[00:06] <genii-testing> Reboot
[00:35] <genii-testing> Hockey game
[02:13] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin, you around?
[02:13] <ahoneybun> opps 4am there
[02:13] <ahoneybun> valorie, ?
[02:20] <ahoneybun> sgclark, ?
[02:22] <sgclark> ahoneybun: not really, trying to relax.
[02:23] <ahoneybun> I have a server with 14.04.4 on it and 21gbs of storage 
[02:23] <ahoneybun> any use for tomorrow?
[02:24] <ahoneybun> 1gb of ram but on a ssd with pretty fast speeds
[02:24] <ahoneybun> I install byobu 
[02:24] <ahoneybun> *install
[02:26] <ahoneybun> I'll send info for it later tomorrow
[02:26] <sgclark> I have no idea lol.
[02:26] <sgclark> could maybe create a pbuilder chroot on it for example.
[02:26] <sgclark> dunno. not sure what they have planned.
[03:46] <valorie> here now
[03:46] <valorie> dinner was good!
[06:21] <Mirv> please tell me if you need me to kick some rebuilds of the new KDE packages in proposed or something else.
[06:22] <Mirv> I'm sure my new qtbase and qtmultimedia uploads (fixed ALSA support synced from Debian) will be stuck in proposed because of the KDE reverse-dependencies
[06:32] <valorie> that's lovely, Mirv, hopefully yofel will be along soon
[06:33] <valorie> I looked in the backlog but it's not entirely clear to me what still remains to be done
[06:40] <Mirv> there's a lot of autopkgtest failures that might need additional uploads to fix or disable tests, like at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kross
[06:41] <valorie> Philip and clivejo will read backlog, I'm sure
[06:41]  * valorie is going to bed
[06:41] <Mirv> there are some build failures like https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim-runtime/4:15.12.1-3~ubuntu3 on ppc64el
[06:42] <Mirv> if I remember from the past, a new release is a big, big thing to get it to the release pocket. but indeed if someone goes through things but doesn't have eg MOTU rights, I can a) retry builds, b) retry autopkgtests at request
[06:42] <Mirv> valorie: good night!
[06:45] <valorie> thanks!
[07:13] <soee> good morning
[09:15] <yofel> Mirv: now that you're here, there is something you can help out with: We need the ubuntu/4%15.12.1-0ubuntu2 tag from pkg-kde/applications/libkmahjongg and ubuntu/4%15.12.1-2ubuntu2 from pkg-kde/applications/ktp-kded-module uploaded
[09:15] <yofel> I asked shadeslayer, but he didn't have time yet it seems
[09:17] <yofel> regarding migration, at least libkf5kipi will need special attention. It will need ksnapshot removed from archive and digikam fixed. As I'm not sure if latter is even possible, just force-hinting it might be the better idea for now
[09:26] <Mirv> yofel: uploaded both
[09:26] <yofel> thanks!
[09:26] <Mirv> you're welcome!
[09:54] <soee> Someone is using Chromium ?
[09:55] <mparillo> I have Chromium
[09:59] <soee> mparillo: have you noticed maybe that playing youtube videos always need 2-3 times page reload before it start to play without error ?
[10:02] <mparillo> I have not noticed (because I tend to use Chrome if FF or Rekonq cannot play a video). Got a link for me to try?
[10:04] <soee> mparillo: any link for me has this issue :)
[10:04] <soee> in FF though all works fine
[10:04] <mparillo> This one ran immediately just fine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUFxRDI64cs
[10:05] <mparillo> Version 48.0.2564.116 Ubuntu 16.04 (64-bit)
[10:05] <mparillo> And the autoplay (I hate autoplay) on the subsequent video started right up also.
[10:06] <soee> yup
[10:06] <soee> hmm i  have also uBlock Origin installed and Privacy Badger
[10:07] <soee> but disabling them didn't help
[10:08] <mparillo> I am on Xenial with the ppa-landing checked. I also used staging-plasma to get me to 5.5.5, but it is not checked any more.
 also, I just did a dist-upgrade and now the kubuntu sddm greeter does not come up anymore
[10:09] <yofel> :/
[10:09] <mparillo> I have not installed any plug-ins to Chrome, Chromium, FF, or Rekonq (though I do edit my /etc/hosts file (https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts)
[10:10] <mparillo> No SDDM Greeter! That is a whole lot worse than not playing videos. I do not see an SDDM update available.
[10:11] <mparillo> I see python3-distupgrade, ubuntu-release-upgrader-core, and ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt
[10:11] <yofel> the greeter is tied rather closely to plasma, so it's not that hard to break :/
[10:12] <yofel> I need to update once I'm home and see what still works
[10:12] <mparillo> I can update now. If you do not hear me post success, then assume I failed.
[10:13] <mparillo> Ahh additional changes: libraw15,, libf5kdcraw5, held: libkf5kipi-data, kibkf5kipi30.0.0
[10:16] <soee> yofel, mparillo also on #kubuntu user said:
[10:16] <soee> [10:06] <heeen> I'm on 16.04 and just updated, now the greeter won't come up anymore
[10:16] <soee> [10:07] <heeen> I see a message from a xcb qpa about neither GLX nor EGL being enabled
[10:17] <yofel> yeah, he said the same in #ubuntu+1
[10:21] <mparillo> Hmm, I am back. And sddm greeter worked for me (It still does not have guest login, a major regression from LightDM, but that is a topic for another day). Maybe it is a graphics driver issue?
[10:22] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[10:23] <ovidiu-florin> can someone please explain how the release of libaccounts-glib works?
[10:23] <ovidiu-florin> I see in xenial is going 1.19, but the latest release is 1.21
[10:51] <clivejo> FTBFS oxygen and plasma-workspace
[10:51] <blaze> kmail 5.5.1 (15.12) is garbage
[10:52] <clivejo> blaze did you add misc PPA
[10:52] <blaze> yep
[10:52] <clivejo> and its still not working?
[10:53] <blaze> working but have some issues
[10:55] <blaze> after quit it is still running and consuming 1 cpu core at 100%
[10:56] <clivejo>  I dunno, Kontact is working better than ever for me :/
[10:56] <soee> blaze: can't confirm the CPU usage
[11:23] <mamarley> mparillo: Did the user with the SDDM problem say which graphics card/driver he/she was using?
[11:25] <mamarley> I have had SDDM black screen problems before, but usually it was because I was fooling around with graphics card drivers.
[11:37] <mamarley> I just rebooted two of my three Kubuntu systems (with staging-plasma, staging-apps, and all the updates from the Xenial archive) and SDDM worked fine on both.
[11:45] <mparillo> mamarley: soee reported: <heeen> I see a message from a xcb qpa about neither GLX nor EGL being enabled
[11:47] <mparillo> If you have any insights heeen is still on #kubuntu.
[11:59] <mamarley> mparillo: Oh, sorry, that was soee who reported that; I didn't read the backlog closely enough.  Sorry to bother you.
[12:00] <mamarley> It definitely sounds like some sort of graphics card driver problem.
[12:09] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeah nope, no time till Monday
[12:13] <yofel> shadeslayer: np
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:17] <soee> yofel: Plasma 5.5.4 is in archive already right ?
[12:18] <yofel> right
[12:18] <soee> ok, thanks
[12:23] <BluesKaj> akregator: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5AkonadiCore.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZTIN7Akonadi8Protocol7CommandE, Looks like the PIM package is acting up again.
[12:29] <ahoneybun> yofel, ping
[12:36] <yofel> ahoneybun: hm?
[12:37] <ahoneybun> think you could use a server with a 21gb ssd + 1gb ram?
[12:40] <ahoneybun> yofel, ^
[12:42] <yofel> potentially yes, but not immediately. x86 or arm?
[12:42] <ahoneybun> x86
[12:42] <ahoneybun> for the party I mean
[12:43] <yofel> maybe. I'll come back to you later. At work right now
[12:43] <ahoneybun> ok np
[13:21] <tsdgeos> BluesKaj: most probably http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com.es/2016/03/workaround-for-trouble-with-updating.html?showComment=1457685414797#c3805316958326156165
[13:24] <BluesKaj> tsdgeos, thanks , think I'll use t-bird for rss feeds since I don't use any other PIM apps anyway and it should be more reliable on a dev OS
[13:27] <sgclark> morning
[13:34] <soee> hiho sgclark
[13:42] <BluesKaj> 'Morning sgclark, soee
[14:23] <sgclark> ah. looks like ktp-kded-module was missed.
[14:24] <sgclark> what is kubuntu-active?
[14:24] <yofel> tablet thingy
[14:25] <yofel> missed where? It was uploaded to the archive
[14:25] <sgclark> I am cleaning out misc and it does not have a New Version available
[14:26] <sgclark> also I updated our seed and it is in misc. Not sure if I can upload that to archive or not.
[14:26] <yofel> oh, IIRC that was renamed to ktp-kded-integration-module
[14:26] <sgclark> Oh. I see now
[14:27] <sgclark> what about all these translations?
[14:28] <yofel> oh right, those need to go up still
[14:28] <yofel> do you want to take care of that?
[14:29] <sgclark> um. how? don't think I can?
[14:30] <yofel> there's that bzr repo with the l10n tooling which has a script that you need to run after adding the changelog to generate all the packages
[14:30] <yofel> the doku is on the community wiki
[14:31] <sgclark> I already did that. and they are in ppa. they need to go to archive
[14:32] <yofel> oh, just edit the changelog to archive version, generate new set and upload to archive
[14:32] <yofel> the packageset has kde-l10n* so you shouldn't run into issues there
[14:32] <sgclark> ah ok, sure I can do that
[14:32] <sgclark> and this meta package? can you ake a look to make sure I did it right, when you have time of course.
[14:33] <yofel> what meta package? kubuntu-meta?
[14:33] <sgclark> yes, I put it in staging-misc to test
[14:33] <sgclark> I followed ScottK instuctions
[14:33] <yofel> will do in the evening or over the weekend, I need to review the seeds anyway
[14:33] <sgclark> sure
[14:37] <yofel> yay, kdepim-runtime built fine in the archive
[14:37] <sgclark> woohoo
[14:37] <yofel> and kdepim is in the binary phase \o/
[14:38] <sgclark> yep
[14:38] <sgclark> we might actually pull this off haha
[14:39] <yofel> we're actully almost done, only a couple plasma things left
[14:39] <yofel> oh, okteta needs a symbols update for ppc64el
[14:40] <sgclark> ok
[14:59] <sgclark> okteta uploaded
[14:59] <sgclark> translations running. afk a few.
[15:03] <soee_> uhm, videos previews are  still not supported in Dolphin 15.12 ?
[15:03] <yofel> bah, ubuntuwire doesn't list s390x builds :(
[15:07]  * genii-testing makes more coffee and awaits instructions
[15:11] <sgclark> genii-testing: install staging-misc ppa and the install kubuntu-desktop and tell me if things go boom :)
[15:11]  * sgclark is still afk
[15:12] <soee_> why we have KDE Partition Manager and it uses gtk not qt  ?
[15:13] <sgclark> soee_: all of your recent questins should really be in kde-devel we have no control over these things lol
[15:14] <sgclark> s/questins/questions/
[15:16] <genii> sgclark: Work got busy, but as soon as I can
[15:17] <yofel> soee_: huh?
[15:17] <yofel> how would it use gtk if it's implemented in qt?
[15:20]  * yofel retries okular s390x autopkgtest
[15:20] <yofel> I don't get why a string comparison would fail in a single architecture @_@
[15:22] <yofel> grrrr, pkgkde-symbolshelper can be really annoying sometimes
[15:22] <genii-testing> sgclark: The following packages will be REMOVED:   pam-kwallet4  The following NEW packages will be installed:   gtk2-engines-pixbuf gtk3-engines-breeze kde-spectacle kubuntu-desktop libpam-kwallet4
[15:22] <yofel> that looks about right
[15:22] <yofel> but libpam-kwallet5 is missing IMO
[15:23] <yofel> and why pixbuf o.O?
[15:23] <yofel> maybe inherited.. I don't want to read germinator logs -.-
[15:23] <genii-testing> Finished OK. Reboot?
[15:34] <soee_> yofel: i judge by the look
[15:35] <genii-testing> Nothing exploded. Oddly more updates available 
[15:35] <sgclark> hmm yeah libpam-kwallet5 was added to seed
[15:36] <soee_> yofel: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/11/Screenshot_20160311_163502.png
[15:36] <sgclark> genii-testing: probably new stuff that finally made it to archive. rest of pim should be there soon.
[15:36] <soee_> so this is not breeze theme at all that other qt pass use
[15:36] <genii-testing> New kernel  4.4.0.12.13, linux-libc-dev, openssh-client updates
[15:37] <yofel> how did that happen o.O
[15:38] <genii> I guess regular 16.04 *buntu updates independent of Kubuntu
[15:39] <yofel> sgclark: your xenial upload and tag is not in git?
[15:39] <yofel> of okteta
[15:39] <sgclark> pretty sure our partition manager is really old. It is on a different release cycle
[15:40] <sgclark> yofel: no clue how to do that. I have the changes local, just tell me how
[15:41] <yofel> you checkout the last upload tag, create a branch from that, apply and commit your changes, tag, switch to xenial_archive, merge the temporary branch
[15:41] <soee_> sgclark: it is 1.2.1 and today 2.1 was released by developer
[15:41] <sgclark> thought so.
[15:43] <yofel> ping me when you're done, okteta needs another symbol update
[15:43] <yofel> you need to pass ALL build logs to symbolshelper, otherwise the per-arch calculation doesn't work
[15:43] <sgclark> oh
[15:44] <genii-testing> Reboot required
[15:46] <soee_> digikam is broken atm. due to dependencies to kipi - someone can confirm ?
[15:46] <yofel> yes, patches welcome
[15:48] <sgclark> yofel: fatal: 'ubuntu/4:15.12.1-0ubuntu2' is not a valid tag name.
[15:49] <yofel> use git-tagpkg from k-a
[15:49] <yofel> it has to replace : with %
[15:49] <yofel> and debian wants signed tags. the script does all of that
[15:52] <sgclark> gbp:error: Tag 'ubuntu/4%15.12.1-0ubuntu1' already exists
[15:53] <sgclark> sadly I have to go get my bloodwork done. Can I just patch symbols again and mess with this tagging stuff later?
[15:53] <sgclark> yofel: ^
[15:55] <yofel> sgclark: did you commit your changes first?
[15:55] <yofel> sgclark: preferably not, we would loose a tag :/
[15:56] <sgclark> yofel it will not let me.
[15:56] <sgclark> see above
[15:56] <yofel> I said commit, not tag?
[15:56] <sgclark> oh in the temp branch? yes, did not push though
[15:57] <yofel> gbp ignores uncommitted changes
[15:57] <yofel> yes, please don't push that branch
[15:57] <yofel> hm...
[15:57] <yofel> sgclark: does git status show everything as clean?
[15:58] <sgclark> nothing to commit, working directory clean
[15:58] <yofel> and the ubuntu2 changelog is there?
[15:59] <sgclark> um. no. ugh. let me look what I did.
[16:06] <genii-testing> Whats the settings to decrease the time apt will cache old repository results? APT::Archives::MaxAge/MinAge ?
[16:09] <sgclark> sigh yofel now I got all the sorted and the scripts fail at gbp:error: Error running git tag: gpg: signing failed: secret key not available
[16:10] <yofel> weird, that should really just be running gpg --clearsign I think
[16:10] <sgclark> it is not even using the right email. 
[16:10] <sgclark> where is it pulling that info?
[16:11] <yofel> I thought it would pull it from the changelog
[16:11] <yofel> you could try passing --git-keyid=KEYID
[16:12] <yofel> oops, the script is missing $@ at the end :S
[16:14] <yofel> how did archive uploading work for you until now then.. ubuntu-archive-upload uses the same parameters..
[16:16] <sgclark> oh good grief. my kde creds and ubuntu creds are in conflict. It has always worked fine /shrug
[16:17] <yofel> oh
[16:18] <yofel>            Make a GPG-signed tag, using the default e-mail address’s key.
[16:18] <yofel> I guess it uses the git email for that
[16:18] <sgclark> dunno what to do. passing --git-keyid=my key did nothinh
[16:18] <yofel> sgclark: edit the script
[16:18] <sgclark> ok
[16:18] <yofel> there needs to be a "$@" at the end for the parameter passing to work
[16:18] <sgclark> yeah kde uses an old email. I should probably change that
[16:20] <sgclark> yofel: ok tagging successful
[16:20] <yofel> \o/
[16:21] <yofel> ok, now you can update the symbols again ^^
[16:23] <sgclark> ok so rinse and repeat what I just did for new update I presume?
[16:23] <yofel> yup, just make sure you pass all build logs, even the ones without a diff
[16:23] <sgclark> ok
[16:24] <yofel> hm, we even had a script for that named kubuntu-update-symbols or so
[16:24] <yofel> where was that.....
[16:24] <yofel> nvm, can't remember
[16:24]  * genii makes more coffee
[16:25] <yofel> now that's a good idea
[16:40] <sgclark> yofel: new tags done, merged in xenial_archive and pushed. also uploaded to archive.
[16:40] <yofel> sgclark++
[16:40] <sgclark> uploading translations then I have to go, should be back in time for packaging thing.
[16:40] <yofel> sgclark: did you push the tags?
[16:41] <sgclark> um
[16:41] <yofel> git push --follow-tags
[16:41] <sgclark> do they not go on git push?
[16:41] <sgclark> doh!
[16:41] <yofel> no, not by default
[16:41] <yofel> I think there's a config field for that though
[16:41] <sgclark> tags pushed
[16:42] <yofel> yup, there now. thanks :)
[16:48] <sgclark> I will fix all the other packages I updated when I get back.
[16:48]  * sgclark is off
[16:57] <soee_> loool .. i fixed my autocomplete
[16:57] <soee_> and now i know i broke it myself :D
[16:59] <sgclark> yofel: ok dunno how to do translations. rebuild script did not create orig.tar.xz packages and all of them rejected. But I really am out the door now.
[16:59] <yofel> ok, I'll look at it
[17:01] <genii-testing> The following packages will be upgraded:   libkf5coreaddons-data libkf5coreaddons5 libsmbclient libwbclient0 os-prober python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-twisted-web samba-libs x11-xserver-utils
[17:01] <yofel> sgclark: it did it because you have more than one 15.12.1 changelog. Then debuild defaults to -sd
[17:01] <soee> yup 
[17:01] <yofel> I'll just remove all but one changelog
[17:06] <genii> autoremove required a reboot
[17:44] <valorie> I guess we are going to leave early, so maybe I can get home in time for the party \o/
[17:44] <valorie> see y'all on the other side
[18:20] <sgclark> yofel: ah.. did you run it?
[19:05] <yofel> sgclark: yes
[19:07] <sgclark> k
[19:55] <sick_rimmit> Party Time
[20:00] <clivejo> o/ hi rick
[20:03] <clivejo> I would join the hangouts but Firefox has hung my system
[20:03] <clivejo> brb Ill reboot
[20:03] <sick_rimmit> OK Cool
[20:04]  * DarinMiller wishes he could join the party but is still at work :(
[20:06] <sgclark> yeah a bit early for US west coast :(
[20:06] <sgclark> no beer for me lol
[20:10] <clivejo> there is a limit on the number of people can join a hang out?
[20:12] <sick_rimmit> Ok, we're getting the Mumble..
[20:12] <clivejo> :( sits on the step outside the party, drinking alone
[20:13] <aektzis> I can pop out clivejo to say a hi :>
[20:13] <sgclark> I can go to mumble, not feeling presentable enough for video 
[20:14] <clivejo> its ok
[20:14] <yofel> same actually, I just need the mumble IP again
[20:14] <yofel> not like I have a camera here anyway
[20:14] <clivejo> how does mumble work?
[20:14] <clivejo> can it support more peeps?
[20:14] <yofel> lots more
[20:14] <yofel> but audio-only
[20:14] <aektzis> hahaha
[20:14] <yofel> wth are those guys doing...
[20:15] <clivejo> audio only is good enough for me
[20:15] <clivejo> noone wants to see my ugly mug
[20:15] <sgclark> me either
[20:15] <clivejo> you dont wanna see my mug either?!?
[20:16] <sgclark> no one wants to see mine hahaha
[20:16] <clivejo> LOL only teasing
[20:16] <clivejo> do I need client software for mumble?
[20:16] <sgclark> yeah in apt
[20:17] <sgclark> mumble
[20:17] <clivejo> I might pop up to the shop and get party food
[20:18] <clivejo> installing mumble!
[20:18] <yofel> ok, all builds from the wire ftbfs page are now built
[20:18] <BluesKaj> wid-fe is using up all the bandwidth atm on this crappy dsl line so there's no point 
[20:18] <sgclark> in mumble
[20:18] <BluesKaj> wife even
[20:18] <yofel> so if there's nothing ftbfs outside the packageset we're done with the building part
[20:18] <yofel> on to migration debugging
[20:19] <sgclark> but when I left the hangout it kicked me, is there a way to watch that on youtube?
[20:19] <sgclark> migration debugging?
[20:19] <ahoneybun> mumble server is 45.79.199.31
[20:19] <yofel> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[20:19] <yofel> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt
[20:20] <ahoneybun> clivejo, sgclark and anyone else
[20:20] <yofel> I think we might need to disable the akonadi autopackagetests
[20:20] <clivejo> has anyone ever used Openmeetings for this kinda thing?
[20:24] <aektzis> xD
[20:24] <sick_rimmit> Telegram Kubuntu Family
[20:24] <sick_rimmit> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://telegram.me/joinchat/Bpq8FwCyZ1kDx_bXTJGwqw&sa=D&ust=1457730457753000&usg=AFQjCNFPkCMlNR29yyM02sMf-Gw5Bz1NHQ
[20:25] <sgclark> yofel: those seem like old builds.Very confusing. Any way to sort that beast?
[20:25] <yofel> wtf, chromium crashed o.O
[20:26] <yofel> guess I'll be on mumble
[20:26] <yofel> sgclark: excuses is sorted by time spent in queue
[20:26] <yofel> plasma and frameworks are ~3 days old
[20:27] <yofel> but at least some autopackagetests are still tracked for outdated versions :/
[20:28] <sgclark> akonadi I see passes. why disable>
[20:28] <sgclark> ?
[20:28] <genii-testing> Should this be correct, I have a bunch of lines like this Unpacking kde-l10n-engb (4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1) over (4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2) ...   where the 4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1 is coming from ca.archive.ubuntu.com universe 
[20:28] <yofel> oh er, not akonadi, kdepim
[20:28] <yofel> kdepim throws akonadi errors in the tests
[20:28] <sgclark> genii-testing: yes we uploaded translations
[20:28]  * yofel got confused
[20:29] <sgclark> yofel: ok
[20:29] <sgclark> well I am completely confused, trying to understand this 
[20:29] <yofel> I'm just trying to run the tests locally
[20:29] <sgclark> ok. probably what I should do for the learning experience
[20:29] <yofel> the output is from a tool called britney, the same that does the unstable > testing package moves in debian
[20:29] <sgclark> ok
[20:30] <yofel> it makes sure that no package from -proposed gets into release if it would make another package uninstallable. And it can run other QA as well - like autopackagetests here
[20:30] <sgclark> oh cool
[20:31] <yofel> the installability check is what you see in the output.txt, the numbers are the uninstallable packages count
[20:31] <ahoneybun> hangout is live on the Podcast channel
[20:31] <ahoneybun> http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ChyPPcJSMUw2au2UyIKwQ/live
[20:31] <ahoneybun> link^
[20:31] <aektzis> you are awesome, thanks! :)
[20:32] <ahoneybun> if anyone wants to join the mumble: 45.79.199.31 is the server
[20:32] <ahoneybun> thanks aektzis :)
[20:33] <genii> The other packages which are overwriting the PPA versions are libkf5sonnetcore5, libkf5sonnet5-data, libkf5sonnetui, sonnet-plugins
[20:34] <genii> Ah, spell checking
[20:35] <sgclark> I'm in.
[20:35] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: you can park it on my farm :P
[20:35]  * yofel tries to run an autopkgtest locally for the first time ever
[20:35] <yofel> here goes...
[20:36] <sick_rimmit> Link to the guide we're going to try an follow
[20:36] <rbetzen> helllo, everyone.  Is the party still going?
[20:36] <yofel> we barely started ;)
[20:38] <rbetzen> ok.  are most of us here or on hangouts and mumble?
[20:38] <yofel> hangout was full earlier, but try that first. The rest of us are on mumble
[20:39] <yofel> more on hangout right now
[20:39] <clivejo> you can watch hangouts live - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ChyPPcJSMUw2au2UyIKwQ/live
[20:39] <clivejo> see them on the party bus!
[20:40] <clivejo> rocking the bus!
[20:40] <yofel> I get the feeling that we strayed slightly from the topic :D
[20:40] <yofel> OTOH, the topic was partying, so nvm
[20:40] <sick_rimmit> WoW it's crazy town
[20:40] <rbetzen> Lotss fun!!! :p
[20:41] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: are they all there to package?!?
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> no
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> tehy came to see what's going on
[20:41] <clivejo> awww
[20:42] <clivejo> who is running Windows 10?!?
[20:42] <sgclark> afk
[20:42] <genii> haha W10
[20:42]  * yofel hits qemu
[20:43] <clivejo> ban windows!
[20:43]  * mamarley defenestrates Windows.
[20:46] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: show us how to setup a key etc!
[20:46] <ovidiu-florin> waht key?
[20:46] <clivejo> private key to sign packages etc
[20:46] <clivejo> I need a new one
[20:47] <sgclark> back
[20:47] <rbetzen> never used hangouts.  not even sure if my mic works. :/
[20:47] <yofel> how the hell did I break networking in qemu o.O
[20:48] <aektzis> guys this is the very first time you attempt something like that, correct? :D
[20:49] <ahoneybun> like this party aektzis ?
[20:49] <yofel> yep
[20:50] <aektzis> haha ye i enjoy it :)
[20:50] <ovidiu-florin> aektzis: kind of
[20:50] <aektzis> reminds me of crazy irc parties we did back in 1999 :)
[20:50] <clivejo> how can you tell its their first time?!?
[20:50] <ovidiu-florin> we've done things like this befor, but just in mumble
[20:50] <aektzis> hehe 
[20:50] <aektzis> fantastic
[20:51] <soee> hiho
[20:51] <aektzis> the limit for hangouts is 10 users?
[20:51] <clivejo> aektzis: yes, but you can watch here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ChyPPcJSMUw2au2UyIKwQ/live
[20:52] <aektzis> thanks clivejo I am already in the hangouts! :D
[20:52] <aektzis> hahaha
[20:52] <aektzis> wanna me get the f*** out so you get in? ;)
[20:52] <clivejo> no Im fine
[20:52] <clivejo> but the live feed seems to be different
[20:52] <clivejo> live feed is showing the bus
[20:52] <aektzis> from hangouts? ye it seems so
[20:53] <aektzis> you are right
[20:53] <clivejo> ah thats better
[20:53] <clivejo> so how do I setup LaunchPad
[20:53] <clivejo> teach me!
[20:54] <mamarley> What? You have a bus?
[20:55] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin is on a bus!
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tel_e4AKZrTO-F1Lc8QSDnWR28YMZoCkeQuC9OgdCwk/edit?usp=sharing
[20:55] <clivejo> the party bus
[20:55] <clivejo> I cant see what rick is doing
[20:56] <clivejo> Control and +
[20:57] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: can you make the ext bigger?
[20:57] <mamarley> Cool, I like buses.  I hope some day to buy a used one and convert it to RV.
[20:58] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin ahoneybun can you ask rick to blow up the text bigger
[20:58] <clivejo> control and +
[20:58] <rbetzen> That's much better...
[20:58] <sick_rimmit> Cool
[20:58] <clivejo> thanks :)
[20:59] <yofel> perfectly random
[21:00] <clivejo> LOL
[21:00] <rbetzen> brb. caffeine deprivation..... :(
[21:00] <clivejo> noisy fan!
[21:00] <clivejo> needs oiled
[21:02] <clivejo> can you type the command here as well?
[21:03] <clivejo> I want a 2048 bit key!
[21:03] <sick_rimmit> gpg --gen-key
[21:03] <sick_rimmit> is the command
[21:08] <soee> sick_rimmit: Mattermost - Slack alternative is even better :)
[21:08] <soee> http://www.mattermost.org/
[21:09] <genii> That feed is pretty choppy :(
[21:09] <ronnoc> ^ yes same here
[21:10] <clivejo> +1
[21:11] <yofel> indeed
[21:11] <sgclark> ok my internet is rejecting all these connections. No clue what is happening
[21:11] <aektzim> +1, sounds great
[21:12] <rbetzen> sounds good
[21:12] <ronnoc> Anything that can help facillitate better communication and foster better collaboration gets a +1 from me 
[21:13] <Jobava> can you document how you implement these bots?
[21:13] <sgclark> No clue what is going on, meh. Not in KC anyway /shrug
[21:13] <yofel> ok, I was gone for a minute, what was that about?
[21:13] <genii> Russian (?) guy sounds clear, most everyone else is garbled
[21:14] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: ^
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> Jobava: just bots that wun on a server and relay messages
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: let's take this in the council channel
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> do you agree?
[21:15] <Jobava> ovidiu-florin:  I mean, documenting the nitty gritty for other people to be able to implement them too :)
[21:15] <sgclark> ...
[21:16] <soee> well dont get me wrong but instead of some muted guest on hangout i would like to see and hear Scarlett or Philip
[21:16] <yofel> at least I see ahoneybun on youtube all the time
[21:16] <Glu111> can somebody restore the "kde-config-tablet" package? upstream says, they updated it to kf5, so i guess it should be compatible again?!
[21:17] <clivejo> so I got my key, what do I do now?
[21:18] <sgclark> Glu111: and has someone packaged it?
[21:18] <soee> yofel, sgclark there is 1 free slot i think will you join 
[21:18] <Glu111> sgclark: there is a ppa, but it is outdated
[21:18] <yofel> and the stream just died for me
[21:18] <ahoneybun> yofel, see me on youtube?
[21:18] <sgclark> then it will not get in xenial. I have never even heard of it...
[21:19] <yofel> ah back
[21:19] <ahoneybun> sorry!
[21:19] <yofel> ahoneybun: in the youtube stream, your screen shows permanently in the hangout
[21:19] <clivejo> lacking bad
[21:19] <clivejo> and cant see what rick is doing
[21:19] <ahoneybun> yea I just say that since I was presenting
[21:20] <ahoneybun> *saw
[21:20] <ahoneybun> rick's windows should be back up
[21:20] <yofel> it is
[21:20] <sgclark> well sorry, my internet kicked me and I really don't have a clue what is going on.
[21:20] <ovidiu-florin> Jobava: I don't think there's anything to be documented. the bot has all the documentation needed
[21:20] <ronnoc> is there a mumble server link? the audio is really choppy for me on the live stream.
[21:20] <sgclark> evidentally something with all our channels.
[21:21] <Glu111> it is for wacom graphic tablets. it worked fine in kde4 but i guess it got removed from debian+kubuntu because it was incompatible with kde5
[21:21] <Jobava> the stream went down, btw
[21:21] <Jobava> it's back up
[21:21] <ahoneybun> ronnoc, 45.79.199.31 is the mumble server
[21:22] <ronnoc> danke
[21:22] <sgclark> Glu111: I am sure it is quite useful, but it is not in the main KDE packageset and therefore did not get packaged (we are crazy short packagers) We are past feature freeze + it not even being ported to kf5 packaging.
[21:22] <sgclark> It will not be in xenial release :( maybe we can backport after release. Sorry.
[21:23] <jim_arvan> hahaha
[21:23]  * clivejo falls off the chair laughing
[21:23] <jim_arvan> xD
[21:24] <clivejo> is it still a party bus with one one person?!?
[21:24] <jim_arvan> *2
[21:24] <yofel> no, that's just called getting drunk ;P
[21:25] <rbetzen> the two biggest things I'm lost on are package naming and where to upload compiled packages to.... will have to go pick my daughter up from school in 15 min.  Not sure if we'll get to that part before then...
[21:26] <rbetzen> lost the feed.
[21:27] <jim_arvan> hahahahaha
[21:29] <rbetzen> Anyone still have a feed going?  Youtube not working for me....
[21:29] <sgclark> no
[21:29] <sgclark> I currently hear nothing
[21:29] <sgclark> or see haha
[21:30] <jim_arvan> i suppose the youtube live will be offline?
[21:30] <rbetzen> Is for me atm.
[21:30] <clivejo> rick has overloaded his internet
[21:30] <clivejo> creating a pbuild environment!
[21:30] <rbetzen> I'm assuming pbuilder completely took over... :p
[21:31] <jim_arvan> xD
[21:31] <clivejo> it does tend to do that!
[21:31]  * yofel gives up on fixing qemu and just runs the stuff on another machine :S
[21:32] <clivejo> pbuild + calligra = nice source of heat
[21:32]  * yofel should've just set up a bunch of containers for rick before this...
[21:34] <Jobava> stream is down
[21:35]  * valorie is here, just need to read back (which is awesome for a late-comer to a party!)
[21:35] <jim_arvan> omg hahaha Allelouia! :)
[21:35] <jim_arvan> I have to see that 
[21:36] <rbetzen> hmmm.... containers.   would it be better to dedicate a droplet on a digitalocean account instead of using a personal machine.  that way it wouldn't kill the stream....
[21:36] <jim_arvan> anyone that might be able to revive the youtube live?
[21:37] <rbetzen> gives you a TB of bandwith....
[21:39] <genii> Sorry guys :(
[21:40] <hegemon8> live stream link anyone? i'll gladely get off hangout...
[21:40] <rbetzen> youtube livestream is down.
[21:40] <hegemon8> ...
[21:41] <hegemon8> always something...
[21:41] <rbetzen> hegemon8: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ChyPPcJSMUw2au2UyIKwQ/live
[21:41] <jim_arvan> no
[21:43] <hegemon8> still offline there...
[21:43] <genii> yep
[21:45] <hegemon8> they've said, thar Aaron had to go, and he was streaming to Youtube
[21:48] <clivejo> has anyone here used or setup OpenMeetings?  openmeetings.apache.org       
[21:48] <valorie> good old IRC always works!
[21:49] <sgclark> cool peeps are in mumble ;-)
[21:49] <jim_arvan> :D
[21:49] <ronnoc> clivejo: OM looks good. Does it have a plug-in or some mechanism to upload to Youtube? Or would rendering and uploading be an extra step?
[21:50] <clivejo> ronnoc: that I dont know.  I used it a few times for online meetings, but it was more for teaching
[21:51] <genii> I had some problem with setting my mumble audio levels
[21:53] <ronnoc> clivejo: OK. Maybe I'm mistaken then. Is open meetings being brought up as a Hangouts replacement? Or a GoToMeeting type replacement? 
[21:54] <clivejo> maybe a suggestion if we do this again
[21:54] <clivejo> to support more people at the same time
[21:54] <jim_arvan> It is awesome to see such lovely and active community. Have to go out, have a great time guys and see you again soon! :D
[21:55] <ronnoc> clivejo: well, having Hangouts limit participation to 10 active participants does seem rather counter-community ;)
[21:55] <clivejo> indeed
[21:55] <valorie> agreed
[21:56] <valorie> I would like to watch the livestream even, but.... even that isn't working
[21:56] <yofel> the youtube stream came from aaron, and he's gone now
[21:57] <yofel>   Cannot initiate the connection to 10.0.2.2:3142 (10.0.2.2). - connect (101: Network is unreachable)
[21:57] <yofel> I think qemu is set out to give me a bad day today :(
[22:02] <ronnoc> I did a quick search as to open meetings and youtube but nothing came to light. Uploading to Youtube would be trivail though, as the application can record straight to .flv So I'd be happy to help with that if the decision is to go that direction.
[22:02] <ronnoc> maybe a follow-up convo about the viability of open meetings is in order after today
[22:07] <sick_rimmit> HOA
[22:07] <sick_rimmit> https://plus.google.com/events/cqu9106kr2eucnrqhtsn8fvqj2k
[22:08] <clivejo> ronnoc: I believe there is a demo here - om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings
[22:10] <ronnoc> clivejo: danke I'll have a look
[22:10] <valorie> this has been great
[22:11] <valorie> we should start using mumble more again
[22:11] <valorie> and party more!
[22:11] <clivejo> Im actually signing up for the demo
[22:11] <valorie> love the clinking
[22:11] <valorie> :-)
[22:11] <yofel> demo for what?
[22:12] <yofel> oh, that
[22:12] <sick_rimmit> http://openmeetings.apache.org/
[22:13] <yofel> heyho
[22:13] <mariogrip> Hey
[22:14] <valorie> hi here too, mariogrip
[22:37] <Glu111> is it possible that "libkf5coreaddons-dev" is currently broken in kubuntu-ppa/backports?
[22:38] <Glu111> CMake Error at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5CoreAddons/KF5CoreAddonsConfig.cmake:88 (include):
[22:38] <Glu111> include could not find load file:
[22:38] <Glu111>  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5CoreAddons/KF5CoreAddonsToolingTargets.cmake
[22:40] <yofel> that file is shipped in the package though and exists on my system with 5.18.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1
[22:42] <Glu111> i have the same version, but for some reason that file is missing
[22:43] <yofel> oh
[22:43] <yofel> Glu111: I just realized that I missed a slight difference. Install libkf5coreaddons-bin-dev
[22:45] <Glu111> that worked, thanks :)
[23:02] <yofel> Ok, I cannot get adt-run qemu to work on my setup to safe my life
[23:02] <yofel> I give up
[23:11] <sgclark> yofel: all archive updates I did are not tagged and pushed. Learned something new today! thanks.
[23:11] <sgclark> err are now*
[23:12] <valorie> I think our party is falling apart and turning into a bigbluebutton test
[23:12] <sgclark> yes
[23:13] <yofel> thanks!
[23:27] <rbetzen> I'm back.  Did I miss anything?
[23:28] <valorie> rbetzen: we're testing out bigbluebutton.org in the demo session
[23:29] <valorie> using their server
[23:29] <valorie> working well for me in chromium/html5
[23:30] <valorie> join us!
[23:35] <valorie> <3
[23:48] <yofel> FINALLY
[23:48] <yofel> After 4 hours I managed to get adt-run to do something
[23:48] <yofel> on top of lxc
[23:48] <yofel> containers FTW