[00:04] <valorie> oooo, 4 greens in a row
[00:05] <valorie> perhaps we'll be able to beef up wily backports without much work?
[00:07] <yofel> probably, if someone finds the time for it
[00:07] <yofel> OTOH, that does not require me or scarlett, so that helps
[00:08] <valorie> right
[00:08] <valorie> LTS is first priority of course
[00:09] <yofel> I completely forgot how long it takes to build kdepim myself after we're pretty much delegating that to the buildds these days...
[00:13] <valorie> I imagine you can heat your house for awhile with that one
[00:48] <Glu111> now i managed to build the deb for the kf5 version of "kde-config-tablet" myself. are my changes to the package of any use for kubuntu?
[01:11] <sick_rimmit> valorie: Hi
[03:00] <rbetzen> sick_rimmit: still there?
[03:42] <fenris-> Login Error "Could not start dbus. Can you call qdbus?
[03:42] <fenris-> in xenial 
[03:42] <fenris-> anyone can help?
[03:54] <fenris-> adding kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:03] <yofel> moin
[10:04] <lordievader> Hey yofel, how are you doing?
[10:06] <yofel> tired after messing around with the other guys and with autopackagetests till 2AM, but otherwise fine
[10:06] <yofel> coffee helped ^^
[10:08] <lordievader> Did it work at 2AM?
[10:08] <yofel> the original setup? Hell no. We later tried out Big Blue Button, which worked... mostly well (the mostly being "flash"), but Rick said he'll write a post about that
[10:10] <lordievader> You guys did have fun... right? 
[10:11] <yofel> oh sure, I mean, after 11PM we pretty much threw the idea about packaging out of the window and went trying out broadcasting solutions and ended up in the BBB demo session and just messed around for some 2h
[10:12] <lordievader> Nice ;)
[10:12] <lordievader> That is what matter. Having fun :)
[10:12] <yofel> that thing worked out rather well, except that flash cannot pick up my digital microphone signal, so I need a different solution for thata
[10:13] <lordievader> An html5/webrtc thing perhaps?
[10:14] <yofel> The BBB folks are working on that as well (they used flash so you can control the webcam streams individually, with html5 that doesn't work). We also need something that can do presentations, so a pure webrtc thing doesn't work
[10:16] <yofel> Rick also wants something that can actually record the session so that he can use it for the podcast
[10:16] <lordievader> That makes sense.
[10:26] <valorie> did something recently change that makes the korganizer daemon go insane and give me tons of notifications every MINUTE?
[10:26] <valorie> there seems no way to get rid of it
[10:27] <valorie> well, I uninstalled it, let's see if that works....
[10:28] <valorie> oh, 2:30am
[10:28] <valorie> should sleep
[11:51] <joelmo> Does sddm start plasma using  using the start script or systemd. And where is kubuntu development happening, I am abit lost on launchpad
[11:52] <joelmo> (asking about unstable kubuntu)
[11:53] <clivejo> there are a few unstable PPA's we use
[11:54] <clivejo> hopefully getting more and more stable as they work through the system!
[11:55] <clivejo> the bleeding edge stuff is called Kubuntu Continious Intregartion(KCI) which is taking source code directly from KDE git and packaging it
[11:56] <lordievader> joelmo: Sddm starts plasma itself.
[11:56] <clivejo> then we have testing PPA's 
[11:58] <clivejo> yofel: would you have time to go through those few plasma packaging issues Im having with 5.5.5?
[11:59] <clivejo> kwin, libkscreen and plasma-workspace
[11:59] <clivejo> if I could get them fixed up, I could work on backporting it
[12:03] <joelmo> lordievader: at sddm I can choose which session I want to login to, here i login to kde5 using the script startkde, do you know if kubuntu uses same to start kde5. Sorry maybe i didn't mean to ask about starting plasma but kde.
[12:04] <yofel> clivejo: maybe later, I'm out for a while now
[12:04] <lordievader> joelmo: Plasma is the name of the KDE desktop ;)
[12:04] <yofel> joelmo: we use whatever is the kde default, which - I believe - is still startkde
[12:04] <clivejo> yofel: give me a shout if you have some "free" time
[12:05] <lordievader> joelmo: Anyhow, I think it is called somewhere from the cpp code. I am not too familiar with the sddm source code, but: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/wily/sddm/wily/files
[12:05] <yofel> sddm itself is started by systemd for that matter
[12:18] <mamarley> clivejo: So the bug that the patch I asked you to cherry-pick was supposed to fix is still in 5.5.5. :(
[12:19] <clivejo> got a link to the bug and patch?
[12:20] <mamarley> Let me find it again.
[12:24] <mamarley> clivejo: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351777 and https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-workspace.git&a=commit&h=5a1a411b41f950e97d80ff7c898052fb6d02fb1a
[12:30] <clivejo> mamarley: I think when that was uploaded it used the 5.5.5 source
[12:30] <clivejo> there is now a 5.5.5.2 source
[12:30] <clivejo> which our scripts seem to ignore
[12:32] <clivejo> hummm
[12:32] <clivejo> 5.5.5.2 doesnt seem to be patched
[12:33] <clivejo> and the source has changed
[12:34] <clivejo> maybe they fixed this in a different way?
[12:40] <mamarley> clivejo: The bug report doesn't appear to say anything about it being fixed in 5.5.5 at all, only in 5.6.
[12:41] <clivejo> well there is 3 releases
[12:42] <clivejo> 5.5.5, 5.5.5.1 and 5.5.5.2
[12:42] <clivejo> we packaged 5.5.5
[12:43] <clivejo> Ive packaged 5.5.5.2 and uploaded to staging
[12:45] <clivejo> mamarley: you know about packaging?
[12:45] <mamarley> clivejo: I know some things about it.  Probably not as much as you though.
[12:45] <clivejo> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.5.5_xenial.html
[12:46] <clivejo> go down to plasma-worspace
[12:46] <clivejo> and click show/hide for the orange one
[12:46] <clivejo> getting breaks-without-version lintian warnings
[12:47] <mamarley> clivejo: I see them.
[12:47] <clivejo> this is the control file - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/plasma-workspace.git/tree/debian/control?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive
[12:47] <clivejo> I dont know enough about this package to know what it breaks
[12:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:51] <clivejo> awwww some people are so nice!!
[12:51] <clivejo> "We wish to invest from $100,000 to $100 Million in any viable projects that your company requires funding on an investor capacity."
[12:52] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[12:52] <BluesKaj> hey clivejo
[12:53] <BluesKaj> then he owns you ;P
[12:53] <clivejo> were you are the party BluesKaj?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> not for long
[12:54] <BluesKaj> my video feed sucked
[12:54] <clivejo> did you try the bigbluebutton?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> no
[12:57] <clivejo> we got kinda side tracked
[12:58] <clivejo> and went looking for a soluation to the 10 max people on hangouts
[12:58] <clivejo> and came across Big Blue Button
[12:59] <clivejo> so we where laughing and joking on the demo server when this guy started to talk to us
[12:59] <clivejo> hes the lead guy who runs the project!
[12:59] <clivejo> so he gave us our own instance with 4 rooms!
[13:02] <clivejo> its open source and is installed on Ubuntu!
[13:05] <BluesKaj> ok , whatever your own instance with 4 rooms means :-)
[13:09] <clivejo> like a server!
[13:09] <clivejo> so no need to setup and manage our own!
[13:14] <mamarley> clivejo: I have had a look but I can't tell what versions it breaks either, sorry. :(  My packaging experience is pretty much limited to the graphics drivers PPA.  If you figure it out, please let me know so I can learn though.
[13:14] <clivejo> Im waiting on a lesson with yofel!
[13:18] <clivejo> mamarley: have you staging PPA enabled?
[13:21] <sgclark> clivejo: at which version did you figure out that it breaks stuff? (<< that version) Though I admit it trips me up as well. yofel of course has it mastered.
[13:21] <mamarley> clivejo: Yes.
[13:21] <yofel>  FWIW, our "5.5.5" version was upstream 5.5.52
[13:22] <yofel> *5.5.5.2
[13:22] <yofel> our script resolved the 5.5.5.2 symlink to 5.5.5
[13:22] <clivejo> oh
[13:22] <clivejo> yofel: I didnt release that
[13:22] <yofel> erm, 5.5.5 symlink to 5.5.5.2
[13:23] <yofel> I probably wouldn't have either, just saying
[13:23] <clivejo> Ive uploaded 5.5.5.2
[13:23] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+build/9338444
[13:23] <clivejo> will that cause problems?
[13:23] <yofel> not sure how the script is supposed to handle that. It would need to read the upstream file, check if it's a symlink, then do the dereferencing itself until it reaches the correct filename
[13:23] <yofel> nope
[13:24] <yofel> it'll be a simple no-change rebuild
[13:27] <clivejo> so best way would be to create a patch
[13:27] <mamarley> I could probably do that.
[13:27] <mamarley> (If we are still talking about the bugfix I want.)
[13:27] <clivejo> based on the current SC for 5.5.52
[13:28] <yofel> is it fixed in the 5.5 branch?
[13:28] <clivejo> cause the code has changed since that patch upstream was applied
[13:28] <yofel> that would help..
[13:28] <clivejo> well if the script pulled in 5.5.5.2 and thats the version mamarley has installed then its not fixed
[13:29] <clivejo> I thought the script took the 5.5.5 version and thats why I uploaded 5.5.5.2
[13:29] <mamarley> The diff is pretty simple and I know a bit about C programming, so maybe I can backport it and make a patch.
[13:29] <mamarley> Well, this is actually C++, but close enough.
[13:29] <clivejo> its only a few lines
[13:30] <mamarley> I will pull down the 5.5.5.2 package and see what I can do.
[13:30] <yofel> true, not fixed in branch :/
[13:30] <mamarley> That's fine; it just gives me my first opportunity to help out!
[13:31] <clivejo> mamarley: sure, if you paste me the patch Ill apply it
[13:31] <mamarley> OK, I will let you know when I have something.
[13:32] <yofel> please do ask d_ed if that patch is safe to apply to 5.5 - when you see him. (just so we have an upstream ack)
[13:34] <clivejo> he said on the bug report "I've only pushed this in master as I fear there may be some fallout. If people can test and let me know I might backport it."
[13:35] <acheron88> on staging http://paste.ubuntu.com/15358514/
[13:37] <clivejo> !info account-plugin-google xenial
[13:38] <acheron88> got pulled in with unity when testing I think
[13:38] <clivejo> looks like a Gnome/KDE conflict
[13:39] <yofel> ah ok, feel free to add then
[13:39] <acheron88> I'm just going to remove the unity/gnome version
[13:39] <clivejo> yofel: do we add a breaks for other suites?
[13:39] <acheron88> but should be able to coexist
[13:39] <yofel> clivejo: sorry, I missed the context?
[13:40] <yofel> oh THAT thing
[13:40] <yofel> that's like a year old bug that we keep forgetting about
[13:40] <sgclark> we did not forget
[13:40] <clivejo> kde-config-telepathy-accounts (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service', which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+16.04.20160126-0ubuntu1
[13:40] <yofel> as far as I can tell, that should be "Conflicts: account-plugin-$foo"
[13:40] <sgclark> I rewoke that beast
[13:41] <yofel> as that's just plainly not co-installable
[13:41] <sgclark> and it is supposedly fixed now in libaccounts-glib
[13:41] <acheron88> aha. fair enough. 1st time I've had it
[13:41] <yofel> oh ok?
[13:41] <yofel> sgclark: which version?
[13:41] <sgclark> let me get a link
[13:42] <sgclark> last comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1451728
[13:43] <yofel> ok, so I guess we need to change our install paths to XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP then?
[13:44] <sgclark> sounds like it. How exacly is that done?
[13:44] <yofel> usually in the install file, like:
[13:44] <yofel> /usr/foobar /usr/new/location/foobar/
[13:45] <yofel> as long as the plugins still work then (which should be the case if they use libaccounts)
[13:45] <acheron88> purging gnome version sorted it the 'inelegant' way anyways
[13:46] <yofel> oh, I should read the comments
[13:46] <yofel> https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kaccounts-integration.git&a=commit&h=deff781ae751f2f1c95b24997d01aa38c0dd7502
[13:46] <acheron88> rest of xenial staging and the stuff migrated through to the main archive seems to be working well 
[13:46] <acheron88> as much of the KDE/plasma stack that I use, anyway
[13:49] <yofel> -              <a href="attachment:1.3?place=body"><img src="file:text-plain.png" border="0" style="max-width: 100%" alt=""/>broken.attachment</a>
[13:49] <yofel> +              <a href="attachment:1.3?place=body"><img src="file:" border="0" style="max-width: 100%" alt=""/>broken.attachment</a>
[13:49] <yofel> FAIL!  : RenderTest::testRender(openpgp-signed-mailinglist+additional-children.mbox) Compared values are not the same
[13:49] <yofel> anyone disagree that this looks like upstream kdepim tests can't handle breeze? Or am I missing something?
[13:49] <yofel> I also saw a QWARN that it couldn't find oxygen somewhere
[13:51] <sgclark> img source being empty is surely a failure
[13:52] <yofel> hm, the icon theme might be missing
[13:53] <yofel> OTOH, the tests fail in kde ci as well, so I'll just disable the autopkgtests for now
[13:54] <yofel> now how do you actually do that..
[13:54] <Glu111> export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck
[13:54] <sgclark> debian removes autopkgtest line in control I think
[13:55] <sgclark> or that
[13:55] <mamarley> clivejo: The patch applies cleanly.  Let me make sure it compiles...
[13:55] <sgclark> yofel: looking at kaccount-providers there is no install file. So is it something handled upstream?
[13:56] <mamarley> Great, the build-deps cause a bunch of conflicts on my system. :( I will put it in one of my PPAs instead.
[13:56] <yofel> sgclark: there was that kaccounts-integration patch I linked above
[13:56] <yofel> maybe that's sufficient?
[13:57] <yofel> mck seems to have patched other stuff too though (see the bug comments)
[13:59] <ahoneybun> mm for some reason using adb freezes my machine
[13:59] <mamarley> clivejo: Does ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma have build dependencies on other PPAs?
[14:00] <sgclark> it souldnt
[14:00] <mamarley> OK, thanks!
[14:00] <sgclark> ugh it shouldn't
[14:00] <sgclark> perhaps I am not awake yet, but I only see changes to the providers bit in that patch.
[14:01] <mamarley> sgclark: Is that second message intended for me?
[14:02] <sgclark> no yofel sorry
[14:02]  * sgclark has not had enough coffee
[14:02] <yofel> hm
[14:02] <mamarley> clivejo: I just uploaded it to https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages to test to make sure it compiles.  Right now I need to take my puppydog for a walk.  I will be back in a bit.
[14:02] <yofel> give me a minute to finish kdepim
[14:02] <BluesKaj> does the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma have plasma 5.6 ?
[14:02] <sgclark> sure no problem. I need more coffee
[14:03] <sgclark> BluesKaj: no
[14:04] <BluesKaj> sgclark, ok, thanks...btw you're up early ;-)
[14:04] <sgclark> yeah I agree
[14:04] <sgclark> we are still working on bugfix releases for xenial
[14:07] <BluesKaj> well, I admire everyone's dedication here. It's nice to see there are people who care about kubuntu, especially now.
[14:14] <yofel> sgclark: the patch changes both the providers and services install path
[14:14] <yofel> which is sufficient I believe?
[14:14] <sgclark> yes
[14:14] <sgclark> I have the patch ready for push
[14:14] <sgclark> in 15.12.2 we are working on
[14:14] <yofel> it will require a rebuild of all provider packages ofc
[14:15] <sgclark> sure npp
[14:15] <sgclark> np
[14:15]  * sgclark pushes
[14:15] <yofel> so they need >= 15.12.2 build-deps on itegration. Then we'll be fine I think
[14:15] <sgclark> k
[14:15] <yofel> thanks
[15:38] <clivejo> mamarley: patch applied - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/plasma-workspace.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive&id=4b6cabdced2a83fd591b970f4b674845bb735f9a
[15:49] <clivejo> FF is driving me insane!
[15:51] <sgclark> epochs are driving me insane
[15:55] <clivejo> lot of updates today
[15:58] <vertago1> Did anybody record the packaging event yesterday? I planned to join the hangout, but I have been dealing with a work emergency all week.
[16:01] <mamarley> clivejo: Thanks, but I hadn't even had a chance to make sure it ran yet.
[16:15] <sgclark> vertago1: we did not quite achieve our goal wiht the event due to limitation to 10 on google hangouts. I believe we have found a new solution for the next event. stay tuned.
[16:15] <vertago1> twitch tv
[16:16] <vertago1> hahah
[16:16] <vertago1> I was trying to think of a good streaming service
[16:16] <yofel> well, it's not a one man thing, so that doesn't quite work
[16:16] <clivejo> sgclark: did you join in on BigBlueButton
[16:16] <yofel> clivejo: where does one join that actually?
[16:17] <vertago1> yofel how man people do you need? you could do a 10 man hangout and stream that
[16:17] <clivejo> we got a server!
[16:17] <sgclark> I was there for the first session, not the one where you found the dev.
[16:17] <clivejo> kubuntu.blindsidenetworks.net
[16:17] <sgclark> vertago1: the goal is actually more of a classroom
[16:17] <clivejo> use welcome as password
[16:18] <sgclark> q/a session as you will
[16:18] <clivejo> he gave us 4 rooms
[16:18] <sgclark> wow
[16:19] <clivejo> the sound and video are suprisingly good
[16:20] <vertago1> My main question about packaging is say I find out what is wrong. What do I do then? I have posted bugs to launchpad which had sat there for months before being touched.
[16:20] <vertago1> like the FGLRX not working on 15.04 one
[16:23] <vertago1> looks like that one was acutally one month
[16:24] <vertago1> I am trying to get a patch accepted for texmaker related to qt5 upstream, but haven't gotten any response so I also submitted it to launchpad.
[16:25] <mamarley> clivejo: So the patch definitely fixes the problem.  It might be my imagination, but it may also be making my laptop stick on the KDE splash screen longer...
[16:28] <mamarley> It isn't seeming to take any longer on the other systems I have tried though.  Must be something else going on.
[16:29] <sgclark> vertago1: the two packages you just mentioned are upstream Ubuntu and we do not package. I know that does not help you sorry. 
[16:30] <vertago1> sgclark, yeah I figured that, but what is the best way to document issues for kubuntu?
[16:31] <sgclark> Test with us and hang out here, mention things to us, create bugs with tag kubuntu or plasma5
[16:31] <sgclark> we are regretably very short handed right now and we know that. We hope that will change though.
[16:33] <vertago1> how do you normally test? running the beta distribution / backports / etc?
[16:33] <sgclark> We do have one super star bug triager but there are 1556440 bugs reported across 11668 projects :)
[16:33] <vertago1> sgclark so you need people to go through and confirm etc?
[16:34] <sgclark> vertago1: we stage everything first in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-* then call for testers when it is ready
[16:34] <sgclark> vertago1: yes
[16:34] <sgclark> always and forever, bug triage is an endless job
[16:35] <vertago1> this doesn't seem to be the right spot based on your numbers: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa
[16:36] <sgclark> vertago1: that was all Ubuntu. We are equally affected by ubuntu bugs and KDE bugs at bugs,kde.org
[16:36] <sgclark> err bugs.kde.org
[16:36] <sgclark> so many bugs everywhere.
[16:37] <sgclark> which is why we cannot get to every bug in a timely manner. We would nnever get anything packaged lol
[16:38] <vertago1> it helps if there is a patch submitted though right?
[16:38] <sgclark> we do have https://launchpad.net/~ellisistfroh that does a ton of bug work if you want to contact them.
[16:38] <sgclark> vertago1: absolutely
[16:38] <sgclark> vertago1: and if you do, feel free to ping us in here to take a look
[16:38] <sgclark> we welcome all contributions!
[16:40] <yofel> ok, big blue button works great on my notebook. Whatever was wrong on my desktop last night
[16:41] <clivejo> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/plasma-workspace.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive&id=4b6cabdced2a83fd591b970f4b674845bb735f9a
[16:42] <clivejo> yofel: ^
[16:43] <yofel> "You are currently the only person in this conference" - how... nice
[16:45] <mamarley> clivejo: I didn't create the patch, just backported it.
[16:46] <mamarley> And the longer-than-normal KDE splash is only occurring on my laptop, not any other of the 4 systems I have tried the new build on so far.  There must be something else wrong with the laptop.
[16:47] <clivejo> mamarley: Im using the package with your patch
[16:48] <clivejo> boot usually takes me 54 seconds to my desktop displays
[16:48] <clivejo> done it in about 45 this time
[16:48] <mamarley> Ooh, nice.
[16:48] <clivejo> so feels quicker to me!
[16:49] <clivejo> I dont have your crash, but you say it is now fixed?
[16:50] <vertago1> have you looked into using bootchart?
[16:50] <vertago1> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/bootchart.html
[16:51] <vertago1> I wonder how hard it would be to automattically generate a boot chart for the lastest working packages on a vm or something and put it on kci
[16:53] <clivejo> Ive looked at boot chart before
[16:54] <clivejo> but I cant really save any more time
[16:54] <sgclark> ktp-send-file error: pathspec 'kubuntu_xenial_archive' did not match any file(s) known to git. ummmm
[16:54] <vertago1> I think pulseaudio and plasma-nm have broken my boot time in the past
[16:54] <clivejo> I have a PostGres server starting up too
[16:55] <vertago1> clivejo you might be able to delay start some of the services
[16:55] <clivejo> for my OSM stuff
[16:55] <clivejo> but the boot delays dont bother me to be honest
[16:55] <clivejo> unlike the Firefox hanging!
[16:56] <vertago1> all my browser caches are on tmpfs so they are usually really fast
[17:27] <clivejo> hi kfunk
[17:27] <kfunk> hiho
[17:29] <kfunk> what's up? is xenial going to be a good release? :)
[17:30] <BluesKaj> kfunk, it's getting better all the time and it's quite stable and has been for months now
[17:30] <kfunk> well, I'm using it -> working great!
[17:32] <clivejo> :)
[17:32] <clivejo> kfunk: did you test plasma 5.5.5 ?
[18:09] <vertago1> I was thinking about upgrading my machines to xenial. I upgraded one, but I ran into a problem with unison which I use fairly extensively. I was able to install the wiley version for now.
[18:09] <vertago1> There is already a fix in the works.
[18:54] <vip> hi there
[18:54] <vip> is there newest kernel/xorg for wily?
[18:54] <vip> backport from xenial maybe?
[18:55] <vip> im experiencing strange xorg hangs, where theoreticaly everything works, but for real only mouse cursor is moving and you can only sysrq+sub
[18:57] <fenris-> bug 1304805
[19:04] <ahoneybun> is there a reported bug about the widget not being resizable
[19:07] <fenris-> ahoneybun: do you know why this error occur? 
[19:08] <fenris-> quasselclient: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5WidgetsAddons.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZNK19QAbstractTableModel7siblingEiiRK11QModelIndex
[19:08] <clivejo> fenris-: probably different versions in the archive
[19:08] <fenris-> previously its work fine 
[19:09] <fenris-> im in xenial right now
[19:09] <clivejo> we are pushing packages through to the archive
[19:09] <fenris-> otw ? = now ? 
[19:09] <ahoneybun> I just updated xenial
[19:10] <clivejo> did you have any of the landing PPA's enabled?
[19:10] <BluesKaj> i have , clivejo
[19:10] <fenris-> clivejo: for kubuntu? 
[19:11] <clivejo> usually if you had the misc PPA enabled you should be fine as the missing packages are still coming from there
[19:11] <clivejo> yes
[19:11] <fenris-> no kubuntu ppa added yet
[19:12] <fenris-> im also having prob with qdbus 
[19:12] <fenris-> cant login from lightdm 
[19:12] <clivejo> !info qdbus xenial
[19:12] <clivejo> dunno why thats installed
[19:12] <clivejo> xenial will be QT5/KF5
[19:13] <fenris-> :(
[19:13] <clivejo> fenris-: where did you come from when you installed Kubuntu?
[19:14] <fenris-> clivejo: i fresh install ubuntu xenial 
[19:14] <fenris-> then install quassel-client
[19:14] <clivejo> how did you move from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[19:14] <fenris-> then once the libKF5widget problem
[19:14] <fenris-> i tried install kubuntu
[19:14] <fenris-> then im stuck with the qdbus 
[19:15] <clivejo> how did you install kubuntu?
[19:16] <fenris-> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:16] <clivejo> from the main archive?
[19:16] <fenris-> yups
[19:16] <clivejo> its just a lot of blogs seem to be telling people to add unstable PPA's
[19:17] <BluesKaj> oops, clivejov I thougfht you asked "does anyone have landing ppa installed?" 
[19:17] <fenris-> u want me to add the ppa ? 
[19:18] <clivejo> the archive is in a weird state at the moment
[19:18] <clivejo> due to packages getting stuck 
[19:19] <fenris-> at least i can get my quassel work back .. 
[19:19] <clivejo> but if you were using a landing or the misc PPA you probably wont see any problems
[19:19] <clivejo> because the "missing" packages are coming from the PPA
[19:19] <BluesKaj> I have a few packages that are stuck in a upgrade/uninstall loop
[19:19] <clivejo> libkipi spectacle?
[19:20] <fenris-> u mean staging-misc?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> no these, libkf5kdcraw5 libraw15, and gwenview being held back altho it's working fine
[19:22] <clivejo> !info libkf5widgetsaddons5 xenial
[19:22] <fenris-> bug 1451728
[19:23] <fenris-> thats is another broken package if want to install fresh kubuntu-desktop
[19:23] <BluesKaj> ok thanks, clivejo ...the error doesn't seem to be affecting much 
[19:24] <clivejo> fenris-: libKF5WidgetsAddons.so.5 comes from the package libkf5widgetsaddons5 
[19:24] <clivejo> the archive is version 5.15
[19:24] <clivejo> and we are trying to get 5.18 into the archive
[19:26] <clivejo> I think sgclark wiped misc to start on new stuff
[19:26] <fenris-> owh ic 
[19:27] <fenris-> so any ppa that u recommend me to add?
[19:27] <fenris-> to get 5.18
[19:28] <sgclark> fenris-: that bug is suppose to be fixed in the original package. I *just* uploaded our packages with new config to ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-kdeapplications. They need testing
[19:28] <sgclark> in regard to 1451728
[19:29] <clivejo> sgclark: where would we get  libkf5widgetsaddons5 5.18 from?
[19:29] <sgclark> uh? archive?
[19:29] <clivejo> !info libkf5widgetsaddons5 xenial
[19:30] <clivejo> its still 5.15
[19:30] <clivejo> has it got stuck?
[19:30] <clivejo> in proposed?
[19:31] <fenris-> im adding the ppa to test it
[19:31] <fenris-> yofel: here :)
[19:31] <yofel> ah ok, too many pings :D
[19:32] <clivejo> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/kwidgetsaddons
[19:32] <clivejo> current version is 5.18.0-0ubuntu1
[19:32] <clivejo> where is it then!
[19:32] <yofel> fenris-: what version of libkf5widgetsaddons5 do you have installed right now?
[19:33] <yofel> !info libkf5widgetsaddons5 xenial-proposed
[19:33] <clivejo> yipppeeee
[19:33] <clivejo> yofel found it!
[19:34] <sgclark> it is in proposed... yeah..
[19:34] <sgclark> alos in update-excuses which makes no sense to me
[19:35] <clivejo> whats its excuse?
[19:35] <sgclark> lol
[19:35] <fenris-> proposed 
[19:35] <yofel> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kwidgetsaddons
[19:36] <fenris-> ii  libkf5widgetsaddons5:amd64                    5.18.0-0ubuntu1                            amd64        add-on widgets and classes for applications that use the Qt Widgets module
[19:36] <yofel> now here I'm really clueless why it's not considered @_stowa
[19:36] <yofel> wth
[19:36] <clivejo> its green
[19:36] <yofel> now my keyboard is messing with me
[19:36] <clivejo> all passed
[19:37] <sgclark> autopkgtests are not all green though
[19:37] <sgclark> I am not versed in the magig of autopkgtests though. Guess I need to start studying
[19:37] <sgclark> magic*
[19:37] <yofel> well, only RED tests should prevent it from being considered
[19:37] <fenris-> me too
[19:38] <sgclark> ah, well then, why is it blocked :(
[19:38] <yofel> hm, I wonder what actually throws that symbol error
[19:38] <sgclark> not-considered means it is not even up for consideration to go to archive?
[19:38] <yofel> I have a test system with proposed enabled here, and there quasselclient runs fine
[19:38] <fenris-> :(
[19:38] <yofel> sgclark: to go to release, right
[19:38] <sgclark> ugh
[19:39] <fenris-> before this its work fine 
[19:39] <fenris-> after i fresh install xenial 
[19:39] <yofel> oh, qapt has a test it progress. That might be it
[19:41] <sgclark> QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display I recall this needs to be setup in tests directory with openbox and dbus call of sorts.
[19:41] <fenris-> i should wait ? or can do some work around ? 
[19:41] <sgclark> baffeled that is not.
[19:44] <fenris-> how about the qdbus? 
[19:47] <sgclark> yofel: seems like openbox or something is missing in kwidgetaddons for the tests.
[19:48] <yofel> the kwidgetsaddons are all green though?
[19:48] <sgclark> fenris-: I am sorry to say that while we are in transition from ppa to archive it is a terrible time to be a Kubuntu user in xenial. There is so many reason that you could be getting that error.
[19:49] <sgclark> yofel: builds? yes, tests all fail though.
[19:49] <fenris-> sgclark: ok noted 
[19:49] <yofel> sgclark: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/k/kwidgetsaddons/ ?
[19:49] <sgclark> fenris-: just keep updating apt
[19:49] <fenris-> i just installed the DE first
[19:49] <fenris-> sgclark: will do 
[19:50] <fenris-> then will keep updating apt
[19:50] <yofel> fenris-: your quassel version is 0.12.2-0ubuntu1?
[19:50] <sgclark> yofel: hmm. what am I looking at
[19:50] <fenris-> yofel: before this .. but i've upgrade to 0.12.3
[19:50] <fenris-> using ppa
[19:50] <sgclark> https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/amd64/k/kcalutils/20160308_055514@/log.gz
[19:50] <yofel> fenris-: which ppa?
[19:51] <fenris-> https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/quassel
[19:51] <mamarley> !
[19:52] <mamarley> So you are using my Quassel PPA with Xenial?  Do you have "quassel" or "quassel-client" installed?
[19:54] <fenris-> mamarley: yes
[19:54] <yofel> why do we have our own ubuntu-specific quassel version o.O
[19:54] <fenris-> i just upgrade it
[19:54] <mamarley> yofel: Huh?  We don't.
[19:54] <fenris-> just to test either it work .. 
[19:54] <fenris-> previously i used from archive
[19:55] <yofel> mamarley: I mean that we don't share any history with debian at all
[19:55] <mamarley> Oh, that I can't explain.
[19:55] <mamarley> fenris-: So you started getting the complaint about libKF5WidgetsAddons.so.5 when you upgraded to the version from my PPA?
[19:56] <fenris-> nope
[19:56] <fenris-> before that .. 
[19:56] <fenris-> when using archive 
[19:57] <fenris-> so giving a thought upgrade using ppa will make it work again ... but unluckily .. still broken symbol
[19:57] <mamarley> So the issue was happening before you added my PPA too.  Do you have any other PPAs enabled, specifically any of the kubuntu-ppa ones?
[19:58] <fenris-> mamarley: yes ... no other ppa
[19:58] <fenris-> konsole: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5ItemViews.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZNK19QAbstractProxyModel15canDropMimeDataEPK9QMimeDataN2Qt10DropActionEiiRK11QModelIndex
[19:58] <fenris-> it seem the symbol lookup affect other apps as well
[19:59] <mamarley> Hmm, something would seem to be screwed up with your system.  Is this a clean install of Xenial or did you upgrade a Wily install?
[19:59] <yofel> sgclark: yeah, kcalutils seems to need an xvfb wrapper
[20:00] <fenris-> fresh install 
[20:00] <yofel> what irritates me about that lookup error, is that I upgraded to xenial today, and everything works fine
[20:00] <yofel> did you enable proposed updates?
[20:01] <fenris-> yofel: yes
[20:01] <fenris-> mamarley: i only have juju stable ppa and your quassel ppa 
[20:02] <fenris-> the rest all from archive
[20:02] <mamarley> I'm pretty much clueless then.  I haven't had any such issues with my Xenial system, but it was upgraded from Wily rather than being a fresh install.
[20:02] <yofel> fenris-: what does this give you? nm -D /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5WidgetsAddons.so.5 | grep TableModel7sibling
[20:02] <sgclark> proposed enabled has destroyed my system more than once haha
[20:03] <fenris->                  U _ZNK19QAbstractTableModel7siblingEiiRK11QModelIndex
[20:03] <yofel> ok.. same here
[20:07] <yofel> fenris-: nm -D /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5 | grep _ZNK19QAbstractTableModel7siblingEiiRK11QModelIndex
[20:08] <fenris-> 0000000000228830 T _ZNK19QAbstractTableModel7siblingEiiRK11QModelIndex
[20:09] <yofel> ok, I'm clueless.
[20:10] <fenris-> i tried to purge n reinstall 
[20:10] <fenris-> previously ... its remain the same 
[20:11] <yofel> both symbols that you have issues with come from libQt5Core.so.5, but it seems like it's properly defined on your system
[20:11] <yofel> so I don't get why it would fail to look it up...
[20:12] <yofel> fenris-: just to make sure: ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5WidgetsAddons.so.5 | grep Qt5Core
[20:12] <fenris->         libQt5Core.so.5 => /opt/connect/libs/libQt5Core.so.5 (0x00007f602fe74000)
[20:13] <fenris-> hmmmmm 
[20:13] <sgclark> um
[20:13] <yofel> well, nm -D /opt/connect/libs/libQt5Core.so.5 | grep _ZNK19QAbstractTableModel7siblingEiiRK11QModelIndex
[20:15] <yofel> anyway, mystery most likely solved. I'm off for a while
[20:15] <fenris-> i think .. let me remove the connect package first
[20:15] <fenris-> yofel: thanks alot 
[20:15] <fenris-> its my 4g provider package
[20:16] <yofel> you probably have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set in your main env, which it really should not do
[20:17] <ejat_>         libQt5Core.so.5 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5 (0x00007f5b43427000)
[20:17] <ejat_> yay!
[20:17] <ejat_> finally !!!
[20:17] <ejat_> thanks yofel
[20:24] <ejat> its also solved the qdbus 
[20:28] <sgclark> oh yay, glad to hear it.
[20:37] <ejat> i can login to my kubuntu desktop 
[20:41] <ejat> \0/
[20:42] <soee_> hiho
[20:45] <soee_> sgclark: i see a lot of updates in apps, there were some changes ?
[20:46] <sgclark> soee_: yes a year old bug finally fixed. Had to update and rebuild ktp*
[20:47] <soee_> :D
[20:47] <sgclark> needs testing from someone that has unity trying to install ktp though.
[21:39] <ejat> sgclark: run the ktp on unity? 
[22:15] <clivejo> theres a surprise
[22:27] <clivejo> would it not be simpler to put the epoch on the entire suite?