[00:00] <k1l_> ouroumov: didnt experience that
[00:03] <vdevnull> k1l_ Sorry i'm new to ubuntu, I've fresh installation. Now if i have dir i own. What group it's belong to? My username or what exactly
[00:03] <vdevnull> like user:group group would be my name too?
[00:04] <k1l_> vdevnull: every user has a group of its own name, too.
[00:05] <k1l_> vdevnull: but if you put your user into the www-data group, then relogin, then you can make changes to the /var/www/ folders
[00:06] <vdevnull> k1l_ That was my bad. i wanted to start some stuff. and i've added www-data to /var/www but i just replaced it now..
[00:06] <vdevnull> I had too much permission problems stuff
[00:06] <vdevnull> seems solved when i've added my user
[00:09] <vdevnull> k1l_ Thanks for helping <3.
[00:09] <vdevnull> !cookie k1l_
[00:09] <vdevnull> k1l_ !cookie
[00:10] <k1l_> thx :)
[00:11] <ouroumov> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/Vi75bisi
[00:14] <k1l_> ouroumov: the issue is, that with a relogin it would actually work properly (you dont relogin there since the old user session is still running in background). newgrp handles that
[00:15] <ouroumov> hm
[00:17] <ouroumov> Oh, indeed it works. Thanks k1l_. There must be some underlying mechanism I didn't know about.
[00:18] <k1l_> ouroumov: yeah, its not that intuitive. there is a lot of historical design failures :)
[00:19] <ouroumov> Oh, and it even kept the correct owner after I edited the file, neat.
[00:37] <bray90820> How would I ln the contents of a directory
[00:40] <pat_> what do you mean the contents?
[00:52] <omglolbah> Running 14.04 I upgraded samba (was part of the usual lump of stuff to apt-get upgrade) and after the upgrade the samba performance from my win7 machine has slowed to a crawl
[00:53] <omglolbah> 5+ second to open a directory, unable to even stream small media-files from the share. I have dug around for solutions but found none, any tips on how to figureo ut what is wrong?
[01:05] <RainMan28> Does anyone know why the included certificates in /etc/ssl/certs would be different in the same version of Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS? Thawte_Premium_Server_CA.pem is on one install and not included in another one, only a few weeks apart.
[01:06] <ddd> does ubuntu have support for quad cpu motherboards
[01:07] <k1l_> ddd: if the kernel supports it
[01:12] <bekks> ddd: "Yes".
[01:12] <bekks> ddd: Unless you are using an outdated non-SMP kernel, the answer is "yes".
[01:17] <metrixx> what is the command to list available packages from a specific repository?
[01:23] <Mia> general questin (feel free to direct me to any other channel, #linux seems to be invite only) --- what desktop environment is the most macos-like ?
[01:24] <subz3r0> no1 cares about crapos
[01:24] <bekks> Mia: By default, none is - but you can customize all of them.
[01:24] <bekks> subz3r0: noone cares about pointless comments as well.
[01:24] <Mia> bekks, I've tried gnome and unity so far, they're not as customisable as I thought they'd be
[01:25] <subz3r0> bekks: ohh :(
[01:25] <lapyo> how about xfce, openbox?
[01:25] <bekks> Mia: The main question is what you want to achieve actually.
[01:25] <lapyo> unity is the worst option ever
[01:25] <squinty> Mia, ##linux
[01:25] <bekks> Mia: "look-a-like"?
[01:25] <Mia> bekks, a minimal os
[01:25] <Mia> well not a look alike, I'm not looking for a classical max-os lookalike with dash and such
[01:25] <lapyo> puppy linux maybe?
[01:25] <bekks> Mia: a minimal os has no desktop env, but a CLI only ;)
[01:25] <Mia> I just like minimal interfaces with as less things as possible
[01:26] <Mia> unity is close to it but I don2t like the whole launcher idea
[01:26] <lapyo> there's a OS X style ubuntu-based distro tho
[01:26] <Mia> it feels like a toy and I can't customize hotw it looks (decorations, mainly)
[01:26] <Mia> bekks, well aesthetically, minimal :) not functionally
[01:27] <lapyo> openbox
[01:27] <amateur> well, you could check Elementary
[01:27] <lapyo> or any twm
[01:27] <ddd> gnome
[01:27] <lapyo> gnome sucks ass
[01:27] <bekks> Mia: maybe you should get familiar with the idea that a look-a-like isnt targetting, but the usability of a desktop environment is vital.
[01:27] <lapyo> mate might be a good option
[01:27] <ddd> mate uses gnome2
[01:27] <Mia> I agree bekks but aesthetic decisions should be made by the user, at leat
[01:28] <Mia> for instance the main thing that kille me with unity interface is the secondary outline that occurs when you click at the launcher
[01:28] <Mia> aroudn the search box (not sure if it's called that)
[01:28] <Mia> and it's not centered it's killing my ocd
[01:28] <bekks> Mia: yeah, but aesthetics arent compared to usability.
[01:28] <Mia> in a way they do
[01:28] <amateur> do you know about unity tweak tool?
[01:28] <bekks> Mia: I dont care how an icon looks like, if it does what it should do.
[01:29] <amateur> it lets you do lots of nice things
[01:29] <digit01> Hello
[01:29] <Mia> i disagree, as a designer. the way something "looks" communicates
[01:29] <k1l_> Mia: look at xubuntu which uses the xfce desktop. you can install it with xubuntu-desktop package
[01:29] <Mia> and it's vitally important
[01:29] <Mia> k1l_, thanks, will check!
[01:30] <bekks> Mia: As a user, on various platforms, I strongly disagree that look > function.
[01:30] <Mia> it's not bigger than
[01:30] <Mia> it's a part of the function
[01:30] <bekks> Nope, it isnt, entirely.
[01:30] <lapyo> I'd say xfce
[01:30] <Mia> interface reveals functioni they can't do without each other
[01:30] <ddd> use terminal
[01:30] <Mia> haha :D
[01:30] <lapyo> unity must be the worst option out there
[01:30] <digit01> #j
[01:31] <amateur> but the design of a product is very much related to it's usability
[01:31] <Mia> lapyo, in terms of what
[01:31] <lapyo> cli > everything else tho ":D"
[01:31] <bekks> As long as that shiny welp icon starts my filemanager, and I do know that "welp" will do that, I dont care about it.
[01:31] <amateur> and I agree, most linux distros don't look that well
[01:31] <Mia> amateur, I completely agree, at least, ideally that's how it should be
[01:31] <ddd> kde is best looking de
[01:31] <mrlemke> xfce is excellent if you are interested in a minimal interface. it's what i prefer to use if i'm not using gnome3/unity (which is pretty minimal imo).
[01:31] <lapyo> Mia: botnet, buggy, ugly, unstable, it requires way too much RAM/processing power
[01:31] <Mia> amateur, well it's not about the looks, it's about the decisions. Sometimes decorations are too much, it feels like "I like it this way" type of dsign making
[01:32] <k1l_> can we put the "but i think my desktop is the best in the world" talks to #ubuntu-offtopic ? thanks
[01:32] <Mia> I dont like "i like it this way" type of design, I like "this works" type of design
[01:32] <Mia> k1l_, maybe a bit offtoic you're right -
[01:32] <Mia> anyway I'm shutting up, thanks!
[01:32] <lapyo> but 2bqh this isn't about "my desktop is the best" conversation
[01:33] <ddd> lxde
[01:39] <Louis11> Upgrading from 14.04 -> 15.10. Things seemed to be going well, but now I am on what appears to be a terminal screen that just says "* Starting Bridge file events into upstar   [OK]"
[01:39] <Louis11> and that's it... Been this way for abou 5-10min. Normal for an upgrade process?
[01:39] <bekks> Louis11: Did you upgrade 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10, facing the fact that 14.10 and 15.04 are EOL already?
[01:40] <Louis11> bekks: I did not...
[01:40] <Louis11> presumably this is bad... ugh.
[01:40] <Louis11> Well, I just upgraded to w/e my software center told me to
[01:40] <bekks> Louis11: Then you are going an unsupported upgrade path.
[01:40] <bekks> Louis11: the software center did not tell you that :P
[01:41] <Louis11> I might have my verions wrong
[01:41] <Louis11> But I went through the software center
[01:41] <Louis11> I figured it was the most fail proof way
[01:41] <bekks> Louis11: So which version did you have, and which version you are upgrading to?
[01:41] <deshi> i am having a problem with some tcl stuff whenever i apt get tclx8.4 it also grabs tcl8.6 which is causing problems with my irc eggdrop is there a way to not have apt install the tcl8.6 package?
[01:41] <ddd> apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:41] <Louis11> I believe 14.04
[01:41] <ddd> Prompt=normal
[01:41] <bekks> ddd: that will not update releases.
[01:42] <Louis11> Whatever software center said was new is what I'm upgrading to
[01:42] <Louis11> (i can't get into ubuntu to check...)
[01:42] <Louis11> I guess the question now is, should I wait it out, or is it OK to try and force a reboot?
[01:43] <Louis11> I think it was just about at the "reboot" step...
[01:43] <bekks> Louis11: the main question now is, do you have a 15.10 install medium for reinstalling?
[01:43] <Louis11> I mean, I can make a usb, that's not a big deal
[01:43] <Louis11> I had a ZFS setup, is there anyway to preserve that if I do a clean install?
[01:43] <bekks> Louis11: thats the fastest way to get a usable system.
[01:43] <bekks> zfs as well, ouch.
[01:43] <Louis11> (not on my main drives, I'm installing to a separate ssd)
[01:44] <Louis11> yea it's not that important, I have backups for everything
[01:44] <coolty> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me write a bash script or profile script that would automatically take an input from xinput --list and then run xinput map-to-output [ID] CRT1 based on the name of the input. since the ID changes with every reboot?
[01:44] <coolty> but the name stays the same
[01:44] <Louis11> so what's the latest version of Ubuntu? 15.10?
[01:45] <bekks> Louis11: current versions are 14.04 LTS and 15.10
[01:45] <Louis11> Yea, I think I had 14.04
[01:45] <Louis11> I just rebooted the machine... it was obviously frozen. Looks like it's maybe booting up...
[01:45] <bekks> Louis11: there is no direct upgrade path to 15.10 then.
[01:46] <Louis11> Out of curiosity, why is that?
[01:47] <bekks> because those updates arent supported. Either you upgrade LTS to LTS, or you upgrade every release in between.
[01:47] <Louis11> Yea, I might have my verions incorrect... I know I had 14 something, but can't remember. I thought I had an LTS version
[01:48] <Louis11> oh well, i'll see if I can boot up, otherwise i'll just try a fresh install
[01:48] <bekks> Louis11: then you could upgrade to 14.10 only, which is EOL.
[01:48] <Louis11> Ah, I must be incorrect about which version I had...
[01:50] <Louis11> Er, looks like bootup is waiting for network interfaces. "A start job is running for LSB: Raise network interfaces" at 5min now... anyway to force it to continue?
[01:50] <Mia> is it possible/logical to install unity8 on 15.10
[01:50] <Louis11> nvm... timedout...
[01:51] <Louis11> looks like it booted into Ubuntu 15.10
[01:51] <amateur> Mia: http://news.softpedia.com/news/how-to-install-unity-8-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts-and-ubuntu-15-10-496949.shtml
[01:52] <Mia> oh neat, amateur !
[01:52] <Mia> does this have any risk involved ?
[01:52] <Mia> like breaking up the current system and such
[01:52] <amateur> haven't tried it, but yes that's always possible
[01:52] <xangua> Yes
[01:53] <Mia> hm
[01:53] <xangua> Mia: you were told several times it's a preview, it's in alpha stage
[01:53] <Mia> xangua, I was asking about 16.04 before
[01:54] <Mia> now I just want to install unity8 on 15.10 -- if it's possible to do it for testing without risking the current system
[01:54] <Mia> as an alternative to the current ui/shell/whatever
[01:54] <amateur> well
[01:54] <amateur> considering how stable the stable unity is, i really wouldn't go wiht the unstable version
[01:54] <Mia> :D
[01:54] <Mia> okay thanks
[01:55] <amateur> it should come out in a month though
[01:56] <amateur> not sure
[01:56] <amateur> maybe they won't release it with 16.04
[02:02] <ddd> 4321
[02:02] <ddd> 1234
[02:02] <ddd> 3214
[02:02] <energizer> I screwed up making a simple crontab entry and now crontab is using 6% of my CPU and I dont know how to fix it ahh
[02:04] <energizer> I added to crontab -e "0 6 * * * pkill caffeine && caffeine && notify-send "Killed caffeine""
[02:04] <energizer> But now when I look in crontab -e there is nothing there
[02:04] <lapyo> why would you use "&&"
[02:04] <k1l_> Mia: unity8 is not daily use ready on desktop. its used on phone and tablets so far and 16.05 will still use unity7 and xorg
[02:05] <k1l_> lapyo: because it makes sense
[02:05] <energizer> lapyo: I thought that's what you do if you want to execute subsequent commands onyl after succesful execution of prior commands
[02:05] <k1l_> lapyo: && only runs if the previews command doesnt bring an error
[02:05] <lapyo> ";" would be better imho, also another script for another command perhaps
[02:05] <Mia> hmm I see
[02:05] <Mia> okay thanks k1l_
[02:05] <k1l_> lapyo: no, its not. if its not killed it doesnt make sense to start again
[02:06] <energizer> Anyway, now i dont see anything in crontab -e, but crontab process is using hella CPU
[02:06] <k1l_> Mia: see this for testing unity8 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC
[02:06] <lapyo> k1l_: well that's true, but imo using ";" with crontab would make more sense, since it's automatic
[02:09] <dejavou42> I have a static IP set in the gnome network-manager, about once every 8 hours, I find that my box has changed IP addresses on the network. I have managed to find entries in syslog when this happens, but I can't figure out why this is happening
[02:09] <dejavou42> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15369156/
[02:11] <dejavou42> ip addr
[02:11] <dejavou42> sorry wrong window
[02:11] <k1l_> dejavou42: because its using dhcp to get the ip
[02:12] <dejavou42> yes, I can see that the ubuntu box is requesting a dhcp address, but that doesn't make since when a static address is assigned in gnome network-manager
[02:12] <energizer> k1l_: dejavou42: correct me if im wrong, but i think in this situation you might have to set the router to give that computer a static ip too?
[02:13] <dejavou42> no. the computer has no reserved ip in the router
[02:15] <dejavou42> energizer: the static ip is assigned on the computer side, in gnome network-manager
[02:15] <hhhh> ubuntu fr
[02:16] <energizer> dejavou42: yeah i dunno man, but i think i tried that one time and ended up assigning it from the router side.
[02:16] <beepbopboopbop> I just got ubuntu, and am running 14.04. I am trying to connect using an ethernet cord, hut when I plug it in it tries to connect for a bit, then disconnects. Help?
[02:17] <beepbopboopbop> In the network manager too, the top option of ethernet network is grayed out if that matters
[02:18] <zykotick9> dejavou42: ^ reason 26 why i don't like avahi - fills logs with something no one uses, remove it - forget it...
[02:19] <energizer> beepbopboopbop: one thing i always try is Edit connections > Edit > IPv4 Settings > Additional DNS servers, just put 8.8.8.8  in that box. its a google dns server. sometimes that sort of thing helps.
[02:20] <SchrodingersScat> 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
[02:21] <beepbopboopbop> Energizer: I just tried that, it's still trying to reconnect and disconnecting over and over
[02:22] <beepbopboopbop> I know it's not a hardware problem
[02:22] <hhhh> bonsoir
[02:22] <dogarrhea> can't get to the 3rd window
[02:22] <zykotick9> !fr | hhhh
[02:22] <dogarrhea> i have 3 terminal windows open alt + tab does not allow me to get to the 3rd terminal window i'm after
[02:22] <dogarrhea> it just will not open.
[02:23] <beepbopboopbop> Is it possible to completely remove Ubuntu from my system, then reinstall it?
[02:23] <dogarrhea> on the desktop, clicking the terminal window icon brings up 3 windows, when i click the terminal i want, it is sent off screen and i can't interact with it
[02:23] <zykotick9> beepbopboopbop: just reinstall, no need to remove first...
[02:24] <dogarrhea> note this is in a VM on virtualbox.  not sure why it would make a difference
[02:24] <beepbopboopbop> I have windows installed as well, if it changes anything
[02:25] <dogarrhea> just don't install on the windows partition
[02:25] <dogarrhea> why is ubuntu fcking with me
[02:25] <dogarrhea> i see the terminal window. i click it. it goes away.
[02:27] <dogarrhea> hrm. i resized virtualbox window now the terminal shows up
[02:28] <snib27> eeeeeeeee
[02:30] <Hulio> i am able installing epson for linux
[02:30] <Hulio> wohoooo i'm happy
[02:32] <Bashing-om> beepbopboopbop: Are you connecting to the internet through a router ? can you 'ping' your router ?
[02:32] <Hulio> no one even congrad to me at all
[02:42] <raspberry> hi
[02:42] <raspberry> anyone here?
[02:42] <theyesman> hello
[02:42] <theyesman> yes
[02:42] <teward> is there a way to get an apt sources.list entry to only be for one arch, even when a system is configured for multiarch?
[02:42] <raspberry> are there any one can use gnuradio?
[02:43] <Mwgriffin> hey there
[02:43] <raspberry> who can use gnuradio?
[02:43] <Mwgriffin> i have a question for you folks
[02:44] <teward> !repeat | raspberry
[02:44] <Mwgriffin> i just installed Ubuntu 15.10 Sever edition
[02:44] <teward> Mwgriffin: what's your actual question?
[02:45] <Mneuro> When I set a game to Borderless Fullscreen, the Unity launcher still shows over the game window.  Is there a way to fix this?  I never had this issue in Xubuntu
[02:46] <Mwgriffin> And I've been met with an error regarding the following:
[02:47] <Mwgriffin> A start job is running for LSB:
[02:47] <Mwgriffin> Raise network interfaces
[02:47] <Mwgriffin> (1min 18s / no limit)
[02:47] <Mwgriffin> I've never encountered that on an Ubuntu install before
[02:48] <Mwgriffin> and Have no clue how to proceed
[02:48] <Mwgriffin> @teward I don't know if that rings a bell at all for you
[02:48] <Mwgriffin> @teward or if you have any ideas on how to address that
[02:54] <NBLQ> hi
[02:55] <NBLQ> how to install OPENsuse imagewriter on ubuntu please ?
[02:55] <NBLQ> i find unetbootin highly unreliable
[03:07] <teward> Mwgriffin: it means that your system is attempting to autoconfigure a network connection but it isn't getting completed.  So either the configuration you've done on the /etc/network/interfaces is incorrect, or that network interface isn't connected to a network so it can't set itself up
[03:07] <teward> Mwgriffin: so depending on your /etc/network/interfaces configuration, it may be trying to bring up an interface before it's actually connected (and thus the interfaces file is misconfigured)
[03:08] <teward> Mwgriffin: i'm fairly familiar with the error because of instances of this evilness happening on my own fresh installs at times
[03:08] <wafflejock> is that the same as this http://askubuntu.com/questions/213614/waiting-for-network-configuration-problem
[03:08] <wafflejock> think I've seen that on Ubuntu server edition before and maybe some of the old installs I was using for the non-PAE versions for some old laptop
[03:09] <teward> wafflejock: yes and no - same cause, different messages and a few other things related to that.  Ultimately, though, having to check the interfaces file is important to determine the actual problem
[03:10] <wafflejock> mm
[03:10] <teward> wafflejock: because it may actually be connected, but not configured for the correct network settings (no DHCP on the network and it's trying DHCP, for example)
[03:15] <wafflejock> teward: yeah gotcha, always a few parts that can lead to lack of network connection
[03:16] <Mwgriffin> mmk
[03:17] <Mwgriffin> So if I set it up originally to use the lan port on this Dell 910...
[03:17] <Mwgriffin> And it isn't connected to the network at the moment
[03:17] <teward> Mwgriffin: then it will fail to configure
[03:17] <Mwgriffin> it will prevent the system from booting
[03:17] <Mwgriffin> hmm
[03:18] <teward> Mwgriffin: correct, because it can't finish configuring the connection.  'auto interfacename' would be 'allow-hotplug interfacename' instead, replacing interfacename accordingly
[03:18] <Mwgriffin> cause I initially experienced this issue when I was directly plugged into the network
[03:18] <Mwgriffin> hmmm
[03:18] <Mwgriffin> ok
[03:18] <teward> Mwgriffin: unless it's *constantly* connected to a network that will always configure correctly, it may need to be 'allow-hotplug' in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:19] <Mwgriffin> sweet
[03:19] <teward> I use the same settings on my VMs, even if the hypervisor is always able to negotiate the connections :p
[03:19] <Mwgriffin> so does that dynamically configure the network connection?
[03:19] <Mwgriffin> cool
[03:19] <teward> Mwgriffin: no
[03:19] <ubuntu100> quick question -- in synaptics package manager, it shows all the packages installed, but when using apt --installed list,  not all of the packages are shown
[03:19] <ubuntu100> does anyone know why this may be
[03:21] <teward> Mwgriffin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15369691/ is from one of my machines running 14.04 - same concept though under 15.10 - first line denotes whether to autoconfigure on boot the connection automatically, etc.  Second line states to use DHCP in the configuration
[03:21] <teward> static would mean i have to define all the stuff in the configuration there as well, but you have to also keep in mind that i use allow-hotplug to 'not require' that interface to be configured to boot up
[03:27] <wafflejock> ubuntu100: not sure what synaptic uses on the backend believe apt-get is just connecting to the repos for you and using dpkg for doing the actual install of the .deb files it downloads but not sure if synaptic package manager does the same
[03:28] <wafflejock> ubuntu100: if it's still using dpkg believe you can use dpkg -L to list the packages then grep for installed
[03:28] <wafflejock> sorry lower case -l
[03:28] <wafflejock> upper case is  if you want to target a package and list the files it installs
[03:30] <wafflejock> ubuntu100: eh slightly wrong again this has correct details http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages
[03:30] <ubuntu100> yeah, dpkg -l works but for some reason I am only getting some of the installed pacakges, not all of them. In alphabetical order it shows all packages from around letter m to z, but nothing before that. Maybe it is a terminal preferences problem?, im not really sure..
[03:30] <wafflejock> ubuntu100: are you not able to scroll back further?
[03:30] <ubuntu100> no
[03:30] <wafflejock> ubuntu100: maybe send the output to a file
[03:30] <wafflejock> or use less
[03:30] <ubuntu100> thats a good idea, i will try that
[03:30] <ubuntu100> do you know how that would be done?
[03:30] <wafflejock> like dpkg -l | less, or dpkg -l > somefile.txt
[03:32] <craig> Aspire V10, shipped with windows 10. I've installed 14.04 from usb. Can't escape win boot loader, and also cannot boot into live usb "try ubuntu". Can anyone help ?
[03:32] <wafflejock> craig: so you had win10 on it then installed ubuntu from USB but can't boot from that same USB anymore?
[03:32] <craig> when i try to "try ubuntu" from liveusb, it errors out to an initframs prompt
[03:32] <ubuntu100> awesome! sending the dpkg -l results to a textfile showed all tha packages, I think it is just an issue regarding a limit on lines in terminal
[03:32] <ubuntu100> thanks!
[03:33] <wafflejock> no prob
[03:33] <craig> wafflejock: When i first put the ubuntu boot usb in, it boots to a grub menu. My first move was to directly go to install ubuntu (instead of booting liveusb) this worked without a hitch, but I cannot get grub when I boot.
[03:34] <wafflejock> craig: hmm yeah I'm not really up on how the UEFI part works with regard to booting and I imagine that might be important here, if you can pastebin the exact error you get when you try to boot the USB right now that may help someone else point you in the right direction
[03:35] <craig> wafflejock: then i read a tutorial about going with live usb boot, installing ubuntu from within live usb, and then installing efimanager from terminal - but I can't boot.
[03:35] <wafflejock> craig: typically if I have grub issues I boot to a live USB though and just reinstall or reconfigure grub
[03:35] <wafflejock> yea
[03:35] <craig> wafflejock: for sure, me too.. the uefi thing is new for me as well, well, relatively.
[03:35] <craig> i'll do a pastebin shortly
[03:37] <meteor> hi
[03:37] <meteor> is anyone here?
[03:37] <wafflejock> hello
[03:37] <James_Epp> hiya
[03:37] <craig> actually, that would be an ordeal. different system than i'm using atm.. error says: "(initframs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[03:37] <meteor> help me
[03:37] <cfhowlett> !ask | meteor
[03:37] <craig> i'm going to hope the usb is just corrupt and try another
[03:38] <Craigwell> brb
[03:38] <wafflejock> Craigwell: k
[03:38] <guest666> hello
[03:39] <James_Epp> >mfw it's the year of our lord, 2016 and Ubuntu still isn't shipping with Wayland. https://instant.io/#963905366b2e999ee9d1b514b76a554cfd4af686
[03:40] <cfhowlett> James_Epp, commentary like this goes to #ubuntu-offtopic please.   This is the support channel.  Thank you.
[03:41] <James_Epp> cfhowlett: how do I install wayland?
[03:41] <cfhowlett> James_Epp, top search results in duckduckgo: Intall + ubuntu + wayland
[03:42] <guest666> can someone help me with the installation of seamonkey?
[03:43] <James_Epp> Hi, cfhowlett. I went to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland but the link under the heading "Are Wayland packages available in the Ubuntu archive?" is broken. Any ideas?
[03:43] <cfhowlett> James_Epp, there seems to be a wayland PPA for 14.04
[03:43] <cfhowlett> https://websetnet.com/how-to-install-latest-wayland-in-ubuntu-14-04-gnome-via-ppa/
[03:43] <Craigwell> yeah, it's definitely a uefi thing. the usb install / media is fine. tried it on another system
[03:44] <James_Epp> cfhowlett: Will that work the same for the awesome WM?
[03:44] <Craigwell> 14.04 boot usb in win10 uefi machine: boots to a grub menu, with options to 1) try ubuntu 2) oem install 3)install ubuntu 4) test drive
[03:44] <Craigwell> very odd to me
[03:44] <cfhowlett> James_Epp, no idea, sorry.  I have used neither wayland or awesome
[03:44] <James_Epp> okayyy
[03:45] <Craigwell> in older machine with legacy bios, it's what you'd expect - boots to gui, with option to try or install
[03:45] <James_Epp> Craiwell: I know a bit about UEFI. What's the story so far? Seems to be working fine from what I can tell.
[03:45] <James_Epp> Craigwell, sorry -- typo.
[03:46] <Craigwell> James_Epp: i installed, but cannot get grub to appear post install. stuck with windows boot loader
[03:46] <James_Epp> Craigwell: Ahhh I think I know. What's the boot key for your motherboard? ESC? F12? F11? something else?
[03:46] <Craigwell> James_Epp: Also cannot boot / "try ubuntu" from known good usb key
[03:46] <Craigwell> F12, and I did enable it. This is an Acer Aspire V12 machine. Shipped with win10
[03:47] <James_Epp> Craigwell: How did you install? You booted to the USB key with the UEFI: prefix I assume, how did you format?
[03:47] <Craigwell> I do have the option to enable legacy in the bios, but then it cannot find either OS
[03:47] <bray90820> I have a small script here that looks for the oldest timestamp on a directory and removes it
[03:47] <bray90820> Is there a way i could have it exclude the folder CURRENT from the rm
[03:47] <bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/5daxVebB
[03:48] <James_Epp> Craigwell: That's correct, because the ubuntu system was installed with UEFI too. So legacy won't help you. If you install ubuntu with UEFI, you need to boot it with UEFI, not legacy or 'CSM' boot.
[03:48] <Craigwell> James_Epp: Yes - When booting from the key, I was presented with a grub menu, as opposed to the gui.. from that menu, I selected "Install ubuntu", where everything then went normally. I just chose install alongside and split the 1TB drive equally.
[03:48] <James_Epp> And 99.9% of OEM systems (especially acer) are going to ship windows running under UEFI + GPT
[03:49] <James_Epp> Craigwell: Perfect. So when you go the F12 boot key, do you not see an "ubuntu" option?
[03:49] <Craigwell> James_Epp: Unfortunately not. Just Windows Boot Manager
[03:49] <James_Epp> Okay, I think I know what happened. Are you booted into the Windows partition now?
[03:50] <wafflejock> bray90820: some options here on checking the "current directory" in a bash script not sure which is really appropriate for your case though http://stackoverflow.com/questions/59895/can-a-bash-script-tell-what-directory-its-stored-in
[03:50] <Craigwell> James_Epp: I did see a tutorial that mentioned selecting "try ubuntu" first, installing from desktop icon - and then using terminal to install efimanager,  .... but live instance from usb wont work
[03:51] <Craigwell> it errors out and i'm stuck at a bash prompt, i think
[03:51] <wafflejock> bray90820: oh suppose you don't care about the script location but rather where it's ran huh?
[03:51] <James_Epp> Craigwell: You should be able to do everything from within ubuntu's installation process. Give me a minute, I might even have a youtube video on this. Not even a tutorial, but you can see my steps.
[03:52] <Craigwell> James_Epp: Yeah, once I realized I couldn't run a live instance without installing from usb, I hit a wall.
[03:52] <wafflejock> bray90820: still think pwd would tell you the current directory it's being run in so if you can get the absolute path for the thing you're checking in your script that could work
[03:52] <bray90820> wafflejock: Could I put this somewhere in the script?
[03:52] <bray90820> [[ $f != CURRENT ]] &&
[03:53] <guest666> where's a proper location to put a directory like "seamonkey/"?
[03:53] <wafflejock> bray90820: maybe that seems close at least but I don't do enough bash scripting to say definitively
[03:54] <James_Epp> Craigwell: Huh, nvm. My idea kinda went nowhere. But here's a video of me doing a UEFI Windows + Ubuntu install. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrHpqYx5O7U&feature=youtu.be
[03:54] <Craigwell> Thanks James_Epp I'll take a look
[03:55] <bray90820> wafflejock: Thanks for trying
[03:55] <wafflejock> bray90820: sure would like to get better with writing bash scripts at some point but just another thing to add to the pile of things to learn :)
[03:56] <James_Epp> Craigwell: Also, secure boot may be your problem. See if you can disable it in the UEFI. Just for testing.
[03:57] <bray90820> wafflejock: Yea I should but other then this script I pretty much know everything i would ever use
[03:59] <wafflejock> bray90820: yeah usually I'll just jump to writing a little java app if I can't think of how to do something with a bash script quickly or can't find some samples to start from, been getting more into the devops type stuff though so helpful to be able to write little bash scripts for finishing up config on things that other systems like puppet or ansible or whatever will setup
[04:01] <wafflejock> bray90820: be careful with that script too sounds like what the Adobe update script did on OS X that screwed up that backup program
[04:02] <wafflejock> it was deleting the first folder in some directory without checking what it was cause it assumed it was the adobe file but was deleting the backblaze config file or if you didn't have that whatever was the first folder in that directory
[04:05] <thenoobiestnoob> why is it that on some laptops the integrated keyboard shows up in lsusb while in others it does not? I'm trying to debug an autosuspend issue.
[04:07] <haasn> There's something odd about ubuntu 15.10 and encrypted root: Ubuntu places the encrypted partition into /etc/crypttab and update-initramfs copies the contents of that + keyscripts etc. into the initramfs. (This works fine.) After the initramfs has completed and during boot, systemd *also* tries reading /etc/crypttab - which is clearly a bug because the two assume different formats!
[04:08] <haasn> Since the initramfs is already mounting root (using its own format of /etc/crypttab), I assume the correct solution would be to get systemd to ignore /etc/crypttab altogether
[04:08] <haasn> It just happens to accidentally work in the default configuration because that one is a no-op for systemd
[04:08] <wafflejock> thenoobiestnoob: just a guess but maybe sometimes they show up on the pci bus in lspci instead of through the USB controller?
[04:08] <haasn> but as soon as you add, say, a custom keyscript + keyfile, systemd starts breaking (which can cause 1m30s boots as it times out on an invalid/nonsensical service)
[04:10] <thenoobiestnoob> @waffleock: nope. Not there either.
[04:10] <Craigwell> I figured it out.. very interesting.
[04:10] <Craigwell> had to select the entry from within the bios
[04:10] <James_Epp> Craigwell: Before you spill I have a guess
[04:10] <James_Epp> Oh, nvm.
[04:11] <James_Epp> Not in the F12 boot menu?
[04:11] <wafflejock> Craigwell: ah cool glad to hear you got it sorted
[04:11] <James_Epp> I was going to guess that ubuntu couldn't figure out where to install the "bootloader" because ubuntu organized it stupid last time I did it with manual partitioning.
[04:11] <Craigwell> thanks for sticking with me guys, it was luck i found it when i did, really
[04:11] <analogfreak> http://memegen.link/both/ubuntu-or-windows/why-not-both~q.jpg
[04:11] <wafflejock> thenoobiestnoob: usually I use lshw for the general listings like lshw -c display or lshw -c cpu
[04:11] <James_Epp> analogfreak: #dualboot
[04:11] <Craigwell> it's a provision in security of this bios, you have to manually select what the system will boot from, and then it will work
[04:12] <James_Epp> Craigwell: Love me some UEFI security
[04:12] <Craigwell> It's interesting.. but not overly useful, I'm thinking.
[04:13] <thenoobiestnoob> @wafflejock I'm looking through lshw output right now. Hopefully I'll find something.
[04:14] <Craigwell> With that I'll go back to Devils and Kings. Go Devils!
[04:14] <James_Epp> Go broncos!
[04:14] <Craigwell> Thanks again guys
[04:14] <James_Epp> np m8. take care
[04:16] <thenoobiestnoob> Okay... I didn't find anything. Is it possible to get the device attached to a driver if you know that the module is loaded?
[04:16] <bray90820> wafflejock: What happened with adobe
[04:16] <wafflejock> bray90820: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/adobe-creative-cloud-update-bug/
[04:17] <wafflejock> bray90820: guess they patched it when backblaze let them know their updater had screwed up backblaze customers cause they got a bunch of support calls
[04:17] <cfhowlett> James_Epp, obviously off- topic.  you seem to be in the wrong channel.
[04:17] <bray90820> wafflejock: Yea I am not touching any system files so I should be good
[04:17] <wafflejock> sorry yeah will not talk about that here further the bash script just made me think of it
[04:18] <James_Epp> cfhowlett: What did I do?
[04:18] <cfhowlett> sorry, nevermind.  I was wrong, James_Epp
[04:18] <cfhowlett> *official apologize mode*
[04:18] <James_Epp> it's cool m8
[04:19] <wafflejock> thenoobiestnoob: I know lspci -k is usually the way to go the other way where it shows hardware and what module is loaded for it but not sure about showing all the devices from a list of modules
[04:20] <thenoobiestnoob> @wafflejock Tried that, doesn't show the driver. The reason I was asking about the keyboard is because I figured it would be categorized like any other input device.
[04:21] <thenoobiestnoob> @wafflejock My real issue is with an integrated tablet.
[04:21] <thenoobiestnoob> @wafflejock for whatever reason, I think that it turns itself off when not in use. I theorize that it has something to do with autosuspend, but I can't find the device ID to blacklist.
[04:23] <wafflejock> hmm not sure so this is a tablet you installed Ubuntu on? what kind of tablet?
[04:23] <thenoobiestnoob> x201 laptop, swivel tablet
[04:24] <thenoobiestnoob> It's a wacom device
[04:24] <wafflejock> ah okay different kind of tablet from what I was thinking
[04:24] <thenoobiestnoob> uses a driver called wacom_w8001
[04:28] <ouroumov> Guys, can someone using youtube-dl tell me if they manage to download stuff from twit.tv at the moment?
[04:29] <James_Epp> ouroumov: I got youtube-dl on a windows machine. Give me a stream link
[04:30] <wafflejock> thenoobiestnoob: hmm well still not an answer but I found a program called "hardinfo" that gives a nice graphical breakdown of everything it might help
[04:30] <ouroumov> James_Epp, https://twit.tv/shows/security-now/episodes/550?autostart=false
[04:31] <James_Epp> ouroumov: Yup, downloading video 1 of 2
[04:31] <ouroumov> Weird, so weird
[04:31] <ouroumov> I have a "sslv3 alert handshake failure"
[04:32] <James_Epp> ouromov: Try doing the link with only http . Maybe that will work better if the server supports http
[04:32] <ouroumov> It doesn't, it's HSTS
[04:32] <ouroumov> (I tried)
[04:32] <thenoobiestnoob> @wafflejock I found it in dmesg. But it has a weird directory attached to it that I don't understand:
[04:33] <James_Epp> ouroumov: Ah, yes. I see. Well I don't know what to tell you. Want a magnet link to some downloads of it?
[04:34] <ouroumov> No thanks James_Epp, I'll make do with the streaming player for now even if I don't like it.
[04:34] <James_Epp> ouroumov: I'll get you one anyways. Won't take long for these downloads to complete.
[04:34] <ouroumov> I'm also post an issue on the github page and see if anyone else can reproduce
[04:34] <Louis11> Having a bit of trouble connecting my wireless card... Intel AC 7260. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2317043
[04:34] <ouroumov> James_Epp, in that case I'm interested in episode 523
[04:34] <Louis11> I've got the output of the wireless script posted there... tried quite a few things, but nothing seems to work
[04:35] <Louis11> I was able to get it connected earlier today, but it was extremely flaky
[04:35] <ouroumov> (I gave you the link for 550. :x)
[04:35] <James_Epp> ouroumov: Cool. Downloading. Will get you the link soonish.
[04:37] <James_Epp> ouroumov: Magnet link : https://bpaste.net/show/b100e68fd0fa
[04:38] <ouroumov> James_Epp, thanks mate.
[04:40] <ouroumov> Damn, first time I download a torrent in 5+ years
[04:40] <James_Epp> I see you grabbing it. Unfortunately that's about my max upload speed. Hope you can live with that.
[04:40] <ouroumov> James_Epp, no problem
[04:40] <ouroumov> James_Epp, I think I'm capped by my download speed anyway.
[04:40] <James_Epp> sucks.
[04:41] <ouroumov> Indeed, but it could suck more: I could be paying for this shitty internet connection. xD
[04:41] <James_Epp> Not bad then. University internet or something?
[04:42] <ouroumov> Close: student housing
[04:42] <Soullionx> hello, what is the purpose of this channel? i'm very new to linux but i'm really liking how many options are here.
[04:42] <boodllebat> I just installed graphviz on ubuntu i want to know its classpath , is this possible ?
[04:43] <ouroumov> Hello Soullionx, this is the main Support Channel for Ubuntu.
[04:43] <Soullionx> that would have been nice to know a couple weeks ago...
[04:43] <Soullionx> nice to meet you!
[04:44] <James_Epp> ouroumov: I see. So I take it you're not running any servers on your WAN IP, huh?
[04:45] <ouroumov> James_Epp, nope. I'm renting a dedicated server @ ovh.com for 10€/month
[04:45] <ouroumov> There's abount 200 residents on the LAN. ^^"
[04:46] <James_Epp> holy.
[04:47] <Soullionx> hey... i installed ubuntu on my other computer a few days ago alongside windows 8. now when i start my computer it offers windows but when selected it doesn't load windows and it attempts self diagnostics. on the other hand Ubuntu works smoothly!
[04:48] <ouroumov> Soullionx, you're seeing a windows self-diagnostic tool running?
[04:49] <Soullionx> yep, i repartitioned my self though... (using gparted)
[04:49] <ouroumov> Soullionx, and do you need stuff from windows atm?
[04:50] <Soullionx> nope. just my wife uses it sometimes. actually all my files are accesable from ubuntu.
[04:52] <Soullionx> why is it you're green? are you talking to me alone? it's been a very long time since i last used an IRC
[04:52] <James_Epp> ouroumov: Well I got to go. I'll leave the seed running. See ya.
[04:52] <ouroumov> Soullion.x, I'm green when your nickname is in the stuff I'm saying.
[04:53] <Soullionx> Oh! lol
[04:53] <Soullionx> Thank you for the explanation!
[04:55] <ouroumov> Soullionx, you're welcome. There's a tool you can use to try and fix your boot problem that's called boot-repair. Although seeing what I'm reading now on slashdot about W10 installing automatically I'd recommend against fixing windows, ever.
[04:56] <ouroumov> Soullionx, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:56] <Soullionx> oh really?! and yeah, actually i already tried that lol.
[04:57] <Soullionx> thanks for the suggestion though. it was a good try! XD
[04:57] <ouroumov> Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Someone else may give it a try if you're patient though.
[04:59] <Soullionx> eh, theres lots of options that'll probably work if i choose to go that route. my wife said it doesn't really matter anyway. and no problem! thank you for trying!
[04:59] <Soullionx> could you link me to what you were reading? sound interesting.
[05:00] <ouroumov> Soullionx, http://news.slashdot.org/story/16/03/12/1634229/windows-10-upgrade-reportedly-starting-automatically-on-windows-7-pcs
[05:00] <Soullionx> thanks!
[05:03] <Soullionx> is there really any good reason to have windows anymore? i mean wine is running anything i need anyway. and there is a lot of good software on ubuntu by default and losts of software making ubuntu versions.
[05:03] <ouroumov> If you're not a gamer and you're not cursed by needing to write .doc files for your work: no. No reason whatsoever.
[05:04] <Soullionx> Steam seems to be helping games move over to linux too lol
[05:05] <Soullionx> i read that ubuntu is free of viruses. how safe is ubuntu?
[05:06] <Soullionx> do i steal need virus software...?
[05:06] <Ben64> no, but don't install packages you find online and don't run any command someone tells you to without knowing what it does
[05:07] <ouroumov> What Ben64 said. There is linux-targetting malware, it's just less frequent because there's very little money in it.
[05:09] <Soullionx> Sounds fairly obvious. i basically followed that rule anyway and pretty much never needed anti virus software, way too much money!
[05:10] <ouroumov> I don't use AV either, but my system is quite hardened only by using a web browser with an ad-blocker anyway.
[05:15] <Soullionx> gotta love ad blocker!
[05:24] <wafflejock> boodllebat: you can use which graphviz, to see where the binary is not sure if that's what you're asking though or not
[05:25] <boodllebat> wafflejock: yes solved it
[05:25] <Hulio> guys how to add path to environment?
[05:25] <Hulio> You may want to add android-studio/bin/ to your PATH environmental variable so that you can start Android Studio from any directory.
[05:25] <Hulio> how to do that?
[05:25] <boodllebat> wafflejock: i was looking for binary , i used find utility to find that binary
[05:26] <ouroumov> Hulio, : command export PATH=$PATH:/android-studio/bin
[05:26] <wafflejock> boodllebat: ah gotcha yeah , "which" will search your path for matching binaries too
[05:26] <Hulio> oh
[05:26] <ouroumov> Hulio, put it in your ~/.bashrc if you don't want to have to to that all the time
[05:26] <wafflejock> Hulio: you typically want to add that to the bottom of your .bashrc and , source ~/.bashrc
[05:26] <ouroumov> Hulio, : command export PATH=$PATH:/the/actual/path/to/the/folder/android-studio/bin
[05:27] <Hulio> how to know my current path in terminal?
[05:27] <ouroumov> command pwd
[05:27] <Hulio> ok
[05:28] <wafflejock> boodllebat: if it's in /usr/bin that may be a symbolic link too so usually want to ls -al /usr/bin/graphviz or whatever the name is to see where the symbolic link points to for the actual binary location
[05:28] <zhxk82> hello, how to wait for a random time with 5s;excute command in cli?
[05:29] <Hulio> ok i just modify the path in ~/.bashrc now how to refresh that batch?
[05:29] <boodllebat> wafflejock: oh , but i've executable there named /usr/bin/dot
[05:29] <boodllebat> wafflejock: and it worked for me
[05:29] <wafflejock> okay cool
[05:29] <wafflejock> Hulio: just run, source ~/.bashrc, that will load the new env variable
[05:29] <Hulio> ok
[05:30] <wafflejock> Hulio: can echo $PATH; to see the output
[05:30] <zhxk82> how to eg, sleep random time within 5s then excute ls?
[05:30] <Hulio> something is wrong then:
[05:30] <Hulio> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[05:30] <ouroumov> zhongfu, sleep $RANDOM
[05:31] <Hulio> this is what i have: PATH=$PATH:/home/p/android-studio
[05:31] <ouroumov> zhongfu, expr mod 5 to cap to 5 seconds
[05:31] <wafflejock> Hulio: you have "export" before that?
[05:31] <Hulio> nope
[05:31] <rrr_> Failed to restart network.service: Unit network.service failed to load: No such file or directory.
[05:31] <wafflejock> add that think that's it
[05:31] <rrr_> sudo systemctl restart network.service
[05:31] <Soullionx> does this channel only deal with the main ubuntu or does it also cover MATE or Lubuntu?
[05:31] <Hulio> is it include 'command export ?
[05:31] <zhxk82> ouroumov, how to sleep limited random time?
[05:32] <Hulio> or just export in front?
[05:32] <ouroumov> zhongfu, sleep $[$RANDOM % 5]
[05:32] <wafflejock> Hulio: just export up front is how I have it not sure about "command"
[05:32] <rrr_> i don't know much about systemd. any idea?
[05:32] <tessar> is there any way to fix a blue flashing issue on skype?
[05:32] <wafflejock> Hulio:  mine has export PATH="$PATH:$HOME/.rvm/bin" # Add RVM to PATH for scripting
[05:32] <Hulio> it's good now
[05:32] <wafflejock> cool
[05:32] <Hulio> i see the path in echo now
[05:33] <wafflejock> should be good to run those binaries wherever in that path now
[05:33] <Hulio> once more issue: No JDK found. Please validate either STUDIO_JDK, JDK_HOME or JAVA_HOME environment variable points to valid JDK installation.
[05:33] <Hulio> how to install jdk?
[05:33] <zhxk82> ouroumov, how to get a random number with 5?
[05:33] <Bashing-om> !support
[05:33] <wafflejock> Hulio: ah okay so we just updated your regular PATH to include some new path
[05:34] <Hulio> how to install JDK ?
[05:34] <wafflejock> Hulio: this is asking for other environment variables to be configured though so instead of PATH you'd be setting JDK_HOME or JAVA_HOME to the location of the jdk
[05:34] <Bashing-om> !flavors
[05:34] <ouroumov> zhongfu, $RANDOM takes random values each time it's evaluated.
[05:34] <zhxk82> ouroumov, yes, how to get a random number with 5?
[05:35] <ouroumov> zhongfu, the whole command you have to type if you want to sleep for a random time up to 5 seconds is "sleep $[$RANDOM % 6]"
[05:35] <Soullionx> I'll take that as a yes.
[05:35] <wafflejock> Hulio: instructions here specific to just adding a JAVA_HOME as a system level environment variable http://askubuntu.com/questions/175514/how-to-set-java-home-for-java
[05:36] <wafflejock> Hulio: typically you just adjust the PATH for your user if you need access to some new binaries wherever you are in the filesystem, JAVA_HOME is used by things like android studio for where to launch the JDK from so you can change which version it's pointing at with the environment variable
[05:36] <Hulio> no idea what you're talking about
[05:36] <wafflejock> Hulio: changing it as indicated in the link there is more typical for things that the system needs the path for though not just you as a user
[05:36] <zhxk82> ouroumov, thank you very much!
[05:37] <ouroumov> Soullionx, there are dedicated channels for other flavors: #ubuntu-mate, #lubuntu
[05:37] <Hulio> i wish you can remote in my pc
[05:37] <wafflejock> Hulio: sorry I tend to ramble, what doesn't make sense
[05:37] <wafflejock> Hulio: you need to set a different env variable from what we were just changing is the long story short... and there are places  to set environment variables system wide or per user
[05:37] <Hulio> when i run 'studio.sh' it said: No JDK found. Please validate either STUDIO_JDK, JDK_HOME or JAVA_HOME environment variable points to valid JDK installation.
[05:40] <jacob91> Where should i go to ask a question about vnc
[05:40] <wafflejock> Hulio: right so you need to set, export JAVA_HOME, the link I had there is to update your /etc/environment
[05:40] <Soullionx> ouroumov, i see. the other answer was misleading lol.
[05:41] <Hulio> wafflejock, i am installing jdk now
[05:41] <Hulio> sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer oracle-java8-set-default android-studio
[05:41] <wafflejock> Hulio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15370385/
[05:41] <rrr_> how to refresh dns cache?
[05:41] <wafflejock> that's my /etc/environment
[05:41] <wafflejock> Hulio: once you install just need to find the right location based on the version of the jdk/jvm you installed
[05:42] <wafflejock> the installer might run through dpkg-reconfigure for you and set the environment variable but I forget if I set this one manually at some point or if it was automatic
[05:43] <wafflejock> rrr_: don't think you have to I've had to do that on OS X before but haven't seen problems with DNS being cached on Ubuntu what's the actual issue you're seeing?
[05:44] <hmir> Hi guys! I
[05:44] <Hulio> wafflejock, it's installing android studio now :)
[05:45] <rrr_> wafflejock: i updated a huge hosts. i want to refresh dns cache so it takes effect
[05:45] <hmir> I was wondering, has anyone tried symlinking the places.sqlite files from your firefox profile folder on to dropbox in ubuntu?
[05:45] <wafflejock> rrr_: you just have to wait for that to propagate to your ISPs DNS or whatever DNS you're using
[05:45] <wafflejock> rrr_: you can modify your hosts to have it be immediate for you but doesn't affect anyone else
[05:46] <rrr_> wafflejock: just for me
[05:46] <wafflejock> rrr_: for you you can modify your /etc/hosts to list the name then the IP for that specific domain
[05:46] <jacob91> Can somebody help me troubleshoot? If i boot my media pc with the TV off it will fail to load the screen when i turn on the tv. the machine responds to ping requests
[05:46] <wafflejock> er IP then domains rather
[05:47] <rrr_> wafflejock: i already did that. i copied from a huge hosts to block ads. is it effective immediately for me?
[05:47] <wafflejock> should be yes
[05:47] <wafflejock> I make changes in there pretty frequently
[05:47] <wafflejock> never have to logout or anything just effective immediately
[05:48] <rrr_> wafflejock: but the instruction says i have to run this "sudo systemctl restart network.service" or reboot. i don't want to reboot.
[05:48] <wafflejock> rrr_: ah okay so systemd related stuff?
[05:49] <wafflejock> I'm only using 14.04 everywhere so haven't gotten into that yet
[05:49] <rrr_> wafflejock: that systemctl command failed
[05:49] <wafflejock> are you on 14.04?
[05:49] <wafflejock> think systemctl is for systemd and pretty sure 14.04 isn't using that yet
[05:49] <rrr_> i am on 15.04
[05:50] <wafflejock> for me it's just updated right away... hmm k yeah can't really comment on that
[05:51] <baizon> rrr_: 15.04 is EOL
[05:51] <baizon> !eol | rrr_
[05:52] <rrr_> yeah i am looking forward 16.04 next month
[05:54] <jacob91> Problem: X fails to load if the screen is turned off during boot. Can anybody give me a hint.
[05:56] <wafflejock> jacob91: could just be that a resolution is being selected for X that isn't right since there isn't a monitor to probe
[05:56] <wafflejock> jacob91: can you get to a terminal? Ctrl+Alt+F1
[05:56] <jacob91> wafflejock, no
[05:56] <jacob91> wafflejock, a vnc connection fails too
[05:57] <wafflejock> jacob91: hmm strange so is this a computer you installed ubuntu on and then disconnected the monitor so you can use it as a server but still have the GUI for admin when you want it or remote development or whatever? just want to make sure I understand the scenario
[05:58] <jacob91> wafflejock, its a media center pc connected to my TV
[05:59] <wafflejock> gotcha so if the TV isn't on it doesn't boot properly
[05:59] <jacob91> wafflejock, correct, if the tv is outputting another source, ubuntu X wont load
[05:59] <wafflejock> jacob91: strange I've seen kinda similar stuff if I have my kvm switched to another machine the resolution will be messed up till I open the display settings then it fixes itself
[06:00] <jacob91> wafflejock, it will respond to ping requests though
[06:01] <jacob91> wafflejock, i'll try to lock my screen to a lower resolution maybe
[06:01] <wafflejock> x still comes up in my case though
[06:01] <wafflejock> yah maybe try fiddling with that not sure what else to do to diagnose the issue though
[06:01] <wafflejock> checking dmesg or syslog and stuff I guess
[06:02] <jacob91> wafflejock, does the log stay if i reboot, or does it get overwritten each time?
[06:04] <wafflejock> jacob91: it typically gets rebuilt I believe... you can't vnc you said but did you try sshing into it?
[06:05] <jacob91> wafflejock, no, but i will do that
[06:06] <wafflejock> jacob91: here's the details on the logging system too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles imagine if it does rebuild that log each time can possibly configure it to do it with a timestamp or something so they get preserved
[06:07] <jacob91> wafflejock, thank you
[06:07] <wafflejock> jacob91: sure thing
[06:13] <anurag1018> the touchpad stops working whenever the laptop is resumed from suspended state
[06:16] <ner0x> Are there any GUI programs to help you search for files recursively? I'm probing my phone for family pictures/videos and they seem to hide them in multiple directories. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
[06:16] <wafflejock> ner0x: not sure about GUIs that are great for searching files on linux but usually the find command will do it for you
[06:16] <anurag1018> the touchpad stops working whenever the laptop is resumed from suspended state
[06:17] <anurag1018> please help
[06:17] <wafflejock> ner0x: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5927369/recursively-look-for-files-with-a-specific-extension
[06:18] <wafflejock> ner0x: I'm also a fan of the "locate" command, can run "sudo updatedb" then "locate *.mp4"
[06:19] <wafflejock> !details | anurag1018
[06:20] <wafflejock> anurag1018: would be good to know, "lsb_release -a" what version of ubuntu in particular and "lsusb" or "lspci" output on pastebin to show the hardware device that stops working to search for specifics
[06:21] <anurag1018> wafflejock:whenever the laptop wakes up,i cant move the mouse nor click until i restart the computer
[06:21] <ner0x> wafflejock: Yeah, I would use the find command except I don't think I'm able to get to the directory because it's through mtp or some similar reason to that.
[06:22] <anurag1018> wafflejock:ubuntu 14.04
[06:22] <wafflejock> anurag1018: do you have a usb mouse around to test with would be good to just be 100% sure it's just the touchpad itself not responding (also keyboard still works fine?)
[06:23] <ner0x> wafflejock: If I can console cd into that directory I'd still have the problem of it listing all images without me being able to see them. IE: program images, backgrounds, etc. I think it would be easy if I could actually scroll through and view.
[06:23] <anurag1018> wafflejock:yes when i connect the usb mouse,it works but the touchpad still doesnt work
[06:23] <wafflejock> ner0x: gotcha, yeah I mean there are a lot of file browser options, nemo, nautilus, caja, etc. but really haven't played much with search in any of em
[06:24] <wafflejock> anurag1018: okay can you do "lspci -k" and paste the output of that think it should show the kernel module and device for the touchpad in there somewhere
[06:24] <wafflejock> anurag1018: put it on paste.ubuntu.com instead of pasting many lines here too please
[06:26] <anurag1018> wafflejock: the touchpad is working as of now.Would it still be helpful?
[06:26] <wafflejock> ner0x: you might be best off just using a recursive copy for the file type you're interested in to some location where you can browse them and pick through more easily
[06:26] <wafflejock> anurag1018: yeah just lists the device id and what kernel module/driver is loaded for the device
[06:27] <wafflejock> anurag1018: just going to use that info to google and see if there are any known issues with that touchpad in particular with 14.04 and suspend
[06:27] <wafflejock> anurag1018: if it doesn't show in "lspci -k" output maybe would show in "lsusb" but typically built in devices on the pci bus (not usb stuff) shows up in lspci
[06:28] <ner0x> wafflejock: That was my plan but that's when I ran into my problem, I'd need to know which directories to copy before I could copy and peek at them.
[06:28] <ner0x> wafflejock: Unless I copy the entire phone and go from there.
[06:28] <wafflejock> yah
[06:28] <wafflejock> was just thinking that
[06:28] <wafflejock> might be easier
[06:29] <anurag1018> wafflejock: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/15370566/
[06:30] <ner0x> wafflejock: It's at least doable. I can always "find" my way through the filetypes recursively from there. I might just rsync include them from the top dir to another after that so I narrow down the images to sort through.
[06:32] <wafflejock> anurag1018: shoot looks like it's not listed there, I don't see anything that looks like a touchpad, try "xinput --list" should at least see the name of it there
[06:33] <wafflejock> ner0x: yeah sounds as reasonable as it can be :)
[06:33] <ner0x> wafflejock: Turns out it's only ~4 gigs. Way more manageable than I thought. Hell, I might just backup my entire phones like this from now on. haha
[06:33] <wafflejock> heh
[06:33] <ner0x> wafflejock: Thanks for your help. Cheers.
[06:33] <wafflejock> np cheers :)
[06:35] <anurag1018> wafflejock: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15370591/
[06:36] <wafflejock> anurag1018: well huh... I guess maybe it's that UNKNOWN one
[06:36] <wafflejock> anurag1018: this has some more details on using xinput --list to get more details per device http://www.uplawski.eu/technology/linux/touchpad_en.html
[06:37] <wafflejock> anurag1018: can try, xinput --list-props 13
[06:37] <wafflejock> that UNKNOWN one is id=13 hopefully can get some more details out of that
[06:37] <wafflejock> anurag1018: on my system it's something obvious like ↳ ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad
[06:39] <wafflejock> anurag1018: does this bug apply to you maybe? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1442863
[06:40] <wafflejock> anurag1018: I tried searching for that 8 digit device id and ubuntu and that's the second link there
[06:40] <wafflejock> anurag1018: perhaps check some of the other results in the search for "06CB:7621 ubuntu 14.04" https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=06CB%3A7621+ubuntu+14.04
[06:43] <anurag1018> wafflejock: Yes this is exactly the same problem.I'll look out for  the fix.Thanks for your help anyways.
[06:46] <wafflejock> anurag1018: sure thing sorry it's not a quick easy fix but hopefully you find a way
[06:47] <Hulio> wafflejock, you need to go to sleep dude
[06:47] <Hulio> wafflejock, it's late
[06:49] <anurag1018> wafflejock: Yes,hopefully I will
[06:50] <wafflejock> Hulio: yeah I got on a messed up sleep schedule do need to stop rambling in here do a bit of work and get back to bed though :)
[06:50] <Hulio> go now
[07:13] <karrot> does anyone have ubuntu installed on their mac?
[07:13] <floka> hello all
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> !mac | karrot
[07:14] <karrot> thanks, but I'm more thinking about help with refindit...
[07:15] <floka> I am trying to create a deb package from source using checkinstall.Unfortunatelly checkinstall does not obey checkinstall --install=no -D   .I want to ONLY creat deb package.Is checkinstall a buggy tool?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> !checkinstall | floka
[07:17] <floka> checkinstall is buggy
[07:18] <floka> it can not obey its own opeions --install=no
[07:18] <floka> any working version of checkinstall?
[07:19] <floka> I will post you my command output to see I am right
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> floka: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[07:19] <floka> the latest one
[07:22] <floka> have you used checkinstall to only create deb package without installing it?
[07:23] <floka> I use this command checkinstall -D --install=no
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> floka: didnt play with it myself no, try a few things out perhaps =yes ineatd of no? see what happens
[07:24] <floka> it will install it and I do not want to
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> floka: ok, so whats the error you getting
[07:24] <floka> It installed it and it was not listed in apt, synaptics did not find it, I had to manually deleted installed files from checkinstall log
[07:25] <floka> the error is that checkinstall can not create package without installing it
[07:25] <drogma75> ciao
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> floka: so the =no options just doesnt work for you?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> !it | drogma75
[07:26] <floka> here someone else has experienced the same http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/158053/how-to-tell-checkinstall-only-create-package-file-but-not-install
[07:27] <floka> Is there any other way to create deb package?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> floka: the last answer says something about wine, did you install that?
[07:27] <floka> man I do not need wine
[07:28] <floka> this is just an example of the guy wanting to create deb package without installing it.I want the same thing but on a different package
[07:28] <floka> checkinstall must be rewritten.
[07:29] <floka> it can not create package WITHOUT installing it first
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> floka: then file a new bug
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> floka: tried this: checkisntall --install=no --fstrans=yes
[07:30] <floka> I tried that , fails again
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> ok file a bug
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> !bug
[07:43] <Neytiri> hi i have a question how do i copy a specific file type from a folder containing multiple folders of varopus depths to one directory,   i tried cp **/*.zip /newfiles   but it didnt go as deep as i needed it to go
[07:46] <al_nz1> I am running a flavour of ubuntu, but eth0 has a weird name - enp63s0 - what is this
[07:46] <geirha> Neytiri: You need to enable globstar first
[07:46] <geirha> Neytiri: shopt -s globstar
[07:50] <Neytiri> when i did that and rerand the command i got this bash: /bin/cp: Argument list too long
[07:50] <Neytiri> how do i get around that
[07:50] <geirha> Neytiri: You either have to populate the files in an array, and process that in chunks, or you could use find instead
[07:51] <geirha> Neytiri: find . -type f -name "*.zip" -exec cp -it /newfiles {} +
[07:52] <eaterofnames> so, boot-repair isn't showing anything under the GRUB location pane, which is what I need to change to fix my boot issue...
[07:53] <geirha> Neytiri: find knows about the ARG_MAX limit and makes sure cp has as many filenames as can fit, and run more cp commands as necessary
[07:53] <eaterofnames> Also, here's the output of a "recommended repair" http://paste.ubuntu.com/15370817/ symptoms are grub doesn't show, computer doesn't boot. Fresh install of Ubuntu-Gnome 15.whatever
[07:53] <Neytiri> ok thanks it seems to be working
[07:54] <ouroumov> al_nz1, it happens, I saw that on a server where my interface names were em[1-4] for some reason
[07:54] <Neytiri> second question is there a way to look at all the files in that folder and move the ones that DONT confrom to a specific naming convention
[07:54] <ouroumov> al_nz1, it can be fixed though, so a search on the community website
[07:55] <geirha> Neytiri: Sure, there are several ways to do that, mainly depending on how complicated the naming convention is
[07:55] <al_nz1> ta
[07:56] <Neytiri> BLAH-BLAH - BLAH - BLAH
[07:56] <geirha> Neytiri: What does that mean? that they should contain exactly three - characters?
[07:57] <Neytiri> no Blah can be any length
[07:57] <Neytiri> DiskID-Track - Artist - title
[07:57] <Neytiri> bacically altho altist and title cna be reversed without big issue
[07:58] <geirha> Neytiri: So this glob should match the ones you want to keep?   *-*" - "*" - "*.zip
[08:00] <Neytiri> so just do find . -type f -name "*-*" - "*" - "*.zip" -exec cp -it /NameFail {} +
[08:00] <geirha> Neytiri: No that was a glob for the shell
[08:00] <Neytiri> ????
[08:01] <Neytiri> im lost
[08:01] <geirha> And I'm confused. I thought those where the files that were named correctly
[08:01] <Neytiri> im not familiar with the glob concept
[08:01] <Neytiri> those are, i want the ones that are NOT fitting that
[08:02] <geirha> well the same pattern for find will be  -name "*-* - * - *.zip"
[08:02] <geirha> In globs, * is a wildcard matching zero or more of any characters
[08:06] <ap> hi
[08:28] <davcri> hi ! I had just installed ubuntu 15.10 on a Skylake CPU. What's the best way to update kernel and graphic stack (for intel integrated gpu)?
[08:29] <baizon> davcri: just stay were you are
[08:29] <baizon> davcri: you dont have to do anything
[08:30] <arash> !vpn | arash
[08:31] <davcri> baizon, i read on phoronix that at least 4.3 kernel should be used for full skylake support
[08:32] <baizon> davcri: then wait until 16.04 which will be released in a month, then you will have 4.4 kernel
[08:35] <davcri> baizon, ok thank you :) just in case: the best way to install other kernels in Ubuntu is from kernel-ppa mainline? ?
[08:36] <baizon> davcri: for non-LTS yes
[08:43] <Shai-Tan> device not accepting address 101, error -71
[08:43] <Shai-Tan> is this a good error?
[08:43] <baizon> Shai-Tan: well, we have no context, so its hard to tell
[08:44] <Shai-Tan> usb 2-1-port1: unable to enumerate USB device
[08:44] <PacoSmithereens> Does anyone know of a fix for the network error you get in KDE when you go to explore/add new themes, window decorations, etc.?
[08:45] <baizon> PacoSmithereens: ask on #kubuntu
[08:45] <PacoSmithereens> I did; no reply or activity in there for hours.
[08:45] <PacoSmithereens> Still waiting on 'em.
[08:45] <baizon> PacoSmithereens: its 9AM here in europe, so i would guess it will take some time, also its weekend
[08:46] <PacoSmithereens> Gotcha; forgot about that.
[08:46] <PacoSmithereens> No rush, just figured I'd ask in here if anyone knew.
[08:46] <baizon> PacoSmithereens: cant help sorry, don't use KDE at all
[08:47] <indifferent3700> Before you join the future of IRC, you must prove yourself worthy. !flag. This conversation may be monitored.
[09:15] <C0r3> I did sudo apt-get upgrade yet the 'Software Updater' is popping up saying 65.8MB  will be downloaded.
[09:20] <EriC^^> C0r3: you need to run dist-upgrade to update the kernels too and other stuff
[09:20] <apatters> How can I make a command run only when a specific X session in /usr/share/xsessions starts?
[09:20] <C0r3> EriC^^: Will that will upgrade my OS from 14.04 to 15.10??
[09:21] <EriC^^> C0r3: no, just the kernel and some software maybe
[09:21] <C0r3> EriC^^: Thanks
[09:21] <EriC^^> C0r3: no problem
[09:23] <Thorax2015> Im sorry. I have tried and tried. But Unity is terrible. Just completely illogical in most ways
[09:24] <Myrtti_> ok
[09:28] <Thorax2015> Well in the past ive always just written it off as everyone else said it was just bad. But this time ive tried to stick with it.
[09:29] <Thorax2015> But even basic usability is just rubbish
[09:29] <apatters> Actually, better question: how can I run a command after Gnome has been started from a particular x session? I don't want it to run every time Gnome starts, just if I launch this certain x session. (The command is xmonad --replace)
[09:30] <yoylo> hallo
[09:52] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> I tried cat /var/log/syslog | grep DHCPREQUEST and found out that the wireless device is requesting an IP every 5 minutes approximately ... and I'm being told that is not normal, are there any suggestion for fixing this issues?
[09:52] <yoylo> wtf
[10:05] <Neytiri> so does this ever end find . -type f -name "*.zip" -exec cp -it /newfiles {} +    i ran it and i am starting to get a lot of do you wnat to overwright existing file
[10:09] <jarnos> I have two Ubuntu one usernames with different email address. Is that a problem?
[10:09] <cfhowlett> no
[10:10] <Thorax2015> Is there an expected release date for 16.04?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | Thorax2015
[10:10] <jarnos> cfhowlett, I would like to remove the other one anyway. It is confusing to have too. I am not sure, if they refer to same related accounts.
[10:10] <jarnos> ^connect
[10:10] <cfhowlett> jarnos, you can delete an ubuntu one account.  login and see the optionx
[10:10] <cfhowlett> *options*
[10:13] <minimec> Thorax2015: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[10:15] <Desetude> Hello
[10:16] <Desetude> Can anyone help with my failing attempt to dual boot ubuntu 15.10 with windows 10?
[10:16] <EriC^^> Desetude: what's the problem?
[10:17] <Desetude> EriC^^ Well, my PC boots straight to Windows and not GRUB, eveb when holding shift. I think it may be a problem with my disk as I wanted ubuntu to be installed onto my SSD but it looks like a bit of it was installed on to my harddrive (there's a folder on it called efi). Here's the boot info summary: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15371061/ I can boot to ubuntu also, as I can use the USB stick I used to install ubuntu to bring up grub.
[10:18] <Desetude> And if I try to boot to hard drive it wants me to reinstall ubuntu
[10:19] <Thorax2015> cfhowlett, How did that help? XD
[10:20] <ikonia> what do you mean it wants you to reinstall ubuntu
[10:20] <ikonia> it either boots or it doens't
[10:20] <ikonia> doesn't
[10:20] <EriC^^> Desetude: is it an hp laptop?
[10:21] <andrey_utkin> I have installed selinux on my host system, and now I cannot update my Ubuntu Trusty chroot, the update fails with "cannot get security labeling handle: No such file or directory". Any hint how to overcome this?
[10:22] <Tin_man> Desetude: what happens when you hit the F12 key at boot?
[10:22] <baizon> andrey_utkin: why did you install selinux? ubuntu is using apparmor already
[10:27] <varazir> Hello, I'm running ubuntu server on a ESXi host and I have extended the hdd. I read something after kernel 2.6 I can resize without booting to a liveCD that's correct ?
[10:28] <varazir> I tried sudo resize2fs /dev/sda1  but the system said The filesystem is already 2621440 (4k) blocks long.  Nothing to do!
[10:29] <EriC^^> varazir: did you resize the partition? not sure about live resizing i think just lvm can do that?
[10:30] <varazir> EriC^^: no I haven't done that, okay live cd that is then
[10:31] <nikolay> 7
[10:31] <Desetude> EriC: Custom PC
[10:31] <Desetude> EriC^^: Custom PC
[10:31] <EriC^^> Desetude: ok, boot the live ubuntu usb
[10:32] <Desetude> One second, I will bring this irc on my tablet so I can talk on it and be in this irc at the same time
[10:32] <EriC^^> ok
[10:35] <arash> Anybody knows the google repository url?
[10:35] <Desetude> Hello
[10:35] <EriC^^> hi
[10:35] <Desetude> OK, so i should boot onto usb stick i used to install, ccorrect?
[10:36] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:36] <Neytiri> so does this ever end find . -type f -name "*.zip" -exec cp -it /newfiles {} +    i ran it and i am starting to get a lot of do you want to over wright existing file, i don't want to end up endlissly filling my arrays
[10:37] <netphreak> Hello, guys!
[10:38] <Desetude> Wait wut
[10:40] <andrey_utkin> baizon: i didn't install selinux on ubuntu. I installed that on gentoo.
[10:40] <Desetude> So if i choose a boot device i can see ubuntu on there(my actual one) so thats strange i didnt see before. But i dont see that option whencchanging boot order
[10:40] <EriC^^> Desetude: ok choose the ubuntu install
[10:40] <EriC^^> ( boot your actual install )
[10:41] <Desetude> But it looks like it works there
[10:41] <netphreak> How are updates to Snappy Ubuntu handled? - automatically installed or - or do these require manual user intervention?
[10:41] <Desetude> Just isnt seen by boot priority list
[10:42] <EriC^^> Desetude: ok, boot it, let me know when it boots
[10:43] <Desetude> Ok ive got it to boot up into grub
[10:43] <Desetude> But how do i delete the secondary ubuntu on my hard drive?
[10:43] <Desetude> Can i just delete the efi file?
[10:43] <EriC^^> what secondary ubuntu?
[10:44] <EriC^^> are you booting the actual ubuntu on your hdd right now?
[10:44] <Desetude> On my ssd
[10:44] <Desetude> I had to also change operating system in bios
[10:44] <Desetude> Change boot manager*
[10:45] <EriC^^> ok, so it's booting by itself now or you have to enter a menu etc ?
[10:45] <Desetude> But now i need to delete the extra ubuntu installation on my secondary harddrive
[10:45] <Desetude> I enter grub menu
[10:45] <Desetude> And ubuntu loads properly
[10:45] <Desetude> With my login and settings
[10:45] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:45] <EriC^^> and paste the link here
[10:46] <EriC^^> Desetude: so you turn on the pc, you get grub straight away
[10:46] <Desetude> Well motherboard splashscreen then it
[10:46] <EriC^^> ok
[10:49] <Desetude> Eric what is that command meant to do?
[10:49] <EriC^^> show the disks and partition tables
[10:49] <Desetude> It saids could not start device for me no such file or directory
[10:49] <EriC^^> and paste them online and give a link
[10:50] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l
[10:50] <Desetude> Stat device*
[10:52] <EriC^^> try sudo lsblk -f
[10:53] <Desetude> It wont ley me do that straight line symbol
[10:53] <Desetude> Thats strange
[10:54] <EriC^^> it should be next to enter
[10:54] <Desetude> Oh my keyboard layout is american instead of uk
[10:54] <Desetude> Ill change that later
[10:55] <EriC^^> settings > text entry
[10:55] <Desetude> Termbin.com/jvmc
[10:55] <EriC^^> Desetude: ok, it looks like you have 1 ubuntu installed
[10:56] <EriC^^> what do you mean about the secondary ubuntu?
[10:56] <Desetude> Well in boot menu in mbios it says ubuntu on wdc hdd
[10:56] <Desetude> I think it is bevause i have an efi folder in there
[10:56] <Desetude> With ubuntu things
[10:57] <Desetude> Is it safe to delete it?
[10:57] <EriC^^> Desetude: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:58] <Desetude> termbin.com/j8aa
[10:58] <Desetude> It looks like there is two ubuntu ones
[10:59] <Desetude> 1 on hard drive (disk #1) and 1 on ssd (disk #2)
[10:59] <Desetude> I only want one on ssd (disk #2)
[10:59] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:59] <EriC^^> i think it's the boot0007 entry
[11:00] <EriC^^> type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[11:00] <karrot> what is the easiest way make it so my computer will automount an sdcard on startup
[11:00] <EriC^^> it's kind of odd it put the stuff there too though, usually it's supposed to only use fat32 efi partitions
[11:01] <EriC^^> Desetude: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[11:01] <EriC^^> Desetude: it's kind of odd it put the stuff there too though, usually it's supposed to only use fat32 efi partitions
[11:02] <EriC^^> karrot: /etc/fstab
[11:02] <Desetude> K
[11:02] <EriC^^> !fstab | karrot
[11:02] <Desetude> Mount is denied because ntfs volume is already exclusively opened
[11:02] <EriC^^> aha
[11:03] <EriC^^> Desetude: type cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:03] <karrot> EriC^^, thanks
[11:03] <EriC^^> Desetude: sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:03] <EriC^^> karrot: np
[11:04] <Desetude> xyfb termbin code
[11:05] <karrot> is it possible to change really basic commands like mv with something else I prefer, like an rsync command?  I don't want to really mess anything up
[11:05] <EriC^^> Desetude: sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:05] <cfhowlett> karrot, possible.  just unwise.
[11:05] <Desetude> Just did that erric
[11:05] <EriC^^> karrot: yeah, using alias, alias mv='mv -i' for instance
[11:06] <Desetude> termbin.com/xyfb
[11:06] <EriC^^> Desetude: oh, sorry i meant cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:06] <karrot> I figured I could make an alias, I'm just a little worried of making some bad choices
[11:08] <Desetude> Termbin.com/86xs
[11:09] <EriC^^> Desetude: ok, looks good
[11:10] <EriC^^> Desetude: ok so the ntfs is mounted right now i guess
[11:10] <Desetude> So how could i rremove that 2nd boot device
[11:10] <Desetude> Boot option i mean
[11:11] <EriC^^> Desetude: first remove the entry using sudo efibootmgr -B -b 0007
[11:11] <EriC^^> Desetude: then go to /media/<user>/..../EFI/ubuntu
[11:12] <EriC^^> if there's an efi/ubuntu dir there with grubx64.efi shimx64.efi and a couple other files delete the ubuntu dir
[11:12] <Desetude> Done
[11:14] <Desetude> Bacl
[11:14] <Desetude> What now eric?
[11:15] <EriC^^> Desetude: that's it
[11:15] <EriC^^> try rebooting
[11:16] <Desetude> Should i delete efi folder on hard drive?
[11:16] <Desetude> Or can i even
[11:16] <EriC^^> on the ntfs yeah
[11:16] <EriC^^> Desetude: then go to /media/<user>/..../EFI/ubuntu
[11:16] <EriC^^> if there's an efi/ubuntu dir there with grubx64.efi shimx64.efi and a couple other files delete the ubuntu dir
[11:17] <Desetude> Do u mean then delete in hard drive pretty sure i shouldnt delete ssd one
[11:17] <Desetude> Ah
[11:17] <Desetude> The hard drive shows there
[11:18] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:18] <Desetude> What about the boot dir
[11:18] <Desetude> With bootx64
[11:18] <EriC^^> that's windows stuff
[11:18] <Desetude> And bootx64.efi.grb
[11:18] <EriC^^> oh, those are from boot-repair i'd guess
[11:19] <EriC^^> what's on the ntfs? just data?
[11:19] <Desetude> Ntfs?
[11:19] <EriC^^> the hdd
[11:20] <Desetude> Only games atm
[11:20] <Desetude> But will be putting other large pieces of data
[11:20] <EriC^^> ok, if there's no operating system there you could delete the efi dir there with boot
[11:21] <Desetude> Ok
[11:21] <Desetude> Ill try rebooting now
[11:21] <Desetude> Hope for the best
[11:21] <EriC^^> windows used to boot fine by itself before right?
[11:21] <EriC^^> ok
[11:21] <Desetude> Yes
[11:21] <EriC^^> ok
[11:21] <Desetude> Woo
[11:21] <Desetude> All works
[11:22] <EriC^^> cool
[11:22] <Desetude> Also, do you know why the screen display settings isnt opening
[11:22] <Desetude> It has loading cursor butndoesnt open
[11:22] <EriC^^> settings > display ?
[11:22] <Desetude> Because i want to extend monitors isnt of duplicate
[11:23] <Desetude> Instead of*
[11:23] <EriC^^> Desetude: try opening a terminal and type unity-control-center display
[11:28] <Desetude> Hello
[11:28] <Desetude> Erm
[11:28] <lyze> Hey
[11:28] <Desetude> hastebin.com/puzudawoxe.css
[11:29] <Desetude> When trying to do unity-control-center display eric
[11:29] <EriC^^> Desetude: http://askubuntu.com/questions/637373/unable-to-edit-display-settings-in-15-04
[11:29] <EriC^^> Desetude: do you have an amd or nvidia?
[11:30] <Desetude> Nvidia
[11:31] <Desetude> I have drivers in windows do i need to manage these seperately?
[11:32] <EriC^^> yeah windows drivers and ubuntu drivers aren't used by eachother
[11:32] <EriC^^> Desetude: type sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:32] <Desetude> Darn
[11:37] <Desetude> termbin.com/bpxc
[11:37] <Desetude> Ive download latest driver, do i just need to run the .run file?
[11:40] <Desetude> It saids i appear to be running an x server
[11:42] <hicoleri> Can anyone tell me what terminal emulator this is? : http://tinyurl.com/h3ozwfw
[11:44] <baizon> hicoleri: its no terminal emulator, its https://i3wm.org/
[11:44] <lyze> Ohh that one looks gorgeous :O
[11:44] <hicoleri> baizon: Yeah, but whats the term emu inside it?
[11:44] <EriC^^> Desetude: type dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[11:45] <EriC^^> Desetude: type dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:45] <hicoleri> with those triangular "word edges"
[11:45] <de-facto> does anyone know of a .deb source package for fonts-roboto-mono ?
[11:46] <floka> how to mount a drive and be able to use it write directories, files without superuser?
[11:46] <de-facto> i found this but cant locate the sources for it https://bintray.com/cublinux/deb/fonts-roboto-extra/view
[11:46] <baizon> floka: you need to be in the right group
[11:46] <lyze> hicoleri, ohh that's a oh-my-zsh theme
[11:47] <lyze> hicoleri, https://gist.github.com/agnoster/3712874 probably that one
[11:47] <hicoleri> term emus can have themes? Didnt know that.
[11:48] <lyze> hicoleri, that's more like the shell itself. … zsh specifically :)
[11:48] <floka> if I plug my usb drive it mount it automatically and I can use fine.But If I do that on other hard drive it requires root to write to the mounted new drive
[11:48] <floka> why is that?
[11:48] <hicoleri> oh
[11:48] <lyze> hicoleri, install link if you want to ;) https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh
[11:48] <floka> any fix to that?
[11:49] <hicoleri> kay
[11:50] <Desetude> EriC^^: 'use netcat"
[11:50] <EriC^^> Desetude: try again
[11:50] <Desetude> Same again
[11:54] <Desetude> Got it working
[11:55] <Desetude> Thanks a lot for all of this eric
[11:55] <hypermist> MI MI MI MI MI MI MI ONLY MI MI MI MI SEXY MI MI MI
[11:55] <EriC^^> Desetude: no problem
[11:55] <hypermist> whoops
[11:55] <hypermist> tottally got the wrong channel there
[11:55] <EriC^^> hypermist: :D
[11:55] <hypermist> *moves along*
[11:55] <Desetude> So time to customize ubuntu!
[11:56] <EriC^^> Desetude: you installed the driver from nvidia's site?
[11:56] <hypermist> if you wonder why i said that EriC^^ ;D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAgSqpg9W2Ua (offtopic)
[11:57] <Desetude> EriC^^: did it through ubuntu driver manager and it worked
[11:58] <EriC^^> hypermist: :D
[11:58] <EriC^^> Desetude: ah, great
[11:58] <codepython777> anyone using 16.04 yet? which iso?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> codepython777, discuss in #ubuntu+1
[11:58] <hypermist> My ubuntu pc in the spare rooms does like Nothing all day everyday
[11:59] <hypermist> apart from eat the powaah
[11:59] <mohammad> hello
[11:59] <Guest17347> what is the alternative program for photoshop in ubuntu?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> gimp comes to mind Guest17347
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:03] <metrixx> hey
[12:03] <metrixx> i did dist-upgrade on ubuntu 14.04 and it seems still 14.04
[12:04] <metrixx> shouldn't it be 15.10 or whatever_
[12:04] <cfhowlett> Metr
[12:04] <cfhowlett> nope
[12:04] <Guest17347> i want to transparent a part of image is gimp suit for this?
[12:04] <metrixx> then what did it upgrade :|
[12:04] <cfhowlett> metrixx, do-release-upgrade if you want to move up.  learn your commands
[12:04] <cfhowlett> Guest17347, yes
[12:05] <karmelis> hello.
[12:05] <karmelis> anyone here running ricochet?
[12:07] <metrixx> cfhowlett, No new release found
[12:07] <metrixx> but i have 14.04 still...
[12:08] <cfhowlett> metrixx, then your software settings are set to LTS only , i.e. 12.04 > 14.04 > 16.04
[12:08] <metrixx> hmm
[12:08] <metrixx> -d will solve then
[12:08] <cfhowlett> no!
[12:09] <metrixx> :(
[12:09] <cfhowlett> unless you really want to install an unsupported, in development unfinished unrelease
[12:09] <metrixx> i want
[12:09] <metrixx> i want it
[12:09] <cfhowlett> on your head then ...
[12:09] <metrixx> i never trusted an operating system in my life. i always have backup
[12:09] <Tammyton> I installed Ubuntu this morning and one of my monitors aren't showing the correct resolution. Can someone help please?
[12:10] <karmelis> Tammyton: Have you put in a request on the official forum?
[12:10] <Tammyton> no
[12:10] <Tammyton> I guess I'll go do that
[12:11] <k1l> Tammyton: what video card is it?
[12:11] <karmelis> We have a new LTS release slated for April.
[12:12] <KiazakiVagyok> hello
[12:12] <Tammyton> k1l It's an nvidia graphics card
[12:13] <k1l> Tammyton: ok, did you install a driver? where did you get that driver from?
[12:13] <floka> Do you guys know how ubuntu mounts usb hard drives?After the mount is done regular user can write to them
[12:13] <floka> how is that done
[12:13] <KiazakiVagyok> what type of nvidia card?
[12:13] <k1l> floka: gvfs is used by the nautilus file explorer
[12:14] <Tammyton> k1l earlier I installed a binary driver using additional drivers but that one didn't work. I'm currently using the x.org driver
[12:14] <Tammyton> I've also tried making a 10-monitor.conf and rebooting which didn't work
[12:15] <k1l> Tammyton: ok, so what card is it exactly? "lspci" will tell
[12:15] <jushur> floka: man udisks , man udisksctl
[12:16] <Tammyton> k1l geforce gtx 660
[12:19] <k1l> Tammyton: which ubuntu exactly?
[12:19] <KiazakiVagyok> Tammyton: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2240996
[12:19] <Tammyton> 15.10
[12:20] <k1l> Tammyton: that should not be an issue at all to run the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repo
[12:21] <Tammyton> k1l I'll try again. I used the proprietary tested one last time. Does that sound like the correct one?
[12:22] <k1l> thich number is it?
[12:22] <Tammyton> version 352.63 from nvidia-352
[12:22] <k1l> that should work with your card.
[12:23] <Tammyton> k1l cheers I'll try it again I guess
[12:24] <Terens> hello
[12:24] <Terens> I am trying to install ubuntu on a windows laptop
[12:25] <Desetude> EriC^^: sorry to be annoying but attempted to install ubuntu gnome, arc theme and numix icons but now my background is black, cant right click desktop, cant change wallpaper and some parts are still default
[12:25] <Terens> However when I choose something else I dont get any option for resizing like the guide.
[12:25] <EriC^^> Desetude: how did you install the themes? unity-tweak-tool?
[12:27] <Desetude> Actually its all showing nvm that but still black wallpaper
[12:27] <Desetude> I installed through tweak tool yes
[12:28] <Desetude> Oh it works now
[12:29] <Desetude> Had to sett backgrounds to active on gnome thats a stupid setting
[12:36] <Tammyton> k1l Installed that driver again but still no luck
[12:38] <k1l> what exactly is not working?
[12:38] <Tammyton> In display settings it's not showing all of my resolutions for my second monitor
[12:39] <Tammyton> connected with DVI. When I go into screen display it says "unknown display"
[12:39] <k1l> any adapters on that cable?
[12:40] <Tammyton> a dvi to vga adapter
[12:40] <k1l> yes, adapters are known to make issues.
[12:40] <Tammyton> oh
[12:40] <k1l> maybe you need to force the edid then. but i am not to familiar with that
[12:41] <jushur> did you have a forced edid config that is not working after upgrade?
[12:41] <Lorne_> Hey all...I'm running my OS from a small partition, and keep running out of drive space...(laptop) - is there a quick/easy way to tell the system to use external drive for all apps and overflow?
[12:41] <Tammyton> thanks I'll have a look online
[12:42] <Tammyton> jushur it's a new install of ubuntu
[12:43] <jushur> Tammyton: i see. anyhow if you use a converter of any kind, the card most likely does not read the edid info correctly.
[12:43] <Pepe> Hello guys. I have problem. I bought Odroid-C2, everything it's ok. But I install Ubuntu on it, but lsusb shows nothing. What can I do?
[12:44] <Tammyton> jushur alright, just having a look online to see if there's a manual way to do it instead
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> Pepe  is that ARM? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-arm
[12:46] <Pepe> Yes, it's ARM. I will try it there too
[12:46] <Lorne_> ...can anyone pick up my question?  (sorry...don't mean to nag.... :P  )
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Lorne_  simply repeat it every 15 minutes or so, by hitting the up arrow
[12:47] <Lorne_> Hey all...I'm running my OS from a small partition, and keep running out of drive space...(laptop) - is there a quick/easy way to tell the system to use external drive for all apps and overflow?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Lorne_, periodically run, sudo apt autoremove and sudo apt autoclean will keep your / from becoming too full
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Lorne_,  how large is the partition?
[12:51] <Lorne_> BluesKaj thanks - yeah, did that for the last update...15G (split between Files and swap)
[12:52] <Lorne_> BluesKaj The laptop is my "work" win system...I created a small partition to have a personal comp there too
[12:52] <Pepe> MonkeyDust I made there question, but noone responds. I dont know what to do. Because at it seems I am the only one who have this issue. And I dont know how to solve it, maybe reinstall it again?
[12:54] <jushur> Tammyton: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3571/~/managing-a-display-edid-on-linux
[12:56] <Tammyton> jushur: Thanks, I've actually just been in nvidia-settings but the option to acquire edid is greyed out
[12:56] <Tammyton> The monitor is also showing as CRT rather than DFP, if that makes any different
[12:56] <jushur> Tammyton: the monitor has dvi connector?
[12:57] <Tammyton> jushur: The monitor only has a vga connecter. So I have a dvi to vga adapter plugged into the back of my computer
[12:57] <Tammyton> my computer doesn't have a vga port
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Tammyton, if you have a flat panel monitor why are you using the vga input?
[12:59] <jushur> Tammyton: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man1/get-edid.1.html
[12:59] <Tammyton> what do you mean blueskaj?
[13:00] <Tammyton> I'll give that a try jushur
[13:00] <BluesKaj> whynot dvi>dvi
[13:00] <Tammyton> because my monitor doesn't have a dvi port
[13:01] <Tammyton> it does have a HDMI port though, so I'll quickly try the thing jushur sent to see if I can get the edid info
[13:02] <jushur> use the hdmi to extract the info maybe
[13:02] <sancho_panza> hi, my network indicator disappeared from the task bar, i'm using ubuntu studio with xfce (i think is default?)
[13:02] <sancho_panza> what can i do to repristinate?
[13:02] <jushur> id advice to use the hdmi port actually.
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Pepe  yes, it's new technology, you're kind of a pioneer, i guess
[13:02] <Pepe> :D yeah but everyone who has Odroid-C2 have working lsusb but I didnt XD
[13:03] <Tammyton> jushur I would but my computer only has 1 hdmi port which I'm using for a different monitor
[13:03] <Lorne_> Hey all...I'm running my OS from a small partition, and keep running out of drive space...(laptop) - is there a quick/easy way to tell the system to use external drive for all apps and overflow?
[13:03] <Tammyton> maybe I just need to get a different monitor someday
[13:03] <ioria> Tammyton, have you tried installing mesa-utils   ?
[13:04] <Tammyton> no
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Tammyton, then buy a dvi>hdmi cable, it will solve your issue
[13:04] <Tammyton> ohh, I didn't even think of that
[13:04] <BluesKaj> I use on e here, works fin Tammyton
[13:05] <BluesKaj> fine
[13:05] <jushur> Tammyton: use the hdmi to extract the edid info then
[13:05] <guest2479> how can i create a live usb multiboot from ubuntu?
[13:05] <Tammyton> BlueKaj thanks, I'll do that once I have a chance to buy one
[13:05] <Tammyton> jushur how do I install the get-edid thing from the link you gave me?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> guest2479  multisystem can do that ... it's a 3rd party app, not in the repos
[13:06] <ioria> Lorne_, when you install ubuntu  you can choose where to install partitions ... so you could put /var /usr /lib and /home on your external drive
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> guest2479  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[13:06] <guest2479> MonkeyDust,are there any utility I can download from ubuntu software center?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> guest2479  not for multiboot
[13:07] <guest2479> MonkeyDust, and for single live usb?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> guest2479  there's unetbooting (what i use) and startup disk creator
[13:07] <guest2479> MonkeyDust, ok thanks
[13:08] <zhxk82> hello, what will happen when cron jobs excute last longer than period scheduled? miss or duplicate instance?
[13:08] <jushur> Tammyton: sudo apt-get install read-edid
[13:08] <Tammyton> thanks
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> !info read-edid
[13:11] <jushur> Tammyton: first line on the page i linked you says "provided by:packagename" xD
[13:11] <zhxk82> i mean when * * * * * * sleep(999999);other_job installed into cron, will muliti instances in memory after minutes later?
[13:11] <Tammyton> jushur sorry xD this is my first time using linux lol
[13:12] <Tammyton> Alright, I've got the edid. Does that need to go inside a conf file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d?
[13:15] <jushur> Tammyton: read the link i gave with nvidia-settings
[13:15] <hmir_> Question that I have been unable ot find an answer to. I want to use ubuntu to create a bootable USB flash drive with windows 7 and I want to do it with a GPT partition. Possible>
[13:15] <Tammyton> jushur oh yeah, thanks.
[13:15] <jushur> Tammyton: and document what you do, on paper.
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> hmir_  can win7 be made bootable?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> don't think windows has ever had a bootable live media version
[13:19] <hmir_> it doesn
[13:19] <hmir_> t
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> hmir_  then your question makes no sense
[13:21]  * BluesKaj wonders why no windows gurus/devs ever created one
[13:22] <elite> I use ubuntu on my EliteBook 850 and I like to increase the touchpad speed. Under System Setings -> Mouse and Touchpad I set the max. For me it is to slow
[13:22] <elite> I installed 15.10
[13:22] <Tammyton> jushur: If I try to run any commands from nvidia-xconfig it says "unable to locate/open X configuration file"
[13:23] <Tammyton> and to add the directory containing xorg-server.pc to an environment variable
[13:23] <Myrtti> BluesKaj: because most installations and licences are OEMs, for a particular combination of hardware
[13:24] <ioria> Tammyton, https://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2014/01/13/edid-revisted/
[13:24] <BluesKaj> Myrtti, OEMs I get, but for a particular combination of hardware?
[13:25] <jushur> Tammyton: sorry, cant help with that. i dont actually use the binary nvidia blob my self.
[13:25] <Tammyton> ioria thanks
[13:25] <Tammyton> oh alright, thanks anyway
[13:26] <h4k1m> hello
[13:26] <minimec> elite: Maybe you can increase the spped with dconf-editor... Look here http://askubuntu.com/questions/254847/how-do-i-adjust-the-pointer-speed-and-scrolling-speed-of-a-trackpad
[13:27] <h4k1m> I have a 'bluetoothd: Permission denied' in my /var/log/syslog when I try to connect via bluetooth to my wireless speaker
[13:27] <jushur> Tammyton: looks like the solution in the link ioria linked should be what you need.
[13:27] <h4k1m> although it used to work just a day ago
[13:27] <h4k1m> any workaround to this problem?
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> h4k1m  install blueman
[13:28] <ioria> Tammyton,  if mesa-utils does not solve the issue , you'll need a /etc/X11/xorg.conf   .....
[13:28] <h4k1m> MonkeyDust: I installed it I had the same issue (no connection)
[13:28] <h4k1m> I meant failed connection
[13:28] <h4k1m> MonkeyDust: should I remove what's installed now, before installing blueman?
[13:29] <Tammyton> ioria sorry but where do I find mesa-utils?
[13:29] <ioria> !info mesa-utils
[13:30] <Tammyton> thanks
[13:30] <elite> minimec:I tryed dconf-editor yet. But I do not have the touchpad entry under org -> gnome -> settings-daemon -> peripherals   ???
[13:30] <ioria> Tammyton,  you'll need reboot
[13:31] <jushur> ioria: thanks for that link, it fixed an issue i had here with a 4K monitor.
[13:32] <ioria> jushur, ^_^
[13:32] <minimec> elite: I have seen that on one of my laptops. So I guess the touchpad is recognized as normal mouse (that would explain the acceleration problem. Maybe you can configure the driver or just try to increase acceleration for the mouse.
[13:35] <h4k1m> the issue Im facing is with bluetoothd not the manager
[13:37] <Tammyton> about to reboot, fingers crossed lol
[13:40] <Tammyton> it didn't work, but I'm fairly sure I've done something wrong
[13:40] <sancho_panza>  hi everybody! my network indicator disappeared from the status bar, what can i do?
[13:41] <ioria> Tammyton,  in terminal run  glxinfo | grep render    and after      glxgears
[13:41] <Tammyton> Yep, just done that
[13:42] <ioria> Tammyton,  can you paste the first output ?
[13:42] <jushur> sancho_panza: ask the guys running xfce? #xubuntu
[13:42] <Tammyton> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/15372868/
[13:43] <sancho_panza> jushur, ty
[13:44] <elite> minimec: The accelaration of the mouse is too set to max. When I do a cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i synaptics I get [    23.900] (**) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) MaxSpeed is now 1.75
[13:44] <elite> So i guess I have to increase this value
[13:44] <ioria> Tammyton,   if still not working,  go through the link posted before ( https://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2013/08/23/adventures-in-resolving-missing-edid-monitor-data/ ), you need to create a xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[13:45] <Tammyton> yup I've got one in there and added a monitor section
[13:46] <Tammyton> That's what I've just done. I wasn't sure how to do the mesa-utils thing
[13:46] <ioria> Tammyton,   sorry, this https://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2014/01/13/edid-revisted/
[13:47] <minimec> elite: exactly. Maybe you can try to do that with xinput too. See here... http://askubuntu.com/questions/172972/configure-mouse-speed-not-pointer-acceleration
[13:47] <Tammyton> ioria maybe this helps a bit? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15372914/
[13:48] <Tammyton> perhaps I added something in there wrong?
[13:48] <elite> minimec: I tryed to set synclient MaxSpeed=100
[13:48] <elite>  the original value is 1.75 but there is no difference
[13:49] <minimec> elite: I would try something like 2.25 or so. 100 seems to be out of range.
[13:51] <elite> minimec: It was not the MaxSpeed I set up now the MinSpeed from 1 to 3 and it works
[13:52] <ioria> Tammyton,   i think you just need a Section "Monitor" with the correct Modeline ... you can backup that file, create a new one following the the link posted above
[13:52] <Pepe> lsusb  wont work? It didnt shows anything. What can I do?
[13:52] <utsav> hello there, i am having problem booting ubuntu, it says "error: file '/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-44-generic' not found
[13:52] <Tammyton> ioria thanks, will do
[13:52] <elite> Now I like to increase the speed of the TrackPoint
[13:52] <utsav> Error : you need to load the kernel first
[13:53] <utsav> I tried googlling as well
[13:53] <ioria> Tammyton,   good luck
[13:53] <utsav> But couldn't find the solution
[13:53] <utsav> Can anybody help here !! my ubuntu version is 14.04
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> utsav  how did you try to install, dvd/usb? is this your first installation?
[13:54] <minimec> elite: cool
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> utsav  and where did you find the iso
[13:55] <utsav> @MonkeyDust via USB
[13:55] <utsav> from the official ubuntu website
[13:55] <utsav> Actually i was fixing dependencies on ubuntu
[13:55] <utsav> when this problem occurred
[13:55] <utsav> I was following a blog, which went wrong and came up this way
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> utsav  always make sure you have backups
[13:59] <utsav> @MonkeyDUst
[13:59] <utsav> Any way bro ?
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> utsav  undo what you did, following the blog, then backup
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> and ask here
[14:03] <elite> minimec: Thanks for your input. Maybe you have an idea for the trackpoint
[14:05] <novice> hello anyone willing to help?
[14:07] <utsav> I just want to backup my mysql databases
[14:07] <minimec> elite: On my lenovo ThinkPad, the trackpoint has its own ID. If that is the case for your device too, you should be able to configure it with "xinput --set-prop"
[14:13] <elite> minimec: xinput list
[14:13] <elite> ⎡ Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
[14:13] <elite> ⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[14:13] <elite> ⎜   ↳ PS/2 Generic Mouse                      	id=11	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[14:13] <elite> ⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad              	id=12	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[14:13] <elite> ⎣ Virtual core keyboard                   	id=3	[master keyboard (2)]
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> elite  next time, use a pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:17] <elite> MonkeyDust: Sure
[14:17] <floka> can you please help me how to mount a file and use it witout being root?
[14:17] <floka> Could you please
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> floka  you mount a device to a folder, you don't mount files
[14:18] <floka> you can mount files.images
[14:19] <floka> I have one mounted but it needs route
[14:19] <floka> root
[14:19] <floka> I can not use it with roo
[14:19] <floka> root
[14:20] <bipul> floka, What you wants to mount?
[14:21] <floka> I already mounted a image file
[14:21] <bipul> ok, so where is the problem?
[14:21] <floka> but I want to be able to write on the newly mounted image file as a regular user
[14:21] <floka> so i guess I must be able to mount it as a regular user
[14:21] <floka> dont know
[14:22] <floka> see, when I plug usb pen drive ubuntu mounts it and regular user can write to iy
[14:22] <samad> llo
[14:22] <samad> hello
[14:22] <bipul> Yes, then we can access it.
[14:22] <floka> however when I mount my own partitions of my my system drive I must be root in order to use them
[14:22] <floka> how to avoid that
[14:22] <bipul> floka, Yes.
[14:23] <minimec> elite: Maybe try to configure the PS/2 Generic Mouse?
[14:23] <bipul> set the permission.
[14:23] <tonyt> mkdir ~/img
[14:23] <tonyt> mount -t udf filename.img ~/img -o loop
[14:23] <bipul> set the permission or add your self to that group.
[14:23] <floka> tonyt: if I mount your way only root will be able to wite to that disk
[14:25] <floka> explain if you know why usb drives mounting works without adding myself to any groups and without setting any permissions
[14:26] <sevenup__> because it's udev who mounts
[14:26] <sevenup__> and it sets uid for your user
[14:26] <floka> how to make that udev mount my file.img
[14:27] <sevenup__> not sure, editing /etc/fstab?
[14:27] <sevenup__> better wait for a best answer
[14:27] <floka> ok
[14:30] <nomic> yeah - usb auto mounts
[14:35] <Tammyton> Got it working! :)
[14:41] <fuzzybear3965> Which folders are tmpfs in Ubuntu?
[14:42] <fuzzybear3965> How do I figure out which ones are tmpfs?
[14:42] <Armony> hi
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> Pepe  you should specify that it's on Odroid / ARM
[14:44] <Pepe> ok, its solved now
[14:49] <guest-SpVOAo> Windows7
[14:49] <minimec> fuzzybear3965: /dev/shm is a standard /tmpfs on unix like systems I think. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/what-is-devshm-and-its-practical-usage.html
[14:51] <minimec> fuzzybear3965: On newer systems /dev/shm is a link to /run/shm ...
[14:51] <fuzzybear3965> minimec, That makes sense.
[14:51] <fuzzybear3965> The easiest way to identify all tmpfs directories seems to be `df -lh`.
[14:51] <fuzzybear3965> *`df`.
[14:54] <codythefox> hi
[14:54] <codythefox> hello?
[14:55] <codythefox> is anyone there?
[14:55] <rashivar> i am here
[14:55] <codythefox> Oh, okay
[14:55] <codythefox> hi
[14:55] <rashivar> hello
[14:56] <codythefox> how're you?
[14:56] <ouroumov> !ot | codythefox
[14:56] <apatters> quit
[14:57] <codythefox> rash?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> ouroumov, just how someone is, is not an offense
[14:57] <BluesKaj> codythefox, do you have an ubuntu support question
[14:58] <virtuosoj> I have a certain app that won't show up in dash when I search it
[14:58] <ren0v0> Hi, all of a sudden my speakers are crackling when computer is under more load, how would i go about diagnosing the issue?
[14:58] <virtuosoj> is there a way to fix this?
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> virtuosoj  make sure it's in /usr/share/applications/
[14:59] <BluesKaj> ren0v0, crackling ? clipping ?, overdriving can cause that when those little amps run out of power.
[14:59] <virtuosoj> there's a shortcut/icon already in usr/share/applications
[14:59] <virtuosoj> but it leads to usr/games/crawl-tiles
[15:00] <virtuosoj> the app in question is Dungeon Crawl tiles version, downloaded fromm software center 15.10
[15:00] <ren0v0> BluesKaj, I'm using onboard sound, i just bought some Logitech Z533's. I think it was ok a few days ago and now i'm experiencing issues, debating buying a sound card to see if that helps
[15:00] <ren0v0> and yes, crackling, and hissing when music paused etc
[15:03] <jannis> hey
[15:04] <BluesKaj> ren0v0, you have one volume ctrl turned up in the chain but the input volume might be too low so you're amplifying the noise as well so you signal to noise is poor
[15:06] <BluesKaj> ren0v0, open alsamixer in the terminal and turn up the Master,PCM and Front
[15:07] <ren0v0> BluesKaj,  they are all on max :(
[15:08] <ren0v0> sounds is actually very bad, there is a sub in my setup and there is virtually no output to it
[15:09] <a10194> good day
[15:11] <BluesKaj> ren0v0, check your cable connection to the computer and make sure your mics are turned off if you have any
[15:12] <ren0v0> BluesKaj, no MIC, cable is fine
[15:13] <BluesKaj> ren0v0, usually the sub has the speaker connections, is this the setup you have
[15:13] <ren0v0> BluesKaj, yea
[15:15] <BluesKaj> ren0v0, check the volume ctls on the speakers/sub, just stating the obvious , but I have to
[15:15] <ren0v0> BluesKaj, it has a remote control, thats what i'm using to control volume
[15:16] <ren0v0> BluesKaj, as i say the sub is literally like its not there
[15:16] <ren0v0> this is on top of the crackling, but i'd love to know if its ubuntu/driver related before sending it back
[15:17] <BluesKaj> maybe you could ask a freind to check your speakers on his computer, ren
[15:17] <BluesKaj> ren0v0,^
[15:17] <ren0v0> hehe no so ideal no :P
[15:18] <ren0v0> i'm really looking here to find out more about sound on ubuntu, if there is anything i can check/monitor
[15:18] <BluesKaj> ren0v0, I doubt very much if it's the driver
[15:18] <ren0v0> i just feel something isn't right since i upgraded to 15.10. i have an old logitech system that i was using before and that was just great
[15:19] <justAnotherNick> question: why does "os-prober" detect my debian installation (with missing grub configs), but not ubuntu?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> you have something not setup correctly or the speakers are either defective or they are pickinging RF interference from a device nearby
[15:19] <BluesKaj> ren0v0,^
[15:21] <BluesKaj> ren0v0, does the sub have a master volume ctrl on it ? If so crank it up
[15:21] <ren0v0> nope
[15:21] <BluesKaj> a remote vol ctl cant make the volume louder then the master
[15:22] <BluesKaj> than
[15:22] <ren0v0> BluesKaj, i can only turn it to 50-60%
[15:22] <ren0v0> without blowing my eardrums
[15:23] <BluesKaj> leave it at 50-60% then turn it down with the remote
[15:24] <ren0v0> BluesKaj, just connected speakers to my old sub and remote, completely different levels, so maybe the new setup is faulty
[15:24] <ren0v0> BluesKaj, i was talking about remote, i always use source at 100%
[15:25] <BluesKaj> most amplifiers will peak  over 100% of out put power at 50% on the volume ctrl
[15:26] <ren0v0> BluesKaj, i'm not sure at all what you're suggesting
[15:26] <ren0v0> and not sure what difference it will make to the issue tierh
[15:27] <BluesKaj> signal to noise , if you bring the imaster volume up too high you amplify the noise floor as well
[15:32] <marus> http://paste.debian.net/414819/ can any one tell me what's wrong with my source.list?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> marus, google chrome puts a plugin into your sourceslist.d , like a ppa , but for some reason it doesn't update ...perhaps installing a neewr version tof the browser will fix your issue which really cna be ignored if your browser works ok
[15:37] <BluesKaj> scuse my spelling mistakes, but you get my drift I hope, marus
[15:37] <marus> BluesKaj:thanks a lot :-)
[15:38] <ioria> marus, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/fix-failed-to-fetch-google-chrome-apt-error-ubuntu
[15:41] <marus> ioria: nice one thanks
[15:41] <ioria> marus, you're welcome
[15:58] <bodom> Hi there! My audio stopped working with apparent no reason, could anyone help?
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> !sound | bodom
[16:02] <bodom> lotuspsychje: thank you. Following the troubleshotting guide, step 2. I can play sound as root but not as normal user. What does it mean?
[16:03] <bodom> (adding my user to the "audio" group doesn't change anything)
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> bodom: try to create another user and test sound from there, maybe it got borked on current user
[16:11] <son-goku> hello
[16:11] <son-goku> hi
[16:12] <son-goku> anyone available?
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> !ask | son-goku
[16:15] <son-goku> I recently tried to configure Plex media server on my ubuntu. Plex was finally able to display the folder containing media files. But after shut down my Ubuntu boots to Emergency mode. What I did was put the Ubuntu Live USB and then as a root user commented out the changes in the fstab that i made earlier while configuring Plex. Now Ubuntu boots no
[16:15] <son-goku> rmally again. But is there any way I can configure plex and boot normally next time I shut down. I must have messed up something in the fstab :P
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> !find plex
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> son-goku  is that on a raspberry pi?
[16:20] <son-goku> MonkeyDust :/ my HP laptop doesn't have raspberry pi
[16:21] <son-goku> i followed these instructions from askubuntu forum to configure the fstab : https://dpaste.de/jkfS
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> son-goku  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntustudio
[16:22] <son-goku> ok
[16:35] <vdevnull> Hi people
[16:35] <vdevnull> how do i show all usb connected?
[16:35] <EriC^^> vdevnull: lsusb and sudo parted -l
[16:35] <nullius> lsusb vdevnull
[16:36] <vdevnull> shiiiiiiiiit
[16:36] <vdevnull> my usb dongle seems not support linux
[16:36] <vdevnull> only .exe files in there
[16:36] <thecyclone> !language
[16:39] <minimec> vdevnull: You might have to ad some firmware file.
[16:40] <hyperturbo> Particle acceleration using citywide wifi device*ashland, or  Http://magizian.net:8080
[16:41] <brunchbb> Is it possible to modify /etc/shadow and change your password?
[16:41] <daftykins> brunchbb: what are you really trying to do?
[16:42] <daftykins> if you want to change a password you forgot, boot recovery mode
[16:42] <brunchbb> just curious
[16:44] <llutz> brunchbb: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/76313/change-password-of-a-user-in-etc-shadow
[16:45] <Mizmaar> Ubuntu is not giving option of my maximum display resolution - what to do??
[16:45] <daftykins> Mizmaar: share /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:45] <daftykins> it is a log file which can help discover why it isn't using the native resolution
[16:46] <Mizmaar> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15374789/
[16:48] <daftykins> Mizmaar: this is 15.10? desktop or laptop?
[16:48] <Mizmaar> desktop
[16:48] <Mizmaar> actually it is ubuntu kylin
[16:48] <Mizmaar> 15.10
[16:49] <daftykins> Mizmaar: does your monitor support something other than the VGA cable you're using it with?
[16:49] <daftykins> or rather, does the computer have something newer than VGA to output with, too? :D
[16:50] <skitoxe> allright boys, i have a question regarding multi-touch on ubuntu mate with synaptic drivers. Is it possible? i can't get it to work no matter which combos i try. Any tips?
[16:54] <skitoxe> allright boys, i have a question regarding multi-touch on ubuntu mate with synaptic drivers. Is it possible? i can't get it to work no matter which combos i try. Any tips?
[16:54] <daftykins> don't repeat so soon, be patient
[16:54] <daftykins> Mizmaar: so?
[16:54] <skitoxe> daftykins: my bad :(
[16:54] <Bashing-om> skitoxe: What release ? Driver available ? ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics<-lts-wily> ' ??
[16:55] <skitoxe> im infuriated atm
[16:55] <daftykins> ok, but your mood does not mean others should suffer :)
[16:56] <skitoxe> Bashing-om: mate 15.10 drivers are 1.8.2
[16:58] <Bashing-om> skitoxe: You could try System icon in upper right of the panel then System Settings ---> Mouse/Touchpad and make sure that the touchpad is on.
[16:59] <skitoxe> Bashing-om: the touchpad is ok, i cant get it to register 3 or 4 finger drags with touchegg
[16:59] <skitoxe> Bashing-om: 2 finger scrolling works fine
[17:01] <Bashing-om> skitoxe: Sorry, no other ideas . Not experienced enough to further advise.
[17:01] <skitoxe> Bashing-om: allright! Thanks anyway mate!
[17:03] <jerry_> I am very new.
[17:03] <jerry_> I am playing with ubuntu studio.
[17:04] <jerry_> I would like to switch to ubuntu. how do I do this within ubuntu studio??
[17:05] <daftykins> it's already ubuntu but with a bunch more packages
[17:05] <skitoxe> jerry_: ubuntu studio is ubuntu
[17:06] <daftykins> if you want vanilla, just get the actual normal ISO.
[17:06] <skitoxe> it's only what's pre-installed on it that differs from other distributions
[17:06] <jerry_> I have it on a USB but when I restart it doesn't boot up with the USB.
[17:07] <skitoxe> jerry_: you need to enter your bios during setup and change the boot order to boot from usb
[17:08] <skitoxe> also, make sure the usb is actually a bootable usb and not just an image file copied onto it
[17:08] <jerry_> thank you, but I have done that. Still boots into Ubuntu Studio
[17:08] <daftykins> using a one time boot menu is better, adjusting boot order is an amateur approach
[17:08] <skitoxe> then something is off with the usb, are you sure it is bootable?
[17:09] <jerry_> I used UUI to make it.
[17:09] <skitoxe> daftykins: depends on which efi u have, not all allow that operation
[17:09] <ar> Hi. I have a desktop computer (not a laptop, no "hybrid graphics" or anything like that is involved) with integrated intel graphics and discrete nvidia. ubuntu tries to use the integrated intel graphics despite nvidia drivers being installed. how does one disable the integrated graphics? there's no option for that in bios
[17:10] <jerry_> again...Please forgive. I'm am very new and just making the switch.
[17:11] <skitoxe> jerry_: if the bios is set up correctly and the usb is bootable then i dont know why it wouldnt boot. sry mate
[17:11] <feross_> hello, whats tha name of the bar in the top right where are the indicators?
[17:12] <skitoxe> feross_: depends on which desktop enviroment you are using
[17:12] <jerry_> Thank you.
[17:12] <daftykins> ar: can you share "lspci" in a paste?
[17:12] <feross_> skitoxe: compiz
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> feross_: whats it for?
[17:13] <skitoxe> feross_: thats your window manager, are you using unity =
[17:13] <skitoxe> ?
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> feross_: searching new indicators?
[17:13] <feross_> lotuspsychje: before three days it crash..now i can't click up there and the time and battery usage is the same three days..some times its turn black the howl bar
[17:14] <feross_> skitoxe: yes 14.04
[17:14] <feross_> lotuspsychje:  no i got a bug
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> feross_: installed indicators with a ppa?
[17:14] <skitoxe> feross_: then i belive it's just refered to as the unity "top panel"
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> gnome-panel
[17:15] <ar> daftykins: you don't belive me, do you? http://sprunge.us/MPeV
[17:15] <feross_> skitoxe: the bar works in gnome and unity
[17:15] <skitoxe> feross_: then it's gnome-panel
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> feross_: what kinf of graphics card chipset and driver?
[17:16] <daftykins> ar: i just prefer to check these things rather than assume - you'd be surprised how easy it is to be led astray.
[17:16] <daftykins> ar: alright, have you poked around in your BIOS/EFI for a setting to prevent both being enabled at the same time?
[17:16] <feross_> lotuspsychje:  i don't know i using intel
[17:16] <ar> daftykins: yes - there's no such setting
[17:16] <feross_> skitoxe: the first time has come a message somthing with bug and re-load indicator
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> feross_: do you have a screenshot of the disformed indicator section?
[17:17] <feross_> sorry for my bad english
[17:17] <daftykins> ar: and how does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log look? i take it you only have displays attached to the card
[17:17] <ar> daftykins: there's only the "init display first", where pci-e graphics are selected. grub gets displayed on the screen connected to nvidia graphics.
[17:17] <feross_> lotuspsychje: yes
[17:17] <ar> daftykins: it doesn't get updated
[17:17] <floka> how to mount hard disk ext3 partion as a rw for everybody?
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> feross_: can you share plz?
[17:17] <feross_> lotuspsychje:  how?
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> feross_: imgur, tinypic
[17:18] <feross_> lotuspsychje: i am noob can you guide me?
[17:18] <daftykins> ar: the file should show the entire X starting process, so i'd like to see it
[17:18] <ar> daftykins: really - i need to disable i915. how does one do that on ubuntu?
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> feross_: well those are picture sharing websites, that can provide you a link to the photo
[17:18] <ar> on gentoo i just wouldn't compile the driver…
[17:18] <homa>  hi my friends
[17:18] <feross_> lotuspsychje:  ok i will give a try
[17:19] <daftykins> ar: you would blacklist the module - but i still want to see the log.
[17:19] <Mizmaar> daftykins: sorry...I think it might support HDMI??
[17:20] <daftykins> Mizmaar: if you have the sockets at both ends it'd be easier to get yourself a cable then - VGA causes no end of trouble
[17:20] <feross_> lotuspsychje: http://tinypic.com/r/902gic/9
[17:20] <feross_> when its black
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> feross_: hmm are you on gnome fallback?
[17:21] <feross_> yes
[17:22] <ar> daftykins: too late. blacklisted the i915 module in /etc/modprobe.d/ and updated initramfs. worked
[17:22] <feross_> lotuspsychje: it happen only with compiz and metacity
[17:22] <feross_> lotuspsychje: http://tinypic.com/r/w8xsn6/9 this is what i see three days now
[17:22] <daftykins> ar: well of course it worked :P and not even any thanks eh? crikey you were a bit of a grumpy type.
[17:22] <feross_> and i can't click at anyof the indicators
[17:22] <ar> daftykins: thanks
[17:22] <daftykins> ;)
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> feross_: ok, what did the bug say after login to gnome fallback?
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | daftykins
[17:23] <daftykins> 8D
[17:24] <feross_> i don't realy remember but i remember that i try to click in the option with re-load indicator
[17:24] <feross_> but nothing happens
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> feross_: do you have this on unity also?
[17:24] <feross_> lotuspsychje: no
[17:24] <feross_> lotuspsychje: when i login with gnome or unity its ok
[17:24] <feross_> lotuspsychje: its only in metacity and compiz
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> feross_: maybe re-login into gnome-fallback, and see what error/bug you getting
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> feross_: might be compiz bug at start
[17:25] <floka> what is lost+found directory for?
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> !lost
[17:25] <feross_> lotuspsychje: nothing happes....i try alot of times
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> feross_: are you up to date to 14.04.4?
[17:25] <feross_> lotuspsychje: i unistall fallback and re-install
[17:26] <feross_> how can i check it?
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> feross_: lsb_release -a
[17:26] <k1l> floka: its a folder where files are put that got corrupted and found again by the filesystem
[17:26] <feross_> lotuspsychje:  yes 14.04.4
[17:26] <floka> which command does that - finding corrupted files n fs?
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> feross_: ok great, maybe check your syslog it might spit out some errors
[17:27] <k1l> floka: fsck
[17:27] <feross_> lotuspsychje: how can i check it?
[17:27] <floka> thanks
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> feross_: there is the logviewer icon, or manually browse to /var/log/syslog
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> !paste | feross_ you can share it tu us
[17:32] <Thor___> hello
[17:33] <Thor___> whois Drone'
[17:33] <Thor___> exit
[17:33] <daftykins> -_-
[17:35] <k1l> Drone` is one of the channel bots.
[17:36] <feross_> lotuspsychje: i am looking for 10 march
[17:36] <daftykins> bit late
[17:37] <feross_> lotuspsychje: the date that crash
[17:42] <feross_> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15375588/
[17:42] <feross_> its the day that crash
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> feross_: uname -a please?
[17:44] <feross_> Linux Len-ideapad-100-15IBYovo 3.19.0-51-generic #58~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 26 22:03:27 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> feross_: you should be on 3.13.0-79-generic
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> feross_: you sure your on 14.04.4?
[17:47] <feross_> lotuspsychje: i don't know what is that
[17:47] <feross_> yes
[17:47] <feross_> lotuspsychje:  i am using some months ubuntu
[17:48] <barajasfab> hey guys, when I press the super key on my computer, the active window disappears. It doesn't close out though. Has anyone ever run into this before?
[17:49] <feross_> lotuspsychje:  http://tinypic.com/r/169gmci/9
[17:52] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic vivid
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> feross_: did you install 14.04 fresh or upgrade from another version?
[17:53] <feross_> lotuspsychje:  fresh, i downloaded burnit and install
[17:53] <feross_> i was using othe (badname) OS
[17:53]  * daftykins scowls
[17:56] <zeryx> yo I just installed 15.04 on my second laptop, it seems like there's absolutely no wifi network discovery modules installed at all
[17:57] <daftykins> 15.04 is EOL so we can't help you with it
[17:57] <zeryx> is that a new update to 15.04? I seem to remember it working out of the box when I installed it on here
[17:57] <daftykins> reinstall a supported release such as 15.10
[17:57] <zeryx> daftykins, 15.10 crashes and doesn't run properly on the other laptop
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> zeryx   install 14.04 or 15.10, then ask again
[17:57] <daftykins> then try 16.04
[17:57] <zeryx> nouveu driver conflict
[17:57] <daftykins> that's easily remedied.
[17:57] <zeryx> nomodeset is required to get anywhere at all
[17:58] <zeryx> and constant freezing / crashing with 15.10
[17:58] <daftykins> yeah, again... common.
[17:58] <daftykins> !15.04
[17:58] <zeryx> I'll try reverting to 14.04 in that case if that'll help
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> zeryx  then try 14.04 ... 15.04 is dead
[17:58] <daftykins> no help will be provided for a dead release.
[17:58] <zeryx> I didn't know it was dead, no probs
[17:58] <daftykins> 14.04.4 media would be wise to download
[17:58] <zeryx> it's already downloaded thankfully
[17:58] <daftykins> but i think 16.04 beta would make more sense since we're a month from release
[17:59] <daftykins> zeryx: yeah but 14.04.4? or earlier...
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> !bug | feross_ against gnome fallback
[17:59] <metrixx> how can i install vxlan module on ubuntu 16.04
[17:59] <metrixx> or find the necessary package for it
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> metrixx: #ubuntu+1 plz
[17:59] <zeryx> I'll try 16.04 and see if I still have the noveau driver conflicts
[17:59] <daftykins> that can be fixed as i've said 3 times now
[17:59] <zeryx> daftykins, I know I "fixed" it with blacklisting nouveau & installing bumblebee
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> zeryx  i'm using 16.04, it's completely stable, especially the video/screen
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> it's not*
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> zeryx: bumblebee is outdated
[18:00] <zeryx> ahh, I've been going off of google searching to try and problem solve, I guess that's not the correct way for problems like this
[18:01] <feross_> lotuspsychje: display X.org or other bug?
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> feross_: i would go for gnome fallback bug, as the indicator section is black
[18:01] <zeryx> thanks for the quick response & help on this daftykins, I've been trying to fight this since friday
[18:01] <zeryx> intel integrated graphics & nvidia discrete GPU pains
[18:02] <feross_> lotuspsychje: ubuntu-bug gnome fallback bug, as the indicator section is black <- ?
[18:02] <stangeland> 16.04 is coming out end april?
[18:02] <feross_> WARNING **: Couldn't register with accessibility bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> !xenial | stangeland
[18:04] <stangeland> h april 21st
[18:04] <stangeland> *ah
[18:06] <floka> when I write a look while true .... do I put semicolon ; after while true; , then do I need to write ; anywhere else?
[18:06] <floka> *loop
[18:06] <EriC^^> floka: yeah, before done
[18:07] <EriC^^> while true; do ... ; done
[18:07] <feross_> lotuspsychje: now i have to wait?
[18:08] <feross_> lotuspsychje: can you suggest me what to search in internet?maybe i someone else got the same problem ,, i am trying to search for can't click indicator ubuntu fallback
[18:10] <floka> EriC^^:  like that ? http://kickasspastes.com/13245/
[18:10] <bguy123> i came to party
[18:10] <bguy123> test out irc
[18:10] <bguy123> someone get in my dm
[18:11] <bguy123> direct private message
[18:11] <bguy123> lets do this
[18:11] <bguy123> im in toronto
[18:11] <bguy123> where yall at
[18:11] <bguy123> ????
[18:11] <nullius> lol
[18:11] <daftykins> no chat in here bguy123 - take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:11] <EriC^^> floka: yup, you can use while sleep 3m; do echo ..; done too
[18:12] <floka> I want every min something to be written to the hdd
[18:12] <floka> every 3 min
[18:12] <EriC^^> yeah, that does that too
[18:12] <floka> I dont get it
[18:12] <floka> while sleep and it should all pause
[18:12] <EriC^^> it'll run sleep 3m; and stay there, after 3m sleep 3m will return true, and while will do its thing
[18:13] <EriC^^> and it keeps repeating
[18:13] <charlie__2> sorry guys, Piding on Windows ships with Cyrus SASL 2.10.26 and can log in to XMPP servers if hashed passwords are stored (Prosody). Apparently 14.04 still uses 2.10.25 and that allegedly is to be consider ancient. However, I can't log in to Prosody whenever libsasl2 comes into play. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cyrus-sasl2/+bugs it seems to have a whole lot of issues. What do you suggest?
[18:13] <floka> I see
[18:14] <zeryx> when creating a bootable disk, is the best method to "restore disk image" via the disk image writer?
[18:14] <zeryx> seems to be the only method that works properly on my system
[18:19] <daftykins> zeryx: i'd use dd or cp via terminal
[18:19] <daftykins> not sure what this disk image writer you speak of, is
[18:20] <zeryx> rightclick an ISO image, open as gives you an option
[18:21] <zeryx> found it in the bowels of SO
[18:22] <zeryx> ok so just checking without setting nomodeset on the installer, I'm getting soft-lockup from " detect the available gpu sand deal with system changes"
[18:22] <zeryx> gpu-manager:1427
[18:22] <zeryx> (during the installation pre-processing of 16.04)
[18:23] <zeryx> "A start job is running for Ubuntu live CD installer" & "A start job is running for Detect the available GPUs and deal with any system changes" are the two hangs
[18:25] <zeryx> its not freezing with 16.04 though; major improvement
[18:28] <Wendigo_Psycho> Hi!
[18:29] <floka> How to change permissons from drwxr-xr-x to drwxrwxrwx  ?
[18:29] <feross_> !paste
[18:29] <daftykins> floka: what are you trying to do? those permissions suggest you're doing something wrong
[18:30] <floka> wrong or not I want to do it
[18:30] <Wendigo_Psycho> bye
[18:30] <feross_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15376258/
[18:30] <feross_> can someone help me?
[18:30] <daftykins> only scripts or programs need executable rights
[18:30] <daftykins> floka: then you will have to deal with someone else :)
[18:31] <floka> I want to  mount ext3 partion to be rw for regular user
[18:31] <daftykins> floka: then change your mount command or /etc/fstab entry to mount correctly
[18:31] <daftykins> 777 perms won't fix that.
[18:31] <floka> no without fstab
[18:32] <daftykins> so manual mount?
[18:32] <floka> I created directory gave it 777 access and do mount /dev1 /destination -o rw  it is not enough
[18:32] <daftykins> no that's wrong
[18:32] <floka> how to do it
[18:35] <ledtc> Hey guys so im trying to  install another operating system but when it tries to format the drive i get this error ... error fsyncing/closing /dev/sda input/output error
[18:39] <daftykins> floka: first unmount it then "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mountpoint -o rw,user" assuming sdb1.
[18:41] <Mizmaar> daftykins: Sorry but my monitor does not have HDMI input
[18:42] <ledtc> flopsec: cant find mmcblk0 in /etc/fstab
[18:42] <daftykins> Mizmaar: VGA is the only choice?
[18:42] <daftykins> ledtc: what kind of device is that?
[18:43] <Mizmaar> Yes
[18:43] <ledtc> flopsec:   Chromeboko, need ot sda1 not sda, any how -ext3 unknown filesystem
[18:43] <daftykins> Mizmaar: ah that's not good, maybe try pastebin'ing "xrandr"
[18:43] <Mizmaar> by running cvt and xrander I can change the resolution temporarily
[18:44] <daftykins> oh ok so it does list it?
[18:44] <daftykins> or you have to generate a modeline and add it first?
[18:44] <Mizmaar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15376440/
[18:45] <Mizmaar> No it doesn't list it...I have to tell it to generate modeline
[18:47] <ledtc> Error fsyncing/closing /dev/mcblk0pmb input/output error
[18:47] <floka> daftykins: your command did not succeeded
[18:47] <Anthony-L> hello, I've been having trouble restart and it seems that Ubuntu fights over which gpu drivers to use. I'm currently using nvidia proprietary and would like to blacklist/uninstall nouveau drivers, so I can successfully restart my steam. any help would be appreciate?
[18:47] <floka> it was not enough to make the mount point rw for users
[18:47] <daftykins> floka: probably because you haven't provided the full details of the situation or corrected the command to the specifics of your system
[18:48] <feross_> can't click anywhere in the right top gnome-panel its stuck and when i try to run it from terminal its take me a bug error
[18:48] <daftykins> Mizmaar: ok you'll have to create a custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf with that modeline to set it at boot then
[18:48] <Mizmaar> can u help??
[18:48] <daftykins> no
[18:48] <daftykins> plenty of guides and examples online though
[18:48] <SierraKomodo> Any ideas why apache2 would be giving 403 forbidden errors when the director this virtualhost is pointing to is owned by www-data and has standard permissions? (755 for folders, 644 for files)
[18:49] <BottomNotch> I'm trying to install winswitch on 15.10 with these instructions: bit.ly/1Ua3ltZ.  How long should apt-get install software-properties-common >& /dev/null; from step 2 take?  It's been at least 15 minutes since it started.
[18:49] <SierraKomodo> directory*
[18:51] <SchrodingersScat> !info winswitch | BottomNotch
[18:51] <floka> this should be achievable , mount point with rw for all users not just root
[18:51] <floka> I think I might try something else
[18:52] <daftykins> it is achievable
[18:52] <daftykins> floka: all users should be a member of the same group, then the ownership set as that group.
[18:52] <daftykins> perhaps you're just new to permissions
[18:52] <daftykins> also ext3 is old
[18:52] <floka> old new, same thing
[18:52] <BottomNotch> SchrodingersScat, not really an answer to my question, but I figured it out anyways,  I needed to press return to confirm that I wanted to install it.
[18:53] <daftykins> floka: err no, i'm going to stop assisting now as you don't make any sense.
[18:54] <floka> as you keli
[18:54] <floka> like
[18:54] <SchrodingersScat> BottomNotch: it is, because the repos are the recommended way to install things.  Yes, that's an odd thing for them to pipe to dev-null.
[18:54] <zeryx> daftykins, for my specific problem of the gpu-manager not loading properly; would the easiest way to get my install to become stable to blacklist nouveau and nothing else?
[18:54] <zeryx> I'm now on 14.04
[18:55] <daftykins> gave up that easy huh? sorry i'm busy right now.
[18:55] <zeryx> (I have an MSI WS60 laptop that has an integrated intel GPU with a nvidia processing GPU)
[18:55] <zeryx> ok no probs, do you have any recommendations on where to look outside of random google searching?
[18:56] <daftykins> sounds like optimus in which case an nvidia-### driver coupled with nvidia-prime at the same time should work just fine
[18:56] <daftykins> from the repos, don't go trying to download something from nvidia
[18:56] <zeryx> ok cool that's what I was thinking would od it
[18:56] <daftykins> lol.
[18:56] <daftykins> which is why you've had all these problems this entire time, but you've known the answer
[18:56] <zeryx> the biggest worry for me is lspci doesn't list my real discrete GPU as a VGA option
[18:57] <zeryx> it kept crashing while doing that on 15.10
[18:57] <daftykins> that doesn't actually make any sense, pastebin it.
[18:57] <BluesKaj> zeryx, have you chosen the pci gpu as defiault in the uefi/bios ?
[18:58] <zeryx> BluesKaj, my bios gives no options for any peripherals; which is mind boggling
[18:59] <BluesKaj> mine doesn't have peripheral opr=tions eithe ,but it does graphics hardware options
[19:00] <zeryx> I'll check again, I even flashed my bios to hopefully solve any problem but it didn't get anywhere
[19:00] <daftykins> not wise
[19:00] <zeryx> my goal was to get this working for work tomorrow
[19:01] <zeryx> I started on friday night, haven't really taken a break since
[19:02] <Anthony-L> seems like zeryx and I are having similar issues. :)
[19:03] <zeryx> my current laptop has no probs, its the double gpu causing pain
[19:03] <zeryx> its magically working
[19:03] <zeryx> 14.04
[19:03] <zeryx> I don't have to give it nomodeset
[19:03] <Anthony-L> yea, mine does the say. it's hit or miss with me.
[19:03] <zeryx> nvm it's now frozen
[19:03] <Anthony-L> same*
[19:03] <zeryx> I noticed the "gpu light" turned on and the system is now frozen
[19:04] <zeryx> aka the acutal power button changes colours
[19:04] <Artificial> Why does ubuntu server have a kernel update so often? I have to reboot my server so many times.
[19:05] <daftykins> for security fixes or otherwise
[19:05] <daftykins> as long as you're on an LTS server release it's fine
[19:05] <Artificial> I'm on 15.10
[19:05] <k1l> Artificial: there are a lot of security issues that get fixed. you can take a look at ubuntu.com/usn
[19:06] <k1l> Artificial: and as server it might be better to run a LTS version, anyway.
[19:07] <daftykins> Artificial: that wasn't a wise move for a server.
[19:07] <ner0x> Does anyone know of any software that I can write papers with? Not "technically" scientific papers but ones I can include source links, sections, subsections, tables, graphs, etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[19:08] <jatt> TeX
[19:09] <Anthony-L> libreoffice doesn't allow graphs?
[19:09] <zeryx> https://gist.github.com/zeryx/5a0ad8d07d669aae943a daftykins
[19:09] <lakoste> хай
[19:09] <zeryx> was able to capture that in between halting freezes
[19:09] <zeryx> (copy and pasted from one laptop to another, I skipped everything unrelated)
[19:09] <daftykins> ugh quadro
[19:10] <daftykins> yeah that was not a good move, i'd have wanted to see the lot - but anyway no, i'm doing other things right now so can't assist.
[19:10] <zeryx> kk
[19:10] <ner0x> Anthony-L: It does, I don't know it has chapter and source note report, etc.
[19:11] <ner0x> jatt: TeX? Is that a specific program or like a suite of things/
[19:11] <zeryx> also can't see to get into grub, not sure why
[19:13] <Anthony-L> ner0x, like something along the lines of Excel?
[19:14] <ner0x> Anthony-L: I guess I'm looking for a GUI latex editor with vim support. I might be able to work with vim-latex but the having to compile and then open the document gets tedious.
[19:16] <Anthony-L> ner0x, i googled... http://beebom.com/2015/07/best-latex-editors
[19:16] <ner0x> Anthony-L: I've done that quite a bit; haven't found one with vim support though. Annoying. Anyway, I'll keep looking around. Thanks for our help!
[19:17] <Guest73227> guys i need a network driver for my lenovo thinkpad E540 i heard the realtech one is pretty decent
[19:17] <minimec> ner0x: nowadays code editors like atom and sublime would have both latex and vim support, at least to a certain level of complexivity.
[19:18] <damascene> I've lost my quitrss feed after upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10, any idea about that?
[19:18] <Anthony-L> I've been having trouble rebooting and it seems that Ubuntu fights over which gpu drivers to use. I'm currently using nvidia proprietary and would like to blacklist/uninstall nouveau drivers, so I can successfully restart my system. help?
[19:19] <Mo-Brands> Sup guys whats the best driver for Lenovo Thinkpad E540 network card for my wireless
[19:19] <zeryx> Anthony-L, same problem yep
[19:20] <zeryx> Have you tried setting a boot option with grub for nomodeset ?
[19:20] <ner0x> minimec: I've never heard of atom. I'll give it a try. Thank you.
[19:22] <zeryx> daftykins, pastebin.com/kyWZcGVr when you have a second
[19:22] <zeryx> (booted in from my live usb)
[19:23] <daftykins> sorry no.
[19:23] <zeryx> "when you have a second"
[19:23] <Anthony-L> zeryx, did you blacklist from the liveusb?
[19:24] <zeryx> Anthony-L, no I blacklisted from the install, I don't think you can blacklist from the liveusb and get it to "stick" can you?
[19:24] <Anthony-L> zeryx, i don't know. i'm on the GUI/desktop now though. it's hit or miss for me when i restart my system.
[19:24] <zeryx> if you can get into grub and set the nomodeset flag in the boot configuration (IE: replace the silent splash flags with text nomodeset) you should be pretty free
[19:24] <Anthony-L> zeryx, it's pretty obvious it's fighting over drivers for me.
[19:25] <zeryx> yeah same, I can see the light turn on my power button when the drivers swap
[19:25] <zeryx> and then it freezes permenantly
[19:25] <Mia> maybe not entirely related to ubuntu, but I need to ask -- what o you think about kubuntu ?
[19:25] <zeryx> err not drivers
[19:25] <Mia> is kde a good de to work with
[19:25] <zeryx> drivers I assume are the same beacuse I haven
[19:25] <zeryx> haven't blacklisted anything yet, so it should just be nouveau swapping between the integrated graphics and the discrete gpu
[19:26] <Anthony-L> zeryx, yea, someone was telling me you have to blacklist with through the liveusb, but i don't know.
[19:26] <Anthony-L> zeryx, i'm googling.
[19:28] <zeryx> I've been googling for 3 days Anthony-L if you find something I haven't kudos
[19:28] <zeryx> :D
[19:28] <Anthony-L> zeryx, http://askubuntu.com/questions/481414/install-nvidia-driver-instead-nouveau
[19:29] <Anthony-L> zeryx, i've been reading that. i'm not too familiar with the CLI though.
[19:29] <cloner> salam
[19:30] <Anthony-L> hola
[19:30] <cloner> sa
[19:31] <Anthony-L> zeryx, yea, i've been having this problem for a while. i'm terrified to even restart my pc.
[19:31] <Anthony-L> zeryx, i just leave it on, problem solved. :) haha
[19:33] <zeryx> heh I don't get that far
[19:33] <zeryx> randomly it will decide the time is right to swap gpu's and it will lock up
[19:34] <Bashing-om> zeryx: Verify driver/card match for nvidia: ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ; sudo lshw -C display ' in a pastebin site . See what we can work out.
[19:35] <zeryx> kk
[19:35] <zeryx> I'm on the liveusb and only blacklisted stuf
[19:36] <zeryx> but I'll pastebin what I got
[19:36] <zeryx> I can't get into grub right now without the liveusb
[19:36] <zeryx> 14.04 for whatever reason refuses to let me get into grub via holding shift
[19:37] <Bashing-om> zeryx: Generally , installing Nvidia driver will automatically take care of the blacklisting . but you can verity. look through ' /etc/modprobe.d/ ' .
[19:38] <damascene> I've lost my quitrss rss feed after upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10, any idea about that?
[19:38] <zeryx> pastebin.com/8sbYxBUi
[19:38] <zeryx> Anthony-L ^
[19:38] <Bashing-om> zeryx: UEFI is the escape key .. and only a 3 second window of opportunity .
[19:38] <zeryx> Bashing-om, hold or rapidly press?
[19:39] <Bashing-om> zeryx: Rapid ..
[19:39] <zeryx> kk
[19:39] <zeryx> supposed to hold shift
[19:39] <Anthony-L> Bashing-om, that's not the case. i'm also having same problem as zeryx.
[19:39] <Anthony-L> i'm using proprietary nvidia drivers, it does not automatically blacklist the nouveau driver.
[19:40] <Anthony-L> i have the freeze on restart problem, it's intermittent.
[19:40] <zeryx> mine's extremely reproducable
[19:40] <Brandan> Hello, kswapd0 uses 100% of my CPU with 2 Gbs of ram remaining (its only using 200 mbs). Know why? It makes it extremely hot in here.
[19:41] <zeryx> it'll freeze after at maximum 25 seconds
[19:41] <zeryx> without nomodeset*
[19:41] <Bashing-om> zeryx: IF UEFI based system to get grub's attention is the escape key . On that last output, no driver is loaded . and no Nvidia module is installed .. This on the install ?
[19:42] <zeryx> its unable to even get to the install window without setting the boot option nomodeset
[19:45] <jushur> zeryx: can use "TAB" to get grub menu to.
[19:45] <Bashing-om> zeryx: Is acceptable to boot 'nomodeset' and then install the Nvidia driver.. question, is this a notebook ? Have not found your card yet .
[19:46] <numb3r> Hi everyone! Can anyone help me to understand this http://paste.ubuntu.com/15375253
[19:46] <zeryx> Bashing-om, its a workstation
[19:46] <zeryx> designed for HPC
[19:47] <zeryx> escape worked but you can only click it once
[19:48] <zeryx> if you click it twice you get sent to the grub commandline which is useless
[19:53] <Bashing-om> zeryx: Found it .. http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/72229/en-us ... But I have never heard of this driver .. still look'n .
[19:56] <zeryx> oh yeah using proprietary drivers
[19:56] <zeryx> not sure if it'll work properly for me though
[19:57] <zeryx> I assume it will
[19:57] <zeryx> might not
[20:04] <Anthony-L> zeryx, i pm'ed you
[20:06] <bloop> I installed unclutter which hides the mouse on idle
[20:06] <bloop> it starts up with ubuntu
[20:06] <bloop> I don't want it to do that
[20:06] <bloop> it's not in the list of start up apps to disable
[20:07] <Bashing-om> zeryx: Nvidia says : http://www.ubuntumaniac.com/2015/11/install-nvidia-linux-display-driver.html the 352 version will run on that card .
[20:07] <zeryx> yeah Bashing-om I got 362.28 working with it
[20:07] <zeryx> still crashes on reboot though
[20:07] <zeryx> without nomodeset flag
[20:07] <zeryx> 361*
[20:08] <frznsknk> Hi there. I just installed 15.10 desktop, and I'm trying to add an IRC account to Empathy. However, there's no option for an IRC account in the Online Accounts window. The software center assures me that I have the latest and greatest telepathy-idle already installed, and I'm not sure what to try next.
[20:08] <Bashing-om> zeryx: If you have 'nomodeset' enabled, defeats Kernel Mode Setting and thus a proprietary driver will not load .
[20:11] <zeryx> Bashing-om, nvidia-smi works
[20:11] <zeryx> so somethings working
[20:11] <zeryx> this is a mindboggling puzzle that I've been working on for a good 20 hours now
[20:11] <ioria> bloop, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1450975
[20:11] <zeryx> I may throw in the towel soon I think and return this laptop
[20:12] <Bashing-om> zeryx: Lot's I do not know " amd64        Interface for toggling the power on nVidia Optimus video cards " Huh ?? // what now is available in the install for drivers ? show ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' again .
[20:15] <bloop> ioria, thanks
[20:15] <ioria> bloop, no problem
[20:15] <zeryx> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/pUFqFJ1Z
[20:16] <TvL2386> hi guys, when installing a laptop with ubuntu using the mini.iso, what should I select to only get a basic ubuntu with MATE?
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> TvL2386  i guess mate is not yet an option in the mini.iso ... try installing no GUI and then adding mate afterwards
[20:17] <ioria> TvL2386, https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/2014-08-ubuntu-mate-14-04-from-scratch/
[20:18] <ghostmag> So, any suggestions why my ubuntu Desktop is not able to reach every website?
[20:18] <ghostmag> Every now and then I am not able to visit specific sites
[20:19] <TvL2386> ah MonkeyDust, it's in the list for the x64 mini.iso :-) I'm just wondering if I also need to select ubuntu-desktop and basic ubuntu
[20:19] <ghostmag> Right now I am not able to reach a few
[20:21] <w9qbj> ghostmag, what sites are missing?  what browser?  Can you ping them?
[20:22] <ghostmag> Every browser has the problem
[20:22] <ghostmag> How can I try to ping them?
[20:22] <bekks> Open a terminal, try to use the ping command.
[20:23] <ghostmag> Different websites, but I think a few are harder to reach. Facebook, http://www.tagesschau.de/index.html oder a specifiy IRC Server seems to go down very often
[20:23] <ghostmag> bekks: Thanks, I will try it. Looking for a website that is down for me right now
[20:25] <numb3r> I have issue with my boot, I try to run boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/15375253
[20:27] <bekks> numb3r: And whats the issue?
[20:28] <numb3r> I can not boot anymore
[20:29] <bekks> numb3r: And whats the error message you get?
[20:29] <numb3r> @bekks my linux partition seems not accessible when I run 'testdisk'
[20:30] <bekks> numb3r: What is the issue, output, what happens when you try to boot?
[20:31] <ghostmag> What do I do wrong?
[20:31] <ghostmag> I write "ping 1 netflix.com"
[20:31] <ghostmag> *wrote
[20:32] <EriC^^> ghostmag: ping -c 1 netflix.cm
[20:32] <ghostmag> ah, yeah, thanks
[20:32] <numb3r> I have : grub issue>
[20:33] <ghostmag> w9qbj: 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms
[20:33] <ghostmag> It seems like it doesn't work
[20:34] <bekks> ghostmag: Can you please decide where you want to get help? Here, or in #ubuntu-de?
[20:35] <w9qbj> ghostmag,  where are you?  did you mean netflix.com
[20:35] <pingwindyktator> hey! is there any good way to move the unity launcher?
[20:35] <EriC^^> numb3r: do you have a live usb you can boot?
[20:35] <numb3r> @bekks the link is the result after running boot-repair tool
[20:36] <ghostmag> bekks: Do you want to help me in #ubuntu-de? That'd be great
[20:36] <ghostmag> Yes, w9qbj. netflix.com
[20:36] <ghostmag> I am in Germany but have access to netflix.com
[20:37] <ghostmag> *normally!
[20:38] <ghostmag> Right now I am not able to reach netflix.com but that's just an example, w9qbj. There are a lot of sites I am not able to reach a certain amount of time
[20:38] <ikonia> can you resolve the hostname to ip
[20:39] <numb3r> Eric^^: I am on live usb
[20:39] <EriC^^> numb3r: type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[20:43] <ghostmag> ikonia: How do I do that
[20:43] <ghostmag> ?
[20:43] <ikonia> if you ping the address or look it up using nslookup or dig does it resolve to an ip
[20:44] <Bashing-om> zeryx: Sorry to leave ya haning .. I can not make heads or tails .. guess this is above my skill level as I am not seeing what I expect to see for graphic's driver . Maybe take a look at the log file see what X is doing ? ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[20:45] <buu> Ok
[20:45] <numb3r> EriC^^ : it's done
[20:46] <buu> If I have a receiver plugged into an nvidia card via hdmi using the nvidia propietary package
[20:46] <buu> Why does xrandr list HDMI-0 instead of DFP-0?
[20:46] <EriC^^> numb3r: type " for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done "
[20:48] <buu> And what's the difference between DFP-1 and HDMI-1
[20:48] <ghostmag> ikonia: When I ping Netflix, it shows this: "PING netflix.com (50.19.210.42) 56(84) bytes of data."  The number 50.19.210.42 is important for me?
[20:49] <AlexQ> Hi. When I do apt-get update, I get this: "W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)". My Xubuntu 15.10 is 64 bit for certain. I guess that is a bug connected with Google dropping i386 support, but what should I do?
[20:49] <bekks> ghostmag: that "number" is the IP address of netflix.com
[20:50] <bekks> AlexQ: whats the output of "uname -a"?
[20:51] <zeryx> soft lockup - CPU#4 stuck for 22! [Xorg:2258]
[20:51] <zeryx> what would cause Xorg stalling?
[20:51] <bekks> zeryx: A CPU soft lockup.
[20:51] <AlexQ> bekks: Linux alex-laptop 4.2.0-30-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 26 00:58:07 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:52] <AlexQ> bekks: Maybe I should flush the apt cashe or sth?
[20:52] <numb3r> EriC^^ : the command outputs error: invalid mount option - - '/'
[20:52] <AlexQ> bekks: Nope, sudo apt-get clean did not help
[20:53] <bekks> AlexQ: That will not solve that issue. This will: sudo sed -i -e 's/deb http/deb [arch=amd64] http/' "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list"
[20:53] <EriC^^> numb3r: must be a typo somewhere
[20:53] <EriC^^> numb3r: try it again
[20:53] <kostkon> AlexQ, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/fix-failed-to-fetch-google-chrome-apt-error-ubuntu
[20:55] <zeryx> bekks, how would I fix this
[20:56] <AlexQ> thanks bekks kostkon
[20:56] <bekks> zeryx: You need to restart X, at least.
[20:57] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: bekks :: also look at /opt/google/chrome/cron/google-chrome  .
[20:57] <numb3r> EriC^^ : i get new error : mount point /dev/dev does not exist
[20:58] <EriC^^> numb3r: another typo
[20:58] <EriC^^> numb3r: can you paste here exactly what you're typing?
[20:59] <numb3r> EriC^^: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[21:00] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: REPOCONFIG="deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main"
[21:00] <AlexQ> REPOCONFIGREGEX="deb (\[arch=[^]]*\bamd64\b[^]]*\][[:space:]]*)?https?://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main" - seems to be fine?
[21:00] <vertigojh424> I am having a problem downloading some software and updates.  It says that there may be something wrong with my connection, i.e. firewall.  Yet I am able to connect to firefox.  Has anyone had this issue after installing Ubuntu?
[21:00] <bekks> vertigojh424: Whats the exact output of "sudo apt-get update"? Can you please pastebin it?
[21:01] <EriC^^> numb3r: looks right, try it again
[21:01] <vertigojh424> bekks how do I run that?
[21:01] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Yeah .. you should be good there .. see now what results: 'sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .
[21:01] <bekks> vertigojh424: By opening a terminal and typing it.
[21:02] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: All fine, thanks
[21:03] <vertigojh424> I don't think I have a terminal installed or if I do I don't know how to access it.  Is there one that is better than others?
[21:03] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: :) .. others did the ground work .
[21:03] <numb3r> EriC^^ : gives the same error
[21:03] <EriC^^> numb3r: try sudo mount -B /dev /mnt/dev
[21:03] <bekks> vertigojh424: You do have a terminal installed.
[21:03] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Guess that must have happened quite recently, as I had my Chrome up-to-date apparently?
[21:04] <numb3r> EriC^^: it can not mount any of the directories
[21:04] <EriC^^> what does it say?
[21:04] <EriC^^> numb3r: try ls -l /mnt
[21:05] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: If you recently installed google-chrome, the fix was done by Google . If prior to the 32 bit droppage, we had to manually make those changes .
[21:05] <m3n3chm0> hello the last 3 days my laptop does not poweroff or reboot OK.. I mean in the splash screen it freezes and I have to push power button until it power off. I'm using xubuntu 15.10 and this is the first time I see this issue
[21:06] <Bashing-om> m3n3chm0: If you boot an older kernel is the behavior the same ?
[21:06] <numb3r> EriC^^: output only 2 directories: BootInfo and boot-sav
[21:06] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Nope, I had it installed way before 32 bit droppage, but I have 49.0.2623.87 (64-bit) and it did not upgrade after successful apt-get update & ugrade, so I am wondering how could it have been already up to date when apt-get update was supposed to keep failing since 32-bit droppage :D
[21:07] <m3n3chm0> Bashing-om mmmmm how can I boot from an older kernel ¿?
[21:08] <AlexQ> m3n3chm0: Via advanced boot options submenu in Grub
[21:08] <m3n3chm0> Bashing-om righ now i'm running this one
[21:08] <m3n3chm0> buenas, hace 3 dias que mi portatil al reinciiar o apagar no finaliza la acción, y se queda bloqueado en el splash screen y la tecla de mayusculas parpadea, con lo que tengo que pulsar el boton de apagado hasta que se apaga a machete... estoy usando Xubuntu 15.10 y nunca tuve este problema antes
[21:08] <m3n3chm0> sorry
[21:08] <m3n3chm0> this one
[21:08] <m3n3chm0> 4.2.0-34-generic
[21:08] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Huummm .. got me wondering too ,, Google making the adjustment ??? For several days we have had to edit those files ourselfs .
[21:08] <m3n3chm0> AlexQ ok let me check
[21:09] <m3n3chm0> i'm going to try to boot with an older one thanks
[21:09] <m3n3chm0> see you in some minutes
[21:09] <m3n3chm0> thanks for your anwers
[21:09] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic vivid
[21:10] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic wily
[21:11] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Maybe was it only "failing", i.e. printing that error and apt-get update exiting with error code, but actually getting new package data from Google's repo despite the problematic repo entry, so then upgrade still upgraded Chrome or something. Well, never mind, just seemed strange,
[21:11] <Danielh90> putty and screens need help learning screens
[21:12] <AlexQ> Thanks guys and bye, gotta go
[21:12] <Danielh90> So I made a screen so I did screen -S mc_proxy_server I tryed to switch to it and it says no other windows found? but when I do screen -ls  it says that mc_proxy_server
[21:13] <Danielh90> and then my putty terminal can't type anymore
[21:13] <Danielh90> What am I do wrong.
[21:14] <Bashing-om> AlexLikeRock: I can accept that Google made some adjustements, As I did not get the google-chrome version 49 until I made the manual edits - the same day Google droped 32 bit support .
[21:14] <numb3r> EriC^^ : output only 2 directories: BootInfo and boot-sav
[21:14] <AlexLikeRock> take  this  Bashing-om
[21:14] <AlexLikeRock> http://goalxlife.blogspot.mx/2016/03/caricaturas-torrent-torrente.html
[21:15] <AlexLikeRock> free cartoons
[21:15] <Danielh90> Could anyone help me?
[21:15] <EriC^^> numb3r: type mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:15] <Bashing-om> AlexLikeRock: K .. sorry not looking at whom I am pinging .
[21:15] <m3n3chm0> alexQ Bashing-om you were right, with 4.2.0.33 the issue is solved... so how can i continue using 4.2.0.34¿? maybe i need to reinstall it or something else ¿?
[21:15] <AlexLikeRock> Bashing-om,    google  sucks
[21:15] <AlexLikeRock>  change   to firefox
[21:16] <AlexLikeRock> always use google users and then gives them a kick in the tracero
[21:17] <AlexLikeRock> google always misuses users and then gives them a kick in the ass
[21:17] <AlexLikeRock> Bashing-om,
[21:17] <AlexLikeRock> google are  evil
[21:18] <AlexLikeRock> ALWAYS !!!!!!
[21:18] <Bashing-om> AlexLikeRock: No free lunch anywhere anymore .
[21:18] <AlexLikeRock> google not  care
[21:18] <numb3r> EriC^^ : i have a link : http://termbin.com/sxf7
[21:19] <EriC^^> numb3r: mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:20] <Bashing-om> m3n3chm0: Short answer, wait for the next kernel upgrade, see if the new kernels has a fix for your issue ; in the meantime boot the older kernel .
[21:20] <m3n3chm0> Bashing-om ok i'll do exactly as you said, thanks mate.
[21:23] <numb3r> EriC^^ : i have a link http://termbin.com/sxf7
[21:23] <EriC^^> numb3r: you're typing "type"
[21:24] <numb3r> EriC^^ : No
[21:25] <EriC^^> maybe you pasted the same link
[21:27] <numb3r> EriC^^ : which link? I don't understand
[21:27] <EriC^^> the link you gave
[21:27] <EriC^^> numb3r: try mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:29] <numb3r> Eric^^ : output of this command is: http://termbin.com/n4r2
[21:30] <EriC^^> numb3r: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[21:31] <numb3r> EriC^^ : mount: /dev/sda5 already mounted or /mnt busy
[21:32] <EriC^^> numb3r: sudo mkdir /install
[21:32] <EriC^^> numb3r: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /install
[21:32] <EriC^^> numb3r: nevermind
[21:32] <EriC^^> numb3r: cat /proc/mounts | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:33] <masteryoda> hello
[21:33] <masteryoda> nice to meet you all
[21:34] <numb3r> EriC^^ : http://termbin.com/qzje
[21:35] <jackbrown> anyone knows how to install Google Earth PRo ?
[21:36] <EriC^^> numb3r: odd /dev/sda5 isn't mounted
[21:36] <bray90820> is scp part of ssh?
[21:36] <EriC^^> numb3r: sudo mkdir /install
[21:36] <EriC^^> numb3r: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /install
[21:36] <EriC^^> !find scp
[21:37] <EriC^^> bray90820: yeah it's part of the openssh-client package
[21:37] <EriC^^> dpkg -S `which scp`
[21:38] <bray90820> EriC^^: Thanks
[21:38] <EriC^^> np
[21:38] <numb3r> EriC^^ : mount: /dev/sda5 already mounted or /install busy
[21:38] <EriC^^> numb3r: try rebooting the live usb
[21:39] <numb3r> EriC^^ : ok... be back in a while
[21:52] <gak> h
[22:04] <Neytiri> hi i need to be able to move files from one directory to another that fit a specific naming convention "BLAH-BLAH - THIS PART DOEST'N MATTER"
[22:05] <Gakman> Всем привет
[22:05] <gak> hi
[22:06] <xlog> mv "BLAH-BLAH"* /some/directory
[22:07] <Seveas> !info libotr5 trusty
[22:08] <owner__> NickServ identify arkady8103
[22:09] <MoPac> Question about Ubuntu ISO (especially daily build) images. I have this continuing annoyance where they contain 0-bit gzip files (usually in /dists/main/i386 and similar folders). This causes the Nautilus or whatever other default extractor that works through the file GUI to error out trying to extract them. So I always have to open up the .iso and delete these. Is this problem unique to me?
[22:09] <minimec> owner__: Change your irc password ;)
[22:09] <MoPac> (I don't think this is specifically a +1 problem, as it has shown up with a lot of versions)
[22:09] <leokanna> join #sympy
[22:09] <bekks> MoPac: Do not "unpack" an ISO file, but mount it.
[22:10] <leokanna> sorry wrong msg
[22:10] <teward> MoPac: sounds like you're doing it wrong - ISOs don't get unpacked, they get mounted or burned to disks
[22:11] <MoPac> bekks: teward: Well, but if I want to boot the version on the .iso on my EFI-enabled PC, that seems to work by actually just copying the files onto the USB drive
[22:12] <teward> MoPac: why not use the usb creator tool, or UNetBootin in a pinch?  Because I know that works, for everything through 15.10
[22:12] <Neytiri> hi i need to be able to move files from one directory to another that fit a specific naming convention "BLAH-BLAH - THIS PART DOEST'N MATTER"
[22:12] <bekks> MoPac: No, they dont. The copy the entire ISO as-is onto the USB stick - they dont unpack it.
[22:13] <MiningMarsh> MoPac: you can burn current ubuntu isos to disk by just dd'ing them to the block device.
[22:13] <MiningMarsh> and it will boot
[22:16] <MoPac> teward: bekks: MiningMarsh: But why reformat the USB and make it useless for holding any other stuff for any other stuff? I mean, it boots/runs just fine when I copy all the files that Archive Manager reads from the .iso onto the USB.
[22:16] <teward> MoPac: because an ISO is a complete image / copy of a disk
[22:16] <minimec> Neytiri: you can 'BLAH-BLAH - THIS PART DOESNT MATTER' or something like /home/Neytiri/BLAH-BLAH\ -\ THIS\ PART\ DOESN'T\ MATTER
[22:16] <bekks> MoPac: Thats not how things are working at that point.
[22:16] <teward> MoPac: and that's not how things actually work
[22:16] <teward> MoPac: either use the USB Creator tool, or `dd` the ISO to the USB directly, otherwise it won't work right
[22:17] <teward> and I suggest the `dd` method over the creator tool
[22:17] <MiningMarsh> MoPac: you can also just install grub to the flash drive
[22:17] <MiningMarsh> and boot the ISO through grub
[22:17] <MiningMarsh> which all current ubuntu isos also support
[22:17] <teward> MoPac: this is also why I have a large number of USB disks - using some for boot disks for Linux and such, and others for actually holding data unrelated
[22:17] <MiningMarsh> you loopback mount the iso as a device in grub, then just chainload it iirc
[22:18] <MoPac> I get what an .iso is, and I used to burn them. But Isn't one positive aspect of EFI supposed to be that you don't have to burn .iso files to boot them? (I'm not even sure it works at all that way unless I have "legacy boot" enabled, but maybe that was an old problem). So the daily build is packaged as an .iso, but if it runs just fine by copying the files and EFI booting, what's wrong?
[22:18] <MiningMarsh> MoPac: I use this method to keep an emergency ubuntu ISO on my EFI partition in case I bork my gentoo install. I can just run ubuntu from the ISO on disk without actually burning it to USB or a disk
[22:18] <MoPac> The only problem I've noticed is this one hiccup when copying with Archive Manager when there are 0-by gzips
[22:19] <bekks> MoPac: thats not an aspect of EFI, but is possible since ages, actually.
[22:19] <Neytiri> minimec, the Blah changes tho i dont want to have to copy each file 1 by one there is thousands of files i want that uses that format and some i dont use the format and i am tryign to seperate them
[22:22] <minimec> Neytiri: So you want to write a script that identifies the files with some patterns and 'mv' them to a given directory...
[22:23] <MoPac> MiningMarsh: bekks: teward: I'm taking it the answer is just "ti's not supported as anything but an .iso to dd or otherwise burn, so 'Archive Manager doesn't like your 0-byte GZips' isn't a valid complaint about the build."  I can accept that. I'm curious, though, about why copying the files is supposed to "not work right". It seems to work perfectly, and I'm not sure what would cause failure.
[22:24] <Danielh90> How do I use screen's?
[22:24] <Danielh90> in ubuntu server
[22:24] <bekks> MoPac: The fact that you dont unpack an ISO ;)
[22:24] <MiningMarsh> MoPac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot/Examples
[22:24] <skitoxe> Danielh90: sudo apt-get install screen
[22:24] <Danielh90> skitoxe, I have it installed but I would like multiple screens how do I do that?
[22:24] <teward> MoPac: I suggest you go research what an ISO actually is.  Because I think your issue is that you don't understand fundamentally what an ISO is supposed to be/do, and therefore are just treating it as an archive like you would a ZIP or a tarball
[22:24] <MiningMarsh> MoPac: Because not every system is an EFI system, among other things.
[22:25] <teward> as well, what MiningMarsh said
[22:25] <skitoxe> Danielh90: easiest way is to check out an youtube video to understand it. just search for screen linux on youtube
[22:25] <MiningMarsh> MoPac: Look at linked method, it is even easier to work with than unpacking iso.
[22:25] <MiningMarsh> just copy single .iso to, say, a fat32 FS or something and boot that iso.
[22:25] <MiningMarsh> and you can use the rest of the USB stick as normal storage
[22:26] <MiningMarsh> updating to a new version of ubuntu is then as easy as just replacing the iso file with the updated one
[22:26] <MiningMarsh> It will also work on both EFI and MBR systems iirc
[22:27] <EriC^^> nope just efi
[22:27] <EriC^^> MiningMarsh:
[22:27] <bekks> EriC^^: Why wouldnt it work on non-EFI? Non-EFI is capable of chanloading an ISO, as well.
[22:28] <EriC^^> bekks: i meant if you try to boot it normally you couldn't
[22:28] <EriC^^> you mean if he wants to update his system..?
[22:28] <MiningMarsh> EriC^^: the page specifically mentions how to get it working on both BIOS and EFI here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[22:28] <EriC^^> does he already have ubuntu installed right now?
[22:30] <MoPac> bekks: MiningMarsh: teward: I *know* what an .iso is. I know how othey are intended to be used. But if Archive Manager lets you explore and modify the contents of an .iso just like an Archive, and if copying those "files" to a USB as real files appears to create a bootable system, where is the problem?
[22:30] <MoPac> I'm trying to understand why it's not supposed to work, or why it's working if it's not supposed to, as it were
[22:32] <minimec> Neytiri: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/30693/how-can-you-move-or-copy-all-files-of-a-certain-type-to-a-directory-in-unix
[22:32] <Neytiri> thankyou
[22:33] <EriC^^> MiningMarsh: i misread what you said, thought you said to create a fat32 and copy the iso contents there to boot the usb
[22:33] <Anthony-L> I've been having trouble rebooting and it seems that Ubuntu fights over which gpu drivers to use. I'm currently using nvidia proprietary and would like to blacklist/uninstall nouveau drivers, so I can successfully restart my system. help?
[22:34] <MiningMarsh> EriC^^: ah, that makes more sense.
[22:34] <MiningMarsh> yeah that will only work on an EFI system
[22:36] <drale2k> when i run ps -aux the list of processes is too long, how can i scroll it up ?
[22:36] <reisio> drale2k: | less
[22:37] <drale2k> reisio: ah thanks
[22:37] <reisio> :D
[22:37] <drale2k> i need to get the grasp of the basics :P
[22:38] <foo> Does ubuntu 14.04 come out of the box with nginx by any chance?
[22:38] <reisio> foo: desktop certainly wouldn't
[22:38] <reisio> I doubt server would, either; but it's only a single command away to install it
[22:40] <foo> reisio: heya P, I suppose that's true. I'll give it a shot, thank you
[22:40] <foo> I assume 14.04 is where I want to start for LTS
[22:40] <foo> Ah, yeah, per the topic.
[22:43] <reisio> foo: LTS?
[22:44] <foo> reisio: yeah, on server.
[22:46] <reisio> foo: what is it you think LTS gets you?
[22:46] <linx> is there a way to poll large amounts of files for modification dates without incurring disk seeks?
[22:46] <foo> reisio: stability
[22:47] <linx> anybody know the io charecteristics of this
[22:47] <reisio> foo: ah, that isn't what LTS means
[22:47] <linx> characteristics*
[22:47] <reisio> linx: I doubt see how...
[22:47] <reisio> I don't see how*, even
[22:47] <foo> reisio: please, enlighten me. :) LTS = long term support ?
[22:47] <linx> i was hoping for some kernel magic to maybe solve this already
[22:48] <reisio> foo: yup; support isn't stability
[22:48] <reisio> linx: solve what?
[22:48] <linx> read
[22:48] <linx> above?
[22:49] <reisio> you can't poll files without polling files, no
[22:50] <foo> reisio: is it safe to assume, though, that LTS is more stable than non-LTS? Or no?
[22:52] <scely> sup
[22:55] <foo> I also don't want to upgrade ubuntu every 6 months, heh.
[22:57] <bekks> foo: So use a LTS version.
[22:58] <reisio> foo: it's not to do with stability, but it is to do with avoiding updates
[22:59] <foo> bekks: heh, thanks :)
[23:00] <foo> reisio: I see. Major updates, anyway.
[23:00] <gsdb> hello
[23:01] <reisio> I miss gsdb
[23:15] <Guest8393> My ubuntu was infected and I used it to download new iso image and burn it with unetboot on usb. I reinstalled the os. Can the new installation be infected?
[23:16] <k1l> Guest8393: test the md5sum of that iso
[23:16] <Guest8393> k1l, I deleted it :(
[23:17] <k1l> what means: infected?
[23:17] <Guest20984> hmm
[23:17] <Guest8393> k1l, same as windows infected with viruses
[23:17] <reisio> Guest8393: not an easy way to tell then
[23:17] <k1l> Guest8393: was it?
[23:17] <reisio> Guest8393: if you want to be sure, checksum the install image, then (re)install, then setup AIDE
[23:18] <reisio> Guest20984: /nick hmmguy
[23:18] <Guest8393> I'm not sure that it was infected but I was paranoid
[23:18] <Guest8393> I have the usb files
[23:18] <Guest8393> Can i compare them with orginal files ?
[23:20] <k1l> you cant md5sum the usb since unetbootin changes the iso for their own booting screen etc
[23:20] <reisio> you could compare the files, but it'd probably take longer to be sure than reinstalling
[23:21] <haasn> Make a second bootable USB drive on a trusted machine and compare the contents on a trusted machine
[23:22] <haasn> (Easiest would be to make an image of the USB drive, reformat it, use unetbootin again, and make a second image. Then compare the two images)
[23:23] <bekks> Guest8393: What lead to your impression that your USB was infected?
[23:24] <Guest8393> bekks, not my usb, my ubuntu computer
[23:24] <bekks> Guest8393: What lead to your impression that your ubuntu computer was infected?
[23:24] <haasn> It had ubuntu on it   /me runs
[23:25] <Guest8393> bekks, I have opened some dangerous pdf files (probably infected) in Evince and Firefox. Buffer overflows possibilities that could download and run linux malware on my machine is very big
[23:25] <Guest8393> I didn't use virutal machine
[23:25] <Anthony-L> I've been having trouble rebooting and it seems that Ubuntu fights over which gpu drivers to use. I'm currently using nvidia proprietary and would like to blacklist/uninstall nouveau drivers, so I can successfully restart my system. help?
[23:25] <minimec> haasn: ubuntu is that kind of virus you cannot get rid of, once infected... ;)
[23:26] <Ben64> Guest8393: sounds extremely far fetched
[23:26] <bekks> Guest8393: How do you knpw those PDF files were infected?
[23:26] <bekks> *know
[23:26] <Guest8393> bekks, I don't know, I doubt
[23:27] <bekks> Guest8393: Thats very far fetched.
[23:27] <haasn> Does Ubuntu use a hardened toolchain for building packages?
[23:28] <haasn> (e.g. SSP, PIE)
[23:28] <Guest8393> bekks, Do you think that I don't have to worry about linux malware?
[23:28] <haasn> Guest8393: The worry has to be proportional to the threat
[23:28] <bekks> Guest8393: Yes, I do think that you're too paranoid ;)
[23:29] <haasn> He's saying that you're worrying more than justifiably necessary
[23:29] <reisio> at the very least, you aren't worrying correctly
[23:29] <reisio> plan ahead your worry, and then you won't have to second guess yourself
[23:29] <haasn> Was it a PDF about buffer overflow vulnerabilities in Firefox and Evince? :)
[23:31] <Guest8393> haasn, bekks, reisio you're right guys, I'm not sure that pdfs was infected. I'm not sure that there's 0day exploit for evince and firefox. I'm not sure that if there was malware it was albe to MITM or replace any other ubuntu installation.
[23:32] <haasn> Guest8393: While all of these may individually be accomplishable, the sheer coincidence of them all working together to corrupt your new Ubuntu installation has as low a chance of happening as you personally being targeted by Stuxnet
[23:34] <Guest8393> haasn, yes, life is beautiful when you're not paranoid :)
[23:47] <frznsknk> Dear people from the  future: figured it out - On a fresh install of 15.10, if Empathy/account options doesn't list IRC, and telepathy-idle is installed, you want to install account-plugin-irc and that should fix it.
[23:47] <reisio> gj
[23:48] <frznsknk> ...although as IRC clients go, Empathy is kind of... not the best XD
[23:48] <reisio> bad name for not being the best
[23:50] <neyder_> hi there,
[23:51] <reisio> hi ney
[23:56] <Anthony-L>  I've been having trouble rebooting and it seems that Ubuntu fights over which gpu drivers to use. I'm currently using nvidia proprietary and would like to blacklist/uninstall nouveau drivers, so I can successfully restart my system. help?
[23:57] <daftykins> so read up on blacklisting modules
[23:59] <Anthony-L> daftykins, manual removal is required.
[23:59] <daftykins> no it's not