=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [06:35] wetab only had a i915 gpu? [06:56] anpok_ ?? === Saviq_ is now known as Saviq [07:19] duflu: over the weekend someone asked for help with ubuntu touch on that device .. [07:19] what he described is just like the i915 experience [07:20] anpok_: Cool. I've been wondering when that would happen. Have intel tablets gathering dust [07:20] which is .. qt applications trying to create gl 2.0 context fail to start [07:20] Although for them it's probably just a matter of "what's the apt command to turn Ubuntu into Ubuntu Touch?" :) [07:21] anpok_: Oh, yes that too. I have a very old desktop I have refused to throw out for testing that. Not sure it will ever be useful [07:21] because ubuntu mesa disables gl 2.0 support for those devices.. because it would run in llvmpipe only .. and paired with that cpu the performance is just horrible.. [07:22] a fixed function gl solution or a good software backend for qt is the only way to fix that.. [07:22] anpok_: You mean a new shell :) Our UI toolkit is all shaders... [07:23] oh yeah... [07:23] I've been expecting this to become a thing. Unity8's hardware requirements is already too high for lots of Ubuntu users with legacy hardware [07:24] hm i guess you could get very far by ignoring that there are shaders defined.. [07:25] anpok_: I think I've seen that bug happen. What you get is blank windows (no text or widgets) [07:25] * duflu wonders why bzr is taking 10+ minutes for a push [07:28] * duflu realizes it's cos when you push to the wrong project, the diff is large [07:42] anpok_: The good news is Unity7 falls back automagically to LLVMpipe, and it's usually fast enough that most people don't notice. Just with some tearing and no dash blur [07:43] Although Unity7 has the benefit of hardware acceleration support for i915 :P [07:44] So I'm not sure just how bad LLVMpipe on i915 would be. Probably not great [07:57] well.. not useable on atoms at least [07:58] but ok on a i7 or xeon [07:58] anpok_: Atoms are 64-bit and use i965 now :) [07:59] But I would like it if we didn't retire old hardware just out of software limitations/ignorance [07:59] I recall the first one actually occurred in Mesa (dropping old GPUs) [08:11] hm maybe there is a way to get the qtpainter bakend back into qtuick rendering... === shuduo is now known as shuduo-afk === essembe is now known as sbeattie [11:30] alf_: should this failure worry us? https://mir-jenkins.ubuntu.com/job/build-2-binpkg-mir/arch=i386,compiler=gcc,platform=mesa,release=xenial/445/console === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === francisco is now known as Guest95587 === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader