[08:14] <pavlushka> Hi everyone!!
[08:19] <Kilos> morning all
[08:19] <Kilos> hows pavlushka today
[08:20] <pavlushka> normal
[08:28] <pavlushka> Kilos, How's your's?
[08:29] <Kilos> good ty and you
[08:29] <Kilos> hehe
[08:30] <pavlushka> Kilos, lol, we will keep asking to each other.
[08:30] <pavlushka> about the day.
[08:31] <Kilos> yes
[08:31] <Kilos> haha
[13:59] <belkinsa> o/ all
[14:00] <Ekushey> Hello belkinsa :)
[14:01] <belkinsa> How are you today?
[14:04] <Ekushey> Good, thanks :)
[14:05] <belkinsa> Can do you do me a favor and accept my subscription request to your LoCo's mailing-list?
[14:07] <Ekushey> Checking...
[14:07]  * belkinsa is with Kilos (Miles) to help your LoCo be active again
[14:08] <belkinsa> Ekushey, thank you.
[14:08] <Ekushey> You're welcome
[14:09] <Ekushey> Our LoCo is very much active, everyone flocked over to our FB group now
[14:09] <Ekushey> https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntubd/
[14:09] <belkinsa> I heard, but I still think some don't use Facebook
[14:09] <belkinsa> Like me.
[14:11] <Ekushey> That's not the case in Bangladesh 
[14:11] <Ekushey> Since there's "zero" Facebook here, people can use it without paying for Internet. We get a lot of support questions from zero FB users.
[14:12] <belkinsa> Has Pavel joined the group on Facebook?
[14:12] <Ekushey> Younger people doesn'tlike using mailing lists these days...
[14:12] <Ekushey> Yup
[14:13] <belkinsa> Good because he wants to get his Ubuntu Membership.
[14:13] <Ekushey> I see
[14:14] <Ekushey> The good part of FB group is help seekers get assistance really fast, even at 4 in the morning as someone or the other is always online
[14:14] <belkinsa> And this is "zero" Facebook apart of the free internet thing in certain countries where you only have a select few websites you can visits?
[14:15] <Ekushey> Yes
[14:16] <belkinsa> That's a shame.  But I won't move to that topic.
[14:16] <Ekushey> Shame?
[14:17] <belkinsa> Yes, because they can't see the whole internet just only a select websites.
[14:17] <Ekushey> Oh
[14:18] <Ekushey> Internet is still expensive here, we pay around thrice as much as what Indians pay
[14:18] <belkinsa> I was thinking of Mozilla Learning when you said "zero" Factbook.  https://teach.mozilla.org/activities
[14:18] <belkinsa> Wow.
[14:20] <Ekushey> Atleast students are able to use Facebook and other sites who can't afford month-long Internet
[14:21] <belkinsa> Yes, that's good.
[14:21] <Kilos-> hi Ekushey belkinsa 
[14:21] <Kilos-> sorry my connection dropped
[14:21] <belkinsa> It's cool.
[14:21] <Ekushey> Cheap smartphones are available here (costing around $30), so they like using Internet :)
[14:21] <Ekushey> Hey Kilos- :)
[14:22] <belkinsa> Do you guys have internet cafes or is the internet to expensive for that too?
[14:24] <Ekushey> There aren't that many Internet cafes around now, even in the capital as everyone can access it from their phones.
[14:24] <belkinsa> I see.
[14:25] <Ekushey> Only thing that I don't like is a lot of people now thinks Internet means Facebook... that's all that they use.
[14:25] <belkinsa> Ekushey, :).  Thanks for saying that.
[14:26] <Ekushey> Well true for Bangladesh, that's my observation... don't know about other countries.
[14:27]  * belkinsa does either
[14:27] <Kilos-> Ekushey as long as ic and wiki etc carry on as well thats good
[14:27] <Kilos-> irc
[14:27] <belkinsa> But I could guess it's a third world country thing.  And I mean no offense.
[14:27] <belkinsa> Kilos-, more like as long as FOSS is around those things will be around.
[14:28] <Ekushey> We do meetups too, the community is great here :)
[14:28] <Kilos-> we just need to all work together thats all
[14:28] <Kilos-> all of the linux world that is
[14:28] <Ekushey> Which LoCo team are you from belkinsa?
[14:29] <belkinsa> Ohio, USA, an inactive one because we are all scattered around the state.  I'm the only one down in the southern end.
[14:29] <Ekushey> Oh OK :)
[14:31] <Kilos-> bhavani was telling me the other day he has similar problems in india
[14:31] <Kilos-> wll get around to helping him too
[14:31] <Ekushey> Bhavani lives abroad now I guess?
[14:31] <Ekushey> Or still in India?
[14:32] <Kilos-> i dont know where he lives but being in the loco council its part of his job to try help struggling locos
[14:32] <Kilos-> its actually a world wide initiative
[14:33] <Ekushey> The only way we're struggling is lack of funding
[14:34] <Kilos-> and can be very time consuming, one ends up being subscribed to dozens of mailing lists
[14:34] <Ekushey> We organize workshops at universities, and there are some expenses
[14:34] <belkinsa> Sounds like someone needs to use https://www.patreon.com
[14:35] <Kilos-> internet costs are the big problem i think
[14:35] <belkinsa> Oi!  Ekushey, is it possible that you can mirror your LoCo's events on the LoCo portal?
[14:35] <belkinsa> And also update your link to the homepage of the LoCo.
[14:36] <Ekushey> Sorry about that, after the LoCo portal was built we didn't make any updates there :P
[14:36] <belkinsa> Oh, okay.
[14:37] <Ekushey> Will do... we've an event coming up next month, 10th anniversary of Ubuntu-BD :)
[14:37] <Ekushey> How does Patreon send the money? Via PayPal?
[14:38] <belkinsa> It's like PayPal but with monthly payments from your supporters.
[14:40] <Ekushey> I mean how do they reimburse the money collected from patrons?
[14:40] <Ekushey> For some reason the site is loading really slow...
[14:41] <belkinsa> You can take out the money each month from your account.
[14:42] <Ekushey> Ah, via PayPal and Payoneer
[14:42] <belkinsa> But after a certain amount, $600 in US, you get taxed.  But I think it comes back to you as a return because it's below a certain limit.
[14:42] <Ekushey> PayPal doesn't work here, not Payoneer is the only option
[14:45] <Ekushey> Very shameful but we're one of the only few countries from where you can't open a PayPal account.
[14:45] <belkinsa> Wow.
[14:46] <Kilos-> ouch
[14:46] <Kilos-> i have one but my stupid bank doesnt connect with them
[14:47] <Ekushey> It's our government's fault really, they didn't give PayPal to do business here as they thought people will do money laundering :P
[14:48] <Ekushey> Even more shameful, Bangladesh was once offered to get connected via underwater fiber network, but govt. said no... the reason they gave was that our countries information will get stolen :P
[14:51] <Kilos-> ouch
[14:51] <Ekushey> Hahaha
[14:51] <belkinsa> A bigger Wow.
[14:52] <Kilos-> at leat here some of the ISPs are supplying free wifi
[14:53] <Kilos-> but thats is mainly in well built up areas and cities
[14:55] <Ekushey> Free WiFi is only available upscale restaurants here ;)
[14:55] <Ekushey> *available at
[14:55] <Kilos> yip money supports money
[14:56] <Kilos> who cares about the little man in todays world
[14:57] <Ekushey> And I know what people use WiFi there for... uploading selfies on FB and Instagram ;)
[14:57] <Kilos> lol
[14:58] <Kilos> Ekushey do you know benin
[14:58] <Kilos> are they in the same situation there
[14:58] <Ekushey> Yeah, Benin in Africa
[14:58] <Kilos> ubuntu-bn
[15:00] <Kilos> oh yes
[15:00] <Kilos> i got mixed up
[15:01] <Ekushey> Only Lonely Planet they wrote "welcome to Benin, the birthplace of voodoo" :P
[15:01] <Ekushey> Hehe
[15:02] <Kilos> haha
[15:02] <Kilos> yeah that is the land of witch doctors
[15:02] <Ekushey> *On
[15:02] <Ekushey> I guess so :P
[18:53] <Kilos> ill be here every day Ekushey 
[18:53] <Kilos> connection permitting of course
[19:19] <Ekushey> Thanks Kilos :)
[19:19] <Kilos> hyou look after you guys
[19:19] <Ekushey> Do you watch cricket?
[19:20] <Kilos> :D
[19:20] <Kilos> yes
[19:20] <Kilos> T20 time
[19:20] <Ekushey> India lost to NZ today :D
[19:20] <Kilos> yeah
[19:20] <Ekushey> Tomorrow is Bangladesh vs Pakistan
[19:20] <Kilos> NZ are good at rugby as well
[19:20] <Kilos> ill watch tomorrow
[19:21] <Ekushey> I'm happy NZ won :D
[19:21] <Kilos> lol
[19:21] <Kilos> they are well disciplined
[19:21] <Kilos> in all sports
[19:23] <Ekushey> One of my friend precited that SA and NZ will go on final, and SA will win
[19:23] <Ekushey> I disagreed with him though, supporting BD :D
[19:24] <Kilos> i hope SA win
[19:24] <Kilos> we have been battling with NZ for years
[19:25] <Kilos> and  out cricket teams isnt what it used to be
[19:27] <Kilos> i need to sleep. sleep tight Ekushey 
[19:28] <Ekushey> Good night Kilos! I'll be off in half an hour
[19:28] <Ekushey> See ya :)
[19:28] <Kilos> ill be here daily
[19:28] <Kilos> take care
[19:28] <Ekushey> :):)
[19:28] <Kilos> :D'