[02:04] hey all, so I'm making a custom build of Xubu for a computer project but I can't manage to remaster or generate the iso from a live file system, then how to add persistence after. Anyone know? [02:05] (to a usb) [04:30] hey i'm looking to customize a distro through a live session (make a derivative) then I want to dd a copy of that to an .iso file so that it can be copied as bootable to another drive [04:30] is there a way to do it? dd has failed so far [04:35] fdisk -l file.iso and check the results. [04:40] okay, and can i use remastersys in v15? [04:40] I'd have no idea, never looked at that. [04:42] That'll at least tell you if it is a hybrid iso. [04:43] but that misses the question [04:43] how do i make a copy of the live system i am running? [05:32] looking to generate a xubuntu .iso from within a live filesystem [05:34] anyone know how? === dax is now known as daxcat [09:49] Thanks for the work at Xubuntu! [10:00] knome: what's bug 1663609 about? [10:00] Error: Launchpad bug 1663609 could not be found [10:00] only asking you cos it's obviously private and you reported it on the tracker :p [10:08] morning all [10:09] morning bluesabre :) [10:09] bit early isn't it? [10:10] flocculant: yeah, but went to bed a bit early too [10:10] :) [10:11] I read that - bit light headed :) [10:11] yup [10:11] time to package up xubuntu-docs [10:11] \o/ [10:11] flocculant, hmm... [10:13] flocculant, better now :P [10:13] nope [10:14] oh I see [10:14] you removed it from the tracker :D [10:14] yeah, it was a typing error, should've been 1553609 [10:14] aah :) [10:14] eg. the same blueman bug [10:14] right [10:15] that's an odd one [10:15] yeah.. [10:16] right - quick zsync and I'll get this ssd install done and see if the slideshow gets time [10:16] :) [10:18] ewww :( [10:18] what? [10:19] http://i.imgur.com/hsTOSXj.png [10:19] wanders off to other gtk3 things to look [10:19] :D [10:19] * knome phews [10:19] thought the slideshow had went nuts... [10:20] catfish, fileroller and calc look ok - disks looks rather yuk though [10:21] knome: ha - zsync is quick - getting the image on a stick isn't - not gone yet :D [10:21] :) [10:22] @ Launchpad bug 1553609 [10:22] I have seen this bug also, but only in the VMWare Player and not on my physical system. [10:22] Justanick: Error: "Launchpad" is not a valid command. [10:22] Justanick: yea - we see it on vbox too [10:23] flocculant: Should just be an information. [10:24] bluesabre ochosi knome - http://i.imgur.com/hsTOSXj.png in greybird, not in numix [10:24] back shortly [10:26] flocculant: file a bug for that in case ochosi is out for a while [10:29] yeah [10:34] bluesabre: yea will do - shimmer themeseses ? [10:34] yeseseseses [10:34] knome: you want the good news or bad news first? [10:34] bad [10:35] ready to go slide - it's a list - the window is not resizeable as you know - I only saw down to LO Calc [10:35] screenshot? [10:36] didn't then - will look in vbox shortly [10:36] mhm [10:36] the good news is the installer finished 7 seconds after the slideshow :) [10:37] :) [10:37] right, so i'm pretty sure i know how to fix the app slide [10:38] flocculant: yes [10:38] just booting a vm for install now [10:38] knome, slickymaster https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/16.04 [10:38] hooray [10:38] knome, slickymaster: feel free to bump the release from UNRELEASED to xenial in the debian/changelog [10:39] flocculant, oh wow yeah, it is a list here too [10:39] what the... [10:39] http://i.imgur.com/ryv08t2.png [10:39] oh [10:39] * knome facepalms [10:39] my mistake [10:39] i *totally* know how to fix that [10:39] :) [10:39] haha [10:39] okey doke :) [10:39] there we go [10:40] pushed to the main branch, so that should be visible on the ISOs once a new release is done [10:41] knome: you want me to rebuild? [10:41] no need to [10:41] especially if you mean the ISO [10:41] I did [10:41] because we need an upload... [10:41] oh yea [10:42] bluesabre, done [10:42] eh no [10:42] diverged branches [10:43] let me just get the whole branch again for a change [10:46] bug 1556027 [10:46] bug 1556027 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "Gnome Disks restore image menu shows thick lines" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1556027 [10:47] put it on the blueprint [10:47] ta [10:48] need a bug for the slideshow or not? [10:48] assuming not :) [10:49] nope, it's fix committed already [10:50] yep - thought so - I noted it on the tracker just in case anyway looks today [10:50] quite pleased that the timing for the slideshow was ok [10:50] yep [10:51] pretty good guessing with 10 seconds to spare :D [10:51] biab [11:19] flocculant, one thing... if we wanted a link directly to webchat from #xubuntu-offtopic, that hasn't been done yet [11:26] right - I guess we should [11:42] flocculant: is that a bug you see in xenial? [11:43] ochosi: yea - recently [11:43] ochosi, you broke it! [11:43] if so, could you check "open file" in any other gtk3 app? [11:43] * knome stands proud and waits for the slap [11:43] oh god [11:43] knome: either i broke it or they pushed a gtk3 update/change [11:43] open file looks bad in other apps [11:43] ochosi: yea - open file in fileroller does the same [11:44] alright, then it's obvious that it's the sidebar class [11:44] i'll look into fixing that asap [11:44] ochosi: thinking about it - I did see some rabbiting on in -desktop the other day [11:44] must be ochosi's fault anyway... [11:44] :) [11:51] knome: too pointed? http://pad.ubuntu.com/V7rfHrI9Nz [11:51] knome: packagesets are lowercase technically, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/xenial/kubuntu [11:52] yeah but Kubuntu is Kubuntu... [11:52] er http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/xenial/ [11:52] k [11:52] oh right [11:52] :D [11:52] knome is a good email writer [11:53] ok, i think that's better [11:53] cool [11:53] since you asked if it was too pointy, not really, quite the opposite [11:54] "if this is possible..." [11:54] just ask "we'd like to get this back please" ;) [11:54] :D [11:54] but wait [11:54] ok [11:54] there [11:55] * bluesabre sees a wild flocculant [11:55] * flocculant saw a wild pad :p [11:55] :D [11:56] sending it along then [11:56] goodie [11:57] bluesabre: you know there's only cyphermox and infinity in dmb now ... [11:57] flocculant: yeah, but rules are rules [11:57] yea [11:57] I should probably get my application in for that this weekend [11:57] pleia2, no need to react to this, but as you might see, i pushed stuff from contest.xubuntu.org to the dev branch too; we might want to merge the static branch there as well, since i see no real reason to track this stuff separately; feel free to disagree and tell me to push to different branches anyway (with arguments ;)) [11:58] and to the MOTU [11:58] :d [11:58] knome: probably not done enough non-xubuntu packaging to matter for motu [11:58] heh [11:58] anyway [11:58] it looks like I only care about us :D [11:58] bbl -> [11:58] ha ha [12:10] what do you need the dmb for? [12:12] sorry - I forgot you were in the channel ... [12:13] bluesabre sent a mail re shimmer-themes and it should be xubuntu but kubuntu have it [12:13] means little to me tbh - not my bag :p [12:14] hey cyphermox [12:15] hi :) [12:15] we are unable to upload to shimmer-themes since its outside of our package set... it used to be ours, but got pulled into Kubuntu and has been stuck there since [12:16] at this point, there is nothing that should be keeping it in Kubuntu, but we still can't upload it [12:16] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/xenial/kubuntu vs http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/xenial/xubuntu [12:16] ok [12:17] and the mail in question, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2016-March/000910.html [12:17] :) [15:47] from a discusison on desktop ML... does anyone know if xfce4-volumed still does anything on the xubuntu image (or if it's needed at all anymore..) [15:47] (from post - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2016-March/004790.html) [15:49] bluesabre, ochosi, Unit193, sidi: ^ [15:50] it's been removed from debian, so I'm thinking it's no longer needed - but it is still a Recommends of ubuntustudio-desktop-core, xfce4-settings, xubuntu-core, and xubuntu-desktop [15:51] Remove it :-) [15:51] you guys use the pulse fork [15:51] pulse spoon [15:52] I cant port the ALSA fork because of a missing interface in GStreamer. I might some day rip/fork gstreamer 0.1 just to get the mixer back and remake a panel plugin and all but who's got time. [15:52] I still deeply hate Pulse tho so there's that. [15:52] you're silly. [15:53] added a work item, thanks gQuigs, sidi [15:53] What is Martin Pitt's IRC Handle tho? [15:53] pitti [15:53] ty! [15:53] and hi sidi :) [15:54] hi flocculant ! :-) [16:01] sidi: are you pinging Martin about it on IRC? [16:02] i'll do that [16:02] oh, sidi did already [16:02] good good [16:05] yeah just wanted to clarify why we use 0.10 [16:06] well why we.. don't use 0.10 :P [16:06] We, as in sidi, do :p [16:06] #pulseovermydeadbody [16:06] oh, the royal we [16:06] i'll remember that on your funeral [16:06] why we don't use gst0.10 anymore? [16:07] gQuigs, it's being deprecated [16:08] yup I know.. just clarifying the question sidi was asking... [16:09] 17:54 sidi: pitti, hi, regarding [16:09] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2016-March/004790.html the reason why xfce4-volumed is still using gst 0.10 is because the GStreamer devs never ported the mixer interface to gst 1.0 [16:09] 17:55 sidi: so it's not so much that the projects are dead, but rather impossible to keep maintained. Still happy for xfce4-volumed to be shot out of the repos though. I don't have time to work around the mixer interface's absence and provide a working package. [16:09] gQuigs, ^ [16:09] i don't think sidi was asking a question :) [16:10] k, thanks :) [16:10] dinnertime [16:10] bbl [16:20] flocculant, user-docs/C/settings-preferences.xml [16:20] http://pastebin.com/dmmVCD6E [16:21] extra space within the Settings Manager tags and typo in documentation at the final of the sentence [16:21] do you want to recommit or do you want me to correct it and then merge your MP? === daxcat is now known as rwd [16:33] merged the typo - the space isn't in settings-prefs.xml - it must be in wherever &wm-settings-menulibre lives [16:33] but it isn't on the docs > http://docs.xubuntu.org/1510/C/settings-preferences.html [16:34] I'll check the xubuntu.ent file at home [16:39] sidi, you happen to remember the packagename for the PA equivalent? [16:40] knome, I think the package named xfce4-volumed in Ubuntu currently is xfce4-volumed-pulse? [16:41] no [16:41] ~$ apt-cache search volumed [16:41] xfce4-volumed - volume keys daemon [16:42] pavucontrol [16:42] that's it [16:43] or is it the soundmenu indicator [16:43] i really don't know enough to know, but it's not xfce4-* [16:47] flocculant, knome, bluesabre: fixed the sidebar bug in greybird (already in git master) [16:48] nice [16:56] ochosi: \o/ [16:57] bluesabre: sorry for making you go through the packaging again for a one-liner :( but really, this bug wasn't there when i checked about 2 weeks ago or so [17:09] it wasn't - definitely wasn't visible in disks when I used it last time - I would have said something :) [17:16] good, i feel less guilty now ;) [17:27] :) [17:37] looking to make a custom xubuntu distro. dd if=/usb/path of/path/to/file.iso doesn't work from live system and produces non-bootable archive. do you know how to create an iso from a live session? [17:39] or how to remaster xubuntu? [17:51] xubuntu27w: sounds like a lmgtfy question... have you checked the official docs? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto [17:53] yep [17:53] it works fine with ubuntu [17:53] but not xubuntu [17:54] right, well i haven't tried that ever [17:55] you could ask one of the derivatives, as there are a few [17:55] and if you fix your problem it#d always be good to know where you had to depart from the official docs [18:01] knome: what's the ETA on the community wallpaper contest? [18:04] ochosi, my plan is to fix the outstanding bugs over the weekend or monday the latest, then announce [18:05] sweet [18:05] if anyone of you want to draft the announcement mail/article... [18:05] also, please check the guidelines [18:05] you are even able to edit them when you log in to the contest site, so no need to pass through me [18:06] bbl -> [19:31] thanks for uploading bluesabre [19:40] flocculant, there's something wrong with your MP [19:40] did you actually tried to build it [19:40] it isn't === rwd is now known as ro [19:46] slickymaster: builds fine here [19:46] slickymaster, what's the error for you? [19:47] upon running the exo-open --launch WebBrowser index.html instead of getting [19:48] file:///home/slickymaster/xubuntu-docs/build/index.html in the browser [19:48] I get http://index.html/ [19:48] well [19:48] I sure as hell don't muck about with terminal commands to run a webpage ;) [19:48] "[exo] ./index.html" ? [19:49] let me try it knome [19:50] yeap, that does it [19:50] but that souldn't be necessary, or expected, should it [19:51] why not? [19:51] how would the browser know you want to open a file and not a website called "index.html" if you give it no clue about your intention? [19:51] why yes? [19:52] it's a *web* browser, so browsing the *web* is the default option [19:52] ./ tells the path you want is relative, so it knows to look in the filesystem [19:52] if I'm already in the foleder where the page is and I'm teeling the browser to just open it [19:52] * folder [19:53] if you are in a directory where you have a file called "google.com", which one would you say the browser should open: the google website or your file? [19:54] my point is that I never needed until now to give him the relative path [19:55] what changed? [19:55] if you branch the -docs last re. you don't have to give the relative path [19:55] i don't think it has anything to do with the docs [19:56] maybe the browser has changed the default action? [19:56] just tried it with rev. 551 [19:56] no need to a relative path [19:56] some broswer [19:56] * same [19:57] was just thinking in last paragraph of flocculant's commit msg [19:58] is it possible that it can be related? [19:58] just cirios [19:58] * curious [19:58] what about it? [19:58] it seems to be valid markup [19:59] so it should produce valid markup [19:59] though "Edit Actions" needs to be wrapper in [20:00] where are you seeing that knome ↑ [20:01] in the last paragraph [20:01] on the LP diff, it's between lines 3-4 [20:01] of that paragraph, that is [20:01] wait [20:01] this stretches [20:01] it's a few words after &appmenu; [20:05] lol knome, afte &appmenu I see "Search Actions", not "Edit Actions" [20:05] slickymaster, in the last change mentioned in the diff? [20:05] are you hallucinating [20:05] perhaps [20:06] haven't eat since dinner yesterday [20:06] slickymaster, http://awesomescreenshot.com/0da5pdtmbf [20:07] bah, you said 19:59 knome: though "Edit Actions" needs to be wrapper in [20:07] yes [20:07] not Edit Applications [20:07] and you talked about Search Actions [20:07] ;) [20:07] whatever [20:07] i'm doing something else :P [20:08] sometimes you just drive me crazy :P [20:08] ha ha ha [20:08] slickymaster, that looks like a sweet spot for a potential low blow below the belt... driving... [20:08] anyway - whatever is in that last paragraph I didn't touch apart from the second t in documentation :) [20:09] need to get some food [20:37] flocculant, merged [20:38] slickymaster: ok cheers - afaik that's all :) [20:38] just inclosed the Edit Applications within tgas [20:38] * tags [20:38] thanks for everything [20:41] welcome :) [20:41] the fish too? [20:41] absolutely === ro is now known as ezri [21:55] puckz, and hello, you might recognise me from the mailing list [21:56] weird, somehow document templates don't work for me in thunar.. [21:56] added some files to the dir defined as template dir in .config/user-dirs.dirs, nothing shows in the context menu [21:57] that always was a bit weird; i remember it worked with the preset directories, but once those were removed, it kind of just stopped working... [21:59] bluesabre and I did talk about presets at the end of wily/beginning of this one - didn't get very far :) [22:01] yeah, meh [22:01] you can't rename the dir [22:01] somehow it must be hardcoded somewhere in thunar then [22:02] knome: i presume you don't have a finnish installation? [22:02] cause i wonder whether it would still have to be "Templates" [22:02] ochosi, i have a finnish user on my laptop, but i don't think i remember the password [22:02] but system-wide, no [22:06] hmm [22:06] anyway, it seems like it should take the one from the user-dirs.dirs file [22:06] yes [22:06] should [22:17] what's the problem there though? [22:20] doesn't :P [22:21] :p [22:21] works fine here - can't be an issue then :p [22:21] well - with the 2 I have anyway [22:21] and did you have a bulgarian UI? [22:21] of course [22:22] is it that Templates ends up being called something else then? [22:22] new to me this issue is :) [22:23] if it's translated, it's not working apparently [22:23] maybe [22:23] but if it's anything else than that, and even if that was configured in user-dirs.dirs, it doesn't work [22:23] that's what ochosi just reported [22:33] so if I change Templates to Templatess - make sure that user-dirs.dirs corresponds, run xdg-user-dirs-update, rebooted and now I see templates in Templatess http://i.imgur.com/Hf7hTAQ.png [22:34] unless it was xdg-user-dirs-update --set TEMPLATES ~/Templatess [22:34] regardless - didn't work till I rebooted [22:34] mhm [22:36] if nothing else I learnt something :p [22:39] :)