[00:20] <tnewman> anyone having issues with xenial server after first round of updates?
[00:20] <tnewman> clean install, run updates, reboot, dumps me into initramfs busybox shell
[00:21] <ChibaPet> tnewman: Just did an install a couple hours ago, no such issues here. Sorry.
[00:22] <tnewman> ChibaPet: thanks for the response
[00:22] <tnewman> yeah i'm super baffled
[00:22] <tnewman> even did a reinstall of the lts, updated, rebooted, same hangup
[00:22] <tnewman> i'm running desktop xenial on my workstation and havent had any errors with it at all
[00:22] <tnewman> i'm a bit baffled
[00:22] <ChibaPet> Anything exotic?
[00:23] <ChibaPet> LUKS, RAID, /boot separate and not mounted during update-initramfs?
[00:25] <tnewman> it is on a hardware raid 10
[00:25] <tnewman> 14.04 came back up after first round of updates just now
[00:27] <tnewman>  /boot is not separate
[00:27] <tnewman> no LVM
[00:27] <tnewman> and indeed i did reboot into a live environment (xenial) and run the update-initramfs and grub-update
[00:28] <ChibaPet> I've had issues getting GRUB and initramfs to be happy with ZFS root, but .... hrm
[00:28] <tnewman> checked the UUID's in the different places
[00:28] <tnewman> they all line up
[00:28] <tnewman> fstab matches whats in grub.cfg
[00:28] <ChibaPet> maybe double-check 'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' if you're on legacy BIOS to make sure it's pointing at the right stuff?
[00:28] <tnewman> mmm this is a pretty new server
[00:28] <tnewman> dell 420
[00:28] <ChibaPet> UEFI?
[00:28] <tnewman> uuuuuuuuuuuuung i dont think so?
[00:29] <tnewman> like i said, trusty is putting along just fine
[00:29] <ChibaPet> If you have a /boot/efi it's likely UEFI. If you have grub-pc installed you've probably got legacy BIOS. Hrm.
[00:29] <ChibaPet> It's worth a bug report. Now's the time to catch that stuff.
[00:29] <tnewman> i386-pc   <-leik dis
[00:30] <tnewman> because that is in /boot/grub/
[00:31] <tnewman> so my next what at it was going to upgrade my existing trusty install that i made just now to xenial
[00:31] <tnewman> i'd just switch all the instances of 'trusty' in sources.list to 'xenial' correct?
[00:31] <tnewman> never done a bug report ChibaPet :D
[00:31] <tnewman> but i suppose i could
[00:31] <ChibaPet> ubuntu-bug
[00:32] <ChibaPet> hrm, I think the bot has something...
[00:32] <ChibaPet> !ubuntu-bug
[00:32] <ChibaPet> !bug
[00:33] <ChibaPet> FWIW, on legacy BIOS I see grub-pc, and on UEFI I see grub-efi-*, in dpkg -l | grep grub
[00:33] <ChibaPet> I only mention this as it'll help indicate where the nonfunctional bits are located.
[00:35] <tnewman> ii  grub                      0.97-27                              GRand Unified Bootloader
[00:35] <tnewman> sorry thats wrong
[00:35] <tnewman> not the right server :D
[00:35] <ChibaPet> heh
[00:36] <ChibaPet> was going to say, that's reaching back in time a bit
[00:45] <ChibaPet> Anyway, I'll be back later - going to go home and muck with my Mac some more. I might cave in and install my traditional desktop environment on it.
[00:45] <ChibaPet> Seems like a lot of compatibility issues and problems with Linux no longer exist on it. (macbook11,1)
[01:02] <tnewman> yeah no dice
[01:02] <tnewman> do-release-upgrade -d borked it
[01:03] <tnewman> same error as if i'd restarted after upgradeing from xenial
[07:43] <Axy> Hey all
[07:43] <Axy> is ubuntu 16.04 afe enough
[07:43] <Axy> should I be downloading it for my macbook
[07:45] <lordievader> Axy: It is still development, personally wouldn't run it on production.
[08:25] <heeen> hi
[08:26] <heeen> since upgrading to 16.04 my clock is different from windows
[08:26] <heeen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1541532
[08:26] <heeen> found this bug - UTC=no is in the backup of rcS
[08:26] <heeen> but not the current one
[09:03] <Ian_Corne> I remember that from long ago
[09:04] <Ian_Corne> Something with my motherbord's clock battery being dead
[09:05] <heeen> no
[09:06] <Ian_Corne> Just telling you what I had :)
[09:12] <heeen> also, I just did a dist-upgrade and now the kubuntu sddm greeter does not come up anymore
[09:25] <heeen> mh wtf
[09:25] <heeen> that error should only appear if qt was configured without glx and egl
[09:25] <heeen> that does not sound right
[09:26] <spm_draget> A current xenial image installed has in /etc/lsb-release 'DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu Xenial Xerus (development branch)"'. Will this go away once the official version is out and I do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' or do I need to specifically tell ubuntu which 'branch' to use and set it to stable or something?
[10:08] <yofel> spm_draget: it will go away once we reach release candidate state
[10:09] <spm_draget> Ah okay. Evaluating Xenial right now… if everything works for me, I guess it is okay for me to just upgrade it to stable and put it into production on april.
[12:06] <popey> mia_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[12:06] <mia_> thanks!
[12:06] <mia_> You're fast
[12:07] <mia_> what does a daily build means
[12:08] <popey> guess :)
[12:08] <popey> we build it every day
[12:08] <popey> because 16.04 isn't out yet, it's under active development
[12:08] <popey> new packages land in the archive almost daily, so we build a new ISO each day
[12:08] <mia_> OH
[12:09] <mia_> so maybe I should stick with a stable release then?
[12:09] <mia_> I'm trying to set up ubuntu as the main os to an old macbook
[12:09] <popey> Right, 15.10 or 14.04 are your best bets
[12:09] <mia_> I^ve tried 14.04 and 15.10 and both are getting stuck in busybox thing
[12:09] <popey> lets go back to #ubuntu if you're using those :)
[12:09] <mia_> ok :)
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:44] <wsdjeg> hi here is an issue about neovim in  ubuntu 16.04
[12:44] <wsdjeg> https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/3969
[12:45] <wsdjeg> https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/3998
[12:46] <k1l_> !bug  | wsdjeg
[12:46] <wsdjeg> I do not know why this key send focuslost,
[12:48] <wsdjeg> sorry,I can not find out which lib case this issue,just know neovim works well in 14.04-15.10 ,but has issue in 16.04,
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> wsdjeg: go for the bug k1l_ suggests
[12:50] <k1l_> wsdjeg: did you install it from the ubuntu repos?
[12:52] <wsdjeg> as the mantain of neovim says, `Thanks for followup. Must be libvte https://github.com/GNOME/vte`
[12:53] <wsdjeg> ubuntu repos has no neovim,I install it from the PPA of neovim team also tried build it from source,encounter the same issue
[13:08] <wsdjeg> doen weechat has android client?
[13:09] <wsdjeg> sorry wrong channal
[13:47] <marcony> hello i have problem with flash player in browser.just installed ubuntu 16.04
[13:47] <marcony> maybe somebody can help?
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> marcony: adobe flash?
[13:47] <marcony> yes
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> marcony: adobe flash for linux is pretty dead mate
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> marcony: install chromium-browser instead + pepperflash
[13:49] <marcony> i tried it but still no changes "please update adobe flash"
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> marcony: you wont be able to use adobe flash anymore properly, and not secure anymore either
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> marcony: so for flash sites= chromium and firefox html5 video's
[13:51] <marcony> yes, i cannot see stream translations
[13:52] <marcony> it is iportant for me.and i cannot enter to bet365 site
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> marcony: did you try with chromium and pepperflash?
[13:53] <marcony> yes i tried it, restart the chromium and no changes
[13:53] <marcony> maybe i need reboot the system?
[13:53] <marcony> but i dont think so
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> marcony: make sure you install pepperflash?
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> !find pepperflash
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> marcony: can also try it with webbrowser-app
[13:55] <marcony> bay you can tel me terminal command for it?
[13:55] <marcony> i used 15.10 version and i have no problem with this
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> marcony: sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[13:56] <marcony> pepperflashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version (1.7ubuntu1).
[13:56] <marcony> The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
[13:56] <marcony>   qtdeclarative5-qtfeedback-plugin
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> marcony: pass me the url you trying plz?
[13:57] <marcony> bet365.com no entry without flash
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[13:59] <marcony> Please Update Adobe FlashOur site requires the latest version
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> ah dang, my country blocks your site, cant check sorry
[14:05] <marcony> https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?no_redirect i think i need to install this
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> dont
[14:05] <marcony> but for 16.04 its no posible
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> marcony: ill try to say this once again, adobe flash for linux is dead
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> marcony: find an alternative please
[14:07] <marcony> i tring but still nothing :)
[14:08] <marcony> i`m installing synaptic maybe i find a way in there
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> marcony: if pepperflash or html5 cant help you, you will need to find other ways
[14:13] <marcony> i tring to install
[14:13] <marcony> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:13] <marcony> but i cannot from terminal
[14:14] <marcony> and in synaptic there is no ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> marcony: the restricted extras also hold adobe flash, wich is dead...
[14:16] <marcony> so nobody have the same problem?? only me??
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> marcony: maybe its a weird website?
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> marcony: normally chromium plays all fine
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> marcony: but if the website uses 'older' flash based material...its not ubuntu's fault right
[14:19] <marcony> the same problem in watching the stream traslations
[14:20] <marcony> http://livetv.sx/en/
[14:21] <marcony> so maybe i`m no corectly install html5, can say me the terminal line
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> marcony: the website is repsponisble for html5 videos, like on youtube, you dont need to install something
[14:23] <marcony> youtube working perfectly...
[14:25] <marcony> i don`t know, its real shit...
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> marcony: contact the website owner, you cant play it with chromium...
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> marcony: if you can play youtubes,webcams,games or other flash content with chromium
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> marcony: must those bet sites, that uses older stuff
[14:37] <BluesKaj> marlinc, try fooglr-chrome instead, chromium isn't keep it's flash plugin upgraded and if you use Firefox install the freshplayer-pepperflash plugin
[14:38] <BluesKaj> oops he left
[14:39] <marlinc> :p
[14:44] <BluesKaj> marlinc, that was meant for marcony , but he left before I hit the enter key :/
[14:44] <marlinc> I saw that, np :)
[14:48] <Ian_Corne> anyone else have german in their calender widget thing on the top right?
[14:50] <Ian_Corne> ah my bad :)
[14:50] <Ian_Corne> I have my regional format set as belgien(deutch) for some reason
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: you can test unity8/mir already now on xenial, unity8 is planned on 16.10
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> !find unity8
[17:09] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, have you personally observed an improvement with the suspend behavior?  On trusty, when I resume from suspend, my desktop shows for a few seconds before the lock screen engages.
[17:09] <ecdhe> I'm not the only one, I was browsing the issue last night, but I believe that's been an issue with X for ages.
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: 16.04 will have unity7 still by default
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: if you still on 14.04 and have issues, please ask them in #ubuntu then
[17:11] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, I'm not looking for handholding, just wondering if it would be worth downloading xenial to resolve my issue.  Sounds like it could be worth going for it and installing unity8
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: right now 16.04 is still in developing phase
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: so unity8 is still in progress
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: it still looks like an early phone version
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: but sure, you can help testing
[17:15] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, I used to read slashdot every day, and I felt like I was aware of plans to pursue wayland, which were scrapped in favor of developing mir.  Then integration with mir was attempted in 13.10 but dropped for 14.04...
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: wayland will come too
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> !wayland
[17:16] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, slashdot is something of a cesspool these days so I don't read it anymore.  Is there a better place for me to keep informed of what Canonical is up to on this topic?
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: there are lots of nice sources where you can follow ubuntu news
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: omgubuntu,softpedia linux,insights ubuntu, lxer
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> ecdhe: but Mir is comming surely
[17:36] <ecdhe> lotuspsychje, thanks.
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> no sweat
[19:47] <ChibaPet> ecdhe: Slashdot via RSS is pretty digestible.
[19:48] <ChibaPet> But that said, Ubuntu has a ton of mailing lists: https://lists.ubuntu.com/
[20:31] <drhalan> hi. i am using PXEboot and NFS to start a cluster of ubuntu machines. Everything works perfectly with 14.04 with 16.04 machines don't seem to configure dns correctly. i guess it is somehow related to system and resolvconf? could you give me any pointers on how to debug this?
[21:53] <jonascj> In Ubuntu 16 should this still work for suspending as non-root: "dbus-send --system --print-reply \ --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" \ /org/freedesktop/UPower \ org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate" ?
[21:54] <jonascj> I get the message "DBUS.Error.UnknownMethod: Hibernate"