[13:45] <pavlushka> Hi every one!!!!
[14:28] <Kilos> o/
[14:29] <pavlushka> Kilos, o/
[14:29] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[14:33] <pavlushka> Kilos, hi!!
[15:31] <pavlushka> toshazed, Hi, got you.
[15:32] <toshazed> hi
[15:32] <Kilos> hi toshazed 
[15:33] <toshazed> hi everyone
[15:35] <belkinsa> Hello there.
[15:35] <belkinsa> So...now what>
[15:36] <pavlushka> belkinsa, o/
[15:36] <toshazed> may I ask all of your name? starting with me -- Shazedur Rahim Joardar Ring
[15:36] <toshazed> you can call me ring
[15:36] <belkinsa> Svetlana Belkin, but I'm not of this LoCo.
[15:37] <Kilos> Miles Sharpe also not of this loco
[15:37] <Kilos> hi ring
[15:37] <belkinsa> Kilos and me are working with pavlushka to get your LoCo active again so pavlushka can get his Membership.
[15:37] <belkinsa> I*, not me.
[15:38] <toshazed> ok belkin and sharpe. but may I help you? or do you have anything to say about our LoCo?
[15:38] <toshazed> ok
[15:39] <belkinsa> My LoCo is well is inactive because we are scattered and I think no one has the mood to try anything.
[15:39] <belkinsa> But Kilos has a different story in his LoCo.
[15:39] <toshazed> since 2010 the community was very active till 2012
[15:39]  * belkinsa turns the mic to Kilos
[15:39] <Kilos> also toshazed we are trying to revive all locos world wide into using irc and launchpad again
[15:40] <belkinsa> toshazed, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/belkinsa that's who I am
[15:40] <toshazed> but suddenly our teamleaders gone abrupt and made some self destructive decission for the community and that went very wrong
[15:40] <toshazed> the community gone to comma
[15:41] <toshazed> as I can say
[15:41] <Kilos> it is very sad to see so many people waiting for approval into the loco and for so long
[15:41] <toshazed> thanks belkinsa
[15:41] <toshazed> I got your identity
[15:41] <belkinsa> toshazed, and what was that choice that killed your LoCo?
[15:41] <toshazed> dictatorship
[15:42] <belkinsa> Oh dear.
[15:42] <belkinsa> By Russel?
[15:42] <belkinsa> As in who took it.
[15:43] <toshazed> community was totally ruled out by Mr. Russel John and his fellows though they are not community people
[15:43] <Kilos> we are here to help toshazed 
[15:43] <Kilos> here is who i am
[15:43] <belkinsa> I figured that was the case because pavlushka's problem of turning to get in the LoCo.
[15:43] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos
[15:43] <belkinsa> trying*
[15:43] <toshazed> you can find me on launchpad with my id - toshazed
[15:44] <belkinsa> toshazed, I did see your page.
[15:44] <toshazed> https://launchpad.net/~toshazed
[15:44] <toshazed> it is me
[15:45] <Kilos> nice to meet you toshazed 
[15:45] <belkinsa> Yes, nice to meet you, toshazed.
[15:45] <Kilos> are you going to help us revive your loco
[15:45] <Kilos> with no dictators
[15:45] <toshazed> now a days we have two community members who can help "pavlushka" to get the membership, shabab mustafa and shariar
[15:46] <toshazed> Yes I do, Kilos
[15:46] <Kilos> thanks every bit of help is appreciated
[15:46] <pavlushka> toshazed, Shahriar is not available i think.
[15:46] <belkinsa> We also have bhavani from the LC that is helping us.
[15:46] <toshazed> the two are now a days very irregular in the community or in the mailing list
[15:47] <Kilos> this goes beyong pavlushka alone
[15:47] <toshazed> Shahriar can be connected though his email and cellphone
[15:47] <Kilos> beyond
[15:47] <pavlushka> I emailed him, to linux.org, failed.
[15:48] <Kilos> there are 19 other people that have applied for membership as well
[15:48] <pavlushka> Kilos, may be 20 now
[15:48] <toshazed> for the last three and a half years I was banned into our mailing list or It may be my bad luck
[15:49] <belkinsa> What happened that got you banned?
[15:49] <Kilos> if we can get Shahriar to join us here these problems can be discussed and solutions found
[15:49] <toshazed> as the community representative Shabab was saying that Russel did not done that
[15:50] <toshazed> I was some how telling the truth or standing besides them who are in trouble to getting support
[15:50] <pavlushka> toshazed, whats wrong between you and Mr. Mehedi (omicron lab)???
[15:51] <toshazed> Actually I gave end user support to the Ubuntu and Mint users free of cost and I love to travel all over Bangladesh to do that
[15:51] <pavlushka> toshazed, crosses the path of this matter.
[15:52] <toshazed> Nothing with Mr. Mehedi (omicronlab), as of I know
[15:53] <toshazed> But Mehedi knows me well as I have worte for him and his work (avro keyboard and unijoy layout) on my blog
[15:53] <toshazed> I did not get you pavlushka
[15:53] <toshazed> what crosses?
[15:53] <pavlushka> toshazed, প্রিয় মেহেদী ভাই
[15:53] <pavlushka> আপনি যদিওবা ঐ থ্রেডেই আমাকে বারণ করেছিলেন এই মেইলিং লিস্টে আর কোনরূপ সংযোগ
[15:53] <pavlushka> আর না রাখতে জানিয়ে (আমার ইনবক্সে মেইল না আসলেও আমি মেইলিং লিস্টে নিয়মিত
[15:53] <pavlushka> বিচরন করেছি, করছি) এবং আমার অধিকার আমার কাছ থেকে অন্যায়ভাবে কেড়ে নেবার
[15:54] <pavlushka> প্রতিবাদে আর কোন জবাব না দিতে, তবুও আজকে আবারো মেইল নজরে পড়া মাত্রই
[15:54] <pavlushka> জবাব/উত্তর দিলাম।
[15:54]  * belkinsa will be back in 10 minutes - need some food
[15:54] <toshazed> Everyone, I am going for a break, about 30 mins
[15:54] <toshazed> :)
[15:54] <Kilos> enjoy belkinsa 
[15:54] <Kilos> ok toshazed 
[15:54] <toshazed> pavlushka it was not that mehedi what you are thinking
[15:54] <Kilos> :)
[15:55] <pavlushka> toshazed, Dear brother Mehdi
[15:55] <pavlushka> Though it was forbidden to me that this mailing list, you no longer have any connection thredei
[15:55] <pavlushka> And to keep the (regular mailing list, I really do not mail in my inbox
[15:55] <pavlushka> Visit inside I am), and unjustly take from me my rights
[15:55] <pavlushka> The protest did not give any answer, yet again today, just read the e-mail notice
[15:55] <pavlushka> Response / answer.(translation)
[15:56] <pavlushka> from google translate
[15:56] <toshazed> It was Z M Mehdi Hasan from FOSS Bangladesh and your translation is not so good. Plz don't use google translator. I always fooled that translator with my keytypes ;)
[15:57] <pavlushka> I did it coz time!
[15:58] <Kilos> toshazed everyone must realise one thing, our aim is to promote and grow the u buntu community worldwide
[15:58] <pavlushka> toshazed, and thanks for the suggestion.
[15:58] <Kilos> and to do that everyone must work together
[15:59] <Kilos> facebook , twitter and G+ are not the way ubuntu works
[16:00] <Kilos> launchpad and irc is our way of doing things and has been from the beginning
[16:01] <pavlushka> I needed support about #sane, I knocked here with no result, not even "no, we can't help you"
[16:06]  * belkinsa is back
[16:06] <Kilos> eat slowly belkinsa 
[16:07] <Kilos> rushing food in isnt healthy
[16:07] <belkinsa> I know.
[16:10] <belkinsa> pavlushka, and asking on AskUbuntu did help you?
[16:12] <pavlushka> actually #sane project helped me, the alioth.org
[16:13] <pavlushka> for what to do.
[16:13] <belkinsa> I see.
[16:14] <pavlushka> and i was asking in ask ubuntu, the last stage help, just asking compiling facts
[16:14] <belkinsa> I see.
[16:16] <pavlushka> I was like scraming in the ear drum of sane project, so they are bound to listen.
[16:16] <pavlushka> I was like screaming
[16:16] <Kilos> pavlushka you must always be patient, sometimes people are busy so take a while to answer
[16:16] <belkinsa> +1
[16:17] <belkinsa> Screaming can be too harsh.
[16:17] <Kilos> always treat other people as you would like them to treat you
[16:17] <Kilos> always try make friends everywhere you go
[16:18] <pavlushka> I try, 
[16:18] <pavlushka> and i said a metaphor
[16:19] <pavlushka> screaming thing.
[16:20] <pavlushka> I started screaming after a year passed.
[16:22] <pavlushka> not only to sane but to Canon to , and canon called me and asked me to use a canon scanner that is supported in sane!!!
[16:22] <pavlushka> not only to sane but to Canon as well , and canon called me and asked me to use a canon scanner that is supported in sane!!!
[16:24] <pavlushka> or the corporate types, canon give spacial support.
[16:25] <Kilos> we have a storm buiding here, i could lose power
[16:25] <toshazed> I am back
[16:25] <belkinsa> Kilos, alright.
[16:25] <Kilos> wb toshazed 
[16:25] <belkinsa> toshazed, wb.
[16:25] <pavlushka> Kilos, alright
[16:25] <toshazed> oops! Kilos
[16:26] <toshazed> so where are we now?
[16:26]  * belkinsa looks at Kilos and pavlushka
[16:26] <toshazed> hmm
[16:26] <Kilos> we are looking for solutions to the problem with this loco
[16:27] <toshazed> something about sane and canon scanner
[16:27] <toshazed> going on
[16:27] <toshazed> :)
[16:27] <Kilos> and then the rest of the worlds locos that are in the same boat
[16:27] <belkinsa> Yes, and it's a shame.
[16:28] <toshazed> why shame?
[16:28] <Kilos> it is sad to see locos collapse
[16:29] <belkinsa> Because it doesn't allow the community to grow if everyone is just doing it all Online and no in person interaction.
[16:29] <belkinsa> And for Kilos's reason also.
[16:29] <toshazed> Here in Bangladesh we the community people talked more and more about some 4G/LTE broadband providers modem that never had support for GNU/Linux distros by default. 
[16:29] <toshazed> First of all our young hackers hacked those hardwares
[16:30] <pavlushka> I can configure that
[16:30] <toshazed> and then we managed to get the firmware from the hardware vendor and published it on our local forum sites
[16:30] <Kilos> wonderful
[16:30] <toshazed> and moreover we had tried to build pressure on them buy community gathering
[16:31] <Kilos> now if the loco was still running well that info could have been shared with all ubuntu and linux users
[16:31] <toshazed> like in an IT/ICT fair in here we pack of 25 or 30 members stands still in from the ISP's booth just still and calm
[16:32] <toshazed> peoples arrounds just asked us and we said nothing but showed the ISP peoples to deal with it
[16:33] <toshazed> and after 5 events like that those ISP bring some crossplatform hardware, all together.
[16:34] <Kilos> well done
[16:34] <toshazed> That how I would love to work, The real community job, the real community power and all the user get benifited
[16:34] <toshazed> :)
[16:34] <Kilos> :D
[16:34] <pavlushka> wow
[16:35] <belkinsa> And that's what we need in your LoCo.
[16:35] <Kilos> well toshazed i am glad we have met, i am sure with your help we can get lots working again
[16:35] <belkinsa> +1
[16:36] <pavlushka> belkinsa, using ur powers!!! even her?
[16:36] <pavlushka> belkinsa, using ur powers!!! even here?
[16:36] <belkinsa> Yes, here in your LoCo.
[16:36] <toshazed> Earlier I said my inbox not getting the LoCo mails but I never mind on that. I get into the web log and read out the mails. and Whenever I got time I answered and helped peoples/users
[16:38] <Kilos> together we will get this all sorted so this loco can go ahead at full strength
[16:38]  * belkinsa nods
[16:38] <toshazed> and that the real me. I am 36 now and I always loved to help people arround me.
[16:38]  * pavlushka nods too
[16:39] <Kilos> toshazed thank you for being that kind of person, thats what build community spirit
[16:39] <toshazed> by my money or my knowledge or with my muscle power ;)
[16:39] <toshazed> thanks Kilos
[16:40] <toshazed> it is 22:40 in here in Dhaka, Bangladesh
[16:40] <belkinsa> It's 11:40 AM here in Ohio
[16:40] <toshazed> I need go for bed now.
[16:40] <Kilos> 18.40 in south africa
[16:40] <belkinsa> Alright, sleep well toshazed.
[16:41] <toshazed> So bye bye now
[16:41] <Kilos> thanks toshazed we can carry on with this during the week if it suits you
[16:41] <Kilos> go well. and look after yourself we need you
[16:41] <toshazed> We can meet tomorrow night in here in this same channel and have chat :)
[16:42] <Kilos> i will be here
[16:42] <toshazed> Bye everyone
[16:42] <pavlushka> toshazed, bye bye, thanks for showing up
[16:42] <belkinsa> toshazed, thanks for this and yes, we will be here tomorrow.