[00:18] <caligariano> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows how to make indicator-session work in Xubuntu? I think is a cool extension and looks very nice.
[12:04] <dkessel> flocculant: i guess there is a bug for "gnome-software does not show up in whiskermenu" already?
[12:06] <flocculant> dkessel: shows in live and installed - seems to have got lost in upgraded systems
[12:06] <flocculant> so I'd not report it to be honest 
[12:06] <bluesabre> seems so weird
[12:06] <flocculant> bluesabre: hey there :)
[12:07] <dkessel> it is there in my "upgraded some months ago" install...
[12:07] <flocculant> dkessel: not in mine
[12:07] <dkessel> also: good day :)
[12:07] <bluesabre> hey guys
[12:07] <flocculant> dkessel: yea - hi there :p
[12:08] <flocculant> oh 
[12:08] <flocculant> mmm
[12:08] <flocculant> it's turned up
[12:09] <flocculant> wish I'd looked before I hid it and unhid it ... 
[12:09] <bluesabre> :D
[12:10] <flocculant> so then
[12:10] <flocculant> dkessel: it's not a bug - I see it in live, clean installs and this random upgraded thing :D
[12:10] <bluesabre> sideloaded a .deb with gnome-software yesterday, surprised that it worked
[12:22] <flocculant> oh good 
[12:22] <flocculant> last time I tried that - fail ... 
[16:31] <pavlushka> Hi every1!
[16:36] <pavlushka> flocculant, filed two bugs, go mark it as duplicate, :|
[16:58] <krytarik> pavlushka: You might want to give this a better read, ftm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage :)
[17:00] <pavlushka> krytarik, I have no idea about the package, so I selected "I dont know" but it auto marked it as "ubuntu-docs"
[17:00] <krytarik> xubuntu-docs, actually.
[17:01] <pavlushka> ya, krytarik, but I tried to search with my guess, got unlucky.
[17:02] <pavlushka> krytarik, have u changed it to the right package?, in that way I can have some idea.
[17:03] <krytarik> Also, reg. LP bug 1556433, is it actually booting during that time, or is it stuck before that?
[17:03] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1556433 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Booting is taking too long to start from grub" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1556433
[17:05] <pavlushka>  I changed grub to no splash so I can see the logs, ya, it was stuck before that.
[17:06] <pavlushka> krytarik, is the issue is about boot-systemd??
[17:10] <krytarik> So nothing happens during that time at all?  Also, LP bug 1556438 would be xfce4-settings.
[17:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1556438 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Can't set my external display as primary" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1556438
[17:12] <pavlushka> krytarik, like to add, after the boot started, it loaded much quicker than Ubuntu, there is a chance that the logs were stuck and appeared all at a time.
[17:13] <krytarik> Yes, that's something different than not booting.
[17:13] <pavlushka> krytarik, thanks for pointing the bug package topic
[17:13] <pavlushka> krytarik, I am not sure. Are you?
[17:15] <pavlushka> I should add it to the bug comment.
[17:17] <krytarik> Depending on how the exact behavior is (logs?), it'd be grub2, linux, or systemd anyway.
[17:18] <pavlushka> krytarik, may be.
[17:25] <krytarik> pavlushka: To add some useful system information to the display settings bug report, try running "ubuntu-bug -u 1556438" on the affected system.
[17:26] <krytarik> (Usually, you'd have run "ubuntu-bug xfce4-settings" in the first place.)
[17:29] <pavlushka> krytarik, first place thing done.
[17:35] <krytarik> Huh?  Well, you already reported the bug, so now you can only amend it - with the first command, for example.  Also, please have a look at the tag stuff here: http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/qa-bugs.html#qa-bugs-tags
[17:36] <pavlushka> krytarik, One more thing, the alt+~ key is not working for same group of windows.
[17:39] <pavlushka> krytarik, knock, knock.
[17:40] <krytarik> Yes?
[17:41] <pavlushka> krytarik, noticed the thing?  the alt+~ key is not working for same group of windows.
[17:45] <krytarik> pavlushka: The default keyboard shortcut for that is Super + Tab in Xubuntu - but, you can change that in "Window Manager → Keyboard".
[17:47] <pavlushka> krytarik, thanks, I didn't know that, I use ubuntu, just volunteering Xubuntu testing, but I might get stuck with it for it being light.
[17:47] <pavlushka> krytarik, but tell me one thing please, which one is lighter? Lubuntu or Xubuntu?
[17:48] <krytarik> Btw, since it's currently only us two talking here, no need to ping every time. :P
[17:48] <krytarik> Lubuntu.
[17:49] <krytarik> But at a cost, of course.
[17:49] <pavlushka> I didn't know that its called ping, the addressing thing. got it.
[17:50] <pavlushka> what cost,?
[17:52] <pavlushka> pinging krytarik, what cost Lubuntu paid for being light?
[17:53] <krytarik> It's actually *you* paying it. :D
[17:54] <krytarik> In the sense of features, and easeness of configuration, for example.
[17:55] <krytarik> But that's off topic for here.
[17:55] <pavlushka> So,Lubuntu has less features and less configurable?
[17:55] <krytarik> I didn't say the latter.
[17:56] <pavlushka> "easeness of configuration" indicates what then?
[17:56] <krytarik> Having to edit text files to change settings, for example.
[17:57] <pavlushka> not bad, like that!!!
[17:57] <krytarik> lol
[17:57]  * krytarik too
[17:58]  * pavlushka text based conf feels easier to me
[20:06] <dkessel> struggling with a translation here - what is the long term for "canonical IS" ?
[20:06] <dkessel> i.e. - what is the long form of "IS"?
[20:38] <MagicSponge> information systems ?
[20:39] <ochosi> flocculant: so it worked for you with a different templates folder?
[20:39] <ochosi> i guess in that case we could add those templates and then wait for translations
[20:41] <ochosi> bluesabre: any thoughts on the above? i'd actually just add empty files that match the pattern, e.g. "touch Templates/LibreOffice.ttt". i guess for translating that string we would have to add a first-run startup script or something..
[22:29] <bluesabre> ochosi: not been keeping up
[23:56] <knome> dkessel, "Internet Services", i guess
[23:57] <knome> dkessel, if it's in the docs, i would just refer to it as "Canonical IS"