| yofel | because when kwin was built, not all archs had the same version of plasma-workspace | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| yofel | and the tests are architecture specific | 00:00 |
| yofel | except that I'm utterly clueless how to tell britney that it should disregard the test results for plasma-workspace 5.4 | 00:02 |
| yofel | I'll leave that to pitti.. | 00:02 |
| sgclark | so plasma-workspace 5.4.3 triggered kwin 5.5.4 on armhf because dependency version was not set or ? | 00:02 |
| yofel | the other way around | 00:02 |
| sgclark | kwin 5.5.4 triggered plasma-workspace 5.4.3 ? | 00:03 |
| sgclark | using kwin 5.5.4? build dep? | 00:03 |
| yofel | yes, that's the 4th build from the top | 00:04 |
| sgclark | eww | 00:04 |
| sgclark | I rather think that will fail | 00:04 |
| yofel | well, it did :D | 00:04 |
| sgclark | so what can we do to stop the madness? set versions? | 00:04 |
| yofel | no idea, that's the problem | 00:04 |
| sgclark | ah ok, well we are on the same page of unknown then | 00:05 |
| sgclark | thanks for the explanation | 00:05 |
| yofel | you *can* re-run a test, that's what the retry button on the excuses page does. But it will still use the same trigger | 00:05 |
| yofel | which is no help at all | 00:05 |
| sgclark | oh ouch. | 00:06 |
| yofel | well, in the meantime we can fix the tests that are actually broken - like kopete | 00:10 |
| yofel | and there's dependency issues with breeze | 00:11 |
| yofel | at least the release team deleted the NBS packages themselves | 00:11 |
| sgclark | NBS? | 00:12 |
| yofel | no binary source - packages in the archive that have no source that they're built from anymore. e.g. packages that you removed from a control file (like kdepim-dbg this time etc.) | 00:14 |
| sgclark | ah | 00:16 |
| yofel | cantor-backend-maxima/s390x unsatisfiable Depends: maxima | 00:16 |
| yofel | aaargh. Who came up with the idea to support System z | 00:16 |
| sgclark | maxima is not something we have control over is it? is there a way to block an arch per package? | 00:18 |
| yofel | that's what I'm trying to remember. You *can* just list the allowed architectures. But I would rather just blacklist s390x if that's a thing | 00:19 |
| sgclark | I see now why they were reluctant to approve our Ffe. What a mess. There has got to be a way for us to know prior to release that our autopkgtests will fail? Is that not covered in the CI? Or is it due to their system being complex? | 00:25 |
| yofel | doesn't look like it, bummer | 00:25 |
| sgclark | us not having the different arch's I guess we can do nothing about | 00:26 |
| sgclark | oh :( | 00:26 |
| yofel | not covered in CI and system being compley | 00:26 |
| yofel | *complex | 00:26 |
| sgclark | hm | 00:26 |
| yofel | right, that's just what you have to live with. Qemu can go some way, and I can debug armhf on my raspi. But that's about it | 00:26 |
| yofel | OTOH, we already had like ubuntu20 or so uploads to the archive, exactly for such reasons | 00:28 |
| * yofel remembers kde-workspace *shudder* | 00:29 | |
| yofel | lets see if I got this right | 00:29 |
| yofel | oh my, I completely missed the clock | 00:34 |
| * yofel -> bed | 00:34 | |
| yofel | nini | 00:34 |
| sgclark | night! | 00:37 |
| tgBot | <ovidiuflorin>: undefined | 02:37 |
| tgBot | <ovidiuflorin>: Can someone please copy the irc status in Telegram? | 02:38 |
| tgBot | <ovidiuflorin>: Or just în irc, as a message | 02:39 |
| valorie | again, can you say what you mean by status? | 02:40 |
| valorie | topic? | 02:40 |
| vertago1 | Have any of you all upgraded to xenail? | 04:00 |
| valorie | my travel notebook is on xenial | 04:01 |
| vertago1 | does plasmashell crash as soon as you login every time? | 04:02 |
| vertago1 | I am trying to figure out if there is something in my .kde folder messing it up. It looks like baloo is what is crashing though | 04:02 |
| valorie | plasma hasn't crashed for me for about a year | 04:03 |
| vertago1 | do you start with a clean home directory with every install? | 04:03 |
| vertago1 | or upgrade | 04:04 |
| valorie | look in ~/.local and ~/.config | 04:04 |
| valorie | ~/.kde is only used for kde4 applications now | 04:04 |
| valorie | vertago1: on an install, I have a fresh /home | 04:05 |
| valorie | not upgrade | 04:05 |
| valorie | and to xenial was an upgrade | 04:05 |
| valorie | if you think it is a config problem, test with a new user | 04:05 |
| vertago1 | do you disable baloo or let it run? | 04:05 |
| valorie | let it run | 04:06 |
| valorie | haven't messed with it for over a year | 04:06 |
| vertago1 | I usually disable it because I would have to reorganize my files to keep it from indexing large directories of source code | 04:07 |
| valorie | you can just disallow those I believe? | 04:07 |
| vertago1 | right, but that would take a while I don't have just one | 04:07 |
| vertago1 | and I would have to do it on almost every machine | 04:08 |
| vertago1 | plus if I clear my settings ever I have to do it again | 04:08 |
| vertago1 | the easiest thing to do would be to put all that in one folder | 04:08 |
| vertago1 | but then I would have to reorganize everything | 04:08 |
| valorie | testing with a new user is east | 04:09 |
| valorie | easy | 04:09 |
| valorie | and it's just a test | 04:09 |
| vertago1 | yeah I am going to see if the new session works | 04:09 |
| vertago1 | it looks like it doesn't | 04:09 |
| vertago1 | let me try on my other machine | 04:10 |
| vertago1 | that one seems to be fine, so it is probably something wrong with this machine. | 04:11 |
| vertago1 | hmm I cleared the .kde folder and it seems to be fine this time | 04:13 |
| vertago1 | I figured I didn't need the kde4 stuff | 04:14 |
| vertago1 | and could reconfigure the rest | 04:14 |
| vertago1 | I have a backup if I really need it | 04:14 |
| vertago1 | does /etc/init.d still get used or has everything moved over to systemd with 16.04? | 04:16 |
| valorie | I have one, but we've been on systemd for about a year | 04:19 |
| valorie | contents: https://paste.kde.org/py7aq8jd2 | 04:21 |
| vertago1 | arg why do these people have to make billions or trillions of files less than 4k | 04:28 |
| valorie | omg I've been registered longer than you | 04:29 |
| valorie | talk about geek cred! | 04:29 |
| valorie | oops, wrong chan, sorry | 04:29 |
| vertago1 | I think my launchpad account is from 2007 | 04:29 |
| valorie | sorry, vertago1, I was talking to someone else about something else (registration on freenode) | 04:31 |
| vertago1 | oh ok | 04:31 |
| valorie | I've been a member since 2013-05-20, but I don't know when I registered on lp | 04:32 |
| valorie | oops, that was kc membership | 04:32 |
| valorie | kubuntu membership: 2009-04-11 | 04:32 |
| valorie | how do you find where you registered on launchpad? | 04:35 |
| vertago1 | you click your username at the top right | 04:35 |
| vertago1 | 2007-11-24 | 04:35 |
| vertago1 | my karma is probably pretty low for that though | 04:35 |
| valorie | that 2009 must be it then | 04:36 |
| valorie | my karma: 19 | 04:37 |
| valorie | I don't do much on lp besides file bugs | 04:37 |
| soee | good morning | 07:15 |
| tgBot | <Sick_Rimmit>: Good morning folks, I was thinking of gathering in the BigBlueButton Suite tomorrow at 20:00 UTC for a bit of a chat about another Kubuntu Party.. | 08:35 |
| tgBot | <Sick_Rimmit>: Hopefully some of you can come along | 08:35 |
| soee | hiho :) | 10:18 |
| lordievader | o/ | 10:18 |
| * soee prefers green color but sees so much red here :) | 10:20 | |
| tgBot | <ovidiuflorin>: @Sick_Rimmit make a event please | 11:26 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:20 |
| clivejo | hi BluesKaj | 12:35 |
| BluesKaj | hi clivejo | 12:43 |
| tgBot | <ovidiuflorin>: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.5.5: X/WIP, Plasma 5.5.4: X/archive, Apps 15.12.2: X/WIP, FW 5.18: X/archive | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | 13:03 |
| tgBot | <ovidiuflorin>: @ovidiuflorin, pinned the message | 13:03 |
| yofel | A slightly shortened topic might make sense for Telegram. We change the topic all the time in here | 13:12 |
| BluesKaj | yofel: is this a bot or a user/dev posting? | 13:14 |
| yofel | That's ovidiu doing stuff on Telegram | 13:15 |
| yofel | you can pin messages in the latest version, which is the closest thing to a topic that you can get there | 13:15 |
| BluesKaj | yofel: but why is he postiing in #kubuntu and offtopic ? | 13:26 |
| yofel | because all those channels have Telegram channels linked to them now | 13:27 |
| yofel | (note that the messages are different) | 13:27 |
| BluesKaj | we don't irrelevant messages in #kubuntu and offtopioc | 13:29 |
| BluesKaj | need | 13:30 |
| yofel | That's a two way integration. So you can with people from Telegram on IRC and vice-versa | 13:31 |
| yofel | *can talk | 13:31 |
| yofel | I think lxd is making fun of me: | 16:14 |
| yofel | $ lxc launch ubuntu:xenial | 16:14 |
| yofel | Creating semiretired-philip | 16:14 |
| bshah | ehhehe | 16:19 |
| BluesKaj | I'm disappointed there's no quicklaunch widget for the panel in 15.10, any alternatives ? | 17:25 |
| mamarley | BluesKaj: Drag icons directly to the panel. | 17:25 |
| BluesKaj | mamarley, the icons are too large, there's no control over placement in rows etc | 17:27 |
| mamarley | That is the best workaround I have figured out, anyway. | 17:27 |
| BluesKaj | guess I'l just have tom use the favourites as my launcher | 17:29 |
| BluesKaj | mamarley, odd because the quicklaunch and other missing widgets are back in Xenial 16.04 | 17:34 |
| mamarley | Really? I never thought to check. | 17:35 |
| BluesKaj | yup, I have Xenial on another partition | 17:35 |
| mamarley | BluesKaj: The Quicklaunch widget appears to be the plasma-widgets-addons package. Do you have that installed? | 17:41 |
| BluesKaj | mamarley, I have the plasma-widgets-addons package installed, but quicklaunch isn't listed | 17:49 |
| mamarley | Hmm, not sure what changed then. | 17:49 |
| tgBot | integram was added by: ovidiuflorin | 18:05 |
| BluesKaj | mamarley, the quicklaunch becomes available in plasma 5.5.4 | 19:18 |
| mamarley | Ah, OK. I guess a bunch of users complained and they brought it back. | 19:18 |
| soee | you like my links no? https://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-15.12.3.php :D | 19:19 |
| * mamarley slaps soee around a bit with a large trout. | 19:19 | |
| clivejo | poor soee!! | 19:53 |
| soee | :( | 20:06 |
| tgBot | <Sick_Rimmit>: @ovidiuflorin Just thinking that perhaps we should not set an event for tomorrows debrief. As we don't want to invite everyone, and the G+ events have been linked to a Hangout. | 20:09 |
| tgBot | <Sick_Rimmit>: Really I had just planned to gather the core team around planing the next party and get some thoughts and comments, on dates and content | 20:09 |
| sgclark | eeeek, I am not ready! I wanted to create a starter vagrant.box and such, but been busy with my KDE hat. | 20:10 |
| sgclark | always something though. | 20:11 |
| * sgclark looks for a time she is not busy | 20:11 | |
| tgBot | <sgclark2>: Oh. Irc not come here? | 20:12 |
| sick_rimmit | sgclark: It's just a debrief, not another Packaging event yet | 20:12 |
| sgclark | ok cool | 20:12 |
| * sgclark wipes the sweat beads off her forehead | 20:13 | |
| sick_rimmit | I plan to do it again, but tomorrow is just us, so I can formulate a plan, and make a better job of it | 20:13 |
| sick_rimmit | lol | 20:13 |
| sgclark | yees, good plan | 20:13 |
| tgBot | <Sick_Rimmit>: https://kubuntu.org/news/a-big-blue-button/ | 21:40 |
| valorie | sick_rimmit: you rock! | 21:50 |
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