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robert_ancellximion, would you be interested in a gnome-software sprint in early April? Richard was planning one00:56
robert_ancell(in London)00:57
ximionrobert_ancell: sure, I would be very interested!01:36
ximionI am not yet sure though if I have time then, and I would need sponsoring, which complicates things01:37
* ximion needs sleep01:43
ximiongn8!01:43
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hikikoHi05:50
didrocksgood morning!06:44
dufluhikiko, didrocks: Good morning06:58
hikikogood morning duflu didrocks06:58
didrockshey duflu, hikiko06:58
didrockshikiko: did you get your new laptop?06:58
hikikotoday didrocks :)07:00
hikikoI am expecting it07:00
didrocksgreat!07:04
willcookemorning all08:50
willcookeseb128, I've got a "training course" at 1600 today.  If the meeting is not wrapped by then, do you mind finishing it off?08:50
seb128willcooke, hey, I can do that sure08:50
willcookethanks08:50
seb128yw!08:50
Laneyyo09:03
Laneywillcooke: mandatory re-education?09:03
willcookemorning Laney, 'fraid so.09:03
willcookeReviews, etc etc etc09:03
willcookeSeems to get more complex with more and more separate systems to fill in every year09:03
Laneyat Rosie's work they have compulsory performance goals09:04
LaneyEmbodies the values of $company09:04
Laneystuff like that09:05
Laneyand you have to write about how you did that in the past year09:05
willcookeUrgh09:05
willcookeI guess I shouldn't complain (too much) then09:05
Laneywe ain't no giant evil corporation yet09:05
willcookeI had a place where we had to write reviews to a set template09:05
willcookeIt made it easier to fill out09:06
willcookebut it was totally useless09:06
willcookeIt was essentially the Molesworth Self Adjusting Thank-you letter of reviews09:06
Laneyhaha09:07
seb128hey Laney, how are you?09:09
LaneyheeeeeeeeEEEeeeEEeeeEEEeeeEEEeeeeey seb12809:10
seb128:-)09:10
LaneyI am le good09:10
Laneyre-flashed my phone with cyanogenmod last nite09:11
Laneyit got this bug where it just would not ring sometimes if people phone me09:11
Laneybut it does on their side09:11
Laneyand no missed call notification or anything09:11
seb128you put ubuntu touch on there right? ;-)09:11
Laneythat would be less buggy09:11
Laneyeven if it was me doing the port09:12
seb128heh09:13
TrevinhoLaney: once you've a sec, can you please check https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1058 ?09:35
seb128hey Trevinho09:36
Trevinhohi seb12809:36
Trevinhohi everybody :-)09:36
seb128Trevinho, I was going to ask what this landing is blocked on?09:36
seb128is that missing ffe approvals?09:36
Laneyhey Trevinho09:36
Trevinhohi Laney09:36
Laneyhave you ever noticed that the help overlay thing 'sees through' the dash? :)09:37
Laneyopen dash, hold super09:37
Laneyomg it's a hole!09:37
seb128indeed!09:37
Laneythink this upload is fine09:38
Laneylet me look09:38
TrevinhoLaney: mh, yeah... That's because blurring is done against X world, not against X+Nux world09:38
TrevinhoLaney: we had the dash closing when opening the shortcuts in the past IIRC09:39
TrevinhoI'd also like to get some feedback on the gtk patches, so we can land the other headerbar related fixes09:39
LaneyDONE09:56
Laneygtk> you were working on that with d_e_s_r_t right?09:56
willcookeTrevinho, seb128, andyrock, hikiko - sorry, need 3 more mins.  Be right there.....10:00
Trevinhowillcooke: ok10:00
hikikook :)10:01
willcookethere10:04
seb128willcooke, on my way10:06
seb128Laney, you souldn't avoid mentioning people names when there are actions needed from them ;-)10:33
seb128Trevinho, was desrt reviewing the gtk changes?10:33
Laneyavoiding a false alarm10:35
seb128Laney, we need somebody to review those changes though ... ;-)10:36
seb128anyway, let's see what desrt said when she's up10:36
seb128Trevinho, btw there is an issue with unity translations in xenial, the template is not correctly updated during the build10:40
Trevinhoseb128: mh, what's missing?10:41
seb128from the build log it tries to generate a {PROJECT_NAME} domain10:41
TrevinhoAh... fuck10:41
seb128I don't have a build tree here10:41
seb128but is the config.h.cmake transformed in config.h?10:42
Trevinhoseb128: yes10:42
seb128what GETTEXT_DOMAIN value that contain?10:42
seb128if you have a build tree around to look10:42
seb128+does10:42
Trevinhoseb128: it has unity here10:42
Trevinhoso fine10:43
seb128:-/10:43
seb128GETTEXT_PACKAGE I mean10:43
seb128it needs some debugging then I guess10:43
seb128I'm going to have a look after lunch10:44
Trevinhoseb128: ok, thanks...10:44
seb128is that config.h in the srcdir?10:44
Trevinhoseb128: there's config.h.cmake in srcdir, config.h is generated in build dir10:44
seb128if not, is there a CMakeLists.txt or po/CMakeLists.txt which contain a GETTEXT_DOMAIN10:44
seb128dh_translations might only look in the srcdir10:45
seb128Trevinho, thanks, I'm going to look more after lunch10:45
Laneydoh12:09
Laneybuilding webkit killed my desktop12:09
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xnoxLaney, we have all been there.12:39
LaneyI do wonder why it died12:41
Laneyhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/15391313/12:42
Laneythat's what it managed to put in the journal12:42
xnoxLaney, you probably did e.g. -j4 with not enough RAM to link simultaniously 4 C++ units.12:45
xnoxtry -j112:45
Laney32 gigs!12:45
Laneybut yeah it OOM killed firefox and dropbox12:45
desrthihi hackers12:45
Laneydon't know why the whole system then went down, no logs about that12:45
Laneyhowdy desrt12:46
desrthey Laney12:47
Laneyjust accidentally opened a pdf in gedit12:47
* Laney stabs the local council12:47
willcookehappyaron, reminder - pls send your updates12:47
Laneyhowever it reminds me of that course at uni where we wrote postscript12:47
Laneyman that was fun12:47
desrtdid you put up a new version of the patch, Trevinho ?12:49
Trevinhodesrt: yes12:49
Trevinholast week12:49
desrtlink me?12:49
Trevinhodesrt: oh, it's the same https://code.launchpad.net/+branch/~3v1n0/gtk/unity-border-radius-support/+merge/28833112:49
desrtwill look, thanks12:51
seb128hey desrt!12:51
Trevinhodesrt: thank you12:51
desrtmorning, seb12:55
happyaronwillcooke: sure, :D12:59
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desrtTrevinho: sorry, but you probably need to resubmit again :(13:20
Laneywhat :(13:43
Laneyone of my monitors just suspended and now I can't get it to come back on13:44
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seb128I've some issues here as well14:04
seb128like when connecting my laptop to my external monitor I'm pretty sure it used to wake it up/adapt the config14:05
seb128now I need to press a key/move the mouse for it to kick in14:05
Laneyxrandr thinks it's not connected14:05
Laneyu-c-c can see the name of it at least though14:05
seb128weird14:05
seb128I though u-c-c used xrandr to query those info14:06
Laneyyes14:06
Laneyso I can't enable it in u-c-c14:06
Trevinhodesrt: ok, np... let me check the reveiw14:06
Trevinhoreview*14:06
seb128ah, it has the name even when it's not connected14:06
seb128gotcha14:06
Laneyit knows there's something plugged in14:07
Laneybut can't do anything with it14:07
Laneywhyyyy14:07
seb128xxxoorg14:07
seb128or nvidia drivers?14:07
seb128:p14:07
Laneybah14:09
Laneytrying nouveau again14:09
seb128:-(14:10
jcastrodoes anyone know when gnome-terminal started shipping the solarized themes? they weren't there in 14.04 and they're here in 16.04.14:10
mhall119Laney: can you respond to https://plus.google.com/u/0/+MichaelHall119/posts/3yPoJ99j4en ? It looks like the transmission-qt.png icon exists, but the generator isn't finding it14:10
ricotzhello desktopers, what is this bug about? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plank/+bug/155701114:11
ubot5Launchpad bug 1557011 in plank (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/plank:6:match:match:match:match:pcre_exec" [Undecided,New]14:11
seb128ricotz, hey, not that I know about14:11
desrtIRC [Internet Relay Chat] (n): 1. an online forum for complaining about the fact that telegram appears to be offline14:12
seb128ricotz, sorry, what do you mean?14:12
seb128ricotz, it's a sigabrt report14:12
seb128#9  0x76b02a34 in match (eptr=0xe7fc87 " object at path /org/ayatana/bamf/application/1879036094", ecode=0xd5095e "x", mstart=0xe7fc50 "od: No such interface 'org.ayatana.bamf.application' on object at path /org/ayatana/bamf/application/1879036094", offset_top=2, md=0x7ef93a24, eptrb=0x0, rdepth=3) at pcre_exec.c:51614:12
seb128ricotz, ^ no bamf available and it aborts14:13
Laneygod14:13
Laneynouveau doesn't even work at all14:13
seb128:-(14:13
seb128mhall119, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=transmission-qt.png&mode=exactfilename&suite=xenial&arch=any14:14
ricotzseb128, I see, I am not able to look at the included link14:14
seb128mhall119, that icon seems invalid?14:15
Laneymhall119: I don't see that icon14:15
seb128ricotz, you need to be in some team, bugsquad or such, I don't remember which one14:15
* Laney cries14:15
ricotzseb128, ah ok, looks like a bamf problem though << Trevinho ;)14:16
ricotzseb128, do I want to be in this group? ;)14:16
ricotzseb128, I mean does this result in 100+ mails per day14:17
seb128ricotz, it generates no email afaik but it gives you permissions on bugs triage and access to e.u.c14:17
ricotzseb128, ok, thanks14:17
Laneyforget this14:18
LaneyI'm going to ragelunch14:18
andyrockseb128 do you know what's the component that switch off the display when the lid is closed?14:23
seb128andyrock, no, it's either xorg itself or unity-settings-daemon I guess14:24
seb128Laney, enjoy14:24
GunnarHjseb128: Just want to confirm what the *name* is of the thingy which is included in the gnome-software package, and which is supposed to be used in e.g. the desktop docs. Is it just "Software"? Like this:14:26
GunnarHj-> Use "Software" to add programs and make Ubuntu more useful.14:26
GunnarHjI.e. combinations like "Software Center" or "Ubuntu Software Center" should no longer be used? (There is still an instance of "Software center" in a lens in Unity Dash.)14:26
seb128GunnarHj, right, it's "Software"14:27
GunnarHjseb128: Thanks.14:27
mhall119Laney: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/transmission/trunk/files/head:/qt/icons/hicolor/64x64/ has transmission-qt.png14:32
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seb128mhall119, it doesn't get installed in the deb then14:39
mhall119so a packaging problem?14:39
seb128seems so14:40
Trevinhodesrt: see my replies when you can... But I don't think we can fetch such infos from toplevel14:45
desrtthat seems really weird14:45
seb128mhall119, Laney, that bug is not new and not specific to the store, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/121283514:45
ubot5Launchpad bug 1212835 in transmission (Ubuntu) "Missing icon from dock and dash" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:45
mhall119ah,thanks seb12814:47
desrtTrevinho: in particular there is a class called "decoration" which has the appropriate border-radius properties14:47
seb128yw14:47
Trevinhodesrt: I get nothing grepping for that one :o14:48
desrtTrevinho: the gtkwindow has this available as priv->decoration_node14:48
Trevinhodesrt: I think it's something upstream, not on gtk 3.1814:49
desrtah.  could be.14:49
desrtwell, if your approach works then it works14:49
desrtbut it seems like the dialogs get a different treatment14:49
desrt(again, upstream version)14:50
attenteis canonical irc down?14:50
desrtIRC [Internet Relay Chat] (n): 1. an online forum for complaining about the fact that other IRC networks appear to be offline14:50
desrt(yes.  it's down for me too) ;)14:50
seb128mhall119, the transmission issue has been fixed upstream in the most recent version btw, we if somebody wants to update or backport https://trac.transmissionbt.com/changeset/1437414:53
Trevinhodesrt: dialogs... Mh I did't see that here14:54
desrttake a look at adwaita14:54
desrtlook for all instances of radius.*714:54
desrtthere are a bunch scattered about14:55
desrtdecoration class, titlebar widget, message dialogs, etc.14:55
desrttooltips get 5, btw.14:55
Trevinhoyeah, tooltips are handled here. Dialogs might be different in our gtk though14:55
desrtwould be nice to have a patch with an eye to the future (read: present)14:56
* desrt watches Trevinho complain about "i don't want to include X11 headers" in a comment immediately adjacent to a patch fragment that calls XChangeProperty14:58
desrt...we've already crossed that bridge :p14:58
Trevinho:)14:58
Trevinhodesrt: I know what you mean, I meant I didn't want to add a new fragment on top... Add more includes14:58
Trevinhobut whathever14:58
desrtnod.14:59
desrtyou could just write '6'14:59
desrtsince it will always be 6.  forever.14:59
desrt:)14:59
TrevinhoYeah, I know... but I don't love magic numbers.14:59
TrevinhoOr adding a new const14:59
Trevinhothat's going to be called once, it shouldn't be really nothing problematic15:00
* desrt shrugs15:00
desrtseems like a lot of effort to call a function that always returns 6 :)15:01
desrtand once per new window plus style change15:01
desrtbut ya... i'm knitpicking15:01
desrtanyway... .commented back.  poke me when you have a new patch15:04
seb128willcooke, hey, as our theme maintainer, do you want to look at the new icons added to bug #1549490? ;-)15:27
ubot5bug 1549490 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "low resolution checkbox icons" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154949015:27
willcookeseb128, added to the list15:28
willcookehope that next week I can make time to get them all done15:28
seb128great15:28
seb128I'm going to be on vac but I guess Laney can help you doing a landing15:28
seb128I've some mps waiting for review on the themes as well15:29
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-1515:31
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willcookeRoll call:  andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)15:31
desrtanswer roll call!15:32
Trevinhoo/15:32
dgadomski\o15:32
hikikohello15:32
qenghoSYNACK15:32
FJKong\o/15:32
happyaronhey15:32
andyrock\o15:32
seb128hey15:33
willcookeI have another meeting in 30 mins, so if we don't get done in time I'll hand over to seb12815:33
willcookebut let's get started15:33
willcooke#topic andyrock15:33
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andyrock* reviews15:34
andyrock* i've been working on the lockscreen suspend bug. I rewrote our inhibition logic but I've some bad news15:34
* desrt raises an eyebrow at "rewrote inhibit logic"15:35
andyrockinside unity :D15:35
* desrt 's eyebrow falls back down15:35
seb128lol15:35
andyrockbasically the problem is that unity/compiz fails to properly "lock" the screen because the screen is turned off15:36
andyrockso all the frames are kind of trashed15:36
andyrockand drawn only when the screen is turned on again on resume15:36
Laneydon't you install a suspend inhibitor?15:36
andyrockyeah15:36
seb128can't the indicator do the locking before calling the switching or suspend?15:36
andyrockwe do that15:36
andyrockbut compiz fails to draw it15:36
andyrockbecause the screen is off15:37
andyrockso the screen is locked but not drawn15:37
seb128why is the screen off?15:37
andyrockand this happens just on lid off because of this15:37
seb128oh ok15:37
andyrockif you suspend with a menu it's ok15:38
andyrockI'm trying to figure our a way to workaround this15:38
seb128k15:38
andyrock*out15:38
andyrockg-s do not fail to do so because it does not use gtk?15:39
andyrock*opengl15:39
andyrocksorry15:39
andyrocki'll keep working on it, at least I know what to fix now15:39
andyrock<\andy>15:40
willcookethanks andyrock15:40
willcookeDo you need anyone to help you?15:40
seb128why is opengl making a difference there?15:40
seb128willcooke, maybe it would be good to get input from somebody knowing the rendering stack enough to have a clue what's going on15:41
seb128kgunn's team?15:41
seb128or maybe desrt knows offhand what could be wrong?15:41
desrti would have thought it was easy but the whole "can't draw when the screen is already off" thing is a bit annoying15:41
willcookecan we add a "simple" force option to compiz?15:42
desrtwell, i guess it's rather because something at the system level (or maybe even firmware) is killing the screen content in response to lid-close before we have a chance to intercept it15:42
seb128how are other screensavers handling that?15:42
desrt"poorly"15:43
seb128:-/15:43
desrti still see gnome-shell having similar problems too15:43
seb128k15:44
hikikomaybe xfce?15:44
seb128"fun"15:44
willcookeoki, andyrock & desrt - can you guys have a chat15:44
seb128it means it might not be fixable with xorg...15:44
willcookelets see if we can find a work around15:44
desrti am indeed inclined to blame the graphics stack based on what andyrock just said15:44
desrtbut i never looked into this myself15:45
andyrocki can propose an ungly workaround15:45
seb128let's discuss after the meeting15:45
willcooketh15:45
andyrockbasically we give the control back to lightdm/unity-greeter15:45
willcookex15:45
TrevinhoI'm also wondering whether this can happen in all the graphic stacks...15:45
andyrockbut the session is not going to be active on resume15:45
willcookelet's discuss later15:46
willcookethanks chaps15:46
andyrockyup15:46
willcooke#topic attente15:46
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attentehey, not much, just gnome-software bugs15:46
attente(eof)15:46
willcookethanks attente15:46
willcookegood work there15:46
willcooke#topic desrt15:46
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desrt° bugs15:46
desrt° reviews15:46
desrt° some gnome-software fun15:46
desrt° releases (coming today)15:46
desrt° lots of cat power15:46
desrt° finally got my ADP stuff set up15:46
desrt15:46
willcookethanks desrt15:47
willcooke#topic dgadomski15:47
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dgadomskihey15:47
dgadomski* bug 1554004 - tested fix and prepared debdiffs for SRU15:47
ubot5bug 1554004 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (Ubuntu Wily) "Segfault on X startup with VX900" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155400415:47
dgadomskiand that's the only thing this week in the desktop area15:47
willcookesweet, thanks dgadomski15:47
dgadomskithanks15:47
willcooke#topic FJKong15:48
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FJKonghey15:48
FJKong bug 154591015:48
ubot5bug 1545910 in Ubuntu SDK IDE "Cannot input Chinese characters into TextField in a QML application" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154591015:48
FJKongCannot input Chinese characters into TextField in a QML application Edit15:48
FJKongbug confirmed, it is caused by system environment variables problem, still need more time15:48
FJKongSogou IM15:48
FJKongwrong position of candidate words when typing in texmacs15:48
FJKongeof15:48
willcookethanks FJKong15:48
willcooke#topic happyaron15:48
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happyaronhi15:48
happyaron  1. Write deploy script for the sogoupinyin VM, tired of fixing time to time15:49
happyaron  2. Fonts work continued15:49
happyaron  3. Bug fixes for Ubuntu Kylin15:49
happyaron  4. Planning of LTS translation, will follow up when NUDT has new update, might need to go to Changsha15:49
happyaronover15:49
willcookethanks happyaron15:49
willcooke#topic hikiko15:49
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hikikohi15:49
hikikolast week:15:49
hikiko* wrote shadows for windows that have alpha and don't provide any shape information (it works with most windows but it can't be merged before I fix the corner cases)15:49
hikiko* fixed the black dots (but it seems that we can't merge it either: there was another mp for that bug that was rejected before mine because the change affects other plugins, so I plan to push a relevant change after the ezoom and then merge it (since we can temporary hide the problem with marco's trick).15:49
hikikothis week:15:49
hikiko* I stopped the shadows/gtk related work and went back to the ezoom development: I am trying to fix a blocking bug I have nux-side + multimonitor issues to move on.15:49
hikikoeof15:50
willcookethanks hikiko15:50
willcooke#topic Laney15:50
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Laneyhi15:50
Laney• Spent probably 50% of the week working on creating a 'frontend' load balanced http server thing for appstream. I'm waiting on some RTs to test this now.15:50
Laney• Fixed missing files in gst-bad, reworked the packaging to reduce the risk of that happening again15:50
Laney• Reverted font to previous version, new one was buggy15:50
Laney• Rebuilds and tracking (autopkgtests etc) for poppler migration15:50
Laney• Merge of webkit2gtk15:50
Laney• Couple of icon fixes for appstream15:50
Laney• Merge of gtk+3.0 gnome-terminal15:50
Laney• Was trying to test that last one when my desktop shat itself and now one of the monitors won't work15:50
Laney• FFe reviews15:51
Laney🙚15:51
willcooke:) thanks Laney15:51
willcooke#topic qengho15:51
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qengho- IN-POGRESSS: trying to get chromium 49 security update out the door. gtk3 theme support not working. pdf trouble.15:51
qengho- IN-PROGRESS: self-review.15:52
qengho- TODO: finish snap package15:52
qenghoEOF15:52
willcookethanks qengho15:52
willcooke#topic seb12815:52
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seb128• one vac day15:52
seb128• investigated some gnome-calendar segfaults/helped to get some fixes upstream and backported those15:52
seb128• looked a bit at snappy-by-default (ffe waiting) and upgrades questions15:52
seb128• got pulled in some meetings about the previous item15:52
seb128• sponsored an xchat-gnome segfault fix + SRU15:52
seb128• debuggged some gnome-software issues (mostly with the updates list), suggested some formatting change (waiting for review) and reported server problems which got resolved since thanks to bdmurray15:52
seb128• bugs triaging/debugging/upstreaming15:52
seb128</week>15:53
willcookethanks seb12815:53
willcooke#topic Sweet5hark115:53
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willcookewe'll come back...15:54
willcooke#topic TheMuso15:54
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willcooke* Filed MIR for valadoc as is a build dep of a11y-profile-manager that I missed... Some issues need resolving there, so will look into. I'm considering dropping the dep and shipping docs with my tarballs as a work-around.15:54
willcooke* Started digging into why some indicator menu items, particularly those with icons, are not being spoken by Orca. Seems its something within the GTK GMenuModel code, need to see if I can reproduce with newer gtk first.15:54
willcooke#topic tkamppeter15:54
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willcooke- More testing for distribution-independent printer driver packaging.15:54
willcooke- Communication with potential students for this year's Google Summer of Code.15:54
willcooke- Bugs.15:54
willcooke#topic Trevinho15:54
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seb128zzZZzz15:55
willcookeplease paste your updates later...15:55
willcooke#topic robert_ancell15:55
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willcooke- GNOME Software work15:55
willcooke- LightDM 1.17.6 release15:55
willcooke- Simple Scan 3.19.92 release15:55
willcooke- Fixing use of $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP15:55
willcooke#topic any other business15:56
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willcookeI've got to run15:56
seb128I would like to discuss nautilus15:56
willcookebut reviews should be out to you later this week15:56
seb128but can do after the meeting15:56
willcookeoki, let me end it now and then I will come back and read later on15:56
willcooke#endmeeting15:56
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Mar 15 15:56:32 2016 UTC.15:56
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-03-15-15.31.moin.txt15:56
willcookethanks all15:56
willcookebbl15:56
seb128maybe desrt Laney attente can help there15:56
Trevinhowillcooke: sorry15:56
seb128thanks15:56
Trevinho· Final review for launcher bottom, with few fixes15:56
Trevinho· Various compiz reviews15:56
Trevinho· Proper headerbar theming for maximized windows in unity (toolbar mode)15:56
Trevinho· New unity and compiz landing15:56
seb128good work Trevinho ;-)15:56
attentenautilus?15:57
seb128I don't know what to do there15:57
seb128summary is that we have 3.1415:57
Sweet5hark1Trevinho: EOF? /me would dump his items too still.15:57
seb128which is using the gtkplacesidebar widget15:57
TrevinhoOEF :)15:57
TrevinhoEOF15:57
Sweet5hark1- LibreOffice snap (adding l10n, etc.)15:58
Sweet5hark1- upstream code review15:58
Sweet5hark1- patch backporting15:58
Sweet5hark1- some upstream refactoring15:58
Sweet5hark1- board call, ESC call15:58
Sweet5hark1EOF15:58
seb128or that widget got changed in incompatible ways in gtk 3.16 -> 3.1815:58
seb128shrug15:58
seb128noisy channel :p15:58
Laneyhard to be around during a meeting...15:58
Laneywhat is the problem with the widget?15:58
* seb128 shakes fist to Sweet5hark1 and Trevinho to not be around and they screw the topic I'm trying to bring15:58
seb128it was a menu15:59
seb128it's a popover now15:59
seb128which is ok15:59
seb128but they changed the update function that is used to add items to the sidebar15:59
seb128which nautilus is using15:59
seb128that takes some new widget now15:59
* Sweet5hark1 prepares a nice tea for seb128 and a buys him a freshly baked cookie ....15:59
Trevinhoseb128: sorry... I was around, but I was about to restart compiz... which crashed :-/15:59
seb128which is gaction based15:59
seb128or nautilus 3.14 is not gaction based16:00
seb128so I don't see an easy way to build the items to feed to the new version of the widget16:00
seb128you can manually pack things in there, but then you are on your own16:00
seb128and I didn't manage to make the list look consistent then16:01
attenteseb128: this is supposed to be for adding bookmarks like through the menu?16:02
seb128no16:02
seb128it's used to add the "browse network" item in the list16:02
seb128and context actions16:02
seb128like eject on the trash16:02
seb128or format on drives16:02
seb128https://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=8bbb1b4270fd31bff11c3a00de481e86d0090f4a is the nautilus fix16:05
seb128but that doesn't apply to our codebase since its not ported to gaction16:05
seb128I tried to copy GtkPlacesSidebar from gtk 3.16 in nautilus and build a copy of the widget reanmed to NautilusPlacesSiderbar16:06
seb128but that uses gtktrask and gtkbookmarks and other private gtk files16:06
seb128and it started feeling like a bit too much code copy16:07
seb128unsure if somebody has a clever idea? the solutions I see are16:07
seb128- manually manage to pack things in the popover that look similar to the convenient api16:07
seb128which I didn't manage to do16:07
seb128- do a copy of the old widget, but it's quite some code to copy and I hit errors16:08
seb128- do without those items, but they are quite important16:08
seb128- update nautilus, but then we get the new version mostly untested, which known issues and without menubar16:09
seb128- ?16:09
attentewhat were the issues with the first approach?16:10
seb128well16:10
seb128upstream pack those https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkModelButton.html16:10
seb128which is gaction based16:10
seb128if you try to pack a normal button the popover looks weird16:10
seb128like the button is not having the same padding/marging/color/style than the other items16:10
attenteok, so what about porting those buttons over to gactions?16:12
seb128so just a partial porting?16:13
seb128I guess that would work16:13
seb128I was just thinking about that16:13
attenteyeah, doesn't have to be everything, just the features we wanted to keep16:13
seb128would there be a side effect of throwing some gactions in there?16:13
attentei assume the gactions would just do the same thing that a button click would do16:14
attentebut maybe i don't fully understand the problem16:14
seb128I'm going to have a try, I though a first disgarded it because I was considering porting to gaction too much work16:15
seb128but it's true we don't need to that16:15
seb128we can just add a few ones for the callback16:15
seb128thanks attente!16:15
attenteok, good luck seb128 :)16:16
seb128thanks :-)16:16
seb128Trevinho, you broke the unity translations in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/revision/407216:17
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, it was somewhat what I was expecting16:17
seb128Trevinho, dh_translation is not smart enough to follow variables16:17
Trevinhoseb128: sooo?16:17
seb128can we put it back to have GETTEXT_DOMAIN to be "unity"?16:18
Trevinhoseb128: ok16:18
seb128maybe with a comment to not change it :p16:18
Trevinhoseb128: in cmakefile, right?16:18
Trevinhoseb128: can you propose a branch for that, or should I?16:18
seb128Trevinho, I can do it16:19
seb128Trevinho, but if you want to do it feel free I can also approve16:19
seb128as you prefer16:19
seb128it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1557081 btw16:19
ubot5Launchpad bug 1557081 in unity (Ubuntu) "Empty trash no translation on unity 7.4.0" [High,New]16:19
Trevinhoseb128: I'm fine with approving yours :)16:28
seb128Trevinho, k, going to do that in a bit16:28
Trevinhodesrt: also gtk_css_style_change_affects is only in upstream gtk..16:28
Laneyintriguing17:06
Laneyhdmi works, mini dp doesn't17:07
seb128is that an hardware issue?17:09
Laneydunno, i don't have anything else to test it with17:09
seb128the software stack changed?17:10
seb128if it was working with 15.10 try from a livecd?17:10
Laneyi'm making a 14.04.0 one now17:10
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Laneymight be some monitor weirdness17:38
seb128did you try turning it off and on?17:39
seb128:p17:39
Laneymany times17:39
seb128:-/17:40
seb128did you find something though17:40
seb128that you said weirdness17:40
Laneynot really17:40
seb128rather than failure17:40
Laneyit works on hdmi but not dp17:41
seb128could still be some hardware failure17:41
Laneybut on dp it also broke the other monitor (dvi) from showing17:41
Laneyunder nouveau17:42
Trevinhodesrt: I've updated https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/gtk/unity-border-radius-support/+merge/28833117:42
Laneyon nvidia it just couldnt be activated17:42
Laneybleh17:42
Trevinhodesrt: also this one might be for you https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/gtk/unity-maximized-headerbar-buttons-hide/+merge/28855217:47
andyrocki call this a day17:57
andyrock'night17:57
willcookesee ya andyrock17:57
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seb128night andyrock18:01
Laneyme too, got to fit in climbing before pub quiz18:01
Laneybue!18:01
seb128Laney, do you consider porting wxwidget from gst0.10 to 1.0 as a feature?18:01
seb128Laney, 132977918:01
seb128bug #132977918:01
ubot5bug 1329779 in wxwidgets3.0 (Ubuntu) "Sync from Debian Unstable | Migrate to gstreamer 1.0" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132977918:01
seb128bah18:01
LaneyI dunno18:01
Laneybut do it18:01
seb128k :p18:02
Laneysomeone should test those bits18:02
Laneybyes18:02
seb128enjoy climbing and quiz!18:02
willcookenight Laney18:02
seb128Sweet5hark1, you are handling https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/1548647 right?18:37
ubot5Launchpad bug 1548647 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice uses breeze style" [High,Confirmed]18:37
seb128Sweet5hark1, or asked differently no need to keep sponsors subscribed?18:37
Sweet5hark1seb128: yes18:43
seb128Sweet5hark1, thanks!18:44
Sweet5hark1seb128: is already commited locally even18:44
seb128even better18:44
willcookechrisccoulson, any chance of getting this in for 16.04?  https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/firefox/bookmarks-update/+merge/28663319:25
MerkabahOk so are there any reason at all for the constant update packages for Ubuntu? I try to use this for hosting servers and I keeps updating crap! This is supposed to be something better then Microsoft!19:47
MerkabahOh, maybe the wrong channel sorry!19:48
mdeslaurMerkabah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates19:56
mitya57seb128, hi, are you taking care of unity-control-center landing (with GunnarHj's and robert_ancell's changes), or can I do that?20:15
seb128mitya57, please do it20:15
seb128thanks ;-)20:15
seb128speaking of20:16
seb128hey robert_ancell :-)20:16
robert_ancellseb128, yo20:16
mitya57robert_ancell, thanks for the MPs btw :)20:17
robert_ancellmitya57, np20:17
willcookehey robert_ancell20:18
robert_ancellwillcooke, hi20:18
willcookethe gangs all here20:18
robert_ancellseb128, with the window scaling and the greeter MP - does the greeter not set XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity?20:18
robert_ancellgrepping suggests it does not..20:21
robert_ancellIt probably should set XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity:UnityGreeter20:21
seb128robert_ancell,20:28
seb128$ sudo strings /proc/`pidof unity-greeter`/environ | grep XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP20:28
seb128$20:28
robert_ancellmitya57, seb128, regarding https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/unity-control-center/not-overwrite-XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP/+merge/288709 - is there a reason why we don't just drop that entire line?20:44
mitya57If the greeter session doesn't have XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP then the panels which have OnlyShowIn=Unity in their desktop file won't be shown20:45
robert_ancellmitya57, this is u-c-c though, which doesn't run in the greeter20:51
mitya57Sorry, s/greeter/Ubiquity session/20:52
mitya57That line was introduced for installer session and I don't think anything changed since then.20:53
seb128robert_ancell, it's "ubiquity only" which is a custom session started in some old way I think, I don't think they use lightdm21:00
mitya57setenv is just one line and completely harmless for sessions where it's already set, so it's OK to keep it in my opinion21:02
seb128robert_ancell, mvo, do you have any opinion about potentially replacing the apt-pkgkitcompat by packagekit in xenial?21:04
robert_ancellmitya57, just asking because it's a bit confusing to read. Might be worth putting a comment beside it21:05
robert_ancellseb128, I'm for it if it works21:05
seb128k, need to try it21:05
seb128the motivation is because click has a packagekit backend but that doesn't work with the compat layer21:05
seb128so unity8 session don't have click working21:06
seb128until user swap the bits21:06
seb128would make easier to have co-working sessions21:06
robert_ancellseb128, this is PK 1.0 right?21:06
seb128no21:06
mitya57robert_ancell, too late for adding a comment, I don't want to trigger new builds and these ones are mostly finished :)21:06
seb1280.21:06
seb1280.821:06
seb1281.0 drops the backend support21:06
seb128which click needs21:06
robert_ancellseb128, does 0.8 work OK for installing / removing stuff?21:07
seb128I don't know, that was part of the question :p21:07
seb128you played with packagekit in g-s before going the apt backend way21:07
seb128but you had 1.0 in the ppa I guess?21:07
mvoseb128: no opinion, do whatever you guys think is best21:10
seb128mvo, thanks21:10
robert_ancellseb128, yeah, 1.0 in the PPA21:13
seb128did you try/play with 0.8?21:13
seb128I think that's not really a good option, it's old/unmaintained21:14
robert_ancellseb128, not really, but I had heard it wasn't really good enough21:14
seb128we might better stay on our compat layer21:14
robert_ancellseb128, yeah, that's my point, if we drop the compat layer I think we have to go 1.021:14
seb128that makes sense, thanks21:14
robert_ancellWhich is very desirable, but sounds too risky if no-one is working on ti21:14
seb128well, it brings us back to our main issue21:14
robert_ancelland the click issue21:14
seb128to work click needs packagekit integration21:15
seb128right21:15
seb128robert_ancell, thanks21:16
seb128robert_ancell, other question .... gnome-software, do you plan to land your get_changelog fixes this week?21:17
robert_ancellseb128, yes21:17
seb128robert_ancell, also do you know if missing screenshots is a known issue/something people are looking at21:18
seb128some are displayed21:18
seb128but e.g cheese has some in other distro and software-center but none in gnome-software21:18
seb128if you use appstreamcli it lists a valid one21:19
robert_ancellseb128, oh weird. Yes, cheese has valid screenshots, but confirming they're not showing in g-s21:20
robert_ancellI will investigate21:20
seb128thanks21:20
robert_ancellseb128, can you open a bug?21:20
seb128sure21:20
seb128same issue for eog file-roller etc21:22
seb128robert_ancell, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/155775221:24
ubot5Launchpad bug 1557752 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "screenshot missing for softwares that should have one (cheese, eog, etc)" [Undecided,New]21:24
seb128on that note calling it a day21:24
robert_ancellseb128, ta21:25
seb128have a good night there!21:25
robert_ancellseb128, bye21:25
jdstranddesrt: hi! I'm trying to run something under confinement and see: GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications.21:28
jdstranddesrt: is there an env var or something I should be using?21:29
desrtthis happens because dconf is not installed inside of the container21:29
jdstranddconf-gsettings-backend ?21:30
desrtsounds right21:30
jdstrandok, thanks21:30
jdstrand(btw, this isn't a container, it is a snap, but same thing applies)21:31
willcookenight all22:00

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