[14:30] <fumblehool> @k1l No luck, same error
[14:31] <k1l> fumblehool: "apt cache policy openssh-client"
[14:31] <k1l> please show in a pastebin
[14:31] <smoker05> k1l, I wanted to install some themes, i was checking this out : http://www.noobslab.com/2014/05/numix-theme-for-ubuntulinux-mintother.html
[14:32] <smoker05> It says how to install, but how can I remove it later ?
[14:32] <k1l> !ppa-purge | smoker05
[14:33] <fumblehool> k1l: "E: Invalid operation cache
[14:33] <ioria> fumblehool,  apt-cache policy openssh-client
[14:34] <NickMessing> ls
[14:34] <skinux> What is the recommended way to do a version upgrade? I need to do two non-LTS upgrades and then I'm gonna do LTS upgrade when it's released.
[14:34] <k1l> fumblehool: sorry missed a - :fumblehool: "apt-cache policy openssh-client
[14:35] <chotaz`w> skinux, 'do-release-upgrade'
[14:35] <k1l> skinux: from what release to what release?
[14:36] <popey> !upgrade | skinux
[14:36] <Axy> can someone suggest me a tutorial or such, for installing ubuntu on a macbook pro from 2009
[14:36] <k1l> hint, since non LTS releases only have 9 months support you will need eol-upgrade
[14:36] <fumblehool> k1l: Done! ran "sudo apt-get install openssh-client=1:6.6p1-2ubuntu1"  Then ran "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[14:36] <k1l> Axy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[14:36] <fumblehool> k1l: Thanks!
[14:37] <Axy> KiloJuliet, THANK YOU
[14:37] <Axy> k1l, I mean
[14:37] <Axy> sorry KiloJuliet :)
[14:37] <k1l> fumblehool: that was not what i said. there seems to be something wrong with that systems package system
[14:37] <fumblehool> k1l: Actually google-chrome-stable package was broken so it created a lot of mess
[14:38] <NickMessing> Hello, I used create_ap to create access point in ubuntu and now my network manager doesn't see any wireless networks
[14:38] <NickMessing> can someone help me please?
[14:38] <k1l> fumblehool: "sudo apt update&&sudo apt full-upgrade" in a pastebin please
[14:39] <skinux> 14.04 upgrades to 15.04 or would it be 14.10?
[14:39] <k1l> NickMessing: if you use another system to handle the wifi device NetworkManager is not managing it anymore
[14:39] <k1l> skinux: you are on 14.04 now?
[14:39] <skinux> 14.04.1 technically I believe
[14:39] <k1l> skinux: 14.10 and 15.04 are dead now
[14:39] <k1l> skinux: so why do you want to upgrade to 15.10 now?
[14:40] <skinux> I want to work my way up to the latest.
[14:40] <k1l> skinux: you know there is the hardware enablement stack?
[14:40] <Lorne> Hey guys...I'm using an NVIDIA card for my monitor...and periodically, after ubuntu updates... I need to reinstall the video drivers to get my NVIDIA card to work again...is there any way to stop having to do this?
[14:40] <skinux> kll: Don't know anything about it
[14:40] <NickMessing> k1l: how can I "give" this device back to NetworkManager?
[14:40] <k1l> skinux: thats a bit late. isnt it? the issue is, that 14.10 and 15.04 are dead already. so its going to be 3 upgrades and manual work with sources to get to 15.10.
[14:41] <k1l> skinux: if you just want the 15.10 kernel and xorg you can use the hwe
[14:41] <k1l> !hwe | skinux
[14:41] <k1l> NickMessing: undo the changes create_ap did
[14:41] <smoker05> k1l, after installing theme from Terminal, how to enable it ? do i have to reboot?
[14:42] <skinux> I'm looking for newer version of various packages.
[14:42] <skinux> That's why I want to upgrade.
[14:42] <k1l> smoker05: use the theme chooser in system settings
[14:42] <k1l> !eolupgrade | skinux
[14:42] <jerware> Hi fellaz!
[14:43] <SchrodingersScat> jerware: well, howdy there!
[14:43] <fumblehool> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15341444/
[14:44] <NickMessing> k1l: I rebooted and it still is unavailable
[14:44] <smoker05> k1l, there is nothing called "Numix" which I installed. http://i.imgur.com/BEKdG8I.png
[14:44] <skinux> Using old-releases repo (deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME main restricted universe multiverse) CODENAME should be the release I'm using or the one I want to upgrade to?
[14:44] <k1l> NickMessing: look into the /etc/network/interfaces what is using that card
[14:45] <k1l> skinux: the current onw
[14:45] <k1l> *one
[14:45] <skinux> And it'll upgrade to the next old-release?
[14:45] <k1l> skinux: yes. that is the path you want to go
[14:45] <Axy> I couldn't find any specific installation guides about how to install ubuntu on a macbook pro 5.5
[14:46] <skinux> So the old-release repo for Trusty actually has packages for the next version?
[14:46] <NickMessing> k1l: looks like nothing https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d95526b8b5f58f3a04a8
[14:47] <k1l> NickMessing: well, i dont know what changes create_ap did. look that up and undo that
[14:47] <NickMessing> k1l: here is NetworkManager.conf, is here something wrong https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3f92b79715fbb5ed8625
[14:47] <NickMessing> ?
[14:48] <k1l> skinux: no, the upgrader changes the release itself and then looks up the next release. which is dead in your case. so it needs that repos.
[14:49] <skinux> So, use deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted universe multiverse to repos to upgrade to the version AFTER Trusty?
[14:49] <k1l> skinux: upgrading now from a LTS to the 15.10 is just a broken concept. why not stay on the LTS until july if you were on the LTS now for nearly 2 years.
[14:49] <skinux> Okay, then, I replace sources.list with those repos or just add them to it?
[14:49] <k1l> skinux: read that wiki page. i got clear instructions
[14:50] <skinux> I'm been using Windows for quite a while. Only a week or two ago was able to get Linux installed again.
[14:50] <R13ose> again?
[14:52] <k1l> smoker05: maybe a relogin is needed
[14:54] <r2rx> Hello, everyone.
[14:54] <r2rx> Does anyone here have experience with installation/configuration of MySQL & MariaDB?
[14:55] <hateball> r2rx: Ask the real question instead of taking a poll
[14:55] <r2rx> Alright. I've encountered an issue where MySQL and MariaDB are not working.
[14:55] <r2rx> More specifically, mariadb-server-10.0 will not uninstall.
[14:56] <r2rx> When I try, I get this message:
[14:56] <r2rx> Failed to stop mysql.service: Unit mysql.service not loaded.
[14:56] <r2rx> invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "stop" failed.
[14:56] <r2rx> MySQL is currently not installed.
[14:57] <r2rx> Failed to start mysql.service: Unit mysql.service failed to load: No such file or directory.
[14:57] <r2rx> This one package will not uninstall. So I can't properly reinstall MariaDB or remove it to reinstall MySQL
[14:59] <jushur> r2rx: stoping a service is not uninstalling it
[14:59] <r2rx> I know.
[14:59] <r2rx> But that is attempted during the uninstallation.
[15:00] <smoker05> hey k1l you know that this error is : E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[15:00] <smoker05> should I ignore this or something is wrong ?
[15:01] <nullius> i just witnessed a news blunder, they're good
[15:01] <nullius> she said the s word
[15:02] <nullius> sorry wrong room
[15:02] <jushur> smoker05: well, there is a few options. all of them bad.
[15:02] <jushur> i guess the issue is now going global, expecting a major shutdown of servers coming days..
[15:03] <jushur> options/reasons
[15:04] <exedore6> What issue? Link?
[15:04] <k1l> smoker05: like always: show the complete output in a pastebin
[15:05] <boriseto> I've read an article that Canonical (Ubuntu) is deprecating fglrx from 16.04 forward. What does that mean for the users with 2 graphic cards?
[15:06] <jushur> boriseto: im asuming you will end up using the amdgpu driver instead?
[15:07] <boriseto> jushur, I know that, but when I would like to use the power saving features (using the intel gpu for example) instead? Atm there is an option in catalyst to switch cards, but as I know there isn't such thing in the open-source driver
[15:08] <jushur> boriseto: you have used the amdgpu driver? or are you talking about "radeon" driver?
[15:09] <boriseto> jushur, I guess it's the radeon driver, since I'm still on 14.04
[15:09] <SgrA> Hi, is there a channel for the Android port?
[15:09] <SgrA> the Android devices* port
[15:10] <BluesKaj> boriseto, do you ahave url containing that fglrx deprecate info
[15:10] <jushur> !touch | SgrA
[15:10] <nicomachus> !alis | also this
[15:10] <boriseto> BluesKaj, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-Dropping-fglrx
[15:10] <SgrA> Thanks
[15:11] <BluesKaj> boriseto, thanks
[15:11] <nicomachus> BluesKaj: here it is in the release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[15:12] <smoker05> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15341595/
[15:13] <comic_sans> which dist should i use for EeePC 1005ha? Any suggestions?? TIA
[15:13] <boriseto> nicomachus, thanks.
[15:14] <BluesKaj> nicomachus, ok thanks
[15:17] <BluesKaj> comic_sans,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/396780/ubuntu-on-an-eeepc-1005ha-netbook
[15:22] <comic_sans> BluesKaj, thank you. Didn't found that page in the past... mea culpa.
[15:23] <misericordia> .xchat2/budus.so
[15:23] <BluesKaj> comic_sans, hope it helps
[15:24] <dreamcat4> hi. i'm trying to setup a different default route on startup, wily 15.10
[15:24] <dreamcat4> for a network bridge --> eth0
[15:25] <dreamcat4> after systemd was introduced, is 15.10 sitll using the same /etc/network/interfaces file as before ?
[15:25] <catphish> i have a message in my MOTD "/dev/md1 will be checked for errors at next reboot" - how is this determination made? i just fsck'd the disk and re-ran "/usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-fsck-at-reboot" and it still says it will be checked
[15:25] <dreamcat4> because i put things in there and it doesnt seem to have any effect
[15:26] <boriseto> Anyone knows how to enable GPU Accelerated Windows (Hardware acceleration) on Firefox for IntelHD 5500 on 14.04?
[15:27] <vooze> borbosha: you should really be able to do that from googling.
[15:28] <vooze> dreamcat4: i'm 99% sure it does yes.
[15:28] <catphish> oh, running "run-parts /etc/update-motd.d/" got rid of it :)
[15:29] <dreamcat4> thanks vooze
[15:29] <dreamcat4> vooze: so whats the cmd to restart networking now? still same as before?
[15:30] <dreamcat4> vooze: is it /etc/init.d/networking restart  ?
[15:30] <vooze> dreamcat4: i'm not sure the "new" command, but sudo service networking still seems to work.
[15:34] <akik> dreamcat4: for network-manager, nmcli
[15:36] <akik> dreamcat4: "nmcli nm enable false" shuts down the interfaces
[15:37] <saul> lol
[15:38] <Delvien> after updating initramfs, my resolution was forced to something very low. There is no "nomodeset" in my grub config for the current kernel, anyone have an idea how to fix this?
[15:38] <dreamcat4> thanks guys. 'service networking restart' worked for me
[15:41] <gregf_> hi, is there a way to figure out what is eating disk space
[15:41] <Delvien> gregf_, baobab
[15:41] <gregf_> i free up 2 gigs and its gone in 5 seconds
[15:41] <gregf_> Delvien: baobab?
[15:42] <Delvien> gregf_, its an application, run it via alt f2 or terminal, if no command found, sudo apt-get install baobab
[15:42] <XFIRE> anyone know any chatroom for mataslpoit
[15:42] <Delvien> gotta reboot now, gl gregf_
[15:42] <gregf_> Delvien: sure, let me install it then
[15:44] <gregf_> oh, ive already seen that and use it unknowingly :|
[15:44] <gregf_> *used
[15:46] <XFIRE> what chatroom offers metasploit for learning purposes
[15:48] <ikonia> XFIRE: not this one
[15:48] <boris2015> certainly not ubuntu lol
[15:52] <theorized> hello, how can I change server on *speedtest-cli*? tnx
[15:55] <nicomachus> theorized: check with the creator on git.
[15:56] <nicomachus> https://github.com/sivel/speedtest-cli
[15:56] <theorized> nicomachus, thanks
[15:59] <varaindemian> is ubuntu trying to simlify the building process from source code? Is it trying to make something like "ports"/ABS-arch?
[16:00] <bazhang> !snappy | varaindemian perhaps this
[16:04] <nils_> Is the serial number for a disk drive accessible anywhere in sysfs?
[16:04] <gvpm> hey you all
[16:07] <Guest61542> hello everyone
[16:09] <Guest61542> how do you change your user with nickserv? I identified but it didn't take on this channel
[16:09] <nicomachus> Guest61542: ask the folks at #freenode
[16:09] <nicomachus> but it's '/nick newnick'
[16:10] <Guest61542>  
[16:10] <nicomachus> nils_: 'sudo lshw' will provide it.
[16:10] <k1l> smoker05: see the first "featured answer" under this article: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/fix-failed-to-fetch-google-chrome-apt-error-ubuntu
[16:10] <nils_> nicomachus, yeah well I could also use udevadm, i'd rather have a file.
[16:11] <nicomachus> nils_: ok... then pipe the output to a file.
[16:11] <nicomachus> k1l: that's only a temporary fix.
[16:11] <k1l> nicomachus: no.
[16:11] <nicomachus> k1l: it will reset at 24 hours or so. There's a script in /opt/ somewhere that has to be changed as well, or it will just overwrite the sources.list entry
[16:12] <mikey1>  
[16:12] <nicomachus> ohh, the "featured comment" does have it. sorry. ignore me.
[16:12] <k1l> nicomachus: that comment got a sed command for opt too
[16:12] <nils_> nicomachus: and it comes with a load of superfluous output, I'd rather not execute a command at all.
[16:13] <nicomachus> nils_: then narrow it with -C disk. so you have ' sudo lshw -C disk '
[16:15] <nils_> nicomachus, naah, I'll have to stick with udevadm. Serial is nowhere to be found in /sys/
[16:15] <vooze> dreamcat4: Did you get it to work? I just remembered it could be cause eth0 changed name. Look at "sudo lshw -class network" and look for Logical name, and replace that with eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces.
[16:16] <nicomachus> nils_: ok then. I provided a solution that works... but you're free to ignore it.
[16:17] <nils_> nicomachus, yeah, I just need this for some documentation so the simpler the better. However, I wonder if lshw will still show that detail for a broken disk
[16:17] <nicomachus> nils_: as long as it can detect the hardware, I imagine it would show it.
[16:18] <nils_> nicomachus, yeah I noticed that in case of a broken Samsung SSD smartctl will not work for example.
[16:19] <mikeymop> can anyone answer an fstab question for me?
[16:20] <mikeymop> I want to know if I can set the drive using UUID, but have a label on the same drive
[16:20] <chotaz`w> Where can I know why China has it own ubuntu spin off?
[16:20] <mikeymop> for example, i have a drive in /mnt/WDG set using the uuid, however I want the drive labelled as 'data'
[16:20] <chotaz`w> Not a spin off, but a specific flavour, rather.
[16:20] <smoker05> k1l, is that because of chrome ?
[16:20] <smoker05> and I can't see any answer
[16:21] <k1l> smoker05: yes. google kicked the 32bit packaes of chrome
[16:21] <nicomachus> chotaz`w: http://www.cnet.com/news/china-chooses-ubuntu-as-state-endorsed-operating-system/
[16:21] <smoker05> okay, can you tell me which answer you are referring to?
[16:21] <k1l> smoker05: scroll down
[16:21] <chotaz`w> nicomachus, thanks a lot!
[16:21] <nicomachus> chotaz`w: and here: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntu-kylin
[16:22] <smoker05> k1l, comment written by eMcE?
[16:22] <k1l> smoker05: yes
[16:23] <smoker05> k1l, done. Nothing came up on terminal after putting those command.
[16:24] <nicomachus> that's fine.
[16:24] <nicomachus> update should be successful now, though
[16:25] <k1l> smoker05: sudo apt update
[16:25] <smoker05> yeeeah, I am doing that right now.
[16:34] <chotaz`w> k1l, i'm astounded right now, been using ubuntu for the last 10 years and I just found out about using 'apt' instead of apt-get LOL
[16:34] <hazhar> hello
[16:35] <k1l> chotaz`w: its included since 14.04. it was meant to group the most common apt-get apt-cache etc commands into one command
[16:36] <smoker05> k1l, yeah, its fine now. Not getting any more of that.
[16:39] <smoker05> k1l, sorry to keep bugging you, but any idea, why this error came ? http://i.imgur.com/MRUGthnl.jpg
[16:45] <snowgoggles> smoker05:  you have unmet dependencies run apt-get update from a terminal session to see more detail
[16:45] <smoker05> i just did.
[16:46] <smoker05> snowgoggles, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15342061/
[16:46] <snowgoggles> smoker05: your screenshot is from the gui
[16:46] <k1l> smoker05: did you turn off the steam repo?
[16:46] <snowgoggles> smoker05: your error is from attempting to run steam?
[16:46] <smoker05> how would I do that? I don't know how to do that.
[16:47] <k1l> smoker05: is steam installed on that machine?
[16:47] <smoker05> No, steam is running fine, games are running fine.
[16:47] <smoker05> this error, appeared this morning randomly, out of no where. Prev. day, everything was working fine.
[16:47] <k1l> please show a " grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[16:47] <k1l>   "
[16:49] <smoker05> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15342081/
[16:51] <k1l> smoker05: go to systemsettings, software and updates, on the 2nd or 3rd tab check the steam repo.
[16:53] <smoker05> k1l, http://i.imgur.com/09ViAW0.png
[16:53] <smoker05> there is no Steam repo.
[17:01] <b100s> hi2all
[17:01] <b100s> i have problem with external monitor for my laptop via dock station... but without.. when i just plug it via VGA - all is ok
[17:01] <b100s> what can be diff with dock station?
[17:03] <karrot> how can I get my power button to shutdown nicely?  Right now when I hit my power button it just shuts down quickly in a hard way that force closes programs... I want it to first officially quit those programs and then shutdown
[17:04] <Silenced> I am not able to log in to my laptop and on running it in safe mode it says "UNEXPECTED CONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY"
[17:04] <Silenced> What I must do now ?
[17:04] <mohankumar> #join #openstack-meeting-4
[17:04] <mohankumar>  #join /openstack-meeting-4
[17:05] <mohankumar>  /join #openstack-meeting-4
[17:05] <untonyst> Hi
[17:09] <majiktrixter> Hello everyone
[17:09] <Silenced> Could someone help me fix my issue ?
[17:10] <majiktrixter> What is the issue?
[17:11] <sweeps> ahoi. is it possible to only use fglrx for 3D (certain apps) and use mesa for the rest? mesa performs much better for 2D for me
[17:13] <snowgoggles> smoker05: based on you terminal output you're missing /etc/apt/sources.list.d/steam.list thus not showing the repo in "other software" gui screenshot you provided.  Did a steam update fail recently?
[17:13] <bazhang> !find amdgpu
[17:14] <bazhang> use the amdgpu for all sweeps
[17:14] <paludo> has anyone tried to compile emacs-25 statically?
[17:16] <varaindemian> will be transparent the top bar in the next ubuntu LTS release?
[17:16] <bazhang> !16.04 | varaindemian
[17:16] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that varaindemian
[17:23] <Silenced> Guys how to run fsck manually ?
[17:23] <sweeps> thanks bazhang. there seem to only be libdrm-amdgpu1... packages for trusty, however
[17:24] <Silenced> Someone please help me out
[17:25] <bazhang> sweeps, trusty,sorry I missed that detail
[17:25] <sweeps> I didnt mention it before, sorry bazhang
[17:25] <bazhang> Silenced, help with a compile?
[17:26] <Silenced> Means ?
[17:26] <fgj6> If I install windows after ubuntu, on uefi, do I also have to reinstall grub?
[17:27] <Silenced> bazhang ^
[17:27] <bazhang> !fsck | Silenced
[17:28] <varaindemian> bazhang, so?
[17:28] <karrot> When I shutdown my computer and it's running osx, osx quits all the programs cleanly, but when I shutdown ubuntu, it (seems) to do shutdown -h now.  How can I make the power button quit all the programs and then shutdown the computer?
[17:28] <varaindemian> will it have it transparent or not?
[17:29] <reisio> karrot: you'd need to tell your power manager to tell the DE to log out & shutdown
[17:29] <karrot> reisio, what is DE?
[17:29] <reisio> karrot: desktop environment; all that you see
[17:30] <karrot> reisio, i'll work down this path, thanks
[17:32] <bazhang> varaindemian, the channel to ask that is not this one
[17:32] <pseudonymous> Is there a way to see how long a service has been running ? (with upstart, that is)
[17:32] <bazhang> varaindemian, the channel to ask that in is #ubuntu+1
[17:32] <Ursula> Hi. I just bought a new laptop (that is empty) and it kinda needs a OS on it as soon as possible. Would it be unwise/unsafe to install 16.04 now? Or is it stable for daily use?
[17:32] <bazhang> join the channel #ubuntu+1 varaindemian to ask about the next release
[17:33] <karrot> reisio, logging out first doesn't seem to close the programs cleanly.  Firefox gives me the "well this is embarassing..." screen because it's not really quit... it seems to be shutdown in the same manner as shutdown -h now
[17:33] <pseudonymous> Ursula: colleague of mine used 15.10 about a month before its release for exactly that reason. Did we see a bug or two? Yea, probably. Was it usable on a daily basis ? Yes.
[17:33] <Ursula> pseudonymous: Those two bugs, were they scary?
[17:33] <reisio> karrot: does Mac OS restore all the apps?
[17:34] <pseudonymous> Ursula: he used it as a workpc-install, didn't stop him from working. I'd say it's so insignificant that I forget what things were
[17:34] <mabus> Ursula: if you can afford to reboot the computer if something goes wrong or spend 15 minutes fixing something, nbd
[17:34] <mabus> would not put it in production
[17:35] <karrot> reisio, well yes, if I so desire, but I usually don't
[17:35] <Ursula> pseudonymous: mabus: OK. Got it!
[17:35] <fgj6> and do backups. You don't want a filesystem bug to corrupt your only copy of the data
[17:36] <karrot> reisio, the problem is I use a program called Anki, and when it quits it needs to sync, so if it's open and then I hit the power button to shutdown, it just kills the program and the program doesn't get the chacne to do a quick sync...
[17:36] <reisio> karrot: k, you can probably increase the time allowed waiting for an app to sigterm before it's sigkill'd
[17:38] <gulli> hi
[17:38] <karrot> reisio, i shall look into that, thanks
[17:39] <reisio> karrot: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[17:39] <reisio> gulli: hi
[17:40] <karrot> reisio, 15.10
[17:41] <lerner> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MAC_Address_Spoofing#Method_1:_systemd-networkd << does that also apply to xubuntu?
[17:41] <lerner> its archlinux,,,,
[17:43] <bliblu> hi
[17:44] <bliblu> just testing ubuntu
[17:44] <bliblu> bye
[17:44] <reisio> karrot: what systemd version do you have?
[17:45] <karrot> reisio, I don't know what that is, or how to check for it
[17:45] <krobzaur> Hello all. If I'm adding a new entry in my fstab file for a partition to store my backups, what are the most prudent mount options to set? Am I safe with just the defaults?
[17:45] <karrot> reisio, I basically want ubuntu to ctrl+q all the programs, wait until they are closed, then shutdown -h now
[17:46] <karrot> reisio, if there is some command to ctrl+q all the programs... that'd work for me
[17:46] <reisio> karrot: dpkg -l | grep -i systemd, maybe
[17:46] <karrot> reisio, all running programs I should say
[17:46] <reisio> karrot: yeah you can run like...
[17:46] <reisio> kill -SIGTERM -1 to ask every single process to stop nicely
[17:47] <karrot> reisio, i'm going to try, and see how it goes, thus leaving this channel
[17:47] <reisio> and then kill -SIGKILL -1 after a pause to kill them meanly
[17:47] <reisio> I think it's just a systemd bug, though
[17:47] <reisio> 'shutdown' et al. is supposed to do this already
[17:47] <reisio> was just reading how they fouled it up in systemd, but /supposedly/ have fixed it for a particular version already
[17:48] <karrot> reisio, that shutdown the programs too... harshly
[17:48] <reisio> karrot: would probably be better to programmatically kill -SIGTERM only the specific top level desktop apps you're running
[17:49] <karrot> reisio, I feel like kill -1 is still more... harsh than ctrl+q
[17:49] <reisio> you mean kill -SIGTERM ?
[17:50] <reisio> -1 is just the special value for 'all proceses'
[17:50] <karrot> reisio, ahh sorry
[17:50] <reisio> try kill -SIGTERM $(pgrep -x firefox), for eaxmple
[17:50] <karrot> reisio, SIGTERM is too strong I guess
[17:50] <reisio> example*
[17:50] <reisio> how does it manifest as too strong?
[17:52] <karrot> reisio, I have a program quits in this manner.  I press ctrl-q, it syncs, then it shuts down
[17:52] <karrot> reisio, when I use SIGTERM it just kills it, no sync
[17:52] <reisio> karrot: so anki alone is the problem?
[17:53] <reisio> sounds like it's not coded... right :D
[17:53] <karrot> reisio, I want to do exactly the ctrl+q command.  I think other people experience this with libreoffice.  They kill that with SIGTERM and then they have a unsaved work that can only sometimes be fully recovered.
[17:53] <karrot> reisio, I'm actively googling
[17:53] <karrot> reisio, well, anki, firefox, and chromium
[17:53] <reisio> okay, well
[17:53] <reisio> the way that /should be/ extremely unnecessary, but that would achieve what you want would be...
[17:53] <karrot> reisio, chromium also tells me it wasn't shutdown properly, would I like to restore the previous windows
[17:54] <reisio> I'm sure you can take a list of processes from 'ps', and use 'wmctrl' to focus on each, then 'xdotool' to send CTRL+q to each :p
[17:54] <karrot> reisio, that's something
[17:54] <reisio> and I'm sure you could even tie it into the ordinary init system shutdown routine, if you wanted
[17:55] <karrot> reisio, thank you for giving me something to work with!
[17:55] <karrot> reisio, i'm gonna keep trying
[17:56] <reisio> actually you can probably get the processes directly from wmctrl
[17:56] <reisio> since it's only the processes running in an actual window you are probably concerned with
[17:57] <reisio> and you don't need the pid anyway, just the window id
[17:58] <pindo> Error: W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.localmsp.org/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/main/source/Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[17:58] <pindo> when "apt-get update"
[17:58] <pindo> do you know how to fix this? in ubuntu?
[17:59] <pindo> it said Hash Sum mismatch? what does that mean?
[17:59] <pindo> the link: http://ubuntu.localmsp.org/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/main/source/Sources
[17:59] <pindo> error
[18:01] <smoker05> snowgoggles, there was no steam update recently. Any way to fix this ? or I have to install all over again ?
[18:04] <reisio> is there a memo bot in here?
[18:04] <k1l> reisio: no
[18:05] <reisio> bummer
[18:05] <k1l> freenode used to have one. but better ask in #freenode about it
[18:05] <reisio> oh it still has, but for registered folk only
[18:05]  * reisio headdesks
[18:05] <reisio> /msg memoserv
[18:06] <reisio> ohwell, if anybody sees karrot, he was after something like this: wmctrl -l | perl -pe 's/^.*?'"$HOSTNAME"' //g' | while IFS='' read -r window; do wmctrl -a "$window"; xdotool key ctrl+q; done
[18:06] <mipesom> t
[18:06] <reisio> adios :)
[18:09] <snowgoggles> smoker05: your source repository is missing for steam need to re-add it back
[18:13] <kobi> hi
[18:14] <lerner> do archlinux commands work for xubuntu?
[18:14] <lyze> Hello, would you recommend using amd graphics card drivers even when I do just office work / developing?
[18:15] <bazhang> lerner, which ones
[18:15] <dax> lyze: use the default open-source driver
[18:15] <lerner> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MAC_Address_Spoofing#Method_5:_NetworkManager << would that work in ubuntu?
[18:15] <lyze> dax: ok thanks :)
[18:16] <lerner> bazhang, ^^^^^^^^
[18:16] <bazhang> lerner, which exact command please
[18:17] <lerner> bazhang, please scroll down to "Method 5: NetworkManager" its not a command, sorry, but a script (I  believe)
[18:17] <ioria> !info     macchanger
[18:17] <bazhang> lerner, I would doubt it, why not use the above
[18:24] <EriC^^> whats wrong with the ubuntu us server?
[18:25] <ioria> EriC^^, apparently nothing .... Fetched 4,836 kB in 22s (211 kB/s)
[18:25] <EriC^^> Fetched 32.5 MB in 9min 28s (57.2 kB/s)
[18:25] <ioria> wow
[18:25] <EriC^^> usually it's like 300kb/sec
[18:26] <ioria> yeah
[18:26] <EriC^^> or more
[18:26] <chrisml> anyone know the command to disable a php7 mod?
[18:27] <nacc> chrisml: phpdismod?
[18:28] <chrisml> nacc tried, mod still appears in php -m
[18:31] <floka> hello all
[18:31] <nacc> chrisml: hrm, that should work ... what version of php7.0?
[18:31] <chrisml> nacc PHP 7.0.2-4+deb.sury.org~trusty+1 (cli) ( NTS )
[18:32] <floka> May I ask a general question about bash?
[18:32] <nacc> chrisml: that's not supported here
[18:32] <nacc> chrisml: that's a PPA version
[18:32] <nacc> chrisml: please contact the PPA owner
[18:33] <nacc> chrisml: as instructed on the same PPA, iirc
[18:33] <floka> how to create a bash script that starts a process wait for x seconds , kills it, wait another 30 sec and repeats all over again forever
[18:34] <skinux> What's the difference between a Unity app and a general GTK app?
[18:34] <EriC^^> floka: while true; do /path/to/program & sleep 30; pkill program; done
[18:34] <floka> uniti app requires unity grafical enviroment
[18:34] <nacc> chrisml: also, fwiw, still not supported, but ondrej's PPA is up to 7.0.4-5, you seem quite out of date
[18:35] <floka> EriC^^:  Pkill is not available , shell is ash
[18:35] <chrisml> nacc yeah i need to update my homestead image
[18:35] <EriC^^> floka: killall <program> ?
[18:36] <floka> k I will try
[18:37] <wafflejock> skinux: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16253/what-gui-toolkit-will-ubuntu-unity-use
[18:38] <jesse82> Hello everyone.  I'm using Linux Mint and I'm trying to register community at Linux Mint and it said I need to go to chat to request for an registration code
[18:38] <EriC^^> !linuxmint | jesse82
[18:39] <jesse82> how do I get to irc.spotchat.org?  Lemme look
[18:40] <EriC^^> jesse82: /server irc.spotchat.org
[18:40] <sambagirl> afternoon. 15.04 is no longet supported????
[18:40] <EriC^^> then /join #linuxmint-help
[18:40] <EriC^^> sambagirl: yes
[18:40] <jesse82> well!  Thank you Eric
[18:40] <EriC^^> jesse82: no problem
[18:40] <sambagirl> it's not lts?
[18:40] <EriC^^> sambagirl: no, 14.04 is lts
[18:40] <wafflejock> sambagirl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[18:40] <sambagirl> well that sure sucks
[18:40] <wafflejock> sambagirl: every 2 years
[18:41] <wafflejock> sambagirl: 14.04 then 16.04 will be next
[18:41] <sambagirl> augh
[18:41] <sambagirl> augh
[18:41] <cfedde> just upgrade. almost nothing will break.
[18:41]  * sambagirl laughs
[18:42] <chrisml> nacc do you know another way to disable a module?
[18:42] <chrisml> they aren't in /cli/php.ini :/
[18:42] <nacc> chrisml: no, that's the way it's supposed to work, iirc
[18:42] <nacc> chrisml: that is phpenmod/phpdismod is the way
[18:42] <chrisml> bloody PPas
[18:42] <chrisml> PPAs
[18:44] <wafflejock> yah there is a mods-available folder in /etc/php5 that has the ini files for loading the modules then in the /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d or cli/conf.d it has symbolic links to the config in the mods-available
[18:45] <wafflejock> phpenmod and dismod like the a2enmod and a2dismod or a2ensite etc. all just make or delete symbolic links to put config in place to load those things
[18:49] <smoker05> snowgoggles, how can I add it back ?
[18:49] <smoker05> do I have to re install ?
[18:53] <floka> EriC^^: your command works but I can not stop with ctrl+c the script after has been executed
[18:54] <EriC^^> press it a couple times
[18:54] <EriC^^> you mean the program still runs, or the script?
[18:55] <floka> the script runs
[18:55] <floka> I tried many times to press it
[18:55] <floka> it does not respond
[18:56] <floka> gotta kill it from another terminal
[18:56] <EriC^^> works here
[18:57] <EriC^^> odd
[19:00] <shincodex> How do I turn that this fucking beep off in ubuntu. pcsp
[19:00] <shincodex> pcspeaker is blacklisted
[19:00] <shincodex> I have no audio drivers or device hooked up.
[19:01] <shincodex> I unchecked fucking bell in terminal and it went away for a day but if i backspace in notepad equivlant text editor BEEP
[19:01] <shincodex> fucking beep its somehow transmitted through my remote desktop connection
[19:01] <shincodex> Windows -> Xrdp ubuntu how the hell
[19:01] <bestpain> hiii
[19:01] <k1l> shincodex: please keep the language family friendly
[19:02] <shincodex> its driving me insane Microsoft made it easy
[19:02] <shincodex> answer the question
[19:02] <shincodex> Oh there it goes again.
[19:02] <bekks> Drop the attitude.
[19:02] <shincodex> Code better
[19:02] <compdoc> xrdp doesnt do sound for me. I use x2go
[19:02] <bekks> shincodex: Good luck in getting help, having that attitude.
[19:03] <shincodex> Please
[19:03] <shincodex> Sudo answer the question
[19:03] <bekks> shincodex: *plonk*
[19:03] <compdoc> I doubt anyone here is writing the code
[19:04] <shincodex> or doing anything useful
[19:04] <shincodex> its just another ffmpeg channel
[19:04] <shincodex> thats why bill gates won
[19:04] <compdoc> youre an idiot
[19:04] <shincodex> NOOOO
[19:04] <k1l> compdoc: no need for insults.
[19:06] <fer_> hi everybody!
[19:06] <bestpain> how can i install .deb files from a external usb drive
[19:06] <EriC^^> bestpain: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file
[19:07] <tinyalpha> hello
[19:07] <floka> navigate to the external flash drive and execute them from there
[19:07] <floka> gotta mount the drive first
[19:07] <tinyalpha> what are you guys doing
[19:08] <compdoc> we're looking at you
[19:08] <floka> so I would do sudo fdisk -l to see where my drive is then sudo mount /dev/mydrive /mnt
[19:11] <snowgoggles> smoker05: sorry...i was interupted you can safely run this from terminal and provide the output if any: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/steam.list
[19:12] <floka> EriC^^: what does the ; do at the end of each command
[19:15] <streulma> hello, shim disabled Secure Boot how can I enable again? UEFI says in Bios that Secure Boot is Enabled but when I boot the USB he says Booting in Insecure Mode
[19:16] <rasalghul> Hello folks!
[19:17] <rasalghul> need some help
[19:17] <EriC^^> with what?
[19:17] <streulma> me too
[19:18] <rasalghul> I have problems to set permissions to a backup disk
[19:18] <bekks> rasalghul: Which filesystem are you using?
[19:18] <rasalghul> bekks: ext4
[19:19] <bekks> rasalghul: And which problem are you having?
[19:19] <rasalghul> bekks: ls -ld /mnt/5E71FC5A12F37B8C : drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8192 mar 10 13:14 /mnt/5E71FC5A12F37B8C
[19:20] <rasalghul> automounting disk set permissions only for root
[19:20] <rasalghul> so, I don't delete files on my disk
[19:20] <EriC^^> that looks like a ntfs uuid
[19:20] <EriC^^> rasalghul: ^
[19:21] <EriC^^> can you type df -Th /mnt/5E71FC5A12F37B8C
[19:21] <rasalghul> EriC^^, sorry! that's right
[19:21] <rasalghul> is a ntfs file system
[19:21] <bekks> So it isnt eext4, but ntfs.
[19:22] <rasalghul> I've enter $ sudo chown rasalghul:rasalghul -R /mnt/5E71FC5A12F37B8C/
[19:22] <bekks> rasalghul: Did you mount that ntfs manually?
[19:22] <rasalghul> bekks, yes
[19:22] <bekks> rasalghul: chown will not work, since ntfs doesnt support linux file permissions.
[19:22] <RoadRunner> Is there a way to change the UUID of a mounted filesystem?
[19:23] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: why would you do that?
[19:23] <rasalghul> bekks, no, I have used disk tool for Ubuntu 14.04 for automounting
[19:24] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: long story, don't know if you care to hear it :)
[19:24] <bekks> The UUID of a FS is mostly irrelevant.
[19:24] <bekks> I'd like to hear that story :D
[19:24] <RoadRunner> ok then :)
[19:24] <snowgoggles> RoadRunner: sounds like you cloned a volume and have duplicates...i recon
[19:25] <RoadRunner> snowgoggles: yes, but deliberately so
[19:25] <RoadRunner> Made an image of my xubuntu partition (sda5) and restored it to a new partition (sda7).  Now, grub sees only one part (sda7) and boots from it. I want to have both parts available in grub's multiboot menu. However, prior to running "sudo update-grub" (to have both parts detected) have to change sda7's UUID. But, after running "sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/sda7",
[19:25] <RoadRunner> get "The UUID may only be changed when the filesystem is unmounted."  Is there a way around this, other than changing UUID of the unmounted sda5 (which I would rather keep constant)?
[19:26] <rasalghul> what can I do for have permissions on my user to rwx?
[19:26] <rasalghul> on that disk
[19:26] <genii> RoadRunner: Boot to livecd/liveusb and change it from there
[19:27] <snowgoggles> RoadRunner:  do it offline and unmounted
[19:27] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: boot from the other disk manually in grub, ( pass it root=/dev/sda5 )
[19:27] <EriC^^> or that ^
[19:28] <deadmund> How can I stop ubuntu from opening nautilus when I plug in my android phone?
[19:29] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: how do you pass grub anything manually?
[19:29] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: use the same menu entry, instead of root=UUID=<uuid> put root=/dev/sda5 in the kernel line
[19:29] <snowgoggles> deadmund:  i believe its a preferences setting in nautilus for removble media
[19:29] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: then press ctrl+x
[19:30] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: can hit e to edit the entry while it's selected in grub
[19:30] <wafflejock> not sure if that was mentioned
[19:30] <deadmund> snowgoggles, oh,  apparently I'm using "files" version 3.10.1 not nautilus.  Any suggestions?
[19:30] <EriC^^> yeah ^ thanks wafflejock
[19:30] <deadmund> snowgoggles, Sorry, I didn't realize that before when I asked originally.
[19:31] <snowgoggles> deadmund:  not familiar sorry
[19:31] <RoadRunner> wafflejock: you mean hitting e can edit grub menu items when its running?
[19:31] <deadmund> snowgoggles, mmmm, thanks
[19:31] <snowgoggles> deadmund: check the apps preferences?
[19:31] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: yeah edits are temporary for that boot
[19:31] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: so you select it hit e find the line edit it hit ctrl+x to boot with that new config
[19:32] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: there are on screen prompts but you might miss them with a short timeout on grub
[19:33] <nealshire> are there any dynamic dns clients people would recommend for ubuntu? must be compatible with namecheap
[19:33] <RoadRunner> wafflejock: so editing puts you into grub's config file and what editor do you edit it with at that point?
[19:33] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: honestly not sure it's just a basic text editor like pico or nano
[19:34] <wafflejock> the line you want to change based on what EriC^^ said had to do with the targeted partition but I just caught the tail of the conversation and EriC^^ knows boot stuff better anyhow :)
[19:35] <RoadRunner> wafflejock: how would you edit grub's menu items to have menu names of booting partitions renamed permanently?
[19:37] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: believe you just want to edit /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub to make permanent changes to the grub.cfg that grub2 uses https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:37] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: nice to do it temporarily in the boot menu though so you don't end up in a worse situation since it reverts on next boot
[19:38] <RoadRunner> I mean after I implement the changes, I'll have 2 Ubuntu partitions that I would like to diferentiate between
[19:38] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: aren't you going to change the uuid with tune2fs ?
[19:38] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: yes
[19:39] <EriC^^> oh you mean the naming in the menu entry? it'd be easier to memorize which is which honestly
[19:39] <EriC^^> or you'd have to cancel one and make a custom entry in 40_custom for it with a different name
[19:40] <EriC^^> in /etc/grub.d/40_custom , basically you just copy and paste the entry there and update-grub
[19:41] <EriC^^> ( from /etc/grub/grub.cfg )
[19:41] <EriC^^> */boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:41] <RoadRunner> that doesn't sound too bad, or am I missing something?
[19:42] <EriC^^> well it won't update automatically, so if you get new kernels you'd have to update it manually
[19:43] <RoadRunner> if its just editing the files you mentioned above (mostly by pasting), I think its not too bad
[19:43] <wafflejock> yah seems like updating that on every kernel update might get tedious though
[19:44] <EriC^^> yeah, but every time you update your kernel, you have to edit it and put the new ...hmm
[19:44] <wafflejock> script it I suppose it wouldn't be so bad but not sure if you'd still have to get in there manually or if you could automate it totally
[19:44] <EriC^^> you could put linux /vmlinuz and initrd /initrd.img ( use the symlinks )
[19:44] <EriC^^> those should point to the newest kernel
[19:45] <RoadRunner> how often are kernels updated?
[19:45] <RoadRunner> on average...
[19:46] <EriC^^> once every 1-2weeks maybe?
[19:46] <wafflejock> EriC^^: TIL thanks good to know
[19:46] <k1l> RoadRunner: if there are issues like security issues or bugs. like every 2 weeks.
[19:46] <RoadRunner> then doing it manually every time is silly...
[19:47] <EriC^^> wafflejock: what's TIL ?
[19:47] <RoadRunner> sorry, back in 15 min
[19:47] <wafflejock> oh sorry today I learned... think it's a reddit acronym or something
[19:47] <EriC^^> oh ok :D
[19:51] <ToBeCloud> EriC^^: very useful: urbandictionary.com :)
[19:52] <EriC^^> yup :)
[19:52] <ToBeCloud> (I hate most acronyms because the time saved writing is wasted on the receiving side by looking up the unusual combination of characters)
[19:53] <ToBeCloud> Omfg gtg bbl ppl lol
[19:53] <ToBeCloud> No H8 M8!
[19:55] <CookieM> #include urban.h
[19:56] <ToBeCloud> Warning: liburban is dangerous and should not be used
[19:58] <chump> Hi
[19:58] <wafflejock> hi chump
[19:58] <chump> I have an issue maybe someone can help with.
[19:59] <wafflejock> chump: sure what's the issue try to explain what you're trying to do what you've done and where you're at so we have an idea of what the issue may be (release info helps too lsb_release -a at the terminal)
[20:00] <chump> I have a tower recently built to run linux with amd apu with radeon r7  a8 7600,  plus a large unknown graphics card radeon
[20:00] <chump> I am using ubuntu 15  the latest
[20:01] <chump> and I do not quite know how to install firmware for this
[20:01] <bekks> chump: So you are using 15.10 and need to find out which graphic card you have?
[20:01] <floka> when program is placed in the background does it still running?
[20:01] <bekks> And the card needs a driver, no firmware.
[20:01] <floka> I see on the prompt it says stopped
[20:01] <EriC^^> floka: yeah
[20:01] <chump> well I would guess the mobo would work better
[20:01] <bekks> chump: With what?
[20:01] <EriC^^> floka: how'd you put it into the background?
[20:02] <EriC^^> ctrl+z just suspends it
[20:02] <bobby_> does anyone here have any software repository sites I can include for the Ubuntu Software Center, I accidentally deleted them all...
[20:02] <floka> ctrl+z
[20:02] <chump> but ,  amd site lists firmware for the  a8, for ubuntu 14.04, not fifteen
[20:02] <EriC^^> floka: you need to type bg after that
[20:02] <floka> after I 've pressed ctrl+z?
[20:02] <chump> I guess you are saying not to worry
[20:02] <chump> synaptics lists that ther should be two pieces of properitary software
[20:03] <EriC^^> floka: yeah
[20:03] <floka> ok
[20:03] <garro> Hi! I have a problem with the manual configuring and installing of a piece of software. When I run configure it says "checking for g_signal_emit in -lgtk-x11-2.0... no" and returns a series of warnigs saying I'll  not have a GUI... Thank you for the help!
[20:03] <EriC^^> floka: or you can type <program> &
[20:03] <EriC^^> to background it straight away
[20:03] <floka> ok I will try
[20:03] <bekks> chump: Forget the AMD site, and use the drivers from "Additional drivers".
[20:03] <virgil_io>  /msg nickserv register Xlaq123! virgilio.schievenini.stefanoni@gmail.com
[20:04] <chump> is that additional drivers from the synaptics
[20:04] <virgil_io> woops
[20:05] <virgil_io>  /msg nickserv register ZvRag123! virgilio.schievenini.stefanoni@gmail.com
[20:05] <EriC^^> *facepalm*
[20:05] <wafflejock> garro: looks like you need this maybe http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgtk2.0-dev&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[20:05] <virgil_io> I don't get this.
[20:05] <EriC^^> virgil_io: don't put a space at the start
[20:05]  * gr33nbits facedesk
[20:05] <wafflejock> garro: https://github.com/polachok/gtk-vikb/issues/2
[20:05] <virgil_io> lol
[20:05] <virgil_io> ok.
[20:06] <stormmore> maybe a crazy question of the day... is there an easy to remove all packages that are not required for a basic ssh server?
[20:06] <garro> wafflejock: I got it
[20:06] <wafflejock> garro: you mean you already had it and still have that error?
[20:07] <garro> wafflejock: yes
[20:07] <garro> wafflejock: also set $usegtk to 1
[20:08] <virgil_io> thanks EriC^^
[20:08] <EriC^^> no problem
[20:09] <wafflejock> garro: wonder if maybe the thing you're trying to build needs the i386 version of the package instead of x64 or something, not sure though what're you trying to manually configure and build if I may ask?
[20:10] <garro> wafflejock:Maybe. I'm trying to install i8086emu
[20:14] <Welastevil> hi guis!
[20:14] <wafflejock> garro: yeah not sure can try the apt-get with package:i386 to get the x86 versions and see if that works, could be related seeing as how it's an emulator for 8086 procs but not sure what to check out if that doesn't do it for ya, know you can ldd on a file to see shared libs but not sure with the source where exactly to look
[20:14] <reisio> hai guy
[20:14] <Welastevil> Im trying to install ubunto from an USB... but the thing is: there is no option in the BIOS for USB
[20:15] <bekks> Welastevil: then you cant boot from USB.
[20:15] <Welastevil> there is just floppy, hard drive and optical drivwe
[20:15] <bekks> Welastevil: Those are your installation options then.
[20:15] <Welastevil> I see
[20:15] <reisio> Welastevil: try the boot menu, tap f12/esc/del repeatedly during bootup
[20:16] <Welastevil> if the disk imnage is already in my HD...it is prossible to install from there?
[20:16] <reisio> Welastevil: yeah, technically
[20:16] <garro> wafflejock: I undersand! Thank you anyway.
[20:17] <wafflejock> Welastevil: would go with reisio on this try the boot menu if possible
[20:17] <Welastevil> so how to install it from my HD?
[20:17] <wafflejock> Welastevil: getting to the moon is also possible :) "we do these things not because they are easy but because they are hard"
[20:17] <Welastevil> I tryed the boot menu, and no option for USB
[20:17] <reisio> well, we do them because we think soviet russia will kill us for no particular reason :p
[20:18] <Welastevil> yes! agree waffejock)))
[20:18] <Welastevil> hahahaha
[20:18] <popey> Welastevil: how old is this computer?
[20:18] <wafflejock> hehe
[20:18] <reisio> Welastevil: no CD handy?
[20:18] <Welastevil> Im living in Russia by the way
[20:18] <Welastevil> nope
[20:18] <popey> Welastevil: it sounds like something which probably wouldn't run Ubuntu anyway.
[20:18] <Welastevil>  my CD drive doesnt work
[20:18] <reisio> I hear the women are female
[20:18] <popey> If it's so old it won't boot off USB, it probably isn't powerful enough
[20:19] <Welastevil> yeah... it is
[20:19] <reisio> Welastevil: you can boot from the image already on the disk, but it's not fun
[20:19] <Welastevil> I already have ubuntu installed...I wanted to reinstalll\
[20:19] <Welastevil> there is no way to "rewset" it as in a mac I think/...
[20:19] <ubuntu_nooob> i cant install flash on ubuntu mate 15.10... i have searched all over internet but nothing seems to help... I see it installed but Opera and Firefox keeps ignoring it
[20:20] <ubuntu_nooob> any idea?
[20:20] <bekks> !flash | ubuntu_nooob
[20:20] <Welastevil> In my mac, I can just use the RESET option, and it reinstall itself
[20:20] <gQuigs> does anyone have video chats working in empathy on 16.04?
[20:20] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: btw, ctrl+x saves the changes (in grub) or starts the reboot?
[20:21] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: it boots the menu
[20:21] <ubuntu_nooob> tnx bekks and ubottu
[20:21] <ubuntu_nooob> let me try and i will inform you about the result
[20:21] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: could you explain a little more: "you could put linux /vmlinuz and initrd /initrd.img ( use the symlinks )"
[20:22] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: in the lines that say linux /boot/vmlinuz-3..... you could put linux /vmlinuz instead
[20:22] <Rave1> Welastevil,  plop boot manager can force a boot from USB on a machine that otherwise could not but best to just burn to a DVD and be done with it
[20:23] <Welastevil> Rave1.
[20:23] <Welastevil> how to do it?
[20:23] <NetworkingPro> Hey everyone
[20:23] <Welastevil> how to uise pop boot manager?
[20:23] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: /vmlinuz and /initrd.img are symlinks that point to the kernel in /boot , type ls -l /vmlinuz and it should show what it's symlinked to
[20:23] <Welastevil> how to use I mean
[20:23] <NetworkingPro> I have ubuntu 14.04 - I installed along side Windows 10. I see that my windows 10 partitions are still in tact, but GRUB  doesnt show a boot option for it.
[20:24] <NetworkingPro> Is there an easy way to add it to grub?
[20:24] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: which file are these lines in again?
[20:24] <Rave1> Welastevil,  download the program place image on CD or floppy
[20:24] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:24] <Welastevil> I see
[20:24] <RoadRunner> many thank's :)
[20:24] <Welastevil> I ahve none of  them... floopy or CD drive...so/// forget it
[20:25] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: you're going to need to copy the menu entry to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, sure np
[20:25] <Welastevil> there is a way just to delet all software except the OS?
[20:25] <Welastevil> like "renew" it?
[20:25] <Rave1> Welastevil,  so I have to ask how or who installed Ubuntu on that machine ?
[20:26] <Welastevil> it was installed in 2010. and that time the CD drive used to work)))
[20:26] <Rave1> ok
[20:26] <RoadRunner> now a diff question, is it possible to load some kernel module to utilize extra buttons on multibutton mice?
[20:27] <NetworkingPro> Nevermind... ugh
[20:27] <Jordan_U> Welastevil: GNU/Linux doesn't have any strict separation between what constitutes "software" and what constitutes "the OS". You can completely remove all GUI support from Ubuntu and still have an OS.
[20:27] <wafflejock> Welastevil: personally I use clonezilla for taking snapshots of my machines and then can restore from a bootable USB drive I set that up on to recover, some machines come with a recovery partition pre-installed to restore to the same image used from the factory for setting up the machine
[20:27] <NetworkingPro> appears it just overwrote all our stuff
[20:27] <Rave1> Welastevil,  new optical drive or the scrap pile are your options now... or learn to install from an image on the drive
[20:27] <Pici> /36/36
[20:28] <Jordan_U> Welastevil: Ubuntu does have an option in its installer to re-install while preserving your data in /home/ though.
[20:28] <Welastevil> how to install from image on drive?
[20:28] <wafflejock> Welastevil: you can configure grub on a partition and have it boot to that and can have grub get the iso running I'm pretty sure but it's not trivial
[20:28] <Rave1> Welastevil,  google knows it is a pain havent done that in years
[20:29] <Jordan_U> Welastevil: Don't have any USB drive available?
[20:29] <wafflejock> Welastevil: much easier to either get an external optical drive or some other way to boot off some media on that computer
[20:30] <Rave1> http://www.howtogeek.com/196933/how-to-boot-linux-iso-images-directly-from-your-hard-drive/
[20:31] <Welastevil> I see
[20:31] <Rave1> he says that old machine will not boot from USB so what good is any external USB drives of any kind
[20:31] <Welastevil> my HD is very olf...11 years now
[20:32] <Welastevil> previouslly it was "ok" with its only 80 giga
[20:32] <Welastevil> but now its too slow
[20:33] <faiz> hi
[20:34] <wafflejock> Welastevil: yea if you can throw like $70 USD at it you can get a SSD (~$50) and probably grab an optical drive (~$20) from e-bay or something if there's really no USB boot options and I'm sure you'd just be limited by the CPU and/or RAM at that point
[20:34] <RoadRunner> any advice on how to use "extra" buttons on mice under Ubuntu?
[20:35] <Rave1> and in lots of areas you can spend that 70 dollars and get a better used computer
[20:37] <ubuntu_nooob> hi all
[20:37] <ubuntu_nooob> i need help
[20:37] <ubuntu_nooob> please check this log
[20:38] <ubuntu_nooob> root@it:/home/it/Desktop# wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb --2016-03-10 20:34:51--  https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb Resolving dl.google.com (dl.google.com)... 216.58.201.206, 2a00:1450:4008:803::200e Connecting to dl.google.com (dl.google.com)|216.58.201.206|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 48921974 (47
[20:38] <genii> !pastebin | ubuntu_nooob
[20:38] <ubuntu_nooob> and this
[20:38] <ubuntu_nooob> !pastebin
[20:39] <ubuntu_nooob> root@it:/home/it/Desktop# sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb dpkg: error processing archive google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb (--install):  package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386) Errors were encountered while processing:  google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[20:39] <ubuntu_nooob> where to find i386?
[20:40] <Rave1> ubuntu_nooob,  32 bit chrome is gone
[20:40] <ubuntu_nooob> i know that
[20:40] <wafflejock> ubuntu_nooob: can you just use chromium? https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/FoE6sL-p6oU
[20:40] <ubuntu_nooob> but how to install chrome?
[20:41] <ubuntu_nooob> chrome has embeded flash
[20:41] <Rave1> so why did you even ask where is i386 if you know it is no more
[20:41] <mabus> you can use chromium you just wont be able to use some drm functionality like netflix
[20:41] <ubuntu_nooob> because i cant instal amd64
[20:41] <nicomachus> mabus: you can use netflix with pepperflash
[20:42] <Rave1> ubuntu_nooob,  so use chromium
[20:42] <mabus> oh well gee wish someone told me that last week.
[20:42] <nicomachus> mabus: Google would have, quickly.
[20:42] <mabus> it didnt
[20:42] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:42] <Rave1> mabus I tried to tell you a few days ago
[20:42] <mabus> it gives a lot of outdated fixes, as new changes have rendered previous fixes obsolete
[20:42] <mabus> no you didn't, you told me to install the .deb
[20:42] <mabus> for the 64 bit chrome
[20:43] <Rave1> the .deb  of 64 bit chrome
[20:43] <mabus> yes
[20:43] <mabus> 15:41 < nicomachus> mabus: you can use netflix with pepperflash
[20:43] <Rave1> or chromium
[20:43] <mabus> this is the information thats new to me
[20:45] <jushur> install google-chrome repo, install google-chrome. enable unsafe gpu accel in chrome://flags  , and you have lagfree netflix
[20:48] <jushur> oh and you cant run metflix on i386
[20:48] <jushur> m/n
[20:49] <nicomachus> why are so many of these "True" instead of "Xenial"? https://paste.ubuntu.com/15343509/
[20:51] <wiblash> hey guys, i got a kubuntu boot bug... can anybody help me ? http://imgur.com/a/xsL1L
[20:51] <wiblash> after all i get an black screen with the information i should see the logs or reboot
[20:51] <sruli> a 80gb file disappeared from my home dir, no clue how, problem is, my home dir is ecryptfs and my system is luks, i guess that rules out conventional recovery, is there a way i can try to recover while booted in a live system?
[20:51] <bekks> wiblash: you dont have a boot bug, you have a broken device sdc.
[20:53] <wiblash> bekks okey because if i boot into the recovery and make an dpgk i can boot without problems for one time, how can i fix this perm ?
[20:53] <bekks> wiblash: By replacing the broken device.
[20:54] <bekks> wiblash: No need for a query.
[20:54] <wafflejock> wiblash: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141862/is-this-drive-failure-or-something-else some things about getting more diagnostics on the drive but seems like bekks is on it there
[20:54] <bekks> I/O error on block xyz == device is broken.
[20:55] <wiblash> okey thanks guys !
[21:02] <Bobzone> exit
[21:04] <radioboy> woosah
[21:04] <gr33nbits> question: you guys do anything special when using ssd's on ubuntu?
[21:04] <radioboy> solid state hard drives?  no
[21:04] <Alastor2262> no
[21:05] <phil42> fstrim -v /
[21:05] <phil42> fairly oftem
[21:05] <radioboy> what do you mean different?
[21:05] <bekks> trim is detected and used automatically.
[21:05] <phil42> often
[21:05] <bekks> phil42: In recent versions of Ubuntu :)
[21:05] <gr33nbits> yeh ive a 850 evo and everything is working perfect just wanted to know if there was any tips or tricks
[21:05] <bekks> gr33nbits: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[21:05] <gr33nbits> had 12.04 updated to 14.04
[21:06] <gr33nbits> a while ago
[21:06] <bekks> gr33nbits: So you are using 14.04
[21:06] <phil42> i swap aggressively on an ssd
[21:06] <gr33nbits> bekks, yes
[21:06] <gr33nbits> i changed swapiness to 10
[21:06] <bekks> phil42: Upgrade your RAM ;)
[21:06] <phil42> do-nothing desktop is currently 234M into swap
[21:07] <bekks> phil42: Which isnt really much, and depends on a lots of factors, including vm.swappiness
[21:07] <gr33nbits> it rarely goes to the swap, when i run vm's yeh but as soon i finish i sudo swapoff -a && swapon -a
[21:08] <bekks> gr33nbits: No need to do that.
[21:08] <phil42> why?  every M in swap if free memory
[21:08] <phil42> is free
[21:08] <gr33nbits> bekks, oh okis nice to know
[21:08] <bekks> phil42: www.linuxatemyram.com
[21:09] <gr33nbits> i know that samsun magician is available for linux but they only thing i want to monitor is temp and i can do that with hddtemp, so thanks for the info no need to do nothing just keep on rocking like it is
[21:09] <phil42> free as in beer
[21:09] <bekks> Free as in unused RAM is wasted RAM.
[21:10] <phil42> free as in if it's in ram when it could be in swap it's wasted
[21:11] <bekks> phil42: You got the idea of swap horribly wrong.
[21:11] <nacc> that made no sense to me
[21:11] <gr33nbits> maybe i do too, explain please bekks
[21:11] <nacc> phil42: nearly anthing "could be in swap" ... but things should only reside in swap when "better" things can reside in memory to evict them to swap
[21:12] <bekks> gr33nbits: You always want as much RAM to be used as you have - but you want swap tp be used only if an application could not be started without swapping things out.
[21:12] <gr33nbits> i had the idea that i shouldn't use to much swap on ssd that's why i changed swappiness to 10
[21:12] <gr33nbits> oh then i get it
[21:13] <bekks> gr33nbits: that was the case about a decade ago :) Nowadyas, you dont have to be worried about that.
[21:13] <gr33nbits> bekks,  okis thanks a bunch
[21:14] <gvpm> hey, anybody on?
[21:14] <mabus> i remember reading somewhere that your ssd should die from many other things before it has to worry about finite amount of writes
[21:14] <bekks> mabus: thats correct nowadays.
[21:14] <bekks> gvpm: according to "/names", yes.
[21:15] <karen_> Hi, guys  I'm having troubles updating. I get this message: "couldn't fetch the package cache information list" What should I do?
[21:16] <Rave1> karen_,  first off are you using a current supported version of ubuntu
[21:17] <karen_> This is in linux-lite which receives all commands like ubuntu. Also, when i go to "lite software" it says, "Refer to /var/log/lite-softweare.log for more information.
[21:18] <karen_> I am using the newest upgrade, Linux-lite 2.8.
[21:18] <phil42> karen_ are  you running the 32 bit version of chrome?   that is no longer supported
[21:18] <karen_> no I am using the 64 bit.
[21:18] <phil42> just checking
[21:18] <Rave1> yes that has been a huge issue of late
[21:19] <karen_> It gets stuck somewhere around the "ubuntu translation..."
[21:19] <gvpm> quit
[21:19] <Rave1> well I think lite was based on 1404 lts so it should be ok unless you got repos mixed up
[21:19] <phil42> here's a linux-lite post about it    www.linuxliteos.com/forums/other/2-4-update-issue/
[21:19] <karen_> oh awesome, phil42
[21:21] <Ben64> linux lite isn't supported here, check with their support forum at https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/
[21:21] <karen_> i'll look there. thanks!
[21:40] <ulyzze> DHCP fails and I can't even ping my DHCP server, how can I debug this?
[21:41] <bekks> for pinging it, you need to have a valid IP.
[21:42] <MatroskaText> help
[21:42] <ulyzze> bekks: I'm pining my router in lan
[21:42] <bekks> ulyzze: And you still need to have a valid IP address for being able to ping it.
[21:42] <MatroskaText> i have a mkv file and cant play it because the video player thinks it is a text file
[21:43] <ulyzze> bekks:  i set in /interfaces auto dhcp
[21:43] <ulyzze> how can i get an ip?
[21:43] <bekks> ulyzze: you need to manually configure it, for pinging your dhcp server.
[21:43] <ulyzze> why can't i ping my dhcp server though?
[21:44] <bekks> Because you dont have a valid IP address.
[21:44] <squinty> MatroskaText,  nautilus -> highlight file name -> properties - open with
[21:44] <stormmore> lol what an apt time to look in on channel, just about to “test” my interfaces file
[21:45] <MatroskaText> squinty what?
[21:45] <kburk> ulyzze:  https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[21:46] <MatroskaText> I open a fi
[21:46] <weirddude> daftykins
[21:46] <MatroskaText> I open a MKV file in Totem, error :Can't play a text file without video or visualizations.  Please help...
[21:47] <stormmore> the scariest thing about the interface file is when you either restart networking or reboot and hope to god you don’t have a typo in the file
[21:47] <kburk> ulyzze: use 'ifconfig' to check your interface.  set an ip which is in the same network as your dhcp server and try pinging.
[21:47] <royal_lts> hello guys maybe someone can help me? i`m just installed ubuntu 16.04 and i cannot install grub-customizer
[21:48] <royal_lts> nobody can help me???
[21:48] <nacc> royal_lts: ak in #ubuntu+1, iirc
[21:50] <kburk> ulyzze: you could try getting an ip by running 'sudo dhclient eth0'  (replace eth0 with your interface name)
[21:50] <MatroskaText> ....is anyone here who can help me?
[21:51] <ulyzze> kburk: i get destination host unreachable
[21:51] <MatroskaText> over DM or something?
[21:51] <kburk> ulyzze: ok, try running the dhclient command i provided
[21:52] <ulyzze> kburk: already tried that
[21:52] <ulyzze> dhcp fails
[21:53] <MatroskaText> ...... Any help pls
[21:53] <Rave1> royal_lts,  and that is a beta release should everything work as it should?
[21:53] <kburk> ulyzze: what ip address do you have?  'ifconfig' will show you if you have one.
[21:53] <ulyzze> 192.168.1.23
[21:53] <kburk> and what is the ip address of your dhcp server?
[21:54] <ulyzze> 192.168.1.1
[21:55] <kburk> ok, you cant ping 192.168.1.1?
[21:55] <ulyzze> i get destination host unreachable
[21:55] <kburk> try running the command 'arp 192.168.1.1'
[21:56] <ulyzze> address: 192.168.1.1 HWtyep: ether HWaddress:--- Flags: C  Mask n/a Iface: eth0
[21:57] <kburk> ok, so it didnt see a mac address in the HWaddress field?
[21:57] <ulyzze> it did, i scrubbed it
[21:57] <kburk> ok cool
[21:57] <MatroskaText> now help me plz
[21:58] <kburk> run the command 'route'.  do you see an entry for 192.168.1.0    255.255.255.0
[21:58] <ulyzze> yes
[21:58] <kburk> using interface eth0
[21:58] <kburk> ?
[21:58] <ulyzze> the gatesway is *
[21:59] <ulyzze> wait
[21:59] <Rave1> MatroskaText,   have you tried any other media players ie VLC is a good all round player
[21:59] <ulyzze> default: 192.168.1.0 GW: * Genmask 255.255.255.0
[21:59] <MatroskaText> vlc isnt working
[22:00] <kburk> other computers behind this router are working fine?
[22:00] <ulyzze> yes
[22:00] <ulyzze> how can i see the router "sees" it from its side?
[22:00] <MatroskaText> Totem plays webm and so on ... but totem thinks mkv is a text file ( what the hell)
[22:00] <ulyzze> the LED is on
[22:01] <mau_> Hi
[22:01] <ulyzze> other than that i can't tell it is
[22:01] <mau_> I've been having trouble updating software
[22:01] <mau_> through the terminal
[22:01] <mau_> http://imgur.com/keaC43I
[22:03] <MatroskaText> HERE should be a system like "please pull a number and wait if you are called"
[22:03] <kburk> which port do you have it plugged into on this router?  you would have to login to the routers web interface to check if it sees it.  did you statically assign 192.168.1.23 to your pc or was that assigned by dhcp?
[22:04] <Rave1> MatroskaText,  older posts talk of installing restricted extras
[22:04] <squinty> MatroskaText,  this channel is manned by volunteers not paid staff.  if no answer try in 10 minutes or so
[22:04] <ulyzze> kburk: i statically assigned that
[22:04] <ulyzze> as in the ubuntu guide
[22:04] <Rave1> MatroskaText,   more codecs and such
[22:04] <ulyzze> like this:  sudo ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.100 netmask 255.255.255.0
[22:05] <ulyzze> sudo route add default gw 10.0.0.1 eth0
[22:05] <MatroskaText> EVERY codec installed Rave1
[22:05] <tgm4883> MatroskaText: Maybe there is something wrong with the MKV file?
[22:05] <kburk> ah ok.  that helps.  yep, that's correct.  so these were the commands you used exaclty?   'sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.23' and 'sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1'
[22:06] <kburk> that last command includes eth0 (missed that)
[22:06] <Rave1> MatroskaText,  than all I can say is corupted files , really dont know sorry never seen that before
[22:06] <ulyzze> kburk: yes
[22:06] <tgm4883> kburk: ulyzze have you attempted to get an IP address from the DHCP server?
[22:06] <ulyzze> tgm4883: of course... fails
[22:07] <ulyzze> dhclient eth0
[22:07] <tgm4883> ulyzze: is the DHCP server a server you setup, or a router of some sorts?
[22:07] <kburk> ulyzze: are you sure that the ip 192.168.1.23 is not already in use by another computer connected to that router?
[22:07] <ulyzze> tgm4883: it's a router
[22:07] <tgm4883> ulyzze: can you try a different port on the router?
[22:08] <ulyzze> i'll try another ip
[22:08] <tgm4883> no, not another IP
[22:08] <tgm4883> another physical port
[22:09] <docmur> I have two mail servers, one with 30 GB's of mail and the other with maybe 1GB of mail.  The mail boxes on both servers are the same, so we want to rsync form the source (MX1) to the destination (MX2) Using Rsync, it's easy to send the mail from MX1 to MX2, however we also want the new 1GB of mail to get remove, can rsync do this in go?
[22:09] <tgm4883> also, I'd rather see some configuration in the network file, but I won't step on kburk's toes here
[22:09] <kburk> dhclient should be working, so statically assigning a diff ip may not help.  diff physical port is a pretty good idea.  also, you could try connecting a diff computer to the cable and see if it works.
[22:09] <ulyzze> not working with another ip
[22:09] <ulyzze> tgm4883: i'll try that
[22:09] <bekks> docmur: Yes, rsync -av --delete
[22:10] <kburk> tgm4883: no problem, not stepping on toes.  i do need to step away shortly so please feel free to help.
[22:10] <ulyzze> another pc is working alreayd
[22:10] <ulyzze> looks like i assigned manually the wrong port, router starts from 100
[22:10] <tgm4883> ulyzze: we mean either A) hooking another PC up to the same cable and seeing if it pulls an IP address or B) hooking this pc up to a different port on the router
[22:11] <ulyzze> tgm4883: i'll do that now
[22:11] <bekks> Port 100?
[22:11] <snowgoggles> MatroskaText: what's your codec issue matroska i presume?
[22:11] <kburk> i think he means the ip range of the dhcp server starts at .100 (please correct me if im wrong ulyzze)
[22:11] <ulyzze> ‏‎Start IP Address: 192.168.1.100
[22:11] <tgm4883> ulyzze: personally, I like A since it lets us find out if it's a config issue or an issue from the wire onward
[22:12] <tgm4883> ulyzze: that shouldn't really matter. That's just where it will start giving out IP addresses.
[22:12] <tgm4883> ulyzze: for static addresses, you actually putting it below 100 was correct
[22:13] <kburk> ulyzze: using an ip below .100 (ex: like you did with .23) will work fine.  actually if we are statically assigning ip's then using this is good as we wont use an ip that's already in use.
[22:16] <enki_> Sorry for my brutal intrusion: has some of you backbox 4.4 installed? (... and sorry for my english...)
[22:18] <ulyzze> i did a service networking restart and i can ping the router now
[22:18] <ulyzze> how can i set dhcp to work automatically then? i don't understand what was wrong
[22:18] <tgm4883> ulyzze: what did you change?
[22:19] <ulyzze> tgm4883: i did lots of things... ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.100 netmask 255.255.255.0  and route add default gw 10.0.0.1 eth0 included
[22:19] <tgm4883> ulyzze: what IP address did it get?
[22:19] <ulyzze> a dynamic one
[22:19] <tgm4883> ulyzze: when you did the ifconfig commands. Did you actually use 10.0.0.100 or 10.0.0.1?
[22:21] <ulyzze> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.123 netmask 255.255.255.0
[22:21] <ulyzze> i'll reboot to see that dhcp is working
[22:23] <ulyzze> working!
[22:24] <tgm4883> ulyzze: cool
[22:24] <ulyzze> i don't understand why it didn't work
[22:24] <ulyzze> what did i change?
[22:24] <ulyzze> i don't think i changed anything
[22:24] <stormmore> well my interface file bite me in the ass!
[22:24] <tgm4883> ulyzze: IDK
[22:24] <kburk> right on, glad to hear it's working
[22:25] <ulyzze> kburk, tgm4883: TY
[22:25] <kburk> np :)
[22:25] <ulyzze> I'd rather go through manual config work than use Win10...
[22:26] <tgm4883> yw
[22:27] <stormmore> with some of the more complex network configs with vlans, etc. i am not so sure
[22:35] <dillon> guys, I am trying to play a .mkv video file and "videos" gives me error message: Required plugin could not be found Videos requires to install plugins to play media files of the following type: video/x-unknown decoder  so I downloaded vlc media player (i like it better anyway) and vlc gives me error message "No suitable decoder module: VLC does not support the audio or video format "hevc".  Unfortunately there is no way for you to
[22:35] <dillon> fix this.  However I played the exact same video file on the same machine (before I re-installed ubuntu) and it worked fine.  What am I doing wrong?
[22:37] <wafflejock> dillon: perhaps when you installed before you hit the checkbox to get extra codecs during install and this time you didn't?
[22:38] <wafflejock> dillon: perhaps this post will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/171026/how-to-install-all-existing-media-codecs
[22:38] <dillon> I did, I went to the software center and checked all of the boxes, I even went back into the software center to double check
[22:40] <dillon> wafflejock when I type in the second command on that page with the terminal command I get error message: END PGP  PUBLIC KEY BLOCK
[22:42] <wafflejock> dillon: strange looks like the PGP comes back if I just run Curl on that URL so not missing not sure what exactly that error indicates though
[22:42] <willmore> Is there a good place to find out about the state of gcc as used by Ubuntu for different architectures?  I'm looking at Aarch64 in particular.  It seems that Ubuntu is using the Linaro version of gcc and not mainline gcc.  Is there somewhere I can go to to see what the plans are to move to newer versions?  I'm looking at xenial in this case.
[22:44] <nacc> willmore: i think all gcc are built from teh same source pacakge, no? http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/xenial/gcc-defaults
[22:44] <nacc> willmore: and you might want to take xenial questions to #ubuntu+1
[22:44] <willmore> nacc, thanks for the advice!
[22:44] <wafflejock> dillon: the alternative advice/answers given there don't seem to require adding any extra repositories though so maybe try that first instead
[22:45] <nacc> willmore: ah and sorry, the package i referred to above *may* be the cross compilers
[22:45] <nacc> willmore: not sure
[22:45] <wafflejock> dillon: once you start adding third party PPAs into the mix can have bad times with packages built and tested by different people getting mixed on your system
[22:46] <wafflejock> and no support here at that point really since it's all unknown what might be in those packages or what issues might crop up due to whatever was compiled into the package
[22:46] <Jtackar> Anyone here who can help me...
[22:47] <genii> !details | Jtackar
[22:47] <Jtackar> Ubuntu 14.04.4 isn't able to use apt-get to download updates
[22:48] <bekks> Jtackar: For me, it is.
[22:48] <wafflejock> Jtackar: what do you run what do you see back?
[22:48] <Jtackar> as in, when I ping there's no connection at all, yet I'm running via ethernet
[22:48] <wafflejock> Jtackar: what are you pinging, need specifics as much as possible
[22:48] <k1l> Jtackar: are you using a proxy?
[22:49] <Jtackar> Nope, no proxy. I've tried pinging both www.google.com and google's DNS 8.8.8.8
[22:49] <Jtackar> to no avail
[22:49] <wafflejock> Jtackar: okay so sounds like network issue not apt-get issue
[22:49] <wafflejock> can you ping anything on your LAN from that machine is it totally disconnected from the internet?
[22:49] <kburk> Jtackar: can you ping your router?  do you have an IP?
[22:50] <k1l> Jtackar: can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt update"
[22:50] <stormmore> anyone see any errors in https://bpaste.net/show/5b5c65b1d5b3? been awhile since I did vlans under Ubuntu like this
[22:50] <Jtackar> Ok, btw, when I login to Ubuntu it freezes seconds after login and I can only move the mouse, this happened to me before and it was due to Nvidia drivers, which I then updated via recovery mode in the GRUB root shell
[22:50] <Jtackar> which is what i'm attempting to do now, however this network issue it problematic
[22:51] <Jtackar> How would I find out my IP?
[22:52] <stormmore> Jtackar: /sbin/ifconfig
[22:52] <smoker05> hey guys
[22:52] <Jtackar> Ok, I'll have to restart to do this, so I'll try grab as much info as possible, what else should I do...and how am I going to copy that text?
[22:52] <stormmore> get route too
[22:52] <k1l> Jtackar: wait
[22:53] <smoker05> I just followed this site to install wine, and after putting all that, i cant find wine on my computer. https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[22:53] <k1l> Jtackar: you said "but ethernet works" so why dont you just join here from that 14.04 system?
[22:53] <Jtackar> Because it freezes after loging due to my Nvidia drivers, which I need to update via root shell...however I can't do that because the root shell wont update
[22:54] <Jtackar> it gets stuck at 0% working
[22:54] <Jtackar> and failes to reach extras.ubuntu.com
[22:54] <k1l> Jtackar: that is a total different issue/setup then
[22:55] <Jtackar> I didn't have this problem with 12.04, think it would be a good idea to burn a fresh 12.04, install that and drivers etc, then update to 14?
[22:55] <bekks> Jtackar: Which will give you a 14.04, and the same problems.
[22:56] <Jtackar> If I have the drivers downloaded though my 14.04 shouldn't freeze then?
[22:56] <bekks> Jtackar: Drivers for 12.04 are different from drivers for 14.04
[22:56] <k1l> Jtackar: you loaded the drivers from the nvidia site?
[22:56] <Jtackar> Nope, how would I do that?
[22:56] <stormmore> why can’t you boot to a non gui runlevel where you nvidia drivers don’t matter
[22:56] <Jtackar> brb
[22:57] <k1l> Jtackar: ok. what nvidia card is that?
[22:59] <smoker05> any idea, why I cannot see wine ? https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[22:59] <smoker05> I just followed those commands to install.
[22:59] <k1l> smoker05: where is the issue? was there any output? was there an error?
[22:59] <smoker05> no, error.
[22:59] <smoker05> something 300mb downloaded.
[22:59] <smoker05> but no error.
[23:00] <smoker05> I rebooted my pc, so I can't paste the output.
[23:00] <k1l> and now? you want to start wine? what is the issue?
[23:00] <smoker05> i cant find wine.
[23:00] <smoker05> in search
[23:01] <smoker05> oh wait wait
[23:01] <smoker05> m being dumbl
[23:01] <Jtackar> The nvidia card is a GTX 460
[23:03] <Jtackar> I'm going to restart, try run apt-get from shell and tell you guys the errors I'm getting, thanks
[23:07] <kolbasz> can I install cinnamon DE from the software center or is it better to add the custom PPAs?
[23:07] <kolbasz> whats best
[23:07] <k1l> !info cinnamon kolbasz
[23:07] <k1l> !info cinnamon | kolbasz
[23:10] <kolbasz> how does one install it, apt-get or software center
[23:10] <k1l> kolbasz: apt-get uses the same background magic as software-center.
[23:11] <kolbasz> k1l: but looking online it says to add special PPAs for cinammon, but yet it is in the software center.  is there a difference in the versions?
[23:11] <kolbasz> just want to install the latest
[23:12] <k1l> kolbasz: so that is your answer: you said you want the PPA so use the PPA.
[23:12] <k1l> kolbasz: cinnamon is in the ubuntu repos for 15.10. so you could use that.
[23:13] <kolbasz> yes, thats what I thought, but it seemed to contradict the internet so I thought to ask before proceeding
[23:13] <k1l> kolbasz: just be aware with the PPAs. some make your system an actual mint, since they include a lot more than only cinnamon
[23:13] <kolbasz> thanks!  Ill use what is in the software center
[23:13] <kolbasz> oh really
[23:14] <kolbasz> i dont want that, just the DE
[23:14] <kolbasz> k1l: since I am always curious, what DE do you use?
[23:14] <k1l> unity.
[23:15] <kolbasz> ah.  I just loaded things up, so new to the ubuntu unity game
[23:16] <kolbasz> just know i was using gnome and cinnamon on arch before
[23:16] <Jtackar> Hello my name's Jtackar, you may remember from such films as "The Man Who Forgot to Allow Networking in GRUB"
[23:19] <netameta> how can you serch for file throw terminal ?
[23:20] <stormmore> netameta: depends how you want to search
[23:28] <bluefive> Hey guys.
[23:28] <bluefive> When would I notice 3 MB of processor cache vs 2 MB?
[23:28] <k1l> bluefive: look at the benchmarks
[23:28] <bluefive> k11, Can't benchmark cache because when the cache changes other processorr components change as well.
[23:29] <SkepticalParrot> I'm signed into my ubuntu server... and fsr... I cannot play music. I have cmus opened, but when I play a song, I don't hear anything.
[23:29] <bluefive> k1l: The 5005U processor seems about equal to the 3805U processor in single-thread performance.
[23:29] <SkepticalParrot> Is there something I can do?
[23:29] <bluefive> k1l: But it excels in multi-thread performance and has 1 MB more cache.
[23:29] <bluefive> k1l: I wonder if I would notice these things.
[23:29] <dax> ask ##hardware
[23:29] <k1l> bluefive: thats more a question for ##hardware and yep. benchmarks
[23:30] <dax> also
[23:30] <dax> !crossposting
[23:30] <bluefive> dax: You are the one who told me to come here.
[23:30] <dax> which expands well to "Ubuntu and Debian channels" fwiw
[23:30] <dax> bluefive: nobody told you to come here
[23:30] <bluefive> You said my question was for the support channel.
[23:30] <dax> we said ##hardware, and you posted in here and #debian instead
[23:30] <bluefive> I first asked in offtopic.
[23:30] <OneM_Industries> For a support channel.
[23:31] <OneM_Industries> Go to #hardware.
[23:31] <dax> bluefive: no, I didn't
[23:35] <Pac> vv
[23:35] <klz> salve
[23:48] <SkepticalParrot> Anybody out there?
[23:48] <Anthony-L> sudo rm /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1.2.0
[23:48] <Anthony-L> am i doing something wrong with that?
[23:51] <bluefive> When I installed Ubuntu it offered the option of encryrpting the drive. Which kind of encryption was it using?
[23:54] <bekks> bluefive: it offered you to encryppt your home using ecryptfs
[23:54] <nacc> Anthony-L: ENOCONTEXT ... what are you wanting to know?
[23:54] <nacc> Anthony-L: generally, it's not a good idea to delete system libraries, though
[23:55] <bluefive> bekks: Does that take advantage of AESNI?
[23:57] <bekks> bluefive: If your hardware supports it, and the module is loaded, yes.
[23:58] <bluefive> bekks: Does that mean encryptfs uses AES?
[23:59] <Rush2112> hi guys, this might not be the right place to ask but i don't know where else i'd ask. i want to install Win10 on my laptop that's running Ubuntu. Is there anything special I'd have to do to ensure all traces of Ubuntu are wiped, and all my partitions or whatever are running at maximum capacity?