[01:27] <pjotter1> Hello everybody. What is the default font and fontsize for Xubuntu?
[03:15] <R13ose> How come xfce4 notifications don't do anything when I click show?
[03:17] <xangua> You're gonna have to be more specific
[03:43] <R13ose> xangua: when I the notifications that show up on the top right side for me that say "You have mail." or similar, and a show button, and click that, the program doesn't come to the foreground.
[03:45] <xangua> What program is showing that notification?
[03:46] <R13ose> xangua: I installed this from command: xfce4-notifyd
[03:48] <xangua> R13ose: and? What is the program that is showing this mail notification?
[03:49] <R13ose> The desktop notifications that is all I know.  I don't know the exact name of this.
[03:50] <xangua> Well you sure configured some program to show your mail notifications...didn't you?
[03:52] <R13ose> xangua: nope.  I was using that as an example.
[03:53] <xangua> Ok?
[03:55] <R13ose> don't notifications show up for you when there is a new message from a program?
[14:59] <xubuntu43i> se queda trabado en "obteniendo la hora de un servidor de hora en red
[15:00] <flocculant> !es | xubuntu43i
[15:46] <Darken__> hy!!!
[15:46] <knome> hello.
[15:46] <Darken__> anybody???
[15:46] <knome> i'm nobody.
[15:47] <Darken__> hello are you use xubuntu???
[15:47] <knome> (if you have a question, just ask it and if somebody knows the answer, they will reply)
[15:47] <Darken__> sorry for that
[15:47] <Darken__> ok well i lost my desktop icons and i do not find how restore it
[15:48] <knome> Darken__, settings manager -> desktop -> tab icons should help you get them back
[15:49] <Darken__> ok i see and later tell you.
[19:42] <luminoso> hi! if i install 16.04 beta1 will it self-update to final version automatly?
[19:42] <luminoso> *automatically
[19:42] <luminoso> if i enable unattended updates for example
[19:42] <knome> automatically, no, but if you run the updates, then you get pretty much as much as you would get with the final 16.04 ISO
[19:43] <luminoso> ok that is very nice
[19:43] <rwd> !final
[19:45] <luminoso> thank you very much
[19:46] <luminoso> i'm asking this because "when there are security updates" in software&updates settings is greyed out
[19:46] <luminoso> http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/650x448x03_selecting_download_and_install_automatically.png.pagespeed.gp+jp+jw+pj+js+rj+rp+rw+ri+cp+md.ic.JkMFed5l3B.png
[19:46] <luminoso> this one
[19:46] <luminoso> is it because it's a beta?
[19:49] <aicasn> hey folks - i'm running xubuntu 14.04.4 LTS. every few minutes the system freezes for about 5 seconds. mouse works, but the keyboard does not. all keystrokes come in after the freeze, however, showing that they were buffered. any ideas on what this is?
[19:52] <well_laid_lawn> aicasn:  I would have top running in a terminal to check if something uses all the system for a bit
[19:53] <aicasn> negative
[19:53] <aicasn> just had a freeze and htop reported nothing
[19:53] <aicasn> nothing out of the ordinary, that is
[19:55] <well_laid_lawn> did htop freeze too ?
[20:04] <aicasn> can't say for sure. i'll watch again on the next freeze
[20:14] <aicasn> feels like a read() gets hung
[20:16] <well_laid_lawn> you'll have to find out what is calling read then
[20:20] <aicasn> my suspicion is that it is X because the keyboard it completely hung during the freeze, but the mouse isn't. and even though the mouse is working window dragging does not work
[20:22] <aicasn> *work fluidly, that is
[20:23] <well_laid_lawn> why would X hang the keyboard but not the mouse ?
[20:23] <aicasn> no idea :/
[20:23] <well_laid_lawn> doesn't seem likely to me
[20:23] <aicasn> it's significant in my mind because it rules out the keyboard driver
[20:23] <aicasn> if only the kb driver was hanging then mouse click-n-drag would work
[20:25] <aicasn> like i said i only have a couple of seconds each freeze to analyze things, but it's sooo annoying when you're typing --
[20:25] <well_laid_lawn> if X was having major issues then the mouse pointer position wouldn't be updated
[20:26] <aicasn> i considered that, too, but i would think that the mouse handler would have a dedicated thread
[20:26] <aicasn> also, can you think of anything that  1) affects keyboard input, 2) affects x responsiveness (like draggin), 3) does NOT affect mouse cursor movement ??
[20:27] <aicasn> i don't know of anything that would exactly match that, so right now i'm leaning towards X
[20:27] <well_laid_lawn> not offhand
[20:28] <aicasn> if it continues and i cannot narrow down the problem i suppose i would take that as an indication that this Xorg has a bug and maybe i should move off of LTS
[20:28] <aicasn> though i don't particularly want to  O.O
[20:28] <well_laid_lawn> I would be inclined to think more of an input/output issue
[20:29] <well_laid_lawn> something is using resources and slowing the visual update
[20:29] <well_laid_lawn> enough free memory? swapping ?
[20:30] <aicasn> mouse cursor doesn't even stutter. mem usage < 50%. no swapping
[20:36] <well_laid_lawn> what programs are open when the delay happens ?
[20:37] <aicasn> xorg->xfce-> lots of terminals, firefox, htop
[20:37] <aicasn> this is a laptop so i'm not running a top of services in the bg
[20:37] <aicasn> *ton
[20:38] <aicasn> scratch ff. freeze happens w/o it
[20:40] <well_laid_lawn> does it happen with just one terminal open ?
[20:41] <aicasn> hah. i don't think i've ever had just one terminal open
[20:41] <aicasn> why do you think that terminal might have something to do with it?
[20:41] <well_laid_lawn> any remote filesystems mounted and being indexed or dropbox or similar ?
[20:42] <aicasn> negative
[20:42] <well_laid_lawn> justa guess
[20:43] <well_laid_lawn> maybe try   dmesg -w   ina terminal and see if the kernel shows something
[20:44] <aicasn>  -w?
[20:45] <well_laid_lawn> it's kinda like tail -f , keeps showing dmesg output as it happens
[20:45] <aicasn> negative. invalid option
[20:45] <aicasn> dmesg --version     dmesg from util-linux 2.20.1
[20:46] <well_laid_lawn> try   tail -f /var/log/kernel.log
[20:47] <lopta> Does Xubuntu ship with something that will show me the CPU temperature?
[20:47] <well_laid_lawn> lopta:  you can install the sensors package
[20:47] <well_laid_lawn> !sensors
[20:47] <well_laid_lawn> oops lm-sensors package
[20:49] <aicasn> kern.log has nothing for the past 3 hours and i have had several freezes since then
[20:49] <well_laid_lawn> k
[20:49] <well_laid_lawn> nothing in the X log ?
[20:50] <lopta> I think this poor computer needs help.
[20:50] <aicasn> the system doesn't seem to be taking note of it. kinda leans in the direction of my read() theory. technically blocking IO is behaving when it blocks
[20:50] <aicasn> nope
[20:52] <well_laid_lawn> does the lag happen when you're in a tty ?
[20:52] <aicasn> i could not make it happen. i typed out all the song lyrics i could think of in vim and it didn't stutter once
[20:53] <well_laid_lawn> ok
[20:54] <aicasn> strange isn't it?
[20:54] <well_laid_lawn> you could try using a window manager instead of xfce as a test just to see if it is X or an application that gets started
[20:55] <aicasn> that's an idea. i wonder if awesomewm has a decent deb repo
[20:55] <well_laid_lawn> !awesomewm
[20:55] <aicasn> last i tried it on linux the packaged version was soooooo out-of-date and buggy  :/
[20:56] <well_laid_lawn> I'd use the git repo
[20:56] <aicasn> yeah if i were going to stick with it i would for sure
[20:56] <aicasn> actually it might be better for a laptop than a point-and-shoot wm
[20:57] <well_laid_lawn> since you use lots of terminals a tiler might be appropriate
[20:58] <aicasn> hah. my 4 pm appt canceled so i have an hour to play with it :D
[21:01] <well_laid_lawn> that's lucky
[21:01] <aicasn> very. and it's friday
[21:01] <well_laid_lawn> awesome takes some setting up - there are simpler wm's
[21:02] <aicasn> for sure. i like awesome though
[21:02] <aicasn> it's my pick of the tilling wms
[21:02] <well_laid_lawn> k
[21:03] <aicasn> and as i said i may stick with it on this laptop. i'm very pro-keyboard and the whole trackpad, quasi-mouse thing is a pain sometimes
[21:04] <well_laid_lawn> that's why I use a tiler
[21:05] <aicasn> which one do you use?
[21:05] <well_laid_lawn> I made my own
[21:06] <aicasn> you wrote yourself a tilling wm?
[21:06] <aicasn> nothing in repos that would have worked for you i guess ??
[21:06] <well_laid_lawn> I'm just fussy
[21:06] <aicasn> lol. k
[21:07] <aicasn> straight to xlib or with a toolkit?
[21:07] <aicasn> well.. x11
[21:08] <well_laid_lawn> just using the xlibs
[21:08] <aicasn> that's quite a time investment. i hope it works for you
[21:08] <well_laid_lawn> works great for me
[21:09] <well_laid_lawn> xlib is pretty straightforward once you know it
[21:25] <aicasn> grrrr.. 14.04 doesn't have cmake >= 3
[21:25]  * aicasn goes ppa hunting...
[21:33] <aicasn> okay...awesomewm is up
[21:33] <aicasn> first things first...fix font for my blind ass  O.O
[21:34] <knome> aicasn, please remember this is a family-friendly channel
[21:34] <aicasn> ah. noted :)
[21:44] <puckz> Hi all! My Software Updater says "Failed to download repository information - Check your Internet connection." Of course I'm connected to the net. Could someone guide me, please? I'm using Xubuntu 14.04. Thanks in advance!
[21:54] <knome> puckz, you might want to check if changing your repository to the main server helps (software & updates under settings manager)
[21:56] <puckz> knome Thanks. Had the Swedish servers, already changed to the main server without success. I haven't installed anything lately and haven't added any repos.
[21:56] <knome> did you update the repositories after changing?
[21:57] <puckz> Some update with a huge download of files was done. Let me do it again.
[21:57] <knome> after that, you could try running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" on the terminal and see if it gives you further information
[22:01] <puckz> Hmm. I get a message "Failed to download repository information" from the main servers. The detailed info is as follows
[22:01] <knome> !pastebin
[22:01] <knome> :)
[22:01] <puckz> W:Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[22:01] <puckz> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[22:02] <knome> right... so that's a PPA
[22:02] <knome> and it's also what fails
[22:04] <puckz> I guess it's some problems with the repo http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release, right? I'll try to disable that and then see  if it works OK
[22:05] <Pici> !chrome-repo
[22:07] <aicasn> nice Pici
[22:08] <puckz> Sorry, still get the error message