[00:00] because when kwin was built, not all archs had the same version of plasma-workspace [00:00] and the tests are architecture specific [00:02] except that I'm utterly clueless how to tell britney that it should disregard the test results for plasma-workspace 5.4 [00:02] I'll leave that to pitti.. [00:02] so plasma-workspace 5.4.3 triggered kwin 5.5.4 on armhf because dependency version was not set or ? [00:02] the other way around [00:03] kwin 5.5.4 triggered plasma-workspace 5.4.3 ? [00:03] using kwin 5.5.4? build dep? [00:04] yes, that's the 4th build from the top [00:04] eww [00:04] I rather think that will fail [00:04] well, it did :D [00:04] so what can we do to stop the madness? set versions? [00:04] no idea, that's the problem [00:05] ah ok, well we are on the same page of unknown then [00:05] thanks for the explanation [00:05] you *can* re-run a test, that's what the retry button on the excuses page does. But it will still use the same trigger [00:05] which is no help at all [00:06] oh ouch. [00:10] well, in the meantime we can fix the tests that are actually broken - like kopete [00:11] and there's dependency issues with breeze [00:11] at least the release team deleted the NBS packages themselves [00:12] NBS? [00:14] no binary source - packages in the archive that have no source that they're built from anymore. e.g. packages that you removed from a control file (like kdepim-dbg this time etc.) [00:16] ah [00:16] cantor-backend-maxima/s390x unsatisfiable Depends: maxima [00:16] aaargh. Who came up with the idea to support System z [00:18] maxima is not something we have control over is it? is there a way to block an arch per package? [00:19] that's what I'm trying to remember. You *can* just list the allowed architectures. But I would rather just blacklist s390x if that's a thing [00:25] I see now why they were reluctant to approve our Ffe. What a mess. There has got to be a way for us to know prior to release that our autopkgtests will fail? Is that not covered in the CI? Or is it due to their system being complex? [00:25] doesn't look like it, bummer [00:26] us not having the different arch's I guess we can do nothing about [00:26] oh :( [00:26] not covered in CI and system being compley [00:26] *complex [00:26] hm [00:26] right, that's just what you have to live with. Qemu can go some way, and I can debug armhf on my raspi. But that's about it [00:28] OTOH, we already had like ubuntu20 or so uploads to the archive, exactly for such reasons [00:29] * yofel remembers kde-workspace *shudder* [00:29] lets see if I got this right [00:34] oh my, I completely missed the clock [00:34] * yofel -> bed [00:34] nini [00:37] night! [02:37] : undefined [02:38] : Can someone please copy the irc status in Telegram? [02:39] : Or just în irc, as a message [02:40] again, can you say what you mean by status? [02:40] topic? [04:00] Have any of you all upgraded to xenail? [04:01] my travel notebook is on xenial [04:02] does plasmashell crash as soon as you login every time? [04:02] I am trying to figure out if there is something in my .kde folder messing it up. It looks like baloo is what is crashing though [04:03] plasma hasn't crashed for me for about a year [04:03] do you start with a clean home directory with every install? [04:04] or upgrade [04:04] look in ~/.local and ~/.config [04:04] ~/.kde is only used for kde4 applications now [04:05] vertago1: on an install, I have a fresh /home [04:05] not upgrade [04:05] and to xenial was an upgrade [04:05] if you think it is a config problem, test with a new user [04:05] do you disable baloo or let it run? [04:06] let it run [04:06] haven't messed with it for over a year [04:07] I usually disable it because I would have to reorganize my files to keep it from indexing large directories of source code [04:07] you can just disallow those I believe? [04:07] right, but that would take a while I don't have just one [04:08] and I would have to do it on almost every machine [04:08] plus if I clear my settings ever I have to do it again [04:08] the easiest thing to do would be to put all that in one folder [04:08] but then I would have to reorganize everything [04:09] testing with a new user is east [04:09] easy [04:09] and it's just a test [04:09] yeah I am going to see if the new session works [04:09] it looks like it doesn't [04:10] let me try on my other machine [04:11] that one seems to be fine, so it is probably something wrong with this machine. [04:13] hmm I cleared the .kde folder and it seems to be fine this time [04:14] I figured I didn't need the kde4 stuff [04:14] and could reconfigure the rest [04:14] I have a backup if I really need it [04:16] does /etc/init.d still get used or has everything moved over to systemd with 16.04? [04:19] I have one, but we've been on systemd for about a year [04:21] contents: https://paste.kde.org/py7aq8jd2 [04:28] arg why do these people have to make billions or trillions of files less than 4k [04:29] omg I've been registered longer than you [04:29] talk about geek cred! [04:29] oops, wrong chan, sorry [04:29] I think my launchpad account is from 2007 [04:31] sorry, vertago1, I was talking to someone else about something else (registration on freenode) [04:31] oh ok [04:32] I've been a member since 2013-05-20, but I don't know when I registered on lp [04:32] oops, that was kc membership [04:32] kubuntu membership: 2009-04-11 [04:35] how do you find where you registered on launchpad? [04:35] you click your username at the top right [04:35] 2007-11-24 [04:35] my karma is probably pretty low for that though [04:36] that 2009 must be it then [04:37] my karma: 19 [04:37] I don't do much on lp besides file bugs [07:15] good morning [08:35] : Good morning folks, I was thinking of gathering in the BigBlueButton Suite tomorrow at 20:00 UTC for a bit of a chat about another Kubuntu Party.. [08:35] : Hopefully some of you can come along [10:18] hiho :) [10:18] o/ [10:20] * soee prefers green color but sees so much red here :) [11:26] : @Sick_Rimmit make a event please [12:20] Hiyas all [12:35] hi BluesKaj [12:43] hi clivejo [13:03] : Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.5.5: X/WIP, Plasma 5.5.4: X/archive, Apps 15.12.2: X/WIP, FW 5.18: X/archive | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging [13:03] : @ovidiuflorin, pinned the message [13:12] A slightly shortened topic might make sense for Telegram. We change the topic all the time in here [13:14] yofel: is this a bot or a user/dev posting? [13:15] That's ovidiu doing stuff on Telegram [13:15] you can pin messages in the latest version, which is the closest thing to a topic that you can get there [13:26] yofel: but why is he postiing in #kubuntu and offtopic ? [13:27] because all those channels have Telegram channels linked to them now [13:27] (note that the messages are different) [13:29] we don't irrelevant messages in #kubuntu and offtopioc [13:30] need [13:31] That's a two way integration. So you can with people from Telegram on IRC and vice-versa [13:31] *can talk [16:14] I think lxd is making fun of me: [16:14] $ lxc launch ubuntu:xenial [16:14] Creating semiretired-philip [16:19] ehhehe [17:25] I'm disappointed there's no quicklaunch widget for the panel in 15.10, any alternatives ? [17:25] BluesKaj: Drag icons directly to the panel. [17:27] mamarley, the icons are too large, there's no control over placement in rows etc [17:27] That is the best workaround I have figured out, anyway. [17:29] guess I'l just have tom use the favourites as my launcher [17:34] mamarley, odd because the quicklaunch and other missing widgets are back in Xenial 16.04 [17:35] Really? I never thought to check. [17:35] yup, I have Xenial on another partition [17:41] BluesKaj: The Quicklaunch widget appears to be the plasma-widgets-addons package. Do you have that installed? [17:49] mamarley, I have the plasma-widgets-addons package installed, but quicklaunch isn't listed [17:49] Hmm, not sure what changed then. [18:05] integram was added by: ovidiuflorin [19:18] mamarley, the quicklaunch becomes available in plasma 5.5.4 [19:18] Ah, OK. I guess a bunch of users complained and they brought it back. [19:19] you like my links no? https://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-15.12.3.php :D [19:19] * mamarley slaps soee around a bit with a large trout. [19:53] poor soee!! [20:06] :( [20:09] : @ovidiuflorin Just thinking that perhaps we should not set an event for tomorrows debrief. As we don't want to invite everyone, and the G+ events have been linked to a Hangout. [20:09] : Really I had just planned to gather the core team around planing the next party and get some thoughts and comments, on dates and content [20:10] eeeek, I am not ready! I wanted to create a starter vagrant.box and such, but been busy with my KDE hat. [20:11] always something though. [20:11] * sgclark looks for a time she is not busy [20:12] : Oh. Irc not come here? [20:12] sgclark: It's just a debrief, not another Packaging event yet [20:12] ok cool [20:13] * sgclark wipes the sweat beads off her forehead [20:13] I plan to do it again, but tomorrow is just us, so I can formulate a plan, and make a better job of it [20:13] lol [20:13] yees, good plan [21:40] : https://kubuntu.org/news/a-big-blue-button/ [21:50] sick_rimmit: you rock!