[00:06] Reboot [00:35] Hockey game [02:13] ovidiu-florin, you around? [02:13] opps 4am there [02:13] valorie, ? [02:20] sgclark, ? [02:22] ahoneybun: not really, trying to relax. [02:23] I have a server with 14.04.4 on it and 21gbs of storage [02:23] any use for tomorrow? [02:24] 1gb of ram but on a ssd with pretty fast speeds [02:24] I install byobu [02:24] *install [02:26] I'll send info for it later tomorrow [02:26] I have no idea lol. [02:26] could maybe create a pbuilder chroot on it for example. [02:26] dunno. not sure what they have planned. === tom_ is now known as Guest3813 [03:46] here now [03:46] dinner was good! [06:21] please tell me if you need me to kick some rebuilds of the new KDE packages in proposed or something else. [06:22] I'm sure my new qtbase and qtmultimedia uploads (fixed ALSA support synced from Debian) will be stuck in proposed because of the KDE reverse-dependencies [06:32] that's lovely, Mirv, hopefully yofel will be along soon [06:33] I looked in the backlog but it's not entirely clear to me what still remains to be done === dax is now known as daxcat [06:40] there's a lot of autopkgtest failures that might need additional uploads to fix or disable tests, like at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kross [06:41] Philip and clivejo will read backlog, I'm sure [06:41] * valorie is going to bed [06:41] there are some build failures like https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim-runtime/4:15.12.1-3~ubuntu3 on ppc64el [06:42] if I remember from the past, a new release is a big, big thing to get it to the release pocket. but indeed if someone goes through things but doesn't have eg MOTU rights, I can a) retry builds, b) retry autopkgtests at request [06:42] valorie: good night! [06:45] thanks! [07:13] good morning [09:15] Mirv: now that you're here, there is something you can help out with: We need the ubuntu/4%15.12.1-0ubuntu2 tag from pkg-kde/applications/libkmahjongg and ubuntu/4%15.12.1-2ubuntu2 from pkg-kde/applications/ktp-kded-module uploaded [09:15] I asked shadeslayer, but he didn't have time yet it seems [09:17] regarding migration, at least libkf5kipi will need special attention. It will need ksnapshot removed from archive and digikam fixed. As I'm not sure if latter is even possible, just force-hinting it might be the better idea for now [09:26] yofel: uploaded both [09:26] thanks! [09:26] you're welcome! [09:54] Someone is using Chromium ? [09:55] I have Chromium [09:59] mparillo: have you noticed maybe that playing youtube videos always need 2-3 times page reload before it start to play without error ? [10:02] I have not noticed (because I tend to use Chrome if FF or Rekonq cannot play a video). Got a link for me to try? [10:04] mparillo: any link for me has this issue :) [10:04] in FF though all works fine [10:04] This one ran immediately just fine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUFxRDI64cs [10:05] Version 48.0.2564.116 Ubuntu 16.04 (64-bit) [10:05] And the autoplay (I hate autoplay) on the subsequent video started right up also. [10:06] yup [10:06] hmm i have also uBlock Origin installed and Privacy Badger [10:07] but disabling them didn't help [10:08] I am on Xenial with the ppa-landing checked. I also used staging-plasma to get me to 5.5.5, but it is not checked any more. [10:09] also, I just did a dist-upgrade and now the kubuntu sddm greeter does not come up anymore [10:09] :/ [10:09] I have not installed any plug-ins to Chrome, Chromium, FF, or Rekonq (though I do edit my /etc/hosts file (https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts) [10:10] No SDDM Greeter! That is a whole lot worse than not playing videos. I do not see an SDDM update available. [10:11] I see python3-distupgrade, ubuntu-release-upgrader-core, and ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt [10:11] the greeter is tied rather closely to plasma, so it's not that hard to break :/ [10:12] I need to update once I'm home and see what still works [10:12] I can update now. If you do not hear me post success, then assume I failed. [10:13] Ahh additional changes: libraw15,, libf5kdcraw5, held: libkf5kipi-data, kibkf5kipi30.0.0 [10:16] yofel, mparillo also on #kubuntu user said: [10:16] [10:06] I'm on 16.04 and just updated, now the greeter won't come up anymore [10:16] [10:07] I see a message from a xcb qpa about neither GLX nor EGL being enabled [10:17] yeah, he said the same in #ubuntu+1 [10:21] Hmm, I am back. And sddm greeter worked for me (It still does not have guest login, a major regression from LightDM, but that is a topic for another day). Maybe it is a graphics driver issue? [10:22] hello world [10:23] can someone please explain how the release of libaccounts-glib works? [10:23] I see in xenial is going 1.19, but the latest release is 1.21 [10:51] FTBFS oxygen and plasma-workspace [10:51] kmail 5.5.1 (15.12) is garbage [10:52] blaze did you add misc PPA [10:52] yep [10:52] and its still not working? [10:53] working but have some issues [10:55] after quit it is still running and consuming 1 cpu core at 100% [10:56] I dunno, Kontact is working better than ever for me :/ [10:56] blaze: can't confirm the CPU usage [11:23] mparillo: Did the user with the SDDM problem say which graphics card/driver he/she was using? [11:25] I have had SDDM black screen problems before, but usually it was because I was fooling around with graphics card drivers. [11:37] I just rebooted two of my three Kubuntu systems (with staging-plasma, staging-apps, and all the updates from the Xenial archive) and SDDM worked fine on both. [11:45] mamarley: soee reported: I see a message from a xcb qpa about neither GLX nor EGL being enabled [11:47] If you have any insights heeen is still on #kubuntu. [11:59] mparillo: Oh, sorry, that was soee who reported that; I didn't read the backlog closely enough. Sorry to bother you. [12:00] It definitely sounds like some sort of graphics card driver problem. [12:09] yofel: yeah nope, no time till Monday [12:13] shadeslayer: np [12:16] Hey folks [12:17] yofel: Plasma 5.5.4 is in archive already right ? [12:18] right [12:18] ok, thanks [12:23] akregator: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5AkonadiCore.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZTIN7Akonadi8Protocol7CommandE, Looks like the PIM package is acting up again. [12:29] yofel, ping [12:36] ahoneybun: hm? [12:37] think you could use a server with a 21gb ssd + 1gb ram? [12:40] yofel, ^ [12:42] potentially yes, but not immediately. x86 or arm? [12:42] x86 [12:42] for the party I mean [12:43] maybe. I'll come back to you later. At work right now [12:43] ok np [13:21] BluesKaj: most probably http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com.es/2016/03/workaround-for-trouble-with-updating.html?showComment=1457685414797#c3805316958326156165 [13:24] tsdgeos, thanks , think I'll use t-bird for rss feeds since I don't use any other PIM apps anyway and it should be more reliable on a dev OS [13:27] morning [13:34] hiho sgclark [13:42] 'Morning sgclark, soee [14:23] ah. looks like ktp-kded-module was missed. [14:24] what is kubuntu-active? [14:24] tablet thingy [14:25] missed where? It was uploaded to the archive [14:25] I am cleaning out misc and it does not have a New Version available [14:26] also I updated our seed and it is in misc. Not sure if I can upload that to archive or not. [14:26] oh, IIRC that was renamed to ktp-kded-integration-module [14:26] Oh. I see now [14:27] what about all these translations? [14:28] oh right, those need to go up still [14:28] do you want to take care of that? [14:29] um. how? don't think I can? [14:30] there's that bzr repo with the l10n tooling which has a script that you need to run after adding the changelog to generate all the packages [14:30] the doku is on the community wiki [14:31] I already did that. and they are in ppa. they need to go to archive [14:32] oh, just edit the changelog to archive version, generate new set and upload to archive [14:32] the packageset has kde-l10n* so you shouldn't run into issues there [14:32] ah ok, sure I can do that [14:32] and this meta package? can you ake a look to make sure I did it right, when you have time of course. [14:33] what meta package? kubuntu-meta? [14:33] yes, I put it in staging-misc to test [14:33] I followed ScottK instuctions [14:33] will do in the evening or over the weekend, I need to review the seeds anyway [14:33] sure [14:37] yay, kdepim-runtime built fine in the archive [14:37] woohoo [14:37] and kdepim is in the binary phase \o/ [14:38] yep [14:38] we might actually pull this off haha [14:39] we're actully almost done, only a couple plasma things left [14:39] oh, okteta needs a symbols update for ppc64el [14:40] ok === Jobava_ is now known as Jobava [14:59] okteta uploaded [14:59] translations running. afk a few. [15:03] uhm, videos previews are still not supported in Dolphin 15.12 ? [15:03] bah, ubuntuwire doesn't list s390x builds :( [15:07] * genii-testing makes more coffee and awaits instructions [15:11] genii-testing: install staging-misc ppa and the install kubuntu-desktop and tell me if things go boom :) [15:11] * sgclark is still afk [15:12] why we have KDE Partition Manager and it uses gtk not qt ? [15:13] soee_: all of your recent questins should really be in kde-devel we have no control over these things lol [15:14] s/questins/questions/ [15:16] sgclark: Work got busy, but as soon as I can [15:17] soee_: huh? [15:17] how would it use gtk if it's implemented in qt? [15:20] * yofel retries okular s390x autopkgtest [15:20] I don't get why a string comparison would fail in a single architecture @_@ [15:22] grrrr, pkgkde-symbolshelper can be really annoying sometimes [15:22] sgclark: The following packages will be REMOVED: pam-kwallet4 The following NEW packages will be installed: gtk2-engines-pixbuf gtk3-engines-breeze kde-spectacle kubuntu-desktop libpam-kwallet4 [15:22] that looks about right [15:22] but libpam-kwallet5 is missing IMO [15:23] and why pixbuf o.O? [15:23] maybe inherited.. I don't want to read germinator logs -.- [15:23] Finished OK. Reboot? [15:34] yofel: i judge by the look [15:35] Nothing exploded. Oddly more updates available [15:35] hmm yeah libpam-kwallet5 was added to seed [15:36] yofel: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/11/Screenshot_20160311_163502.png [15:36] genii-testing: probably new stuff that finally made it to archive. rest of pim should be there soon. [15:36] so this is not breeze theme at all that other qt pass use [15:36] New kernel 4.4.0.12.13, linux-libc-dev, openssh-client updates [15:37] how did that happen o.O [15:38] I guess regular 16.04 *buntu updates independent of Kubuntu [15:39] sgclark: your xenial upload and tag is not in git? [15:39] of okteta [15:39] pretty sure our partition manager is really old. It is on a different release cycle [15:40] yofel: no clue how to do that. I have the changes local, just tell me how [15:41] you checkout the last upload tag, create a branch from that, apply and commit your changes, tag, switch to xenial_archive, merge the temporary branch [15:41] sgclark: it is 1.2.1 and today 2.1 was released by developer [15:41] thought so. [15:43] ping me when you're done, okteta needs another symbol update [15:43] you need to pass ALL build logs to symbolshelper, otherwise the per-arch calculation doesn't work [15:43] oh [15:44] Reboot required [15:46] digikam is broken atm. due to dependencies to kipi - someone can confirm ? [15:46] yes, patches welcome [15:48] yofel: fatal: 'ubuntu/4:15.12.1-0ubuntu2' is not a valid tag name. [15:49] use git-tagpkg from k-a [15:49] it has to replace : with % [15:49] and debian wants signed tags. the script does all of that [15:52] gbp:error: Tag 'ubuntu/4%15.12.1-0ubuntu1' already exists [15:53] sadly I have to go get my bloodwork done. Can I just patch symbols again and mess with this tagging stuff later? [15:53] yofel: ^ [15:55] sgclark: did you commit your changes first? [15:55] sgclark: preferably not, we would loose a tag :/ [15:56] yofel it will not let me. [15:56] see above [15:56] I said commit, not tag? [15:56] oh in the temp branch? yes, did not push though [15:57] gbp ignores uncommitted changes [15:57] yes, please don't push that branch [15:57] hm... [15:57] sgclark: does git status show everything as clean? [15:58] nothing to commit, working directory clean [15:58] and the ubuntu2 changelog is there? [15:59] um. no. ugh. let me look what I did. [16:06] Whats the settings to decrease the time apt will cache old repository results? APT::Archives::MaxAge/MinAge ? [16:09] sigh yofel now I got all the sorted and the scripts fail at gbp:error: Error running git tag: gpg: signing failed: secret key not available [16:10] weird, that should really just be running gpg --clearsign I think [16:10] it is not even using the right email. [16:10] where is it pulling that info? [16:11] I thought it would pull it from the changelog [16:11] you could try passing --git-keyid=KEYID [16:12] oops, the script is missing $@ at the end :S [16:14] how did archive uploading work for you until now then.. ubuntu-archive-upload uses the same parameters.. [16:16] oh good grief. my kde creds and ubuntu creds are in conflict. It has always worked fine /shrug [16:17] oh [16:18] Make a GPG-signed tag, using the default e-mail address’s key. [16:18] I guess it uses the git email for that [16:18] dunno what to do. passing --git-keyid=my key did nothinh [16:18] sgclark: edit the script [16:18] ok [16:18] there needs to be a "$@" at the end for the parameter passing to work [16:18] yeah kde uses an old email. I should probably change that [16:20] yofel: ok tagging successful [16:20] \o/ [16:21] ok, now you can update the symbols again ^^ [16:23] ok so rinse and repeat what I just did for new update I presume? [16:23] yup, just make sure you pass all build logs, even the ones without a diff [16:23] ok [16:24] hm, we even had a script for that named kubuntu-update-symbols or so [16:24] where was that..... [16:24] nvm, can't remember [16:24] * genii makes more coffee [16:25] now that's a good idea === daxcat is now known as rwd [16:40] yofel: new tags done, merged in xenial_archive and pushed. also uploaded to archive. [16:40] sgclark++ [16:40] uploading translations then I have to go, should be back in time for packaging thing. [16:40] sgclark: did you push the tags? [16:41] um [16:41] git push --follow-tags [16:41] do they not go on git push? [16:41] doh! [16:41] no, not by default [16:41] I think there's a config field for that though [16:41] tags pushed [16:42] yup, there now. thanks :) [16:48] I will fix all the other packages I updated when I get back. [16:48] * sgclark is off [16:57] loool .. i fixed my autocomplete [16:57] and now i know i broke it myself :D [16:59] yofel: ok dunno how to do translations. rebuild script did not create orig.tar.xz packages and all of them rejected. But I really am out the door now. [16:59] ok, I'll look at it [17:01] The following packages will be upgraded: libkf5coreaddons-data libkf5coreaddons5 libsmbclient libwbclient0 os-prober python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-twisted-web samba-libs x11-xserver-utils [17:01] sgclark: it did it because you have more than one 15.12.1 changelog. Then debuild defaults to -sd [17:01] yup [17:01] I'll just remove all but one changelog [17:06] autoremove required a reboot [17:44] I guess we are going to leave early, so maybe I can get home in time for the party \o/ [17:44] see y'all on the other side [18:20] yofel: ah.. did you run it? [19:05] sgclark: yes [19:07] k === rwd is now known as ro [19:55] Party Time [20:00] o/ hi rick [20:03] I would join the hangouts but Firefox has hung my system [20:03] brb Ill reboot [20:03] OK Cool [20:04] * DarinMiller wishes he could join the party but is still at work :( [20:06] yeah a bit early for US west coast :( [20:06] no beer for me lol [20:10] there is a limit on the number of people can join a hang out? [20:12] Ok, we're getting the Mumble.. [20:12] :( sits on the step outside the party, drinking alone [20:13] I can pop out clivejo to say a hi :> [20:13] I can go to mumble, not feeling presentable enough for video [20:14] its ok [20:14] same actually, I just need the mumble IP again [20:14] not like I have a camera here anyway [20:14] how does mumble work? [20:14] can it support more peeps? [20:14] lots more [20:14] but audio-only [20:14] hahaha [20:14] wth are those guys doing... [20:15] audio only is good enough for me [20:15] noone wants to see my ugly mug [20:15] me either [20:15] you dont wanna see my mug either?!? [20:16] no one wants to see mine hahaha [20:16] LOL only teasing [20:16] do I need client software for mumble? [20:16] yeah in apt [20:17] mumble [20:17] I might pop up to the shop and get party food [20:18] installing mumble! [20:18] ok, all builds from the wire ftbfs page are now built [20:18] wid-fe is using up all the bandwidth atm on this crappy dsl line so there's no point [20:18] in mumble [20:18] wife even [20:18] so if there's nothing ftbfs outside the packageset we're done with the building part [20:18] on to migration debugging [20:19] but when I left the hangout it kicked me, is there a way to watch that on youtube? [20:19] migration debugging? [20:19] mumble server is 45.79.199.31 [20:19] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html [20:19] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt [20:20] clivejo, sgclark and anyone else [20:20] I think we might need to disable the akonadi autopackagetests [20:20] has anyone ever used Openmeetings for this kinda thing? [20:24] xD [20:24] Telegram Kubuntu Family [20:24] https://www.google.com/url?q=https://telegram.me/joinchat/Bpq8FwCyZ1kDx_bXTJGwqw&sa=D&ust=1457730457753000&usg=AFQjCNFPkCMlNR29yyM02sMf-Gw5Bz1NHQ [20:25] yofel: those seem like old builds.Very confusing. Any way to sort that beast? [20:25] wtf, chromium crashed o.O [20:26] guess I'll be on mumble [20:26] sgclark: excuses is sorted by time spent in queue [20:26] plasma and frameworks are ~3 days old [20:27] but at least some autopackagetests are still tracked for outdated versions :/ [20:28] akonadi I see passes. why disable> [20:28] ? [20:28] Should this be correct, I have a bunch of lines like this Unpacking kde-l10n-engb (4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1) over (4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2) ... where the 4:15.12.1-0ubuntu1 is coming from ca.archive.ubuntu.com universe [20:28] oh er, not akonadi, kdepim [20:28] kdepim throws akonadi errors in the tests [20:28] genii-testing: yes we uploaded translations [20:28] * yofel got confused [20:29] yofel: ok [20:29] well I am completely confused, trying to understand this [20:29] I'm just trying to run the tests locally [20:29] ok. probably what I should do for the learning experience [20:29] the output is from a tool called britney, the same that does the unstable > testing package moves in debian [20:29] ok [20:30] it makes sure that no package from -proposed gets into release if it would make another package uninstallable. And it can run other QA as well - like autopackagetests here [20:30] oh cool [20:31] the installability check is what you see in the output.txt, the numbers are the uninstallable packages count [20:31] hangout is live on the Podcast channel [20:31] http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ChyPPcJSMUw2au2UyIKwQ/live [20:31] link^ [20:31] you are awesome, thanks! :) [20:32] if anyone wants to join the mumble: 45.79.199.31 is the server [20:32] thanks aektzis :) [20:33] The other packages which are overwriting the PPA versions are libkf5sonnetcore5, libkf5sonnet5-data, libkf5sonnetui, sonnet-plugins [20:34] Ah, spell checking [20:35] I'm in. [20:35] ovidiu-florin: you can park it on my farm :P [20:35] * yofel tries to run an autopkgtest locally for the first time ever [20:35] here goes... [20:36] Link to the guide we're going to try an follow [20:36] helllo, everyone. Is the party still going? [20:36] we barely started ;) [20:38] ok. are most of us here or on hangouts and mumble? [20:38] hangout was full earlier, but try that first. The rest of us are on mumble [20:39] more on hangout right now [20:39] you can watch hangouts live - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ChyPPcJSMUw2au2UyIKwQ/live [20:39] see them on the party bus! [20:40] rocking the bus! [20:40] I get the feeling that we strayed slightly from the topic :D [20:40] OTOH, the topic was partying, so nvm [20:40] WoW it's crazy town [20:40] Lotss fun!!! :p [20:41] ovidiu-florin: are they all there to package?!? [20:41] no [20:41] tehy came to see what's going on [20:41] awww [20:42] who is running Windows 10?!? [20:42] afk [20:42] haha W10 [20:42] * yofel hits qemu [20:43] ban windows! [20:43] * mamarley defenestrates Windows. [20:46] ovidiu-florin: show us how to setup a key etc! [20:46] waht key? [20:46] private key to sign packages etc [20:46] I need a new one [20:47] back [20:47] never used hangouts. not even sure if my mic works. :/ [20:47] how the hell did I break networking in qemu o.O [20:48] guys this is the very first time you attempt something like that, correct? :D [20:49] like this party aektzis ? [20:49] yep [20:50] haha ye i enjoy it :) [20:50] aektzis: kind of [20:50] reminds me of crazy irc parties we did back in 1999 :) [20:50] how can you tell its their first time?!? [20:50] we've done things like this befor, but just in mumble [20:50] hehe [20:50] fantastic [20:51] hiho [20:51] the limit for hangouts is 10 users? [20:51] aektzis: yes, but you can watch here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ChyPPcJSMUw2au2UyIKwQ/live [20:52] thanks clivejo I am already in the hangouts! :D [20:52] hahaha [20:52] wanna me get the f*** out so you get in? ;) [20:52] no Im fine [20:52] but the live feed seems to be different [20:52] live feed is showing the bus [20:52] from hangouts? ye it seems so [20:53] you are right [20:53] ah thats better [20:53] so how do I setup LaunchPad [20:53] teach me! === aektzis is now known as aektzim [20:54] What? You have a bus? [20:55] ovidiu-florin is on a bus! [20:55] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tel_e4AKZrTO-F1Lc8QSDnWR28YMZoCkeQuC9OgdCwk/edit?usp=sharing [20:55] the party bus [20:55] I cant see what rick is doing [20:56] Control and + [20:57] sick_rimmit: can you make the ext bigger? [20:57] Cool, I like buses. I hope some day to buy a used one and convert it to RV. [20:58] ovidiu-florin ahoneybun can you ask rick to blow up the text bigger [20:58] control and + === ro is now known as ezri [20:58] That's much better... [20:58] Cool [20:58] thanks :) [20:59]