| heeen | sddm-greeter does not come up anymore | 03:25 |
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| heeen | how can I debug this | 03:25 |
| heeen | Cannot create platform OpenGL context, neither GLX nor EGL are enabled | 03:49 |
| heeen | how the heck did qt end up like this | 03:49 |
| virtuosoj | downloading Ubuntu 16.04 daily now | 04:12 |
| virtuosoj | having mained Ubuntu 15.10 and Fedora 23, what is going to be new to me? | 04:13 |
| Phoenixxl | Hey. I was wondering if a development/daily version of ubuntu server upgrades to a release version by updating/upgrading it after release date without the need for reinstalling. | 05:47 |
| Phoenixxl | I am contemplating installing 16.04 for a new server for a few minor tasks instead of installing 14.04 then release upgrading it next month.. | 05:47 |
| lotuspsychje | !final | Phoenixxl | 05:48 |
| ubottu | Phoenixxl: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Xenial and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 16.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal. | 05:48 |
| Phoenixxl | ok thank you. | 05:49 |
| lotuspsychje | Phoenixxl: just keep in mind if you install 16.04 now, things can still break | 05:49 |
| lotuspsychje | Phoenixxl: should not be used for production yet | 05:49 |
| Phoenixxl | i'm not going to install anything critical on it. | 05:50 |
| lotuspsychje | Phoenixxl: can still breakage | 05:50 |
| lotuspsychje | Phoenixxl: safest way would be 14.04 ==> 16.04 on final release | 05:50 |
| lotuspsychje | Phoenixxl: or clean install 16.04 on final | 05:51 |
| Phoenixxl | I can also simply wait a month .. | 05:51 |
| lotuspsychje | Phoenixxl: but if you wanna help testing, be our guest mate | 05:51 |
| Phoenixxl | I don't want to end up doing twice the work | 05:51 |
| lotuspsychje | we always need bugging out | 05:51 |
| Phoenixxl | I might do that ... | 05:52 |
| lotuspsychje | might be nice to know if all your services work | 05:52 |
| lotuspsychje | if not quick bug before release | 05:52 |
| lotuspsychje | !bug | 05:52 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 05:52 |
| Phoenixxl | I've installed it and noticed the belgian keyboard detaction still isn't fixed.. it crept up after release 12 | 05:52 |
| Phoenixxl | I put in a bug report with 14 but it still hasn't been fixed | 05:53 |
| lotuspsychje | Phoenixxl: i have .be also, but im on desktop here | 05:53 |
| lotuspsychje | Phoenixxl: make a new one for 16.04 please, it might get new attention | 05:53 |
| Phoenixxl | I'll do that. | 05:53 |
| lotuspsychje | great thank you | 05:53 |
| Phoenixxl | it was fine in 12 | 05:53 |
| Phoenixxl | yw | 05:53 |
| lotuspsychje | you can mention the whole story, wich versions worked and not | 05:54 |
| Phoenixxl | I'll do that right now. | 05:54 |
| lotuspsychje | nice | 05:54 |
| lotuspsychje | Phoenixxl: but make sure you test this on a fresh 16.04 right | 05:54 |
| lotuspsychje | Phoenixxl: upgrades from previous can still get too messy | 05:55 |
| Phoenixxl | I did an install in a fresh vm 2 days ago that's where i noticed it | 05:55 |
| lotuspsychje | ok great | 05:55 |
| Phoenixxl | lotuspsychje, I hit the same snag as last time when I tried to report it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/1358596 | 06:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1358596 in console-setup (Ubuntu) "The new keyboard detection routine when installing ubuntu server 14.04 does not find a Belgian keyboard any more. the previous one did." [Undecided,New] | 06:27 |
| Phoenixxl | I have no idea what the program is called | 06:27 |
| Phoenixxl | searching for keyboard detection generally come sup with reconfigure console / keyboard answers | 06:28 |
| Phoenixxl | since I'n sure the detection routine is never installed with the OS | 06:28 |
| Phoenixxl | I'm in an installer busybox shell now , looking for the ubuntu server install script now. maybe i can extrapolate from there when i find it. if it even is a script | 06:31 |
| Phoenixxl | I'll have another fresh look tomorrow. My morning free time is over . thnx again for the earlier feedback lotuspsychje | 06:43 |
| soupnanodesukar | what's the qt5 lib version in xenial? I'd ask ubottu, but its wiki is down. | 07:12 |
| lotuspsychje | !info qt5 xenial | 07:35 |
| ubottu | Package qt5 does not exist in xenial | 07:35 |
| lotuspsychje | !find qt5 | 07:35 |
| ubottu | Found: appmenu-qt5, fcitx-frontend-qt5, libaccounts-qt5-1, libaccounts-qt5-dev, libdbusmenu-qt5, libdbusmenu-qt5-dev, libdbusmenu-qt5-doc, libdee-qt5-3, libdee-qt5-dev, libfcitx-qt5-1 (and 254 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=qt5&searchon=names&suite=xenial§ion=all | 07:35 |
| soupnanodesukar | !info libqt5gui5 | 07:57 |
| ubottu | libqt5gui5 (source: qtbase-opensource-src): Qt 5 GUI module. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5.1+dfsg-15ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 2392 kB, installed size 14709 kB | 07:57 |
| soupnanodesukar | ok, thanks | 07:57 |
| jonascj | Hibernate and suspend in Ubuntu 16 without root privileges, can that be done with systemd? | 08:45 |
| jonascj | The old "dbus-send --system --print-reply \ --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" \ /org/freedesktop/UPower \ org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate" seem to no longer work | 08:45 |
| jonascj | /join #linux | 09:47 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:49 |
| Ian_Corne | updating from 14.04 to 16.04, ofcource I forget to do the update process in a TTY + tmux session, x crashes | 10:26 |
| Ian_Corne | :p | 10:26 |
| Ian_Corne | who was the person with the UTC issues? | 10:28 |
| Ian_Corne | having kde installed on the system as well, was not a good idea | 10:45 |
| Ian_Corne | dependency issues during update | 10:45 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:51 |
| steve_fi | hey, I did some updates to my machine running Xenial today and I'm pretty sure Compiz is b0rked ... I log in and "see" my desktop, but I don't see the unity side bar and the gnome bar at the top. | 13:57 |
| steve_fi | at first, it removed my nvidia-361 drivers package and used Nouveau after the first reboot, however, I reinstalled the drivers and rebooted again and I've been stuck with the same issue | 13:58 |
| steve_fi | I can install MATE and Gnome and use those absolutely fine though | 13:58 |
| steve_fi | I have an output of my Syslog here: https://paste.ee/p/dstdE | 13:58 |
| steve_fi | I've checked all my logs, including the Xorg one and they all seem OK, no errors that I can see | 13:59 |
| steve_fi | I can see all 4 of my desktop icons and I can launch things, but I cannot move the windows and I'm also certain none of the keyboard shortcuts work | 14:02 |
| lotuspsychje | steve_fi: did you upgrade from a previous version? | 14:08 |
| steve_fi | lotuspsychje, Yeah, it's been upgraded from every version since 11.10 | 14:09 |
| lotuspsychje | steve_fi: its not recommended yet to upgarde, install fresh to test and bug | 14:09 |
| lotuspsychje | steve_fi: we need to be sure its not a weird leftover before we start file a bug | 14:11 |
| steve_fi | lotuspsychje, Yeah, I upgraded it to fix another problem I had with 15.10. In all honesty, I don't mind reinstalling, it's just that if it's a bug, I'd rather report it | 14:11 |
| lotuspsychje | steve_fi: yeah, you would help the community out this way | 14:11 |
| lotuspsychje | steve_fi: so in april, we have a clean 16.04 | 14:12 |
| lotuspsychje | steve_fi: i would testout some different drivers on a clean 16.04 and see what happens | 14:13 |
| lotuspsychje | steve_fi: your card is optimus? | 14:14 |
| steve_fi | lotuspsychje, ok, I'll give that a go. I have a spare SSD which I can use anyway | 14:14 |
| steve_fi | lotuspsychje, no, it's a GTX 680 | 14:14 |
| lotuspsychje | ok great, good luck mate | 14:14 |
| lotuspsychje | steve_fi: xenial working like a charm on my desktop here | 14:14 |
| steve_fi | lotuspsychje, are you using the nvidia 361 series drivers? | 14:16 |
| lotuspsychje | no, ati here | 14:16 |
| lotuspsychje | steve_fi: you could try 361-updates too | 14:17 |
| steve_fi | Yeah, that's what I have installed now | 14:17 |
| lotuspsychje | ok then go for fresh :p | 14:17 |
| steve_fi | thanks for the help lotuspsychje :) | 14:18 |
| lotuspsychje | no sweat | 14:19 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-recommends-open-source-amdgpu-and-radeon-drivers-for-ubuntu-16-04-lts-501556.shtml | 14:40 |
| belgianguy | lotuspsychje: I see :) thanks! I'll have a look | 14:40 |
| k1l_ | k1l_> belgianguy: amd itself is swithcing von fglrx to amdgpu <k1l_> ubuntu is just the first linux to ship the new xorg-server version that will not get any fglrx. | 14:41 |
| k1l_ | i dont know why everyone is writing ubuntu is dropping support. amd dropped support in the first place. its not like ubuntu got a chance there | 14:41 |
| belgianguy | k1l_: true, I don't see it as a bad thing though, amdgpu seems a lot healthier and oriented towards open-source than fglrx ever was | 14:42 |
| belgianguy | and tbh fglrx could be a pain at times | 14:42 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: there is also #gamingonlinux to chitchat about latest stuff if you like | 14:43 |
| belgianguy | What I don't know is that if amdgpu is just a renamed fglrx, or a totally different beast | 14:43 |
| lordievader | k1l_: Sensation writing, probably. | 14:43 |
| k1l_ | belgianguy: its a different beast. and open source, iirc. | 14:43 |
| k1l_ | fglrx is just a black box that amd was kind enough to give to linux users | 14:44 |
| belgianguy | k1l_: ah I see, and the Vulkan part is yet another component then, not included by default? | 14:44 |
| belgianguy | k1l_: fglrx has served me well :) I've only had to drop to root shell a few times because the installer stopped midway | 14:45 |
| belgianguy | then again, those were good learning experiences | 14:45 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: can this help? http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-to-ship-with-full-support-for-vulkan-in-mir-display-server-500543.shtml | 14:45 |
| belgianguy | lotuspsychje: thanks :) I don't have that many games on Steam yet, but I'm saving up for a few | 14:46 |
| belgianguy | lotuspsychje: that looks like a great resource from the title alone | 14:46 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: well your on your own, to seperate facts and sensations :p | 14:47 |
| belgianguy | lotuspsychje: yeah, I'm informing myself :p and I have a pretty good understanding of what's about to happen | 14:48 |
| belgianguy | it's just that I need to know for sure, as the graphics stack of this machine (HP EliteBook) has been quite nefarious in the past | 14:49 |
| lotuspsychje | hey MonkeyDust | 14:50 |
| MonkeyDust | lotuspsychje | 14:50 |
| MonkeyDust | one failed 16.04 install, after i copied backup/etc/ to /etc/ | 14:50 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: you might wanna wait until final perhaps to install | 14:50 |
| belgianguy | yeah, this machine has quite outgrown the "just do things nature" and is now the daily driver, might be wise to sit it out for some time | 14:51 |
| belgianguy | and look up reviews or news about supported hardware | 14:52 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: not very recommended as daily driver yet, things can still break right | 14:53 |
| belgianguy | lotuspsychje: yeah, I understand, I should know better, but I'm also very curious :p | 14:54 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: no sweat :p | 14:54 |
| belgianguy | Anyone knows Canonical's stance on control, privacy and respect of the OS it's offering? In light of the actions of competitors as of recent, it could be a big boon. | 14:57 |
| MonkeyDust | cannot change terminal's tab title yet | 14:58 |
| MonkeyDust | and cannot set a background image in terminal | 14:58 |
| belgianguy | while there's also been talk about Convergence, I don't see it as having immedeate influence, contre as those factors mentioned above | 14:58 |
| belgianguy | contrary* | 14:59 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/privacy-policy | 14:59 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: 16.04 will remove online search from dash too | 15:01 |
| lotuspsychje | MonkeyDust: how did you install exactly? | 15:01 |
| belgianguy | lotuspsychje: ah, that's good news, I often got attacked on that online search point, didn't do much good in hindsight (a lot of "spyware, they do it too" arguments) | 15:03 |
| MonkeyDust | lotuspsychje usb, fresh install, had backupped /home/ and /etc/ ... separate /home/ partition ... all ok ... recovered /etc/ and X fails after that | 15:03 |
| lotuspsychje | MonkeyDust: the /etc was also xenial before? | 15:04 |
| MonkeyDust | no | 15:04 |
| MonkeyDust | 14.04 trusty | 15:04 |
| lotuspsychje | MonkeyDust: think that might corrupted | 15:04 |
| lotuspsychje | xenial not ready to upgrade from trusty | 15:04 |
| MonkeyDust | works now... break+repair=best | 15:04 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 15:04 |
| MonkeyDust | :) | 15:05 |
| lotuspsychje | how did you fix | 15:05 |
| MonkeyDust | reinstall again, left /etc/ alone ... only /etc/squid3/ is recovered ... all fine | 15:05 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: we dont look at it as 'spyware' the user could disabled it | 15:05 |
| MonkeyDust | if you know it's there, it's not spyware | 15:06 |
| lotuspsychje | +1 | 15:06 |
| belgianguy | I know, I never turned mine off, it's ok, it's just wrt Windows 10 being so aggressive and forced as of late, I often recommend people to give Ubuntu a fair shake | 15:09 |
| lotuspsychje | and we will takeover the world :p | 15:09 |
| belgianguy | lotuspsychje: and Mars, too. | 15:10 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: not sure my eth cable reaches to it :p | 15:10 |
| belgianguy | lotuspsychje: not mentioning what bad pings you'd get in multiplayer :p | 15:11 |
| belgianguy | but I really do think a lot of people could be helped by Ubuntu, and if a company is doing its darndest to scare them away, I hope they could land again on Ubuntu | 15:12 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: alot of users landing already on ubuntu | 15:13 |
| belgianguy | lotuspsychje: great to hear! | 15:14 |
| lotuspsychje | belgianguy: and 16.04 release will be huge for sure | 15:14 |
| belgianguy | lotuspsychje: yeah, great times ahead | 15:17 |
| lotuspsychje | indeed | 15:17 |
| MonkeyDust | that was one 'yes' too many | 15:36 |
| PtrPiotr | hi, I want to see 16.4 with snappy. I downloaded iso for 16.4 beta, but it seems it uses deb packages; Is it possible to get snappy version? | 15:53 |
| varaindemian | do you guys recommand using do-release-upgrade while I am on 14.04 lts? | 16:10 |
| flocculant | some might - I wouldn't | 16:16 |
| flocculant | whether you'd get hit by similar bugs to ones they're seeing in -desktop I don't know, but you might | 16:17 |
| flocculant | not tried that personally - but update-manager -d is crashing half way | 16:19 |
| MonkeyDust | varaindemian do-release upgrade will not work, you have to wait until 16.04.1 is released | 16:37 |
| varaindemian | MonkeyDust, so do-release upgrade -d will upgrade to 15.10? | 16:45 |
| varaindemian | or to the beta version? | 16:45 |
| BluesKaj | varaindemian, no -d won't upgrade to 15.10 since it's not a devel OS | 16:49 |
| varaindemian | BluesKaj, so it will upgrade to 16.04 beta | 16:49 |
| BluesKaj | yes , but since there are so many kde/plasma changes between 14.04 and 16.04 it might be messy | 16:51 |
| BluesKaj | if you have a /home partition and choose to keep it | 16:51 |
| BluesKaj | with a clean install | 16:52 |
| BluesKaj | do-release-upgrade -d will probly take a long time ...haven't tried it myself | 16:53 |
| Mia | Hey all | 16:54 |
| Mia | does unity have crasking problems in xenial | 16:54 |
| Mia | mine just crashed and even after reeboot it fails to restart | 16:54 |
| steve_fi | Hi Mia, I had a similar problem today and I've had to log in with the Gnome Fallback mode for now | 16:55 |
| BluesKaj | varaindemian, recommend a clean install if you want 16.04 at this point | 16:55 |
| Mia | steve_fi, oh okay | 16:55 |
| Mia | so maybe I should switch back to 15.10 for now | 16:56 |
| Mia | or mayb even 14.04 | 16:56 |
| steve_fi | Mia, I'm going to try reinstalling later to see if it's a legacy problem that I have. However, if you have no problems with 15.10 or 14.04, then it might be better to switch back for now | 16:57 |
| Mia | 15.10 is problem-free as well ? | 16:58 |
| Mia | is there any benefit of using 14.04 over 15.10 | 16:58 |
| steve_fi | It should be | 16:58 |
| MonkeyDust | my background went black in unuty, couldnt click anything ... was solved after waitging 2 minutes | 16:58 |
| Mia | MonkeyDust, bor my case it's eactly the opposite | 16:59 |
| MonkeyDust | Mia 14.04 is longer supported | 16:59 |
| Mia | background was there, everything else vanished | 16:59 |
| Mia | and hwne I rebooted I saw the top menu for a second, than it vanished again | 16:59 |
| steve_fi | That's the problem that I had Mia | 16:59 |
| MonkeyDust | Mia in 16.04? then you know it's unstable | 16:59 |
| Mia | when I do ctrl alt t and type unity, if fails to start | 16:59 |
| Mia | yes 16.04 | 16:59 |
| Mia | yeah I think I'll go back to a stabl release | 16:59 |
| Mia | I thought 16.04 was unity 8 anyway | 17:00 |
| Mia | that was the reason I wanted to test it out | 17:00 |
| steve_fi | If there's multiple people affected by the problem and you can live with the Fallback mode for a few days, it might get fixed relatively quickly | 17:01 |
| Mia | steve_fi, how do you go back to fallback mode | 17:02 |
| steve_fi | At the login screen, where you type your password, there should be a little Ubuntu icon. You can select what session you log into. I have one that said something along the lines of "Gnome Fallback (compiz)" | 17:03 |
| steve_fi | once you've selected it, you can type your password and login | 17:04 |
| steve_fi | if it's not there, you can get to the terminal by hitting ctrl + alt + f1 and then doing "sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback" | 17:07 |
| steve_fi | and once you reboot, it should be there | 17:07 |
| Mia | thanks steve_fi | 17:12 |
| steve_fi | no problem Mia :) | 17:13 |
| salamanderrake | I messed up the other day and tried to intall kubuntu-full(or complete or what ever) and set sddm as default login, now I fixed my system but I can't add lightdm to the default runlevel | 17:26 |
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| ChibaPet | salamanderrake: I don't think you want runlevels. This is a brave new world with bad software driving the car, and you want systemctl set-default graphical.target | 18:23 |
| salamanderrake | oh ok thanks | 18:23 |
| ChibaPet | The other thing that might be useful (dunno) is dpkg-reconfigure lightdm | 18:24 |
| salamanderrake | I will try it now. | 18:25 |
| ChibaPet | It should invoke the horrid update-alternatives scripting to select lightdm instead of kdm, if I'm reading scrollback correctly. | 18:25 |
| jushur | salamanderrake: you dont set it to runlevel? you just disable kdm and enables lightdm? | 18:55 |
| salamanderrake | Why do I need Nvidia prime installed | 19:14 |
| salamanderrake | And x complaining about Nvidia version mismatch | 19:16 |
| salamanderrake | EE failed to load module Nvidia module requirements mismatch | 19:18 |
| salamanderrake | EE open /dev/dri/card0 no such file or directory | 19:22 |
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| salamanderrake | OK drivers from ppa were outdated, x was updated now desktop is only picture of background | 19:33 |
| salamanderrake | No metacity but it works in guest login | 19:35 |
| salamanderrake | Alt-F2 does not even work | 19:36 |
| MonkeyDust | printscreen doenst work either | 19:38 |
| salamanderrake | Nope | 19:39 |
| salamanderrake | Nothing | 19:39 |
| salamanderrake | ok, I was able to right click start a terminal on the desktop | 19:40 |
| salamanderrake | no borders on the terminal or quassel-client | 19:40 |
| salamanderrake | what is the default window manager on ubuntu? | 19:44 |
| salamanderrake | oh, and google-chrome has a border that I can move around. | 19:45 |
| salamanderrake | I think I may have fixed it, not sure yet | 19:54 |
| marchesini | hey guys, i get a error when i try install the kubuntu-desktop inside the ubuntu 16.04. i think some package is broken, i try "apt-get install -f" and get this out-put http://paste.ubuntu.com/15367822/ | 23:51 |
| marchesini | i don't want install the kubuntu now, because my computer a x86 don't have the resources to run, but i can't install any application after this. how i can repair this error? | 23:52 |
| marchesini | i mean, how command i run to rollback this installation? and purge the kubuntu-desktop | 23:54 |
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